Minnesota Vikings Discussion-THORSDAY SkolAsylum: 16 Oct 2025

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Looks like I was wrong(Again) yesterday with my prognostication. Carson Wentz was a full participant and JJ was limited in practice. From what Coach has said repeatedly (That JJ would need a full week of practice with the 1s) it would seem that Wentz is the man this Sunday. I did say, that I am good with whatever the team decides. While I really want to see JJ play, I want him to survive and he should be fully healthy prior to playing.

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VikingPhilip
16 October 2025 10:24 pm

Watch the kicker screw this up

VikingPhilip
Reply to  VikingPhilip
16 October 2025 10:25 pm

I guess not

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
16 October 2025 10:39 pm

Glad he didn’t or that The Douche didn’t get the Sealers in FG range in the last 2 min.
33-31 Bungles.

HUNViking
Reply to  VikingPhilip
16 October 2025 10:45 pm

Didn’t age well, thankfully 😄

HUNViking
16 October 2025 10:07 pm

Bengals up 30-24 with the ball and roughly 5 minutes to go. Might just pull off the upset.

Edit: Flacco is a f*cking machine. Love the guy.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  HUNViking
16 October 2025 10:40 pm

He out played The Douche so he is The Man tonight.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:49 pm

FG, Bungles up 17-10 at the half.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:46 pm

Have no idea how that pass to Ja’ Marr was ruled incomplete.
One foot down, 2nd foot dragged inbounds, no bobble.

Gone fishin'
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:47 pm

I don’t agree with that one, either.

Some terrible PI calls on the Steelers, too. Mafia needs this one to stay under the spread.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
16 October 2025 8:50 pm

Or they want to keep it close/interesting so the viewers keep watching the commercials.

Gone fishin'
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:59 pm

Entirely possible.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:39 pm

Bungles had that Int by the time the players landed on the field.
What will the Officials call? Pro Douche?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:40 pm

Took it away from Medcalf, The Douche looks pissed. LOL

Gone fishin'
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:45 pm

I picked up Rodgers on my FF team this year because my QB is on a bye. These interceptions aren’t helping my score any.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
16 October 2025 8:46 pm

‘this year’ or this week?

Gone fishin'
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:48 pm

Oh, this week. I’m not getting rid of Josh Allen.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
16 October 2025 8:51 pm

Didn’t know if your format had a backup QB spot.

Gone fishin'
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 8:58 pm

We have 5 bench players. I didn’t have a backup QB, I just pick one up when I need one instead of taking up a permanant roster spot.

VikingPhilip
16 October 2025 8:26 pm

Wow, that changed fast

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
16 October 2025 8:31 pm

14-10 Bungles with Pitt driving just before the half.

Gone fishin'
Admin
16 October 2025 8:00 pm

This Bengals defense is shitty.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 7:47 pm

Two 40 year old QBs going at it in Cinncy. The Douche is actually 41 now.
Bungles continue their tradition of drops and penalties so far.

Gone fishin'
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 7:58 pm

It’s been bad, good passes bounce right off their hands.I’ve seen at least three easy drops.

Gone fishin'
Admin
16 October 2025 7:47 pm

Flacco’s receivers are doing him zero favors tonight. Hard enough to beat the Steelers defense without having guys dropping easy catches.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 7:08 pm

So Kansas U accused Texas Tech of throwing a pocketknife at their sidelines along with their traditional tortillas last Sat.
Only video shows that the pocketknife was dropped on the sidelines by the Kansas Assistant Coach, oops.

So Texas Tech wins the game by 25 points and the postgame allegations by even more.

https://www.outkick.com/sports/kansas-pocket-knife-video-texas-tech-fined

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 6:35 pm

I can’t believe anyone ever bought this shit. Fear mongering to garner more tax dollars, to apply to things he was invested in.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 6:40 pm

John Kerry is, and always has been a douche.
Right up there with Al Gore, @even if he did invent the internet@.

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 6:21 pm

Official injury report.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 6:25 pm

CD, DNP, Not Injury Related?

Hope he gets whatever situation it is cleared up in time to suit up.
Rest is good. I assume that his knee is tired.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 6:36 pm

He is still working his way back. Rest is good. He’ll be on a pitch count again Sunday. One day at a time, one step at a time.

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 6:16 pm

Latest on practice today…

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 5:53 pm

Pittsburgh vs Cinncy tonight.
I hope for a Bungels win myself.
The Douche is already too full of himself this year.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 6:17 pm

I might throw it on in the background.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 5:50 pm
Gone fishin'
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 7:58 pm

The Twins always hire some ex-player to be manager instead of hiring the best person for the job.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
16 October 2025 8:42 pm

Rocko was an ex-player??

Gone fishin'
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 9:02 pm

Not sure. I’m a Braves fan. I assumed he was.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
16 October 2025 9:04 pm

Yeah,
Wiki says Boston and Tampa Bay.

bowbunch
Admin
16 October 2025 3:57 pm

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
16 October 2025 4:00 pm

I’m telling you… nothing surprises me anymore.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
16 October 2025 4:03 pm

That lard ass needs to get back to Springfield and read a few books about Lincoln.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
16 October 2025 4:09 pm

Its Trumps fault.
They are just hiring ‘neighbors’.

MT Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
16 October 2025 4:20 pm

How…is that possible? WTH?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  MT Viking
16 October 2025 4:25 pm

Same way we had a “closed Border” last four years.

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 2:59 pm

Good news?

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 2:14 pm

This makes me sick. Propagating and celebrating mentally disturbed people.

freezeyface
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 3:00 pm

they stand against bullying, but if you don’t bow down to the LGBTQUEIRIWIWEIR community, you get bullied….

funny how that is

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 3:56 pm

Not funny to me. I’m good with punching people in the mouth who tell me I’m insensitive if I don’t heap praise on these people.

SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 3:09 pm

Close to bagging the NFL and I am a life long Vikes fan.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SkolfromMT
16 October 2025 3:56 pm

Same

MT Viking
Reply to  SkolfromMT
16 October 2025 4:19 pm

I’m with you on this. It’s getting close to the point that I can’t justify watching, either to myself or my family. At least the NHL hasn’t gone completely bonkers, yet.

SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
Reply to  MT Viking
16 October 2025 4:58 pm

Ya, NHL quit the silly pride stick tape and jerseys. I’ve “justified” it for years on the NFL by boycotting their advertisers. “Ya, that’ll show ’em.”

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  SkolfromMT
16 October 2025 4:36 pm

I have already started to back off from the NFL.
Will not spend any money on it, watching it on broadcast TV is all they get from me.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SkolfromMT
16 October 2025 4:40 pm

If I could give up Budweiser after 40 years, I can give up the NFL. And i”m really starting to get pissed about all those “streaming” games that I don’t have. Guess the NFL is already starting to ween me off.

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 3:41 pm

Cant we stand with ALL children to take a stand against bullying?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 4:08 pm

This makes little sense to me. Football is a business, a pretty big one.
When I was in business, we were very careful with our marketing, PR work and donations, to ensure we had a very non political position. Half of our customers were blue and half were red. Why turn off half your customers.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 4:26 pm

Getting to be more than half now.

SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 4:59 pm

Like Trump before he got into politics, “I give to both parties, its good for business.”

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:58 pm

More theories…

MT Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 1:36 pm

Yup, I can’t imagine JJ is going to be ready the week after that, or the week after that, or maybe even the week after that.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  MT Viking
16 October 2025 1:41 pm

He’ll be 100% about the time Wentz starts playing poorly.

MT Viking
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 1:59 pm

I’m sure he’ll be just perfect to start in Detroit week 9. We’ll be halfway through his second season and he’ll have played in two games. Sigh.

JacksonVike
Reply to  MT Viking
16 October 2025 2:52 pm

If I were a betting man, I would bet JJ will be ready for the Chargers game in 1 week.

Northwoods
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 2:37 pm

Last year JJ came down with an injury that nobody can pinpoint when it occurred, paving the way for Darnold to play.

And this year, after not playing very well, he came down with an injury that nobody can pinpoint when it occurred, paving the way for Wentz to play.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Northwoods
16 October 2025 2:39 pm

Hmmmmmmm…

JacksonVike
Reply to  Northwoods
16 October 2025 2:47 pm

This years injury occurred when the Falcons defensive lineman rolled up his leg, in the 3rd quarter. He was clearly hobbling after that, but adrenaline can prevent you from noticing how bad it is until the next day.

Northwoods
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 3:17 pm

Your facts totally undermine my point.

MT Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 4:23 pm

Nonetheless, the rumor mills are hard at work, we were told 2-4 weeks rehab, he was jetted off to the UK…now getting additional opinions…misdiagnosis? Would he have benefitted from not running through airport with a fully loaded bag of American snacks to catch his flight, and instead rehabbing at the TC facility?

(I realize the latter is just my flight of fancy).

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:56 pm

Laughing… some guy named Justin Jefferson just started following me on Twitter.

DE Viking
16 October 2025 12:20 pm

Anybody every use the Bank of Tioga in the ND area?

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
16 October 2025 12:21 pm

No. Why? are you thinking of robbing it?

freezeyface
Reply to  NoDakRube
16 October 2025 12:55 pm

this made me chuckle

speaking of robbing banks, one of my favorite movies is hell or high water

DE Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 1:23 pm

Did you like Tower Heist?

freezeyface
Reply to  DE Viking
16 October 2025 3:00 pm

i don’t think i’ve heard of it.

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 1:39 pm

Great movie

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 1:40 pm

The Town was pretty solid too.

freezeyface
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 3:03 pm

yeah that was a good one for sure.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
16 October 2025 1:23 pm

Maybe.
I’ve gotta do my intel first.

Mjolnir
16 October 2025 11:13 am

Back to the Mutterland……

Heading up North tomorrow morning. Departing tiny Waco, Ne @ the asscrack of dawn and shooting north up 77 through the Winnebago Rez, 77 turning into 75, turning into 60 all the way to Worthington – or ‘Roundabout Worthington’ as my father says, every time. Because. Of. The. Roundabouts. Get it? I f****ng hope so…..

Worthington we hit Runnings – the most amazing store, ever. Well, I’m a fan at least. Then back to the highway and thru the little towns of Brewster, Heron Lake – where my Grandfather was raised – and Wilder. As a kid reading the names of these towns would bring excitement as I was that much closer to grandma’s house, to family….. that much closer to my beloved Vikings.

Weekend will be spent in the Windom/St. James/Jackson areas. Watching my Cornhuskers take on the Gophers in friendly, yet enemy territory. Frying fish, talking ish, playing cards and recounting stories of cousin fistfights and fishhooks in eyes……

Back on the road before that rooster crows Sunday morn, hot coffee in hand and NFL pregame on the radio on the way back – always a nice, easy drive with very little traffic. I’ll be in my easy chair ready to watch Minny beat Philly with time to spare.

Oh….. and we beat Philly this weekend. Don’t ask me why I think that, I just do.

JJ/Wentz – don’t care, doesn’t matter. We’ll still beat Philly.

Enjoy your weekend errbuddy…..

Wrenage
Reply to  Mjolnir
16 October 2025 11:27 am

That is my neck of the woods.

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
16 October 2025 11:32 am

thats in my kneeish to shin of the woods

JacksonVike
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 12:48 pm

Have you moved to the new house yet?

freezeyface
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 12:51 pm

not yet. but my house sold the first day it hit the market which is good news.

the home i’m purchasing is having a brand new septic system installed, i cant move in until it’s complete and the county has given the thumbs up. i’m guessing i’ll’ have a closing date around Nov 14. And we’ll close on the house we are in now a week later.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 12:53 pm

Do they have to put in a mound or are you lucky enough to have an in ground?

freezeyface
Reply to  bowbunch
16 October 2025 12:55 pm

it has to be a mound system. All of Washington County requires a mound system when the regular system goes bad.

thankfully i worked with the homeowner and was able to put it in a spot that wasn’t going to be RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of eveything. it’s towards the back and off to the side.

sledding hill for the kids

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 12:58 pm

Fun. That was my summer job in high school. Worst case scenario it should only be about 4 or 5 feet tall unless the rules have changed a bunch.

freezeyface
Reply to  bowbunch
16 October 2025 1:03 pm

4 feet at the highest point which isn’t too bad.

and i’m happy to come into a home with a brand new septic i didn’t have to spend a dime on

JacksonVike
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 1:09 pm

I was just going to ask if you had to pay for it. I believe that was a sticking point when you were first thinking about buying it.

freezeyface
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 3:02 pm

yep correct. the homeowner wanted to split the cost at first

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 1:35 pm

High water table in Minnersoda. Not something we have to worry about here in the high desert.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
16 October 2025 3:26 pm

Combined with clay heavy soils.

JacksonVike
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 1:10 pm

but my house sold the first day it hit the market which is good news.

Should have asked for more$$$$$

freezeyface
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 3:02 pm

the first offer we got was WAY above asking.

and it was a family we were really excited to sell to (similar values and beliefs as us, first time home buyers, great family)

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 1:51 pm

Are you leaving the suspension rig in the master bedroom?

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
16 October 2025 3:01 pm

racist, you can’t call it master bedroom…

also no comment

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 3:58 pm

Yeah… the real estate market started that crap about 10 years ago. Owners suite is the politically correct term. I never bought into the guilt trip BS though.

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
16 October 2025 4:24 pm

Oh, I’m the master of my bedroom you better believe it…as long as it is just the dog and I in there.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Wrenage
16 October 2025 12:15 pm

I know….

Every time I get up in that area I look for tall, wordy, metal-ballad loving runner types who look like they’ve been enveloped in corn a fair share of their days……

Still don’t think we’ve met.

Never goes the way you think when you walk up to strangers and say “I’m hammer from the internet…..”

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Mjolnir
16 October 2025 12:33 pm

Reading all those names of cities I was wondering what country. And I’ve spent a fair amount of time in WVA.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Mjolnir
16 October 2025 12:26 pm

That is some post there Mjolnir

JacksonVike
Reply to  Mjolnir
16 October 2025 12:39 pm

Don’t honk when you drive by, I may shoot.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Mjolnir
16 October 2025 12:47 pm

Jackson had PJ Fleck at their varsity game last Thursday. He came to watch his new TE for next year.

Mjolnir
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 2:08 pm

Heard that – my Uncle mentioned it. I still here stories of Mike Nesseth every time I go back.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Mjolnir
16 October 2025 2:18 pm

Got to watch him pitch in an amateur game. It was different than any other pitcher.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  Mjolnir
16 October 2025 1:26 pm

Sounds like a good time. Safe travels and go gophers!

DE Viking
16 October 2025 11:10 am

If a Judge can stop the firing of government employees or stop spending cuts, can a judge stop the hiring of government employees or increase spending from the bench?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
16 October 2025 11:14 am

As I mentioned yesterday, I cannot see how this Judge’s ruling is “legal.”

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 12:13 pm

It’s not.
I’m just thinking the opposite.

When a democrat is back in office and they hire new employees, a republican should sue in a conservative friendly area and have the judge stop the hiring.
Then watch liberal heads explode.

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 10:17 am

These types of charts are interesting to me, but the “time to throw” data point is always a point of contention. Still, interesting to look at.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 10:25 am

I can hardly read this. That aside, what does it mean?
Make sense of it for me (if you would).

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 10:54 am

You have to click on the image to bring it up in X, then click on it again to make it full screen so you can read it. Sorry.

Fundamentally it shows on the vertical axis the average depth of target each QB is achieving with each throw. Both Russell Wilson and Jackson Dart have the deepest average on their throws, so the Giants like throwing the ball down the field. Darnold and Stafford throw the ball deeper on average too, along with Lamar Jackson. Interestingly Stafford and Darnold also get rid of the ball quicker than most.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 11:13 am

So Wentz’s time to throw is less than average and depth of throw is about average? Still have no idea if that’s good or not.
Also, if I’m hearing you correctly, Stafford is throwing deeper but in a shorter amount of time. Not sure how this can be as he’s receivers aren’t any faster than ours getting down the field.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 11:15 am

The Vikings stats contain both Wentzs and JJs (QB) throws.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 11:17 am

OK if it’s both – then same question for both Wentz and JJ?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 11:38 am

The fact that the two QBs are combine into one stats pretty much eliminates ‘Time to Throw’ as a useful stat.
The Average Depth of might have some validity as it is influenced by scheme and play calling.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 12:30 pm

I don’t think that’s right SoCal. The label says Carson Wentz, not McCarthy/Wentz.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:37 pm

Thought it meant Vikings.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 12:40 pm

Yeah, but only Carson.

JacksonVike
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:42 pm

Yes, at the top it says min. 100 passes. So, JJ wouldn’t qualify, nor should he ever.

MT Viking
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 12:14 pm

Maybe he skylights the ball like a punt.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 12:32 pm

So Wentz get rid of the ball quicker than average, even though he’s not throwing short a lot. That’s good.

Darnold and Stafford are clearly seeing the the defense and know where to go with the ball, thus throwing deeper more quickly. They see the windows and holes, and get the ball there. That is high level play.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:35 pm

But you can’t throw deep any faster than the receivers have the ability to get deep. Deeper throws require time – it’s science.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 12:39 pm

This graph show the average depth of throw for these guys is 9 yards. Obviously they throw a few over that, and a few under that. I can throw a ball 15 yards in 2 seconds, for sure (or could back in the day). These guys throw the ball 45 to 50 mph. The ball gets there quick. Even slow receivers can cover 12 yards in 2 seconds too.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:45 pm

Well I don’t consider 9 yards as deep. It’s not even intermediate.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 12:49 pm

It’s closer to 6.5 yards per throw. Lights out must watch football.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 1:05 pm

So when you look at any chart of where a QB threw the ball after the game, you will note most throw the ball less than 7 yards down the field for the most part. This includes lots of throws at, or behind the line of scrimmage. Most QB’s make around 5 throws over 10 yards out of 25 on average in the NFL.

Having an “average” depth of target beyond 8 yards in the NFL is pretty impressive.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 1:35 pm

Well, this is not a Cousin kudo but something I remember seeing a couple of years ago – maybe 20 or 21.
Said Mahomes lead the league in throws of 20 plus air yards beyond LOC. But Cousins was second, and 3000 of his 4300 yards that year had been air balls of 20 plus yards.
What struck me as strange at that time was some said Cousins held the ball too long. others we had a crappy line, yet the results were pretty damn good.
So overall, wonder about usefullness of this chart.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
16 October 2025 12:40 pm

If you throw it anticipating the receiver to get to the open spot, you can throw it quicker than if you wait until the receiver is open.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 12:41 pm

This is true. Faster processors see it and throw it quicker.

JacksonVike
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:45 pm

When my kid was in youth football, he had a Varsity level coach. His kid was the QB, obviously. But, he never taught him to throw it to a receiver, he was taught to read the defense and throw to an area. It was the Receivers responsibility to get to the ball.

We had one of the most dominant passing games at the youth level, I have ever seen.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 1:09 pm

I threw that way my senior year in college. I had so many incompletions, I wanted to just spit. I’d drop back, the receiver was running a 7 yard in, and I’d throw it. Then he ran a 10 yard route, instead of 7. Really made me mad.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 10:31 am

Since we have had Two QBs splitting time so far this season I am not how useful composite stats are on the ‘Team QB’.

KFEY93
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 10:53 am

Time to throw and time until release have been getting thrown around interchangeably this season and its skewing a lot of things.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  KFEY93
16 October 2025 10:58 am

Yes, it’s a data point I don’t take seriously. Time to throw is the amount of time from when the QB takes the snap, to when he throws the ball. That data point is skewed though if you’re taking the snap under center then dropping back, or taking the snap in shotgun. Also if you run play action, then that time gets skewed. So, I am not sold on it as a “standard” or a viable metric.

KFEY93
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 11:11 am

Yeah, Football is going the way of baseball with tracking EVERYTHING to the point its becoming redundant.

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 10:00 am

Eagles Injury Report yesterday…
Did Not Participate
TE Grant Calcaterra (oblique)

Limited Participation
G Landon Dickerson (ankle)
CB Quinyon Mitchell (hamstring)

Full Participation
LB Zack Baun (finger)
DT Jalen Carter (heel)
DT Jordan Davis (shoulder)

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 9:54 am

Hmmm…

JacksonVike
16 October 2025 9:20 am

It is nice to see Cashman as Full Participant in practice. Also, good to see AVG at least limited.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 9:35 am

Yeah, that neck injury thing worries me though with Van Ginkel.

No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 8:36 am

Not bad for a guy who joined the team on 24 August and took over 3 weeks later.

NoDakRube
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 8:49 am

Not bad at all. I would expect him to play well this Sunday if he starts. Then, if we win, we would have a top 10 QB according to those metrics with a 3 and 1 record.

If that happens, tell me again how we sit him?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  NoDakRube
16 October 2025 9:06 am

Well, I think the Eagles will come after Wentz. Fangio plays a base 3-4, but always brings at least four guys and even five, using blitz packages from everywhere. If they drop back into that cover three look we have to be able to run the ball. Fangio has run cover three 30% of the time this year. If they play cover one, then we have to hit the deep ball to Addison or Jefferson. Fangio is playing cover one 26% of the time.

If the O-line holds up decently, I’d bet Wentz has a good day.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
16 October 2025 9:15 am

With Wentz being a ‘full participant’ and JJ (QB) being ‘limited’ on the Injury report I think that they setting the stage for a Wentz start.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 9:34 am

It looks that way. Before the London game though, they said Wentz had a rib injury that really affected him. Said he was “lobbing” the ball in practice. Now we all know you can take a shot in the ribs (unpleasant procedure) to get through that, but those shots wear off by the 4th quarter usually.

This week, all the pundits are talking about is the shoulder injury. It’s like they completely forgot about the ribs. I don’t think a single reporter asked him about that injury, and I haven’t seen anyone bring it up in any article this week.

Pundits are stupid.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 10:08 am

‘Before the London game though they said that Wentz had a rib injury’

But he played in that game with those injuries and did fine.
He has had two weeks to heal so I doubt he is ‘more injured’.
I don’t see his shoulder/ribs as a reason for him to not play.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
16 October 2025 10:23 am

Ever had a rib injury? You are scared to sneeze, or cough for that matter. Every single thing you do seems to end up making that thing hurt. Even just reaching for the salt at the dinner table. They don’t heal up quickly either. As I said, you take the shot to play. It hurts like hell when they stick that big needle all the way in too.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 10:28 am

Yes I dislocated my rib in Korea.
It does hurt to sneeze. Just getting out of bed was a chore.
But I still did PT and my job, although gingerly.
And I wasn’t given any pain killers.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Surly Viking
16 October 2025 11:41 am

I dislocated my rib in Korea wrestling oddly enough. They gave me a wrap/support brace but I couldn’t put it on myself.
Thankfully punctured lung was not an issue with a dislocation.

MT Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
16 October 2025 12:12 pm

The rib wrap thing humbles me and reminds me that in medicine, they say 50% of what you learn in medical school is wrong. The problem is you don’t know which 50%.

When I broke my ribs back in February, I had a couple of people ask if I was “wrapping” or “taping” the fractures.

I’m reasonably sure no one is routinely advocating immobilizing the chest for rib fractures (I’m not talking flail chest managed by plate and screw fixation in severe chest trauma). To do so would significantly increase atelectasis and chance of puhnooomeahhh. I checked UpToDate just now and there is no recommendation for immobilization.

Also, for SoCal, I have read thousands upon thousands of chest studies and never once diagnosed a rib dislocation. Even mention of them is vanishingly rare in the allopathic literature. It seems plausible that a rib might sublux in the joint without fracture, but the whole rib dislocation thing seems much more popular in chiropractic circles. Which is just to say I don’t know how you would diagnose it other than to say oh you have intercostal pain maybe your rib dislocated.

NoDakRube
Reply to  MT Viking
16 October 2025 12:27 pm

Speaking of dislocations, 1 thing I don’t miss since I hung up my basketball shoes at age 48 is the 1 or 2 finger dislocations each year….
Looking back they really sucked

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
16 October 2025 12:34 pm

It was in the upper center of my chest, just to the right of my heart. I can still feel the small lump where one rib is slightly out of place.

Never been to a chiropractor and for this injury I didn’t even make past the emergency room, no followups with GP or specialist.

pirateflip
Reply to  Surly Viking
16 October 2025 5:34 pm

Like me, you obviously missed out on the “new math”, I still don’t understand how they do division (my kids were home schooled, so I never had to try to figure that out).

Northwoods
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:21 pm

Depends on where the fracture is, how many are broken, and how badly. I cracked a rib last week trying to reach up/into my boat. Right below my R nipple.

Yeah, a strong cough bothers me, but I can still sleep on my R side, I played volleyball last night (no diving, no spiking, no overhand serving).

Granted, the other team wasn’t trying to pound me into the sand……..

USAF82
USAF82
16 October 2025 8:27 am

QB play well and fine we know JJ is inexperienced and will need time and work. Our defense will be the problem they can’t stop the run. Hopefully cashman and vangink will help

NoDakRube
Reply to  USAF82
16 October 2025 8:35 am

Need Cashman and vangink badly. Load up to stop the run.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  NoDakRube
16 October 2025 8:40 am

Defense is definitely important if we want to win games. This week we have Hurts and Saquon Barkley to contend with. Gotta have a plan for A.J. Brown and DeVonta Smith. Their TE Dallas Goedert can be a problem too.

Flores has his hands full this coming Sunday.

Northwoods
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
16 October 2025 12:22 pm

AJ Brown has been a non-factor this season.

Of course that means he’ll light us up this Sunday……..

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Northwoods
16 October 2025 12:42 pm

Of course…

JacksonVike
Reply to  Northwoods
16 October 2025 12:46 pm

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 1:37 pm

Ha, yup. It’s how us “older” fans brains are wired after decades of watching this team. Hurts and AJ have record day, Barkley runs for 150 and 2 tuddys.

Wrenage
16 October 2025 7:57 am

I really wanted to see Brosma this week. Wentz is a known quantity.

Wrenage
Reply to  Surly Viking
16 October 2025 9:13 am

Valid point. They are probably all destined for the blue tent at some point.

DE Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
16 October 2025 9:45 am

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Wrenage
16 October 2025 8:22 am

Brosmer, the new Slotergoat.

KFEY93
Reply to  Wrenage
16 October 2025 8:44 am

No you dont. You think you do, you dont.

NoDakRube
Reply to  KFEY93
16 October 2025 8:50 am

KFEY is awarded the comment of the day..but it is early

KFEY93
Reply to  NoDakRube
16 October 2025 10:55 am

Wrenage
Reply to  KFEY93
16 October 2025 9:14 am

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
16 October 2025 9:42 am

that guy is pretty fly….FOR A WHITE GUY

KFEY93
Reply to  Wrenage
16 October 2025 10:54 am

😂 😂

JacksonVike
16 October 2025 6:17 am

Happy Thorsday,

FTP

FTE

Skol

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  JacksonVike
16 October 2025 6:59 am

Good morning, SKOL!

FTP!

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
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16 October 2025 9:13 am

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