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How is everyone liking the new virtual measurement? You don’t get to see them spot the ball, you don’t see how they determine where the line to gain is, just a graphic of what the computer thinks happened. Not that the chains were always accurate, but at least it felt somewhat legit allowing for human error. But then it’s all entertainment anyway…
It’s a brand new season in the Skoloholics Pick ‘Em League, and I don’t think it is any exaggeration to say it is the most exciting thing that has ever happened in my life. It is up there with that time I found a really cool stick while walking.
PA Viking Fan came in at the top. Then again, PA Viking Fan always comes in at the top. We need to gang up on him and take him down a notch. Maybe we can come up with a handicap rule for PA. For example, he must always put 16 confidence points on the Packers to win or something like that.
I came in second. This makes sense. I put in a lot of offseason training and employ a new picking technique: I wear my bifocals, so I can actually read the names of the teams…
Mjolnir comes in third. I think this is Mjolnir’s first time in the league? Or at least the first time using his official handle? If I’m wrong, you’ll have to forgive me. I wear bifocals. What do you expect?
JacksonVike came in at a solid fourth place. I’m pulling for JacksonVike. He is my dark horse this season. I actually asked my wife about putting a second mortgage on the house to bet on JacksonVike winning the league. She said, “Sounds like a sure thing! Do it!” She is very supportive that way.
Surly took the fifth spot. Fifth sound mediocre, but it is really not that bad. It is only five points out of second place. It is a good spot to be, just laying in the weeds to strike in week 2!
Peterplaysbass is in sixth. I think this is Peter’s first season, as well? I expect big things from him. Just the other day, I gave a motivation speech to a bunch of gradeschoolers and told them, “If you work hard, someday you can be in sixth place in the Skoloholics Pick ‘Em League like Peterplaysbass.” They then called me a “Boomer,” which is good, I think. It means I really gave an explosive speech.
Harrison Smith’s Metamucil is in seventh. I’m pretty sure that is Benjamin. He knows he can push my “Harrison Smith is too old” button and get me frothing at the mouth with the rage I feel at seeing Smith return. Oh well. Maybe he will get his 40th interception. That will be a great story to tell his grandkids…when he sees them next week.
Bowbunch came in at eight. We have to cut him some slack, though. He probably made his picks from a tree stand while a grizzly was trying to climb up and get him.
DE Viking came in last with 88 points. I think we can all appreciate him giving us a head start. It is rare and uncommon to find the quality of mercy in people today.
Everyone got the Pittsburg, Lions, Jax and Eagles games right. Everyone got the FREAKING Chargers wrong.
We had two GENIUS picks. Mjolnir was the only one to get the Rams/49ers game right. And Bowbunch was the only one to get the Jets/Titans game right.
We also had two ICONOCLAST picks. Bowbunch was the only one to take the Patriots over the Seahags. Peterplaysbass was the only one to take the Dolphins over the Raiders.
We had no TRAITOR picks this week. Everyone took the Vikings to win. Maybe one could claim DE and I are almost traitors because we took the Vikings to win with only one confidence point. I prefer to think that we successfully resisted our inner Eyores, however. That’s a big psychological step.
One more item: I am pretty sure I picked the Giants over the Cowboys, but then I looked and saw I got the loss because I had the Cowboys picked. I am going to file a complaint with the commissioner that someone hacked my account and changed that pick to sabotage my season.
Me: Commissioner, I would like to file a complaint.
Commissioner (also me): What is your complaint?
Me: Someone hacked my account, changed a pick and cost me six points.
Commissioner (also me): Sounds legit. Moving forward, everyone will recognize that you actually have six more points than your official score shows. So you are sitting at 106 points.
Me: Thank you. Truly, you are a benevolent leader.
Unfortunately for you, if the Vikings keep playing Wentz they’ll probably be a decent not great team, like 10 wins and a middle of the draft pick. I don’t disagree with you about drafting one of those two but don’t think its going to be possible
Let’s see. We need to convert the percentages to fractions, reduce the numerator to zero and multiply denominators.
99% (Browns) means 1 in a 100 they lose.
99% (Bears, regular season) means 1 in 10,000 they lose both. (100×100)
96% (Bears, playoffs) means 1 in 250,000 they lose all three. (10k x 25)
90% (Vikings, week 1) means 1 in 2,500,000 they lose all four.
Excellent!
(I was a statistician too, what a funny world. What are they odds there are two of those here at this site?)
JRo_42
14 September 2026 1:29 pm
My thoughts about the game:
It was heavily rigged from the begging towards GB. Picked up flag (which may have been the right call, but they only ever do that for GB, not the Vikings), had to challenge the catch but of course GB gets A. Jones called down because he “may” have been touched way before he fell even though the refs didn’t see it and they get “replay assist” to fix it, missed facemasks, etc. Then usually the NFL realizes people are mad about the rigged game so they make a questionable call or two the other way, knowing that the losing team is discouraged and fully expecting them not to mount a comeback when losing badly already, but hey, if they do, it’s a comeback story for more views! That’s their MO and they do it weekly. But the team they wanted to win did not, so expect even more of a bogus game next week!
Also, Flores is not good IMO. He’s way overrated, the Packers were wide open all over and averaging like 9.8 yards per play the 1st half. If not for a lucky strip sack and tipped pick, the Packers likely still would have won IMO.
Yes, that was a strip sack and shoulda been 6 for the Saints, and Lions should be 0-1. Im not getting on the rigged bandwagon though. If you think its rigged, there’s really no point in caring or watching.
.@NFL per this ruling, I'd like the league to review all 169 of my interceptions. My intent was clearly to throw to MY receiver. Please advise. https://t.co/WDXAFIAekD
According to the 2026 NFL official rulebook: “When a Team A player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional movement forward of his hand starts a forward pass…
“If contact by an opponent materially affects a passer after the passer begins his throwing motion, it is a forward pass if he passes the ball, regardless of where the ball strikes the ground, a player, an official, or anything else. When this occurs, intentional grounding rules do not apply.
In the replay, I though Goff started to move his hand forward when he was hit….hence the “forward pass” decision
Game opened as I thought, with a Murray interception. Ugly looking head injury, with that fencing posture I’d guesstimate he’s out until after the bye, and of course will be a setup to get back into the concussion protocol within 15 plays with his running about.
We were looking pretty bad considering GB was without Parsons or Jacobs. Their cobbled together OL looked bad, reminded me of a few OL horror shows the Vikings have fielded. Love was scrambling for his life successfully…until he wasn’t.
I don’t think we got a single offensive holding call.
The QBOTF is not on the roster, I still am jonesing for a top pick in next year’s draft; otherwise, we are in for a good five years of not too hot, not too cold, tepid football. I assumed we would win this rival game at home.
The best coach in the league not currently coaching is our defensive coach. Need to jettison KOC and his predictable play calling, ASAP. We looked significantly outcoached by LaFleur in the first half. I am very encouraged with how Flores had his side of the team prepared for the game. Turner looks great.
I suppose if the QB sneak worked we wouldn’t be celebrating a victory. Game of inches and LaFleur’s seat must be getting warm.
I am NOT a fan of the HC/OC combo. Again and again that combo seems to miss the forest for the trees. LaFleur had a game plan and would not budge from that game plan…where have I seen that before?
Not sure the QBOTF not being on the roster is that big a deal. Niners built a strong roster and have gone to SB’s with less than a stellar QB. Rams built a roster and went and got Stafford as did the Seahawks with Darnold. Build a strong roster and there’s always a way to get the QB.
There is a trend under KOC’s tutelage for the team to be trailing at the half. A lot of 3 and out gasps around the two minute warning allowing the opponent to trot down and put up a trey or more. The team looks better in the second half after making adjustments at the half. I don’t know who else you blame that on, maybe the placekicker?
I know you are one of KOC’s biggest fans. Sometimes I think you are him.
#Vikings QB Kyler Murray is in the concussion protocol and is unlikely to play on Sunday, per Adam Schefter. Carson Wentz would be in line to start against Chicago.
He damn near got to Love many times and I expect that to continue and not all QBs have Love’s escape skills BUT Caleb does and will hurt the Vikes if he does escape. Gotta be disciplined in rush this week for sure.
It will be interesting to see how the QB spot goes this week. There are a lot of people that thought if Murray goes down Wentz would finish the game, but if he is out for a while JJ would start games. I don’t think anyone thought Murray would get injured in the first quarter of the first game.
Does Wentz start the next couple of games or does JJ get the starts?
Kyler looked like a scared child behind that oline. To be fair though, the oline is not great.
Wentz may not have the mobility that Kyler has but he is consistent and isn’t phased by pressure. Adding to that, Wentz was not getting reps with the starters in training camp and hasn’t since regular season last year. I think he will be the starter going forward barring an injury.
Kyler has been behind worse O-line with way less weapons. The Packers DC knew Kyler’s weakness and exploited it. This is where KOC has to play chess and not checkers and should have seen this coming and tried to exploit their over aggressiveness. My big knock on KOC is he is very predictable.
As I have said before, I am not a big Kyler Murrey fan. I think he is an undersized, athletic QB, who struggles playing in a “system”, and our offense is a system. That said, I hate seeing people get hurt, but I do think we are better with Wentz over Murrey. Wentz starts until he proves he cannot do the job. Ideally, JJM can relax, make smart decisions, and the the guy we wanted him to be before the end of the season, but maybe it is more “hope” than reality?
I think if it were week three or four, JJ would get the next start. Being it is only going to be week two Wentz will get the start. I don’t want to continue starting Wentz, as it would be nice to save him, in case he is needed later in the year. Looking back on last year and how we completely destroyed him.
The reffs saved our ass quite a bit yesterday, but honestly, they did that A LOT for the Packers for about a decade + so, I really don’t feel that bad about it.
Personally think a good chunk of the calls were legit. And the ones that weren’t made up for what they missed – several shots to Wentz’s head, JJ facemask, cut block on Pace…
agreed, there were enough missed calls to make it more fair…
but also, i’m COMPLETELY fine being on this end of it every once in a while. EVERY SINGLE TEAM has had calls benefit them that might not always be right, so I DON’T CARE
There were a couple of Turner shots on Love that I thought were clearly RTP…a couple of facemasks on Jefferson…overall the calls were in our favor but not egregiously so.
I think it just felt more beneficial because most of them happened on that one drive that lead to a score. Other then that, yeah they about evened out.
so i’m admittedly not an “online” guy….but this video is opening my eyes up to the fact that there are SO MANY people that just….have a camera rolling and they…commentate on the game in real time? what in the world. why is this even a thing…….granted it’s fun watching when they lose their minds
They remind me of a bunch of the posters on the DN game threads only with Video included.
It is all performative, doom if there is a bad play, sunshine and unicorns if things are going well. I couldn’t take all of that emotional whiplash.
Streamers are a weird breed, and most of their market, regardless of what they are streaming are kids between the ages of 8-20 years old, and they can make $$$ off of it so.
It’s a stretch to call Wentz accurate. He missed some make throws a pro QB should not, and a fair number of the completions were inaccurate but hauled in via big reach and big effort.
That is fair, but compared to the rest of the QB room, he is ok.
I agree he got bailed out a couple times throwing behind receivers.
Still, I think he is better than Midget or current state JJ. I also think we will end up seeing all 4 QBs at some point this year, so we will have more things to discuss about who the starter should be.
I have to say… I HATE those roughing the passer calls. I don’t care if it’s for, against or neutral for the result on the Vikings. I hate that defenses aren’t allowed to play football when near the QB, GIVE THEM FLAGS!!!! That said… how many times have we been on the other side of those and Packer fans basically said fuck off you lost? So it is great for the shoe to be on the other foot haha.
You can’t hit them high, you can’t hit them low and if you hit them just right after fighting through elite level athletic 300+ pound monsters of OL and you are at an absolute sprint at 10,000 RPMs to get to the QB you are magically supposed to just rev down instantaneously to a full stuff… friggin insane.
Agreed. It’s the worst penalty in the game. It’s so difficult to avoid in some situations.
I think when it’s obvious that a player tried to crunch and hurt the QB, fine. But a normal hit/tackle that happens to put weight on the QB? These guys are huge and are used to (and built) to use their weight to their advantage.
I skipped the second quarter and hung out with my dogs instead. Came back for the second half and that was a very good decision. fun 4th quarter for sure.
Offense is predictable still. Very glad the FTP defense sucked late.
Wentz/JJ/Brosmer or Murry is what I see as the pecking order. Seen enough of the midget. He is no better than the guy AZ paid to go elsewhere and is not a long term solution. At least if Wentz goes down, I would prefer another shot for JJ
Officials suck. Hurt both teams with bad calls.
Turner makes the draft in 2024 look much better in hindsight.
Old Man Smith almost had his 40th INT, and he has lost a step.
The Panthers defense is really bad. I’m not that worried. Chicago will be good on offense, but Caleb won’t have it that easy every week. I’m glad they’ll have some false hope to begin the season.
Great to get the first win of the season. I was shocked at the end of the game, not sure what had just happened. When’s the last time the refs helped us win a game?
Biggest game-changing play was MLF not taking the points and getting stuffed on 4th and 1. All fell apart from there for the Pack. Like really fell apart.
I don’t like that the refs helped us out big time on that one drive. The calls were ticky tacky. Even though they missed calls on us earlier, and even though the Packers always won that way in the past so “it’s fair,” I still don’t like it. It feels slimy and gross. Is this how Packer fans always feel after a win? Yuck. I’d rather win it by talent, not by NFL help.
It is striking to me that MN was -2.5 on the spread, and that led to us being up 25-22 before the Packers’ offensive line and Love decided to crumble.
Happy for victory Monday. Happy for Wentz. Not sure what this season will hold for us though. I’m still guarded on hope.
If the Pack had lost from 3-10 points you could say those calls really had a major impact in the final outcome but you don’t get to lose by 17 and say the calls on one drive was the game’s deciding factor. I hate those defensive calls too. Let defenses play defense or give QBs flags. Sick of it.
But it was a huge turning point in the momentum. If the Pack stops us on that drive, I don’t have a ton of faith that the game would have gone our way.
I don’t disagree BUT… I don’t care what the situation is. You don’t get to lose by 17 and say the calls on one drive dictated the outcome of the game. You just don’t. Prove it that it had such a huge impact and lose by 3, then you have an argument to be made.
How is everyone liking the new virtual measurement? You don’t get to see them spot the ball, you don’t see how they determine where the line to gain is, just a graphic of what the computer thinks happened. Not that the chains were always accurate, but at least it felt somewhat legit allowing for human error. But then it’s all entertainment anyway…
Skoloholics Pick ‘Em League Week One Summary
It’s a brand new season in the Skoloholics Pick ‘Em League, and I don’t think it is any exaggeration to say it is the most exciting thing that has ever happened in my life. It is up there with that time I found a really cool stick while walking.
PA Viking Fan came in at the top. Then again, PA Viking Fan always comes in at the top. We need to gang up on him and take him down a notch. Maybe we can come up with a handicap rule for PA. For example, he must always put 16 confidence points on the Packers to win or something like that.
I came in second. This makes sense. I put in a lot of offseason training and employ a new picking technique: I wear my bifocals, so I can actually read the names of the teams…
Mjolnir comes in third. I think this is Mjolnir’s first time in the league? Or at least the first time using his official handle? If I’m wrong, you’ll have to forgive me. I wear bifocals. What do you expect?
JacksonVike came in at a solid fourth place. I’m pulling for JacksonVike. He is my dark horse this season. I actually asked my wife about putting a second mortgage on the house to bet on JacksonVike winning the league. She said, “Sounds like a sure thing! Do it!” She is very supportive that way.
Surly took the fifth spot. Fifth sound mediocre, but it is really not that bad. It is only five points out of second place. It is a good spot to be, just laying in the weeds to strike in week 2!
Peterplaysbass is in sixth. I think this is Peter’s first season, as well? I expect big things from him. Just the other day, I gave a motivation speech to a bunch of gradeschoolers and told them, “If you work hard, someday you can be in sixth place in the Skoloholics Pick ‘Em League like Peterplaysbass.” They then called me a “Boomer,” which is good, I think. It means I really gave an explosive speech.
Harrison Smith’s Metamucil is in seventh. I’m pretty sure that is Benjamin. He knows he can push my “Harrison Smith is too old” button and get me frothing at the mouth with the rage I feel at seeing Smith return. Oh well. Maybe he will get his 40th interception. That will be a great story to tell his grandkids…when he sees them next week.
Bowbunch came in at eight. We have to cut him some slack, though. He probably made his picks from a tree stand while a grizzly was trying to climb up and get him.
DE Viking came in last with 88 points. I think we can all appreciate him giving us a head start. It is rare and uncommon to find the quality of mercy in people today.
Everyone got the Pittsburg, Lions, Jax and Eagles games right. Everyone got the FREAKING Chargers wrong.
We had two GENIUS picks. Mjolnir was the only one to get the Rams/49ers game right. And Bowbunch was the only one to get the Jets/Titans game right.
We also had two ICONOCLAST picks. Bowbunch was the only one to take the Patriots over the Seahags. Peterplaysbass was the only one to take the Dolphins over the Raiders.
We had no TRAITOR picks this week. Everyone took the Vikings to win. Maybe one could claim DE and I are almost traitors because we took the Vikings to win with only one confidence point. I prefer to think that we successfully resisted our inner Eyores, however. That’s a big psychological step.
One more item: I am pretty sure I picked the Giants over the Cowboys, but then I looked and saw I got the loss because I had the Cowboys picked. I am going to file a complaint with the commissioner that someone hacked my account and changed that pick to sabotage my season.
Me: Commissioner, I would like to file a complaint.
Commissioner (also me): What is your complaint?
Me: Someone hacked my account, changed a pick and cost me six points.
Commissioner (also me): Sounds legit. Moving forward, everyone will recognize that you actually have six more points than your official score shows. So you are sitting at 106 points.
Me: Thank you. Truly, you are a benevolent leader.
Commissioner (also me): I try…
Love to see sean payton lose badly on national tv, hahahahaha
I hate him but I also hate Mahomes (his wife and brother), Kelce, Reid, Tswift equally as much so. F em all.
Chefs up 24-10 over Anus Face (aka Buttholemouth) on MNF.
Travis Swift just had a catch and run for a long gain and they showed his wife have an orgasm on national TV.
The FTP have the 2nd most embarrassing loss of week.
I figure they mean how they lost as opposed to who they lost to.
https://fansided.com/nfl/ranking-the-most-embarrassing-losses-of-nfl-week-1-justin-herbert-held-in-check-by-arizona
This one is hilarious 😆
Love it.
Went over to ACME packing website.
Good stuff.
Games are rigged for the Vikings.
Murray was an idiot. Hit was clean.
“LeFlop” getting ripped a new one.
So glorious!!
i don’t much care for Murray, but that was definitely a hit to the head
In the second half Turner and the cash man lived in the Green Bay backfield, they were everywhere, but yeah like jro said, Flores sucks
Getting rid of Flores would certainly help with my Dante Moore dream or that Manning kid so hey, I’m all for it!
Unfortunately for you, if the Vikings keep playing Wentz they’ll probably be a decent not great team, like 10 wins and a middle of the draft pick. I don’t disagree with you about drafting one of those two but don’t think its going to be possible
I am a statistician by trade (or was) and i verified the math as correct
Let’s see. We need to convert the percentages to fractions, reduce the numerator to zero and multiply denominators.
99% (Browns) means 1 in a 100 they lose.
99% (Bears, regular season) means 1 in 10,000 they lose both. (100×100)
96% (Bears, playoffs) means 1 in 250,000 they lose all three. (10k x 25)
90% (Vikings, week 1) means 1 in 2,500,000 they lose all four.
Excellent!
(I was a statistician too, what a funny world. What are they odds there are two of those here at this site?)
My thoughts about the game:
It was heavily rigged from the begging towards GB. Picked up flag (which may have been the right call, but they only ever do that for GB, not the Vikings), had to challenge the catch but of course GB gets A. Jones called down because he “may” have been touched way before he fell even though the refs didn’t see it and they get “replay assist” to fix it, missed facemasks, etc. Then usually the NFL realizes people are mad about the rigged game so they make a questionable call or two the other way, knowing that the losing team is discouraged and fully expecting them not to mount a comeback when losing badly already, but hey, if they do, it’s a comeback story for more views! That’s their MO and they do it weekly. But the team they wanted to win did not, so expect even more of a bogus game next week!
Also, Flores is not good IMO. He’s way overrated, the Packers were wide open all over and averaging like 9.8 yards per play the 1st half. If not for a lucky strip sack and tipped pick, the Packers likely still would have won IMO.
When they rush 6-8 guys, the secondary gets real exposed. Gonna give up a few big plays, in teturn for scaring the opoosing QB sh×tless
Yeah Flores sucks, bring back Ed fucking donatell
Your opinion is sacrilegious.
Any thoughts on the Goff “backwards forwards incomplete pass”? The NFL is shamelessly and hopelessly rigged IMO.
Yes, that was a strip sack and shoulda been 6 for the Saints, and Lions should be 0-1. Im not getting on the rigged bandwagon though. If you think its rigged, there’s really no point in caring or watching.
If you think it’s not after stuff like that, I’ve got a bridge to sell you…
I liked this response
Yeah, and N.O. should have won since their kicker clearly intended to make the kick at the end of regulation.
LOL…
Fitz !!
I always loved Fitzpatrick, wanted him to play for Minnesota
From ESPN:
According to the 2026 NFL official rulebook: “When a Team A player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional movement forward of his hand starts a forward pass…
“If contact by an opponent materially affects a passer after the passer begins his throwing motion, it is a forward pass if he passes the ball, regardless of where the ball strikes the ground, a player, an official, or anything else. When this occurs, intentional grounding rules do not apply.
In the replay, I though Goff started to move his hand forward when he was hit….hence the “forward pass” decision
If anyone who has posted a thread, could let me know how to change the picture up top, it would be greatly appreciated.
I think I usually delete it and add a new one.
My two cents…
Game opened as I thought, with a Murray interception. Ugly looking head injury, with that fencing posture I’d guesstimate he’s out until after the bye, and of course will be a setup to get back into the concussion protocol within 15 plays with his running about.
We were looking pretty bad considering GB was without Parsons or Jacobs. Their cobbled together OL looked bad, reminded me of a few OL horror shows the Vikings have fielded. Love was scrambling for his life successfully…until he wasn’t.
I don’t think we got a single offensive holding call.
The QBOTF is not on the roster, I still am jonesing for a top pick in next year’s draft; otherwise, we are in for a good five years of not too hot, not too cold, tepid football. I assumed we would win this rival game at home.
The best coach in the league not currently coaching is our defensive coach. Need to jettison KOC and his predictable play calling, ASAP. We looked significantly outcoached by LaFleur in the first half. I am very encouraged with how Flores had his side of the team prepared for the game. Turner looks great.
I suppose if the QB sneak worked we wouldn’t be celebrating a victory. Game of inches and LaFleur’s seat must be getting warm.
Packers should move on from LeFleur. He’s been there too long.
I am NOT a fan of the HC/OC combo. Again and again that combo seems to miss the forest for the trees. LaFleur had a game plan and would not budge from that game plan…where have I seen that before?
You misspelled “lifetime contract”
Not sure the QBOTF not being on the roster is that big a deal. Niners built a strong roster and have gone to SB’s with less than a stellar QB. Rams built a roster and went and got Stafford as did the Seahawks with Darnold. Build a strong roster and there’s always a way to get the QB.
KOC was fine calling plays, stuck with the running game and Wentz made timely throws. Defense was good in the second half.
Not good enough, every game must be perfect 37 to 0 victory. Not sure where these lofty expectations were for the teams performance in 2018-2023?
I’ve been dreaming ‘bout the day when you wake up and find
That what you’re looking for has been here the whole time
Yeah, 17 point win isn’t good enough
There is a trend under KOC’s tutelage for the team to be trailing at the half. A lot of 3 and out gasps around the two minute warning allowing the opponent to trot down and put up a trey or more. The team looks better in the second half after making adjustments at the half. I don’t know who else you blame that on, maybe the placekicker?
I know you are one of KOC’s biggest fans. Sometimes I think you are him.
Did someone with Twitter hit him up after the game?
Turner was a monster, cash man too
12 people got strike 1 in the survival pool.
14 people got their pick right.
10 people took the Chargers……
hahaha!
I picked the Lions, cause F the *aints
I got the Steelers.
Saints almost took you down….
Yep, Kitties were making me a little nervous.
I picked the chargers. Gonna roll with the VIkings from now on. Should be over quickly for me
I forgot I took the Chargers. Curse you, Herbert. Our relationship is over!
But that smile. That damn smile…
I am quite happy I stayed away from the “sure thing pick”.
I have been burned on the sure-fire pick the first game like two out of three seasons…
How the hell did they lose to the cardinals
Cardinals got better by subtraction, we got worse, for 3 drives, by addition.
Now I understand why math is hard.
Oh, and Dallas Turner is a superstar in the making……
He damn near got to Love many times and I expect that to continue and not all QBs have Love’s escape skills BUT Caleb does and will hurt the Vikes if he does escape. Gotta be disciplined in rush this week for sure.
Guy was murdering them.
Yep.
It took him a couple of years.
Give credit to Kwesi for getting that pick right.
It will be interesting to see how the QB spot goes this week. There are a lot of people that thought if Murray goes down Wentz would finish the game, but if he is out for a while JJ would start games. I don’t think anyone thought Murray would get injured in the first quarter of the first game.
Does Wentz start the next couple of games or does JJ get the starts?
Wentz.
Wentz earned it. KOC will “be careful” with Murray, giving him a shot at building off of Wentz’s strong finish to yesterday’s game.
Wentz.
JJ will not play until both Murray and Wentz are hurt.
So, first quarter next week?
Wentz for sure next week, I reckon. I expect the Vikes will lose, but if he plays well, he will be starting again week 3.
Kyler looked like a scared child behind that oline. To be fair though, the oline is not great.
Wentz may not have the mobility that Kyler has but he is consistent and isn’t phased by pressure. Adding to that, Wentz was not getting reps with the starters in training camp and hasn’t since regular season last year. I think he will be the starter going forward barring an injury.
Solid points especially Wentz hasn’t had any reps with starters all camp.
Kyler has been behind worse O-line with way less weapons. The Packers DC knew Kyler’s weakness and exploited it. This is where KOC has to play chess and not checkers and should have seen this coming and tried to exploit their over aggressiveness. My big knock on KOC is he is very predictable.
This. Which is why he consistently has the worst 1st-half game plans in the league.
And he was running to run, not running to throw. That was just an accident waiting to happen.
As I have said before, I am not a big Kyler Murrey fan. I think he is an undersized, athletic QB, who struggles playing in a “system”, and our offense is a system. That said, I hate seeing people get hurt, but I do think we are better with Wentz over Murrey. Wentz starts until he proves he cannot do the job. Ideally, JJM can relax, make smart decisions, and the the guy we wanted him to be before the end of the season, but maybe it is more “hope” than reality?
I don’t see how McFragile starts unless Wentz gets hurt.
Dude refused to play the 3rd preseason game and is rightly QB3.
It has to be Wentz.
Wentz. McFragile™ is spoiled cabbage at this point.
I think if it were week three or four, JJ would get the next start. Being it is only going to be week two Wentz will get the start. I don’t want to continue starting Wentz, as it would be nice to save him, in case he is needed later in the year. Looking back on last year and how we completely destroyed him.
The reffs saved our ass quite a bit yesterday, but honestly, they did that A LOT for the Packers for about a decade + so, I really don’t feel that bad about it.
Personally think a good chunk of the calls were legit. And the ones that weren’t made up for what they missed – several shots to Wentz’s head, JJ facemask, cut block on Pace…
agreed, there were enough missed calls to make it more fair…
but also, i’m COMPLETELY fine being on this end of it every once in a while. EVERY SINGLE TEAM has had calls benefit them that might not always be right, so I DON’T CARE
There were a couple of Turner shots on Love that I thought were clearly RTP…a couple of facemasks on Jefferson…overall the calls were in our favor but not egregiously so.
I think it just felt more beneficial because most of them happened on that one drive that lead to a score. Other then that, yeah they about evened out.
13 penalties.
Pulled points off the board, got stuffed and lost all momentum.
dirty, cheap brand of football.
FTP!
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This is so fun to watch.
so i’m admittedly not an “online” guy….but this video is opening my eyes up to the fact that there are SO MANY people that just….have a camera rolling and they…commentate on the game in real time? what in the world. why is this even a thing…….granted it’s fun watching when they lose their minds
Yeah it’s weird. I would hate to watch this sort of thing, not to mention have cameras on me as I reacted to the Vikings.
Also, can you believe that people sit there and watch people play video games? That one makes even less sense to me.
They remind me of a bunch of the posters on the DN game threads only with Video included.
It is all performative, doom if there is a bad play, sunshine and unicorns if things are going well. I couldn’t take all of that emotional whiplash.
It’s because they think that everyone wants to know everything about their lives. Some people never grow out of the ego-centric age.
Streamers are a weird breed, and most of their market, regardless of what they are streaming are kids between the ages of 8-20 years old, and they can make $$$ off of it so.
Hilarious!
😂 😆 🤣
These guys are freaking clueless.
Do they point out the non facemask calls?
Do they lose it when Lefleur effed it up?
Did they do this when the Pukers were the beneficiaries of phantom calls?
I was happy to see Jefferson be a factor again. He loves the old QBs.
fixed
It’s a stretch to call Wentz accurate. He missed some make throws a pro QB should not, and a fair number of the completions were inaccurate but hauled in via big reach and big effort.
That is fair, but compared to the rest of the QB room, he is ok.
I agree he got bailed out a couple times throwing behind receivers.
Still, I think he is better than Midget or current state JJ. I also think we will end up seeing all 4 QBs at some point this year, so we will have more things to discuss about who the starter should be.
Yeah, I am pretty sure Wentz will get dinged if he has to play too much…but I think he is the most steady QB we have.
It will be as it was predicted: We will cobble together a full season from these three injury-prone QBs.
Wentz has the highest floor, I think.
Agreed, he had some big, easy misses. But that throw to Jets on the 2 point conversion was SWEET!
talk about threading the needle
That’s true. That was a beautiful throw
He threw a lot of hospital balls yesterday. Mostly in the first couple of drives, but he still put the receivers in bad situations.
Yup.
Did you see that snag by Oliver? The ball was two feet behind him. I was markedly impressed by that catch.
Agreed. Also, if JJ made that throw people would be furious.
Great catch for sure.
I can’t wait for the Vikings to start losing next week.
Definitely awesome watching the refs do the Packer rules to the Packers.
So sweet.
Yeah…? When did the Pack start losing this year? How many games did that take and who beat them… lemme know.
Games over, you should be focusing on not losing to the Jets which you might if you play the way your team did in the 4th quarter. Ta ta there Ree ree
I don’t have to wait to see the Packers lose. They already did.
If I were you I’d be more focused on when your team will win again. Lost their last 6 games in a row. Haven’t won since Micah went down. Ha, ha, ha.
Anthony Barr’s reaction to the Packer fans complaining about the Rodgers Rule being called on them.
I have to say… I HATE those roughing the passer calls. I don’t care if it’s for, against or neutral for the result on the Vikings. I hate that defenses aren’t allowed to play football when near the QB, GIVE THEM FLAGS!!!! That said… how many times have we been on the other side of those and Packer fans basically said fuck off you lost? So it is great for the shoe to be on the other foot haha.
I don’t like them either. It seems like so many are cases of “What is the guy supposed to do?”
I’d like to see an emphasis on don’t grab the head (if a flailing arm grazes the helmet, so be it) and don’t kill their knees.
You can’t hit them high, you can’t hit them low and if you hit them just right after fighting through elite level athletic 300+ pound monsters of OL and you are at an absolute sprint at 10,000 RPMs to get to the QB you are magically supposed to just rev down instantaneously to a full stuff… friggin insane.
100%
And if you are in midair with them, you have to somehow cushion their landing underneath you.
I still remember when Jerry Ball blew through the center and pancaked Aikman out of a game.
Guys like Aikman must be so pissed at the new rules! 🙂
Agreed. It’s the worst penalty in the game. It’s so difficult to avoid in some situations.
I think when it’s obvious that a player tried to crunch and hurt the QB, fine. But a normal hit/tackle that happens to put weight on the QB? These guys are huge and are used to (and built) to use their weight to their advantage.
It’s basically “don’t touch the QB”.
I know that’s way over simplified because the QB does get hit.
But in terms of roughing the passer?
Total judgement call week in and week out.
Did you hear of the new rule where New York can call a flagrant foul over the stadium refs and eject a player?
While I’m glad the Pukers got a taste of their own medicine, preferred outcomes will always be the accusation at the league.
They can call a flagrant foul… hmmm…. sounds like they can really swing a game if they’d like. I’m shocked
I am going to start a gofundme for the Packers to cover the cost of the counseling they will need after yesterday.
My goal is to hit $25,000,000 because I figure you guys are good for it.
The better team lost.
Typical loser reply.
That is good that they still believe in themselves. That is half the battle in counseling.
0-6 since Micah went down. Thought I’d remind you again.
The better team lost their starting QB due to a dirty hit. FIFY
Just issue new Packer stock.
Their fans are dumb enough to think it’s real……
When I toured Lambeau, the tour guides proudly brought up Packer stock multiple times.
Other than that, they were pretty cool.
i hope you guys lose big next week. Vikings got lucky.
What went wrong for your team, you think? Is there a reason the blitzing to was successful in the 4th quarter? What happened to GB’s defense?
Lefleur screwed the pooch for you.
We hope the packers lose every week, so…
I hope you guys sign MLF to a lifetime extension
I skipped the second quarter and hung out with my dogs instead. Came back for the second half and that was a very good decision. fun 4th quarter for sure.
FTP!
Going to be different in Chicago that’s for sure.
59 points?
Ugg.
The Panthers defense is really bad. I’m not that worried. Chicago will be good on offense, but Caleb won’t have it that easy every week. I’m glad they’ll have some false hope to begin the season.
I still think it is Chicago’s division because Ben Johnson is the best coach.
Lions should not have let him go. They should have gotten rid of Campbell instead. Their window is over as a result.
I agree that BJ (chuckle) is the best coach in the division.
Williams is also living up to the hype.
FTP.
Great to get the first win of the season. I was shocked at the end of the game, not sure what had just happened. When’s the last time the refs helped us win a game?
Biggest game-changing play was MLF not taking the points and getting stuffed on 4th and 1. All fell apart from there for the Pack. Like really fell apart.
I don’t like that the refs helped us out big time on that one drive. The calls were ticky tacky. Even though they missed calls on us earlier, and even though the Packers always won that way in the past so “it’s fair,” I still don’t like it. It feels slimy and gross. Is this how Packer fans always feel after a win? Yuck. I’d rather win it by talent, not by NFL help.
It is striking to me that MN was -2.5 on the spread, and that led to us being up 25-22 before the Packers’ offensive line and Love decided to crumble.
Happy for victory Monday. Happy for Wentz. Not sure what this season will hold for us though. I’m still guarded on hope.
If the Pack had lost from 3-10 points you could say those calls really had a major impact in the final outcome but you don’t get to lose by 17 and say the calls on one drive was the game’s deciding factor. I hate those defensive calls too. Let defenses play defense or give QBs flags. Sick of it.
But it was a huge turning point in the momentum. If the Pack stops us on that drive, I don’t have a ton of faith that the game would have gone our way.
I don’t disagree BUT… I don’t care what the situation is. You don’t get to lose by 17 and say the calls on one drive dictated the outcome of the game. You just don’t. Prove it that it had such a huge impact and lose by 3, then you have an argument to be made.
For sure MLF and the Pack OL deserve blame. MLF’s decision to go for it on 4th and 1 was the catalyst for the meltdown, aided by the reffing calls.
Uh………first?
Uh…… first WIN for the Vikings and first LOSS for the Pukers!
someone missed this comment that’s auto thumbs downing me haha. Love it, living rent free!
Yeah, the comment about Dallas Turner was an odd one to down vote.
I think someone has an involuntary hand twitch or something.
First auto rec