Minnesota Vikings Discussion – SkolAsylum: 23 August 2024

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Team signed a few more bodies for the game tomorrow. Roster cuts will be interesting.

Two games last night, three tonight, and the final practice games wrap this weekend. It is interesting to see how the different teams are handling this final preseason game in regards to playing time for starters. Hoping no more major injuries happen. Lets get to the regular season as healthy as possible.

Are you attending the Minnesota State Fair? If so, name your “must have” treats. Mini-donuts and cheese curds for me, but this year I am trying new things instead.

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No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 7:29 pm

After Harris’ acceptance speech, the New York Times spoke to voters outside the DNC who expressed doubts about Harris’s ability to turn the country around. 

One voter said he did not like the Democrat’s rhetoric on race—stating his support for Trump.

“Their whole messaging is always, ‘You need to vote for us because we’re the good white folks, and they’re the bad white folks,’” the voter said. “That has been their pitch for decades.”

Exactly

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 7:40 pm

Not sure I trust that type of reporting done ‘small scale’.
You can find people to say anything if you look a little bit.
String together a video to support your personal narrative and suddenly you are a ‘journalist’.
Both sides can and do do it. I hope there are more on my side than there other but there is no way to tell at this point.

No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 5:58 pm

Some teams playing their starters a lot in preseason, some not at all.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 6:46 pm

I believe that is pretty typical.
Teams and ‘starters’ are in different situations each year.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 6:51 pm

Yeah, some coaches are worried about injuries, some are worried about getting the starters ready to play when the season starts.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 7:04 pm

Will the Vikings start Gilmore?
He need reps to get more familiar with the scheme but he is older and played in Coach Flo’s system back in the day.
Arguments for and against it.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 7:18 pm

Yeah, late additions to the roster need reps. They need to do some work. They haven’t been through OTA’s and training camp with the team. Sitting on the sideline isn’t gonna get them ready for week one.

norseman1
norseman1
23 August 2024 4:43 pm

27 times!? Think enuf. Prob watch some of game, mostly 1st have. Not sure how many numbers i’ll even know.

No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 4:39 pm

New York City Mayor Eric Adams is denying a woman’s claims that he sexually assaulted her over three decades ago.

In a virtual hearing on Friday, the attorney for Adams (D-N.Y) called the case “fictitious” and rejected the possibility of settling the case, leading to a heated exchange where the plaintiff’s attorney threatened a defamation lawsuit.

The lawsuit was brought forward by Lorna Beach, who alleges that Adams assaulted her in 1993 during their time in the New York Police Department (NYPD).

Hmmmmm… remember when that gal accused Justice Kavanaugh during his confirmation? Came out of nowhere, and said he sexually assaulted her on an unspecified date in the early 1980s, when both she and Kavanaugh were high-school students. 

Yeah, it was a totally bogus attempt to keep Kavanaugh off the bench, as the Dem’s were trying to hang it on him.

I bet we don’t hear a peep from all those folks about this accusation, or worse, they will overtime to discredit the woman.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 4:56 pm

Well they would never try something like that with Trump.
And if they did the ‘upstanding’ NY judicial system would stop it cold.

Oh wait.

No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 4:27 pm

I read this:

Tim Walz, previously claimed that despite being able to retire from the military the same week as the 9/11 terrorist attacks, he courageously felt obligated to his country to re-enlist. However, Walz wasn’t qualified to retire and receive benefits until 2002, according to the Minnesota National Guard.

I was sort of struck by the “courageously felt obligated to his country to re-enlist” comment. Like he was laying his life on the line or something. Then he bolts when his unit is actually scheduled to deploy. He lied and said he could have retired, and then misrepresented his decision to re-enlist as some courageous act. Galling. All Vets should be voting against this guy.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 4:59 pm

I looking into reenlisting after retirement when 9-11 happened but they said I wasn’t needed at that point but they would make an announcement if that changed.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 5:09 pm

I remember the day well. Was at a 3 day conference, and all of a sudden folks are talking about the Twin Towers, and the Pentagon. Conference canceled, we all high-tailed it back.

No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 2:32 pm

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. withdrew from the race and endorsed former President Donald Trump, as expected. Hopefully his voting bloc will feel the same way.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 3:01 pm

I have read that half his base was anti Biden and those have already bailed on him when FJB quit. Hence his falling support.

The other half is more in line with Trump and so they may give DT a point or two of support. That could be enough to make a difference, in any case it will not hurt.

DE Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 3:46 pm

I watch most of his presser.
Pretty stunning that an old liberal democrat would just rip the current DNC structure and call them out.

Will see what happens.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 3:51 pm

My memory may be a little rusty, but when his Uncle ran against Carter, he was allowed to be on the ballot. Democrats pulled every stunt to keep Robert off the ballot this time. Can see where he’s a little pissed at the DNC.
And he’s said all along, the Democrats were more of a threat to democracy than Trump.

No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 2:28 pm

Found this interesting…

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 2:32 pm

Why are we not listed as #10 when we have the same # of points as the SeaChickens?
NFL bias obviously.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 2:33 pm

Alphabetical order, probably.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 2:34 pm

That doesn’t stop them from listing us both as #10 since we are tied for that spot.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 2:52 pm

Agree

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 1:58 pm

So no one attended/is attending the State Fair so they can’t answer the QOTD?

The Teacher and I went to a smaller county fair a couple of weeks ago.
She got a big plate of Nachos and I went and found a Funnel Cake with Strawberries and Whipped Cream.

We both shared since they each were large enough. Pretty decent meal.

pirateflip
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 2:03 pm

Not going, but if I was I usually try to find something I haven’t had before.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  pirateflip
23 August 2024 2:10 pm

Have not been to a fair since Nephews grew up, maybe 10-12yrs.
I always like funnel cake so got that as a craving.
The Teacher was hungry and chose the Nacho’s.
Said afterwards she was disappointed in them but my tastes are not so sophisticated so they were fine.

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 2:15 pm

I’ve never been to the MN state fair, or for that matter any of THE state fairs (Montana’s is in Great Falls).

At the smaller fairs @I usually go with a kale smoothie and Mediterranean salad@

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
23 August 2024 2:22 pm

Mostly county fairs for me.
There is one in Boise currently but I don’t know if that is The State Fair or not. We decided that one fair this month was enough, not interested in crowds.

As for you food choices all I can say is ‘Veggies are the food that my food eats’.

JacksonVike
Reply to  MT Viking
23 August 2024 2:56 pm

Do they even know what that is in Montana?

VikingPhilip
23 August 2024 1:10 pm

We need some real football to talk about.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  VikingPhilip
23 August 2024 1:13 pm

OK, heard Falcons are going to win 12 games this year with their new veteran QB. That’ll get the boys going.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 1:21 pm

Laughing

NoDakRube
Reply to  VikingPhilip
23 August 2024 1:54 pm

I am definitely going to watch Hall tomorrow…would be nice if he could be an adequate backup.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
23 August 2024 2:01 pm

He had a perfect passer rating last week.
The only question is do the Vikings use a roster spot or put him on the PS.

DE Viking
23 August 2024 10:03 am

Sounds like it’s Hall and Corral.

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 10:43 am

I will probably try to watch some of it.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
23 August 2024 10:52 am

I will watch.
Unless something else comes up that is more fun to do tomorrow.

Northwoods
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 11:54 am

Hopefully Corral will do something other than look like a lost puppy this time.

DE Viking
Reply to  Northwoods
23 August 2024 11:59 am

Going to be hard to achieve that as he was signed this week and playing with the bottom of the roster.

Northwoods
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 2:18 pm

I was going to cut him slack since his Viking uniform still had creases in it during last week’s game, but then I realized he had been a Viking for one day, but he’s been a quarterback for years.

He didn’t look like much of a quarterback in the plays vs Cleveland. He had trouble getting out of the way of the RB, and was strip-sacked for a safety.

Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 9:47 am

I’m just glad these posts aren’t… Wierd 🤣.

Also apparently KOC is the only coach on the Vikings. The rest aren’t coaches hahaha. What a sad petty idiot.

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Edgecrusher71
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 9:50 am

Let’s STIR this pot!

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 9:54 am

Best President I have ever served.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 9:59 am

The best thing that could happen to Trump is if he broke both of his hands so he couldn’t tweet. .Yes Waltz was obviously ‘coach’ – he was defensive Coordinator for the state championship team and apparently pretty good at it. Defensive Coordinator is a pretty big job in a large high school – so to minimize it and make fun of it is stupid.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
23 August 2024 10:05 am

Yeah, I don’t get the “he wasn’t a coach” thing.
I mean he wasn’t a head coach but who cares.
More important things to be concerned about.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 10:43 am

Let’s just call him Command Sergeant Major.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 10:46 am

He did serve as a CSM and held the rank.
He did not retire as a CSM as he didn’t meet all the requirements.

The issue is not his service, which was honorable.
The issue was his lying about it afterwards which was not.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 10:54 am

You have more military experience than I do, and certainly more recently although I worked with retired millitary my entire life. Never once knew of anyone who misrepresented his rank after they retired

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 10:59 am

He did not hold the rank. He never sewed it on. He also was “hired” into the rank as you know. The reserves promotions are based on vacancies, and hiring actions. He never met a promotion board in his 24 year career.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 11:03 am

So he was a SGM frocked to SCM?

Don’t know much about how NG ranks work, especially once you get higher up.

I have no doubt Politics is involved, it is in the active army as well.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 11:08 am

No… he was MSGT.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 11:11 am

Sargent Major, E8, is a SGM.
Never heard of a MSGT.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 11:21 am

Master Sergeant (MSG) and First Sergeant (1SG) are the two E-8 ranks in the Army. Sergeant Major is the E-9 rank. A Command Sgt Major is an elevated E-9 position at a Higher Echelon of Command.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 11:29 am

Thank you for the reminder.

Was confusing MSG and SGM as in Staff positions there is not much difference.

Actually trying to remember if I ever worked with a SGM. Maybe in 1st Cav’s Div Support Command? MI Bde S-3 SGM?

Getting old is tough.

Northwoods
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 12:00 pm

MSGT is also E7 in the Air Force. Senior Master Sergeant is E8, and Chief Master Sergeant is E9.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 11:13 am

Was going to ask you a question about NG. And I am very dated and was first in service when draft was around.
Thus, when I was in, the NG was a joke. We called them dipidy doo warriors. Most all were in to avoid the draft. And you had to be very connected to get it.
Now, after the wars in the Middle East and the call ups of the NG, realize there has been some change.
Where do you see the NG now?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 11:17 am

We called the NG ‘No Goods’ but not to their face of course.

I suspect, like you, that changed during the Gulf War and aftermath.

I won’t disparage them now as they went when called and did their duty.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 11:35 am

Even later I had several Reservists work for me. Went their once and month, two weeks in summer, and collected their money and quite happy.
And then then Gulf War hit, and they got called up for extended active duty. They were very unhappy then.
Quite a few articles in the WSJ at the time about all these guys trying to get out of duty. Seems they didn’t sign up to be ‘real soldiers,’

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 12:39 pm

I was in the national guard. I actually signed up with the guards because I wanted to go to Dessert Storm. Unfortunately, I was only 17 when Operation Desert Storm started and it was over before I turned 18 and graduated.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JacksonVike
23 August 2024 12:43 pm

My reference to the NG was a very long time ago. And I don’t want (mean) to equate it to today’s circumstances.
Just out of curiosity, why NG and not RA?

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 12:46 pm

I would say that today’s NG is a lot different then you remember.

Even when I was in, there were old school guys that really needed to retire. They would complain about having to do actual drills. They would talk about the “old days” where they would come in and just sit around and drink and play poker.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 12:50 pm

Just out of curiosity, why NG and not RA?

I was still in high school, so I could not join RA.

I was hoping to have my basic training done between Jr and Sr year, which they changed the rules and didn’t allow anymore. I was hoping after graduation, I would be able to go fight in Operation Desert Storm, but like I said it was over almost before it started.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JacksonVike
23 August 2024 12:53 pm

Thanks. When I was in you didn’t have to have a HS diploma and cold be 17. They would take any warm body.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 2:59 pm

I was able to join and go to drills, but If my unit would have been deployed, I would not have been able to go.

USAF82
USAF82
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 11:28 am

We called them tampons as they only in once a month. Certain Gov resembles that remark

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  USAF82
23 August 2024 11:36 am

Were you AF? My Dad was retired AF.

USAF82
USAF82
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 12:05 pm

yes 21 years and then 15 working for AF and Army

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  USAF82
23 August 2024 12:07 pm

That’s a lot of great service to the country – thank you.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 11:36 am

The Guard isn’t great, but they fulfill a need. They’re citizen soldiers, and most just do it for the pay and benefits. I deployed with a Guard unit during an action in Bosnia, and all I heard from them was complaints about having to actually do their job. I dressed down their O-6 for their lack of professionalism.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 11:40 am

When I went thru basic, you had to say whether you were RA, AR, or NG coming into mess hall. DI’s always made the NG eat last as they. didn’t think they were real soldiers.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 11:53 am

I think that’s a bit much, because they all got their heads shaved, and had to go the Basic Training regimen the same as everyone else, but DI’s aren’t there to be your friend.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 12:08 pm

Shit no, they hardly tried.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 11:55 am

You guys are fucking hilarious. He’s a liar, true but the nick pickiest bastards about Walz but have no issues with what a liar Trump is mixed with dodged the military with heal spurs. Trump is a draft dodger who brags about how tough he is. gtfo, ugh. But you’re gonna try and defend your stance with some mental gymnastics.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 12:00 pm

Were you in the service?

MT Viking
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 12:07 pm

Not sure what tangent you’re trying to take. I don’t know anyone that defends Trump on this matter, nor have I ever heard him claim he served in the military. I’m much more invested in policy.

I do think it is important to have someone that served (Walz/Vance) either in or adjacent to the oval office. I don’t fault the service of Walz, I fault the stolen valor. I sincerely doubt that makes a difference to the average voter that probably can’t tell the difference between a lieutenant and lieutenant colonel but it certainly makes a difference to command sergeant majors.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 12:07 pm

Laughing… I guess you are completely uninformed about how Biden avoided the draft, and then claimed he had a nomination to the Naval Academy, huh?

You might also note, that more than half of the 27 million American men eligible to be drafted during the Vietnam era were deferred, exempted, or disqualified.

So Trump was one of about 13.5 million young men.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 12:17 pm

I might just add this.
It seems that guys that actually served in the. military take it far more seriously when someone lies about their rank or being in actual combat than people who didn’t serve.
And clearly, we take those kind of lies more seriously than the normal politician bull shit we hear from both sides.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 12:29 pm

Trump was deferred from the draft for college four times. I had many friends who went that route, and I also knew many who were exempted for bad knees, bad feet, etc.

Stolen valor is a far more serious trespass, than avoiding the draft. Biden lying about his Naval Academy appointment is also sickening. How dare he profess such a thing?

By the way, Biden received five student draft deferments, first as an undergraduate at the University of Delaware and later as a law student at Syracuse University.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 12:33 pm

But Trump never claimed to have gone to war, there in lies the difference.

Yes Trump lies, I don’t know a single person, who has never lied.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
23 August 2024 2:17 pm

I think most of Trumps ‘lies’ are more like exaggerations.
‘Best ever’ or crowd size or ‘blood everywhere’ etc. He grew up a businessman and he is used to talking up his business.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
23 August 2024 2:20 pm

I agree with this. He’s a born promoter, so I do see where he exaggerates on some things. Biden on the other hand has blatantly lied through his teeth his whole career.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JacksonVike
23 August 2024 3:09 pm

But Trump never claimed to have gone to war, there in lies the difference.

Exactly…..

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 10:55 am

Well yeah.
I get that Walz lies with just about anything he does, so by saying “coach” he gets to give the impression that he was the head coach.

But for Trump to waste his time about that, doesn’t seem like a wise strategy IMO.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 11:58 am

Trump is just belittling his opponents as is his want. Some folks are put off by his somewhat overbearing nature, but when you’re going to be a world leader, you better be overbearing. You think Putin respects Kamala? He’s laughing his ass off that she could be his next foe.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 12:31 pm

but when you’re going to be a world leader, you better be overbearing

Yet somehow we’ve survived as a country having had only one president in my lifetime (since 1967) that is as overbearing as Trump, the one exception being Trump himself. And, to be clear, my vote helped put him in office in 2016.

Leaders can demonstrate determination and a strength of personality without being overbearing about it. But, for better or worse, Trump’s style is “one note” and I think a lot of folks are starting to tune him out, including some of his base constituents.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  skolifer
23 August 2024 1:02 pm

Have you ever even sat in a room full of world leaders?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 1:11 pm

I think this is where two things can be right and yet also both be incorrect.
I think ( actually know) the public Trump is far different than the private Trump.
Skolifer’s statement ‘leaders can demonstrate…….’, is far more like the private Trump.
Now, the public “one note” has some merit, but I would maintain even a one trick pony is better than a no trick pony.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 1:19 pm

I have seen how Trump interacts with world leaders. He commands the room. Saying “we got along fine without an overbearing president” is actual misstatement of reality. Our country has been dragged around by the nose for decades. Trump is the first U.S. President in my lifetime that started kicking sand in the face of these countries who take our money, then decry us.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 1:26 pm

i agree with that. He does command the room and everyone knows we (US) are not going to be dragged around. And he sure as hell got NATO’s attention.
But privately, with his staff and other leaders, he is not the overbearing ass that he can come across in public. He is thoughtful, smart and is a great listener. Also has great empathy for others.
Simply, there is a lot more to him than people give him credit for.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 1:30 pm

He is… I wonder how you might know that?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 1:38 pm

I’ve met him.
Since it appears one can get attacked here personally if they might have more actual experience than others, best not to mention too much.
My exploits are hardly ‘worldly’ anyway, but I did live in DC for 50 years and have made several trips to Palm Beach. And about a month or so ago, had an interesting dinner with Bill Barr.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 1:45 pm

Ahhh soooo… what I loved about Bill was his stance on crime. He advocated for tougher criminal justice policies, while folks wanted to go the other way in Government.

Had a tough road to hoe with the Trump AG appointment. Land mines everywhere.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 1:53 pm

Save for the last month, Barr had nothing but high praise for Trump. He fully understood the showman and the private guy.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 1:58 pm

And, I think there’s something a lot of folks don’t understand – these guys can be 180 privately from what they appear in public. For instance, good old Uncle Joe is a complete asshole privately.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 2:01 pm

This I know

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 2:09 pm

I know you know, not so sure about others.
And I fully appreciate you have been in some “big time” rooms with a great many important people

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 2:13 pm

Yes, but I’ve never met Kirk Cousins… grin.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 2:18 pm

Well I’ve never jumped out of an airplane.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 1:25 pm

Have you ever even sat in a room full of world leaders?

lol…no, I haven’t, but I guess this gives you the opportunity to tell us all about your worldly exploits…again.

Unlike some, I don’t need to tout my experience and success to feel secure and credible when commenting on topics. I’m also confident my lack of “room full of world leader” experience doesn’t make my point any less relevant. I’ll accede that there’s a time and place when amping up “overbearance” is necessary in leadership. I’ve been there, done that. But it’s certainly not a requirement to be that way, every day, in every way, with everyone, which is how Trump behaves. That’s just boorish.

But feel free to educate us on how wrong I am…I’ll leave you to it.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  skolifer
23 August 2024 1:29 pm

Well, I didn’t tout anything. I asked a question. Obviously you felt compelled to denigrate me as a response.

I’ll consider the source here.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 2:05 pm

Guessing he is feeling defensive.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 2:16 pm

Don’t be ashamed of your experience. I for one welcome hearing what people with actual experience have to say.
Damn, when I go to the doctors, I always look up his background.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  NoDakRube
23 August 2024 10:09 am

Dude is self destructing. The funny part to me, is he hasn’t really changed, it’s only self destruction because now he has a competent opponent. What’s that tell you about just how terrible Biden is?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 10:13 am

He no doubt has self destructive moments, but are you suggesting Harris is “competent” ?

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 10:23 am

By competent I guess I am saying sound of mind, as in her brain functions unlike Biden.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 10:30 am

Sound of mind. – OK. Think a political party going forward should just hire a professional actor to be their candidate.
Say someone like Jimmy Stewart in his prime – can read and act out everything. Doesn’t seem to really matter what they “think” or are capable of, just the projection.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 10:38 am

Agree with JRobert, Harris is not ‘competent’.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
23 August 2024 10:41 am

Which is likely the reason her history of staff turnover is so high. Incompetent and perhaps a bully.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 10:14 am

He got over 74 million votes… he is just being himself, and most folks understand that. His commentary isn’t what matters. His ability to get the job done for America is what matters.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 10:17 am

If only that were the case – “get the job done.”
Just don’t believe a great many people think about it that way.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 10:24 am

He’s always getting the job done in divorces and bankruptcies, dude never fails ever.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 10:28 am

More personal attacks and character assassination. Nothing to do with running a country. That’s the sum total of what you got. Just blather and personal attacks.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 10:47 am

Personal attacks and character assassination, hmmm, right out of the DT playbook.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
23 August 2024 11:06 am

Hmmm methinks you fail to see the light here. For decades this has been the sum total of the Dems platform. Conservatives have tried to take the high road, while getting trounced. Trump ain’t playing that shit anymore. He’s returning fire. I for one, want a fighter not a milquetoast politician as my President.

The personal attacks and character assassination that the Dems and the media have conducted on Trump far and away surpass anything he’s ever said.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 11:09 am

That can’t be true since the Media only reports one said as ‘an attack’, the other side is ‘reporting the facts’.

TDS in all it’s glory.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
23 August 2024 11:07 am

Right because ‘Hitler/Nazi’ and ‘Threat to Democracy’ are not personal attacks and character assassination?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 10:34 am

Are you up for a more pertinent question? I was going to say something about Kamala sleeping her way to the top, but that’s just tit for tat.

MT Viking
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 11:33 am

I was glad to hear a hint of policy last night. The next month (for me) is about separating the policies of the two parties.

A lot of “hope and change” for the future. Of course the Democratic Party has had control of the executive 3 of the last 4 presidential terms, control of the senate 12 of the last 18 years, and control of the house 8 of the last 18 years, so they have had the advantage of power to enact hope and change since 2006. The message is that this time they’ll get it right.

I enjoyed the parts about the Russia Ukraine war that VP Harris referred to, specifically the land invasion that started February 2022, when she referred to meeting with President Zelenskyy 5 days before the invasion to warn him (good job – I bet NLNVF has a better timeline but the state department was reporting on national media a good two weeks before the invasion that a false flag operation was in effect). She also organized 50 nations in a coalition against the Ukraine, which probably took some effort, although the US has contributed by far the most to the war since 2022.

I also heard that she and President Biden are working “day and night” on a peace process for Israel and Gaza. Those stories about Biden not being available before 10 am and after 4 pm, and the time he has spent on the beach in DE and CA, are apparently fictitious.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  MT Viking
23 August 2024 11:50 am

Yeah, the whole problem I have with the Ukraine event is the Biden administration allowed Putin to invade it in the first place. Then they went through their usual “condemnation, sanctions, and diplomacy” BS, and spent Billions of taxpayer dollars which hasn’t done anything to resolve this mess.

Trump told Putin up front that if he ever threatened the Ukraine, he would pay a price he could not afford. Putin loves the Dem’s because they literally won’t do anything to stop him.

Wrenage
23 August 2024 9:19 am

I am off to watch my nephew run cross country. Nice morning for a cross country meet.

Party on, kids!

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Wrenage
23 August 2024 9:25 am

Great… have fun, and good luck to your nephew!

JacksonVike
Reply to  Wrenage
23 August 2024 9:31 am

Fairmont?

DE Viking
23 August 2024 8:48 am

I believe this is the first time in my life where a Presidential candidate has NO official platform for their campaign. No formal policies have been published.

It truly is a campaign about nothing.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 8:54 am

Just approve the bill before you read it.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 9:04 am

Just elect Harris to see what she is…

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 9:09 am

Everyone knows what she is and unfortunately I’m not sure they care. She can play ‘rope a dope’ all the way to the WH.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 9:31 am

Yeah, I was being facetious of course. Obviously we know what she is. The fact that anyone with half a brain would vote for her to be the President of the United States, is disturbing.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 8:55 am

Yeah, well, other than acting like they haven’t been in charge of the country since the last election, and being the answer to the country’s many ills. That, and demonizing Trump.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 9:10 am

That, and demonizing Trump.

Trump does that all on his own, every time he opens his mouth…the Dems are just casting a light on it, and currently beating him at his own game. And before everyone loses their shit because I’m now one of a few folks around here that is willing to admit I don’t worship the ground Trump stalks on, I’ve voted Republican 7 out of the 9 elections I’ve been old enough to vote.

That said, I’ve always tried to be open minded enough to not just blindly check every box on the right side of the ballot. Am I “excited” about the prospect of potentially voting for Harris (I’m still undecided)? No. But the amount of one-sided vitriol from the extremes of both sides (it just so happens one of them is overrepresented in this room) is exhausting and ridiculous.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  skolifer
23 August 2024 9:20 am

That’s harsh but fairly accurate – especially about Trump running his mouth.
Now, I actually applaud Edge (told him so recently) about standing up for the other side here. And told Lifer so also when he was here.
And I don’t really think anyone here worships either of these candidates and also has a pretty good idea of what they are getting from each.
And, would guess most folks think they are ‘open minded’, but of course we know better.
Politics is a strange game.

NoDakRube
Reply to  skolifer
23 August 2024 9:45 am

Couldn’t agree more skolifer- most of Trumps damage is self-inflicted because he can’t shut his pie-hole. Did you hear his ramblings during his call in to Fox the other day? In the end they basically had to hang up on him because he wouldn’t shut up.

That being said he was a great President with great policies.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
23 August 2024 10:01 am

You’re use of “most” is interesting.
How much damage do you think he suffered by being compared to Hitler, a threat to democracy, will cancel all abortion rights, will gut social security?
If not much, then someone is wasting a heck of a lot of money for nothing.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 9:44 am

It truly is a campaign about nothing.

By and large over the years (dating back to the DN OT days), I’ve stayed out of the political foray on these sites. Although, for some reason, I’ve decided to contribute a few thoughts to the discussion today. As I said in my prior comment further down in this thread, I’ve voted Republican in presidential elections most of my life but I’m admittedly undecided on this one. That said, I think the Dems have done a brilliant of framing their campaign for Harris.

At a high-level, they’ve built their message around Joy and Freedom, which are hard platforms for Trump to defend (especially ‘joy’ because of all his many assets, projecting ‘joy’ isn’t one of them) and can also be effectively leveraged to support a variety of policies, from reproductive rights (I think the “re-branding” of abortion rights in this way was a stroke of genius by the Dems, whether you agree with their policies or not) to gun control to border/immigration, etc.

Yes, I agree this hasn’t yet led to full clarity in terms of their full “policy vision” but they’ve provided several specific examples throughout their convention of where this might lead. Again, I’m not saying I’m supporting the Dems or their policies, but I think for Republicans, they should be paying attention and scared by the current disparity in how the parties are presenting themselves and it would be a mistake to believe the Dems are running a “campaign about nothing”.

I’ve watched most of every day of each convention and, objectively, I believe the Dems have been far more successful in terms of the relatability, energy behind, and consistency of their message, including doing a better job of broaching policy than Trump and other republican leaders have to date. Unfortunately, as much as his campaign staff is trying to get Trump off the “personal” messaging and onto a “policy” message, he just doesn’t seem to be able to help himself. And unless he comes around, I think he’s going to destroy his chances of re-election.

DE Viking
Reply to  skolifer
23 August 2024 10:09 am

I vote based on policies.
I couldn’t care less how any campaign makes me feel or the vibe.

But I agree, it’s all about the PR and democrats always have a built in advantage. It’s been one month, and no media outlet has even challenged her on policies. Can she run out the clock over the next two months?
Definitely possible.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  skolifer
23 August 2024 10:51 am

Well said

No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 8:16 am

Although we’re playing Philly tomorrow, i’m more interested in looking ahead to the first regular season game. I’m thinking about where we are better than the Giants, and where the Giants have an advantage over us. Let’s look at the venue, head coaches, and offenses…

  1. Venue – advantage Giants
  2. Head Coach – advantage Vikings (some folks are down on Daboll)
  3. QB – push
  4. RB – push
  5. WR’s – advantage Vikings (if Addison is healthy and plays)
  6. TE’s – push (no Hock)
  7. O-line – advantage Vikings
No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Surly Viking
23 August 2024 8:29 am

I think Jones is stuck behind a really bad O-line, which affects his play and production. Like Darnold, he can make plays, but also can make mistakes under pressure. Thus I see the QB’s as a push. JMO.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 8:32 am

But Jones gets to play against our defense.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
23 August 2024 8:37 am

Also, Jones is in his 6th season with the team, so familiarity with the offensive scheme and players is much better. Might have to give a slight advantage to him, based on those factors.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 8:43 am

It’s never the OL to blame for a QBs play if you ask most around here lol.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 8:49 am

Yeah, it’s like the other 52 players on the roster have no effect on a game.

DE Viking
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
23 August 2024 8:49 am

Actually, it’s always somebody else’s fault if the QB sucks.

No OL
No defense
New OC
New Coach

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 8:53 am

“Always” ? Maybe sometimes the QB sucks just on his own.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  DE Viking
23 August 2024 8:57 am

OR as has been the case with Vikings the last several years, the QB is one of the most productive in the league despite all that. Also the most prolific QB in Vikings history.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Surly Viking
23 August 2024 8:30 am

For sure. If we can’t beat the Giants, the next six weeks are going to be really tough.

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
23 August 2024 8:33 am

While I agree the NYG is a game they better win, they won 3 games with the cast of characters last year, so I think they would still get 6 or 7 wins.

It likely will be an ugly season though.

Wrenage
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 9:17 am

The Vikings will still be in preseason mode against the Giants. They won’t be ready for the real thing yet. I don’t think JJ or Aaron Jones have even played yet. We are still starting a safety who is a member of AARP.

If we played the Giants later in the season, it could be a win, but they will be more ready than us in the first game.

DE Viking
23 August 2024 7:38 am

Last time I was at the MN state fair was probably 1980.
I’d be eating fried cheese curds, deep fried Oreo’s and a good hot dog.

Do they still have car racing there even though it’s bad for the climate?

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
23 August 2024 8:31 am

Not surprised.

No longer New Vikings Fan
23 August 2024 7:15 am

Darnold, Mullens, and Hall (in that order) are our QB’s. Mullens and Hall will be playing against the Eagles, with Corral in there I assume in the 4th quarter to close out preseason. I think at this point the roster is pretty much established, and all KOC will want to do is come out of the game without any injuries.

JacksonVike
23 August 2024 6:37 am

2 weeks to real football

JacksonVike
23 August 2024 6:26 am

JacksonVike
23 August 2024 6:25 am

– MarkSP18

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Surly Viking
23 August 2024 6:16 am

Gangnam Style – love it.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Surly Viking
23 August 2024 6:41 am

Good morning, SKOL!

FTP!

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