Happy Monday, and welcome to Skoloholics. The Vikings were able to tame the Colts yesterday, in a 16-10 victory. It may not be pretty but a win is a win. At some point our offense is going to have to start firing on all 8 cylinders. We saw flashes of what this offense can do, but that is it, flashes. We have too much talent on the offense to be this lethargic.
Hitman got his 40th interception, putting him in the 40/20 club, joining Ronde Barber and Charles Woodson as the only three players to reach this goal. The latter are both in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Aaron Jones Sr left the game with a knee injury, but was able to come back in, with a brace on. I would like to see him take a little time off to prevent the knee getting worse. And, to be prepared for later in the season. The coaching and medical staff needs to step in and save him from himself.
There were a few surprises yesterday; the Panthers got destroyed by the Bucs, Atlanta beat the 9ers, Seattle beat the Chiefs. The last two, make the Vikings the last undefeated team in the league.
The Vikings will be heading into the toughest stretch of the season, and we will get to see what we are really made of. Up next is the Detroit Lions in Motown. Following that is a Monday Night matchup against the Buffalo Bills at home. Adrian Peterson will be inducted into the Vikings Ring of Honor on the Monday Night game.
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35 years ago tonight Kirby Puckett hit a walk off home run off Charlie Liebrandt to win game 6 of the 1991 World Series.
The next night Jack Morris pitched 10 innings of shutout baseball, and the Twins won the series, their 2nd in 5 years.
Still my greatest memory as a minnesota sports fan.
’And we’ll see you tomorrow night!…’ – Jack Buck
I was in Stuttgart Germany and the games started like 2am.
Of course I got up for it.
Game 7 ran long and so I was late for PT, the 1SG asked me why and so I told him.
He ranted about how ‘missing formation had consequences’, I said ‘I will accept them’.
I never heard another word about it.
Panzer Kaserne? Kelly Barracks?
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The Teacher did not think it was a funny as I did.
I bet not….not sharing it with my teacher
You are braver thsn i am. I decided not to pass it on
‘Braver’ is one possible explanation.
#grin
I’m also sick of KOC winning the Toss and choosing to start on offense. IT NEVER WORKS and often we 3 and out and give it right back to the opponents.
I understand he wants to start hot and jump out early, but he ALWAYS used to defer, idk what’s changed but let’s stop starting on offense and lets let the defense start hot for us
This team in my honest opinion feels eerily similar to the 2003 minnesota vikings. Both this year and 2003 the bye week was week 6. In 2003, we proceeded to go 3-7 down the stretch and we had the 23rd best offense in terms of scoring.
If the offense doesn’t shape up, I could see a similar scenario. The defense is not going to be this stout the entire year. The remaining qb’s are going to throw quick to avoid pressure.They’re going to probably score in the 20’s. Long sustained drives. If our offense doesn’t wake up, these games will not be close.
I remember that season.
think it was the year of the Moss flip to Moe Williams.
I would not hate it if we traded for Tony Pollard.
good pass catcher, looked good in a bad Titans offense.
and he should be more affordable than Taylor or Barkley – both will cost too much in draft capital.
I’d rather we just kick the tires on Cam Akers again…..
No to Cam Akers ( hope that was a joke). But Pollard on the cheap, plus adding a guard would be okay with me. It doesnt need to be a monster star at RB. We need health and starting caliber, thats it.
It was
feels like we bring him in yearly
I think he finally hung up his cleats haha
Leroy Hoard can still probably get you three
How bout AD?
Pollard only has 40 yards more than Jones. I’d rather take a RB who can produce much more than an aging cripple.
Taylor has 150 more than Jones. I thought it would be more than that, but it’s only 25 more per game.
Jones has been doing pretty darn well.
Tampa’s Irving has about 120 more than Jones, and their season is pretty much over.
Jones has played well – but he’s got zero burst at this point.
Pollard a bit younger – more explosive than Jones at this point while being a good pass catcher.
Figuring Mason as our starter going forward, I think Pollard would provide a healthier change of pace while giving Jones time to heal, maybe get his legs back a bit.
And Pollard would be cheaper than JT or Barkley – fear both the Colts and Eagles would want too much.
Irving would be interesting to me – but I don’t think the Bucs believe their season is over yet. Thats a rough division and 8-9 might be enough to take it. Irving also comes with a bit of an injury history – he’s younger, but I also think he might be too expensive.
Maybe Murray just sucks, but it’s at least one or the other if not both.
Yes he is.
It’s clear to me that whoever the QB is, KOC doesn’t adapt his offensive.
He assumes his offense is for every QB.
I didn’t get to see much of this game, but McCarthy looks a lot like RGIII to me in how he plays. He tends to throw the ball to the player physically closest to him on the field, or the player farthest away from him. He throws it in front of the defense or over it. It won’t take long for defenses to pick up on this IMO. Harbaugh did this with Lamar in Baltimore early on too BTW.
Wow that was ugly
Can’t throw it where you can’t see
KOC is not the QB Whisperer.
KOC is the QB killer.
Doesn’t matter what QB, they suck here.
No need to pay the QB.
No need to draft a QB before round 3.
Vikings fans need to…..
Learn it.
Own it.
Accept it.
Darnold didn’t suck here. He actually got better here.
Until the playoffs…..
Until he had to shoulder the offense in high pressure situations where we didnt have a run game. Its very clear he needs a great run game for play action to work, otherwise he folds. Look at Seattle this year when they didn’t have a run game. Their run game and defense won that SB last year. Did he have good passing stats against the Rams? Yes. Did they have a good run game, also yes. Last year and so far this year he is tops in the league in turn overs. Darnold is not the ex we should be crying over.
I don’t think Will had that kick blocked yesterday
I think he’s bored and bet Thorson he could bank it off the defender’s hand
That’s reasonable.
With the news of Jone’s knee being powder again (probably), the Vikes will more then likely be kicking the tires on trading for an RB, who and how much will remain to be seen. I would still like a guard, and or a safety/ DT as well but. Beggars cant be choosers. Murray regressed from the previous two games but KOC’s play calling was also bizarre at several points. Its a combination of things. Bizarre play calls at times, combined with good play calls that work (wr’s open) but Murry not moving around in the pocket to see them and or, over throwing the route. I have zero qualms with the defense but they will get gassed out and bled eventually if we cant control the rock and at least score. Im still curious on getting Wentz in there in some of these upcoming games if the offense isn’t working.
KM was reminding me of JJMc on some of those easy throws he rifled at the receiver…..
Schefter is reporting that the injury is not significant. Jones is day to day apparently.
maybe so, but there’s no way he’s not missing multiple games between now and week 18
Exactly. Even when “healthy” its hard to watch him run.
Eh, he’s glass bones and paper skin at this point. He has zero burst left. He might as well be out there with a walker with tennis balls on it. They need depth/ another starting caliber RB.
Anybody else feel like the Lions are a darling again this year? The NFL has gifted them at least 2 games already (the NO game with the backwards pass/fumble that was ruled incomplete against all logic and never before) and the Packers game yesterday (several bad roughing calls, an interception that was called back from St. Brown just plowing into Cisse and the defense getting called for PI somehow, and there were several more bad calls that favored the Lions). They have been getting some very favorable and fake calls in their favor the past 5 years or so since they’ve become good and it just seems like the NFL wants them to succeed this year again. I am guessing they likely win the division (the NFL loves good offense, after all).
Worst part is I have a Lions friend fan who continues to claim that those calls were “just the game” and didn’t favor them heavily. It’ll happen against the Vikings next week again, mark my words. And of course, he’ll never admit it…
Packers did get screwed pretty badly yesterday. But believe the Lions time has passed and the new darlings are more likely the Bears.
Could be true. But being gifted 2 games this year already is hard to ignore.
Also, I don’t feel bad for the Packers when they’ve been the recipient of ref-assisted victories for decades and they lose 1% of those games due to the refs instead of winning them.
I still like Victory Mondays! SKOL!
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Only one team in the league has scored less TDs than the Vikings this year. Thank God for Will Reichard.
So week 1 didn’t happen??
Believe this is a “bit” of a knock on Tyler and Wentz seemed to score all the points in the. fourth quarter.
Just pointing out that stats don’t lie but people use stats to shape a narrative, aka lie.
It’s obviously just to push a narrative but it accurate that outside of game one they’ve struggled to score TDs
So kind of like when you take the long runs out………
i LOVE koc, but this was yet another game that we had an extensive amount of time to be ready and the offense came out gross.
yes kyler kind of sucks. but 4 straight runs to start the game and then turnover on downs? that’s not on kyler. that’s on KOC.
there were plenty of head scratching offensive play calls that leave this KOC bobo scratching his head….do i love him or do i hate him, i can’t figure it out.
watching the seahawks game last night, they annoucers talked about how Mcdonald has started calling quicker plays for sam darnold so he doesn’t keep getting sacked. so is there not a way to do this for us as well, KOC?
Other teams get their best WR’s the ball ALL THE TIME (looking at you JSN, looking at you Puka etc) how then does the “best wr in the game” only get 4-7 looks a game? he should have 12-15 targets EVERY SINGLE GAME.
i hate being one to pick apart a win and complain but here we are.
our defense is legit.
congrats to harry for further cementing a first ballot HOF career
Yeah, why do the KOC teams always come out of a bye week looking like crap? It happens every year with him.
In fairness, it used to happen with Zimmer too.
The new Call of Duty came out. At least there was no Love Boat, at least that has been reported yet.
Yes, as stated here many times by me and others, KOC is stupid. The dumb look on his face, after he makes dumb decisions and they predictable have an undesirable result, is annoying.
Well said
I like koc the HC, koc the chooser of QBs and playcalling not so much
Im with yuh, my patience with KOC is wearing thin, they need to get a OC that he can gel with but untimely runs the offense and regulate himself to head coaching detail. This team has too much talent on it to be misfiring this bad on the regular, 7 weeks in.
Just let it out…
If KOC doesn’t give up play calling and the Vikings extend Murray at the end of the year like I expect they will, I will have a hard time watching football or calling myself a Vikings fan.
There’s 0 chance they extend Murray imo.
100% chance if they make the playoffs, no matter the way they do it. Too much PTSD and no other options since they gave JJ away.
Depends on what Murray will demand for a salary after basically playing for free.
If he wins a playoff game he’s going to be asking stupid money.
If he doesn’t improve and we lose our WC game, I could see them lowballing him for one more year as a bridge gap to our newest project.
Its going to take a deep run and playing will in the eventual play off loss to even consider extending him.
“This is a safe space”
That is misinformation.
If you’re not going to use him, trade him.
LOL great minds
Just curious, how is this figured. If KOC draws up a play and JJ is the first read and primary target, but the QB passes to another receiver, how is that scored?
I suspect that JJ (WR) is double or even triple covered every play.
A defense taking away a player by focusing on them is not the same as ignoring that player.
So do the other top WRs not get double teamed?
I don’t watch the other WRs but I expect that they do.
Maybe it works better against us/JJ (WR) cause our QB sucks??
Yes for sure. But believe he was doubled a lot when Cousins, Darnold (even Mullins) were here and he caught a ton of balls.
Bingo. He broke records (with Thielen as well) when Cousins was here. He’s not worth what he’s paid when we have garbage QB play and can’t get him the ball.
I think it’s as simple as the number of times the ball is actually thrown at him.
If they counted the plays that would have gone to him had he been open or Murray not pressured, they’d have to sit down with KOC every game and ask who was the primary target on THIS play…..how about THIS play……and how about THIS play…..
I have a crazy theory; KOC has been holding back on the offensive side, waiting until we play more difficult opponents. This way these opponents won’t be prepared for our “new look” offense, next week.
I went to the gophers game this weekend, it was a slog but I’d never seen the gophers beat Iowa live so there was that, couple guys that could be drafted by Vikings that stood out to me
C/G Greg Johnson – likely early 2nd round pick, can play all over the interior and has played tackle, Brandel is meh, fries is meh and expensive
DE Anthony Smith- had a huge season last year, I think led big ten in sacks but has been quiet this year probably day two pick, he’s a rather large traditional DE at like 285 and can play inside too, seems like a guy Flores could use in different ways
CB – John Nestor transferred from Iowa last and started ever since, leads the team in picks over that time, likely day three pick, Rodgers is a free agent at the end of the year so they’ll need some more depth, he’s white though so I’m sure he’ll get moved to safety
I was thinking of you when the Gophers won. I thought about making a comment that Ben is going to be happy. Your hate is strong for Iowa.
I went home and ate bacon
MUSLIM HATER!!!
And yeah I hate Iowa like I hate the FTP
Same.
Most annoying college football fans I ever had to deal with when I worked near dinkytown.
It’s interesting in what’s happening with fans right now. Like… I get the worry with offense, I do. BUT, imagine it was the other way around and we can all remember times it was the other way around. Where the Vikings had some great stats, were getting a lot of yards, but losing games. I feel these same fans would be going, “there’s no moral victories in the NFL. Stats don’t mean shit if you aren’t winning!” Which is true… and here we are winning but without the offensive stats.
I get both sides, but I’m certainly wary of the 6-0 record. I know people love to mention the old Ravens defense and such, so it’s possible, but it’s far less probable without even an average looking offense.
I’m guarding myself from too much hope considering the past.
That said, I love watching our defense. It used to be such a pain to watch the defense, but now it’s very entertaining and exciting every play.
Yep. I want this defense with the 1998 offense.
Funny how it never coincides.
The 1998 offense had a bad but opportunistic defense.
Good defense with Zimmer never had a good offense.
Early KOC offense had Donatell defense.
I think 2009 was the closest, but it was pretty balanced from what I remember. Perhaps I’m wrong on that.
Maybe the Vikings just need to get a true #1 WR, trade for a top TE, draft a #2 WR in the first round, bring in 2 good running backs and then they will be able to do something on offense. If they want to get really crazy, they could bring in a WR3 that has been one of the better players in the league over the last few years…
Or just play Wentz, he’s not elite but he can operate the offense, might make some mistakes but he get into field goal range more often than the current QB
He can be like 2025 Sam??
Our defense is at least equal to the Sea Chickens, probably better, but our running game is not as good.
Why not. In my opinion Kyler is a terrible fit for the offense KOC wants to run. Wentx if they can keep him healthy is a much better fit.
When we’re playing with the lead in the 2nd half, the D is like 11 sharks smelling blood in the water.
‘I’m guarding myself from too much hope considering the past’
As every long time Viking fan does.
‘Hope for the best but expect the worst’.
I am just enjoying the ride regardless of how long it lasts.
Wait until this weekend. I think the Lions put up 30+ points and I don’t think it will be that fun.
Could happen.
‘Hope for the best but expect the worst’.
As a fan I am unhappy because the team has hitched the team wagon to a proven lower tier but athletic QB that is not able to run the offense KOC demands. I think the team should have kept JJ around another year vs bringing in Kyler.
The offense is shit. Plain and simple. Not working.
Defense is fun to watch, but unless they get much better on the other side of the ball, this will not end well. Maybe they become like the Ravens in early 2000s and just win 12-9 or 16-10 even vs good teams. I do not think this is sustainable.
This season to me is just exactly like the Case Keenum season. I just kept waiting for the trainwreck. I feel the same way now. No faith in the qb
KOC can only call the plays, he can’t execute them.
Some problems are execution some are head scratching play calls. 4th and one from the shotgun??
I guess if it is stupid and it doesn’t work then it is still stupid.
Correct. On the same note, his playcalling and his ability (or willingness) to adjust his offense to the QB he chose leaves something to be desired as well.
4 runs and a turnover on downs after a good return in favorable field position on the first drive of the game? Sheesh…
This is not anyway like 2017, that offense was 12th in scoring, so slightly above average. This offense is in 30s.
With the weapons on offense, there is no reason for them to average less than 25 points a game but they can barely even score a TD. A high school coach could come up with ways for this offense to be productive. KOC is a good head coach, horrible OC.
Kyler missed another wide open receiver for a TD yesterday
Jennings (again) was wide open – it was right after Jones got his knee bent the wrong way.
I had to look it up, Kyler is 36th in the league in average passing yards per game with an average of 162.4 yards per game. Bo Nix is over 180 yards per game and he went a whole game last week without throwing the ball more than 2 yards.
Also Jennings should have caught that one for a TD. Jets and Addy would have for sure.
Was he behind the OL? Midget can’t see over average sized people.
I think he closes his eyes when he throws the ball, his midgetness makes him have to throw the ball in a strange way to get it over the line and then it’s all hope….. if he isn’t running/moving and getting out of the pocket, he’s just NOT GOOD!!!
I’m not a football coach, but maybe run some designed roll outs then.
hmmm, seems like it might be worth a try…. but I’m not a coach either
I’m full of conflict because of the offense, but we are winning, so that is good. How many other years have we not gone 6-0?
The stats are quite offensive.
Myles Price with a great kickoff return – first thing in the game, and the offense goes 4 and out and turns it over on downs despite being within FG range (56 yard attempt), and then the Colts move the chains and score on a 38 yard run up the middle.
So special teams can strike any time, which is great, but the Vikings defense seems to warm up over the course of the game, and the offense sputters throughout, although there always seem to be a few drives with multiple 1st downs that allow for FGs.
The problem is weathering the storm, and while they’ve managed to do it against some notably inferior teams (with a fair bit of luck mixed in), they really need some consistent, reliable offense to stand a decent chance against good teams.
I have no idea why KOC didn’t kick the FG there after basically conceding getting the first down (like an idiot).
They need to finish drives.
yup, good way to put it
but but but
our system is complicated and the giants offense is for dum-dums
plus murray was picked higher, and the cardinals are the reason he didnt succeed
Spilled milk.
Agreed, but it does not change the fact that this team has been clamoring for a long term solution, and let one walk away for a 5th rounder.
Maybe JJ never becomes a viable NFL starting QB. But we know Kyler is paid 50 million to leave AZ because after 7+ seasons they had seen enough.
10 starts is not enough.
All of that is true. But from most readings the problem was KOC and JJ did not get along and JJ would not do things KOC told him to do. Maybe a personality conflict, don’t really know, but in most jobs in life if you don’t do what the boss tells you to do, you’re asking for big problems.
Still, JJ maybe turn out to be a fine NFL QB.
And the selection of Kyler to run KOC’s pocket QB offense is very puzzling.
Maybe JJ didn’t want to do certain things because he realized KOC is not the offensive genius he’s drummed up to be. KOC should stick to the head coach role which i think he’s very good at and let somebody else run the offense. It can’t get much worse.
Maybe JJ (QB) just needed to pull his head out of his ass and it took trading him to another team for a 5th round pick to be the laxative that he needed??
Lol – that was very well worded.
Maybe JJ did know better, but the boss usually always wins and has the final say.
That’s snark, right? Or is it sass?
Whole bunch of sass… he’s a Sass-whole.
And here we have been lectured for years about ‘stats are for losers’.
I guess that only those stats that a certain former QB got.
Hitman got his 40th INT! That made me smile. The announcers didn’t talk about it like I thought they would, but oh well. I’m sure Paul Allen had plenty to say. I’ll listen to highlights with his calls later today, probably.
https://www.vikings.com/news/harrison-smith-40th-career-interception-win-over-colts-2026
(linked up top, too – thanks JV!)
Too bad he has already forgotten it happened…
After the interception, I loved how he took the ball and ran to the 40-yard line, where he then slammed the ball down on the number 40. Pretty cool!
That was awesome. I’m really surprise that no one on the tv broadcast even mentioned it. They are often full of useless stats and this was a significant stat that they just ignored.
yeah, the CBS team did not impress, but at least I didn’t have to listen to Jonathan Vilma
QOTD, nba sucks
mahomes sucks, cut him
who exactly is Darrell Woodson, perhaps the love child of Darrell Green and Charles Woodson?
the Vikings won and came out relatively unscathed. They obviously need to pick it up offensively and it goes beyond the QB but more decisiveness would help at QB.
Fixed it. I was thinking Darrell Green.
The Vikes string the wins along to one more game.
The next six games are kind of a big deal. The offense will need to score some real point totals.
Weren’t the last six games a big deal as well
Sure, but not as big a deal. The average DVOA (defense-adjusted value over average) of our previous six opponents is -12.9%, and the avg DVOA of the next six opponents is 13.2%. That’s like going 6-0 against the 25th ranked team in the league (IND) and then having to play the 8th best team in the league (BAL) for six games. (data is through week 6)
Granted, the same metric ranks the Vikings 6th (18.6%), but seeing how we’ve squeaked past the previous opponents, I’m not confident we’re going to start suddenly playing better.
Anything’s possible, though.
Oh no, we are the underdog vs the Loins next week, -3.5.
Just like the last two times we played them and won.
Stats are for losers I was told.
I’d rather be 6-0 going into this stretch than 0-6. But, yes, our offense needs to start finishing drives.
If they just go 3-3 over the next 6, they will be at 9 wins with 5 games left to play and they end the year with some very winnable games.
But then again, Vikings could do Viking things
I feel like 3-3 is the reasonable (barely) ceiling over the next 6
at Detroit shouldn’t be easy
Hosting Buffalo, not easy
at FTP, never a gimme
at SanFran? Almost a guaranteed loss
but the hosting the Falcons and Carolina both feel winnable, although The Falcons just beat the 49ers and Carolina is sneaky good
I see 4 straight losses, then 1 or 2 wins hosting ATL/CAR
7-5 feels a little more likely than 8-4 to me. 9-3 would be a surprise, but not crazy.
The SF game is in Mexico I believe so that helps. They’ll win at least one of the two between Detroit and GB.
both DET and FTP are away games though, I can see losing both. This whole 3 FGs or more and maybe one TD stuff isn’t going to be enough in Detroit.
Detroit looks pretty beatable, SF is beat up, FTP (they don’t seem to have the refs on their side), Buffalo is going to be an embarrassment, and I think they beat both Carolina and ATL.
so 11-1 is within reach, you think?
Unlikely but not impossible.
Seems doable.
Victory Monday, and doubly nice ‘cuz FTP lost.
Lotta people on the. “We should have kept JJM” bandwagon. I am too. Two main reasons.
1. 10 games is not enough to evaluate a young player
2. Trading him for a 5th, was almost like cutting him.
But it was a decision, and harping on it will NOT change anything.
I am just looking forward, one week at a time. Beating Detroit would be huge, as it gives a solid footing in most tie-breakers, if it comes to that. We have had 4 turnovets in 6 games, that has been the key. Gotta keep it up
I agree with everything you said. Harping on the stupid decision will not change a thing.
Still, that is my brand.
JJ was not given enough of a chance
Kirko still sucks
SLOTERGOAT
Teddy
I am so very tired of this team completely messing up the QB position.
I wonder if it was a locker room thing, where JJ was not playing nice with Kyler?
Whatever happens this season, the defense is a lot of fun to watch.
When the Vikings decide to sign Kyler to a long term deal, I will do something else vs watching football. I bailed after 2010 until Zim/Teddy, and I am already feeling the same about this team even though they are undefeated. No faith in Murray or KOC.
I have read that there was a riff between Kyler and JJ, but it sounded more like it was Murray had an issue.
Yeah, pretty similar story here. I was really, really hoping to see significant improvement from Murray yesterday, but nope. And I don’t trust KOC to handle playoff games.
If our offense (meaning Kyler) doesn’t show considerable improvement over the next stretch of games, he won’t be re-signed.
No faith in KOC? He’s 48-25 during regular season and we’ve won 11 straight games that count going back to last season. I really don’t get the hate towards him. He’s the best coach this team has had since Bud.
Logic is difficult for some, feelings are easier.
With no playoff success, it is hard for me to get on board with that sentiment.
As a “QB Whisperer” his track record is not good. As an Offense minded head coach, the lack of production on that side of the ball is very discerning.
The simple fact that the team is unable to score TDs at a higher rate against below average teams is telling. He is either unwilling to change his scheme to match the talent, or the talent is just not there.
Right now he is no better than Zim or Denny, imo.
Without B-Flo, this team would be in complete rebuild mode.
I am with vikesfanincheesland on this! (but not on the midterms….)
KOC is a hell of a coach…I feel he has done the best he can in his years here with a flawed roster. I get the whole “lack of playoff wins” thing, and I get today’s “if you are not winning you are losing mentality”, but he is indeed the best coach we have had since Bud Grant.
Ha, got a chuckle on the midterms thing. I hate to say it, but seriously thinking about not participating this time. Our governor spot up for grabs, and I’m not moved by either one of them.
They’ve been wins, but the 5 wins last year were against the 5-12 Commies, the 7-9 Cowgirls, the 4-13 Gnats, the 9-8 Loins, and the 9-7-1 FTPs.
Our 6 wins this season were against the 4-3 FTPs, the 5-2 Bores, the 2-5 Bucs, the 1-5 Fish, the 2-5 Aints, the 2-5 Colts.
Those 11 wins are more like participation ribbons. Had they all been against playoff caliber teams you’d have a better point.
But how many times have the Vikings had games against some cupcake teams and went out and had an embarrassing loss? I’m not saying KOC is great, but at least our team is winning. It feels nice.
‘Had they all been against playoff caliber teams you’d have a better point’
I believe that multiple of those teams were in the last playoff.
And it is true that if you keep beating teams those teams will have a worse record.
I disagree with the participation take. The schedule is what it is, can’t change/control that. Any given Sunday.