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An article about a potential trade of JJ for the #1 overall pick
Vikings re-sign Theo Jackson
‘No Reluctance‘ About Playing for Vikings on New Contract says JJ
QUESTION OF THE DAY
Would you include JJ in a trade for a potential franchise QB?
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Like to keep JJ. Roll the dice at #11, maybe we get lucky.
I believe one of the ‘top 4’ will be there.
If not pivot, build defense and trenches.
Correct. This team can’t afford giving up #1’s, too many issues.
Done waffling.
Would not trade JJ, a proven super star, for a ‘chance’ to get another one.
Yep, just use the picks you got. Plus, just think how good JJ will look under center when he has JJ, Hock and Addison to throw to. Get the man a running game and the Vikings will be SB bound.
To be fair, JJ has looked really good with Kirk throwing him the ball.
Not that I don’t want to draft a QB, I just don’t have any feel for any of the college QB’s and how that will translate into the NFL.
He’s getting schemed wide open A LOT. Its not like JJs completions are all contested tight window throws. An average NFL starter can hit wide open WRs, the problem is learning the reads and the line blocking long enough for those route to get schemed open. I dont have a feel either for any of the college QBs because I dont watch them. However, I do trust JJ to produce just fine with any QB with an arm under center. Which is why he will be fine the Vikings will be FINE when Kirk is gone.
Again, you and the Kirk thing. As always, it’s a matter of degrees.
And yes JJ will do fine with a great many QB’s – how ‘fine’ is the question and none of us know the answer to that.
A simple example might be the frist Detroit game. JJ caught a lot of balls. But we needed him to get just one more ball at the end. A throw with more RPM’s on it, or an even better,surer, play was to hit Nailor wide open at about the ten.
It’s not always scheme and big windows – review the end of Saints in London game last year. JJ one on one with Latimore at the end and we hit him for 50 yards and then kicked winning FG.
I don’t want JJ to perform at the 95th percentile, I want him at the 99th percentile. Just ‘fine’ is not really good enough for the best WR in football.
Well, then you and I will agree to disagree.
A sound conclusion.
I think I’m at this point, especially because KAM has not shown the ability to use the picks well anyway.
Summary:
Wren would trade all of you if he had the opportunity
Jrob wonders if DAF is a franchise QB
DE doesn’t think white people are worthy of contributing to society
Bow looks at pictures of redheaded black people
Masseuse’s get happy endings after messauging wren
Mjolnir cheats at jeopardy so his parents think he’s gifted
MT walks his dates by Hookers who say “you again?”
Really slow day
The Summary is early.
@we were just getting warmed up@
Are Hookers proper nouns?
I hear British Hookers are very proper.
Ummm.. A friend told me.
What will moon landing hoax-ists have to say if the Odysseus lander sends back pics showing an Apollo landing site as they fly by?
I hear you can see the POOF of dust with a really good pair of binocs!!
I think we should draft the qb that will have been, will be and will always be the best qb that ever has played football in the world, nay, the universe and all time. From Mid July to Mid February he will practice and play football for 16 hours a day and sleep for 8. He will not get married or have children because they will be a distraction. The rest of the year he will spend as much time as he can studying football and the rest of his time will be sitting on a street corner strumming a guitar accepting donations. That way he will always just accept the league minimum salary so we can afford to pay everyone else bucko bucks. He will also join every Viking blog (with Skoloholics being his most atended) and will stroke our egos with tales and wonders of his accomplishments. When he retires from the league at the age of 50, he can do whatever he wants. We are kind that way.
Sleeping 8 hours a day?
GD millennials.
I would hope bathroom breaks and showers are included in this portion.
Wouldn’t want to interrupt his ‘practice and play football’ time for that.
We need to make sure he becomes a Eunuch as well. If no wife, he will probably waste time pursuing tail, can’t have that.
I don’t understand; if you don’t have a wife, how can you have sex?
Well, usually you can’t, but you spend a lot of time trying.
Good point. It’s the bootstrap paradox – if only I could go back in time and tell myself don’t worry you’ll meet the one, I would have had more time for other pursuits, studied harder…then I might not have ended up leaving Canada and never met my wife…
Hookers
My random recollection of the day…walking to a restaurant with a date in downtown Edmonton (in college), and passing by a rather scantily clad lady who looked suspiciously like a working girl, and she said, “You again? You look way too young”. Haha.
LOL
For some reason my body has decided I can no longer sleep 8 hours. If I go to bed at 10pm I will wake up between 4 and 4:30, still feel sleepy, but will be unable to actually fall asleep just kind of be in a fog, then I feel tired all day. If stay up later I wake up at the required time and feel like I didn’t get enough sleep all day. Either way, at best I get 6.5 hours of sleep. I blame my two little tax credits, since before them I had no problems.
Normally I am at six and a half hrs of sleep a night.
In bed before midnight and up about 6:30 to spend some time with The Teacher before she leaves for work just after 7am.
Sometimes a little more sometimes less, maybe on the weekend sometimes I might get in a 7-8 hour nights sleep in,
I don’t get to sleep in on the weekend, the sleep terrorists still get up at 6 or 6:30.
My sleep terrorists are the dogs. They rarely let us sleep past 6:30 on the weekend.
Mine would let me sleep till 8 but then would start whining and wake me up. As the only other male in the house, he understands me on a different level.
I need my 8 hours or I’m crankier than usual. Children can be trained. If I got a brain tumor and then thought that it would be a good idea to have an animal in my house, it would either be trained or it would be swimming with the fishes.
If the ‘animal in your house’ was a fish then it would ‘swim with the fishes’ without having to ‘be trained’.
If I have a fish in my house that is loud enough to wake me up, then I probably have a whole other set of problems.
Dogs have their ways. It is only a matter of time before they wrap you around their finger and you are fixing them bacon wrapped chicken nuggets when they are off their food, wiping out ear and eye gunk with your finger, studying their poop for blood when they have dysentery, letting them have the lion’s share of the pillow when they are old and stiff but make the effort to jump on the bed, etc…
Just like grandkids.
It’s nice to have the grandkids visit. I don’t want to live with them. I raised one of the parents. Now it’s his turn.
Parenting is a young man’s game.
same
Out of necessity ours get fed at 6:00am M-F.
God FORBID we try and sleep in on the weekend…….
I’m very sleep oriented. I like to get as close to eight hours a night as possible. I don’t know which is more routine oriented, my dogs or I. I wrap up the foot rub at 9 pm, back in from running the dogs at 9:30, read for a half hour, lights out at 10, alarm goes off at 6 dogs are at the door ready to go etc.
For about 15yrs I worked the 2-10 pm shift at the prison.
Got home about 11 and in bed at midnight.
The Teacher had to leave for work about 7:15 so that set my sleep schedule.
Now that I am retired it hasn’t changed much, and I don’t really mind.
I’m usually good for no more than 6.5 – and for years it was often restless sleep where I’d get about 3 hours of actual sleep and the rest of the time I’d be in a half-doze and constantly moving to get comfortable. Eventually give up and start drinking coffee. Last few years I take a sleep med and I can get a solid 6 hours straight and be good to go.
VP you are the wise one.
Well said….
He should also take our well-thought out and highly experienced game advice to incorporate into the playbook and help him win games and our first Superb Owl.
Without question.
That was so obvious I didn’t even add it to the comment.
I have to do this, why not the QB who makes way more than I ever will?
Seems only fair.
DE, you should take next Tuesday off. It will improve your disposition and make you more productive.
You are welcome.
I am dominating Jeopardy! today.
These ‘teen week’ contestants are lucky I wasn’t there 10 years ago….
Mjolnir is the Jeopardy version of Uncle Rico
LMAO…..
When I was a kid there were two local channels that showed Jeopardy! One at 430 and another at 630. The same episode.
I’d get home off the bus at about 4 and watch the 430 episode.
Then my parents would get home and we’d watch the 630 episode – and I’d dominate. They had no idea there were two channels showing the same episode at different times.
This went on for weeks – and my parents had become convinced I was gifted and were talking about having me skip a grade or two.
Then I came home one day and my Dad was home early. And he was watching Jeopardy! – and he was belly laughing at the prank I pulled.
That awesome!
I haven’t watched Jeopardy since Alex Trebek passed away, might never again
There’s a whole Jeopardy! channel on Pluto – it’s all Trebek episodes so far. I do watch the new ones, but it’s not the same.
I’ll check out the pluto, would seem like a good thing to have on in the background while doing suff
That’s how I use it. Great if you don’t mind commercials. There’s several channels I’d recommend: The NFL Channel, The Jeopardy! Channel and the Bob Ross Channel – I use that one when I nap.
Love that he gets choked up there…..
Two hours until my massage!
I hope I don’t fart…
Are you expecting a happy ending?
It’s always a happy ending for the masseuse to get that much access to me!
Speaking of farting, though, one of the last massages I had years ago, the masseuse accidentally let one rip. She was super embarrassed and started apologizing.
I just went, “Huh What? Sorry, what did you say? I was asleep…”
Then she was like, “Nothing. My stomach was gurgling…”
“Oh…no problem. Never heard it.”
See, chivalry is not dead!
First time I got a haircut in Korea the barber grabbed my neck and shoulder at the end, She was small so I wasn’t scared just surprised, and she was at the wrong end for a ‘happy ending’.
Back/neck rubs are normal there for the finish of a haircut, not sure if is to help with getting a tip or if is considered an actual part of the haircut.
But it was the ‘usual’ the rest of the time in Korea (1 year) even when I asked them not too.
At least on the east coast, if you go. into a barbershop with Asian barbers, you will get a neck and shoulder massage.
Could be the same here on the west coast. The only Barbershop I have been to here on the left coast with Asian Barbers are at the AFB and they are usually Filipinos.
I was stationed there ’91-’92 – the first time they cracked my neck was quite a surprise.
Who’da thunk that a complimentary Chiropractic degree comes with graduating beautician school?!?!
That’s legit always a worry… they have to be use to it. EAT SOME BEANS!
Thought you were against global warming – oops, meant climate change.
Just do yoga first, that’ll clear out all the gas.
The man, the myth, the legend who is Alex Boone (Former Viking Trash lineman) ripping on Kirko for taking Tuesday’s off.
Ex-Vikings linemen offended by Kirk Cousins taking days off – Sports Illustrated Minnesota Sports, News, Analysis, and More
I was offended by the terrible offensive lineman that Alex Boone was…..
Dudes been to the SB at least.
So have the Vikings… 4 TIMES! Same result though lol
Not in our life times. So, a little irrelevant to my point. He can rip on Kirk if he wants. Justified.
I know, just being a smart ass.
Fair enough!
Wasn’t really a defense of Kirko. Was more about telling Boone STFU and GTFO. He was good for sound bites and using boxing gloves on the sidelines during warmups – then he’d get his ass whooped.
Yeah he was washed by time he got to the Vikings, its not like we shelled out a bunch to get him. He wasnt great but the hate some of the fan base has for him is a little weird to me.
I saw that, too. On one hand, I get where Kirk is coming from.
On the other hand, the NFL season is super compact and every game is fairly important. I doubt the Patriots took days off.
Actually, Edelman was talking about this with Robert Horry on his podcast. He was comparing the NBA schedule to the NFL schedule. Horry talked about how they had no curfew and partied whenever they went anywhere.
Edleman said that doesn’t happen in the NFL…or at least on the Patriots. They had curfews and meetings continuously. Edleman said he was in the “office” by 5:15 a.m. every day. And he didn’t say it was because they were so disciplined. He said it was because they only had 16 games to work with, so they needed to make the most of their time.
Read this the other day and made me wonder.
Looking over Kirk’s career I’d guess if anything he over thinks and over prepares – a little to stiff and mental at times.
If I was his boss, I might actually tell to go do more relaxing things.
Well, that’s the rub on Kirko yet we are called haters.
Watching the netflix show, I loved how Kirko was the only QB of the three that refused to work on Tuesday.
Shows how important family is vs winning football games. I admire that as a father, but hate it as a Vikings football fan.
Get to work, dammit. Look at Mahomes, he is not slacking on Tues!
Hoping the guy they draft is not a slacker
Would you really want to go home to britney and jackson?
This is a really good point.
Thats what im saying, he’s a good dude, but he should be coaching at a faith based school some where in the mid west, not QBing on a team thats starved for a SB.
Well he’s the QB for the biggest faith based fanbase in the Midwest… we have faith… THAT ONE DAY they’ll win the big one! We must believe! lol
I would say Jaded more than faith based lol. The generation that actually watched the 70s SBs (my Dad) are so numb and not caring that it would take the Vikes actually GETTING to the SB for them to break out of their shell a little.
Can confirm. Shitload of family in SW Minnesota that grew up in the SB heyday of the Purple People Eaters that are exactly that: numb. They watch games as background noise and with the exceptions of FTP & Dallas (my uncles DESPISE Dallas) don’t really pay attention until playoff time -if the Vikings are relevant.
I have no faith the Vikings will win the SB in my lifetime
How old are you?
16
lol, checks out
I’m sure that Tuesday is what is the difference.
Some talk below about Chicago draft and Fields. Heard this a couple of weeks back and opened my eyes some. A bit of paraphrase.
During Fields streak of ‘improvement’ he averaged 200 yards a game, 1 TD pass. a completion percentage in high 50’s, and a QB rating 20 points below league average. And have since learned has the lowest QB rating in the fourth quarter of any QB.
That is the high water mark after three years.
You want to tie your wagon to that star?
no sir, no way, no how.
I wouldn’t mind the Vikings bringing him in as a cheap backup and still draft one. Fields is only 1 year older than Bo Nix but has experience in the league. I think his ceiling is still higher than Nix at this point too. This would also not preclude a Kirk extension. A Kirk/JJ/Fields QB room would look pretty nice. Give Fields a chance to sit behind Kirk for a year or two and then trade him. If you get him for a 7th and are able to get a 4th out of him that is still a win.
Reasonable. But I think there are people out there (not here) that believe Bears are going to get some fortune for him.
They will get far more from the #1 overall than Fields IMO.
Man, I hate the idea of trading a generational player away… dumb shit can happen. Like getting rid of Moss and getting a shitty LB in return and drafting a WR that can’t catch a cold naked in Alaska.
Im a fan of paying JJ what he wants. Im 60/40 on keeping him vs trade, however, if we get into the top 3 and draft a QB and get a 2025 high pick in return…I might be down for that.
Yes, that is a valid concern.
I am listening to Godsmack today. There once was a guy on Daily Norseman who knew the Godsmack singer before he became a rock star. Was that you?
Their self-titled album was one I listened to constantly when it was released. Named after an AiC song….
They have a good sound. The lead singer seems like a bit of a twerp, but I have to admit that he has a killer voice.
Great live show.
Agreed, they know how to put on a show.
I was in middle school when it came out and LOVED their first album. I heard the band name was inspired by the guitarist had a huge canker sore and the singer gave him shit for it and the next day the guitarist’s was gone and the singer had one and someone else in the band said, that’s called a “Godsmack” and the name stuck…
I had heard they got their name from the AiC song ‘God Smack’ from the Dirt album. Could be wrong.
Both could be true. Maybe he said that’s called a Godsmack and he knew that because of the song…
Nope, I wish. I did not know Sully.
My band has a song that our drummer calls our Godsmack song. lol. Drummer spent most his life playing in death metal bands since the late 80s early 90s, so when the other guitarist pitched these riffs, the drummer was like, damn I feel like I’m playing Godsmack lol. I think it’s good to have a track that’s more mid-tempo and a bit easier style riffing.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GRHay2sXa-QDJpR6crXU0UU2A46cHRF9/view?usp=drive_link
Fun stuff!
Looks like Gone Fishin’ on the blue guitar!
Really? Maybe it is, is his name Frank as well? lol
QofDay: Yes, but I would like the trade to happen before the draft starts. If the top 4 QBs are taken right away and we have to scramble to move up, there is a better chance of getting swindled, ala the Detroit trade.
I am thinking if 4 QBs are taken in the top 10 picks that will leave lots of excellent players on the board.
May want to consider taking advantage of that by building up the trenches and defense and pivoting to alternate plan for QBTF, be that QB from the next lvl tier that has promise, FA that could be had/fixed, or next years draft. Heck maybe even teaching Mullins not to throw Ints.
It might go that way.
Although I think next year’s QB class isn’t very good from what I’ve read.
You never know, last years draft was supposed to be very good as well, but overall its not impressive so far, Young sucked, Stroud was excellent, Richardson sucked and got hurt, Levis was inconsistent.
Remember Skolly pounding the table for us to move into the top 10 and take Levis?
Yes, its always weird how based on the film of the players they are ranked a certain way, then after pro days and the underwear olympics guys like Richardson shoot up the draft board, even though his stats were crap at Florida, or players like Levis go later than expected. I’m not sure Skolly was completely in love with Levis specifically, but at that time Levis was expected to be in a more realistic area for the Vikings trade up for than any of the others.
The combine and pro days are often what gets a guy drafted way higher than he should be. Remember Mike Mamula? He trained specifically for the combine and was drafted 7th overall. And never lived up to that billing. There are other examples. But his name sticks out to me.
Yeah, he might have been the first player to train specifically for the combine. He never lived up to a top ten pick, but was productive. I think he retired pretty early due to injuries.
It could just as easily go like the last couple of years and all of these QBs mocked in the 1st round fall.
Moon landing at 5:30 Eastern today.
It’s been 50 years since the US has landed on the moon.
https://www.space.com/intuitive-machines-im-1-private-moon-landing-webcast
Obligatory…
I saw somewhere that wasn’t scripted… He saw the paper and just went for it haha.
I heard that as well. I heard the big gulps scene wasn’t scripted either. The guys weren’t even supposed to be in the movie or were supposed to just stand there.
The most annoying sound I heard was as well.
A shitload of that movie was ad-libbed. When Carrey whacks Daniels in the back with the cane – all Jim Carrey on his own.
cool
LOL….
Kirko ‘s choice of teams might now be fewer…..
“Fewer”
We’ve been told that there is no way Kirk is re-signing with the Vikings.
I’d say the odds are low, but if nobody likes his demands of fully guaranteed contracts, his best deal might be the Vikings. Or retiring.
I was just congratulating you on proper grammar.
It’s not me. It’s my AI bot.
LOL.
I just noticed that that is Joe, Jill and Mabelle.
Looks like a wack-a-mole…..
He is going to Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh – A to Z Sports
Doesn’t seem like a Pittsburgh type of move.
They are about $16 million over the cap currently.
Despite NLV’s pronouncements ,Cousins will have his hands under Bradbury’s butt come September.
Won’t shock me if it happens.
We are trading Bradbury?
If the Nightmare does continue, I hope its under the Vikings demands and not his. Thats the only way I would stay sane.
@this is fake. we have been told JJ only wants Kirk as his QB@
Q of the Day…..
It all depends on the trade.
Straight up JJ and number 11 for the top spot?
I’d say no to that.
Apparently, these are what the original Vikings looked like, according to Google AI.
AI is a joke, just for fun I asked it the other day if raising tax rates to 100 percent would increase revenue for the federal government. It said yes.
LOL…….
Clearly a communist set this up.
The only way you would get collection on 100% of people’s income is forced labor.
Garbage in = garbage out
I saw when where somebody asked for a picture of a ginger person and all four were black.
Yep.
There are no white people worthy of any contribution to society.
Yes. Please.
QofD; A question first – what is a ‘franchise QB’? To me, Mahomes and Goff are both franchise QB’s but there is quite a difference. That’s probably a bit unfair as there is only one Mahomes. But aren’t DAF and Tua franchise QB’s?
I consider franchise QB an automatic playoff appearance every year no matter the roster.
I still think the phrase “top 10 QB” is given too much weight in the NFL. It is built off the 100-percent paradigm.
A true top 10 QB in the NFL is one of the top three since there are only 32 teams.
Playoff appearance every year? Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert come to mind.
Think the odds of getting what you want are very very slim. Just getting a top 10 QB is slim enough.
That’s the Vikings problem, not mine!
Neat article listing the 33 times an NFL team strung 5 or more consecutive playoff seasons together. The record is 11 seasons, with Brady at NE’s helm.
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/every_nfl_team_that_made_five_straight_playoff_appearances_010724/s1__37011188#slide_31
Vikings made the list twice, a span from ’73-’78 with Tark, and again from ’96-’00 with Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham, Jeff George, and Daunte Culpepper having a part in it. A few other teams had 2-3 QBs during their streaks as well.
Although the 4-QB span shows that you don’t absolutely have to have a true franchise QB to do it, the vast majority of the 33 streaks DID have one QB leading the team through the streak – names like Marino, Manning with Colts, Manning with Broncos, Montana, Young, Favre, Rodgers, Shula, Bradshaw, Aikman, Wilson, Allen, Mahomes…..
So, yeah – looks like the odds of stringing wins and playoff appearances go up when you find a really good QB.
Nice read. appears to be some difference in terminology of your ‘really good’, ‘franchise’. and even elite QB’s.And a lot of HOFers are getting into the mix.
“Really good” could be understating their talent a little.
I’m simply happy with drafting a QB that turns out to be ‘really good’ and can be a 10 year starter for the team.
Just being able to draft and accomplish that is I believe a major accomplishment.
Correct.
Good analogy.
Unless QB stats are your definition of a franchise QB.
so you wouldn’t take a Trevor Lawrence or Justin Herbert then?
I would take them.
Lawrence and Herbert have both made the playoffs.
Still young. I’d bet they are both back in the playoffs in 2024.
Wouldn’t you?
Of course, just responding to the absoluteness of your post.
Nothing absolute about my post.
Both Lawrence and Herbert have been to the playoffs.
But they don’t have the career length to establish “consecutive” playoff appearances.
I’d put Lamar in that conversation, but he seems to consistently lose in the playoffs.
Huh. thought WR said ‘absolute playoff appearance every year.’ And you agreed even adding like unless y9u are into ‘stats’.
Didn’t seem like much wiggle room there – but not really a big deal.
I haven’t said they were franchise QB’s.
Would I try them? Yep.
As opposed to Dak and Kirko?
They are both a no.
I would take them, though neither are yet a franchise QB.
I would definitely take Herbert and see what happens. It is possible that guys are hamstrung by coaching. I’m not completely inflexible in my ideas.
I am SUPER curious to see how the Chargers do with Harbaugh. It is probably my number-one interest in the upcoming season.
Exactly the point – there’s a little bit more nuance here that has bearing.
Are you trolling or really asking?
A franchise QB is a QB that is good enough that there is never a question of “who is the starter next year?” as long as that QB is on the roster.
It really is that simple.
Trolling?
Question to me is simply then. I wouldn’t trade JJ to draft DAK or Tua as they are the starters next year.
However, Mahomes and Jackson are also starters next year, but I would trade JJ to get one of them.
So Kirk is a franchise QB?
Yes.
In the sense that he is the QB of the Vikings franchise, yes.
Yes.
I would like them to get a less expensive franchise QB on a rookie contract, and decide after year 4 if they wanna be poor again.
A true franchise QB can make players around them better, like Brady or Mahomes, that is not Goff, who is, like Cousins, a mirror QB.
Would I include JJ in a trade for a potential franchise QB?
I would include all of you in a trade for a potential franchise QB!
QOTD: Nope.
Draft a QB and keep Mullens.
That’s the idea of trading JJ
But many mocks have provided us with a decent QB without trading up.
Take the day-1 starter at edge, then do some negotiating to make sure we are in position to take JJ and keep JJ.
Reports are JJ might not even be available at 11.
I think Daniels (occasionally), JJ (usually) and Nix (always) are all possibilities at 11.
If you think you have to have Maye, or The Crybaby (gag) then a trade up is required.
Thinking you can get JJ 2nd round because of Mocks will probably leave you disappointed come Draft Day.
Plausible, but I’m not convinced.
Chi – QB????
Wash – QB
NE – QB
Ariz – No qb
LAC – No qb
NYG – QB ???
TN – No qb
Atl – QB
Chi – QB ???
NYJ – No qb
I’d say 3 QB’s are gone.
I’m not buying Chicago’s PR. I think they are trying to get picks.
I won’t believe Chicago is picking a QB until Fields is traded. Even if they don’t trade #1, if Fields is on the roster come draft day they are going MH Jr.
Multiple other teams behind the Vikings need a QB as well and its a lot easier to trade up to 9 or 10 than it is into the top 3.
Just saw a mock on NFL.com that has us trading up with Tennessee to snag McCarthy….
I love it.
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!
Thorsday!