Minnesota Vikings Discussion-Monday SkolAsylum: 16 Sep 2025

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I don’t care to waste your time telling you what you already know, the Vikings offense looked like runny, steamy, dog s*** yesterday. The left tackle position was a position of major weakness the entire game, and Will Fries has appeared to struggle at times in these first two games. Darrisaw’s return will be huge, but even the backups should be able to do better than they did yesterday. J.J. McCarthy has to play better, but he wasn’t given much of a chance to succeed last night. 6 points wouldn’t have been enough to win the Twins game, let alone a football game. I’m pissed that I wasted time and money to attend that game. They need to get something figured out, because as of now, the offense has produced one decent quarter out of the eight they’ve played this year. They’ll right the ship at some point, but it hasn’t been a specacular start to the year.

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VikingPhilip
16 September 2025 7:03 am

I would prefer not to have to live yesterday over again.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  VikingPhilip
16 September 2025 7:29 am

I went to make a new post, looks like Surly is already doing so

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
16 September 2025 7:35 am

New thread up.
You can edit it if you would like some positivity.
I am still DOOM.

Wrenage
16 September 2025 6:49 am

Live in the now!

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
15 September 2025 8:56 pm

And so is the Vikings…..

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
15 September 2025 8:28 pm

Just saw the news about JJ’s ankle, UGH. Maybe Darrisaw and some other offensive lineman will be back when he returns, I hope.

No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 6:51 pm

Mayfield with two passing TD’s on his first two drives.

No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 6:22 pm

Mayfield makes some excellent throws on the drive and tosses a nice TD pass to tie the game.

No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 6:13 pm

C.J. Stroud looked really good on the opening drive for a TD against the Bucs.

I imagine Mayfield will match that on his opening possession.

freezeyface
15 September 2025 4:15 pm

i think one of the biggest reasons why i’m a bit down with the team now is that THIS YEAR was/is our window….

looking at the cap hits MULTIPLE players have next year of over 20mill hits….
THIS was/is the year. And losing games we NEED to win before we face actual hard teams….and not only losing but looking incompetent, is just a tough pill to swallow.

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 4:33 pm

For me, this is where I wanted the team to be last year to begin the season…struggling with Darnold, then struggling with JJ, ending the season with a couple of wins, say a record of 6-11. Hard to keep the pessimism from creeping in.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 4:38 pm

We simply have too much offensive talent to be playing like this.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 5:38 pm

I expected next season to be our year. This season, I figured 10 wins, Wildcard win(maybe) and then out in the divisional round.

Team still needs depth, and obviously cannot handle losing multiple starters.

JJ on the rookie deal gives the team two more seasons to replace aging vets with rookies to build the team from within.

Still, this season now officially sucks with both the injuries and how poorly JJ played while alive.

JRobert
JRobert
15 September 2025 2:51 pm

You know lot of people were doubtful about Sam. He did OK here and I think it’s fair to say better than what I have seen so far.
Have watched Wentz for years going back to Philly. He “was” pretty good. Then they seperated.
Went to Indy, played well but the knock was his attitude and about same in Washington, and has been a backup since.
If his problem of late has been attitude, KOC might fix that and we could be OK. .

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 3:00 pm

Wentz has struggled with significant injuries throughout his career, including a torn ACL and a fractured vertebra, which have affected his consistency and availability.

In addition, his performance has been inconsistent, leading to criticism regarding decision-making and accuracy. This has resulted in a decline in his starting opportunities.

Wentz has also experienced difficulties adapting to different offensive systems and has had issues with team chemistry, particularly during his time with the Colts and the Redskins.

Some coaches have concerns about his mental resilience under pressure, which can impact his gameplay and leadership on the field.

When you put that all together, he appears to be a problem child.

We need a competent pocket passer to distribute the ball to our playmakers. Someone who is a technician, not a guy who thinks he’s the star of the team.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 3:05 pm

“We need a competent pocket passer……..” Well OK, haven’t see much of that lately. Got any ideas?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 3:28 pm

None that are realistic. I would have pursued Jacoby Brissett over Wentz though.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 5:40 pm

Sam struggled when it mattered. Need to have a QB that can improvise.
I have no idea if JJ can, but he has the physical ability when not running on 1 leg.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 5:53 pm

I’m a simpleton, Sam at least looked like a competent NFL QB and we won 14 games. Or as I said above – OK. Right now just minimum ‘competent’ play would look good to me.

DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:50 pm

Play Prince and Purple Rain in the pregame.

freezeyface
15 September 2025 2:45 pm

DE Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 2:48 pm

Hi Skolly !!
Welcome back.

freezeyface
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 3:37 pm

i don’t get this, why skolly? did someone else post how he is likely out multiple weeks? or just that he’s out THIS week….

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 2:57 pm

Pretty sure they will hold him out until after the bye, and if the season looks doomed I expect another surgery.

Starting to hate this team again.

manly-purple
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 3:11 pm

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 4:01 pm

I’m struggling with bowbunch’s unbridled optimism in the offseason. It’s all his fault!

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 4:19 pm

at least JJ’s knees are fine

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 4:33 pm

Oh wait until they do the ankle mri and see a little problem with the repaired meniscus on the edge of the film

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 5:40 pm

I want to laugh at this, but since it will probably happen, you get a rec instead.

norseman1
norseman1
15 September 2025 2:40 pm

Best part of game Jet putting move on that safety/DB.

Surly Viking
Admin
15 September 2025 2:23 pm

At least the Survivor pool got easier this week.
Bengals are a lock

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:29 pm

If you take the Bengals, the Vikings might win.
You need to take one for the team Surly.

Also, put 16 points on the Bengals in the pickem.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:35 pm

Honestly, with how bad Wentz is, I think I will pick the Bengals and probably 12 points.

Team cannot run the ball. Wentz cannot throw the ball.

DOOM

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:37 pm

Still want Brosmer. Seems logical.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 2:39 pm

Brosmer will probably be playing by the 4th quarter. Either Wentz gets hurt or the Vikings are losing by 30

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:42 pm

Brosmer has the reps and looked good. He’s my pick. Having just said that means it won’t happen.

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:37 pm

Unfortunately, it’s the Bengals.
You never know what they will do either.
So it’s a bit of a coin flip.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:39 pm

It is the Bengals and even with Wentz we will beat them.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 2:45 pm

Eh.
Browning has way more recent experience than Wentz.
Colour me skeptical.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:53 pm

If KOC is a QB whisperer it’s about time he starts earning his money again.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:34 pm

If brad attends book it.

HUNViking
15 September 2025 1:52 pm

High ankle sprain for JJ? The Coming of Carson seems to be at hand!

1000016718
DE Viking
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 1:54 pm

Hmm.
@I knew it wasn’t JJ’s fault. He was injured.@

MT Viking
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 1:54 pm

LOL

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:06 pm

Haha. Yep, he was lighting it up before that!

DE Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 2:10 pm

Yep.
Fourth Quarter comeback last week, terrible this week.
It’s the injury.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:16 pm

The injury gave him so much adrenaline he overthrew Nailor by 5 yards.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 2:17 pm

Plausible…
At least if past excuses were allowed.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 5:08 pm

(I was joking)

VikingPhilip
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 1:56 pm

I went to confirm this and Google AI says it’s true so it must be true.

Is he really hurt or is the coach bailing on him already?

DE Viking
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 September 2025 1:56 pm

MT Viking
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 September 2025 2:04 pm

Paternity leave.

HUNViking
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 September 2025 2:04 pm

Excellent question. Maybe it’s just KOC taking the kid out of the spotlight, maybe JJ got dinged up on that ugly sack/fumble… we’ll never find out, I guess.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 September 2025 2:05 pm

They were taping it up between series on the sidelines last night.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 2:10 pm

Sprained ankle and a decision today. Seems a little suspicious.

HUNViking
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 2:11 pm

Agreed.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 2:15 pm

Nah… last night, in the heat of the moment, with adrenaline pumping, the athlete keeps going. Then the next day, when the aching and swelling kick in, and you can’t walk on it, things are different.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 2:29 pm

Yea, been there. And the next day is terrible. But Sunday is several days away with a great training staff.
Didn’t Rothlesberg play in a boot and couldn’t even move.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 2:47 pm

I think Roethlisberger played on a bum ankle several times in his career. Think the time you’re referring to is when he left playoff game they won against the Dolphins in a boot, and played against the Chiefs the next week.

DE Viking
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 1:58 pm

I say Brosmer…..

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:00 pm

AGREED,,,EFF IT.

HUNViking
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:03 pm

That could be fun. Or not.

DE Viking
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 2:07 pm

No worse then the first two weeks.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:15 pm

Agreed. Maybe he’s Purdy.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 2:10 pm

I bought tix for this weeks game looking forward to seeing JJ vs Burrow.
Instead it is Wentz vs Browning. I hate my life right now and want a refund already.

I do not even want to go.

This will be my last live NFL game. Never spending money on this shit again.

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:12 pm

It could be worse.
You could have bought season tickets to the Twins.

You should be able to get 75% of your money back.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:12 pm

If you didn’t have to sell your first born, it wouldn’t be so bad.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:15 pm

It’s rigged anyway. It’s about the experience with others in the stadium, undergoing the same emotions of suffering as you. THAT’S what you’re paying for. lol

DE Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 2:16 pm

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 5:58 pm

Monty Pyton Auto Rec.

HUNViking
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 2:19 pm

As rigged as any “sport”. It’s “entertainment”, after all 🤑

HUNViking
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:16 pm

This really sucks, I feel sorry you. Try to enjoy the game nevertheless, if at all possible, it’s “just” entertainment after all… maybe it will develop into a fun game, just not for the reasons we expected. Buy yeah, it does suck mightily. Any option of selling the tickets if you really couldn’t stand to attend?

Curious if I’ll get to watch Wentz or JJ taking on good ol’ Aaaaaron in Dublin… do we know how long such a high ankle sprain can linger? 🤔

MT Viking
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 3:57 pm

Months is a possibility.

HUNViking
Reply to  MT Viking
16 September 2025 12:03 am

Thanks, MT. So it’s confirmed that I’ll be watching Wentz play in Dublin…

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  HUNViking
16 September 2025 12:13 am

They say 3-4 weeks. So yes Dublin in on the table for Wentz unless our OL gets him killed as well and we are on to QB3.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 5:09 pm

do we know how long such a high ankle sprain can linger?

Depends on how mad the coach is.

MT Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 3:56 pm

Maybe you’ll get lucky and some scantily clad blonde bombshell with big bosoms will be sitting next to you.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 2:23 pm

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 2:36 pm

How long before they decide JJ needs season ending surgery again?

HUNViking
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 2:52 pm

After the bye maybe? Seems like they’ll have to keep him out for 2 to 4 weeks.

Which most likely means that I’ll get to see Wentz as well, battling it out against Rodgers.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 2:41 pm

Wentz will be our next Case Keenum, and take us all the way to the NFCCG…and then…DOOM.

HUNViking
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
15 September 2025 2:51 pm

Oh, so we get another episode of THAT playbook? Should be fun, until it isn’t. Wentz could make for a great reclamation project with KOC, probably.

norseman1
norseman1
15 September 2025 1:34 pm

LOL. JJ passer rating 37.5. If he spiked every pass attempt it’d be 39.6.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 1:36 pm

Yea I heard that this morning. Made me wonder how passer rating is calculated?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 1:38 pm

Math i don’t relly get.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 1:40 pm

What dings it the most are INT’s.

Which is why Aaron Rodgers takes zero risk because he is like the all time leader in passer rating I think.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/about/qb-rating.htm

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:03 pm

Well that, and his O-line held everyone on every play, along with getting bailed out by DPI and defensive holding calls all the time to keep drives alive.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 2:23 pm

Indirect factors to be sure, but not a direct measure when inputted into the formula.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 5:09 pm

True, but it looks way better when you have more yards and TD’s that you really shouldn’t have had the opportunity for.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 1:45 pm

The four separate calculations can be expressed in the following equations:
a=(CMP/ATT)−0.3)×5
b=(YDS/ATT)−3)×0.25
c=(TD/ATT)×20
d=2.375−(INT/ATT)×25)

ATT = Number of passing attempts
CMP = Number of completions
YDS = Passing yards
TD = Touchdown passes
INT = Interceptions
If the result of any calculation is greater than 2.375, it is set to 2.375. If the result is a negative number, it is set to zero.
Then, the above calculations are used to complete the passer rating:
Passer Rating=(a+b+c+d) / 6 ×100

Note that an INT has a factor of 25.
The highest of the four factors.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 1:52 pm

Thanks. Wonder what guru came up with that. Really have no idea how good an indicator this is.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 1:56 pm

Every INT is about a negative 15 points.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 2:07 pm

Seems excessive.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 1:37 pm

Yikes! At least he’s not as bad as Darnold or Cousins! lol

HUNViking
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 2:10 pm

LOL

MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:32 pm

One word re last night = putrid.

More words, guys I don’t normally do this as at 56 I feel I am healthy as a horse…but my PSA jumped from low 3’s last September to 25 on Friday. I wanted to wait and see what my internist said (he is on vacation, I saw the results in the patient portal), but with my wife’s boot in my ass I called a urologist friend at 4:30 and she got me in (here in Glendive) for biopsy over the lunch hour (which was painless BTW). Any positive thoughts, wishes or prayers would be appreciated. Takes about a week for results to come back.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:35 pm

Best wishes, MT. All will be well.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:36 pm

Got your back MT. I need a PSA. We are all on the same road.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:37 pm

Good luck. Isn’t there a fair amount of false reads with PSA?

MT Viking
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 1:41 pm

She felt the gland was way too small and soft to fit with a 25 PSA, wonders about subclinical prostatitis with such a rapid increase, but clearly biopsy was indicated. I felt my mortality when I saw the result and my wife asked is it bad, how bad is it? I wasn’t a doctor at that moment, just a scared guy.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:56 pm

More than likely too much sex in a short period of time. ust eat a bunch of oysters and sleep in the guest room.

MT Viking
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 2:04 pm

I was on vacation last week…hmm…

VikingPhilip
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 2:10 pm

Now you made me go check mine from my last test. My prostate has always been slightly enlarged, or at least that is what I have been told. My doctor started having me do the PSA my last two physicals. For some reason I can’t find the one from 2024, but this year’s came in at 1.06. Can there be that drastic a change from year to year? It must be some sort of outlier.

MT Viking
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 September 2025 3:59 pm

Hopefully. Certainly can happen with prostatitis…but it also can happen with aggressive cancer…so that’s why I was biting on a bullet with a probe up my butt while she took 12 samples (actually didn’t hurt at all, especially after she put some local anesthetic in, way less painful than what I remember at the dentist 40 some years ago).

VikingPhilip
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 5:11 pm

If the dentist was trying to reach your prostate, that may have been the problem.

DE Viking
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:38 pm

Big jump on the PSA.
Prayers that it is an outlier.

Mjolnir
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:48 pm

Got you on my mind sawbones…..

🔨🔨🔨

VikingPhilip
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:50 pm

Let’s hope it is just a false reading. Prayers are being said.

HUNViking
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 1:51 pm

Good luck, MT. You’ll be fine!

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
15 September 2025 2:15 pm

Hope it all works out. It sucks that you now will be thinking about that for a week.

DE Viking
15 September 2025 1:22 pm

Looks the tranny world knew something was going to happen ahead of time on Charlie Kirk.

MT Viking
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 1:29 pm

Wow. Hope they at least indict them as accessories to the murder. Even if the charges don’t stick.

JRo_42
JRo_42
15 September 2025 1:20 pm

Cousins to the Bengals?

DE Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 1:21 pm

Owner would never pay that kind of money.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 1:31 pm

Atlanta could eat part of it. They are paying all of it currently, anything they push off to Cincy is savings plus any pick they get back.

DE Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
15 September 2025 1:35 pm

But that’s my point.
Brown is too cheap to make it happen.
Just my guess.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 1:32 pm

Probably not, but they’re built to “win now” and have paid their WR’s and such accordingly. But that’s the situation the Vikings were in in the past when we first got him. It would be fun to see, though.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 2:16 pm

But that’s the situation the Vikings were in in the past when we first got him.

Rec for TRUTH !

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 1:22 pm

Maybe, guessing Kirko contract a problem.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 1:31 pm

Atlanta would have to eat some of his contract for sure, but they’re paying him to do not much right now.

HUNViking
15 September 2025 12:57 pm

Apparently, the Vikings were one of only 5 NFL teams who didn’t hold a minute of silence for Charlie Kirk? Can this be verified? I’m seeing some posts about this on bookface.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 1:03 pm

They did not. The Gjallarhorn was silent for Floyd, however.

pirateflip
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 1:11 pm

So, kinda did?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  pirateflip
15 September 2025 1:16 pm

SoCal prob nailed it, this might be the most liberal brain dead state in the country. In case people ain’t aware i’ll fight the left till the day i tip over.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 1:18 pm

Is it worse than California?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 1:21 pm

Ooh…not sure. Cal may beat us in the power rankings on that one. Close one.

JacksonVike
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 1:22 pm

At least Cali comes up with it’s own ideas, as stupid as they may be. Minne just follows Cali blindly.

pirateflip
Reply to  pirateflip
15 September 2025 1:25 pm

whoops, miss read, didn’t see the Floyd part. This State is really messed up.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 1:10 pm

In Tampon Tims Minn they have to conform to the Woke/Left or risk not being invited to the best parties Drag Queen Story Hour.

pirateflip
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
15 September 2025 1:14 pm

rec for comment, not story hour…

manly-purple
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 1:11 pm

Decision related to the already-planned festivities for Jared Allen?

norseman1
norseman1
15 September 2025 12:29 pm

Boy, did Arodg go off on post game. Good watch, check it out.

norseman1
norseman1
15 September 2025 12:20 pm

Burrow out for foreseeable future, maybe season. Almost feel worse for Bengal fans. Grade 3 turf toe or something whatever that is.

norseman1
norseman1
15 September 2025 11:53 am

NFLN is playing the Falcons@Vikings game at 1:00 CST for you guys that missed a great game.

MT Viking
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 1:46 pm

LOL

norseman1
norseman1
15 September 2025 11:28 am

The O sucks. 6 sacks? the D sucks. Other than that we should be fine. Where’s Darrisaw? Life support? We get a new center who has had issues with concussions and in game 2 guess what? We have a shot at last in the North.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 11:29 am

Well, we might beat Chicago, but I would put a lot of money on GB and DET being ahead of us come January.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 11:50 am

It sucks knowing that ftp and the eagles and probably even Detroit are way better than the purple right now.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
15 September 2025 11:52 am

The others are “playing” better right now not necessarily better teams – well maybe the Eagles are. We just need to get back to our game.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 11:35 am

It’s early. Lots of talent on team and also lots of time to get things worked out.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 11:42 am

What we should look for is improvement, from game to game. I’m going to go on record right now, and say I think McCarthy will play better next week.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 11:48 am

I would expect so too. While the Bears and the Falcons aren’t great defenses, think the Bengals are worse.
That said, I still think KOC needs to get back to coaching the game to take advantage of our talent and forget some that we have a rookie QB.
Forget it and coach just like he had Cousins or Darnold out there.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 2:00 pm

Well, unfortunately he can’t do that. Things that are instinctual for Cousins and even Darnold right now, McCarthy has to think through. Things they would see and immediately act on, he has to work out mentally. So he he really has to accept that he doesn’t have a Cousins or a Darnold. He has a guy with two NFL games under his belt, and years of development ahead of him.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 2:05 pm

Probably should have played him a bit more in preseason, IMO.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 2:10 pm

Yeah… Sean McVay (KOC’s mentor) doesn’t like risking his starters in preseason, and KOC follows this model.

I think playing a young QB in the preseason though is helpful.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 5:10 pm

Yeah, it’s understandable for risk, but IMO you have to get some real game reps or you look like this.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  norseman1
15 September 2025 11:36 am

The team isn’t off to a great start, and yes, it may be a year of transition and learning. In KOC’s first years, he had a QB who was a seasoned vet, who could run an NFL offense competently and then another vet, who was a lot more talented than folks gave him credit for. Now, it’s a different game. For the first time, KOC has a QB with no experience.

Thielen says he and the whole team believe in McCarthy.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
15 September 2025 10:17 am

So, what a horseshit showing last night. I like KOC, but he deserves a lot of the blame today. He is doing JJ no favors with those long developing routes that he keeps calling. JJ will keep getting killed back there if something doesn’t change. Enough with the 5 step drops every damn time. I can’t recall any sweep plays being called against that fierce pass rush last night. C’mon Kevin, you need to adjust your play calling.

DE Viking
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
15 September 2025 10:56 am

Yep.
Got to change it up if it isn’t working.
But KOC can be pretty stubborn in that regard.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 10:56 am

No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 10:15 am

“This is going to be a process for our team,” coach Kevin O’Connell said. “Our young quarterback is going to make some plays. He’s going to make some unbelievable throws. … And then, other times, he’s going to have an attempt and just miss something a little long, and we will go back and try to fix it. Sometimes, the fundamentals are going to be right, the technique is going to be right, but he’s learning on the fly right now. The way you overcome that is by the full group’s execution level being to a certain standard that we can go try to compete and win with.”

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 11:34 am

Does that “process” involve not running the ball from the 1-yd line or not going for 4th-and-1 when down 2 scores in the 4th after trying a long bomb on 3rd down? KOC is very dumb at times.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 11:39 am

I don’t think KOC has ever had a QB starting his very first games ever, under him. He has always had QB’s with some game experience. Might be a factor, might not.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 12:53 pm

KOC has been making dumb calls like that the past 3 years. I don’t think it has much to do with those instances above I mentioned. Trying to be “unpredictable” and just need to run for a yard in some way, shape, or form. Should be easy enough, but for the Vikings, for whatever reason, it isn’t. Most other teams can just exert their will and get that yard whenever they want. For some reason, we can’t or don’t even try.

DE Viking
15 September 2025 10:06 am

LOL…
They only scored 6.
6-2 final????

Sure…..

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 10:10 am

Looking for a bounceback, and playing at home, Bengals without their starting QB.

I guess…

NoDakRube
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 10:15 am

Didn’t browning beat us before when he had to step in for Burrow? He is no slouch

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
15 September 2025 10:18 am

Yes.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  NoDakRube
15 September 2025 10:21 am

Browning will sling it all over the field with those receivers he has, which will be a problem for our secondary. He will also throw interceptions, so we’ll have to take advantage of his mistakes.

JacksonVike
15 September 2025 9:45 am
SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
15 September 2025 10:09 am

We wish.
Technically they could if it was bad enough I think.
And as bad as it is it has not reached that point yet.

No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 9:29 am

Thielen says he’s got full confidence that McCarthy will learn and improve quickly.
“He’s built for that,” Thielen said. “I think that’s why they fell in love with him in the draft process and why we all are so confident in him — because he’s legitimately built for that. So it’s going to be a process as a team, like it is every year.”

Thielen is good with the press. He said similar things about Bryce Young.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 9:36 am

Did our offense look ready to play this week or last? This is on coaching more than QB play.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 9:42 am

Or at least coaching that doesn’t help out our young QB much.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 9:49 am

When a QB doesn’t know where to go with the ball, they take off running, or make bad throws. So far, that’s the M.O. of our QB. McCarthy was ineffective at his position last night, and in the first game too for the most part.

I will grant the rest of the offense didn’t play very well.

McCarthy has thrown the ball 20 times in his first game, and 21 times last night. KOC isn’t putting the ball in his hands and letting him lead the offense, till they’re way behind in the 4th quarter. Why?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 9:56 am

And that’s the problem. He certainly had no problem in putting the ball in Nick Mullins hands. Open the offense and let this kid play, and learn. If he throws three TD’s and three INT’s so be it – at least we score more than. six points and the kid can learn from mistakes.
He won’t learn by protecting him. This isn’t Michigan and if he is going to be a top notch QB, he has to learn.
We do have a 40 mil WR and a 20 mil TE as well as many other assets.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 9:59 am

And Thielen…

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 10:21 am

This is on coaching more than QB play.

The one thing I have learned on this site is you can’t make excuses for the QB..It is always the QBs fault. Good and Great QBs elevate their team beyond their circumstances – its of course bullshit, but that is what I have learned on this site.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
15 September 2025 10:57 am

What I have learned on this site, is that the QB is NEVER to blame.
It’s a team game and is always not the QB’s fault.

Of course, that’s bullshit, but it is what I have learned from some on this site.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 10:59 am

That’s a lie… no one has ever professed that, ever, on this site .

benjammin
Admin
15 September 2025 9:11 am

That game sucked

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
15 September 2025 9:17 am

Agreed.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
15 September 2025 9:04 am

Frustrating game to watch.
Injuries, poor O-line play, rookie QB made rookie QB mistakes, some bad play calling and zero adjustments. Lots to work on and fix.
At least the Defense showed up, not dominating but fighting hard until they wore out. Looks like we catch a break next week with their QB injury. Well that is until we get shredded by the back-up.

Oh and FTP!

No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 8:53 am

McCarthy needs a little more help with play calling IMO. Also, we had a third string guy playing left tackle in front of him, and honestly O’Neill didn’t have a good night either.

If you really want to understand the difference in the game last night, it was this. The Falcons ran the ball for 218 yards, and we tallied 78 yards rushing. Penix simply handed the ball off to his RB’s and they got yards.

freezeyface
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 9:00 am

for a “depleted” offensive line that i was reading about, for atlanta, they sure MOVED our Dline back multiple yards before any contact with the running back was had.
very disappointing it looks like our RB’s have to adjust and juke almost at the line of scrimmage on alot of runs and the falcons MAN HANDLED our “vaunted Dline”

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 9:07 am

Would help if pace could tackle as well

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
15 September 2025 9:30 am

ooof SO MANY MISSED TACKLES

pace and metellus

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 9:07 am

We’ve been playing with a crappy oline for years ( remember out last set of guards and center). And we haven’t been a great running team for a while.
For some reason KOC doesn’t seem to be “calling” the game like he usually does. Offense ust loks out of synch.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
15 September 2025 9:43 am

I am starting to believe that the line issues are not fully on the players. Maybe our Oline coaches suck.

Actually I am not just starting to believe it, I have been saying it for a few years now, going back to Zimmer.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JacksonVike
15 September 2025 10:32 am

I agree. Other teams seem to get serviceable play from backups, we can’t even get that from our starters.

JacksonVike
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 9:42 am

McCarthy needs a little more help with play calling IMO

I have been saying this since he got here. He needs to let his offensive coordinator call the plays and he needs to be a head coach. How many times did JJ come off the field and KOC spent 5-10 minutes talking to him. That is not his job that is the job of the OC and QB coach. If you don’t have faith in your coordinators than get coordinators you do have confidence in.

freezeyface
15 September 2025 8:44 am

another observation from being at the game, there are some delusional fans who actually think if they don’t scream for EVERY PORTION of the game, they are letting the team down and are not helping the team in any way.

freezeyface
15 September 2025 8:32 am

i’m glad i went to the game last night, to remind me why i don’t like going to Vikings games.

does JJ have small hands? he’s fumbling and bumbling the ball like crazy.
goodness does he have a penchant to either over throw or under throw the ball.

our oline sucks.
our play calling sucks.
currently, our QB sucks.

not much to be happy for, at the moment.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 8:34 am

He does have small hands. I saw the same thing.
could be another Culpepper issue.

freezeyface
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 8:39 am

i couldn’t see what happened on that 4th down play (which shouldn’t have been run to begin with WHAT THE HECK), but then i heard he fumbled the snap.

he’s….AS OF NOW, in over his head

VikingPhilip
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 8:36 am

It seems like all of our passing plays are long developing ones, or JJ is having trouble going through his reads or something. Why don’t we have some short passing plays in the playbook? Some that JJ can just take a 2 step drop back and get rid of it, especially when we have a backup and a backup to a backup on the O line.

freezeyface
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 September 2025 8:38 am

the falcons killed us on slants. i don’t think i have ever seen us run a slant once in 2 years.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 8:44 am

Those easy 4yd catches don’t exist to KOC.

Wrenage
Reply to  freezeyface
15 September 2025 8:38 am

Did you see my friend Mike at the game? He was wearing a Vikings jersey.

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
15 September 2025 8:39 am

THAT WAS YOUR FRIEND?!?!?!

JRo_42
JRo_42
15 September 2025 8:21 am

I’m pre-ordering Vikings SB shirts. Who wants one?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 8:26 am

Laughing

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 8:31 am

for 2029?

VikingPhilip
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 8:31 am

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NoDakRube
15 September 2025 7:59 am

Very disappointed in the Oline last night, especially at the start of the game. We are down a Tackle but for the rest of the group to struggle so much surprised me – I was expecting the Vikes to be able to run the ball.

JJ wasn’t good either. He needs to play much better.

My nephew is a Falcon’s fan – he was pointing out that JJ is 3 years younger than Penis – point is we need to be a bit patient with the young man before we write him off. The truth is we have no idea if he is going to be good or not.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  NoDakRube
15 September 2025 8:26 am

I have a feeling there will be a lot of growing pains with JJ. Hopefully he will grow fast.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  NoDakRube
15 September 2025 8:32 am

I give him three seasons. That was ugly last night. Missing wide open Nailor in the 4th was bad. He can improve. The pains of a rookie contract are offset by the money saved.

Except, the o line still sucks……

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 9:19 am

He’s in his second season. It shouldn’t take three more to show he can run an NFL offense effectively. In his first two games, he’s not shown me much in that regard. He’s shown he’s athletic and can make some big throws at times. That ain’t gonna cut it in the end.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 10:55 am

I agree. I am counting this(season2) year and next as three seasons.
He should have this figured out, or at least be showing consistent improvement or time to try again.
I expect he will improve throughout this season, and I expect him to play better in December than he is now.
I also would expect significant improvement next season as well.

I have not written him off. If, after three seasons, he is not getting it done, you save money by not overpaying after the rookie deal, and try to find a long term QB.

I think he will be fine. Just not there yet.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 September 2025 11:28 am

The jury is out. A year of studying the offense, attending QB meetings, and game plan reviews, then lots of training camp practices, don’t actually measure up to game reps. They just don’t. McCarthy has shown he’s just the same as any young QB though. He’s not all that special… yet. He’s not yet a guy who can beat teams with his brain. He’s a good athlete, who can throw a ball.

Time will tell if he is anything other than that.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
15 September 2025 11:30 am

I don’t even know about the “throw a ball” part. Some of his passes were atrocious yesterday.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 11:47 am

Yep, he seems to throw a flat, or line drive ball too often. Needs to work on his touch. It looks to me like he kinda looks awkward when he throws sometimes. Footwork maybe?

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
15 September 2025 12:48 pm

Yeah, accuracy for some short routes has been off. Maybe.

manly-purple
15 September 2025 7:55 am

JJ is getting the blame. He needs to play better for sure, but I blame KOC and his awful gameplans.

Almost every other team can move the ball down the field a bit, but both games have started terribly. JJ had no time on most of his drop backs last night. Maybe do a play action roll out? Maybe ditch the long-developing crossing routes (which is something I say every week)?

And why are we the only team on the planet that refuses to throw quick slants???

manly-purple
Reply to  manly-purple
15 September 2025 7:58 am

Oh, and stop getting cute with running plays. Just run the ball down their throat with Mason. Man up.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  manly-purple
15 September 2025 8:20 am

Yeah, esp. from the 1 yard line! Why can’t we score from there like every other team routinely does.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  manly-purple
15 September 2025 8:25 am

KOC made some dumb calls yesterday, which is why I don’t think he’s as good of a coach as most others. His blunders undo some of the good things about him.

Regarding JJ…. That was some of the worst football I’ve ever watched. It’s going to be hard to watch more games this year if that play continues. I just hope he’s learning and improving week to week in some way.

manly-purple
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 8:48 am

I don’t think he’s as good of a coach as most others. His blunders undo some of the good things about him.

Correct. He’s a good dude, and I’m sure the players love him. But he is not the offensive genius people say he is.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JRo_42
15 September 2025 9:10 am

I thin he is a good coach. But for some reason he is not play calling like he has in the past. Not sure what he is trying to do.

FloridaSKOL
15 September 2025 7:28 am

HUNViking
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
15 September 2025 8:37 am

JacksonVike
15 September 2025 6:55 am

That game last night was ugly. It is to be expected to have good and bad games this year, so I am not to upset about it. Can’t wait for Darrisaw to get back and hopefully Kelly’s concussion isn’t too bad and is back for Sunday.

Jurgens did a fair job, when he came in, but our back up tackles are not ready to play.

Wrenage
15 September 2025 6:08 am

I went to bed at the half cuz I need to take wifey to doctor appointments today. Maybe Vikes should come with. They need medical intervention!

JJ does not seem to have much touch when he has time to throw. The ball is coming at 60 mph so you better be ready.

Surly Viking
Admin
15 September 2025 6:07 am

Rough night. O Line is in shambles, defense finally got tired. JJ played very poorly while running for his life. I expect some more injuries to be announced today. I was surprised he got up after the sack/fumble the way his knee bent.

Team is showing why the over/under is 8 wins after 14 last season.

HUNViking
15 September 2025 5:13 am

That wasn’t pretty yesterday, to put it mildly. A ton of injuries don’t help, of course, but the offense, including JJ, looked abysmal. That overthrow was especially bad.

KOC has his work cut out for him, defense did quite OK, mostly. On to the Burrow-less Bengals, then.

NoDakRube
Reply to  HUNViking
15 September 2025 7:38 am

During training camp we heard several times that he needs to put air under the ball, that long miss was a case in point.

DE Viking
15 September 2025 4:17 am

JJ does not look good.
Looks like a long season ahead of us.
To be expected with a first year starter. Also injuries.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  DE Viking
15 September 2025 8:30 am

Last night they said multiple times how bad Marino and Aikman looked their first year as starters. Hopefully JJ is one of those and not one of the many that never recovered from a bad first year.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 September 2025 9:04 am

Peyton threw 28 interceptions his rookie year.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
15 September 2025 9:05 am

JJ three zero

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
15 September 2025 9:43 am

This isn’t his rookie year. He’s in his second year.

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