Minnesota Vikings Discussion-Friday SkolAsylum: 24 Oct 2025

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Vikings Discussion & Random Thoughts

Wow, that was an ugly game to watch. The Vikings came out looking uninspired, then there was a pick 6 that was comically overturned, and then the Vikings looked even more uninspired. The defense laid down and allowed the Chargers to run all over them. The offense spit and sputtered, didn’t block, and the offensive scheme was horribly misguided. It was like KOC was unaware that the O line is a seive. They didn’t even try to establish the running game, instead they decided to trust their backup QB, who was operating at about 50% health, to stand in the pocket and get clobbered while he held the ball too long at times. It was ugly all around, I don’t have a lot more to say about it. What a crap fest.

I do like Russell Wilson more than I did prior to seeing this tweet. Here’s a link to the entire story from ESPN.

Vikings and NFL News

Justin Jefferson became the NFL’s youngest player to reach 8,000 yards, per Vikings.com.

Scores and stats from last night’s game, if you really want to look at them, from Vikings.com.

Aaron Rodgers said he will retire at Packer at some point, per NFL.com.

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This 3IU/Atlas thing is fun to follow, maybe the end is nigh? If nothing else, it’s fun to speculate. Enjoy!

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No longer New Vikings Fan
26 October 2025 9:07 am

We have to finish our last 10 games at least 8-2 to have a chance of making the playoffs IMO.

Think we can do it? Or should we tank for Arch Manning? Grin.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
26 October 2025 9:55 am

Archie is injured.
10-2 not impossible but unlikely, even highly unlikely.
But no reason not to try, although they ‘try’ to win every game even if it didn’t look like it on Thursday.

No longer New Vikings Fan
26 October 2025 8:00 am

After a goofy first half last night where they gave up a safety, and fell behind 18-14 to LSU, the Aggies scored 35 in the second half to win 49-25. A&M remains undefeated, and LSU lost to Vanderbilt as well as us.

VikingPhilip
25 October 2025 5:53 pm

Isn’t today Saturday? Am I in a timeshift?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
25 October 2025 6:05 pm

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  VikingPhilip
26 October 2025 7:39 am

Believe it’s Sunday?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
26 October 2025 7:52 am

Good morning

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
26 October 2025 7:58 am

Good morning to you. Still stinging from the Chargers game. Just too much crap to get over quickly.
Maybe can watch some good football today and enjoy that.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
26 October 2025 8:07 am

Same… hope the Ravens beat the Bears today, but I have my doubts.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 4:35 pm

Why you don’t hate the NFL enough.

So now the NFL is pushing the narrative that Reichards missed FG in London didn’t hit the camera wire, that was an optical illusion. This is despite previously stating that the officials ‘missed the call’ during the game.

https://fansided.com/nfl/al-michaels-is-the-last-honest-voice-the-nfl-hasn-t-scripted

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 4:43 pm

Goofy

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 4:52 pm

Is it Goofy or Pluto?
I can never tell the difference.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 4:52 pm

Pluto’s got the big feet.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
25 October 2025 5:09 pm

Google says,
‘In Disney cartoons, Goofy is a person, not a dog. He is just drawn to resemble a dog, just as Mickey Mouse is a person drawn as a mouse and Donald Duck is a person drawn as a duck. Pluto, however, is a dog drawn as a dog.’

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 12:23 pm

Mamdani choked up when he told the story of how “My aunt stopped taking the subway after 9/11 because she did not feel safe in her hijab.”
Not because 2,976 people stopped taking the subway after 9/11 because they were murdered.

And this moron is going to be the next mayor of NYC??

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 12:29 pm

This the same victim card the Muslims play in every Western Country they come to. They are the most oppressed people in the world. They are the ones who are the persecuted. They suffer Islamophobia everywhere.

Oh yeah, they rape and murder non-believers by the thousands.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 12:41 pm

If you’re Jewish and live in New York, and vote Democratic, you are absolutely nuts!

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
25 October 2025 12:53 pm

‘If you’re Jewish and live in New York, and or vote Democratic, you are absolutely nuts!’

FIFY

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 1:04 pm

The rest of deserve what they get, but not the Jewish folks.
Wait till there’s no fruit or meat in the socialist grocery stores.
And after rent controls, all the apartments will fall to total disrepair.
Let them have it – full socialism.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
25 October 2025 4:17 pm

Wait till there’s no fruit or meat in the socialist grocery stores’

Well the Jewish folk won’t mind if they run out of pork. #grin

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 4:54 pm

They’ve got money and will go to real stores. It’s the stupid that voted democrat that are going to get screwed – and they deseerve it.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
25 October 2025 5:50 pm

‘Play stupid games and win stupid prizes’.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
25 October 2025 1:24 pm

They vote overwhelmingly Democrat for some reason. I’m hoping that their eyes have been opened now though. This guy is openly supporting the Intifada. He supports Hamas. He supports death to Israel.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 11:05 am

I am curious how this Indiana-UCLA game is going to go.
Not 100% convinced Indiana is legit yet.
UCLA is undefeated since it scored that epic upset of top 5 rated Penn St after a horrific start to the season.

Could be an interesting game.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 11:15 am

Well Indiana starting off with a Pick 6 of UCLA can help convince me that they are legit.
Or that UCLA is not.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 12:55 pm

35-3 at the half.
I guess Indiana is pretty legit.

No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 9:48 am

Laughing…

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 9:53 am

He looks familiar.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 9:55 am

Laughing

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 9:56 am

After the Charger game, I’m not sure if we need more help upfront or on the backend – we couldn’t stop the run or the pass.

manly-purple
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 10:54 am

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 8:43 am

With all of the discussions about keeping Wentz in the game Thursday here are KOCs justifications. I think that they are ‘part’ of the truth, just not all of it.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/vikings-coach-kevin-oconnell-explains-decision-keep-carson-wentz-game-prolonged-period-despite-appa

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 9:38 am

Wentz is a competitor, and a tough guy. He wants to play, and these guys all live in denial. They always think they can still get it done. Like the Knight in the Holy Grail. “It’s just a flesh wound”. Still, there’s a point where it’s clear they are too diminished to be effective. I think we saw this clearly on the 30 yard throw to Jefferson that was picked, Wentz had his left arm folded across his chest. The ball sailed on him and that was that. He just couldn’t throw the ball anymore.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 9:51 am

Of course. How many times do you see a Manager in baseball go to the mound in. the sixth and say I thin k you’re getting tired. And the pitcher will say no Skip I’m just fine. Athletes are competitors and don’t want to come out.
But that’s why coaches get paid big bucks to make decisions like this.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
25 October 2025 12:23 pm

KOC’s take…

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 12:55 pm

I actually think that’s pretty damning. Given all that, and we beaten why not just have Wentz go out and handoff. Get the game over as quickly as possible without further hurting anyone.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
25 October 2025 1:25 pm

Good point.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 9:54 am

Monty Python Auto Rec.

No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 8:39 am

Just saw this… I’m doubtful it’s anything more than clickbait.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 9:03 am

Moar Kork!

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
25 October 2025 9:08 am

I doubt that Cousins plays. Tiger Woods played, and won, a U.S. Open on a broken leg.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
25 October 2025 9:20 am

And Adam Thielen finished a game with a broken bone in his back.
He did state that it wasn’t an important bone.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
25 October 2025 9:22 am

Love this story… “not an important bone”. People just don’t get how tough these guys are.

No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 5:58 pm

Well, not surprised…

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 6:51 pm

I assume everyone else on the 53 was considered more valuable.
Are not the Jets #1 on the waiver wire with their perfect 0-7 record??

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 7:05 pm

Yes

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 7:22 pm

From what I saw last night, the “valuability” of the other 53 is questionable.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 8:46 pm

A logical question in the light of such strong evidence as was observed on TNF.

JRobert
JRobert
24 October 2025 5:41 pm

Honestly, still bothered by that game last night.
Guess it’s Friday night and a couple of beers will soften the ache.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 5:45 pm

I think we’re all still bugged by the game. Such a complete and abject failure.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 5:46 pm

Since I have adopted ‘Hope for the best but expect the worst’ I find that I recover quicker.
It still hurts, no doubt but for not quite as long.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 3:51 pm

Just saw this JJ (WR) ad on TV.
He does seem to be in a bunch of them lately.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 4:58 pm

Since he hardly makes any money plying football, needs side work.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 5:33 pm

He has to ‘make hay while the sun shines’ I guess.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 5:35 pm

Hay? He’s going to get a hernia carrying all those gold bars to the bank.

pirateflip
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 5:46 pm

I also noticed he’s in a lot of commercials. Maybe he’s planning to hold out until he gets traded… Maybe I should figure out the sarc fount…

benjammin
Admin
24 October 2025 2:13 pm

Summary:

MP is glad Wentz and McCown had fun last night

Wren suggests KOC and KAM get on food stamps

JV suggests engaging in arson

Jrob finds Bow comments “thoughtful”

DE’s hangover is bad

Wren reports KOC is in love with Madison Wentz, according to foreskinface KOC lays with her in the biblical sense

According to freezey, Jonathon Allen doesn’t exist other than his sack

If jacksonvike were starting QB he’d gnaw the asses of the oline

Gone Fishin can’t catch fish so he’s trying to frighten birds

Slow day after a very bad loss last night

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
24 October 2025 2:36 pm

Great summary – glad you’re back.
Hope all is going well for you and family.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
24 October 2025 2:36 pm

I didn’t make the ‘Summary’.
Now I have ‘A Sad’.
I will have to step up my game obviously.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 2:45 pm

Because you’re wise and don’t say stupid things like the rest of us.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 3:03 pm

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 3:26 pm

I am wise??

Oh I get it, that is an example of the stupid things that people might say to get included in the Summary.

manly-purple
Reply to  benjammin
24 October 2025 3:28 pm

Gone Fishin can’t catch fish so he’s trying to frighten birds

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  benjammin
25 October 2025 7:40 pm

Yay! Summaries are back.

benjammin
Admin
24 October 2025 1:30 pm

I’m cheating on my diet, I’m drinking a tall glass of spicy hot V8, I’m not supposed to because of high sodium content, but I’m a rebel and I deserve it after watching that shitshow last night, let’s recap:

oline couldn’t open holes in the run game, couldn’t pass block either, missing both tackles had a significant impact – ass

QB sucks and is injured, should have been pulled sooner – ass

Defense sucks everywhere, only Guy who really shows up every play is Greenard, dline sucks otherwise, lbs got pushed around in the run game, CBs can’t cover, especially Jeff, safeties were invisible, especially Smith, he needs to move into Shady Pines with Sophia from Golden girls – complete ass

ST weren’t good but look almost competent compared to o and d – ass adjacent

coaching seems to be unable or unwilling to do things differently, they’re kind of stuck with the personnel they have, so I’m not sure what they can do but something has to change – mud butt ass

unless darrisaw, O’Neill, VG, McCarthy, all get fully healthy by next Sunday I don’t see things going well against Detroit

season isn’t over but it’s headed that direction quickly, I’m curious to see if they come out with some fire in their asses next game, or if they wilt like a bunch of pansies

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
24 October 2025 1:57 pm

I think it will be closer than last nights game, because it’s a divisional opponent. Teams often look ahead and past their current opponent to the divisional game.

I highly doubt the Vikings win, given the QB situation though.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
24 October 2025 2:00 pm

And the offensive line situation.
And the defensive line situation.
And the LB situation.
And the defensive secondary situation.
And then theirs coaching too.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
24 October 2025 1:58 pm
benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 2:14 pm

I haven’t been able to find it locally

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
24 October 2025 2:37 pm

You can buy it on-line.
Although that probably will be pricier.

Mjolnir
Reply to  benjammin
24 October 2025 3:13 pm

Agreed. On all accounts.

Glad to have you back around – been thru some stuff w/my dad – he’s okay, but it’s a reminder of his mortality, mine too. Reminding myself of how you lost yours and the tribute you wrote. Fathers & sons and all that stuff. Good men have gone before me, and survived.

Enjoy that V8. I’ll be enjoying some ‘greens’ myself after work.

Skol

🔨

VikingPhilip
24 October 2025 1:25 pm

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SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
24 October 2025 1:29 pm

Well it is never a ‘problem’ if you are in the most popular clique.

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 1:50 pm

Good thing your handle isn’t Gone Catchin..

JacksonVike
24 October 2025 12:45 pm

In my humble opinion, I think Wentz does not care about the team. I think this has been an issue everywhere he has played, and once the team sees it, he loses them.

I feel like the defense isn’t going the extra mile to get the ball back for the offense.

I think it was Manly Purple last night that kept commenting on how Wentz was chumming it up with McCown on the sidelines, even though he was getting his butt kicked on the field. To me it doesn’t seem like he cares if he wins or loses. I was hoping that would change playing for the team he grew up cheering for, but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 12:53 pm

Yea I didn’t like that at all either – a terrible look.
But in the second half, no more smiles and saw him sitting there with his face in pain and the coach keep putting him right back in.
This QB situation on this team is a coaching issue – and it it’s like most all businesses you can bet the front office is involved, ie GM.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 12:59 pm

I think you are reading too much into this. Wentz wouldn’t be out there unless he cared. Trying to remain upbeat while getting killed every play is hard. Keeping your spirits up is a mental challenge. Humor helps with this. You have to admit, the way the O-line was playing was laughable. There was nothing else to do but laugh, really. No matter what is going on, you have to go into every play with a positive outlook. QB’s who are downbeat, take the team down. Men don’t cry, they go out and try. As the leader he has to go into the huddle and influence the other men. If he’s acting dejected, that is the worst way to handle things.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 1:11 pm

I remember I hearing an analogy about this type of situation that I try to apply in like situations.

‘If a surgeon comes out of an operation room where they lost a patient and sees someone they care for/about and smile at them it does not mean that they don’t care about the patient that they lost.’

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 1:14 pm

This is true…

manly-purple
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 1:22 pm

Completely different situation though.

If I was in Wentz’s position, I’d be ticked at myself and the team and wouldn’t be smiling with McCown.

Was McCown trying to stay positive and encourage him? I dunno. But I still wouldn’t smiling.

We need some that gamer attitude we saw at the end of the Chicago game from JJM.

JacksonVike
Reply to  manly-purple
24 October 2025 1:35 pm

I would be chewing ass on the Oline for letting me get killed.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 1:46 pm

They knew they were getting him killed. They were like right there looking at it up close and personal. If that doesn’t change the status quo, yelling at them isn’t going to do anything.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  manly-purple
24 October 2025 1:36 pm

I don’t know, both in they Army and in Prison we joked often and even at the worst of times to break thru the ‘doom’ and depression of the moment’.

I remember being punished as a platoon in basic training and we were left standing at attention in formation. It started to rain, hard, I said out loud ‘It could be worse it could be raining’.
The platoon all started to laugh, the Drill Sgt got upset and we ended up doing pushups in the rain. But the joke still make things better.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 1:57 pm

For sure, about half the time I was in the Army we found humor in just about anything, If not you’d be depressed all the time.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 2:39 pm

And in the prison it is just a depressing place that even bad jokes like mine were appreciated.

manly-purple
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 3:25 pm

I don’t believe those situations you mentioned and the smiles that were on Wentz’s face are describing the same motivation.

Wentz’s didn’t seem like smiling to get through tough times but more like smiling because I’m not that dialed in.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  manly-purple
24 October 2025 3:31 pm

Well since we don’t know what was said it is difficult to assign possible motives and reasons as why that they were laughing or smiling.

Just like coming out of an operating room and smiling. It does not mean that the surgery went well, there are other possible reasons.

No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 12:33 pm

Went to lunch and shopping with with the wife. Trying to just relax now. The team is in a tough way this year. The defense got owned last night completely, and the offense got shut down completely. We ran the ball 9 times for 18 yards before the last possession. Got 2 carries for 16 yards in the last few plays.

When your running game is that weak, and you can’t protect the QB, then you’re in trouble.

Just too much bad right now.

JRobert
JRobert
24 October 2025 11:46 am

Question for you guys that know the rules about the three QB stuff.
In short, why couldn’t JJ have been the backup last night?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 11:52 am

He could have been.
But the narrative that he is still too injured to play does not support making him the backup.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 11:58 am

You don’t have to be 100% as the backup.
Every time Wentz was sacked, he was holding the ball in his right hand and fell on his left shoulder – you could see the pain in his face.
The 4th quarter would have been great game practice time for JJ.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 12:00 pm

Or even Brosmer. Should have been playing way sooner. Maybe he’s Purdy or something. but KOC too stupid and stubborn to try him out.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 12:22 pm

No one says that he ‘can not’ be named backup if he not 100%.

The logic/narrative says Brosmer over JJ (QB) due to healthy-ness.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 12:37 pm

Just appears we are using a different “healthy-ness” standard for different players (QBs).

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 12:39 pm

One QB is hopefully our QB for the next ten years. The other QB is our QB hopefully until next Sunday. A big difference in how you are going to use them. If we were expecting Wentz to be our QB for the next 2-3 years he probably wouldn’t be out there last night.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 12:48 pm

This is a health issue. KOC said during the week he didn’t want to play if he wasn’t completely healthy and could move around (to protect himself)
So you just throw Wentz to the wolves,
Moreover, his injuries were seriously affecting his throwing the ball.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 12:51 pm

Could you pitch with bad ribs and a severely injured left shoulder? That left side is part of the throwing motion.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 12:59 pm

Hell no.
And here’s a tip for all throwing experts here.
Notice that interception in the fourth. You know the one that was such a terrible throw.
Look at his arm position when he releases the ball – it’s to the side. Not his normal motion. When you can’t get your arm “over” the ball, it will always sail high.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 1:08 pm

Agree. Throwing a football is a full body motion. The left side is important. I knew that Wentz had a painful left shoulder injury. Last night I think we all saw just how bad that injury was, and yes, how it affected his throwing motion.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 1:02 pm

Like I said Wentz is a weekly rental, not the long term solution. Is it shitty to keep running him out there, yes. Is it in the best interest of the future of the team to run him out there until JJ is 100% healthy, yes.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 1:03 pm

I drive a rental car a lot different than I drive my personal vehicle.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 1:07 pm

I don’t. And people aren’t machines or pieces of furniture.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 1:32 pm

Trust me, I want to see JJ out there more than anyone, but if it is risking his future health, I say keep him on the bench. Wentz is a 1 year rental that is here to play until JJ is ready.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 1:12 pm

JV, you are coming across like you don’t care about Wentz as a player or a human.

JacksonVike
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 1:20 pm

Look at what I posted, I said it was shitty to keep sending Wentz out there. But that is the life of a backup in the NFL. That is why most of the backups complain, not out loud to the public, when they find out they have to play.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 1:50 pm

You compared him to driving a rental car…

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 1:10 pm

Oh man, that’s great – tell that to all the backups. Youall are just like a piece of the furniture.
And if we are only going to see JJ when he is 100%, what’s that – 2 or 3 weeks a year?

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 11:59 am

You know how it is… those 22-year-olds take forever to heal. Might be out another 3-4 weeks just to be safe.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JRo_42
24 October 2025 12:08 pm

Something about this smells a little “fishy” to me.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 1:00 pm

Couldn’t do any worse at tis point.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 1:01 pm

Pheasant stew for dinner…

JRo_42
JRo_42
24 October 2025 11:24 am

Against my better judgement, I turned on the game last night for about 5 minutes while I was doing dishes. I saw the BS overturned pick-6 and immediately shut it back off. Some might say the ball moved when he hit the ground, but from the front view, it’s because it is in his right hand and when he hits the ground, his wrist and hand rotate, making it look like the ball rotates, but it’s in his grasp the entire time including when he gets up. Ruled interception on field, certainly not enough evidence to overturn. But the NFL has always hated the Vikings for some reason (perhaps even more this game because they are mad about the shitty calls they made last week and deservedly catching hell for it, or they didn’t get the JJ vs Harbaugh matchup they wanted).

Like I said after the Eagles game: Unwatchable rigged garbage. I’m not going to watch anymore this year or keep hoping the Vikings will either play well enough to do well OR be allowed to do well by the NFL. It is a lost cause, and anyone hoping otherwise is foolish and wasting their time IMO. I may never watch a game again unless they make it to the Super Bowl. I still like coming here for the non-football discussions, so I probably will continue. But man, when the Vikings are putting a horrible product on the field (Flores and KOC are extremely overrated btw) and the NFL is rigging games against them, it’s hard to care anymore. Like I said, the NFL will make sure the Packers do well this year (they get a lot of help every year) and I expect NFCC game for them, at least. End of rant.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRo_42
24 October 2025 11:34 am

Rec for truth-i-ness.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JRo_42
24 October 2025 11:44 am

I did find some humor from one play. On one play when we were near the goal line, The Chargers fielded their defense with just TEN players. Of course we still couldn’t score but the refs called a penalty on the Chargers and we got another chance.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 11:58 am

Lol. Shouldn’t be a penalty for having too few men on the field. Disadvantage by itself.

manly-purple
Reply to  JRo_42
24 October 2025 1:24 pm

I feel exactly how you feel. Thank you for putting into words.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  manly-purple
24 October 2025 3:22 pm

You’re welcome!

No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 10:22 am

Just got a call from my brother’s wife. He had a series of seizures last night, fell out of bed, cracked his collar bone, and hurt his right arm. They helicoptered him to the hospital in Mobile, Al. He’s fully sedated, and is resting. Praying for him and hoping there is some treatment. He has had very small seizures, barely noticeable for 12 years. He’s been tested many times, but nothing has ever been “discovered” in his brain. Last night he was in full seizure though and they “captured” the events on their equipment. We’ll see where it goes from here. No one else in the family has experienced anything like this. We’re all praying for him of course.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 10:32 am

Sorry to hear about your brother. Hope he makes a full recovery.
Seizures can be difficult. Worked with a guy who out of no where had one getting on an airplane, Got a lot of tests with negative results. Two weeks later had one and again nothing. After the second he had to give up his drivers license. Strangely, he never had another the rest of his life.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 12:24 pm

Thank you JR. Yes my brother stopped driving after his second episode which were like having your computer reboot he said. He would blank out for a few seconds then come to. Scared him enough that he couldn’t risk driving. At first they were very intermittent. Months apart. Over the years they have become more frequent, but they have not increased in severity. Just a seconds of blanking out, then recovering. I didn’t know about this until my last visit when we evacuated to his house for the hurricane last year. We were sitting at the dinner table, eating and talking. He was answering a question, then he went blank. I had no idea what was going on. His wife was in the kitchen and I alerted her. She came out as she did, he came out of the trance like state he was in. He had no memory of what we were talking about, and had no awareness why he was blanked out.

Last night though, he apparently had a series of very intensive full body seizures. Scary for his wife of course.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 12:34 pm

Hopefully they can determine cause and successfully treat it.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 10:33 am

Condolences.
Hopefully they can find the cause now and then a treatment.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
24 October 2025 12:25 pm

Thanks SoCal. We all have difficulties to deal with of course. I’m worried for my brother. Only hope there is some medication that can help.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 10:34 am

🙏

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
24 October 2025 12:26 pm

Thank you VP.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 10:52 am

Praying for your brother.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
24 October 2025 12:26 pm

Thank you SKOL… means a lot.

manly-purple
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 1:25 pm

Sorry to hear about your brother. Prayers indeed. Blessings on the path forward.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  manly-purple
24 October 2025 1:54 pm

Thank you very much for your kind words and consideration. He is a devout Christian and a significant member of his church. We know God’s will be done. We just hope in this case, his will is that my brother recovers.

manly-purple
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 3:26 pm

Amen

No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 9:29 am

I did think we had a good offseason. I thought adding Hargrave and Allen to the D-line was a huge improvement. I thought adding Fries and Kelly to the O-line was also a big improvement. I expected a lot more from the team than where we’re at right now. Things have gone sideways pretty quickly.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 9:45 am

At this point I’d rather have Ingram and Bradbury.
Whole defense is a mess – period>

freezeyface
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 10:04 am

besides Allen’s “sack” last night, he has been NON EXISTENT this entire season.
our Dline has really struggledf

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 9:20 am

Enjoy GF. Hopefully you’ll catch a few.

Derby Skol
24 October 2025 9:10 am

It was clear last night that the offseason was a complete failure.

Fix the o-line: hahaha nope!

Fix the interior d-line: do we even have DTs???

Secondary is a disaster except Rodgers, who seems to be the only offseason signing that has worked out in any capacity.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Derby Skol
24 October 2025 9:18 am

I hate to say this as I have been a huge KOC fan, but right now we have a major coaching failure.
Think what KOC said earlier in the week. He didn’t want JJ to play unless 100 % to fully protect himself. So he puts Wentz out there in that condition and leaves him in when he clearly couldn’t throw.
At this point it’s not which QB can go out and play the best. It’s which QB is healthy enough to not get killed as quickly, and how long will it be before that one is hurt, and then on to the next.
Both QB’s have been injured playing behind this line.

manly-purple
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 9:42 am

Agreed. KOC is not coaching near “coach of the year” level. His scheming and game planning are awful this year and costing the team.

Northwoods
Reply to  JRobert
24 October 2025 11:05 am

Yeah, that was bordering on @$$hat-level of thinking. Abusive, really.

No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 8:49 am

Tough game to watch last night on pretty much every level. Offense struggled and the defense struggled. I thought this was going to be a much closer contest. We got slapped around pretty good.

freezeyface
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 8:59 am

Don’t forget the special teams….

i wonder if we have the most special teams penalties….it’s gotta be up there

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  freezeyface
24 October 2025 9:01 am

It was definitely a complete shit show.

manly-purple
Reply to  freezeyface
24 October 2025 9:09 am

I always get nervous when Price tries to go to the outside on special teams runs. It almost always results in a holding call.

manly-purple
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 9:43 am

I don’t either. All I can think is that the rules are dumb.

Northwoods
24 October 2025 8:28 am

Watched the INT replay again with much less blurry eyes.

Ball moved. It was the correct, momentum-killing call.

Wrenage
Reply to  Northwoods
24 October 2025 8:30 am

Yeah, I try to make sense of it like this in my brain. If the ground is dislodging the ball, it is a dead ball at that point and control is irrelevant.

manly-purple
Reply to  Northwoods
24 October 2025 8:38 am

Then it should have been incomplete for Kelce too.

The inconsistency from “New York” is what shows their slant.

DE Viking
Reply to  Northwoods
24 October 2025 8:43 am

Yep.

HUNViking
Reply to  Northwoods
24 October 2025 11:05 am

Nobody knows what a catch is anymore. Refs are making it up as they go, just as the script for any given game requires.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 8:04 am

Crap game – you’re being kind.
Completely out coached both sides of the ball, by a considerable margin and. not even close.
And Koc, you’re not going to win any humanitarian awards playing with a wounded QB, clearly hurting on every play, and you keep him fling it. Total crap.
And Flores. I’ve watched football for a long time, but I have never seen a defense where there are zero defenders from seven yards from the LOC to the endzone and from left hash to the right hash. You could match the 8th and I Marching Marine Corp Band thru the middle of our defense. All night long.
If we played the Dolphins tomorrow, I’m not sure who I’d bet on.

Wrenage
24 October 2025 7:32 am

I think I know what happened. It is a David/Bathesheba situation. KOC fell in love with Wentz’s wife, and tried to murder Wentz by leaving him in the game.

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
24 October 2025 7:46 am

great biblical reference!!!!

“in the days when coaches go out to coach, KOC remained at his TCO office, and it happened late one afternoon, when KOC arose from his desk and was walking along the corridors of TCO, he saw a woman in a hottub and the woman was very beautiful, and KOC sent and inquired who this woman was, and one of his coordinators said “is this not Mrs Wentz, wife of your starting QB?”, so KOC sent his coordinators to her and she came to him and he lay with her….”

Wrenage
Reply to  freezeyface
24 October 2025 7:50 am

No lies detected.

manly-purple
Reply to  Wrenage
24 October 2025 8:01 am

Lol

DE Viking
24 October 2025 7:08 am

Hangover is bad this morning after that game last night.

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 7:43 am

Yeah. But drinking didn’t cause my hangover. The Vikings did.

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 7:48 am

I never would have normally, but I’m in the cities visiting. I took one for the team last night.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
24 October 2025 8:05 am

Well I do and I did and it didn’t help a bit.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
24 October 2025 8:25 am

Meh, I didn’t expect much different. Thought the defense would do better, but I think they saw the writing on the wall pretty early between the refs and and the qb. Next week will be better. Might not be a victory, but it seems like when there’s a game like that and the attitude here gets where it is, they come out and win by 20.

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
24 October 2025 8:41 am

I didn’t expect a beatdown like that.
I figured the Vikings would lose.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
24 October 2025 8:50 am

I don’t think I would have called that ahead of time, but I just found myself not upset and not surprised as the game went on. It needed to happen so that if JJ bobbles a little there is less calls for Wentz to get back out there. They should just put him on IR.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
24 October 2025 9:00 am

Wentz gets killed out there last night, and all you care about is McCarthy not being threatened when he plays? That is a very fucked up position.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 10:23 am

What are you talking about? I think Wentz needs to sit and heal. Put him on IR for 4 weeks so if the line gets JJ killed they aren’t putting Wentz back out there again at half health. Injury or no injury, Wentz has not looked good. That late interception yesterday was horrible.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
24 October 2025 10:25 am

I’m talking about all you care about is McCarthy. That’s fucked up.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
24 October 2025 10:35 am

You’re an idiot.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
24 October 2025 10:47 am

That’s thoughtful.

benjammin
Admin
24 October 2025 7:07 am

FloridaSKOL
24 October 2025 6:50 am

Good morning, SKOL!

FTP!

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
24 October 2025 10:43 am

FTP Auto Rec.

FloridaSKOL
24 October 2025 6:50 am

JacksonVike
24 October 2025 6:14 am

It may be time to burn it all down. Have a Pohlad type fire sale at the trade deadline, fire KOC and KAM. And start over next year. It can’t be any worse then the first 2 drives I watched last night. Didn’t watch anymore, as it was so terrible.

freezeyface
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 7:32 am

unfortunately we just extended KOC and KAM……

JacksonVike
Reply to  freezeyface
24 October 2025 8:58 am

Doesn’t mean they can’t be let go. We let Zim go the year after his extension. You just have to pay them their contract, unless they get hired on elsewhere.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
24 October 2025 1:05 pm

Luckily they don’t can’ count against the cap

Wrenage
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 7:34 am

I am okay with that. It is radical and extreme, but it is not that crazy. Why limp along with the duo for three mid years. Just move on. Fire Kwesi and KOC. Let Flores play coach for the rest of the year so he can get that out of his system. Fans get to see something different. Everyone wins. Except Kwesi and KOC, but they can go on SNAP.

Oh…

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
24 October 2025 8:26 am

No. It they look like that the rest of the year and it’s clear JJ doesn’t belong on the nfl, then do what you want at the end of the season. All will be better next weekend. JJ will cure all.

manly-purple
24 October 2025 5:27 am

FTP

At least Wentz was able to smile the whole night on the sideline while getting his backside whooped on the field. 🙄 Glad he and McCown were having fun.

Flores, great scheme. Keep it up, buddy.

KOC, thanks for making the Vikings decision to hire you instead of Harbaugh look good last night. Nice work. You had the guys really ready to play.

They all gave up after the pick-6 was overturned. No fight in them. Also, reffing calls matter. (I’m sure the league was none too happy it was a blowout.)

But hey, at least our front office and coaches have great collaboration.

manly-purple
Reply to  manly-purple
24 October 2025 5:40 am

Also, the NFL is the worst. Never giving them my money again.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  manly-purple
24 October 2025 10:43 am

Don’t you dare speak bad of the NFL.

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FloridaSKOL
Reply to  manly-purple
24 October 2025 6:58 am

Flores seems to have lost his touch, these last 2 weeks.

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Gone fishin'

I'm a dad, husband, Army vet, believer, and a die-hard, life-long Vikings fan from the great state of North Dakota. I've been a Viking fan dating back to 1980, I've been covering the Vikings for nearly a decade, and I founded Skoloholics in 2022. I work in real estate and property management, I love spending time with family, working in the yard, doing anything in the outdoors, and as you can tell from my username, I love fishing. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!

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