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I am going to Sioux Falls today. Another day, another party…
Sorry to hear that, SF sucks.
Someone goofed and changed the title and text of the thread today and left the stale comments from yesterday.
GM
FTP
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Yep, I accidentally edited yesterday post instead of cloning. Fixed now.
Artificially inflating comment count…
Notah Begay says Tiger is trying to formulate a strategy and approach that he can work within, given the constraints that he’s presented with. And he’s got some constraints. Begay says he’s got zero mobility in that surgically repaired left ankle and really has low-back challenges now, which he knew he was going to have.
Looks like Tiger will be playing in the Masters next week.
And he’s giving up sex as part of his prep program. Missed cut is a real possibility.
Never give up sex…
Looks like it may be a bit wet for first couple days.
Might help him with softer conditions to keep the ball in play. Will tax his legs though walking in that.
I don’t put much stock in extended forecasts but what it shows now. Masters is a pretty course. Sunny day and songbirds. My fave of majors, like British but time difference…
Same… Masters is my fave.
Love the Masters, Us open and the British Open. All are great and usually quite different tests of elite championship golf. If you can win the Masters and either of the Opens, you’re quite a golfer.
Indeed… and Jordan Spieth started out like he was gonna be elite for years… then… fizzle.
Used to watch more golf but this LIV/PGA shit is pissing me off.
You’re not alone. Pisses me off too.
i watched The Truman Show the other night, and that movie still holds up, love that movie.
that is all. continue acting like Penis Jr is going to be the answer at QB….ya idiots
So your take is ‘The Truman Show’ is good but We Are Idiots???
yes, it’s a made for tv movie called “We are idiots” and it’s based on everyone on this site
Well since you are here we are all in this together.
oh yes, i’m the chief idiot
He is. You just wait.
if by “he’s a guy playing the QB” is the answer, then yes.
Interesting list of cap hits this year. Top 6 are Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford, Kyler Murray, and Daniel Jones. Cousins makes the list twice.
That $53M that Denver is paying for R. Wilson to play in Pittsburg is insane.
And now talking about spending a huge amount in draft capital to move up, and get a top QB.
Rumors and Smoke/Mirror Season.
We will find out the truth of it all come draft day.
Some of these teams must cook the books. Watson gets all that money and yet Browns put a playoff team on the field. And he’s played like two god quarters in two years. Dallas pays DAK a fortune and they seem to win 12 games every year. Maybe they have good accountants.
so he played REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY well?
for two quarters in two years sounds like.
thank you – hope you got the point.
Sorry JR, it just hit me funny so I had to mess with you.
No problem – typing is a skill and mine needs work.
It is a small g, so who knows.
Sometimes my job sucks, but a lot of times it is awesome. I was asked to biopsy a massive hypervascular mass involving a kidney. Biopsy of a kidney is already high risk secondary to risk of bleeding and this mass had the left renal vein enlarged to the point it was as big as the IVC. He also has a coagulopathy. It takes many many years of education but I surmised preprocedurally that this big hypervascular mass just might bleed. Let the pt and fam know if it bled (haha “if”) he’d be spending the night in the horse pistol.
Got my coax needle snuggled up to it, fired the biopsy gun, and a stream of blood the size of the 15 gauge needle comes spurting out. Well go figure. Cut up a bunch of little torpedoes of Surgifoam gelatin sponge and started shoving them in the coax needle. As in the House of God, all bleeding stops eventually.
The beauty of laying a plan out in advance is everyone is happy, me as well as I just call the hospitalist and say can you babysit pt for me, wash my hands figuratively of the case, and go on with my day.
‘spending the night in the horse pistol’
That doesn’t sound comfortable.
haha, thought the same thing. From here forth hospitals are now horse pistols!
Much like Refrigerators are known as ‘Frigid Gators’ in my family.
Sounds like a “Ricky-ism” from Trailer Park Boys haha.
Don’t know what any of that is.
But will take your word for it.
GET EDUCATED! lol
No thank you.
Sometimes Blissfully Ignorant is a good thing.
Oh c’mon. They are hilarious.
I used up the last of my Brain Bleach yesterday after seeing some Fat Lady dancing.
I will click on no more Social Media stuff here until I can at least get some more on hand.
This whole QB Draft is interesting to me.
Nix was considered #4 after the season then JJ passed him bye, now Penix has and last night I heard that Rattler might as well.
It is not as if a lot of games have been played lately.
“Interesting” indeed. Makes me wonder. We have some scientific types here that maybe can chime in and smooth some of my rough thoughts out.
Just seems everyone is trying to take something that is really not very precise and put too fine a point on it. Sort of like quantifying A is Better than B.
Heard two former NFL coaches recently say – there is everything on the film to show the abilities of the QB’s and make your evaluations.
But all this moving around after the games are over, I wonder.
The big knock on JJ after the season was his lower numbers than the other QBs.
So because Mich was a complete team, with a running game and great Def he is a worse QB?
What he was asked to do he did very well he was just asked to do less, or do it less often.
The Knock on Penix was he didn’t have a ‘middle game’ and in fact Mich covered deep and dared him to beat them underneath, he couldn’t.
All too complicated to me, I will leave it to KOC to identify ‘the guy’ and to KAM to get him if possible.
Heard Nix was pretty good too. Makes me think (other than your crybaby guy) KOC can get good QB play out of ANY of the rest. And not sure there is really all that much of a difference – just milking mice.
‘ not sure there is really all that much of a difference ‘
Which makes Trade Up/3 #1s talk kind of crazy.
Nix sucks
According to sources, the Vikings flew out their whole staff for a private workout with Michael Penix Jr. in Seattle, including HC Kevin O’Connell and GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.
He seems to be racing up the draft charts since his Pro Day.
As long as KAM doesn’t vastly overpay for a QB I am good.
(plus not getting The CryBaby of course)
Rec for not wanting the crybaby Diva.
Very interesting… We keep getting great steals historically with WRs that were undervalued whether that was behavior shit (Moss), small school (Thielen), Eagles are dumb (JJ), was a crack head before and also the Eagles are dumb (Carter), Addison was the last of 4 receivers taken in a row and looking to be the best… We’re due for a story like that with a QB right?
don’t really know much about these college QB’s. But watched this guy on some clips recently and he slings it really well.
Haven’t looked at him yet. If the Vikings are sending a large contingent to see him workout, I guess that means they’ve looked at his film, and he’s worth interviewing.
One other thing I like, he seemed to be willing to stand in the pocket (not take off) and let the play develop. Had good patience for a young QB.
‘Young QB’ is relative as he will be 24 May 8th.
I am fine with him. Probably the best arm currently for the QBs in the draft. I understand the injury concerns, but he has been relatively healthy the last two season.
I still think they will move up to get “The Guy they really want” if that is an option.
Penix is 11 or 23 material imo. Probably 23.
It’s a smoke screen. They are signaling to Arizona and the Chargers that they are really interested in Penix…And everyone knows the Vikes could get him at 11 or maybe at 23.
They are doing this to drive down the asking price for the 4th or 5th.
Kwesi playing 3D chess.
I really don’t know that much about him, but I watched one game of his and he was not impressive. Maybe he was just having an off day, which wouldn’t be cool because it was a bowl game and maybe he just can’t handle the pressure.
Love the pick!
I got a collections agency piece of mail. It was for almost $500 of my ex-wife’s medical expenses. I told them the bill is in her name, and I have in the divorce decree that she is responsible for all her medical bills. They said since the service was done while still married I’m still liable. So if she doesn’t pay it I have to then take to small claims court… crazy. Hope she pays! lol
Laws in different states are different.
First, might check your credit report and see if the charge (bill) is even on it. If not, forget it.
Second, did you sign for her medical expenses. If not, again forget it. and even if you did, probably not much is going to happen over a 500 bill.
So, at this point, just be patient and it will probably go away.
Interesting, I called the collections place. They said in SD the rule was if the charge was done for something while we were married we are both liable. Not paying scares the shit out of me. I have like an 820 credit that I am quite proud of haha.
I’d still be patience. Check your credit bureau once in a while, and if it does show up, call the credit bureau and put the “charge in dispute.”
Given the small amount of money, doubt anyone is going to want to go through the dispute process – just not worth it.
Good info, first thing I did though is contact my ex and said, hey you should pay this lol.
I have had a similar experience. Just so you know, everything the collection agency says on the phone is probably bullshit.
Tell them to put everything in writing.
Stand firm. Do some investigating with your state website and find the laws they are claiming to use to place this debt upon you.
I call bullshit.
Good point. I will see if she pays it first.
Going through a divorce and having a 820 is impressive.
It never dinged me. the Bureau of Indian Affairs however fucked me twice and dropped my credit 150 points… TWICE over the same mistake and one of the times they said I was right and had it corrected the credit bureau only raised my score back up 50 points… So then I had to fight that fight too.
It’s a collection agency. Tell them to take a hike.
Couldn’t that get turned in and ding my credit?
For $500 their easiest thing to do it just try to bully you into paying it. Are they going to want to send a person to small claims court? Maybe, but maybe not since they will be wasting most of their “profit”.
(I know kfey loves these moments) – well I got to watch the Oilers lay a massive turd in the start of a 4 game run of the big boys as a tuneup for the rapidly approaching post season last night. Completely destroyed by the Stars, a team I hate for many a reason. Just delightful.
Top Ten comment counts:
22548 benjammin
20876 GF
17955 Mick
15756 Skoldiers
13903 Lifer
13444 Five
13266 Bow
12716 DE
12169 Kodiak
10860 NVF
Have I hit 5k?
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No hill for a climber….
What’s my count? Interesting that Five, Kodiak and Lifer are still ranking in the top 10.
8096, and yeah, they are chatty Kathies
Thanks Ben. Need to up my game to crack top 10 next season.
Honestly shocked I’m that high…
That sounds like something Mjolnir would say
You get me
As I have gotten my blood pressure and anxiety under better and better control I’ve noticed I can handle more weed. Actually need more to get a buzz, doesn’t affect me as much. Nice!
Came here to say “Things Mjolnir has never said” lol
I’m never shocked at how high I am….
Must be All Time numbers as we haven’t see some of those guys in quite awhile.
what am i at?
8461
I’m a low life for sure. Seems like five folks don’t post any more and GF has been busy.
Other four carrying the load.
How many I got? Also, look at 5 still almost top 5, wow!
I think it’s rigged.
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BTW on the return flight from Orlando to MSP KOC was sitting in the row behind us with his daughter. His wife and other three kids were somewhere further back in the plane. He kept the daughter entertained while we sat on the taxiway in a ground stop for two hours.
I was texting Rob and Brad, we were joking about me giving him draft tips or overhearing his plans for the draft.
I would have been tempted to ask him about the teams plans or to give him advice about focusing on Defense and Trenches in the draft.
A classic moment for many of us, I saw him up at the counter asking a question and said to my wife, “That’s the HC of the Vikings, he must have been here for a family vacation at the theme parks. Would you take a pic of us if I go up and ask him?” Answer – no that would be weird.
Doubt I would have done that either.
I might have caught his eye and nodded but that is far as I could see myself going.
Unless he asked me questions about the team/draft of course.
Should’ve written up a play on a napkin and pass it to him and tell him it’s ’The Annexation of Puerto Rico’
Maybe a play that works on 3rd or 4th and 1.
He could certainly use one of those.
You didn’t like the tush push – back to back.
I don’t recall it working very well for us.
With our O-line it fails if they expect it.
Seems like for years third and short has been a problem.
If MT is writing a note on a napkin, that would have to be a huge napkin.
I did smile and nod at him as he boarded the plane. We shared a knowing look, I just know he was thinking wow there is MT Viking.
No doubt exactly what he was thinking!
You guys could of done a trade…you could have asked him who he was drafting and he could have asked you for free medical advice.
You blew it.
KOC would have come out ahead.
Unless he and his family get free medical from the Vikings.
i would have gotten a picture with him.
i’m not ashamed and i wouldn’t have made a huge deal of it, but if he was not sitting with his family i absolutely would have.
actually, he would have been lucky to have a picture with me, now that i’m thinking about it.
Guess what political donor from a famous bread restaurant contributed to Gavin Newsome’s campaign?
Yup,
After that came out and all the accusations he said he would pay his workers the $20 hr minimum.
Nice try I guess.
You officially an Idaho resident?
Nope, not yet.
We looked into that and until we officially move in full time we don’t qualify.
Got as much done as we could though.
WTF is a bread restaurant?
Ever heard of Panera?
Great sandwiches and soup too.
Excellent restaurant. No doubt.
We eat there occasionally but have not been to any fast food place since the changes, curious to see how much prices have gone up.
Do it!
We don’t do ‘fast food’ very often.
Usually when we are out running errands.
I cook on her work days.
Total package!
My cooking days are very rare indeed.
I get to experiment and fix ‘Guy Food’. Tonight I will make a chili & cornbread casserole/pie type thing as we have a storm moving in tonight.
The Teacher is just happy not to have to cook once she gets home.
My wife is a teacher and she is in the same boat. Unless I make really bad food, she isn’t about to complain.
My wife is a retired teacher….horribly stressful profession.
It is. Plus my wife in not one of those that just show up and teach and then rush out the door. She seems like she is always staying late for something. Last night she stayed late to help a student get caught up. She is the robotics advisor and so the next three Wednesdays she will be staying late to have a robotics session with the girl scouts so they can get their badges. I just wouldn’t be a good teacher, because I don’t think I could care that much, plus I would murder a kid and be in prison.
For all three of you – VP, NDR and SCVF. Thank your wives for being wonderful teachers. God knows we need a lot more like your three wives.
Thanks! and I agree – need more good teachers that care.
Thanks JR. I know my wife gets frustrated with those teachers that always rush out the door as soon as the day is over.
Teachers that care, and aren’t just going through the motions, put a lot of time in and are underpaid.
Teachers that don’t care, and are primarily in the profession for “summers off” are overpaid.
And the teachers that care don’t really get “summers off”. My wife teaches summer school in June and in August often ends up at school for curriculum study, etc.
And if it sounds like I’m bragging on her, I am. I am the reacher in this relationship and she is the settler.
They are underpaid and not appreciated.
Had a Private come in the Army who was a teacher.
Said he couldn’t raise his family on Teacher salary and Pvt Pay was actually an raise for him.
The Teacher and I have discussed that teaching is much easier if ‘you just don’t care’.
That is not her of course even with retirement looming.
Stressful as in figuring out what to do with all their spare time and how to spend that big ol’ pension?
Like as in the sandwich and soup restaurant?
Thats the one.
You mean the 5 star sandwich and soup restaurant?
I don’t know about any ‘5 Star’, just a chain of fast food places. A bit ‘artsy’ but nothing special.
I forget you’re moving to Nampa, so won’t have much of a culture shock. A visit to Panera is worth a 450 mile round trip drive.
Took our realtor friend to The Brick in Nampa. It was a high end french place she picked out.
Rich food that both The Teacher and I reacted to. Tasty but too rich for our digestion.
Nampa is like the NW Riviera.
It was know as New Jerusalem due to all of it’s Churches.
It is considered very conservative when compared to Boise.
(I’ve never actually been within 50 miles of Boise or the ‘burbs).
and hasn’t most of the big fast food chains already raised prices to accommodate the higher wage costs.
Layoffs, reduced hours. Love it when a plan comes together.
Yes Sir – a lousy law all around. Higher prices and more unemployment guaranteed.
But at least the politicians got to Virtue Signal so we got that going for us.
Probably.
But the bottomline cost likely will outweigh any price increases.
KFey may just be the lead singing for a new band. I met the current guitarist last fall at a buddies when we were watching the Vikings. They had a falling out with another guitarist and the lead singing so I reached out and I said fuck yeah, Ill give it a try. Met the rest of the members at the bar last night after work and got to know them, talk shop and music, was a great time. We gave each other home work to listen to songs and try and play and sing, he gave me this because he wanted to know if I could hit the high holds at the end. After a few listens, I did. Gonna be fun.
Good for you!
Sounds like work to me…but to each his own!
Nah man, not if its a passion. Just listening to this song at work right now makes me move, and wanna sing it. Let it flow. But being in a band is new territory and will for sure be work but from what I can tell, there’s no egos there at the moment, and its just for fun after all.
You’re soon going to be beating off the band groupies.
Im a catcher not a pitcher, also lead singers get all the tail in bands anyway.
As in beating off with a stick.
My mind is always in the gutter
Just a suggestion. You might want to watch some clips of the Sapranos before using the ‘ catcher/pitcher’ phrase.
I deff got them crossed up lmao
Princess Bride Auto Rec.
I 100% got them mixed up lmao. If I could delete one comment, it would be that one
LOL
Yeah, not a good moment for you
Freudian slip. I don’t know much about human anatomy and physiology but I think I know the difference between a catcher and a pitcher vis a vis boy parts and girl parts.
Freudian Slip is when you say what you mean instead of what you wanted to say right?
Correct. Kfey doth protest too much.
No egos is so key. The band I am in right now me and the other guitarist have no hesitations telling the other that we like something better done differently and we just take it as we both want what’s best and don’t really have an ego about it and get defensive.
Do you put your balls in a vice to hit those high notes?
dude sick! That’s awesome!
Very cool!
When you are on the crazy world tour will you still log in here on occasion and give us some good stories about life on the road?
I dont understand everyone’s obsession with the eclipse, they happen all the time, just not over land and even the ones that happen to sweep across the US happen and a fairly regular basis. I remember the one in 2018? 2019? That was cool to see but I didnt need to drive 3000 miles and book a hotel room for a week to watch a 5 minute eclipse. People are dumb.
Last one was in 2017. TBH seeing a total eclipse is on my bucket list. It would have been a pretty straightforward drive down to Casper to see the 2017 one but I was scheduled to work and no one would trade. Next one visible in the US is 2044 I believe – I’ll be in my 70’s so I will plan to check that one out.
This dumb fan will likely drive 600 miles and book an uber expensive hotel room to see the Vikings SB parade should it happen. So there is that.
TL;DR I’ll allow it.
Thats a fair counter point, if someone’s passionate about it I guess spend the money. I think the one in 2017 was like 90% complete eclipse so not total but close enough. It was cool looking but the best part was the very abrupt temperature drop (since it was summer) and all the birds stopped chirping, it felt a little spooky, made you feel small (which we all are). Vikings SB parade would be a must
I see Delta at least has some flight that tracks the eclipse. Not sure how it works but I assume the plane flies more or less a racetrack pattern so all the passengers can see it. One way to guarantee your view won’t be obscured by overcast.
Lincoln was in the path of totality in 2017. Wife and I watched from the rooftop of her office building at the time. Was pretty cool. Cool part was all the crickets chirping once it got dark….
Andrew Siciliano out at NFL Red Zone.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/andrew-siciliano-face-of-nfl-red-zone-and-others-out-at-nfl-network-per-report-135215102.html
Interesting. Hope they keep Scott Hanson.
white men out, DEI hires incoming
Need more woke commentators and pundits…
WTF….
We have to have a state of emergency for a solar eclipse??????
LOL, I had an employee tell me yesterday she’s going down there for the eclipse, said it was an excuse to go see some family.
How much totality is SE MN expected to have?
No clue
C’mon man. SE MT is 47%, not 46% not 48% but 47%.
The internet says 75% partial totality
So what? South Dakota declared a state of emergency once to shit can a bill the people overwhelming voted in favor of and the bill was aimed to create more transparency of how money was spent and to try and reduce corruption…They were so scared of the bill they declared a state of emergency giving them the power to just get rid of the bill. Incredible. lol
Yeah, and also the woman you call the corn field cocksucker also signed a bill to increase government transparency, I guess they’ve made progress.
She is less corrupt than some of her predecessors but that’s such a low bar and giving her props for being transparent is like saying rotten vomit smells great because it’s not rotten shit. She is a self serving snake in the grass. 0% chance she wants real transparency. I guarantee there are things in there for her and her cronies to abuse and take advantage of or she already knows the loopholes or back door work arounds. She rarely does the right thing for the right reasons.
No one was as corrupt as Janklow
A GREED!
She’s hot hot hot!
Eclipses are racist!
Well given that S.D. is about 84% white everything in the state is racist, Eclipses included.
Somebody say Eclipse?
I’d say Diggs is still good enough to be worth a 2nd round pick.
But he isn’t worth the headache for a 2nd round pick.
Well said. OBJ didn’t exactly do Mayfield any favors when he went to Cleveland despite his talent.
He’s going to fall off a cliff within the next two years, not worth it IMO
But Buffalo is on the hook for most of his 2024 salary.
I can see why Houston made the trade.
It probably won’t end well though.
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Right? I think it goes both ways. You could also say is one of the top receivers only worth a 2nd round pick? But yeah the headache part… could you imagine if their young QB hits a slump?
I remember Bills fans saying MN fans were salty about Diggs leaving and he would not be a diva in Buffalo. I guess they were wrong.
QotD: He will be a big help to Stroud, he still has really good hands and catch radius.
QOTD: Yeah. Maybe. It could go either way in my brain.
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!
Happy Thorsday.
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QotD – No. And Diggs is still a whiney diva.
Agreed
He’s a malcontent that creates drama when there’s no need for it, I’m so glad the Vikings got rid of him.