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Quick Thoughts on the Vikings
Those who know me know that I’m generally an optimist, so it probably won’t surprise you that I believe the Vikings will have a better year than most are predicting. I believe that KOC will help Darnold have the best year of his career (I know that isn’t saying a whole lot), and will be a significant upgrade over what the Vikings had at QB last year after Cousins went down. The team has improved their starting talent and should be better at most or all position groups, especially the running back position after having an anemic rushing attack last year. I’m excited to see Dallas Turner, adding him helped ease the pain of losing Danielle Hunter. New Vikings I’m most excited to watch are Dallas Turner & Aaron Jones, they’re both going to be beasts on this team.
I feel the Vikings also improved their depth significantly, we seemed to have far more talent at camp this year than we’ve had in quite some time, and they had to cut some very good players. We didn’t seem them picking through castoffs from other teams on cut-down day like they’ve had to do in the recent past.
They’re in a tough division, but I think the Vikings will be in the running at the end of the year. I predict somewhere around 12 wins for the Vikings this season. Call me crazy. Time will tell.
Fantasy Football League
Hey, this obviously was my fault for not getting this done sooner. I’ve gotten a couple emails from folks interested in putting together a last-minute fantasy league. I’m not sure how many players we need, but we probably don’t have enough…yet. There’s still time, and I’ll do what I can to help get it going. SoCalMinnFan suggested maybe having the platform auto-pick our teams for us since there isn’t much time for a draft, and that makes sense to me. We could still use trades & free-agent signings to customize our rosters. If we do it that way, I just need a few more pepole so we can have enough to fill out a league. I’m dumb when it comes to fantasy football, so if you have suggestions on how better to make it work, please let me know. If you are interested, shoot me an email at [email protected] or text me if you have my number.
The Latest News About the Vikings & Around the NFL
At Sports Illustrated, Justin Jefferson talks about what motivated him to commit to the Vikings long-term.
CBS Sports gives an update on JJ McCarthy’s recovery from surgery to tear a torn miniscus.
Media Selection
Here is an update on the Vikings’ injury report and a preview of Sunday’s season opener.
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So close.
Wow… tough way to lose… by a toenail.
But I thought the Chiefs were in decline….
Lol
Experts said = wild ass guess.
Game over. Ravens D can’t handle Chiefs offense.
Thereby proving that the Chiefs are a ‘team in decline’.
The Ravens are staying in it
KC clearly the better team, but not surprising. They have had the same OC and DC for years. The continuity is showing tonight. Mahomes looks very comfortable (as he should in his 8th year in Reid’s offense), and the defense looks polished in its sixth year under Spagnuola.
1st play of the 4th qtr Balt scores to make it 17-20.
See what happens when you don’t use #nojinx.
Fantasy League: I have notes from those interested, I’m going to figure out how to set it up even if it’s a bit late. I have a few more folks who will play, so we should be able to get a league big enough to be fun.
I tried watching the game with my wife in the house. I made it two minutes, then I had to come out to the garage & watch on mute. I have zero tolerance for Chris Collinsworth and the horse shit he spews. Man, that prick is annoying.
Anyone else have a FF league through NFL ? Can you log in? I’m getting error messages
Shit ton of penalties on the Ravens so far…
Chris Jones lines up offsides almost every play and the chiefs right tackle false starts on every passing play. No flags
Just back from the movies, will do a review tomorrow.
What did I miss?
Twinkies won, check.
7-7 KC and Baltimore 5m left in the 1st qtr, Swift dressed ‘full hottie’ according to my ‘news’ headline.
kinda crazy how they run Lamar.
Great new kickoff rule.
So exciting.
Not looking forward to dozens of shots of Taylor Swift all night…
New drinking game. Every time they show Taylor on the TV, take a swig. If they stay on her for more than 5 seconds, chug.
You’d go into a coma by halftime.
Rain for game? Good.
Looks like potential for thunderstorms…
Think Purple need 140-150 yards on ground. We can’t even keep people healthy. No ground and Sam gets pressure i think it’s a bad day.
I think so too, but the Giants have to be thinking the same way.
2 hrs till the first NFL game of the season…
Jon Gruden was talking about week one, and the factors he thinks affect outcomes.
Hunter Biden has officially pled guilty to all charges, skipping a damaging trial that could have aired all the dirty details related to the Biden families dealings. “Besides…” Hunter said, “the big guy is gonna pardon me”.
I made up that last part… grin.
Shocked! Not shocked.
Dims. We trade anthem kneeling woman/him WNBA player for a terrorist. Forgiveness.
RANT #2
this is the kind of left wing dishonesty that just makes me want to throw up….
You have to do a lot of imagining in order to try to say Trump is racist in this exchange. Its far more likely that he is talking about Pennsylvania leaders than about “black people”…but whatever…throw out your bullshit…I just hate it from both sides….
‘He’s Talking About Black People, Isn’t He?’: Trump Tells Pennsylvania Rally Crowd ‘You Have Smart Ones’ and Congressman Byron Donalds Is One of Them (msn.com)
Geez Implies he is one of the smart ones – there are so many in Congress right?
Biden is a true racist, and the media refuses to push that out.
In fact he has made more racist comments over the last 40 years than any other politician. Living there, and seeing what happened to others, I could never figure it out.
So if you’re Shane Bowen, the Giants new DC, how do you play the Vikings this Sunday? Bowen tends to depend on a ferocious front four and playing zone behind them. The Titans ranked No. 1 last season and No. 2 over the last three seasons in lowest touchdown percentage allowed inside the 20-yard line. In addition, they were No. 1 in lowest yards per carry (3.7) and No. 2 in run defense Expected Points Added during Bowen’s tenure.
Bowen doesn’t blitz a lot, but his front four is hell bent on getting to the QB.
Easy. Double JJ, turn Lawrence lose on our guards, and rush Tibaduau from the left forcing Sam to roll to his left.
If the Giants front four can get home easily, like they did in our playoff game, it’s gonna be a tough day for Sam.
Counter it by running the ball – KOC be patient, you are 17-0 when you win the turnover battle.
It’s hard to beat a defense if they’re getting consistent pressure with the front four, screen plays and misdirection can slow them down.
Hopefully KOC has a game plan where they can get the ball out quickly.
You’re right GF… thus playcalling is extremely important. Not just QB play.
Not going to make 420 today…
I am still having an edible at 4:20
I’m going with the Chiefs for the win tonight.
27-20
They always start slow though, September they play sloppy. I hoping for a Baltimore victory.
I picked the Chiefs also, but nothing would really surprise me.
For gambling purposes, I want lots of points, and do not care who wins.
The “oholic” ending gave me a chuckle fellow skoloholics.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/chiefsaholic-sentenced-to-17-5-years-in-prison
Am I understanding correctly that Friday night’s game is only on Peacock? Since I’m in Wisc, will there be a local option?
Hmmmm…. When I looked it up on Hulu Live, it seems to indicate that it will also be streaming on NFL Network.
Well, since you live in Wisconsin, (cough, puke, gag), the game might be carried on a local tv station for the shareholders.
Who watches football on a Friday, anyhow? Who is playing?
I should say, who watches professional football. Friday is for HS football.
NFL football 7 days per week is coming.
Probably also Flag Football by then.
64 teams, 12 divisions, most make the “playoffs”.
Gambling ads throughout.
Future looks bright.
You can always watch it for free, here. https://v2.sportsurge.net/list5-nfl
Its not illegal to watch streams haha, how many times do I have to explain this to people.
You should have a local option for in-market games. The rest of the world that is not WI or the shithole of Philadelphia will need to use peacock or play pirate.
I just had a vision, nay, a prophecy, that Green Bay is playing the Eagles on Friday.
I remember a few yrs back Goodell said the NFL would never play on Friday nights and compete with HS football. Allure of money I guess.
Maybe his excuse is because it is in Brazil.
Shows NBC in my world.
Thanks for all the kind words yesterday. I’m sorry I couldn’t get on to respond yesterday. One of the other accountants at work got fired last week, so it has been a bit busy picking up the slack.
Was he/she stealing from the company or where they sleeping with a coworker? Pretty much the only ways to get fired these days.
It was a job performance thing. She went on “probation” or whatever it is called, a couple of times and had no problems. As soon as she went of probation, the problems started again. The boss finally had enough.
You have a patriarchal out of touch boss who demands performance for gender ideology….SHAME! SHAME!
My boss is a woman. But she grew up Catholic, so maybe your statement still stands.
Marriage: AKA I travelled 800 miles to sit in another TJ Maxx parking lot.
It doesn’t matter how far away from home we go, I will be certain to visit a local Goodwill or other thrift store. It’s an addiction really.
VP, do you need me to send you a few dollars….I did not realize your household was so hard up…Bidenomics is challenging, we can get through this together.
I could be making a billions dollars per hour and my wife would still hit every thrift store known to man. Her family had to do that when they were growing up, but now for them it is just an addiction. They thrive on finding that “great deal”. Weirdos.
Yep…my wife grew up dirt poor…so in her mind we are still dirt poor…even though we aren’t
Amen brother. TJ Maxx is a must stop wherever we go. I actually plan a day around visiting it and related stores every year we vacation in Kissimmee.
Now don’t tell my wife, but I rather enjoy going to those stores in FL as there are always beautiful Latina women dressed and made up to the nines.
Oh yah you picked up on what I was serving
BTW I assume DE knows but I bet most of you don’t – Shay Mitchell is a Canadian actress, and her father is of Scottish and Irish descent while her mother is Filipina. She is one scorching hot, intelligent and resourceful young lady but the pregnant gifs are my favorite.
Im still kink shaming you for that, its weird. But yes, she’s a bomb shell.
Just didn’t want to be accused of cultural misappropriation – she is not Latina.
I guess I’m just some sort of racist.
She looks latina.
For the record, I find the female posted by MT to very attractive…
I do not find the female posted by JacksonVike to be attractive at all.
haha
Personally, Jessica Alba is just stunning to me.
Dark Angel was a great series. I mean, not really, but she is hot enough that I watched it.
Thats funny as shit.
The first week of the season is always a crapshoot. Teams come out and don’t quite know what to expect from each other. Players are trying to get back to playing fast, physical football, with real blocking and tackling. Conditioning comes into play, and also lots of penalties. If a team scores 24 points, they almost always win.
What did Cousins have to be confident about? His line? His running game? His defense? His kicker? A different OC and scheme every year? He had the weight of everything on his shoulders, and not much help. JMO.
All due respect JJ, you have no idea what it takes to be a QB.
Is this kind of “stuff” real?
Can recall a statement from a much broader publication where JJ said Kirk is our “dog.”
And then recall watching after a game, Kirk being interviewed, and JJ came up and hung chains on him and said something like he’s the man.
All of this makes me wonder.
The body language will be something to keep an eye on, Kirks was very noticeable when he would go into panic mode. Curious if Darnold is past his “Ghosts” phases from the Jets. I already know JJ has more self confidence and poise than Kirk.
KFEY, you should have gotten a bonus from underdog. I funded my gambling account and jumped in to two different pick-3s for tonight.
THAT WAS YOU?! lol i was so confused yesterday when I saw that money in my funds I was texting another buddy I had recommended. I have a 5 way parlay right now, only thing tonight is the gimmie pick from Underdog Kelcie just needs a yard and I get that pick. I need a Saquan TD tomorrow, then JJ to have a TD Sunday, Darnold to have a completion longer than 35 yards and a Daniel Jones Fumble.
I did a pick 3 tonight, and another with 2 tonight and 1 tomorrow.
Sunday I will probably bet more.
Well thanks for the funds! Much appreciated. I hope you win big! Ill update you Monday
1st Injury report has only 2 players on it.
Both WRs, both ankles and both ‘Limited Participation’.
Addison and Nailor.
https://thevikingage.com/posts/first-minnesota-vikings-injury-report-week-1-new-york-giants
We are going double tight ends the whole game.
Good, helps the running game and less chances for Int’s. 17-10 would be nice.
Got signed up for the Pickem. 16 confidence points to the Vikings and 15 to Pittsburgh.
Is 16 a lot?
Never played with Confidence Pts before.
You get 1-16 for the 16 games. If you get the pick right, you get that many points.
And you can only use each amount once so the game you are least confident in you put as 1 and so on and so forth.
I figure I would jinx any team I wanted to win if I put lots of points into their game.
So I would have to go ‘reverse psychology’ on it, or better yet stay far away from it all together.
I also picked them in survivor. Figured I’ll either lose out right away and be done with it or at least get the Vikings out of the way so I don’t fall into a trap with them later.
Eliminate the jinx game one, smart.
Thank you for the knowledge.
Its the most you can have, its based on how many games are played that week, and that means he’s putting max confidence on the Vikings winning. Which is a bold move lol. I have the Vikings 8 for the Vikings in mine and 3 for Pittsburg to send Kwerk home crying and sore.
First year I played I had no idea what I was doing, left the confidence points as they were (1-16 based on the order the games were listed) and won the pickem that week. Cmy willy was the admin for that group. Heh heh good times.
Thats what I like about pick ems, it truly is 95% luck and 5% skill (knowing match ups). I try to get casual football fans to do pick ems.
Buc-ees is great.
The Teacher and I are considering a trip to Northern Colorado where the nearest one is. Should be a fun weekend trip.
Heard a rumor that they might build one here. Doubt it is true but it would be grand if it happened.
Um… Wall Drug signs all over the world! and they’re not cocky, it’s just a cute funny thing that caught on.
Cash to burn.
Guess you’ve never driven the I95 corridor from Jacksonville to DC and seen the South of the Border Signs.
Correct.
They do have the, “you missed it” sign about 10 miles past to.
I drove that route in my sleep for 6 years.
Both my daughters, (can I say that anymore) went to South Carolina for college.
“Daughters” hope so. One of mine went to Elon and the other Virginia Tech.
Guess South of the Border is still there. Seemed like a neat place.
I don’t think we ever stopped. LOL….
Just lots of signs every 10 miles starting from Rocky Mt, NC I think.
Short Rant….
I hate this kind of shit…I am no Walz fan…but its my understanding these are second and third cousins…..I doubt I could pick out some of my 2nd and 3rd cousins in a police line up….just stupid stuff, and the Trump campaign repeats it.
Tim Walz’s family shares image supporting Trump for president (msn.com)
Thhhhaaaaaannnnnnk you for an actual thoughtful response to this type of non-sense.
Leftist propaganda you mean…
It is indeed nonsense….I hate it when the left does it, and they do plenty, and I hate it when the right does it.
When it gets clicks and gets people going, “Look this is something worth actually taking stock in and holds weight” and then the same people go, “Why are politics just a bunch of drivel and trash talking non-sense and no policy discussion!?!?!”
Well buddy, figure it out!
Maybe because politics is not about policies, it’s about ideology
Is that why Cackles is pretending to adopt all of Trumps Policies but promising to implement them ‘joyfully’.
Haha, what? What is ideological about people sharing that some of Walz family isn’t voting for him? If you’re ideology is that everyone in your family better vote for you or you’re not worth voting for then I guess you shouldn’t vote for anybody. Haha, like what?
You made the statement “no policy discussion.” I simply responded to that
Do you not believe today’s politics is about ideology?
Is the “saving democracy” statement one of policy?
How about abortion, is that policy?
Or maybe, ” a flawed nation from the beginning” – is that policy?
Haha, like what?
No, neither side has any ideology.
What about abortion? It’s just an emotional topic neither side actually gives a shit about but pretends to to keep us divided and controlled. Don’t get me wrong there might some individuals on each party that actually care but the party themselves don’t except to appease and win votes. BTW, there is NO, NONE, ZERO actual biblical backing to the anti-abortion stuff. But that’s just a fact.
In the situation I presented was already in reference to that story/image going around about the Nebraska Walz not voting for Walz and people share that as some kind of point of view worth using as proof Walz shouldn’t be voted on by anybody. It’s a stupid nothing, and if people support that stupid nothing then we will get a lot more of that. Instead of pointing the actual reasons Walz sucks.
Best not to pigeon hole everyone. Some do care about policy, but for others ideology. Go green is an ideology. Limiting emissions is policy.
Now you may not believe it – but, both sides have rather strong ideologies and they are much farther apart than they used to be.
And I would suggest to you, what may move the needle for me can be different for you, and then again for the next guy. The Woltz thing may be silly to you and me, but if it’s important to someone else so be it. i’m sure there’s plenty we do they would think silly.
Edge, I agree with your general reasoning here..It was my point…these distant relatives don’t count, what counts is Walz’s positions.
Regarding abortion you are just wrong…while it is emotional to me, it is largely a constitutional issue….there is nothing in the constitution giving someone the right to an abortion – since the constitution does not address it, the issue should go back to the states – where it currently and rightfully resides….
‘there is NO, NONE, ZERO actual biblical backing to the anti-abortion stuff.’
But he is right though, nowhere in the Bible does say ‘thou shall not kill’. Oh, wait.
Um… the bible also says there is a time for war.
Up until the 19th century the church took the actual biblical stance where there are actual examples where unborn children are treated more like property than life it’s why there were different punishments assigned to if someone did something to a woman that killed the unborn in her womb that was penalized at much much lower punishment and actually the father got to choose the punishment amount (but it’s a capped amount) where as killing a baby outside the womb is considered murder.
Nice that you were able to find an ‘interpretation’ that supports your ‘narrative’.
Ten Commandments:
Deuteronomy 25:11-12
But if it is ‘inconvenient’ enough you can just pretend that unborn babies are not ‘people’ so it is not ‘killing’ to rib them out of their moms’.
Aren’t there actual laws on the books in many states if you murder a pregnant women, you get charged with two murders.
Yup.
Mostly in the bible belt but they are certainly around.
God Bless them.
I actually had heard about it in DC and NY.
If so even better.
It might very well be down to individual DAs/Districts.
I believe it started in Colorado, where the Scott Peterson murder took place.
It is just political noise to me, most of it can be tuned out.
Less of it here than in Commifornia so less chance of getting triggered.
Agreed
His brother announced he’s not a Waltz fan, and warned against voting for him, so…. not 2nd and 3rd cousins exclusively. Also, where did you get the info these were not “close relatives”? Probably a liberal source, to denigrate the folks supporting Trump.
Fox news was the source for them not being close relatives.
And i know his brother doesn’t like his politics.
‘close relatives’
Close as in ‘closely related’? Doesn’t sound that close to me, not in touch with any of my 2nd or 3rd cousins.
Close as it ‘in contact and interact much’? Don’t know enough to understand the dynamic, or to really care all that much to be honest.
Depend upon whether you use the ‘West Virginia Rule’ or not.
Almost, was close to my Kentucky relatives early on.
But then they went Jehovah Witness and disapproved of everything we were/did.
They would not even go to my brothers funeral service because ‘prayers’.
“The family in the picture are the descendants of Francis Walz, who was brother to Tim Walz’s grandfather,” Edwards said. “They’re all Walzes and spouses.”
It’s mostly done because the media is a one way street with this stuff.
Mary Trump got plenty of press because she was against DJ.
Now the Kennedy’s are getting that attention because of RFK Jr.
Will networks and cable media do anything with the Walz family being against Tim Walz?
I hope you see the hypocrisy here.
I would say that 2nd or 3rd cousins disagreeing with Walz is not worth mentioning anywhere.
Now Mary Trump is a niece to Donald…again, not worth mentioning her viewpoints anywhere.
So yes, I would agree there is hypocrisy in the media, but we all know that.
So what about Walz’ brother saying he would not vote for Walz?
You know that one is tough for me…I have a brother that I love like a brother but I would never vote for him nor would he ever vote for me…we have starkly different world views…because my brother wouldn’t vote for me does that eliminate me from running for an elected position? I would say not.
I don’t need Waltz’s brother to tell me how terrible he is for our country.
Yeppers.
He destroys billions in surplus money in minny and still finds ways to increase it. Think his mindset would change in the WH?
Not like the dems haven’t been doing the same thing with Trump’s 4 niece by marriage.
What-about-ism or fighting fire with fire??
Now if someone would get that gd Liz Chaney to shut her big mouth!
Honestly I have not heard a peep out of her/it since they were booted out of office.
Not that I am looking for her quotes of course.
She just put out today she is voting For Harris – to save democracy.
That will convince ‘no one’ to jump on the Cackles bandwagon that is not already on it.
Just pointing out that a certain somebody doesn’t bitch when the other side does the same crap.
That is because he is ‘educating’ the ‘Stupid and brainwashed’.
wow Nodak, i didn’t realize how big of a Walz fan you were…
got a Walz fathead in your bedroom?
They also cannot spell. Apostrophe is in the wrong place.
Grammar is hard.
I see your point, this picture is of distant relatives, but the article also mentions, his own brother said on Facebook that he would not vote for him.
Also, in my local paper there is an article talking to the guy who took Walz’ place in Iraq. He is a local farmer, and he explains that Walz definitely knew he was going to be deployed before he decided to run for congress.
Absolutely, and I am all about criticizing walz for that action…I am no Walz fan by any stretch…its just don’t put up this nonsense.
The radio talking heads this morning said the Chiefs were a team in decline….
Thoughts?
Heard the same thing last year after The Loins beat them.
That take did not age well.
They developed a running game last year as they had limited receivers. They’ve now added WR’s and have the second ranked defense. And the best QB in football.
Hell of a decline I guess.
That’s kind of where I am at.
Reality
They’re probably right. Mahomes, Kelce and Reid are old and washed up.
I think they get to the Super Bowl again, unless injuries derail them.
Still the best QB in the game at the moment, @since JJ is out this year.@
They better enjoy our whole or parts. Next year begins the era of JJ.
They’ll be fine for a while. Mahomes automatically gives them a chance every year. They had a down year last year and still won the Bowl. If Kelce is gone soon, Reid will find someone and figure things out.
I think Irv Smith Jr. might be available….
Nope, QBs don’t win games. Their team is bad and there’s no way they can win without WRs.
Their defense, O-line, and skill position players are top-shelf Bow…
They still have the best QB in the league with one of the best play callers in the league at HC. If they can stay healthy they’ll be fine.
And I believe their DC has four SB trophies.
So what? The Vikings have been to 4 SBs too… I assume there’ at least one on the… wait? what? no? OK nevermind ;-p
What??? Believe Spags has been the DC for four SB WINNING teams.
Pretty good compliment to a great offensive minded HC – no?
If they are in decline, the rest of the league must be terrible. I expect the Chiefs in the Super Bowl indefinitely.
The radio heads saying this are complete idiots.
Mahomes has 10 years+ left.
They have won back to back super bowls and trying for a 3 peat.
Well, if they don’t think they are the favorites for the SB, I guess that would be a decline since the only way for them to go is down.
Last night’s fest beer from an actual German brewery. Pretty good. Not as roasty toasty caramel malt flavor. More bitter notes from the hops but very enjoyable.
I have enjoyed that beer in the past. .
I grabbed 11 different Fest Beers when at Total Wine last weekend… could have grabbed many more but at some point you have to stop haha.
Hey, I got the PowerCuffs yesterday, and did the first workout with them this morning. Completely kicked my ass.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Glad you liked them! I did my morning DDPY with the cuffs too. Dude, they work!
Doing the intermediate + schedule. I am just adding PowerCuff workouts every other day.
Damn. Definitely feeling it.
Gotcha, I’m to the point now where I do custom and have built a library of my favorites and I just cycle through those and the 50+ minute Jacked workouts on the weekend.
Take advantage of that favorite button. It’s like a star. If you do a workout you really like or really challenges you. Favorite it and start building that list of stuff that works for you.
what is this power cuffs?
Blood Flow Restriction cuffs. Better results with lower weights. That’s the marketing pitch anyways. So far, I am impressed
Oh it’s legit. The research behind it proves it. Originally designed for rehab purposes because they learned it helps bring more blood, more nutrients more healing. Then realized it really helps muscle density too.
Sounds like leftist propaganda to me.
Today’s Fargo question: Where is a good place to get something to eat where I can watch the game?
Probably Legends Sports Bar and Grill.
Buffalo Wild Wings
Applebee’s
They do have the all you can eat rib tips right now and they aren’t bad.
Lucky’s 13 Pub.
Did you eat at the classy place I told you about?
Most of the crew went to Twin Peaks (Very classy). I ate at the Spitfire. I had the Jamaican jerk chicken, it was fantastic.
Haha iv heard about Twin Peaks, never been. Also never been to Spitfire but im not in Fargo a lot either. Glad you found some good grub!
Got to the West Acres mall off I-29, grab a sammy at Chick-fil-a, and take the sack over to Best Buy and pull up a chair in front of the sets.
Darn it I forgot Chick was closed on Sundays. Arby’s or BWW I guess.
Love reading GF’s optimism about the team up top. Really, why think about it any other way ( I’m a Cub fan remember).
But I arrive at it differently than GF does. I’m not as worried about QB play as many. Heck we’ve had good QB play for years and I don’t feel that’s our problem. Now, we haven’t had a good defense since 19 and our running game is certainly unspectacular.
To me, key to winning 10 -12 games, run the ball well and play solid defense. I know we can pass the ball – that’s not our issue..
I am on GFs side..if we get decent QB play we will be O.K.
I agree NoDak. Set Sam up for success. Give him throws that he can make, take away all the processing stuff, and kinda let him revert back to being an athlete. That’s what Darnold is. He’s not a fast processor. He’s a big, strong, athlete, with a good arm. Just let him be that.
Without a good defense and solid running game, not sure Sam’s play alone will move the needle.
A strong run game is every QB’s dream, and best friend. Yes, we need a really good running game. Something to date KOC has yet to produce. Third year’s a charm? Hopefully. What you need Sam to do is not turn the ball over, or make stupid mistakes that retard the offensive game-plan. You just need him to run the offense efficiently.
You’re a Cousins fan right – did he run the offense well? What did that do for us without a running game and a good defense.
I simply maintain our problem is a hell of a lot more than QB play.
Cousins did his job in the passing game at a very high level, which kept us in games, and gave us a chance to win. Frankly, it was the only part of the team that was good every year. Our defense sucked, the running game sucked, the kicker sucked, the IOL sucked, so it’s almost miraculous that the Vikings were able to win a game.
Thus my point. A whole lot of other folks need to pick up their games – besides just Sam – and then we can be a solid team.
Yes, the dynamic is now flipped. Instead of the QB carrying the team, the team will need to carry the QB.
I expect a drop in QB play since Kirk is better than Sam. I also expect improved defense because of the new depth Kwesi was able to attain by not paying the former QB the going market value.
Run the ball. If Sam is less of a turnover machine, team will contend for a wildcard.
What defensive talent did KAM bring in though, that we wouldn’t have been able to if they had taken Cousins offer to play for $39M? Maybe I’m missing something, but we didn’t bring in any big ticket defenders during the off-season,
None because they are still taking a 30 million dollar cap hit for a mediocre player that isn’t on the team. The big change will be next year when they have all the cap space and a stud QB.
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He could have kept Hunter and drafted Turner too – better defense?
He could have kept Kirk (last year) and drafted JJ too – better offense?
We could have had both a present and a future.
I totally agree with this perspective JR. As much as Bow says McCarthy is a stud, he’s 3 years away from really being that. Cousins running the show for 3 years, while McCarthy develops (like Rodgers behind Favre) makes sense. Adding Dallas to Hunter? Wow. Yeah, we’ll see how this plays out, but as a Monday morning GM, I might have played this differently.
Greenard played about as good as Hunter last year and was cheaper. I think he has a little bit better off ball skills too so I’d call the Hunter/Greenard change about a wash. JJ will have the Vikings in the playoffs next year, and playing at home.
Don’t know about Hunter – he and Turner would have been great.
If the had signed Kirk last for for three at a cheap price (now), JJ only sits two at most. And since he’s hurt one, NBD.
Heard a recent claim by Rogers – said that time playing behind Favre allowed him to play against the first team defense in practice and that’s where he really learned to read defenses so well.
Broader point – we could have contended for the division this year, next year, and so on.
I get your point,Greenard is good, and he’s cheaper. Also, Dallas Turner isn’t even a starter as a first round pick, so is he as good as I thought he was? I would have liked to see Hunter and Turner playing opposite each other though, and I think they might have been a “wow” combination.
Please – ‘about as good’ is not ‘as good.’ Games are won and lost on the margin.
But it allows you to improve somewhere else, increasing the overall talent.
I know you hang your hat on this, but where did we invest more money and get better? RB, maybe. We haven’t improved significantly anywhere else.
It’s true that if you underpay on the QB position (go with a rookie on a rookie contract) you have more money to spend on other parts of the team, but the hole there is, the rookie is going to play like, a rookie. Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence, etc, and yes, McCarthy. That first year learning curve is hard on rookie QB’s.
They brought in a few corners and Jones as you note. Plus, the real gain in cap space doesn’t hit until 2025. Also, I didn’t say Kwesi successfully did it or will, but especially in 2025, the opportunity will be there. It also allowed the team to sign Jets and still keep a bunch of cap space. Darrisaw needs to get paid as well.
I agree, if we sign Cousins to the contract he wanted, we are not able to sign Jets to the contract he got. So we would be going into next season trying to keep Jets from becoming a free agent.
We would also be strapped for cash to sign free agents next season. As we sit now, this off season should be a lot of fun seeing how the FO uses all of that cap space.
Or they would have found a way to keep Jets and had to let one of the better tackles in the league walk as you were getting ready to turn the team over to a young guy.
What? If you had signed Cousins at the beginning of the 23 season for 37 for three years – last, this and next – you are strapped? You paid him last year and this really. That simply cannot be a back breaker. one season.
So, right now we are like $20 mil under the cap. If we had an additional $37 mil on the roster that would put us around $17 mil over the cap.
Aren’t you, according to Bow, taking a 30 mil cap hit for him this year now. If you’re paying Sam 10, that’s 40 for the QB right now.
Yes, and if we had signed Cousins it would be the original $30 plus the new contract. Unless they were to push it out another 5 years with additional void years.
The $25 mil we are paying Cousins this year was going to go against the cap no matter what.
I simply maintain signing him before last season (at that price), and keeping Hunter, but still drafting JJ and Turner, we would be contending for the division and not the seller. And could do so next year as well, and then have JJ ready to go.
I still say there is no way we would be able to sign Cousins, Darrisaw, Hunter and Jefferson.
Not for the kind of money they all got.
Hunter wanted out and I don’t think we could have made an offer he would be willing to accept.
True – but how much do we need.
Last year after fumbling away some games, we righted the ship. Played a very competitive game against Chiefs (bad n o call at end)., then beat Niners and Packers. How much better. or how much more do we need?
If we had Kirk (JJ learning) with Hunter and Turner (if he’s something) we can beat and or play with anyone in the league. And now we have a running back too.
And if we roll this year, we can the following and so on. There is no need to fall off to get better AND sustain that level.
Right, I expect an improved rushing attack. While QB play may take a hit hopefully the WR play can improve as well with Addison having his 2nd year and JJ keeps getting better, the younger #3,4,5 options should be developing… but this probably won’t really happen until Hock is back and Addison isn’t passed out at the airport anymore lol.
Gots to go into the season with Optimism. Let them prove otherwise.
Agreed. Theres a reason the Steelers have always been right around 8-9 wins every season despite having Big Bens corpse under center and garbage tier QBs after. Solid run game, great defense and coaching.
I am in Colorado Springs, so I reckon I will miss most of the games, including the Vikings. Might be able to listen to Vikings on the radio on the way home, though. Maybe catch the last quarter on TV.
That sucks, I have the same circumstance in Tampa, so I bought the Sunday Ticket package, and I also have NFL+ so I can watch the all 22 version of the game later. It’s money, but I can watch the Vikings, and my wife can watch the Ravens. I still watch the Redskins too, though I’m not sure why. Obviously we have the Bucs here, and we’ll probably go to the Ravens game this year.
Question – I have the NFL package to so I can watch all the games. But, my wife tells me.I can’t see Fridays’s game as it is on Peacock? WTH – why did I buy the NFL package.
Well I know Peacock which is a subsidiary of NBC, has steadily wormed its way into the Sports broadcasting realm, and they’re garnering the rights to broadcast things like some Golf tournaments, and other bigger sporting events. I thought Sunday Ticket would give me all the games. Maybe not though. That would piss me off.
That is part of the asterisk in the fine print. There are a few games that are streaming only, either on Amazon or Peacock, where you need that streaming service. Lawyers already arguing about that.
Money well spent if it is something you enjoy!
I might actually be able to watch some games on the flight home because they have some in-flight streaming now that I think about it. A football game would be a great way to kill time.
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