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It is Tuesday. What is your favorite QB doing today?
Minneapolis allegedly hosting the 2028 NFL draft. Big nothing for me, but some people enjoy that. I guess if the team really sucks and has a top 5 pick, it could be entertaining. Still not interested in fighting that crowd and $20 beers. I will say, the NFL is good at making money.
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Beware – golf story. Just got back from playing nine.
So go to the range to hit a few balls first. It’s hot, no one there. Pick the next to last spot on right. Hit a few, look up and a small group of Asians walk up next to me. One was carrying a large pro bag and a couple guys had cameras.
Oh well, hit a few more, look over and Hideki Matsuyama is standing there. dressed exactly like he was going to a tour event.
He starts hitting and this is what amazed me. He had a coach, two cameramen (side and back), caddie and I guess a towel boy. But after every single shot, they would study every aspect of the swing and make even the smallest of adjustments. The drive for precision was simply amazing. It is no wonder these guys at this level are so good.
Interestingly, after I played nine drove by the range and he was still there with his group practicing – and it was hot.
And by the way, I was tryin g to do my absolute best to not look like a complete fool standing there hitting shots besides one of the best ball strikers in the worlld.
Wow… very cool. I would have probably said something like “Hideki, let me show you what you’re doing wrong”. To get a laugh. Then I would let him know I thought he was really great.
Well worth the 30 min watch from an actual veteran and someone iv watched gun videos on since I was in a young teen. Take what he is saying and apply it as a solider now with the shit storm our leaders have put us in with our shitty foreign policy not only now and but the past decades.
I was in the war. I served with plenty of people who were real unhappy about it, and disagreed with it. Don’t know what this video is on about. Might watch, might not. My singular point is everyone has a point of view and an opinion.
Then maybe you should click play and watch before commenting. Couldn’t care less, its posted for everyone to see, not just you. Everyone does have a point of view and opinion. But human morality is universal.
I understand that. I haven’t watched it, and I likely won’t. War is an ugly thing, and until you actually participate in it, and do ugly things to other people, you don’t really know how that affects you. It’s truly an individual response. Killing someone is a terrible thing. It makes you question who you are and what you’re doing. That is the normal human effect. You will always question your own and others morality eventually. It’s a reckoning I hope you never have to go through.
For all here, I strongly suggest you read Sowell’s book Black Redneck’s and White Liberals. It’s a series of essays on several different topics.
Sowell’s first essay, which shares the book’s title, begins with this provocative quote:
“These people are creating a terrible problem in our cities. They can’t or won’t hold a job, they flout the law constantly and neglect their children, they drink too much and their moral standards would shame an alley cat. For some reason or other, they absolutely refuse to accommodate themselves to any kind of decent, civilized life.”
Sowell continues: “This was said in 1956 in Indianapolis, not about blacks or other minorities, but about poor whites from the South… A 1951 survey in Detroit found that white Southerners living there were considered ‘undesirable’ by 21 percent of those surveyed, compared to 13 percent who ranked blacks the same way”
Sowell’s main thesis in this essay is that what we know today as “black culture” is actually “white redneck culture” or “cracker culture” which “originated not in the South but in those parts of the British Isles from which white Southerners came. That culture long ago died out where it originated in Britain, while surviving in the American South. Then it largely died out among both white and black Southerners, while still surviving today in the poorest and worst of the urban black ghettos.”
Heard he’s going to run for President, so he has to stop playing and get his campaign going.
Just what we need, more douches in politics.
And wakkie too – will fit right in.
Sharron Rodgers says he is officially retiring after this season.
My youngest is 9 now, this is his first year of kid-pitch baseball. Not sure how the rules run elsewhere, but if the opposing pitcher throws 4 balls, I get to step in and throw to our batter to finish his at-bat. (they can strike out, but can’t walk at this stage).
I have mixed emotions – I’m leading the league in strike outs!
Congrats!!!!
Just rifle an 88 mph fast ball in there lol
Brush back!!
Oh boy, Cuba here we come!
Ehhhh, it is just paperwork.
Doubt that they are going to do a Maduro like snatch, Castro isn’t that important any more.
Trump… finding ways to free whole countries, one dictator at a time.
Read Thomas Sowell… the truth shall set you free.
Plenty of baddies in the country. Read Thomas Sowell. One of the most brilliant minds of our times.
OK Northwoods, I plead ignorance on your messaging here. Are you calling me an idiot?
Thats the name of the show
Absolutely not, and sorry for making you think that.
The movie referenced is based on the premise that each generation becomes stupider than the previous. If you haven’t seen it, I do recommend it.
They released it and it went almost directly to shelf because of how reflective of society it was……..’scary true.’
I just thought the movie parallels the quote nicely.
OK thanks. I was definitely not tracking. Appreciate the explanation.
Electrolytes…. it’s what the plants need!
What things are “teachers” collective, not just some odd outlier, please tell me what super lies are ALL these teachers teaching…? I’ll wait because this is a bunch of scare tactic bullshit.
The Teacher (aka my wife) just retired after 25 years of teaching in SoCal.
She can compile a list for you but I doubt you will believe it or instead play the ‘both sides do it’ card.
She taught reading to 1st graders but after all of the DEI/Woke/BS she had inserted into the schedule she had less that two hours a day to teach the kids to read. And then the wondered why the school, the district, the state, the nation had such low reading and math scores.
Abraham Lincoln once said, “The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.” This is what’s happening in America today. I am deeply concerned by the dangerous philosophy that believes the state—not the parents—should be the primary educator on gender, sexuality, and racial issues.
The most visible failure though is academic performance. As of February 2026, the latest NAEP results publicly available are from 2024, those results show reading and math performance remaining below 2019 levels, with continued challenges in both subjects and uneven recovery across grades. Our children learn less every year.
The current educational framework has shifted away from its traditional goals of knowledge transmission and cognitive skill development. Instead, it focuses on fostering self-esteem and social harmony, which undermines academic rigor.
Students are also being taught to be activists and teachers are taking them out of the classroom to protest. This is called indoctrination and specifically anti American sentiments, antisemitic positions, and gender ideology are the focus.
I actually agree with you on this 100%
Sowell observed that facts and critical thinking have taken a back seat to indoctrination and activism in schools:
“We are raising whole generations who’ve come to regard facts as optional. We have kids in elementary school who are urged to take stands on political issues, to write letters to congressman and the president about nuclear energy…They are taught that it’s important to have views and they’re not being taught that it’s important to know what you’re talking about, that it’s important to listen to the opposite viewpoint. And more important how to distinguish how view point A and viewpoint B are different, and which one has the most evidence or logic behind it.”
“The very thought that the dogmas they [teachers] were repeating with such fervor might be open to question or subject to evidence seemed never to have occurred to them. This was a far more ominous sign than their merely being wrong on particular beliefs. How can they teach anybody else to think if they themselves have not reached this elementary level of logic? By ‘thinking’ too many educators today mean teaching children to reject traditions in favor of their own emotional responses. Objections to such propaganda programs are called objections to letting children think. Anything less than a blank check for indoctrination is called ‘censorship.’”
“In light of such non-academic activities in our public schools, it can hardly be surprising that American youngsters do so badly on academic tests administered to youngsters around the world. Nor is it surprising that academic work is so readily abandoned for social experiments, ideological crusades and psychological manipulations by educators whose own academic performances have long been shown to be substandard.”
“This is yet another way of getting away from academic work and indulging in psychological and ideological indoctrination. This is called advancing beyond ‘rote learning’ and teaching school children to ‘think.’”
Sowell’s research clearly showed that indoctrinating our children into an ideological view was more important than teaching them anything of use.
For those who enjoy properly made cocktails such as myself. Why the Olive in the Martini? Time to learn.
I can’t open this up at work, so I’ll guess – it’s like giving a dog a pill in a gob of cheese…..that’s the only way they’ll swallow it?
Haha not a fan of olives? No, history starts with the Martini being a more complex and sweeter drink and garnished with a cocktail cherry, and as the drink evolved over the years and the types and amounts of gin and vermouth changed, the sweet cherry clashed with the dry/herbal/savoryness of the drink and somewhere along the line, probably in New York City win the late 1890s someone started adding an olive to compliment the drink more and the rest is history.
I too am not a fan of olives! But there are plenty of things I am not a fan of by themselves but taste good in a mix of things ya know? But I love a good cocktail! Very informative, thanks!
LOL. About the only ones I like are the Habanero stuffed olives.
I only liked black olives (I dont see color) when I was a kid now I enjoy mostly all of them. I dont like cheese stuffed ones though. Habanero sounds good.
Olives are great… you guys are all WRONG!
I have a mixed marriage… my wife loves olives… I can’t stand them.
They say that’s how most marriages are. We discussed this at a recent wedding reception. My wife and I both love them, though (the exception to the rule apparently)
We used to use that joke about football. We’d tell people (like a barber or something) we were in a mixed marriage. She’s a Ravens fan, and I’m a Vikings fan.
The Teacher and I would go to Angels/Twins game with her in an Angels jersey and me rocking the Twins.
It always got some comments/responses.
Correct!
I actually have green and black olives as my evening snack once a week. Very healthy.
Green Olives = bad, Black Olives = Good.
The Teacher thinks backwards however.
Okay, too early to argue with a brick wall. FOOTBALL TALK TIME. I’m glad BFlo is our DC, however I think his lawsuit is a bit much, and crying he wasn’t hired for racial reasons is the incorrect way to approach it and I feel its not the reason he was passed up. I also think the Rooney rule needs to not be a thing. This is a nepo issue, you scratch my back I scratch yours, or I only hire my friends etc. issue and not a race issue imo. If you are good at your job and prove you can win, a team is going to hire you in 2026. Period. Now, teams bringing in someone just to check the box on the Rooney rule is absolutely happening but thats not because they are racist, its because any DEI rule is stupid and they want to hire whoever they think is best. Paying to tank is also a whole other issue.
Completely agree.
BFlo not getting that job was NOT a race issue.
If you want to get promoted – be great at your job and people will be fighting for your services.
‘NOT a race issue’
I am willing to let the courts decide. There are lots and lots of skeletons in the closet. I don’t have a dog in this fight so I am willing to sit back and eat popcorn and enjoy the show.
I agree, I am thinking there are lots of dirty laundry that is hush-hush but well known to those close to it but to us is well hidden. I have wondered if this whole thing is excessive too BUT BFlo feels he needs to do this to help and represent the whole of the situation where many who are still working up the ranks won’t say anything as they feel powerless to say anything.
As I recall, The Giants wanted Diebold and I believe The owner told Belickick who told Flores who was going to be interviewed because of the Rooney Rule.
How is that racist?
The ‘Rooney Rule’ is based on race.
As is DEI and “quota rules.”
I’m for hiring the “best” qualified candidate.
Now if you don’t take the best because of their race, that’s racist
This ^ Exactly. I get it, there’s pieces of shit out there that do discriminate but its few and far between, and in a company the size of the NFL that has African Americans employed at every level and phase I very much doubt in 2026 people ARENT hiring because of the color of someone’s skin. And forcing a rule to just check a box is stupid and pointless, and its why the Broncos and Giants did what they did.
I agree with this as well.
If I recall correctly, and I might not – been hit in the head a lot.
Giants hired Daboll – Belichek got wind and meant to text Daboll congratulations and mistakenly texted Flores – who had not yet been interviewed by New York.
I believe his issue was that the Giants front office decided that they were going to hire Daboll before they interviewed Flores. Belicik texted Flo congratulations thinking he was texting Daboll.
I think his initial thought/goal was that the NFL or some teams would pay a settlement to make the suit/him go away. When it didn’t happen, he has no other option than to double down and continue looking for a payday. Knowing nearly 80% of the league’s players are non-white, the thought that racism is keeping him from being a coach is ludicrous. There are many non-white coaches and coordinators across the league, so I think he is still hoping for settlement, knowing he probably can’t win on merits. And I think that’s precisely why the NFL hasn’t settled.
I won’t presuppose to know his motivations, but he is certainly “all in” on his position. Whether he feels he is pursuing personal retribution or reparations, or speaking for a broader group he believes have been discriminated against, he’s not backing down, or changing his tune. Right, wrong, good, or bad.
This could very well be, and not something I considered.
Hey everybody, I have a great idea. Let’s have fewer games for your home fans to attend, and go overseas. Season ticket holders won’t mind at all.
Goodell
If the owners voted for it then they figured it will help them in the pocketbook, fans be dammed.
Thats how its been for…what over 20 years in the league, damn the fans?
I remember one of the biggest selling points for the new stadium was how out of town money is worth more than in town money. Like that’s a big revenue piece you are taking away from local commerce too!
That’s a very salient point Edge.
I wish international games weren’t a thing. If they like the product so much, make them come to our country and support OUR cities and local businesses.
I mean, I don’t mind it being like a couple games, and you can’t get asked to do more than 1 other than every 5 years or some shit so it doesn’t hurt the local ticket holders and local businesses. Question, do season ticket holders get money back for basically losing a game? I’d guess not.
I believe they do get a discount for the season, if their team plays a home game overseas. I don’t understand why it can’t be an away game for both teams.
I’m genuinely surprised lol
Thats fair. Its just getting out of hand imo, and quickly
Crazy how many anti-fan policies and decisions this league has made and is making the last five years or so.
I have never been this detached from the NFL. I really find myself not caring even if the Vikings do well. It’s totally new territory for me.
I still want the Vikings to do well, although I seldom expect it.
I am more invested in watching the enemies fail in spectacular fashion, ie FTP, Cowpatties, Poopeaters, etc, etc.
Well you’re not alone. I didn’t watch the Super Bowl last year, or any of the playoff games. Every year I lose more and more interest in the woke NFL, and its ridiculous changes. Can’t have a surprise onsides kick anymore. Oh no. You can only try that if you tell the ref’s who then advise the other team, so everyone can line up the way they used to. Bullshit calls like taunting are stupid too. All that bullshit virtue signaling as well. You know all those military support events? Yeah the DoW pays the NFL for all those things. It’s PR for the military, so the league charges them. The league is bullshit, and starting to resemble the WWE. More entertainment than sport.
And this is the biggest thing ruining the game today and will be the eventual downfall of the country’s most popular sport.
Allowing all of the rampant betting will eat away at the watchability and trustworthiness of the game. It’s tough not to see how the games are influenced these days. All in the name of “entertainment.”
They seem to have the arrogance that US automakers had in the 60’s and 70’s.
We’ll keep putting out expensive cars with lots of defects, break down a lot, and you’ll have to buy a new one every three years or so.
Something always comes along – especially to those who don’t work hard at taking care of their customers.
Women’s beach volleyball comes to mind.
This is a 1%er problem. The ones that can afford season tickets can also afford to go to Mexico for the game.
Well my brother had Redskins tickets back in the day, and he wouldn’t be able to fly overseas to watch any game. He was a computer programmer and made good money, but he wasn’t rich. He just lived well within his means.
The weather makes me think it is time for football. It is May 20, and I am still running around in a stocking hat in the morning.
We are supposed to get a few more days of cool, then a few days in the 90s and then a cool snap again. Getting a little whiplash here.
Lucky you. It’s already close to 90 here with a ton of humidity.
Was 92 here yesterday, and yes humid.
After multiple assignments in Alabama and Eastern Texas I do not miss the humidity at all.
‘Oh The Humidity!!’
Laughing… well played!
Where are you located? Today is our 4th (and last) day of 90s. Had a nice thunderstorm yesterday evening, and rain scheduled next 24 hrs….we really need it
JR is near Orlando. I’m West of him, about 35 miles North of Tampa.
I used to work for a company based in St Pete. I had to go there once a month, loved it, except for the summer months
We’re about 45 minutes to St Pete, and 45 minutes to Orlando. So we are pretty nicely situated. Love St Pete and Clearwater. Beaches are great, some great restaurants too. We have stayed at the Vanoy in St Pete as a “stay-cation” a few times.
Orlando, Florida.
It’s always time for football! It’s never time for boring basketball, baseball etc… Let’s not even count golf, it’s not a sport it’s a sports adjacent hobby for old folks. lol
95 here yesterday.
Rec for Happy Dancing Wednesday Gif.
Morning JV. Rec for first on Wednesday.
He might not ever get another job in the league.
Perfect, he is going to be a life long Viking!!
Sort of looks like it to me.
Why is he even doing this?
He sees a ‘wrong’ in how the NFL conducts Coaching hires and wants to see it fixed plus getting some payback due to how he was treated in Miami.
For sure there was a “preselection” when he didn’t get the job – but race was not the issue.
‘race was not the issue.’
It sure is with the ‘Rooney Rule’.
Great question. No idea. Biting the hand that feeds you sort of deal here to me.
Can’t wait for STHTF if KOC fires him OR KOC gets fired.
Now that’s funny!
Yes it is, and anyone down voting it is a bit of a clown and a Government boot licker imo. Critical thought and looking in the mirror needs to happen.
Laughing… kettle… pot…
Whose boots am I licking. No ones. I understand the brainwashed usually dont know they are brainwashed so…I just feel sad for you at this point. Thats okay, time will prove me right.
You downvote people all the time, and act out like a little girl. Now you tell full grown adults not to downvote something or they’re some sort of ignorant shills. You’re completely laughable. Grow up son, and stay on the porch.
You know I agree with Fkey some here; the world needs more critical thinking.
But in this case, even “half brain” thinking will do – who calls the game when its still the third quarter.
‘the world needs more critical thinking.’
I think we can all agree on that part.
Its over. There was never anything to gain in Iran and there never will be. And if you fall for the “THEY WERE GONNA NUKE US” schtick Idk what to tell you. Fall for WMDs, fall for this. Its the same play book 20 years later. Did we really learn nothing?
Here’s what I fall for – Iran has in there constitution “death to America.” They have killed over a 1000 Americans that we know of, provided all those little mines in the Irag War that mammed so many of our guys, and are the number one funder of terrorest activities in the world.. So I believe that. The WWD;s are a side show, they are going to continue to kill Americans.
‘they are going to continue to kill Americans’
As long as the radicals are in charge they will yes.
And no better way to kill ‘Infidels’ then with a nuke so they will continue to working on getting those if they can.
Not accepting that the Iranian Islamic Regime will do whatever they can to destroy the U.S. and Israel along with anyone else they deem worthy of destruction is about as ignorant a take as there can be. History clearly shows this is a vicious regime that kills its own citizens by the tens of thousands. Hangs them on the streets in public, and tells the world “you’re next”. There is a long list of attacks on the U.S. if you ever care to invest the time and look it up. Still every other President has done nothing about it for over 40 years, and now we have a real President taking them down.
Well so far the Dem’s have been wrong on Trump every single time. Not once have they told us anything they warned us about come to pass JR. Trump was right all along on COVID and the shots. He was right about tariff’s too. Remember the chicken little howling that came up and the left told us he was going to cause a depression? Nope. He was right about the border security issue. Biden said he needed new legislation, Trump said we just needed a new President. The Dem’s scream to abolish ICE and defund the police. Trump backs the Blue, and law and order. No other President in the last 40 years has done anything about Iran. All of them told us they had to be stopped. None of them had the balls to do it. Oh by the way, the world climate change folks just admitted that climate change isn’t going to destroy the planet after years of fearmongering. Trump was right again. Over, and over, and over. Trump is right, the Dem’s are wrong. I could gone on, and on, and on. At every turn we find the lefts corruption, lies, deceit, and fraud. They have two objectives, destroy Trump and destroy the country.
Lol just like you cried yesterday that I was attacking you like a little bitch? Right, im acting out like a girl. POT meet the biggest Kettle. Get over yourself you cant handle someone doesn’t agree with your Government glazing. Sorry im not pro needless war and pro Americans dying. Get off the internet for a while and take a break. Turn that Pentagon Black Berry phone off and go golfing.
No, I just stated the facts. I don’t whine like a little girl like you.
Lots of boot lickin happens around here.
Man this seeing others posting this stuff after literal years of me getting trashed for being critical of BOTH sides is a breath of fresh air.
I would buy what you say except I trust my eyes.
I “see” you put about an once of weight against liberal/progressive views while dropping a sledge hammer on conservative ones.
‘ about an once of weight against liberal/progressive views’
Well the sheep’s clothing weighs a lot less than the wolf itself does.
There’s a reason for this, this place is just DRIPPING with the saliva of conservative boot licking. So that’s why, it’s almost entirely the right can do no wrong and the left can do no right (lol) around here. My libby friends honest to goodness think I am a big time conservative because I challenge their stances a lot.
So where do you “really” stand?
It’s OK even smart to challenge positions from both sides, but one still needs to stand somewhere.
That’s fair. I mean on what subject? Lol. There are some things I stand on either side. I was once VERY libertarian but some of those ideals have worn off as kind of overly idealistic. My stances also change because I can and will be swayed by good arguments and changing data. I really don’t want to just dig my heels in like many of these MAGA folks who use to be actual conservatives now they have abandoned those principals for whatever Orange Daddy Deity says is gospel. Again, I am still not sold the shit show Trump has been this term would have been any better with Harris. What a disaster that would have been.
Read Thomas Sowell. One of the most brilliant minds of our times.
“ANYONE who studies the history of ideas should notice how much more often people on the political left, more so than others, denigrate and demonize those who disagree with them – instead of answering their arguments.”
Thomas Sowell
ANYONE who watches any kind of political discourse now-a-days can see how this happens on both sides all the time. Most people no longer stand on principal. They just dig their heels in to defend their political identity. It’s what made Dems continue to deny the attacks from the right of a sleepy Joe Biden and it’s what makes Republicans now ignore that we have a sleepy Trump. Like Trump has for sure done some good things, no doubt, but there has been some very questionable things especially this 2nd term. It is nice, starting to see more and more Republicans start to actually think and act like Republicans rather than brain washed MAGA drones.
‘sleepy Trump’???
You can disagree with what he does all you want but it takes some real TDS to call him ‘sleepy’ after 4 years of ‘Brandon’.
I’m sorry Edge but as Sowell says, anyone who STUDIES the history of ideas rationally and reasonably will completely disagree with your commentary here that “both sides” conduct themselves exactly the same. It’s not a truth at all.
All this talk about your favorite QB and you can’t even mention the only Vikings QB in the HOF? Shees…
What a bunch of losers….
Sir Francis….an absolute dude.
Shouldn’t really be any debate if you know Vikings history.
I prefer Joe Kapp.
He had a shorter run due to contract dispute but he was one tough hombre.
Hard to beat Kapp in terms of toughness and grit. dude couldn’t throw a spiral to save his life.
And yet he is still tied for most TD passes in a game at 7. Against the then defending NFL champion Baltimore Colts no less.
That was the first NFL game i ever sae. I was hooked on the Vikes ever since. Of course i was only 10 or so
That was the year I got hooked as well. Although being in SoCal I couldn’t see very many games since there was no cable or internet back in the day.
40 for 60
Yep after the 1969 season he was voted the team MVP, but refused the award, saying, “There is no one most valuable Viking. There are 40 most valuable Vikings
Fran is the best.
Several others hit long before Kirko.
Rice tested positive for marijuana, violating the 5-year probation from his July 2025 sentencing for a 2024 Dallas high-speed crash, resulting in an immediate order to serve 30 days in jail.
Let’s trade them Justin Jefferson for a boat load of draft picks
Wonder what he will get for the next violation?
I mean not that I consider athletes intellectual or common sense giants, but you’re on a 5 year probation, and that comes with mandatory drug testing, and you decide to smoke weed? Now you’re in jail for 30 days. Any chance at all that he won’t be back there soon?
FYI
Someone else can post threads for a while. I am taking a much needed break and will not be around until end of next week.
Kirk still sucks
Stay out of jail.
We will for sure be going the Tampa Game, have the tickets, have the plane fair. Pretty excited….Maybe we can meet pre-game and you can buy me a beer.
Would love that!
We shall touch base as it gets closer….by brother in law and his wife will be along as well – he is not as nice as I am, but he is retired military, and a rock-ribbed conservative so I am sure we would all get along.
Sounds great. Depending on your schedule, might be nice to eat at the Columbia in Ybor City. Not sure where your hotel is, but probably not too far.
We haven’t got a hotel yet. I will let you know!
Perfect
Enjoy your vacay and memorial day! Hopefully the weather will be nice where you’re at!
Can KOC just install Madden plays on the offense to get the most out of Murray?
Aren’t madden plays pulled from actual play books already? Or?
I don’t know.
All I know is Murray spends more time gaming than reading the playbook.
I would guess early on they were, now it’s just generic plays and concepts that they just recycle. EA Sports does not do any sort of research or game enhancement/improvement if I know them at all…
For sure. Sadly im well aware. Which is why im famous on here for boycotting any Madden game until EA gives up the rights to it but them and the NFL are nice and cuddly together so I doubt that will happen
Yep, I agree. Pretty much all EA sports games are just roster updates year to year with tons of glitches and more microtransaction BS. They never fix anything and often make things worse.
Yes. Madden playbooks are taken from real NFL playbooks and concepts.
Dumbed down, not nearly as intricate and nuanced – but they’ve gotten progressively more detailed as the game has aged. Used to be just basic concepts and routes – now you see more option routes based on coverages, hot routes, etc.
Where the game has really evolved is with what you can do in audible packages – changing everything from the blocking assignments to route combinations.
Fun tool to use to teach the game to youngsters – I use it with my nephew all the time.
That is what I figured but I haven’t played it in 11 years. My nephew is going to be 8 and only has a demo of the game right now and one controller. I plan on getting him the full game and another controller for his Bday.
Should install the 8 plays from Super techmo bowl
What’s your favorite QB doing today?:
My all time favorite quarterback is currently strolling the practice fields in Valhalla. No doubt appreciating the sun and wildlife as he did as a young boy growing up in Goodland, Kansas – after moving there from his birthplace of Scottsbluff, Nebraska (and having a tiny Husker helmet placed in his crib at birth)
That quarterback is Brook Berringer – Husker legend. I’m convinced he would’ve been a 10 year NFL vet had he lived. Instead, on April 18, 1996 he took one last flight as an amateur pilot. His soul never touched the ground. RIP.
My all time favorite non-Vikings QB? Jake Delhomme. Loved this guy. His career numbers are so so but this guy was tough, and could lead a team.
My all time favorite Vikings quarterback? Probably gotta go with Favre (especially if we’re talking just one season) If it’s a homegrown Vikings QB I’m going with Daunte Culpepper (despite the tiny hands and how it ended)
SKOL
I liked him a lot as well, Frazier was a better college QB but brooks would have been a better pro, RIP.
My all time favorite is Elway.
Loved me some Elway as well.
I thought Elway was great. Was really happy when he finally came up a winner in a Super Bowl.
Now I’ll set the whiners off. Cousins is 15th in career passing TD’s all-time. He’s only 2 behind Elway for 14th.
In 50 fewer games.
He’s also 2 Super Bowl rings (and 5 total appearances) behind Elway as well
impressive TD numbers though.
Everybody knows you only play football to score TDs. Winning championships means nothing.
Everybody knows teams win championships. A team needs a QB that can put up TD’s and execute long, time consuming drives that keep the other teams offense on the sideline. That was what Cousins has always done. So yeah, 298 TD’s in 50 fewer games than Elway? That’s impressive. Unfortunately the reality is, there’s 52 other guys that a team must have to win championships. Note how Mahomes could only muster 9 points in the Super Bowl against the Bucs, when most of his O-line was injured in the playoffs. Without his O-line, his offense was tepid. That’s the way in works in the real world.
Elway didn’t win a Super Bowl till Shanahan built a defense and a running game to carry him across the finish line. Elway will always be a legendary QB, but teams win championships. The Orange Crush was legendary too.
Yeah, they carried a geriatric elway, he carried some pretty ok not great teams to several SBs in his prime. He was a tough some of a bitch though, at almost 40 he was still throwing his body in harms way and getting helicoptered.
Yeah, Elway was a great competitor. He put it all on the line every play.
Yeah I often wonder what guys like elway would do in todays nfl, game was run based back in the 80’s and 90’s, he often butted heads with Reeves on offensive philosophy. He’s didn’t really have a #1 WR until Rod Davis came along, he did have Shannon sharpe too later in his career
Shanahan did a great job putting that team together. He understood that a great defense, coupled with a strong running game, was necessary to take advantage of Elway’s swashbuckling QB play. I loved watching Elway. He was just a guy who competed his ass off on every play.
That’s what I remember most about him
Yep. For much of his career he was throwing to the likes of Vance Johnson, Mark Jackson, Ricky Nattiel, Sammy Winder, Bobby Humphrey…. Not exactly an all star cast.
Sharpe later in his career along with Easy Ed McCaffrey and Rod Smith – and a great running game really rounded that team out. Great defense too.
Winder was ok, Humphrey had a minute before he ruined his career holding out, the receivers he had before rod and Christian’s dad were #3 caliber players. They did have some decent defenses sitting that time though, always liked Mecklenburg, former gopher
Mecklenburg, Simon Fletcher, Tyrone Braxton….
Loved Atwater – still remember his stonewalling of Okoye on MNF
hmmm what is tom brady up to today?
whatever super rich, handsome, smart people do
Just your friendly reminder that the Beatles suck
Help! I need somebody! Help! Not just anybody! Help! You know I need someone! Help!!!
I do love while my guitar gently weeps, it’s a banger, I like Eddie Vetters cover of you’ve got to hide your love away. Also sing along to Ben folds cover of golden slumbers with my daughters at bedtime. But I can’t stand the majority of their songs.
Fair. The Beatles are the most covered band of all time BTW. By a wide margin I believe. So there’s that.
They are definitely influential, not my cup of tea but I’m sure a lot musicians I like were influenced.
My wife grew up a Metal Head. We’re very different. Grin.
i was recently on a road trip with my dad. he’s 70. he must have just found out how to search youtube for stories about songs. he wanted me to listen to the story of “here comes the sun” and how it was made, layered etc…
it was like 11 minutes long and almost the entire time i was thinking about how you would have jumped out of the truck that was going 75mph
lol, I would have, but cherish the times have with him, it’s really going to suck when he’s gone, like way more than you think.
which is why i let him “show me” that and listened to it with him haha
Such a great performance. George Harrison’s son was really digging Prince. Love this video.
Love the KDS. He hasn’t played for the Vikings for a couple years and people can’t stop talking about him. Rent free.
Helped JJ and Theilen set records and all he gets is hate and no respect. Everyone saw how great JJ was last year with garbage QB play. Anyway, Kirk’s smiling all the way to the bank…
Have to agree with this take.
This is what we call “Proof of concept”.
KDS on full display, every hour of every day, on the porch you should stay, until your KDS goes away.
*Tsk tsk* touchy touchy on this holiest of Tuesdays. You should join me on the porch and relax. I’ll even let you bring your fat heads of Trump and Kirk out with you.
Stay on the porch son… the best advice I can possibly offer you.
I don’t need nor ask for any advice you may have, thank you though.
Here to help
“Helping”
Some people don’t get subtle hints.
Glad you are glad the Vikings let a all time mid tier QB grift them for record money with nothing to show for it. Odd mindset to have for a fan of the team. Supposedly. Also KDS = Kirk Defense Syndrome.
Stay on the porch son. You can’t change the definition of KDS and you’re foolish to believe you can.
Wasn’t replying to you, its rude to interrupt.
Laughing… you… calling someone else rude… now THAT’s hilarious. Stay on the porch son.
Guy is one of the best QB’s to ever play for the Vikings IMO. Put up good numbers, gave the team a chance to win every week. Set records. Much more fun than watching whatever last season was IMO. His accuracy and durability were things I really appreciated about him.
By your measures, the Bengals are getting grifted by Burrow. No SB’s, tons of injuries, not worth it to not be able to pay defense. Some players on teams are always going to get paid, and premium positions more so. Can’t blame him Rick was willing to pony up.
Burrow is a statistical and proven winner and multiple levels of ball and has been to and played in more play off games then Kirk could dream of. And won them. Let alone making a super bowl. To me, thats where the comparison ends and you can keep your “This many random stats” Banners. I have never, nor will ever care or acknowledge Kirks stats in an argument. And will leave it at that.
Trophy room bare still.
Also, let me ask you this: Do you think JJ stays in MN if he’s not getting good QB play? If we have the stuff we’ve had the last year, no way he isn’t demanding a trade out or signing somewhere else. Again, Kirk helped him set NFL records. A non-good QB doesn’t do that.
Thats great, winning trumps personal accolades. JJ himself has stated that. I never said Kirk wasn’t “good” he mediocre. Average. And his stats reflect his ability to stay healthy and play long enough to accumulate those #s. Thats it. Hence the Vikings barren Trophy room. Thats the only room I care about. Could care less about which QB gets it. All I knew after 2019 and still know now is Kirk isnt capable of that. Period.
Do you think Fran Tarkenton was a QB incapable of winning the super bowl simply because he never did? Should we look back on his career with disdain because he never filled the trophy case?
Should we claim Alan Page, Carl Eller, Adrian Peterson, etc were all somehow imperfect because they never brought a championship to Minnesota?
Should we hail Trent Dilfer as great because he has won a trophy? Just doesn’t seem to be a lot of nuance to your argument, KFEY
Agreed. The “super bowl or not” argument is tough. There are great players who never got a ring, and just because they didn’t doesn’t mean they weren’t good or capable of getting one. Kirk was plenty capable of doing it with a sufficient o-line IMO. Unfortunately, the line averaged bottom 25% most of his time in MN I think.
Exactly, he played behind a shitty O-line nearly his whole time here and still put up really good numbers….People point at the loss to the Giants…anyone who watched that game understands our D was a total sieve…but let’s put it on Kirk.
Burrow did get to a super bowl.
Kirk throws short on 4th & 8 when it matters most.
Trophy room still empty, like Kirk.
He was always elite at getting paid
TIL jaxon smith njigba is a gigantic baby
He’s a huge baby over this thing.
He’s also not better than Jefferson. Or Chase. Or Puka.
it’s hilarious he thinks the NFL is literally trying to be disrespectful to him
“yeah send him a defensive player award, he’s dumb and no one likes him so who cares”
JSN….ya dumb
Well, it’s pretty dumb by the NFL to send him the wrong award isn’t it?
It is dumb, but human error is just that. Human error. Sometimes people make mistakes. Just let them know what happened, and get a new trophy. That would be a mature, adult response, right?
Indeed.
So ‘disrespected’ that he’s now the highest paid WR in the league.
Someone made a mistake, sent the wrong trophy. Could’ve had a little fun with it and still be an adult. Instead: victim
Yep
everyone makes mistakes, even the near infallible NFL
Everyone except Jesus
I am going to stand behind JJMac, at least for one more season. I believe he will beat Murray out for the QB1 spot.
I don’t see it, but we’ll soon find out.
Love the optimism but I don’t see JJ (QB) winning the QB1 job, doubt it will be a fair ‘competition’ at this point.
Best we can hope for is for him to come in during injury release and do well enough to keep the job.
I just… I just feel like such a Vikings fan here. I feel no matter what happens, whichever we choose will be wrong and whichever goes to another team will win an Owl lol.
The time has come for the organization to work on the long term plan for QB. The Packers have had three QB1’s since 1992. That’s a plan in action. Get a solid vet, draft a rookie and see if he has the goods to be a long term starter. If not, get rid of him and draft another rookie. When you find the next long term answer, let the vet go.
Always exceptions. Rams and Seahawks just went out and bought one.
Yep. As I said, “get” a solid vet. Then find that guy who has what it takes to be a long term starter. That long term starter doesn’t begin and end with his level of athleticism. The most important traits are a fast brain (processing) and an accurate arm. Fans are turned on by great athletes, with big powerful arms. In the NFL, processing and accuracy are what separates QB’s.
Get a solid vet and draft a rookie and see if it works out…? That’s literally all they’ve been doing! lol
They had a solid vet, but they screwed up and let him go, before they found the solid follow on starter. As I said, the Packers have had three QB1’s since 1992. You don’t let the solid vet starter go, till you have the solid starter replacement on the roster.
“screwed up” lol , annnnd he’s off ladies and gentlemen. Or were you talking a bout Darnold?
I was referring to Darnold… you’re a very foolish person KFEY and you just proved it to everyone, attacking me senselessly. Stay on the porch son.
“Help Hep im being attacked!”
No, as usual, you’re being foolhardy… attacking me. Everyone can see how you conduct yourself. They understand. Stay on the porch son.
Is the “Attack” in the room with us? Please point it out. Also, I wouldn’t speak for others, its dangerous to assume.
Just pointing out the reality you refuse to acknowledge. Stay on the porch son.
You pointed out nothing. And are making shit up again per usual. Not once did I attack you or bring up Kirk cousins until someone else did. *shrugs* – Victimhood doesn’t look good on you.
I always point out reality. You immediately posted something on my commentary that was wrong, and now here you are acting so innocent. That’s the reality. Stay on the porch son.
I think most everyone would say letting Darnold go for the terrible play we saw last year was a screw-up.
I can agree at this point now that the 2025 season is said and done.
Seahawks thought. it was quite kind of us to let Sam go to them.
Worked out pretty well for them.
I really think KAM underestimated the situation and though Jones was staying to be a Vike.
Could be true.
But also believe KAM or someone vastly over estimated that JJ was ready to play.
Well I think in that case some times with GMs they NEED that first round pick to show he can play… OR ELSE! lol
The Pukers may have only had 3 starting QBs since 92, but they were in QB carousel mode for 30 years before that. They were lucky Favre worked out and lucky he didn’t leave the year they drafted Rogers. Rogers pissed and moaned about them drafting Love .
Kirk would not sign with the Vikings, once he was told they were going to draft a QB. Same pretty much goes for Darnold and Jones last year. They did not re-sign because they knew they were not going to be the long term future for the Vikings.
Kirk wouldn’t sign with the Vikings because they were stringing him along on one year deals, and refused to commit to a no trade clause. They drafted Nate Stanley, Kellen Mond, and Jaren Hall while Cousins was there right? He wasn’t bothered by that.
Those three were not #10 picks. They were drafted as depth players from the get go. Hell, I probably wouldn’t be threatened by those three draft picks.
I agree with this. JJ’s only hope at this point is injury.
if he beats out murray, we’re screwed…
although murray wouldn’t have to wait too long since mr glass will be hurt by game 2.
Murray probably won’t know the playbook by training camp since he can’t read and has the work ethic of an inner city child.
Lol you are going to hammer this until the season starts aren’t you
I’ll hammer it until he proves he’s not retarded and lazy. Thus far in his career he has not done so. There is a reason the Cardinals are ok with taking a massive dead cap hit to get him off the team.
I’m in this camp as well.
This is true. Im more of wait and see. Did the Cardinals give up on him, or did he give up on the Cardinals first? Its a shitty attitude but I can only imagine being drafted high and being expected to carry a bottom 10 roster and coaching staff before you just check out. Murry does come off as lazy and apathetic but, we shall see what being here during a turning point in his career does for his motivation.
Pretty sure he’s not retarded, maybe lazy though
This is why, I believe JJMac beats him out for QB1
Bingo. The redemption arc shall begin.
Would be great to see, but I think the front office has made up their minds already. Plus the second he plays semi-poorly, fans will be screaming to put Kyler in, so he’s not set up for success.
I don’t see why the front office would be set on Murray being the QB1. They don’t have big money tied up in him. I believe their intention was to have a reliable back up when/if JJMac gets injured.
No chance he is the starter game one, it would do him some good to sit and get practice reps and work on his fundamentals
Joe Burrow is probably thinking this is his last ride with the Bengals and they better have that defense fixed or he’s going to go to the Rams. Thats what my favorite QB is doing.
Talk about a guy who’s always hurt, though. If he could stay healthy, maybe they could make some noise again some year. But he should win a ton of games even with a terrible defense, right?
Getting hit because of the actually worst O line in the league for years on end while carrying your entire team will do that. Kid’s been to a bowl and is capable of putting up top QB numbers consistently regardless of competition. Vikes would immediately be SB contenders with him on the roster. He’s my top QB.
Our o-line hasn’t been much better – probably be the same situation here to be honest. But you pay him and the WR’s big bucks and some things have to suffer. Almost like every team has to deal with this conundrum…
It statistically has been better the past 5 years then the Bengal’s, that is quantifiable. So I dont buy that. Just like I dont buy the “Hurrr duuur Kirk never played behind a good O line its not his fault” conspiracy.
But yes, what I stated was a fantasy dream of having him on this team on the cheap, its not realistic nor did I expect it to be. Im aware of what he would have to be paid and the capitol it would take to get him. It was hypothetical.
Morning all and SKOL! Up top Surly asks what’s your favorite QB doing today? How provocative. Right now I’m not very confident in any of our QB’s. I hope one of them steps up and runs the offense efficiently and effectively this year, but I don’t know which one (if any) of them will.
FTP!
Merry Tuesday.
My favorite QB is ‘yet to be determined’ but hopefully one will emerge during the season.
And FTP Auto Rec.
Murray like Donald did, will rise from the ashes and have his best season. We will get to the NFC Championship game – not sure if we win that, to many other variables at this point.
Also believe Jefferson will have a great year.
‘Jefferson will have a great year’
Which one??
Whose Donald?
I think you mean Darnold, but if Murray does indeed rise from the ashes, then that can only be good for the Vikings.
Unfortunately, my favorite quarterback passed away in February. My next favorite quarterback announced he has dementia in 2024, so not sure what he would be doing today. (Sir Francis and 2-Minute Tommy).
My Favorite QB of all time passed in 2023, RIP Joe Kapp.
3.5m video tribute.