28 May – 30 May 2022
Hey, sorry about forgetting to post the weekend thread. The fish are biting, so that’s where my focus and attention has been.
From Vikings.com, Harrison Phillips was mic’d up during OTAs, hear Wes Phillips address the media, and there’s tons more to search through in the video vault..
There isn’t a whole lot of new news, so have at it in the comments. Have a great Memorial Day weekend, and most of all, be cool to one another.
Let’s look at how rookie head coaches fared last year:
Matt Nagy owns the best rookie head coach record in NFL history with his 12-4 first year in 2018. It is not impossible for KOC to match that, but only one guy in history has done it, so.
It is much more likely rosie matches Saleh, Culley, or Campbell. What kind of teams they inherited matters too. What were their teams records the year before? I wouldn’t expect much of a change unless a big infusion of talent came in and greasy adolf completely fucked up the draft according to almost every talking head not a Vikings fan, so hope of success should be tempered.
Hope of success should be tempered because historically the vast majority of rookie HC’s fail to win many games in their first season. Most have losing seasons. The Vikings do have veterans who showed a lot of fight last year though and they will not go gentle into that good night as it were.
Most new head coaches inherit a team devoid of talent.
Jeff Gladney passed away. So young, RIP.
RIP kid, what a shame,
Sad… no details on the car accident. Don’t need any either. He and a young lady died. Very, very sad.
We ended up with eight players yesterday so they divided us up into two teams of four. The game was each hole was played as a match hole, and the best two scores from each team would be added together. For instance, on the first hole my bogey and another guys bogey combined for a score of 10. The opposing team’s score was 11 so we won the hole. I had 4 pars and only three doubles. Had 11 bogeys mostly having to lay up every hole because my driver was balky. But laying up and hitting a pitching wedge or sand wedge into the holes to try and save par wasn’t bad. I also hit the flag stick on a par three, but the ball kicked and rolled about 20 feet away. in the end we lost by one hole. We each handed over $20 to a player on the opposing team to settle up. My 89 was the low score on my team, the opposing team had a guy who shot 79. Former collegiate golfer who plays this course a lot and made the tee times. Go figure.
Never forget, ever. Freedom isn’t free. The sacrifice of our veterans can never be put into words. Thank you to all who served. Long live the greatest experiment in self government the world has ever seen.
Celebrate the heroes who gave their all for this country and fought for liberty and justice for all.
Yes and thanks for your service General.
I went to a sunrise service today and there were so many people there. Brought some tears to my eyes as I remembered some of the young men and women I served with who gave their life for this country. This included Marine Sgt. Nicole Gee who was killed in Kabul by a suicide bomber and whom I’d met just two weeks earlier. The people I have had the priviledge to know and serve with are remarkable and true believers in our country. They defend her against all enemies foreign and domestic with their very lives. I have sorrow in my heart, but pride as well.
I think George said it very well with this statement.
“It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men that died. Rather we should thank God such Men lived.”
-George S. Patton
Great sentiment, and absolutely accurate, but easier said than done Kodiak.
Yes, it absolutely would be.
This is just like a lefty!
FJB.
Top Gun 2 was insane. Crazy good
I concur. Saw it Friday night with the Mrs. 3 out of 4 stars.
top 3 reasons greasy adolf menstrual sucks
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Truer words were never written.
I’m a legend
I effed that up
lifer eats dirty diapers
Is that from Big Sky?
Sup nerds
Catching walleyes in your home state of Nebraska and shopped for some new guns. Was able to pick up a nice used Uzi and a WWII .50 cal and also 3 handguns, all .44 magnums.
Better buy a .50 cal reloader next.
Great work. Any lunkers?
No, but they have them in there. We caught about 24 walleyes, kept like 7 or 8. Can keep 4 fish each (8 possession) and can have 1 walleye under 18, as many as your limit allows between 18-21 or 22, and 1 over 22. Most of the ones we threw back were 16-17. It snowed last week and they said it slowed them as the water temps plummeted.
Nice, where’d you fish at?
Merritt Reservoir in the Sandhills near Valentine. Really a beautiful and unique area imo. I’m going to go back in fall and hunt for Prairie Chickens and Sharptail Grouse
I can see a post, how and the hell do you find it?
It’s yeller fellar.
I mean you have to scroll for it?
yes!
Not good. Fix.
Paul Fix?
Mika, Rifleman.
Johnny Crawford just passed away recently. He had the best gig in child starring.
Magnifying glass…?
Should be a singular key to find. You a DN guy?
SKOLO dead. RIP
Lololol Memorial Day weekend =/= dead.
RIP Bo Hopkins.
Who was Bo?
RIP
actor from the olden days
Actor with long list of credits. Probably best known for “American Graffiti”.
Was in 2 Burt Reynolds movies:
“White Lightning”
“The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing”.
Made appearances in multiple TV shows including:
The Rockford Files
The A-Team
Fantasy Island
Charlie’s Angels
The Fall Guy
Barnaby Jones
The Rookies
Hawaii 5-0
The Mod Squad
Bonanza
Gunsmoke
The Andy Griffith show
Book em Fivo!
Bo knows
That’s a different Bo.
Thanks Joe Biden!👍
The unemployment rate in 17 states concentrated in the Midwest, South and Mountain West reached a record low in April, a sign of an unusually tight labor market.
The milestone in those states marks a sharp reversal from the spring of 2020, when the Covid-19 pandemic drove unemployment to record highs in 15 of those states, according to Labor Department data tracing back to 1976.
Two additional states—Oklahoma and Arkansas—hit record low unemployment rates earlier this year.
Record low work force is causing the problem.
There’s not a problem people are working. Thats what low unemployment rate means.
There is a huge problem, millions dropped out of the work force. Low unemployment is just based on new claims filed, lol. The labor force has shrunk dramatically.
I understand that based on the below from 2021 data..
“Workers who left the labor force during the pandemic are not counted among the unemployed, as per usual practice. As the economy improves, many of these workers may reenter the labor market, adding to the number currently counted as unemployed and in want of work. For that reason, Jerome Powell, chair of the Federal Reserve board of governors, recently suggested that those who left the labor force since February 2020 should be counted among the unemployed to gain a better understanding of the slump in the labor market.
Adjusting the unemployment rate for labor force exits, and also making a correction for measurement challenges that have affected government surveys in the pandemic, shows that the U.S. unemployment rate in February 2021 may have been as high as 9.9%, instead of 6.6% as officially reported.”
Adding these people to the officially unemployed would have produced a 2021 jobless rate of 8.9 percent instead of 8.6 percent, according to Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute”
So if we look at current data clearly we’re well below those “added dropped out of the workforce” single digit percentages if we add them in to the current numbers.
Here ya go….. Bruh
Oooh.2.5% lol…
What I see is that it’s not even back to Pre-Covid levels. And the major lifting was done in 20… right around 3/4% since 21 when bidet got installed.
FJB!
Headed to the golf course. Playing a course where I can’t reach 9 of the holes in regulation including the first three holes. Last time I played the course I took an 8 on the first hole and a 7 on the second. The course is just too big for me. This is a golf outing and we have three tee times. They’re coming up with some sort of teams and money scheme. I won’t be of any help to my team off the tee for the most part. I can’t reach two of the par 3’s except maybe with my driver. I will be lucky to par 3 holes. Not looking forward to the day, but I will be determined to hit quality shots no matter what.
While your playing partners go big trying to distance out play conservative keeping the ball in play off the tee and focus on where your misses could be that won’t hurt you if you hit an off shot with your irons. Chipping and putting will be where you take the advantage.
Play up a tee or two. That’s why they put them in.
Is there a tee next to the green? I’m good with a putter. Driver, irons, and wedges not so much.
Well this course had 4 sets of tees. The Championship “tips” (Gold) the advanced player (Blue) the men’s (White) and women’s (Red). Believe it or not 3 of the women’s tees had par fours over 400 yards long.
I would play the whites
Because I am much older than the rest of the guys and “distance challenged” I was allowed to play the whites. there were 9 holes I could not reach in regulation including a 225 yard par three. That hole had a carry of 170 yards over water. I hit three wood and barely landed over the water. Pitched the ball up the hill to about 25 feet and two putted for bogey.
Don’t you military folks have a bunch aeronuttical engineers that can come up with solutions? I mean, you know, like a rocket-powered driver or a Javelin booster or something?
Laughing… that research was cut from the budget years ago LFA…
Nothing is ever cut from the budget. There’s probably still programs in the black budget to educate people on proper cavalry charges. There’s probably even a robot eagle to pick up the ball and move it a few hundred yards. Besides, a robot eagle is probably a better fighter than the flying albatross, er, F-35. Lots of probablies here.
Laughing… for what it’s worth the Biden administration is working hard to dismantle the DoD.
Walz here in Minnesota is working hard to make the National Guard here worthless, too. They’re more interested in filling diversity quotas than doing any particular jobs.
Greatest day in Motorsport today. F1 Monaco GP, Indy 500, Coca Cola 600.
So let’s all put our HC hats on and predict a game plan that will work to beat the Packers in the first game. Zimmer’s plan was to run the ball as much as possible, burn clock, shorten the game, and let the defense win it at the end. Is this the plan we need to adopt? Play conservatively, only throw the ball when we have to, and keep it close to the end?
Balls to the wall.
Light em up with everything you have and go for the shootout.
The Packers base defense will be a 3-4. A lot of the time there will be four guys on the line of scrimmage and two (linebackers or safeties) behind them. Sometimes the defense will have five guys on the line and only one linebacker. The corners probably won’t press very often and will usually be in zone coverage. This scheme lends itself to be attacked with a TE running an out, or sitting down in the middle of the field. Hitting the RB out of the backfield will also be effective. Finally, the deep crosser beats this defense but that requires good protection for the QB as he has to hold the ball a little longer.
In Kube Jrs defense Irv is the difference maker for the offense if we can get going. Him off the line of scrimmage in the intermediate zones will keep the 2nd line of the defense guessing and busy. Then you work in Cook and Jefferson and you should be able to work what the defense gives you by play calling and Kirk audibles at the line.
Audibles are an advanced level of offensive play. Every player on the field must fully master the offense before you can change play calls at the line and on the fly. The QB can recognize the situation and change the call, but the whole rest of the offense has to know what to do. Thus in a new scheme audibles can go wrong.
It won’t be anything to complex like Manning or Marino did. I’m talking basic switch to run or pass. Easy option 1 or 2 which Kirk will detail in the huddle.
Which brings up another question, did the Rams run much no huddle? I think that fits Kirk’s fast mind and rhythm better than huddles. Hence why he’s so much more productive in the 2 min offense.
Yes running an audible for a run or pass option is simpler, but still requires players to know their assignments and be able to quickly change in their brains what they are going to do. It sounds simple, but the offensive line is setting up for a pass play so the center is calling out protections and the line is preparing to take steps back and set. The QB changes the play to a sweep and the Guards are now pulling while the tackle fires off the line. Those are two completely different actions. So as I said, audibles require the whole team to be able to change instantaneously.
Running a no huddle is similar. The team must be well practiced and prepared to run a no huddle. The QB can know exactly what to do, but if the rest of the players don’t it ain’t gonna be pretty.
You lost me at Irv.
On the first Packer offensive play Hunter and Smith meet at the quarterback and Rogers suffers a broken collar bone. He remains injured for 2 years and leaves them with a monstrous cap issue…
Vikings win every Packer game for 3 years while the cheeseheads have no QB and no money. The Pack ends up doing a complete rebuild including the front office and the janitor…
This injury is of course not a planned event… but somewhere… a certain ACD person would be OK with it.
This is as likely as the Vikings beating the pack this season. I’m hoping we can beat dabares once
Nice call and I’m down with it!
So is there a “next unread comment” button? My Z key doesn’t do anything.
Not yet. GF is working on it with the site developers. They will have to write the code for it as it’s not in their menu of options at this time.
Cool thanks…I was thinking thats where we were at.
I keep hitting the Z-key, to no avail
One day….
This is a curious situation to me. Sloter has been on a number of teams in the NFL and barely made it above practice squad level. You’d think if he was really that good a team would have seen it and made him their starter. No idea why he hasn’t been recognized as a gifted QB by the many teams he’s been on.
He got cut from the Broncos… but then bounced around from teams with safe starters… Kirk… Carr… Murray… tough to say.
Guy finds a way to win. Preseason MVP
Yeah… again I’ve no dog in the fight and have never seen Sloter play. I just know a lot of teams have had him on their squads and he’s never been on the field as a starter. Didn’t he predate Cousins? Maybe not.
He did.
But that was Bradford/Keenum 13-3 year.
Maybe he sucks. I just know he gets the job done.
He’s never played in an NFL regular season game I believe.
He’s at 1500 Yds 9 TDs and 7 INTs in the USFL
That TD to interception rate would disqualify him from being a starter in the NFL.
You’d think…. Winston threw 33/30
Josh Allen threw 10/12 his rookie year.
Who knows what Sloter would’ve done. I’m not saying he’s a starter but that should disqualify. Other things may.
Hell… look at Favre’s first 3 years jn the league.
All some guys need is a chance and they play up.
Favre still owns the NFL record for most interceptions. In today’s NFL though interceptions are really a divining line. Just look at the vitriolic response when Cousins throws a pick?
Kirk gets the hate from his contract. And that’s what’s amazing to me. Vikings fans haven’t had a legit QB outside of Favre in years.
They get a year of good play from some cast off and move on.
They have a guy like Kirk who they actually have to pay and when we don’t win a SB it’s all his fault.
Yep. But the Madden video game has him ranked 17th so….
I’ve been seeing the same…ranking in the 15-20 range lol…guys like Zac Wilson, washed up Ryan, Hurts ranked ahead of him lol….it’s laughable the hate he gets.
Five thinks that Hurts is the second coming of Brady because he can squat a lot
No, I said he can run and that’s an added dimension. Anyway, thanks for the cigars on that game. appreciated
Yeah….. makes sense.
They’re now saying Trey Lance is the next Josh Allen and ranking him top 10 in the league.
Bunch of idiots.
Lance is an NDSU grad, so they may be on to something. Or maybe they’re just on something.
still don’t have a legit qb. what about 7-9 and 8-9 in “all in” Owl years excites you? moran
I said he’s the most legit qb We’ve had since Favre… and way better than culpepper. Only guy we’ve had at the helm for 4 straight years.
See what happens.
Moran
moran
Anyone think that Bisi will unseat KJ as WR3?
Both are similar in size and traits… but KJ had a much better year 2 than Bisi did.
KJ actually played in his second year… Bisi did not… he was a back-up.
That said, I think we have some good depth at WR. KJ, ISM, Bisi… with Thielen and Jefferson at the top.
We’ll see what ISM turns into.. Bisi had promise.
I think I like Bisi better than calling him BJ hahaha
ISM will find his niche in the receiver corps this season. Jefferson, Thielen, Osborn/ISM, and the rest will compete for #5 spot
Never know, JJ and AT end up on IR and we could have an interesting wr room
My prediction is Nailor has a real good chance at getting some reps also. Very underrated talent.
Honestly…. Bisi and KJ are incredibly similar in size and athletic profiles. They also compare very similarly to Deebo Samuel.
Nailor is close but is about 15lbs lighter than the other 3.
All 4 are good athletes but not the “freaks” of the underpants Olympics.
Maybe wreck was good at finding WR?
And the other 2.
Nailer’s comp is Diggs. He looks a lot like him running routes.
Diggs was still bout 10lbs heavier than Nailor.
Yup 195…bigger legs and ass but they look the same running routes. Deep room he’s up against so might be practice squad if Bisi comes back fully healed and ready.
I’m excited what our offense will produce and apparently so are experienced coordinators who know a talented offense when they see it.
off season talk though Lifer. Every team is saying similar things right now. I hope the offense is opened up and actually fully utilizes the talent we have at the skill positions, but we’ll see. I’m still apprehensive about rookie coaches making rookie mistakes.
I think KOC is a pretty level headed smart guy with vet coaches around him and don’t forget, experience. Just helped McVay win a SB who leaned on him heavily and let him make calls. I think KOC is absolutely ready for his moment.
I like our depth on offense.
Roger… I don’t share the same confidence in KOC or the new staff that you do. You certainly could be right, and I hope you are.
First time out running a team, KOC will have to figure things out, unlike Zimmer
Bisi will be lucky to make the practice squad, ISM will push Osborn for #3
Bold prediction… guess we’ll see. KJ had a good year las year. Couldn’t ask for much more.
It’s a valid concern we might not have a legitimate #2 just good back up guys. Thielen is old period and its a best guess if he’ll be 70% of what he use to be. So who’s next? Good question. If we don’t teams double JJ and our offense is half as good as we could be.
AT will be fine if not hurt. Not worth nearly 20 mill next season w/o any dead
I for one have no objection to vigorous background checks, as long as we can do the same for immigration and voter ID.
Makes sense to me L.A.
You made it!
Yes… Your Champion has arrived!!!
Unfortunately, with this admin, the rules are applied differently to groups
Gun control is a politically and emotionally charged topic. The politics of gun control finds politicians crafting messages that appeal to potential voters who are horrified by gun-related deaths. Unfortunately the emotions of gun control find people unwilling to consider the facts behind gun-related deaths.
There are numerous historical accounts of brutal despots, kings and tyrannical governments victimizing their subjugated citizens who were too powerless to resist.
The availability of firearms for self-defense has made it more difficult for governments and tyrants to victimize their citizens. This is one explanation about why the most murderous governments and despots in the last 150 years limited gun ownership and, in some cases, confiscated firearms from their citizens.
King George of England attempted to implement gun confiscation policies in the Colonies before the Revolutionary War. We all know that didn’t work. The King’s intent to disarm American colonists was one of the foundational reasons for our Founding Fathers adopting the Second Amendment to the Constitution.
This is the other thing I have noticed…
SCIENCE!!!!
That is completely accurate.
Well played.
False equivalency for retards.
Cops are trained and hired to carry a gun. Any issue that arises from their shooting incidents are of professional choice.
The American population have the ease and access to weapons of war designed for killing and then killing innocent Americans with those guns is a completely different issue.
But hey if dumb memes massage your conservative amygdala brain have at it.
This is the new “subliminal messaging” of the left. Guns are now “weapons of war”. None of the weapons ever used in any mass murder situation though were true weapons of war. They may have been AR’s but AR does not stand for “assault rifle”. It stands for the manufacturer’s name Armalite Rifle. While the rifles used resemble the weapons I used in combat, they are no where near the real thing. Civilians do not have access to the real weapons of war, so once again the left is misrepresenting reality to the public with their lying rhetoric.
It’s like when they say “semi-automatic”
It’s such a perverted term it doesn’t mean what they want it to. But it sounds scary.
They seem to work well in Vegas, Buffalo and TX. They fire the same 223 round at a high rate. The design is nearly identical minus the auto option.
If the big bad AR was gone it would be a handgun. If the handgun was gone it would be a shotgun. If all guns were gone it’d be a van full of fertilizer or a pressure cooker.
Get your mind right.
Simply not true Mick. The Scottish killer in the UK used a hand gun at their school shooting over two decades ago. UK banned handguns but allowed sporting rifles and shot guns. They haven’t had a similar incident since. It works at reducing mass gun shootings period.
There was a shooting last year with a shotgun.
Knife attacks a year before that.
Bombing after a concert… Ariana Grande I believe.
And then another shooting when a dude had a sawed of shotgun and a .22.
I’m sure I’m missing something but that’s where my memory is at.
Let’s see would I rather confront a knife, shotgun, .22, bomb or assault rifle? I’d take my chances with all the others in a sec.
It’s comments like this that show you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.
Not to mention law abiding citizens have no assault rifles and none have ever been used in a mass shooting. Facts and all.
Psst, ar’s are a .22
Don’t confuse him with reality
I know, facts, reality, and critical thinking are tough for the npc’s.
High rate… you are lying through your teeth now.
High rate… aka how fast you pull the trigger.
That’s the nefarious meaning of “semi-automatic”
It means nothing other than how fast you pull the trigger. 1 squeeze 1 shot.
You are correct. As I said… citizens have no legal access to true weapons of war. Criminals may have them, but true assault rifles are not available to the public.
I want mini guns mounted around my house and 2 million rds of ammo for them.
Well we could explain to you the term “Shall Not be Infringed” but everybody knows that the document those words are in mean nothing to the leftists! It literally means “protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.”
Yup, and in spite of the fact that there are 25 million AR’s out there, very few get used for any crime, but boy howdy, are the democrats interested in preventing a single murder in democrat cities that happen by the bucketload? Nope, no problem, they ignore those for decades.
The fact that the left has started using the term “weapons of war” and spewing this propaganda to the public with the help of the MSM and politicians is wrong. That lie must be confronted. The public must know the real truth that weapons of war are not legal for any citizen to possess and no mass shooting has ever occurred using a true military assault weapon.
My moose and bear guns a way way way more powerful than an AR-15, but the dimwits keep saying that an AR-15-type is “high-powered”. There is no end to their ignorance or deceit.
Hey GF…fyi. When a series of replies to a specific comment happen and the number of replies increase to many….they’re formatting like this on my ipad.
It did that for me and then it was all gone.
Dunno why….
Yeah I refreshed and it reformatted….no issue.
Had that same issue the day before yesterday, reloading the page seems to make the effect disappear.
I’ll let them know. Looks like that happened to a few folks on Friday, too.
Makes sense
“It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men that died. Rather we should thank God such Men lived.”
-George S. Patton
“When there is no enemy within, the enemies outside cannot hurt you.”
-Winston Churchill
You realize this was a quote honoring our fallen men and women for Memorial Day weekend? I do not see the relevance of the Churchill quote.
It’s actually an African proverb originally MEANING. the enemy within: a threat that exists within a community, nation, etc., as distinct from an external enemy.
You mean like the threat from democrats who see no need for freedom and are doing everything in their power to kill our country economically, trade-wise, energy-wise, standard-of-living wise, speech-wise, and 2A wise?
Exactly like that LFA…
That’s exactly what it means but I wasn’t going to reply to cooter off his meds
As far as the Texas shooting goes, or any gun crime for that matter, disarming the law abiding populace as a response isn’t going to stop or even slow it down. You’re simply creating more unarmed prey for criminals.
It’s not a gun issue.
Nope.
People issue… culture issue… lots of things.
It’s not guns though.
Couldn’t be more wrong. Other countries are no different, they have people, culture and lots of things issues also. Their mass gun murders stopped when they banned guns. Period.
They just have people going on killing sprees wkth hammers, knives, bombs, cars….
Come on man that’s crap.
I posted below and I’ll say it again here. Kids can call 911 and there are no video?
There absolutely arent the amount of kids in schools dying in other developed countries with gun laws from other reason. Look it up.
No kid had to die their either. No gun law prevents that from happening.
It took a good guy with a gun, an off duty CBP, to stop the bad guy with the gun.
While police stood outside.
Lifer, here are some facts that you need to know:
The UK and much of the EU has a violent crime rate that is 4 times that of the US (UK 2,034 per 100,000 US 466 per 100,000).
The FBI reports that during a mass shooting the average number of deaths when the shooter is confronted by police is 14.3. When confronted by an armed citizen the average number of people killed is 2.3.
That is simply false and inaccurate information. Check your sources.
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime
Don’t confuse him with facts. The point is he has TDS and will avoid all logic, truth, common sense and any other rational thought so he can have a tantrum and insist he’s right while trampling over the constitution.
👇
Waukesha had five people that were confirmed killed and forty-eight others were injured. Guess we should ban SUV’s as well.
What’s next, stats for falling down stairs at home? Unbelievable.
Really?
Kids were run over marching in a Christmas parade by a felon who was just let out of jail.
Somehow you don’t feel this level of unnecessary death is the same?
You miss that the facts of the Tx shooting are some teacher propped a door open and police stood around for 80 minutes yet it’s the “guns” fault.
Cmon Jabroni
Same old tired conservative trope comparing vehicles to guns. How weak of an argument. Police, to your point above, can easily stop a criminal in a vehicle as they do every day. One with a AR 15 is a different story vs a vehicle and last I checked you cant drive one in a classroom.
Funny you’re worried about undeveloped fetuses but grown children you’re not willing to support doing everything possible to reduce their death by firearms. How many school shooting we up to now mick?
It’s not a comparison of vehicles to guns.
What about the last school shooting in Texas?
The black kid who was
Bullied and let out of jail the next day?
Different right?
That story disappeared quick.
No Lifer, this is the same old BS the left spouts to take guns away from law abiding citizens for criminal acts.
It’s why facts like who propped the door open.. why didn’t police go in sooner… where are the videos… don’t matter.
The goal is to cause a stir about guns and distract from the realities of how bad of a situation the country is in.
Let’s talk abojt guns and not gas prices or inflation or anything else.
Abortion didn’t work.. now it’s guns.
Guess what’s coming next… a police shooting.
So “they” hired a kid gave him two expensive assault rifles, convinced him to shoot his grandmother in the face, wreck his vehicle then go in a elementary school and slaughter a bunch of kids and then be shot and killed?
Damn “they” are good.
Did I say that?
No.
The questions I asked had nothing to do with the shooter but the others involved.
But where does this poor kid get the coin for a rifle like that?
Yes they are, have you seen the movie yet?
Avoid talking about 2000 Mules
Can we talk about 2000 copies of…?
Well they havent gotten BLM on board as of yet, so… They NEED a police shooting to get the Brothers involved. Abortion didn’t work for that because, even though there are more Blacks exterminated by abortion than almost anyone else, they want to keep killing my people because they are race hustlers, it’s not a big deal to the guys. They can’t get BLM involved over inflation and gasbecause those are affecting everybody. They are waiting for the NBA playoffs to finish so they can get the attention of the Black community and then we will get another police killing of a Black man so BLM can riot.
So you’re saying year round NBA is the answer?
Yes… we must ban stairs!!!!
I don’t understand why you downplay Waukesha like it was a anything but an act of terrorism.
You’re mad about Uvalde but Waukesha is a joke to you?
How?
Nice job by Avs 5. Couldn’t see but a slapper with 4.9 works for me. Fuck the bloos. Good luck with the Oil. MT is going in hard on this one.
It was an amazing and crazy ending.
Scoring with seconds left in the game.
Saw a replay of MacKinnon goal in loss. Thing of beauty.
Good day you knuckleheads, Pounded the the walleyes so bad i need a hot tub.
Thank God for tub railings!
Indeed! 😅
Heading out to the hot tub myself.
I see beaker is the 17th rated qb in Madden 23 with a score of 80. Seems about right.
What a complete and utter shit show in TX. Maybe more guns is the answer??
I have recently read some disturbing facts about the case.
The shooter was an 18 year old cross dressing male.
He had recently purchased two very difficult guns to find/get that are valued at over $5000. The optics are also valued in thousands of dollars. The guns are very desirable and preferred by federal agents. He also was driving a $60,000 SUV.
The school door was suppose to be locked according to the school safety plan. A teacher had inadvertently left the door propped open.
Things that make you go huh?
Where did an 18 y/o kid get the money for the guns, optics, ammo, body armor?
How did an 18 y/o kid have access to that stuff? The guns in particular being very difficult to find.
Did he use a credit card to buy stuff online? Who’s was it?
Was the $60K SUV his? How? If not who’s is it?
What are the odds he would go to the one door in the school that had inadvertently been propped open even though it was supposed to be locked?
He fired outside the school for 12 minutes before entering the school. The school safety officer did not respond? Really?
Excellent questions. Another very mysterious incident, it seems.
Conspiracy theories aside, just the complete bungling by local law enforcement is atrocious at best. Cuffing parents, treating it as a hostage situation when kids are coming out covered in blood and calling from inside saying he’s shooting people. It finally took an armed boarder patrol agent to say enough and went in after him. One parent, a mother was cuffed, talked the police in to uncuffing her she’d leave, she sunk around climbed the fence went in and got her two kids hiding in a different classroom.
So much for the good guys with guns theory….
I heard on the radio the officer in charge is taking some heat for fucking up so bad. Over an hour waiting before going in after the guy? That’s bullshit!
It isn’t some conspiracy. This is the reality created when you trust your government to save you.
Another mass murderer known to the authorities who’d been reported as being someone who could do this.
Kodiak has valid points. Where did he get these specific weapons when he was made fun of for being poor?
Why are you arresting parents? Why are police standing around in the hill for 45 mins?
It was asked in a conversation… what would you do? If you have kids at home and you’re at something such as this? A school shooting…
Do you go in? Are your kids more important than someone else’s? Your paycheck? What is it?
I’m not saying it is a conspiracy, but I still think the points I brought up make everyone question wtf is going on? How can this happen?
On a side note is it just coincidence that this happened the same week 2000 mules was re released?
It’s not a conspiracy. These are from the statements that they made.
It’s incompetence.
Would you dying saving kids be worse then knowing you stood by and did nothing?
Would you trying to save kids and dying and failing to save the kids because you died suck? I would say yes, it would suck.
Both options suck. But you don’t have to live with knowing you did nothing.
One mom got her kids out. Story lifer posted.
Sometimes death isn’t the worst outcome.
Yep, some things gnaw on a man much more than dying
Sad thing is we have the technology to keep this from happening as easy as it did in TX. Auto locking doors with alarms if you prop the door open, alarm goes off. Easy shit or hey..leave schools locked all the fucking time, they’re clearly a target. Do the easy shit while politicians continue to smear shit on each other and never get nothing done.
Lady stopped another one in West Virginia just a couple days ago…
Because she was armed.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61615236
I saw that earlier, awesome job by her!!
Yeah sure…happens enough sooner or later the nut job runs across the wrong individual. That’s not good enough. Kids are being slaughtered for christ sakes and were ok with once in a while the shooter is stopped or our “guns” are more important than a mother & fathers child?? What fucking crazy twilight zone are we living in???? Nothing makes fucking sense…nothing.
In 1988, the federal government banned metal-tipped lawn darts because a single child died from one. Guns though after hundreds of kids are being slaughtered….nah lets not ban those.
Lifer,
Taking guns away from law abiding citizens as a measure to reduce gun crime is totally inane.
If the guns are more important than our children’s safety and lives then our country is already lost NVF. What has your career been about were you defending our children or our guns?
He was making money to pay for his trophy wife:)
My career has been about defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign or domestic.
100%. Criminals can and will always get guns, disarming the law abiding populace has absolutely nothing to do with fighting/reducing crime. It just makes one defenseless vs the government, and said criminals.
Then why do gun crimes drop dramatically in countries that ban guns? America isn’t some alternate universe where the effect would be different.
Why is it that kids can call 911 from their phones but we haven’t seen any video from inside the school?
They’re just elementary kids not like the parkland teenagers. They were fucking terrified would be my guess.
So your position is either teenagers don’t get scared or elementary kids aren’t smart enough to do that?
Neither are correct.
What are they hiding from you? No cameras in the school?
Really? It’s 2022.
No other adult in the school recorded anything?
How bout body cams from
The police who went in?
Come on it’s been a few days…maybe a kid did and they haven’t released the video yet, cameras in schools I dunno some may some may not its not a conspiracy. Anyway what’s you point with any of this, some kind of cover up?
I’m just asking the question of why.
Where’s the video and why haven’t we seen it?
They’re still investigating would be my assumption. A lot went wrong with the response and I’d be willing to bet on such a hot button political issue they don’t want to release video thats going to cause a ruckus any worse than it already is.
Didn’t stop the videos from other “hot button” events.
Time to think….
Agree
Vegas shooter took nearly a month for the videos from the hotel to be released. Way after any news cared.
Just like gun crimes have dropped dramatically here in places where gun laws are super strict. OH WAIT!!! The places that have the strictest gun laws also have the most gun crimes and are in the areas that demonrats run! The law abiding citizens can barely get a gun and the criminals are running wild!
Which is why you heard little about it on the news, because it goes COMPLETELY against the narrative!
I’m old, so I grew up in an era where there were a lot of westerns, and good vs evil, and the measure of a man is what he’d do when faced with danger. Would he turn coward or have excuses to not do the right thing?
The Oompa Loompas had it right… It goes right back to the parents.
Properly raised kids don’t do this stuff.
That is correct. Have you learned if this assailant had a father in his life?
Boy desperate to blame anything but the access to weapons of war. Sure broken families kids with no fathers is a bad recipe for a maladjusted kid but that may be the genesis of the dysfunction but certainly is not the acute issue of access to weapons that can kill. A teenager has emotional issues….shocked hence why easy access to guns should be banned.
Your arguments are always founded in logical fallacies Lifer. In this case you are engaged in what is known as “appeal to pity”.
An appeal to pity relies on provoking emotions to win an argument rather than factual evidence. Appealing to pity attempts to pull on an audience’s heartstrings, distract them, and erode support for their point of view.
Appeal to pity??? 19 elementary kids just got murdered by a unstable person with an assault rifle. That’s fact and if it doesn’t “pull at your heartstrings” and cause you to think objectively about your point of view then you must believe society doesn’t evolve, which is your own self created fallacy.
Your comment (19 elementary kids just got murdered by a unstable person with an assault rifle.) is the basis of your argument that we must take guns away from law abiding citizens. That is completely irrational, but boy it sure does pull at our heartstrings. I rest my case.
Yeah, it’s almost unbelievable how much shit went wrong down there.
It’s society, not guns. Why can’t you figure that?
Lol….no it’s unstable people with guns that’s the point lost on you and many others. Rationalizing this down to single cause thinking that label identifies all the factors is asinine and only done by disingenuous people picking a political side. I just want kids to stop being slaughtered and if banning certain guns accomplishes that then good do it.
UK had a similar case a few decades ago, “Laws were changed, handguns were banned and the level of gun violence in Britain is now one of the lowest in the world.” Since the 1996 Dunblane massacre, they pointed out, “[t]here have been no more school shootings” in the United Kingdom.
But go on..keep saying and believing not drastically reducing the publics access to guns isn’t the way to solve these gruesome mass killings.
Over 400 million guns out there, you think sick fucks can’t find one?
There’s a lot to blame with this one… and guns is not one of them.
eggzakklee
You’re really missing it and you’re throwing this “nobody cares about slaughters kids” argument at the wall hoping it’ll stick.
Last week libs were outraged they might not be able to kill children in the womb until the moment of birth, this week they’re outraged that kids are being slaughtered.
Last I checked.. they have a majority in both houses and the presidency. If these are legitimate issues they believe in instead of talking points to divide us more… they’d act.
But they want the division.
They also want to talk about anything other than 2000 Mules
Hmm….
You are also not allowed to carry a fucking butter knife in London, so there´s that. They might have stopped “gun crime” (which there never was very much of anyway in the UK, or post-war Europe in general), so the thugs are roaming the streets and stabbing people because they know they don´t have to fear instant retribution by a citizen armed with a gun.
Gun control in Britain started with a school shooting. Gun control in Germany started with a school shooting. Gun control in Austria started with a school shooting. Odd, right?
Yes. More guns are the answer.
Armed officers at schools who take their job seriously.
The 18 year old should have been shot before he entered the school.
I’d suggest closing borders, stop sending billions overseas and address internal issues, but what the fuck do i know.
Uh….the shooter wasn’t an illegal immigrant.
I’m pretty sure he meant things to help out the country as a whole….
Did i say that? Open borders are not likely to improve anything. I believe in background checks for guns, just as much as dirt bags allowed in this country. Look at your picture window and enjoy the course. Don’t preach to me anymore.
Still can’t figure how to post a pic
Do you want to post it from your computer or from the internet?
From the internet, I got the little box in the corner for the stuff on my computer.
Exactly, the little box is for stuff from your computer.
From the internet, right click on the pic you want to post, select “copy image adress”, and paste. That should do the trick. Remember to actually open the pic you want post.
You see the jumbled pile of shit at the top of this thread? That is what I get when I do exactly what you suggest.
Head scratcher
OK, this sucks. I produce something like this with that method. Sometimes it´s just a link to the pic, but mostly it posts. Head scratcher indeed.
You´ll figure it out.
Maybe it’s the source. trying to post viking stuff from bookface doesn’t work for me
fuck, fucken, fuckers fucking
Perfect. Bookface might not work for whatever reason.
Save the puppies
First!
LOL, posted like 11 seconds before you hit “post comment”. Next time, mate 🍻
Also, RIP puppies!
Found five. He´s hiding out in the Austrian Alps, apparently.
Lol, beat me by 15 seconds. Mine posted before yours popped up but you were first fair and square.
Yup, that was a really close one 😂