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I watched some really good college football last night, Michigan beat Alabama in OT, and Washington held on in the final seconds to beat Texas. Perhaps one of the QBs playing will be the Vikings QBOTF.
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David Tepper’s statement after being fined $300,000 by the league:
“I am deeply passionate about this team and regret my behavior on Sunday. I should have let NFL stadium security handle any issues that arose. I respect the NFL’s code of conduct and accept the League’s discipline for my behavior.”
What’s odd to me is, not one media source reflected on what exactly transpired, to lead to this event. Did someone throw something into Tepper’s box… maybe at him personally? All you see is what he did. As if it was totally unprovoked. Was it though?
I assumed he was getting razzed about the pathetic team that he owns.
So as they say in Prison, ‘it was a respect issue’.
Or he just had enough of the offender…
Opposing fans were talking mad shit, he is a loser of an owner and threw his drink on them, not particularly complicated and he’s a horrible owner.
What exactly is horrible about him? I know nothing of the man, except he’s worth $20B.
He’s a terrible owner, great businessman but has been a disaster as owner, worst record in the NFL since he bought the team and has fired three coaches in three years, and he meddles, coaches wanted Stroud in the draft but he demanded they take young, Snyder like.
Everybody wants to be Jerry Jones…
I’d think Robert Kraft, way more money, way more championships, and always gets a happy ending
Way less “hands-on” management of the team…
I truly hate those moments when I and I alone, no credit to any deity, am able to briefly and miraculously discern the cure for cancer and describe it in detail in a dictated note, followed by elucidation of the winning powerball numbers for tomorrow night, only to find out the stupid speech recognition microphone has stopped working and needs to be unplugged and plugged back in.
I am grateful, however, that this morning on the way to work I finally glimpsed a glimmer of sunshine reddening the eastern sky over the Makoshika badlands. My vampire tenure cometh to an end.
TLDR version.
MT Viking is on some good shit.
20 mg gummies??
I have no idea what the amounts could be.
I believe that they only difference between medicine/drugs and poison is dosage.
Same is true of alcohol. Time and time and time again I hear men tell me that they drink 10-15 beers five or six nights a week but for them 12 beers is like 2 to normal people. Uh huh. May as well swallow a bottle of acetaminophen. (please don’t).
15 bottles of Coke is bad. 15 bottles of water is bad. 15 bottles of beer is bad.
I agree.
Moderation in all things, including moderation.
Shit, I wish you hadn’t told me that. I was thinking of cutting down to 10 beers. Guess I’ll consider fried chicken.
Now do the other 44 bottles…..
What of I drink 2-6 beers like two or three nights a week?
A really good question Ben!
I would die.
The speech program I use is called PowerScribe. I swear that somehow the computer knows when I have just dictated a 14 paragraph thesis on a newly diagnosed cancer with locations measurements and staging and chooses that moment to lock up and drop the dictation. I scream. The computer does not care.
I just said von Meyenburg complex and it transcribed 1 minute and a complex. MFer.
I thought there wasn’t a cure for cancer, only treatment to get it into remission
Remission means a temporary reprieve. In oncology remission might be partial (ie partial treatment response canker gets smaller) or complete (ie canker is gone). Some docs say complete remission for 5 years or more is a cure.
My wife had grade 1 (ie minimally invasive) endometrial carcinoma. She had her lady bits removed. Just had her 1 year pelvic check and all looks good. I consider her cured by resection but there are rare cases of it coming back after 1 year of ned (no evidence of disease), usually locally, but sometimes metastatic.
Yeah, I just know there is still a ton of research to find a cure for cancer, which I interpret as there isn’t one currently. I remember about your wife and am hair she’s good.
The Vikings worked out six players today:
LB – Abraham Beauplan
QB – Jarrett Guarantano
DB – Tiawan Mullen
WR – Makai Polk
OT – Alex Taylor
WR – Malik Turner
They signed Beauplan to a contract after the workout.
So we got that going for us.
Super Bowl bound, baby!
KAM is playing chess… everyone else is playing football.
Ha!
BTW… Beauplan was with Minnesota in the preseason but was waived following an injury. He’s now fully healthy.
@yay@
6-2, 235 lbs, 4.58 forty…
Where’s Mordor? He missed 420.
I got this.
Gummy consumed. 5 mg MN Nice gummy. will not do much except help me sleep well this evening
You should watch some penix film mor now
Ok, ok. One more.
If you are doing it right, you don’t need a condom.
???
See the below discussion (you were in that discussion).
You must always ask your daughter’s boyfriend, please answer the following question:
People that engage in reproductive behavior are likely to ___________?
The condom keepeth the sperm away from the ovum. An unfertilized ovum will not implant and produce a gestational sac, etc…
Your pullout game must be strong
I’m done with my random thoughts. I need a pile of food and a comfy recliner.
Just because you don’t know how something works doesn’t mean that no one knows how it works.
Another saying you can hang your hat on…
Nope, disagree with you there as you are referencing my post.
I disagree with your disagreement
There’s a difference between jousting with your friends on a sports blog and being a jerk. If you can’t tell the difference, then just assume you are a jerk and you will be right.
I feel like I’m a jouster
yes, but the jouster/jerk line can be fine and difficult to discern.
I wonder why VP said that? I mean, he is not wrong.
I’m tired, cranky and have a cough that won’t go away. I’m living on the edge right now. And someone annoys me often.
Also cancer sucks.
^^^^^Yes, it does.
Deep soothing breaths VP….
remember, this too shall pass….
Sorry to hear that. Also sorry to hear about your grandson, I wish him all the best and a speedy remission and subsequent cure.
I understand, I spent all of Christmas day and the feast of Stephen in bed sick, now I just found out I have an ear infection, it sucks
Could be worse – like you have a hernia or something.
I feel it with every cough
Try lifting your foot off the ground (affected side) when you cough or sneeze.
Will do
Midway through vacation I caught something. Tired, cough, snotty nose, chills. It sped through most of those stages pretty fast, but the cough is still hanging on. When we got back to Seattle to see my grandson again, I couldn’t even go see him because his immune system is destroyed from the leukemia and the chemo. I’m really cranky right now.
Sounds flu A-ish.
That sucks
I can only attest to me, if it seems I’m jerky just assume I’m being facetious
My problem is I never assume someone is being a jerk, and so when they want to be a jerk to me they start being really obvious about it….but even then I am difficult to offend.
And I don’t think you are a jerk..you can get a little salty sometimes, but that is just fine.
Ben you’re never a jerk. You being an Admin now we all understand the burden of command can be stressful.
Random thoughts from VP.
The Curse of Oak Island Season 11 Episode 8, titled “A Void at All Costs,” airs on History at 9:00 p.m. tonight. In this installment, the Oak Island team encounters a frustrating setback (this is my shocked face) that keeps them on their toes. But according to the promo, “little do they know that this setback might just be the precursor to a groundbreaking discovery.”
Spoiler… they don’t find the treasure.
LOL!
I do sometimes enjoy that show….and they have found some pretty cool stuff.
They have found things dating back to 100-300 B.C. Some things they are finding are truly remarkable.
I remember having a long and fairly thoughtful discussion with an intelligent coworker about the whole dinosaur bones and Noah’s Ark etc and he made various points refuting carbon dating. Was an interesting conversation but ultimately like arguing with a flat earther.
There’s one in every bunch.
I don’t know… scientists state “facts” about how old things are in billions of years, like there is really any legitimate way to know that, even to the accuracy of tens of thousands of years is IMO ridiculous. Carbon dating is not that accurate, as we have no controls from known time periods of that age, and we are at best extrapolating to exponential degrees.
Dinosaurs are old
Hmm. We getting a new QB… probably.
He really wanted Cine
Sad but true.
He liked what he’d “Cine”.
Come on now Ben, we have all screwed up a hire every now and then….O.K. for me it was just once and I learned from it…I hope Kwesi has learned from the Cine disaster.
On draft night, my mouth was agape when KAM took Cine instead of Kyle Hamilton… agape.
The entire first draft was bad hires so far
True enough….true enough.
Losers do their best… winners go home and fuck the prom queen…
These days the prom queen is probably some dude.
Laughing… so hard. Nice BSF!
This is a saying you can hang your hat on.
I knocked up the prom queen
True story, the prom queen wanted me to bone her, but I was way too shy….girls scared me….
Probably for the best, most are shallow people
Then 9 months later go broke paying child support at age 17
TMI but you know MT, I was a late bloomer as I skipped a grade but I delayed having intercourse (or feeling a boob or any exciting stuff) until I was in my third year of college because I was concerned I would end up a teenage dad (I am also hideously ugly, have Tourette’s syndrome and eschew deodorant)…my “first” girlfriend there was a moment early on when the condom broke (I was aware and put on a new one but you never know about those swimmers). She was subsequently two weeks late and while I put on a brave face inside I was screaming. I somehow held in the loud cheer when she told me her period had started. All I could hear was my dad’s lecture For G..’s sake don’t marry the first girl you screw.
This discussion takes me back to the time of the prom queen, have you ever heard of a Dr Hobbins at the University of Colorado?
No, I have not.
I figured you had, he’s super to be some kind of pioneer in using ultrasounds to diagnose disorders
Just looked him up, he’s a MFMer so that makes sense.
What’s mfmer?
Maternal Fetal Medicine – er.
He gets to see pregnant women all day. Sigh.
Jelly much??
Ha! The condom breaky times can be terrifying when you are young and not prepared for a child.
Does this really happen frequently to people? Because I have never had one break. Maybe I’m not being rough enough? Haha. They are generally way too tight but if used correctly, they seem pretty strong.
I’ve had it happen a couple times
It is rare but yes it can and does happen. Happened to me 2 or 3 times…terrifying…
More like a stress break/tear, or more like a tip-can’t-handle-the-amount break?
Well I haven’t used condoms in a LONG LONG time but yes it happened at least three times to me. Never a break at the penultimate moment thank goodness.
Can’t say why, happened at random times in random positions.
I was also late to the game of buying condoms in bulk. Before I figured out that was a way cheaper option I always felt like a sex fiend stopping at the drug store almost twice a week buying boxes of 10 at a time.
LOL! Once the chicks got used to my beastly appearance, three nipples, cross eyes, swass body odor and constant sneezing during sex they found me irresistible.
Ha! I remember buying condoms but refusing to purchase them by themselves…needed 3 or 4 other items (that I really didn’t want) and then you kind of snuck the condoms in amongst them like they were in afterthought.
For some unknown reason I was intensely uncomfortable buying them from an attractive college girl at the till of my local drug store so if she was working I’d walk ten blocks to the next drug store where it was some matronly woman.
For me I was a freshman in college, and was drunk enough to play Vatican Roulette. worked out for me.
After that I was sure to use condoms, but yeah, first time was stupid and could have been bad.
I am 60, and still feel overwhelmed to be a father.
Dalvin cook was cut by the jets today after a terrible season where he looked absolutely horrible
Jets paid $7 mil? Wonder how equates to yards.
Am thinking Cook can buy many houses with big yards with that much money.
Looks like 214 yards. Divide into 7 mil. Where can i get a job like that?
The New York jets
You got some college smarts, maybe ben for GM?
Let’s run last year back under a lot less money. Cousins and Cook for $20 million total… 18 million to Kirk lol.
washed…..
Little does Dalvin know, he was my inspiration behind the “he sucks, cut him”.
Thing I may have posted once or twice.
Look at that speed!
the guy is delusional.
He’s declined fast.
Hes gonna watch the play off teams with us plebs on the couch.
The Vikings Age is saying that JJ needs to sit the last game in order to avoid injury.
https://thevikingage.com/posts/justin-jefferson-sit-out-minnesota-vikings-week-18-detroit-lions?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email&sc=24b8486ccfd4f84b6e956bfa5d6153055be39adcb0826b28a0fe19eb3aa0aefb
That would be interesting….how do you get anyone to play hard if you are sitting players so they don’t get hurt….
I don’t think KOC is wired that way. And short of an acl, whatever he might injure should be healed up by next year.
Something to think on i guess. Didn’t AP tear his ACL on last game? Not going to care much if 7-10.
Obviously stealth tanking is called for.
#duh
Interesting. You’re in the playoffs – sit your starters, You’r not in the playoffs – sit your starters.
Hell, let’s just cancel the game and let everyone go home.
Welcome to college football.
End of the year the starters sit, and the others go into the portal.
Yea. Fun watching bowl games when most of the starters don’t play.
And yet somehow those bowls still result in hundreds of millions in revenue
Living in Florida was interested in Fl ST Georgia game. After losing their QB all State had was defense. But then many didn’t play and what a great game to watch
It was really unfortunate FSU lost their QB, but I think the committee was right to not include them in the playoffs, they would have just gotten blown out and both games were incredibly competitive
Yeah, I agree with that.
I still wish Georgia had not collapsed. They had a good team.
Then again, Fuck the SEC
I think if Georgia had won the SECCG they’d have been one seed, Michigan two and you’d have had Michigan beating Washington and Georgia beating Texas. I agree though, FTSEC
Shades of Josh freeman
oh man i remember this throw….
Now that is a big time miss – that’s beyond step ladder.
Commenting closed 2 days in a row. Am i offending someone?
‘Am i offending someone?’
Obviously,
In this day and age how can you avoid it.
#congrats
LOL, probably not using my pronouns correctly.
If you are a white, heterosexual male you are offending someone by your very existence.
If you are also an Evangelical Christian you may as well start packing your bags for the re-education camp.
Just born under a bad sign NoDak, i’ll work on it.
If I go to reeducation am I exempt from paying income taxes?
Only if you are on the correct side of the political spectrum and that income comes from enemies of the US.
Maybe I’ll just start a foundation like one former President. Political bribes, sorry in DC that’s called donations, do seem to be effective too.
You might even get to take trips to an exclusive private island if you’re lucky. Just to vacation of course.
Become a citizen of another country and migrate illegally to America. Lots of bennies.
^Chief knows the score^
Guess i better lighten up. I’m old school. You earn it. i’m so old i don’t even buy green bananas.
Free MediCal/Medicaid for illegals in Cali. $3 billion with a b on the taxpayers backs. Considerate of them.
They excel at spending other people money out here.
Well, on the other coast there’s a group that is just as good at spending other people’s money.
Is DC on the coast??
Close enough to count.
Insert ‘I’ll allow it’ Gif here.
Thank you.
ALL politicians excel at spending other people’s money. Taxes go up and deficits go up at the same time under red rule as well.
Unbelievable, But Cal has so much money.
If you are a homosexual female you are offending someone by your very existence… (usually the Evangelical Christians). Because as we know Jesus spent his life teaching over and over and has been quoted over and over saying, “Gays are ew!”
I am not offended my homosexual females, in fact I am friends with some. I don’t know any of my evangelical friends who are offended….we are offended by their demands that our church marry them, though, but that is a whole other topic.
That’s fair. But I do know more than a few evangelicals who are very judgmental towards any of the LGBTQIA+ ABCDEFG community. Churches should marry whomever they feel should be married in their church. But the flip side is the government is not afforded the same rights to ban marriages. Two consenting adults want to be get married… it’s America, you have the freedom to do so.
It is interesting putting aside all the other things that are banned in Leviticus we don’t seem to give a shit about and Jesus never said anything about homosexuality which is interesting since it’s such a big topic for many… even putting that aside. Notice the bible never said shit about lesbians… just man lie with a man? Why? Because as with most things it’s about the context in the time it was written. Back in those times, women weren’t worth much, and for a male to be the receiver of the sex would be making himself into a woman, which again, means degrading yourself to the status of lowly woman. Who should remain quiet and not talk in the church etc… But girl on girl… no issues there, never mentioned literally anywhere. Because in the writers of the Bible’s eyes, woman not named Marry aren’t worth a hill of beans. A very wise preacher explained this and it made a lot of sense to me. He explained it better.
Yeah, watched “The Case for Christ” this past week.
True story of a big skeptic who turned evangelical.
He was a reporter for the Chicago Tribune.
Anyway, one of his “ahah” moments was about women in the bible. Why were the first witnesses of the resurrected Christ females? He said if you were fabricating the story that wouldn’t make any sense since women’s opinions/testimonies were not worth much in Biblical times.
I shall remain deeply skeptical.
Which is, of course, your right…and I shall not hold your viewpoint against you nor should you hold mine against me.
I am friends with many atheists, doesn’t mean agree with them but I don’t see the point in shunning them either.
I had a conversion with my wife the other day and I mentioned that I didn’t agree with or condone our lesbian friends lifestyle, she asks why I would say something hateful and I responded that I have no hate at all, it’s no different than my friend who has banged 100 women and has never and will never have a relationship that lasts longer than a month, but I love both and would do anything for them but i don’t agree with their lifestyle choices and in the eyes of the church both are wrong. She quickly realized what she said was wrong and understood. A lot of people get labeled as hateful simply for disagreeing with something, but it’s just intolerance of other people’s opinions.
Is your lesbian friend in a long term monogamous relationship?
Yes, they are married and easily two of my favorite people and two of the kindest I know.
Well, I am nothing if not honest on here…I guess I don’t see the parallel between some male slut who leaves the debris of broken female hearts behind him like so much road dust and a loving monogamous lesbian couple. As a married guy I could hang out with the latter but the former would inevitably lead to conflict as the values are so disparate from my own.
He doesn’t really leave broken hearts, he’s honest about who he is, doesn’t make it right but either way I disagree with both
Quit talking sense.
You will throw us all out of wack here on the InterWeb.thingie.
thoughtful idea. But I wonder if there is a difference between “accept” and “embrace.” It’s not really intolerance, but I’m not going to do handstands either. And there seems to be people who will condemn you for not doing the later.
This is well put JRobert…its not enough to respect and accept you must enthusiastically embrace whatever lifestyle someone chooses.
I accept, but I see no reason to celebrate
A lot of people get labeled as hateful
I still hate Aaron Rogers
You should because valid reasons
Absolutely. I just have to balance out the more popular Sunday School threads from time to time.
Funnily enough we had religion classes when I attended base schools, and my parents were fairly (not devoutly) religious.
My wife is a believer so I’ll get saved by association.
I assume you’re being facetious because that’s not how it works. Haha.
(No one knows how it works)
Yeah, but you can’t assume that if there is a God, you are going to heaven just because your wife believes in him. I would say that’s extremely unlikely at best.
You just might…she is likely praying for you that your heart might be softened…
Every time one of the discussions start, I realize I need to pray more.
Didn’t watch Sugar Bowl. Tad late. What the hell?
Thought Texas was going to pull it out with that last minute drive.
It fizzled out at the 3 on forth and four on the last play of the game.
the last 4 play calls by texas reminded me of the vikings play calling in crucial moments of games aka BAD
Terrible play calls.
Been listening to an analyst pointing out on the last play, it was open but QB threw wrong type of ball.
Defense was not played
With a 37 – 31 final it sounds more like Defense got played.
I meant not played
Is Mullens under contract? Think Dobbs gets the nod Sun.
Yes Mullins under contract.
Don’t think it matters who the QB will be Sunday.
Mullens is under contract.
dobbs will not start…
it’s mullens, ride or die
Rock Paper Scissor
Frankly, i don’t give a damn, may not watch. Could be uglier than Sunday.If possible.
don’t know if it could be worse, but not sure it’s a good watch either.
Its crazy the Bills are playing for their division Sunday. Just a few weeks ago they sat at 6-6 after recently firing their OC while Miami was sitting at 9-3. Since then they’ve ripped off 4 straight including a win at KC and a curb stomping of the Cowboys. No one gave them a chance at the division back then but the Dolphins have stumbled with a loss to the Titans and Sunday’s absolutely embarrassing performance against the Ravens. I think it’ll be the game of the week.
jj mccarthy is a WAY better college qb that tom brady ever was
IDK if I would say way better, but better for sure.
Tom Brady 2 years starting: 20-5 record, 4773yards 30td 17int
jj mccarthy 2 years starting: 26-1 record, 6086yards 49td 11int
i’d say mccarthy college is way better than brady college
You have to account for different eras. Also, still probably correct.
i’m talking football though, not baseball and pitching…
nice!
Is ‘Wins’ a QB stat again?
It changes so often I get confused.
it fits my current narrative of the point i’m trying to make, so yes, qb wins is a viable stat right now
Was thinking if Brady had the current Michigan Defense his record would have been more gooder.
Or the current Michigan skill players. Corum would be a good back to add via the draft, he and Chandler would compliment each other
It’s the end product that counts.
what do you mean.
Guys develop differently. Knew JV baseball pitchers were great, couldn’t do shit in college.
RGlll was much better in college than Brady, and for that matter better than a whole lot of other QB’s. Yet, couldn’t carry Brady’s jock at the pro level.
in terms of college careers is all i am saying.
obviously there is 99.99999% chance jj mccarthy won’t be able to hold brady’s professional career’s jockstrap
True enough.
I have a hard time cheering for anybody who plays for Michigan due to everyone I’ve ever met who has gone to school there being a pretentious d-bag. Even more so than “The” Ohio State University (which also has a pretty high rate of people who think they’re so important because of the school they attended).
Figure it must have to do with the circle of friends/co-workers you have.
I honestly don’t know what collages any of the people I know went to, other than family of course.
I can’t imagine anyone being more pompous that the (Posion) Ivy League types.
Yeah, you’d be surprised. Went to another college in Michigan, and the pompous, stuck-up “I went to Michigan” people were all over. Know over a dozen, and every one has that pretentious “I’m better/smarter than you because I went to Michigan for undergrad” attitude. Well, they may be rich to afford that school, but they certainly weren’t any smarter.
I like harbaugh, always have, way for me to cheer for Michigan
Understandable. Just had several people I know also try to force Michigan fandom on me years ago (before Harbaugh) and that also made me hate them.
I don’t really like them before though, I did prefer them to Ohio though
McCarthy Sucks.
Cut him
I probably won’t be around much again this week. For those of you that were not around on Sunday, here is a copy/paste of my comment from then.
I know not everyone is around on a Sunday, but I may not have much chance to be on the rest of the week. For the medical types, my grandson’s diagnosis is MPAL (mixed-phenotype acute leukemia). It is rather rare as it is comprises less than 5% of the acute leukemia cases. They treat it like ALL (acute lymphoblastic leukemia) with chemotherapy and steroids. While there is some improvement, they would like it to be faster so they are going to add an additional medicine. With the fever under control, he has reverted to a typical 3 year old boy as he is playing, fussing with his sister and shoving copious amounts of food into his face. The steroids are making him plump out and are apparently giving him moments of ‘roid rage. The little dude got tons of Christmas presents because in addition to family presents he got presents from volunteer groups that give to kids in the hospital, plus his oncology doctor brought him a big pile of presents. In those presents where a plastic sword and shield, plus a light saber. After Grammie had to take the sword away from him for hitting people, he pouted and then learned to only hit things. After that me and him had a few sword/light saber fights. That was fun.
I appreciate all of your thoughts and prayers.
Hang in there Brother.
You have people and family who need you.
Hope he recovers soon, good to hear you got to sword fight with him and he learned to only hit “things”.
Totally understandable, that’s a lot to go through. Take care man, hope for the best!
Hope the treatment will work as intended, and quickly at that. Hang in there, mate.
All the best to you and your grandson. Hope and prayers for a speedy and full recovery.
Thank you so much for the update. Praying for him (and your family)
Many thoughts and prayers during these tough times.
Good to hear about some normal Christmas happenings.
Sucks being in the hospital for Christmas. That’s where we were last year.
Praying for a complete remission brother.
This is interesting. Plagiarism and racism lead to ouster of Harvard President.
2 out of 3 aint bad.
Damn DEI hires!!
In my opinion, the “Presidents” of most major colleges are rather worthless.
Worthless would be a step up for the 3 skanks that testified.
appears one of our elite colleges ran out of line(s).
“Gay out at Harvard”… What a way to lead in haha.
I think Harvard needs to double down on their DEI hiring practices and go with a person of color who is also a tranny…that should be all that matters.
No need for a Meritocracy
Saw a debate in Congress with Gaetz arguing with the woke left.
Some DEI leftist said that the most important thing is that the military ‘Looked like the American people with all of it’s Diversity’.
I guess the thought that they were the best at doing the job was further down the list of ‘most important’.
The military is going full woke, and has been for some time. Most people don’t know that the Senior leadership are all Academic types, with very, very liberal views. In fact, if you aren’t woke, you aren’t to move up too high.
WTF? Liberal military? Does that even equate? GOD help us.
Yep, I’ve seen it all.
I remember when I first joined in the mid 70s. I got my 1st evaluation and the Sgt explained that I had to check the box that stated I was on board with Equality or I wouldn’t be able to promote or possibly reenlist.
They were talking about racial equality then, and I had no problem with that, I suspect it is pretty much like that now with DEI.
And they wonder why they have trouble meeting enlistment/retention goals when the majority of people who join are from Red States.
And then they wonder why they are missing their recruitment goals.
Yep… my wife came in asking me about what I wanted for dinner when I was typing that. Can you tell where I stopped and started?
So I’m getting ready to move on to mock draft szn soon. What I know as of now revolves around the Big Ten players, especially the Gophers. This years crop doesn’t look particularly deep, DB Tyler Nubin is expected to go late first/early second round but after that it looks like they’ll have a couple late round guys with CB Justin Walley, TE Brevyn Spann-Ford and potentially Jah Joyner. Going back to 2020 the Gophers have had starting DBs drafted every season starting with Winfield Jr (who I’m still pissed the Vikings didn’t draft), and last year the Bears took Terell Smith, who is their 3rd CB and played quite well for them this season. The Vikings don’t really need a Safety, even if Smith retires, but I wouldn’t be upset if they took Nubin, he’s a big time playmaker with size. Walley in the later rounds might be a decent pick as well.
wasn’t Spann-Ford being talked about going fairly early a year or two ago….he has completely fallen off the face of the earth. Poor QB play will do that huh
Yeah, he had a solid season in 2022 with around 50 catches for 500 yards. The team never used him as a RZ target much, always confused me about that. Anyway, he’s freaking huge, like 6’6″, 270, and not fat. I think he’ll get drafted in the midrounds somewhere but that’s just my opinion and if he had even competent play from the QB position this season his numbers would be at least double what they are.
Also, in state DB recruit Koi Perich a player to watch. From the small town of Esko, he was a 4 star recruit who had offers from all the helmet schools and was pushed really hard by Ohio State to flip his commitment right before signing day but he stuck with the U. He’s likely to play ST and return punts right away and maybe even start day one as a freshman. I am excited to watch him develop.
The Vikes were already way behind, I think it was early 3rd qtr.
We had like a 2nd and 6. We had a pass play called and Mullens diagnosed the Packers Blitz pre-snap, moved Chandler slightly to pick up the blitzer. Chandler promptly whiffed badly resulting in a big loss.
So frustrating, if Chandler picks up that blitz we likely have a big play.
Chandler is a much better runner than Mattison, but he blows chunks as a pass blocker.
Chandler wasn’t in the game for quite a while after that.
Remember the play wiffed bad.
Correct, that is why Chandler was not playing over Mattison, RBs who can’t pass block can either ruin a play like that, or get their QB killed.
Or both.
One guy misses one assignment and play is screwed. And then we all scream at KOC for poor playcall.
Yeah, its all on the coaches, its not like player performance has anything to do with the outcome of games.
Well he should have called “blah, blah, blah, no sack”.
NOYST
ESPN in trouble for showing Boobie on TV.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/espn-apologizes-showing-clip-woman-flashing-breast-sugar-bowl-rcna131835
it wasn’t all that impressive
I agree. Just funny that something like that stirs up some people, but cheerleaders are fine.
Yeah, I bet ESPN gets a hefty fine
Since it is QB Tuesday:
Personally I think (low standard I know) that due to KOCs long, convoluted, complex, passing scheme we need a QB that is cerebral enough to understand/run it, able to stand in and allow routes to develop, tough enough to take the inevitable hits, and with the arm strength to make the throws.
Oh and a better than average pass blocking line would certainly help.
My worry is that they will draft The Crybaby once he ‘inexplicably’ falls in the draft.
QB in the draft that best fits that is Maye
Even though it’s Tuesday, I’m tryin g hard to lay off that one issue.
But will say this – the cerebral thing is really hard to evaluate and how very important it really is. I’m going to use OB1 to illustrate the point.
Last year going into the Patriots game KOC put a play in just for a Pats particular defense. He called the play 4 times during the game, and QB1 audibled out of it as the defense wasn’t right. Later in game, right defense popped up and QB1 audibled into the play and threw what would be winning TD pass.
Tough to evaluate this kind of stuff.
The S2 Cognitive Test is supposed to measure the QB’s ability to make decisions quickly and accurately and rate it as a metric against the norm. Cousins scored very high, even though he said he was nervous about taking it. I’m thinking teams will eventually want college QB’s to take the test as a standard, just like running the 40, or the three cone, or whatever.
I’m guessing it’s a one question test and the only question is:
True or false, on 4th and 8 with less than 2 minutes left and no timeouts in overtime of a playoff game, a 3 yard checkdown is the correct decision?
You mockin me… Mr Gambini?
lol
don’t you think ability to stand in and allow routes to develop AND “a better than average pass blocking line” go hand in hand?
As long as some of KOCs routes take and considering blitzes O-line whiffs I believe even with ‘a better than average pass blocking line’ the QB will still ‘need to be able to stand in and allow the routes to develop’.
One is Vital but both are needed.
QB can help a lot with this by reading and understanding really well what to do with ball. And pre snaps audibles help too.
With KOCs scheme we need all the ‘help’ we can get to allow enough time for it to work.
Know NLV and others here like the quick slant plays. But our WR’s aren’t Debo like – think JJ and JA would get hurt a lot with these types of routes.
If your QB knows how to throw the WR out of harms way it doesn’t matter, now if you’ve got Dobbs out there then yeah, JJ and Addison would get redrumed.
there are certain routes even with Dan Marinos arm the WR is going to get popped
Yeah they never get hurt in KOCs scheme.
Especially with Dobby throwing to them.
Not sure why they would be at any more risk of injury, JJ especially takes a beating every week.
Think it’s just basic football. There’s a lot of defensive bodies near the line and some of them are LB’s who bring it – like a 7 yard slant.
18 yard routes to the outside much safer. And even coming in. you’re beyond a lot of the congestion and have space to move.
Can always get clobbered anywhere on the field some.
I agree they get hit more, not sure they get hit harder.
Being closer means less time to build up speed for the big hits that safety’s can lay on further down the field.
Taking a break for lunch. With the season winding down, I guess I would like to hear some frank commentary from Flores on what the defense needs for next season. I can’t think of too many Vikings defensive players I would rank very highly in the league right now. We seem to have a bunch of B players at the moment. Maybe Flores knows the answers to the test though.
Hunter is the only impact player on defense. They need an interior player who can impact the pass rush, need a christian wilkins type of player.
I tend to agree with you on this Ben. However, KAM might decide not to pay Hunter next season. If so, with Davenport being a complete and utter waste of money (and not on contract), we could end up with no one of significance lining up on the Edge.
Wonnum is also a FA after the season. My guess is they re-sign Hunter, which won’t be cheap, but a better use of salary cap than signing the couch was. They’ll have in the neigborhood of 40 mil in cap space for 2024, but they can create a bunch by restructuring a couple contracts like O’neill etc. and also by extending JJ, his cap his is like 20 mil for next season. If they want to plug some holes through FA they can maneuver to do so. Either way, if they re-sign Hunter they have to find another competent pass rusher, last game Hunter just got doubled the whole game, sometimes tripled.
Ben ‘not so dum-dum’ on this reply/post.
Hey, Cine got his first NFL tackle this last weekend. The breakout has started.
I tell you, Cine and Irv will break out any day now. Also, I have this nice bridge to sell if you are interested.
This is exactly what we have….a bunch of B players on defense.
With a nod to Wrenage, Harry is old and really needs to retire, don’t know his PFF ranking but watching him live he seems like a shell of his former self.
Like the Pace kid, but he will be an average Linebacker. Jordan Hicks is a decent player with a lot of heart but he is on the wrong side of 30.
Hunter is an expensive stud, everybody else is meh….
I think, much to the anger of the fans on this site, the Vikes are going defense in the 1st and 2nd round.
Pace is already above average. He is not an impact player but a solid above average guy who will be where he’s supposed to be and make the tackle when he should. Smith looked really good early in the season, but seems to be losing steam, he was bad on Sunday, looked to me like he was struggling to make tackles.
Alright, I will give you the Pace is above average…watching him live was a treat. He reads things so quickly and attacks….if he were just 15 pounds heavier he would be a stud.
Yeah, he’s short too, but I like him a lot, he’s a tough kid with a high motor and he is talented, its just… his size.
Fortunately, or unfortunately if you will, size is a big deal in the NFL.
I was told size doesn’t matter.
My wife disagrees
I for one will be pleased with defense in the early rounds. If we get the right guys. Which will be debated all the way from the draft through the season. Ah the offseason begins anew.
It is not Harry’s fault. I think they wanted to move on, but they can’t seem to figure out how to get a competent replacement. So Harry keeps collecting dem checks. And more power to him. Poor planning on the Vikings’ part does not denote retiring on Harry’s part.
Yes, they don’t/didn’t have a replacement…so I am not blaming Harry,
It is obvious he is retiring after this year.
They announced the starting defense vs the Pack, and Harry came out last to thundering applause, maybe that’s how they always do it, but it had the vibe of a goodbye tribute.
I know you are not blaming Harry.
At this point, no blame should be put on his shoulders.
Because of the osteoporosis…
Ha!
‘Because of the osteoporosis…’
Better than getting ‘old-timers’.
I mean, they’re starting Metellus who could probably slide into Smith’s role and be just fine
Yes, and at this point Metellus is as good as or better than Harry.
I think Flores was able to fool people with smoke and mirrors for a while, but eventually the lack of talent surfaces and the defense was exposed. In the GB, if we rushed 4 or fewer we got no pressure, if we rushed 5 or more we would get a little pressure but then our secondary was exposed. It didn’t matter what Flores did or didn’t do.
Not much besides Hunter. FA or draft they need to get a stud in our front seven.
For example, couple of years back Dallas was very average defense. Got Parsons and became top 3 overnight. One impact player can make a big difference.
We either need more pressure out of rushing 4 guys, or we need better corners.
Take your pick.
Exactly the deal. At minimum, get one or the other.
I take pressure. Good corners can’t stay with a wr if he can make 3 moves.
I don’t know about who they should get, but they need to get rid of Evans and Murphy. Evans in particular can’t play a ball in the air, can’t tackle, and just generally sucks. Murphy just gets burnt a lot. Harry is old and has lost a step. I think keep Hunter but everyone else besides Bynum, Pace, and maybe Harrison Phillips is expendable.
Lots of Harbaugh talk on Twitter right now.
I read that KAM wanted Harbaugh, but KOC wasn’t on board.
weird that KOC wasn’t on board with the vikings hiring Harbaugh………………………….
I keep forgetting that Jaren Hall is 25.
He’ll be 26 in March.
Guy was older than Ezra Cleveland, who has been in the league for 4 seasons.
How old is Love and he’s sat on the bench for a few years?
They are both 25, but Hall is older by 8 months.
Yeah, old for a rookie and sucks, not a good combo
i keep not forgetting how terrible Hall is at QB
Sometimes TV commercials are useful. I had not heard this song in a long time, then some truck ad had this playing. Really good song imo.
It is Tuesday, we can talk about Kirk.
I have heard many times we can’t win with Kirk because he isn’t mobile.
In the last 20 years 11 QBs have won the Super Bowl.
Using their combine 40 times, Kirk is only faster than 2 of them – Flacco and Brady, and His 4.93 is just a tish slower than Eli’s 4.92. The average time of the 11 was 4.84.
My takeaway is that while its not impossible to win with a QB as slow as Kirk, it certainly hurts your chances. I know “captain obvious”….. but I like to see the numbers.
Its usually because he does shit like check it down for 3 yards on 4th and 8
In before ” He didnt have enough time to throw anywhere else” excuses rain down.
Kirk problem isnt his 40 time ( I think you were trying to be funny). Its between his ears and his inability to be cool under legit possible season ending pressure. As well as escape a collapsing pocket.
No, I wasn’t being funny, well before the infamous 4th and 8 checkdown there was plenty of chatter on this website about how you need a mobile QB to win.
Mobile as in, quick space mobility, stronger lower body to shed tackles if the pocket collapses and get out of trouble on their own. New QB has to be able to do that, being able to be fast and run would be a cherry on top.
Yup, there was much rejoicing that the Vikes finally acquired a “mobile” QB. Didn’t last long, that love affair.
But you saw where it could be beneficial considering he won two games because of his feet.
Yeah, it’s not like Kirk often delivers dimes downfield when getting or knowing he’s going to be destroyed by a defender…. oh wait, he does that all the time. He is fairly cool under pressure I would say, and the stats back that up (at least as much as any other QB performs “under pressure”).
4th and 8
Minshew.
Interesting take. What did you think of Burrow’s play of Cincy’s last play in the SB against Rams – 4th and 1 as I remember.
Irrelevant to the discussion
Sorry thought it was about QB’s shitting their pants on 4th down plays with a lot on the line.
And even though it’s Tuesday, I’m off the usual shit show this year.
Yeah, perhaps a lapse in judgement in that situation, or maybe a hope and a prayer that he could break a tackle. Either way, he delivers more than he fails like that IMO.
Detroit easily won the NFCN this year, likely by like 4 games. I thought before the season they were going to win the division. Before getting banned, KarenFingers predicted the Lions would begin a 10 year reign over the division this season. Is this just a blip on the radar or are the Lions poised to actually be competitive long term? I’m not sure but the franchise has been headed in the right direction since ownership gave Chris Spielman control of the organization.
I doubt it lasts a decade. This is their fist competent year IN a decade. Lets see how they do in the play offs.
Agreed. Spielman is doing a good job so far, and Campbell (who I kinda like) has his team rolling. But much too early to crown them the next dynasty. Let’s indeed see how they fare in the playoffs.
I’m holding out hope for the Vikings to go from first to worst in division in a single season.
i won’t hate not facing the 1st place teams next year…
cake schedule, kirk back, stocked up Oline, fiercer Dline….
HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Same old .500 with Kwerk back
I’m fine either way on Kwerk as long as they take a shot at QBOTF and don’t give Kirk a deal that leaves the team hamstrung.
Cousins cap hit has always been relatively low, and has not hamstrung the Vikings whatsoever.
Drafting a starter is far fetched to me. We need to develop one tho. What options? Guess i’d take KC on a 2 year if can otherwise Mullens Dobbs as backup?
The best teams in the play offs the past half a decade have done it. So not far fetched. Fine develop one,. bring in a cheap bridge QB (minshew etc) for a cheap two year deal then. Do LITERALLY ANYTHING but resiging Kirk, pack his bags, and move him and his dead cap the fuck out.
Like the Minshew thing, so, it won’t happen.
Drafting a QB is the only way to find a franchise QB, finding one otherwise is what’s far fetched
First to worst to first with the JJ to JJ connection.
More worried about http://FTP.,
Team is very young, and if Love improves a bit, that would suck for the Vikings.
10 years is a bit optimistic, but I think they can hang as the best team again next year. After that, the Packers will start competing with them if Love proves adequate.
Bears are chaos.
Vikings need to nail some drafts or they will keep floundering.
I keep seeing Vegas odds makers giving us the best chance of “landing” Russell Wilson.
What is the deal with that?
It means we would be throwing away the next 2 years by signing Russell, who will be cheaper than Cousins, drafting a Rookie QB in the 1st 2 rounds and hope he pans out all while giving fans the illusion we are trying to be competitive.
Might as well trade away JJ if we do that since we would be wasting 2 of his most productive seasons.
IDK, but doubt it, if the Vikings want an aging bridge QB they’ll just re-sign Cousins.
I agree, but Wilson would be super cheap since Denver is on the hook.
I really hate that guy, and if Wilson is the QB next year I will root for the Lions.
LOL
Im rooting for the Lions if Kirk OR Wilson is here
Star trib reporter says Vikings going to go big on QB in this years draft.
They were thinking about Caleb Williams and Drake Maye even at this point last year. There’s been a lot of work done in this building through the course of the fall on these rookie QBs,” Goessling said. “If they were to say, ‘We have to be in the top five to get one of these guys, or the top two or three to get one of these guys, I don’t think they’re going to let that hold them back.
“I really think, based on the way they operated last year and the things I’ve heard, if they see there is an opportunity to get the guy of the next 20 years, they are not going to let something stop them from doing it,” Goessling added. “I really believe, based on how they think about this position and some of the things I’ve heard about the ways they may approach this draft, I just don’t think they’re going to be pennywise and tomfoolish. They’re not going to be spendthrift about it.”
Might be difficult, all three of the top 3 picks right now are going to either take a QB, or in the case of Chicago, probably demand a higher value in a trade w/in the division. Ideally Arizona end up at #2 and the Vikings trade up for Maye.
Exactly, I don’t see the Vikes getting 1 of the top 3 QBs…They could get Bo Nix, or McCarthy or Pentix. Are they worth it at 10 or 11? Probably not. Then do you trade down and hope one of those 3 is available later in the 1st or do you not go QB this year?
This will be interesting.
They can easily get to one of the top 3 picks
Ben may not be DumDum, but all of those top 3 teams are QB needy teams.
Chicago isn’t QB needy
Yea, Chicago usually has it figured out – take Trabinski over Mahomes.
That has nothing to do with whether they need a QB or not.
read below. Normally probably wouldn’t.
Thank you, idk where this false notion is coming from. Fields has been playing decent this year.
False notion coming from. I have a lot of family in Chicago. and here;s where it is coming from. few years back Chicago headshead took Trabinsk over Mahomes. None of the fanbase will forget that and are still pissed. If Williams should turn out anything like he is billed to be, and they pass on him – they better have their tickets ready.
Ah yes, your immediate family speaks for the greater Chicago fan base, how silly of me to forget.
You want me to provide you with a few hundred names or so. Y0u from Illinois.
What’s your source?
No, because im not the one making the dumb statement of “My family of Bears fans doesn’t like or want fields so that means neither do any of the fans or the front office or coaching staff.” Not even going to justify the rest of your dumb comment.
Because as usual you’re just talking out your ass. You have absolutlely nothing behind your orional comments.
Someone with even a little bit of information is more than someone with nothing.
Saw a Twitter poll Sunday night about who Bears fans wanted to be the QB next year and like 95% plus said Fields.
Some mature a bit later, who knows.
Oh, and I’m from NoILL and know a hell of a lot of people from chicago area.
I think they want “their guy” at QB.
Doubt it’s a late first or second rounder.
To me, Maye looks like the best fit.
But that’ll be difficult to do.
“they want their guy”. GM for sure, KOC don’t know about that.
My two cents, way too many holes on next year’s roster to take a flyer on a QB in the first round.
Agree MT….we need to fill other holes or end up like the Chargers, a stud, young, QB and nothing to go with him.
What are you even talking about? LA has a ton of talent, especially offensively with Allen and Williams, Ekeler, etc. and they have multiple all pros on defense. Their issue is coaching, not talent
True about LA as you point out. But the broader point is still valid too.
Ben DumDum, Yes they have some nice talent in the skill positions, BUT their defense ranks in the bottom 5 and their Offensive line ranks 20th overall.
So despite a talented QB and some talent at the skill positions you have a losing team.
If we sell the farm to move up and draft a good young QB, we will be the Chargers in my opinion.
Their defense isn’t bottom 5 because of talent, their HC sucked. Their oline had some injuries but is ok overall. There is a reason that is the #1 HC job that’ll be available this offseason, the roster has tons of talent and a legit QB just waiting for a decent coach, I think BB or Harby end up there and that team plays a lot better next season.
I hope so, Herbert deserves better.
Yeah, Hebert does. But Staley really truly sucked, last game of the year a couple years ago it was almost like he intentionally meant to lose and miss the playoffs
Oh, I am not disagreeing with you at all on the suckiness of Staley…I am just not sure that he was their only problem. I do think they lack overall talent on defense and their oline is suspect, but I could be wrong.
Truth.
IMHO
Yeah, who needs a franchise QB, be a waste to find one of those
If we had a top 3 pick I would spend it on a QB. However, we do not. To move up to one of those spots would require us drafting crumbs the rest of the draft. You okay with trotting out a degraded roster next year and crossing our fingers that the drubbing we receive will pay off in 2025 when our #1 overall pick traded to Washington means we are picking in the middle rounds again, but oh boy our QBOTF will start getting some playing time behind a porous OL while the defense allows sustained 10 minute drives? F and NO.
Yeah I’d be fine with that, especially considering the only QBs on roster will be Mullens and Hall
MT knows more than just gouging…accurate take…
That being said I won’t be horribly disappointed if they trade up and make a big splash QB pick…I would just rather they didn’t.
It would be kind of fun to watch a Trevor Lawrence type talent play for the Vikes and develop while getting the shit kicked out of him every week.
Maybe now is the time to give up the “competitive rebuild” and just tear it down and rebuild?
Could suck next year also, but trade everything you can for draft picks and then start sucking less at drafting quality players.
I’d be all for going this route, as in burn it all to the ground and start fresh. But I don’t trust Queasy & Kumbaya Kev enough to pull off the rebuild.
Chicago isnt taking a QB. Idk why people are saying thats a done deal. I bet they keep Fields.
Panthers owner is a classless clown, also clueless about football, I can’t imagine any HC wants to go there, of course someone will because there are only 32 HC jobs, but any coach with options will go elsewhere
i think another crazy aspect about this video, the other people in the suite reacted ZERO to that happening…
i think a normal person would have been like oh dude owner guy wtf, but ZERO reaction….that’s sad
Zero reaction because they are aware of what a douche he is.
i know, which is what i was implying…
new year, same bendumdum
Lions can get #2 seed with a win and both a Dallas and Philly loss.
Dallas is playing the 4 win Commanders.
Eagles play the 5 win Giants.
They both play late so Campbell may play starters. Never know what that dude will do.
Campbell said he’s playing starters.
He big mad.
Well, they should have won that game, kinda got jobbed by the refs
I thought it was funny.
Campbell got cute, sent out 3 tackles to attempt to confuse the Cowboys, and instead confused the refs.
Did the refs screw up? Yep.
Did I care? Nope.
That was wonderful entertainment.
Next time maybe just run a play and not come up with some complicated plan to try and trick the other team in who reported?
Or do it again. I really hope they run it again.
I hope they run it again and the refs screw up again so meathead gets all fired up and pissed off again
Seen some funny GIFS. One has cowboys carrying an official off the field on their shoulders.
don’t like Campbell, but hate the Cowboys far more. and Jerry had been crying all week about Cowboys not getting calls this year – then bingo.
What the hell has this guy been googling?
I was just looking at the spreads for the NO, TB, Sea, and GB games. TB is likely to win easily at home against the Panthers (seriously, how screwed is that team with no 1st round pick), but every other game is a 3 point spread and divisional games are always quirky. If I were a betting man, I’d bet that NO, GB, and Sea all lose and the Vikings still don’t make the playoffs because they can’t beat Detroit.
will Detroit even play their starters?
regardless, Panthers couldn’t best Michigan.
Don’t know if lions locked into seed. Not read.
Dan Campbell said they’ll play their starters and they are in a state of “controlled rage” after the Dallas loss.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a starter or two hurt.
They probably will, they can still get to the #2 seed.
Good, dont want them to. I hope those other teams win. Go Lions. Lets get into that top 10
I’m fine if all the other teams win, except GB, FTP
Hey, they get a worse draft position if they do.
QB drama, LOL. Now i saw article linking our 1st round pick (currently 12) to the Bears for Fields who shown flashes of brilliance. I love speculation season.
Well, we have Speculation Season,
And disappointment season (when games are played).
At least Speculation Season provides hope.
No thanks on Fields though.
Fields? 😂
If Queasy makes that deal he needs to be fired immediately.
Amen!
If they get him for a 7th, fine, as long as they also draft one high.
I wouldn’t even waste a 7th on Fields. Get Minshew for next season and draft a QB high, though I don’t trust Queasy & Kumbaya Kev with that pick.
I’ll say this, I trust them a lot more than wReck/Zim
A tad more maybe, but not a lot more. Hope our next great QBOTF will flame out in an entertaining way.
If its true that KOC was the one to push for Addison, I’d be ok with him identifying QBOTF, or at least more confident than Kwesi.
Kev might be able to identify a good QB prospect, question is does he have enough pull to make sure that Queasy drafts his guy (instead of letting himself get shafted in yet another super smrt draft day deal).
After seeing how Kev handled the QB situ after we lost Kirk… well, not so sure about him getting the pick right. Wanted Harbaugh anyway, will be fun to watch them botching it, again (I DO hope they get it right for once though).
Yeah KOC hasn’t handled to QB situation perfectly after Kirk, not that any option was great, I mean its like, “ok who might turn the ball over the least?” I like Harby best, was ok with the KOC hire.
Should the Vikings bring Hunter back? Surely, we are on year infinity of that question. We could have never had him and still be in the same boat.
Sure he wants $20 mil 3 year at least, will turn 30. Pass.
So I just read that the Vikings still are “on the bubble” and have a 3% chance to make the playoffs. My reaction:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
even if the vikings chances of making the playoffs was ALL ON THEM, win and in, i would still laugh like that
Indeed. This team is finished for the season.
They just need to win and have 4 teams lose
I believe they only need the Pukers, Saints and Seahawks to lose along with a Vikings win.
Well they do actually need Detroit to lose.
Well, I thought the Vikings winning means Detroit loses.
Remember the 4th quarter stat put up that the Vikings had a 75% chance to beat the Bengals? Fun times
Yup, I remember that. That was the moment DOOM really set in, and KOC & Flores managed to lose the game. Sigh
The heart still beats.
Barely, and on life support. Looking forward to see how this shell of a team finishes the season.
I will be watching, but I expect them to get their ass kicked. It would be a good sign if they came out with some effort.
I am hoping for some signs of life from this team, they’ll most likely end up with another embarrassing loss, Kitties will want to go into the playoffs on a high note.
Kev’s Kumbaya Krew might just lie down and take the beating like a red headed step child.
I think the players have checked out and are ready for Caribbean vacations.
They sure deserve a nice Caribbean vacation after the great season they played
It looked like they checked out after the second possession Sunday and started new years drinking on the sidelines.
Who in their right mind would WANT to watch this shit show in the play offs? Im glad I missed the game Sunday night lol
The Hunter question is a bit loaded. Like all things in life there’s a value/cost proposition. ..
Now, we have very little talent on defense. We want and need a much better defense. Seems to me Hunter is our most talented defensive talent.
I’m no GM, but don’t understand getting rid of best player when there is such a void of talent on that side of the ball. I’m also one not to believe in the theory you have to go suck for a while so you can get better.
Good football teams and good GMs do not. We had Rick, and a very bad defense. I am willing to see what Kwesi does over the next three seasons before getting out my pitchfork, but he has not impressed me so far.
I do think that a tear-down /rebuild can make the improvement faster. Sucking for 1, or even two seasons is much better than 8-9 or first round playoff exits. I understand the win now mentality, but this team will not and cannot.
Roster needs a pretty big overhaul to compete with the best.
Hunter has been an injury prone malcontent, and looks to have vanished once he hit his last bonus. He can go away. Let someone else overpay.
I understand that, but don’t think that course is necessary.
If not for all the injuries (Kirk and JJ), and given the state of the NFC – Eagles, Cowboys and even Niners. somewhat, I feel this team “Might” have won a game or two in the playoffs.
Given that, find a stud IOL and a stud upfront seven guy for the defense, and our think we would field a really tough team next year.
Football is in the entertainment business. Customers (fans) have choices. You want to watch games like the other night. Many of those, I’m going fishing.
Team is 2-6 with their wonderful “Home Field Advantage”
That angers me enough for a complete tear down rebuild.
Too many holes to fill. they are not a few players away from competing.
I would disagree
I think they are a couple of key players from competing, starting with QB.
Well, we’ll just disagree on this. Defense, with little talent, did improve some. Offensive line did improve at pass blocking – not so much run blocking.
Team turned the ball over early and gave away some games, but were playing best teams in the league. After 49ers and Packers games, we seemed to have our act together, and if not for Kirk’s injury, were in great position to win a lot of games.
Every team has holes.
Just take the Lions game – they are one of best in NFC. With 4 interceptions, we are ONE play away from a win.
1-4 with Kirk and JJ. This logic that we would be a team NFC seed with both of them healthy is a fallacy. We would win MAYBE 9 games this season with them. Instead of 7. 11 or 12 is laughable.
Logic… fallacy. Vikings are 16-0 under KOC when we win turnover battle. Kinda affected beginning of season.
!2 – don’t know where that came from.
And its still an issue now. Kirk was and would have continued to produce turn overs as well.
Although it’s Tuesday, I’ve sworn off talking about the said QB. Seems a lot of folks, well maybe it’s just a few, have rather closed minds on the issue. Does make it tough to talk football sometimes. but it’ll work out.
The season really flew by this year, seems it was just a few weeks ago the Vikings we 1-4 with Kirk and ded, then the won a couple games, then Kirk blew his achilles, then some wins to get in the playoff picture, now 3 straight losses guarantees the Vikings will end the regular season with a losing record. Its been a roller coaster ride of a season but all things must come to an end. Detroit may have something to play for this Sunday or not, but I’d expect meathead Dan Campbell to play his starters at least some of the game anyway.
i was just thinking of this. The offseason doldrums are rapidly approaching
already here for me. I am just a bit angry with myself for climbing back on the Hopium train after the 0-3 start.
i ride that hopium train every year. doesn’t seem to be a reason not to.
I still have hope this year. All the Vikings need is for GB, NO, Seattle, and TB to lose and somehow beat Detroit, then the SB run starts
Actually I was wrong, they only need one of TB or NO to lose!
here we gooooooooooooooooo
I am for sure a Bears fan this Sunday. I just want FTP to fail
plus if fields plays decent, there is a CHANCE they keep their wagon hitched to him…
i can hope can’t i???
Same here
Yeah, they’ll probably get curb stomped again, but I will try to enjoy the last game Sunday as much as I can.
agreed.
at least the college football playoff games were good and entertaining.
Agreed, they were good games.
Yep, very good games, and no SEC team in the finals…
“no SEC teams in the finals”
FINALLY
very happy for a Michigan/Washington matchup. Great Offense vs Great Defense. Should be good
Meh, Washington’s defense isn’t that good
I expect Michigan to win, but will enjoy watching Penix play QB again.
He’ll suck in the NFL, might change my mind some depending on how he plays next Monday.
If the Vikings draft him, you are correct, he will suck or get murdered by our shit O line.
If the Falcons draft him, he will win 2 SuperBowls.
Might win 2 SBs as a backup someday
i know it’s not, but washington has a great offense.
michigan has an above average offense though so i think they will prevail. I’m definitely rooting for the wolverines and my hope for the vikings trade back into the first round draft pick Mccarthy
Bleh on McCarthy.
Not a fan at all.
that’s ok, we can be different…
i am kind of intrigued to see how this years “lot” of qb’s turn out.
May
Williams
Penix
Daniels
NIx
Mccarthy
who will rise to the top. lots of really good college qb’s
We know the Vikings will choose the wrong one.
oh for sure, i’m just curious to see who pans out and who doesnt
I am worried that they will draft the Crybaby once he ‘inexplicably’ drops in the draft.
I was kidding, but like all games, pending turnovers it will most likely come down to who owns the trenches. Michigan is the best team in the country at the LOS so I expect that to be the difference, but in one game anything can happen.
Yeah, I’m really glad the committee left FSU out, they would have just gotten their doors blown off. I very much enjoyed Alabama losing. As much as I wanted the Vikings to hire Harbaugh, he seems to fit best in CFB. I’m not sure how good of a championship game it will be, I think Michigan wins by 7+ but you never know.
yes i had to laugh at all the people mad at the committee for leaving FSU out, the people “suing” the committee etc….they looked like IDIOTS after the first quarter. FSU looked like the vikings out there
that bama Michigan game was really “big boy” football – big time hitting.
it was….i loved michigan’s defense, they have some studs on their Dline.
Happy Tuesday!
We get to talk about Kirko since it is a Tuesday.
I am glad Hall got the start, since he has proven what the coaches knew all along. Dude is not ready. Sad to say, out of the shit backups we have, Mullens is the best QB not injured that is on the roster.
Out of all the current Vikings, Kirko is my favorite. Yes, the QB room is that bad.
Next years preferred QB room for me.
Penix/Someone better than Mullens/ Mullens
What I expect to be the QB room next year
Kirko/Mullens/Future draft bust since Kwesi is so SMRT
Penix has the arm, but i tend to think he is more a “system qb”…. he sucked at indiana…
so is he a product of washingtons system or did he just need better coaching. IDK
He was running the ball at Indiana, so coaching and shit system imo.
He used to be ‘Run first’, and that is a recipe for dying in the NFL.
His arm talent is very good, and he can make all the throws needed, and has a quick release, and pocket awareness.
IMO he is a good fit for what KoC has been trying to do.
i agree he has the arm talent and sems to have the pocket awareness.
a couple of his throws last night were on the money as the pocket broke down…
Did you take gummies this morning? He wasn’t running the ball at Indiana. Penix has never been a running QB, Kirk Cousins probaly has as many college rushing attempts as Penix. Penix has more rushing attempts at Washington than he had at Indiana. I watched quite a few games of his at Indiana where they ran a pro style offense and he’s not good at reading defenses and going through progressions, many college QBs aren’t. But at Washington they run a prototypical college spread system and suddenly everyone thinks he’s the next Tom Brady when the reality is he’s more likely the next Gino Torretta.
Gino Torretta is an upgrade to our current QB room.
No gummies. I was basing that “running QB” take on pre game announcer saying he was expected to do more with his legs at Indiana vs WA
I normally only watch college football during bowl games, so I will admit I did not watch any Indiana games he played .
I like how he looks now. I know that
I was joking about the gummies, but now I question if the announcer was on something, Penix isn’t even particularly mobile, he’s ok as an athlete but nothing special but he has never been a running QB. I watch a lot of Big Ten football, basically any game I can. Saw plenty of him at Indiana and was never impressed overall, though he has a good arm. He was also ALWAYS hurt at Indiana
I don’t watch much college football so I am fairly ignorant. I did watch last nights games and what I did not like about Pentix is he gets his reads from the sideline..hate that. the whole get everybody set so the O coordinator can choose your read based on the defense and then signal it into you. It doesn’t give me much confidence in Pentix.
Yeah, that’s kind of how college football is going, though in the Big Ten you still have a fair amount of schools running pro style offenses
Yeah, from what I see, while he did run once in the game (that I saw) his strength is the ability to move around in the backfield and extend plays that way. Always looking to throw, and had a quick enough release and a cannon arm.
He does have a rocket, and I don’t hate him, but I always question QBs who were mostly middling in a pro style offense, then transferring and finding success in a spread, same reason I don’t like Nix.
Should the Vikings pay what it costs to bring back Hunter?
Nope
@Should they bring back the Couch?@
Made me LoL, even with the sarcasm.
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!
Still pissed off about Sunday night. What a shit game. FTP!
Always sucks to lose, and losing to FTP is the absolute worst.
and getting stomped by the Packers at home on primetime TV, is hell on earth…
One just knew that this would be how the game would go. Embarrassing loss, once again.