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The trade deadline has come and gone, and the Vikings didn’t make any more deals. As I’ve mentioned half a billion times this year & last year, I wanted the team to upgrade either the center or right guard positions. They’re both abysmal at pass blocking, toward the bottom end of their position ranking. Also, we pass the ball 60-65% of the time, so they can’t afford to have the RG & C escorting defenders into Darnold’s lap at least once a drive. I held out a sliver of hope that Ingram would finally “get it”, but I knew it wasn’t happening. Bradbury and Ingram might block or impede more of Sam Darnold’s throws than the opposing defenses do. It’s not fun to watch. Oh well, we have who we have. Also, we have Risner coming back any day now, so maybe they can shuffle around a bit & come up with a better option.
Vikings/NFL News and Updates:
The Vikings placed Reichard and DePaola on injured reserve, according to Vikings.com. Also, how Cam Robinson’s crash course on the Vikings offense and code words helped him have a successful debut.
MSN reported that the Vikings and Cashman are frustrated that his turf toe injury has caused him to miss the number of games he’s missed.
CBS Sports looks at the trade deadline aftermath and list the teams who did well and who should have done more. I sure wish the Vikings would’ve found a way to bolster the interior O-line.
Our old pal Norv Turner is putting in another stint with the Raiders, this time in an advisory role, details from NFL.com.
Media Selection:
This video is really good, it’s probably the main reason I began to change my tune about legalizing pot. If the Republicans really want to sweep the country, they should embrace legalization. We supposedly embrace freedom, so let’s show it.
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Everyone was a Full Participant today but Pace and Cashman who were Limited.
G. Murphy who is just cleared to practice did not participate.
https://www.vikings.com/team/injury-report/
According to what Walz was trying to push through in Minnesota, Trump should take Minnesota. Walz was trying to push for Minnesota’s electoral votes to go to whomever won the popular vote. There are several blue states that were pushing for this, as a feeble attempt to undermine the electoral college.
As I explained to my Liberal Sister in Law when she complained that the Electoral Collage was bad after Bush/Gore (2000) and claimed that Americans would change it before the next election.
If order to change It, they would have to change the Constitution. In order to do that requires
‘An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification’.
So smaller States would have vote in a large percentage to give up the advantage the Electoral Collage give them. Not happening any soon, if ever.
This was why these states were trying to make the change to their respective state election rules. The problem is that most if not all, of the states that were proposing the change to their state election rules were traditionally blue states, so it would normally not make a difference. This year, it would have given all of the electoral votes of those traditionally blue states to Trump.
I’m confused. Didn’t Harris win the popular vote in Minnesota and therefore gets all the state’s electoral votes? What’s different?
I believe it goes by the national popular vote.
If so, that is merely elimination of the electoral system.
That was the point, but if they would have been successful, Trump would have taken 11 more states.
Wouldn’t it be funny if they now turn on the popular vote. Maybe a jacked up electoral system with big blue states getting even more votes.
They seem desperate right now.
So ‘Baby Goat’ is’ unlikely to play vs us Sunday.
Do does that increase our decrease our chances?
I think it may be a wash to an advantage. The replacement more than likely won’t have the arm talent or athleticism as baby goat, but neither of them are going to be able to decipher our defensive looks.
Actually, I know nothing about the Jag’s backup QBs other than they went and signed Beathard.
Just the Vikings have a history of making backup QBs look like Hall Of Famers. Maybe that streak has been broken, it sure didn’t help Flacco last week.
Isn’t it Mac Jones?
Looks like.
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/mac-jones-jaguars-starter-former-patriots-quarterback-nfl-week-10/
But at least the starter has familiarity with the line, the WRs etc… it’s definitely a disadvantage to lose your starting QB. Just ask Vikings fans.
Ha!
I know JacksonVike mentioned Cashman briefly but here is the full injury report for Wed.
Seriously, AZ’s ballot counting is quite the embarrassment at this point. Unreal that it’s taking this long.
Imagine if by some alignment of the electoral votes the election hinged on Arizona.
There would end up being more ballots than registered voters before it was over.
Shirley that would never happen…
I’ll point out that with this graphic, sure the Democratic candidate got 15 million more votes in 2020…but the Republican candidate got 11 million more votes. A difference of 4 million does seem impressive…however in 2024 when presumptively every card carrying Republican showed up to vote the tally for the R candidate dropped by 3 million votes. Why did 3 million less people vote Republican? 4 million more votes for Harris and she would be more or less tied with the popular vote.
There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Everyone likes to draw straight lines and make silly inferences.
“Figures don’t lie, but liars figure”
Not necessarily true. Figures can be manipulated to lie. We used to joke in our nerdy accountant style about a thing we called Add a Column Accounting. If it doesn’t add up, add a column.
I believe that your example falls into the ‘Liars Figure’ category.
But then I am not a professional.
So what is the explanation for 2020? And while 3 mil is something, 81 to 67 is particularly noteworthy and seems beyond the pale.
I’m pointing out that 74 to 63 while less impressive is still quite a jump. Clearly there was a factor that led to more votes cast for each candidate in 2020. I support the assertion that the COVID related changes in voter registration and ease of mail in voting created a larger amount of votes cast than has happened before or since. It is what it is.
I personally do not believe the 2020 election was “stolen”. I personally do not believe that January 6th was an insurrection. I think many of us have these dualities.
Casting off on a tangent I was reading about how many voters who waited until Tuesday to register stood in line for up to 9 hours in Billings and Bozeman. For those voters who waited until Tuesday to register, I nominate you nincompoop of the week.
I filled out my ballot from the comfort of my own home three weeks before, and dropped same off at the courthouse the next day.
‘Clearly there was a factor that led to more votes cast for each candidate in 2020.’
So both sides cheated in 2020 but the Dems did it better?
Yup.
People were bored and stuck at home so they voted…The fact that there were way many more rebuplican votes in 2020 would argue against the cheating theory. But I still think there was some cheating.
I support your thought that due to Covid states loosened up methods to facilitate non in person voting. This yielded a sharp increase in cast votes.
But, these easier methods still in place produced less cast votes this year. And. the Democrats, the champions of mail in voting, really took a hit.
Something just doesn’t quite add up.
I agree with some of your assertions, however, I cast some blame on the local governments. They should be adequately prepared for these elections and there should be absolutely no reason that someone should have to stand in line for 9 hours to vote.
The reason for the long wait stated was that each county is allowed only one site for unregistered voters to register to vote on election day. I have to say I support that decision, do you really want to have to staff 45 different places to register people to vote on the day of the election?
Once they were registered, they were able to vote within minutes.
I stand by my nincompoop of the week admonishment. I think I saw recommendations that voters should register in advance in just a hair under 10,000 different places (newspaper, TV, courthouse, bar, etc) over the last six months.
I also agree with you that people are stupid. And unless you just moved or just turned 18, why aren’t you already registered?
One big difference in the 2 elections is the massive vote dumps, for one side, that took place in the middle of the night in key swing states, in 2020.
Calif is worse. Large parts have only 55% results so far. Must be walking their results in.
Trump submits his resignation letter to McDonalds.
🤣😂😆🔥🔥🔥
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCC29t4y4Fz/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=43d52e85-32c0-4e6f-8dba-20731fcbeff1&ig_mid=E991E70F-7D0D-40BF-B877-F74755E288BE
I don’t know if this is real or not, but it is awesome!
That’s good stuff.
HA!
Have any of the elite snobs that said they would leave the country if Trump won, left yet?
Didn’t we hear the same stuff in 2016. Unfortunately none left, expect the same now.
I’m sure they are waiting until the inauguration. A lot can happen in the next 2 months.
The same amount that left in 2016 and 2020…
Although unlike 2020 it’s looks so far as if the losing side isn’t nearly as violent and overthrowy as the side the lost last time… hmmm… I swear around here it was stated that they were sure the losing side would be violent as hell. Well, I am sure since those folks around here were wrong about there very divisive stance that they will adjust their stance and not just dig their heels in and baulk at this comment… I am sure, totally sure that is what will happen.
I’m surprised there were no “mostly peaceful” protests, yet. Guess the marching orders for BLM and Antifa have been revoked seeing that Trump annihilated Harris.
I figure that the results were in after midnight and made ‘peaceful riots’ problematic.
Are they going to wait until Jan 20th? Maybe the crowds will but the TDS will continue in the Media and the Woke Elite.
Reading about mobs gathering in Chicago, NYC and other places… mostly peacefully, of course.
Remember when the Republicans rioted when Biden was elected?
Remember?
Edge says both sides are terrible and we’re brainwashed.
As I recall, could be wrong, the real fireworks didn’t start until January in 2020. Perhaps it might be prudent to hold our powder until next year’s January events have passed.
Have heard several liberal groups have already filled for demonstration events permits on the eclipse for January. Clearly, after these events go peacefully we will all eat our crow gracefully.
Yeah but we all know, no one around here will ever concede they were wrong about some negative thought they had about the left. People around here absolutely know every Dem, every single last one of them all want to destroy America. That totally sounds like people not brain washed huh? Fuck I hate identity politics and how many around here buy into it full tilt.
I assure you if all goes peacefully I will fully admit being wrong as I thought there would be trouble.
We all error, not recognizing it is even a bigger error.
Now, you might give some thought as to casting us all as to having but one mind.
You right. When I am basically arguing with damn near everybody and there are for sure a few who are totally, and 100% on the bus of the right in infallible and every person on the left is literally Satan or worse yet, a Dem (lol), then it feels like it’s the whole group but it’s not the case.
I am always more than willing to admit when I am wrong. It doesn’t happen very often, so I am not well versed at it.
Maybe it isn’t identity politics, maybe it is the majority of the right politicians values align with many on this site.
Which is fine, but to say the entire left as a collective is trying to destroy America is literally dividing us and contributing to the destruction of America. I hate it, so much. I am guilty of saying crap like that too. But damn, it’s dumb. It stops us from actually addressing what we are trying to address. Talk about an actual topic, saying the left is bad, the left is bad is literally as dumb as the left just going, orange man bad, orange man bad. Instead of talking about anything of substance.
Also my favorite quote like your first part is, “I don’t have all the answers… but that’s only because I haven’t been asked all the questions.” lolz Colbert was funny at one point in time.
Just a thought from an older guy. Liberals and Conservatives have been around for some time and “have” worked together and accomplished much.
Now, you can be a liberal and not be a woke nut, and you can be a conservative and not be a neoNazi.
Unfortunately, the extremists while small have the biggest voices. And for some reason they are listened too – not sure why.
At the end of the day. good policy regardless of the course will always work.
Agreed. 100% agreed. I said I was a Dem in high school because my football buddies were mostly all Republicans that were racist rednecks. Not all but the ones I chose to hang with haha. I thought that was all republicans and I didn’t want to be that. Plus I was a rocker, skater guy who hated the religious conservative stuff.
I learned in fact not all Republicans are like you said some kind of neoNazi.
I will make sure to either state every name on the side I am complaining about, or put a disclaimer stating I understand it is not literally everyone on the left or right, but a good majority.
Or you could actually say something of substance than the conservative equivalent of Orange Man bad.
Sorry about no thread. Not trying to do that on my phone and when I’m in the office our IT blocks this site for some reason
Is the one posting today’s thread from AZ by chance?
HELLO hello hello, ANYONE OUT THERE there there?
Blake Cashman was back in practice, albeit he was limited..
Over 400 comments. I’m sure everyone was polite and kind.
It was mostly peaceful. We did learn that we are all members of an echo chamber, with the exception of the 1 free thinker.
Free thinking is over rated.
Free beer, on the other hand, is not.
Echo chambers are under rated.
It’s bad man, it’s real bad. The majority around here think the entire left is trying to destroy America… this is what divides us. It’s what keeps us under the thumb of the rulers of this country. Instead of realizing we have differences of opinions on some things and that there are nuts on both sides and I would agree it is worse on the left than the right, right now. But that changes, that swings back and forth but as long as both sides can admit that, then both sides can work together to ignore or ostracize the nut jobs.
I guess it depends on everyone’s idea of destroying America.
Is the left pushing for a less moral America, yes. Is the left pushing for more government control, yes. Is the left wanting to change or eliminate rights given to us by the Constitution of the USA, yes.
And when I say the left, I mean the majority, not every single person that registers as a democrat.
Say something else. Besides the large over arching things that are OPINIONS and if they aren’t opinions prove it. Prove that the entire left is trying to make America less moral etc… otherwise you just sound exactly as dumb as “Orange Man Bad” you are just saying indoctrinated chants with no substance. I hate it when the left does it but I also hate it when the right does it.
That is why I added this.
It’s a cop out. It’s not the majority. It’s just the loudest ones. And what you are accusing them of, again, are just over arching broad spectrum sayings with no substance.
More often than not the Democrat politicians vote together, there may be 1 or 2 that may go against the party on almost every vote. I have seen more Republican politicians go against the party when voting.
So to say it is only the loudest, is incorrect, if they all vote the same.
I forgot that Delaware made history last night.
First tranny ever elected to congress.
“Sarah McBride”
Yikes
Ignorant – is that a man acting like a women?
Yep.
Went for the “gender affirming care surgery.”
Is she single? (asking for a friend)
Suprised you are interested.
It will never be preggers.
Ecxellent point.
That’s so hateful.
They are called birthing persons.
MSNBC commentator Joy Reid has gone viral for her meltdown following the outcome of the 2024 election, blaming “White women voters” for not showing up to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris.
The liberal panel was discussing the Democrat’s crushing defeat in North Carolina, a critical swing state which former President Donald Trump won by nearly two million votes.
Her case of TDS is almost as bad as Hillary’s.
actually, if she was properly informed, she would know that black voters actually turned out for Trump. in fact Black, Hispanic, and Asian voters went for trump at a record pace.
I guess they don’t know how racist trump is…….
The worst videos out there are the ones claiming that Latino men are misogynists and racist.
They haven’t learned a thing. Calling voters garbage and every other name, and now Latino and African American men misogynists is probably not a wise idea to gain their votes in the future.
And now that the Rs have the presidency and the senate, time for Clarence Thomas to retire so they get a younger judge in there who will continue to interpret and apply the constitution and not make laws (cue EDGE)…..
Alito should probably retire as well.
Lets add Sotomayor to the mix.
I was concerned about Harris winning, and appointing more liberal judges to legislate from the bench, and water down the Constitution. I felt this was a huge threat to our rights and freedoms.
WTH is wrong with Arizona?
They are still only reporting 63% of precincts almost 24 hours after the election.
Talk about shady.
foxnews made a good point last night.
EVERY SINGLE STATE should take notes on how Florida does it (gets all their votes counted FAST and effectively) and do it that way. There is ZERO reason why every state does it different and some take multiple days and some (Florida) take about an hour
Some states seem to enjoy the drama, the notoriety of being last/late with their vote counts.
Nevada I can kind of understand, they are out west so they start late, plus they won’t start counting until the last person has voted, and everyone who is in line when the polls close are allowed to vote. It was two and half hours after the polls closed before they started counting.
i notice minnesota stopped counting at one point…
i wonder if that was directed from walz himself….
would LOVE someone to come out and admit that
Here is your reason:
well. every state should follow florida, 3rd world countries do a better job of tallying votes than we do.
i remember the punch card ballots got counted faster than these stupid scanned ones.
After the disgrace of the 2000 election, Florida went full throttle about having a solid process. And it works very well.
NO illegals are voting either.
There is a Federal Election Commission is there to monitor campaign financial issues, but that’s about it.
Five emailed me and says “hello and congrats on the USA being saved. Tell Lifer i assume he is moving to Russia now?”
classic Five
Man, time flies. I remember the DN open thread the day after the 2016 election, the locals were relatively quiet and Five and I were exchanging virtual high fives.
Ask him about Lawrence, the young GOAT… laughing.
hahaha man he was SOLD on Lawrence wasn’t he
Yep… Five, the all-knowing.
Tell Five hello for me and that I miss him here.
The left is going to fight Trump with everything they have, just like the last time he was elected. They can’t stand America telling them they are wrong for the country.
Shortly after Vice President Kamala Harris called President-elect Donald Trump to concede the 2024 race for the White House Wednesday afternoon, failed campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon sent an email to staffers about next steps.
“Just a few moments ago, the Vice President connected with President Trump to concede the race. In the call, she told him that she would work with President Biden to ensure a peaceful transfer of power,” the email states. “She also made clear that she hopes he will be a President for all Americans.”
“I don’t have words to express the gratitude I have for everyone getting this email. You left everything on the field. You built a first-rate, historic Presidential campaign in basically 90 days. You navigated things that no one has ever had to navigate, and likely no one will ever have to again,” she continued. “You stared down unprecedented headwinds and obstacles that were largely out of our control.”
After thanking staffers for their work on the short campaign, a result of forcing President Joe Biden out of the race in July, the email states it’s time to “protect America from the impacts of a Trump Presidency.”
“I’ll leave you with this: losing is unfathomably painful. It is hard. This will take a long time to process. But the work of protecting America from the impacts of a Trump Presidency starts now. I know the Vice President isn’t finished in this fight, and I know the very people on this email are also going to be leaders in this collective mission. View this as the beginning, not the end. It will be hard work. But as the boss says: hard work is good work. And I look forward to standing beside you,” O’Malley Dillon vowed, admitting the country moved to the right towards Trump and away from Harris’ candidacy.
Yeah, that is why it is important that we hold The House, even by a small majority.
Otherwise impeachment, Shifty level lying is back on the agenda.
Right, and it would be nice to have a leader in Senate and House who aren’t RINO’s. We already have to deal with nonsense from the Democrats.
I was about to write something about Kamala’s political future.
How well one handles defeat is a big deal.
People appreciate graciousness and do not like “bad losers’.
Heard also during the call to Trump she said we will have a peaceful transfer UNLIKE 2020. And now you read this kind of crap.
Dems lost on the issues and saying Trump was Hitler was a failure.
They would be wise to take the high road, but evidently won’t and I hope the voters again hold them accountable for such behavior.
What has she ever said/done that leads you to believe that she, or anyone on the left, will be ‘gracious’?
Of course she will read whatever is put in front of her.
Because, just my opinion from talking to people, folks are sick and I mean really sick of this low level cheap shooting.
Folks are going to see the democracy is not in danger, Trump is not Hitler. and if the Dems keep pushing that crap they are going to pay with the public.
And if Harris is gracious right now, she will rise in the public’s eye. If not, and acts like a bad loser, she will fall even further.
The choice is hers.
Well said.
My comment this morning about Dems starting the impeachment process was only partly tongue-in-cheek.
They have completely ignored the fact that America was founded on democratic rule, that you vote for a leader and the one with the most votes wins, gets 4 years to run the country. If your candidate lost, you suck it up and try again in 4 years.
Nope. This is the era of instant gratification. Change the rules, re-write history, pretend shit never happened.
Correct.
They aren’t going to go away quietly.
Could even be a set-up for their next dark move.
Not sure why she wrote this diatribe, since this was the last election and democracy officially ended last night.
Yep, when Trump moves on after four years, Vance will be anointed King, and he will rule with an iron fist for the next 30 years. Then his son will ascend the throne.
The Queen approves.
Pic up top – if Marty Feldman and a Llama mated.
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A Kirk receiver is #5? No way! I thought all he did was checkdowns?
Well, many people made the claim that the Vikings would suck without Kirk, and they don’t suck.
No one made that claim DE.
Several people made that claim.
I don’t recall anyone making that claim. Folks reasonably wondered if Darnold would be able to cut it, since to date he had been a total failure in the NFL. That’s different than predicting he would fail. I personally highlighted his athletic ability. A LOT.
If Cousins was here, JJ might have twice as many, or half as many.
I may win the lottery tomorrow, but it’s a glorious day and I’m good with that.
Baby Goat might be out this week….
Beathard, going to tear us up.
That would be so Vikings.
what’s he hurt with?
Throws too many INT’s syndrome
Injured non-throwing shoulder.
I mean, even if you are 1000% sure he will play Sunday, as a coach you say he might not publicly.
Does anyone else think, that Harris is relieved that she lost the election. I think she knew she would be in over her head, dealing with foreign adversaries.
Absolutely NOT!!!
To a degree, yes.
But overall, I think she wanted power.
She wouldn’t have done the work and would have blamed anything bad on someone else.
I think she is secretly relieved although she would not admit it, probably even to herself.
She’s already planning her 2028 run.
She has no chance in my opinion.
Hopefully the plan includes some reading comprehension and public speaking classes.
Vikings announce roster moves.
How dare you post Vikings related material here!!!
This could be a nice boost to our pass rush.
“…signed LS Jake McQuaid to practice squad”
So….we’re not punting or kicking PATs/FGs Sunday??????
Astute observation.
I assume they do gameday roster manipulation.
They’re likely waiting to see who gets injured in practice this week and do the swap that way.
BURN !!
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Was thinking if we lived in thoughtful and healing times.
I mentioned last week I thought one of the first things Trump should do if he won was to pardon Hunter Biden.
Now today, another “healing” gesture that should be done, is for all prosectors to drop all cases against Trump. The people have spoken.
Let’s ALL move forward.
DOJ has already announced this.
Proving and admitting that it was all an attempt to use the Government to silence the opposition.
Sad day in America.
Any ides what the Judge in NY is doing?
Nope.
Since the whole point of the Trial was political, and Trump won, my guess is he does nothing and lets the appeal run it’s course.
Part of me still thinks they will do something to stop Trump from taking the oath, but maybe Trump won handily enough to know it’s a lost cause to try anything.
Wasn’t he convicted in NY and the Judge put off sentencing until after the election.
Yes.
Trump has a sentencing hearing next week I believe.
He should pardon himself, and that will drive the Dem’s crazy.
I have heard that Bill Barr has called from the DOJ to drop the prosecution’s but not that they have done so.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-prosecutors-should-do-right-thing-dismiss-trump-cases-respect-peoples-decision
From NBC:
So they admit it was purely political, like we all knew? What a farce.
New York AG says they will continue to “fight back”… She is committed to prosecuting Trump, as some sanctimonious leftist stand against injustice. What a load of crap.
Then maybe the new US Congress should do a serious review and audit of all appropriations going to the stat of New York.
So they are ‘considering it’.
Not exactly ‘dropped’ the prosecutions.
Jack Smith will likely fight to keep his case(s) alive as long as possible.
And they have that ‘boy toy’ hiring skank in Georgia, although they have her pretty wrapped up at the moment.
Now that Trump will become president again, DOJ officials see no room to pursue either criminal case against him — and no point in continuing to litigate them in the weeks before he takes office, the people said
People talking about the DOJ is not the same thing as the DOJ making an announcement.
I hope it happens, won’t be surprised if it doesn’t.
My favorite meme going around on Facebook – The air just smells a little more affordable today.
One of my favorites:
Minnesota was a lot closer than I was expecting. 130,000ish vote difference.
Trump wins.
Funny what happens when an adult enters the room.
‘Funny what happens when an adult enters the room.’
Good analogy.
The bad news.
Walz is coming back to Minny.
That’s exactly what I just told a co-worker.
the good news, i think walz’s political career, at least as governor, should be toast
I hope so.
i can’t see him getting backed by the dems anymore…
we shall see.
Yeah, if this race was closer I would say he would have a greater chance of re-election. But this is a beat down, and he did nothing to help garner any votes.
But than again, I didn’t think he stood a chance after covid and he got re-elected.
yes true, minnesotan’s are just realllllllly dumb
It might be that passive aggressive “Minnesota Nice” thing.
yes true, Metro voters
minnesotan’sare just realllllllly dumb – FIFYgood point.
i hate metrosexuals
Supposedly. Probably a ton of cheating there, too.
From my perspective, he is the textbook Minnesotan.
A lying sack of crap that makes constant poor decisions and is owned by China and his party? I don’t know about that…
Thanks for taking one for the team !!
Truly amazing isn’t it. America is really back in the inter national arena and the bad guys know it.
I hope like hell he puts the hammer on Iran.
So, much to my dismay many pro-abortion measures past last night in individual states. However those same states went for Trump. This is actually the way our system should work. Abortion is a state issue, not a national one. Its great that people understood that.
Correct.
For sure.
‘Its great that people understood that.’
You haven’t seen the Woke Meltdown over the results in Florida.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fascist-liberal-critics-melt-down-after-florida-voters-reject-abortion-rights-amendment
My wife, a conservative but pro choice, voted against the amendment because of the number of weeks.
As did DT, a logical distinction.
Usually all in the name of religion. I seriously think if a church gets into politics you lose your tax exempt status. Have whatever stance you want. I am in the middle with abortion and struggle a bit with it. But any time it comes up, I’m posting this video. The bible is clear, life and personhood doesn’t start at conception (doesn’t mean you have to agree with the bible, Paul was pro slavery). Have I ruffled enough feathers yet?
Why this? The Bible was written how many years ago? Roe was first decided how many years ago?
What’s science, today, say about the development of a fetus. When does it have enough “human” characteristics ?
OK, I can get behind what you are saying but then it also has to apply to other things. So you also don’t think being gay is a sin right? Because the Bible was written how many years ago? Like, I don’t know your stance on stuff but too often so many religious folks will write things off that are negative of their religion by saying it was written so long ago so you can ignore that part because society was different. And then you go, didn’t you just use very similar passages from the same book to judge others?
Being gay has never been a sin. Having sex for reasons other than procreation is.
Nope. Life begins with conception. Here’s a good overview:
Nope. Paul encouraged Christians to honor God no matter their station/lot/situation in life. Slavery (and indentured slavery) was a common aspect of society in Paul’s day. People who were slaves who also became Christian were encouraged to honor God in their situation.
(not sure why the link is being put in to a blockquote)
Did ya watch the video? I’ve read the bible… did ya watch the video or just reply to my comment?
i LOVE when someone’s argument about the Bible not being true or relevant is saying because it’s “pro slavery”
The point is Edge, it is not a federal issue, you really have to stretch the constitution to make it one. Leave it to the states (As much as I don’t like that) and that is working….States where the majority of the people are in favor of killing the pre-born can do so.
And more abortions have happened since SCOTUS sent it back to the states. You would think people who want to kill babies would be happy that they are killing more babies.
Not everything should be left up to the state. When it comes to health care, all should have access to it. I am not even totally pro choice. I struggle with it because but came to the conclusion you are dead when your brain stops not your heart. Brain starts around 6 weeks, put a 6 week cut off for abortions and move on. And I was talked into that 8-10 week would be a better middle ground so we can move on from this topic that hamstrings every damn election!
Everyone does have access to it. the debate is on , who should pay for it. I’ve worked hard my entire life to keep a job that provides me with health care insurance. If you do not want to work for a place that offers health care insurance, you should be expected to pay for it out of your own pocket.
It’s cheaper to just give folks basic health care and better for the country and cheaper than always waiting for shit to become an emergency. You do understand that if someone is having a medical emergency they still get operated on and then eventually that cost lands on the tax payer’s lap. For the same reason insurance companies know that just taking care of someone to a certain extent is cheaper.
I use to be full on Libertarian, and from a pragmatic standpoint I still am so I understand what you are saying and agree with it in philosophy. But it just doesn’t hold up in execution.
You keep posting this dudes take here as if what he says is the final word.
It’s almost like a religion for you.
Naw, just found someone finally that studies it from a purely academic nature who isn’t out to either push religion and looking to verify bias, he is also not a Hitchens or someone like that going at it from the perspective of trying to tear religion down. It’s tough to find someone giving information on religion without an agenda.
Trump projected to win Michigan,
The ‘Blue Wall’ has become all Red.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-projects-former-president-trump-win-michigan
He’s going to sweep ALL of the swing states.
312 EV
He is up in the 3 remaining states that have not been called.
Arizona is the only one that is close at this point.
He’s up 5 points in both NV and AZ.
AK is automatic when they wake up and finish counting.
You are right.
It was about 1.5% last time I checked Arizona.
Last I had heard Kodiak was moving to Arizona, maybe he is more of an influencer than we gave him credit for.
Hats off to you. Didn’t you predict these results and Senate a day or so ago. Pretty good estimating!
Yup, DE called it.
Thank you.
Great job 🙂
Yep.
Thank you for remembering.
Heck, you did better than the experts. An opportunity to make some cash in spare time.
These Babylon Bee headlines are pure gold…
“Trump Wins 3rd Election In A Row”
“Democrats Call For Abolishing Popular Vote”
“They Tried To Warn Us: Trump Gives Victory Speech Sporting New Mustache”
Those are awesome.
Hahahah!
To all of my fellow SKOLOHOLICS…
I WAS WRONG about the election.
And I was never so happy to be wrong about something in my life.
Me too.
Rec for honesty.
I didn’t mind, you were listening to your fears.
We had to ‘beat the cheat’ and with a Trump as RNC Chair that was their focus, a big part of the win IMHO
I agree. It appears more likely now that there was cheating last time around, I think we had systems in place to stop that crap.
Heck i thought you were kidding. Just giving Edge a little hope and keeping the rest of us. on our toes.
Not heard from Biden, did he know election was last night?
I believe, since he was not a candidate, he’s is not compelled to comment, even though he is the sitting President.
When does the President Elect start sitting in on daily briefings with the President?
The president isn’t sitting in on briefings….
Trump should start sitting in on security briefings though, even if its just him.
Doubt that they told him yet.
No point in upsetting the ‘Big Guy’ with bad news.
Still think Biden might resign to allow Kamala the DEI trophy of the first female black president.
Has Rapinoe and Goldberg left the country yet?
I would love Trump to just round them up and deport them, like they claimed would happen.
I would prefer some hard working immigrants vs some entitled libtard.
Same
Might have to move to the US after all…
I thought this was an interesting take:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/kevin-oleary-trump-saved-entrepreneurship-entire-sp-model
(watch the video)
Good stuff. But, I wouldn’t lose any sleep waiting for the Democrats to acknowledge that Trump’s win actually saved them.
All of the carping about public education sounds eerily similar to my views on government funded health insurance programs. My take on Medicare/Medicaid can be summed up as – oh the way we diagnose and treat illnesses has changed a lot since 1965, and for example diagnostic imaging is much more expensive? Well we will just give you a third of the money you need to break even doing an exam. Good luck.
That’s the funny thing: In my field, we haven’t gotten an increase in reimbursement since the 90’s! And in some cases, a cut in reimbursement from certain “insurances”. Name a single other thing that hasn’t gone up in price since 25 years ago. It’s ridiculous that we get reimbursed those rates. I think most would be blown away by how little we get paid per comprehensive eye exam (including refraction).
Amen
I bet if you look the price went up when the government got involved, just like college.
Cackles speaking 4 Eastern. Riveting.
“I grew up in a middle-class family…..”
“I have now been unburdened by what has been….”
I would lay odds she brings up the middle-class family bit to try and ease the sting, that she lost to a rich privileged white man. We all know Westmount, Quebec is practically a ghetto LOL.
Right, and she worked at MCDonald’s too.
They are all rich and privileged.
I think she would be more butt over losing to “literally Hitler”.
“What this was….was an election….where people choose….and they vote….and cast their ballots….for particular people. That’s called a vote. These votes were counted…..so they went “One, two, three”…..(Ha ha ha ha)….ok? Right? And America spoke. That’s what happened last night. America spoke. It was an election.”
That’s very very good.
Now all we need to happen is those people who didn’t vote for DT sit back and let him get to work and see what he does, rather than trying to cancel another election.
I swear people these days have no clue how democracy and elections work.
What are the odds she says “Nazi?”
Maybe she will be three sheets to the wind. Plastered. Epic.
President
House
Senate
Dems, 0-3
Forgot Liberal media
0-4
Media took the biggest hit for sure. They tried to manufacture their candidate overnight, the people saw through it, just as most people have been waking up to their crap scandals. Media trust took a huge hit during the Biden admin.
Scary. No checks, no balance = not good. But I understand why the country has spoke the way in which they did.
There are still checks and balances.
Dems can filibuster.
(Unless you now support Kamala’s position of eliminating the filibuster)
The house will barely be a majority.
Those still qualify as checks and balances.
And in two years, the people will decide to check that power.
Just heard McConnell speak. With Repubs in charge, there will be no ‘pack the Supreme Court’ everytime there’s an unpopular decision. There will still be a filibuster to protect the interests of the minority (will not be thrown out cause they can’t pass something). and there will be not states added to get a bigger majority.
Seems a lot of checks are still in place
McConnell is the scum of the universe.
You might have that opinion, but those are things that Schumer wanted to do….
Schumer is the scum of the universe.
So is Pelosi… ick!
You don’t have to tell me that. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
And his points in this instance are spot on.
I guess my point is I don’t think he or many others actually believe this stance, they believe this stance because it gives them the upper hand. If there were more Dem appointed Judges on the Supreme Court and Pub Prez then I’d bet everything I own a large portion of those against pack the supreme court would be for it and the vice versa too. Dems would then be against it. Most people don’t actually stand on principle.
If that were true, how come when Trump first got elected, and Repubs controlled both houses, they couldn’t get his tax plan thru because they didn’t have 60 votes. They could have by eliminating the filibuster.
Been around for a while, and can’t recall Repubs talking about packing the court or eliminating the filibuster. regardless of situation.
The Dems have talked about doing these things going back to FDR.
I found an example I just posted that a Republican DID expand their state supreme court in 2016… been around since then? It was the state supreme court but again, it’s the principle of the matter and Republicans are not inherently more moral or above that principle.
I follow national politics. There is no way in hell I can know, or would want to know what 50 different state politicians did over the last 70 years.
We are talking ‘national politics’ here – yes?
We are talking about Republicans being above the notion of packing/expanding a court when it has been a situation that would benefit them. That is what we are talking about. If you want to narrow the scope because it fits your narrative that’s I guess you weak argumentative prerogative.
News flash, they aren’t. They are just as dirty as the left.
I, and I mean me, was talking about packing the US Supreme Court.
If, at the state or local level, some politician does some cheap ass thing, I am not supporting that.
My entire discussion, points presented here, were about US Congress and US Supreme Court.
I do NOT need to narrow the scope because I am at the same scope throughout.
Are we going to go to the local dog catcher next?
I thought we were talking US Supreme Court, as well.
I understand but my point was Dems and Republicans will play dirty pool if it benefits them. This corner of internet thinks only Dems are dirty because they are blinded by identity politics.
No… the left is hell bent on destroying anyone who disagrees with them. You keep pushing the false narrative the two sides are equally vitriolic and dirty. Nothing can be further from the truth. This corner of the internet refuses to accept that lie. You are completely ignoring reality, and insulting us by saying we’re brainwashed. Bullshit.
They aren’t equal, that’s true. But to just say the left is hell bent on destroying… is just going to prove why I shouldn’t engage with you in these conversations. It’s not true. It’s so provably not true it’s baffling you could believe it. Are there PEOPLE from the left that want that? Yes. Are there more people like that on the left? Yes. But that’s only at this time. This pendulum keeps swinging. In my lifetime when I was young it was the right that was the group trying ban things and stop free speech and such. Yes it has swung to the left. But I’m willing to bet it swings back in within the next 2 decades, watch. This is what happens when you don’t actually stand on principle.
I do not know how old you are, but I believe we are within 10 years of each other. Just curious what was being banned or what version of free speech was the right trying to take away. I remember the right complaining about Eminem songs talking about setting people on fire, but not trying to ban it.
I remember Tipper Gore putting parental advisory on music. I remember the governor of NY (name is slipping my mind) limiting how large of a soda you can purchase. Newsome and Walz are limiting the type of vehicles we will be able to purchase.
Yes, yes they were. They were trying to make flag banning illegal. Hell it’s still the right that has an issue with people taking a knee. I disagree with taking a knee. When I was coaching football on the Rez and kids said they wanted to kneel, I said you have every right as a civilian to take a knee, but you can do it as a civilian in the stands. Not while wearing equipment paid for by tax dollars. BUT, if someone wants to do it, that’s their right.
It was the right that wanted a lot of morality items banned or laws against which also makes for a bigger government or in the least a bigger government presence in our lives. Like actual laws banning gay marriage… who was against that again?
Yeah Tipper was a bitch. Screw her and her husband.
But the late 80s and 90s was a big time deal with conservatives wanting to legislate morality.
Remember the school shootings? The Dems were trying to take everyone’s guns while the right was blaming everything on music, games, movies, etc… and wanted those banned or severely limited and regulated.
Neither side is above this stuff.
Here you go saying the right, like everyone on the right agrees. I (who I considered to be on the right, am okay with kneeling during the national anthem. I am also okay with a business saying we are not going to hire you because you kneel for the national anthem. But, once again you are preaching from the left echo chamber.
Oh and I believe some on the left started the push for it being the music, violent cartoons and violent video game’s fault for desensitizing children. Most of the left also blamed most of the right for implementing it on purpose to develop a stronger military.
Many people on both sides thought that NWA singing songs about killing police would lead to higher death rates among police officers.
It’s the LEFT that is talking about expanding the Supreme Court. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Trump is not.
Edge, I get this perspective, but seriously, the last time Trump was President, the Congressional leaders spent all their time and energy trying to destroy him. The woke left is NOT good for our country. I want strong, competent leadership that gets things done. All the left does is create more angst and problems for the country, and divides us racially. At least for one cycle, I want a conservative majority in charge. I want MY voice to finally be heard, instead of being told by the left I’m deplorable garbage.
I hope Trump learned his lesson and knows how to avoid getting entangled in all the power games this time.
I really like the team he assembled, though. I want to see Elon and Vivek roll up their sleeves and dig in.
Personally, I don’t think it would have or will matter.
Dems and the media will stop at nothing to destroy Trump.
I expect plenty of shenanigans from them the next four years.
Absolutely. Not real smart but that’s exactly what they will do.
Yeah, I kind of think they have overplayed that hand. People are sick of it and want the government to get to work fixing things rather than bitch-slapping each other all of the time.
They are going to do it, and just make people more frustrated with them.
Just heard this this morning Scarboro show.
First, people understand inflation – food prices, gasoline. Hard working people don’t like open borders.
But the reasonableness went by and was soon replaced with well Harris would have won if she was a 6’4″ male.
Stupid, can’t help themselves I guess.
“White” male…
I get it, it’s gotten so bad that neither side acts as checks or balances they are just dicks to one another. But this is where I get irritated. We both agree the woke agenda isn’t good agreed. Just as bad, as annoying, etc… is the pushy religious right. Both sides want to legislate morality and ban shit. Just make sure you include both.
Seriously – are you serious?
You think Trump is moved by the ‘pushy religious right’?
Gotta do better than that.
Trump has always been pro choice:
In an interview on NBC News’ “Meet the Press,” Trump said, “I am very pro-choice. I hate the concept of abortion. … I just believe in choice. Again, it may be a little bit of a New York background, because there is some different attitude in some different parts of the country. … I was raised in New York and grew up and worked and everything else in New York City. But I am strongly pro-choice.”
Gee I wonder why he backed off that, who do you think he is giving in to? I know you will have a bunch of work arounds but any logical person can see clearly he says differently now to give into those pushy religious right folks.
Again you point to minutia to misrepresent Trump. Hating abortion is a natural human state. You like murdering babies? No. Hating abortion, and understanding that there are always going to be real medical and practical needs for it are two different things.
Yeah, right. I misrepresented him saying “I am strongly pro choice” by saying he’s pro choice originally. Sure, yeah, totally.
I agree, there is nothing worse than the rare third trimester baby death, and having to help deliver a 7 month old fetus with perfectly formed face, hands, and feet. Ugh.
I think aborting third trimester babies would change a person, much like working the kill floor at a pig abattoir.
let’s be honest here. Do you think Trump is religious?
I doubt it.
I also think he is his own best counsel (he believes) and is going to do what he thinks best.
Push religious nor anyone else is going to “push” him around.
No, we all know he’s not. But do you remember his answer to what book of the bible is his favorite? haha.
That is an untruth Edge. It’s not both sides. Conservatives don’t conduct themselves like unhinged lunatics. We are reasonable and rational. We are accepting and gracious. We believe in pragmatic decision making, and sensible policy, not woke, emotional agenda’s. We have been silenced by the left, and labeled as anti Democracy and an existential threat to the country by our national media and Hollywood.
We are pretty sick to death of the leftist attacks on us.
lolwut? If you sincerely think there aren’t lunatics on both side you are completely and totally blinded by your political identity.
Both sides have lunatics. 100%
Which republican has ever said they want to pack the courts?
So my argument here is they don’t stand on principle right? When it suits them they can justify anything. For example:
Arizona’s governor, Republican Doug Ducey, said he opposes adding seats to the U.S. Supreme Court.
“We shouldn’t be changing our institutions,” he told reporters recently.
Yet Ducey signed a bill that did just that at the state level in 2016, expanding the Arizona Supreme Court from five seats to seven. As a result, Ducey has appointed more judges than any other governor in the state’s history.
I know it’s not the US Supreme court but the idea is the exact same. Republicans are NOT above this idea of doing it to gain an advantage.
The US Supreme Court has changed in like 150 years. What’s the deal.
The left is fundamentally flawed by their ideology. You can chant “there are lunatics on both sides” all you want. The reality is conservatives by nature, are all the things I highlighted, and liberals are not.
You sir are completely blinded by your “us vs them” identity politics. 100%
I am not blinded at all. My eyes are wide open to the immense damage the left has been doing to this country, and will continue to do, left unchecked. You sir, refuse to accept that woke policies and agenda’s are unhealthy for the country, and our society. You are the one who is totally oblivious to reality.
NO I am not. I am not for the “woke agenda” but I also don’t bunch whole groups together. I recognize that there are radical people on the left, unlike most everyone around here I realize the truth that that does not mean the entire left is radical. You all have just bought into that narrative from sensationalized media of your party’s side.
So the non stop media, which is at least 90% leftwingers, of calling Trump Hitler and a fascist has made us buy into Trump?
That’s some serious out of touch spin by you.
You know, I do think the overblown, all out, vitriolic assaults on Trump by the leftist media, turned the tide. People finally said, this is just total bullshit.
Haha yeah, but it’s like a 1:30 ratio versus the left, as far as the unhinged go.
Just not true, just a skewed perspective.
I don’t think so. Might be higher than that, even. You’re entitled to you own (skewed) opinion, though.
House is still up in the air.
Just happy i don’t have to listen to that annoying laugh.
I heard they’re going to start using recordings of her to interrogate suspected terrorists since water boarding is frowned upon.
This was one of my greatest fears….listening to her voice for 4 years. And we’re talking Donald Trump’s voice on the other side! Talk about bad then.
Same.
OMG – like getting a route canal.
They will cheat the count to magically gain control of the House, likely. Nobody is watching anymore.
OK guys, a work question.
The company I work for has given out Employee Service Awards on every 5th year anniversary of working for them. It’s a nice touch, and very much appreciated.
On my 5th year I got a plaque and $50. 10 years, another plaque and $100. 15 years, a plaque, dinner with the boss, and $150.
I hit 20 years the first week of October.
Crickets.
Is it wrong to drop hints? I don’t want to outright ask if they stopped doing it and look like the greedy employee.
just walk into your boss’s office polishing one of your plaque’s and just shoot the breeze with them
I LIKE IT!!!
I would directly ask the office manager at my workplace. She is there to deal with that sort of thing. But I have a nice office manager.
Don’t quite understand? Is there NO 20 year Service Award already in place? Or, did someone just forget yours?
There are a few people here that have already passed 20 years, and they got their awards.
I’m thinking they either forgot about it (we got a new boss 3 years ago (not sure that she’s been a part of Service Awards yet) and management has been seriously busy this fall (we acquired 5 new buildings this year)), or they are planning something for maybe at the Christmas party?
I don’t want to be the guy ruining his own surprise party…..but I did have plans for the $200.
They put out a Company newsletter every month, and usually it lists employee birthdays and employment anniversaries that month. Haven’t seen those included for 4-5 months now.
Maybe small inuentos here and there, ” never thought I’d make 20 years here ” or. “can’t wait to celebrate my 20 th anniversary ” someone will pick up on it.
Get your resume updated.
I’d be worried, but we just got significant raises last month because of staffing shortages.
I would just walk in and ask the boss if they stopped doing length of service awards.
My 15 year LOS is next year, I’ll certainly bring it up as I like to cry like a stuck pig if I fail to receive my entitlements.
I have my 25 year in February. I think I’m going to buy an Xbox Series S with that $250. That is my plan anyway.
I want to do some video gaming in the dead of winter.
This week is national Radiologic Technologist week. Our department did a little “guess who I am” trivia. The hints are really tough. One is I LOVE TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES which I’m guessing people will think is me since I have mentioned my little driving station for Forza, etc. I actually haven’t touched the Xbox in about three months.
My hint is actually I have to eat a banana every day…EVERY DAY!
I started eating an apple a day. Total game changer. I used to have a lot of GI issues. Apple a day fixed like 75 percent of it.
I don’t like apples, but dang…they make a difference.
honeycrisp apples this time of year are amazing.
i’ve been here for 18 years and i haven’t gotten one single award.
That’s because you are still working on the same battery exchange.
My achievement has been successfully avoiding being in any group photos of the momentous achievement of things like being employed for 10 years.
Just walk into the office and do this….
That may be in the plans in about 10 years.
For my 35th the office got me a FitBit…you think they are trying to tell me something??
Insurance companies offer those free so you will exercise more.
The Teacher has signed up and tried to get to me to as well.
After a while she quit trying their ‘program. I have always exercised more than The Teacher but we have walked together when our schedule permits.
I always like the gag where people turn rants into songs. I think the Christian Bale one was the first one I heard. This one is pretty good, though…
Edge’s band needs to cover this. It’s actually kind of a banger tune!
Especially true today.
This makes me as happy as Trump winning. Bye, bye Tester!
Sweet!
Kamala still hasn’t spoke to the public. Even some on the left are saying this is crap and a sign of her weakness.
Class(less) act!
Not a peep.
#Where’sKamala…
I always thought she was in on the joke that she was a bonafide candidate and not a puppet, but it is looking like she takes herself seriously.
@It’s a real shame that we don’t get to see how she would react when her policies were rebuffed by a Republican House and Senate, or when Xi Jingping refuses to accede to her request to vacate the Spratly Islands.@
New Sheriff in town. Bet the Iranians aren’t too happy.
Something seems off here. I just can’t put my finger on it…..
nooooooooo what?!?! everything was definitely on the up and up in 2020….
Record turnout, but less votes? That math just ain’t mathin.
The only states Kamala won are those that don’t require voter ID.
Delaware requires voter ID.
We are a racist state here.
The missing 20 million is all of the women who died because they couldn’t get abortions.
I’m surprised it was so few actually…
I mean some of it was probably from universal mail in ballots due to covid, but not that many.
They pulled off an enormous cheat 4 years ago. Proof right there.
Even half that number (even 1/4) is a huge number.
Saw this one live last night and it was hilarious. Trump only lost New York by like 5%. New York was closer to going red than Texas was blue. That seemed to be the case in most places.
Dems laying in the bed they made. You spend the last 4 year doing a weekend at Bernies with Biden while saying he’s super sharp and isn’t in decline or whatever. And then do a bait and switch for Harris because Biden is in such a steep decline… then wonder why people don’t trust you.
Obama and Clayburn screwed the democrats. Actually started four years ago but because of Covid it worked once.
What? I understand not agreeing with his policies but how did Obama and Clayburn screw them?
First, four years ago, after Harris ran a terrible campaign and came in last in the Dem (and first out) they demanded Harris be on the ticket as the VP. Biden caved.
Just one month before Biden dropped out, there was talk from the WH that Harris was a drag on the campaign. VP usually doesn’t matter, but with Biden’s age, it was an issue. The Biden camp wanted to replace her.
Then the debate happened and Dems. knew they were screwed. They wanted him replaced – but who? Obama and Clayburn then stepped up and said Harris or nothing, and if they did something differently they would lose the entire black vote.
So, as a party, they were forced into where they ended up. Big time power politics.
Oh gotcha! I thought you were saying this was tied to the Obama term as president but you are saying his involvement with Biden’s campaign I got you now.
JR, good commentary,but you seem to forget, the only reason Kamala was the Dem candidate was the money. The Biden-Harris campaign had garnered a huge amount of campaign funds, and if anyone other than Harris became the nominee, all that money would have had to be returned, per Federal Election Commission rules. It was too late to start fundraising efforts for a new candidate, and no way in hell were the Dems letting go of that money.
there was that too. But knowing the dems, they probably would figure something out.
The easy answer (appointing Cackles) is frequently not the right answer (having a mini primary).
Don’t you bet they wish they would have done that now.
Hindsight is 20/20 usually.
Something reasonable I actually agree with!
Rec for truth.
For sure this. Also people are starting to wake up a bit from the media machine.
Biggest loser of this election, besides Harris obviously, is the mainstream media. Their campaign of demonizing Trump didn’t work one bit. They can’t reach the people anymore. Very encouraging.
It was interesting flipping back and forth between networks last night to see the different takes.
Also, for some reason this morning Fox clawed back calling Sheehy for Senate, although Tester was giving a concession speech at the same time. Not sure why, I thought at the time they clawed back that Tester might be contesting the result. Six terms in Senate, he must have a mountain of lobbyists at his beck and call.
I do worry about how he sold out the Department of Education last time to a religious nut. This man can and has been bought his first term. He admitted on Rogan he didn’t know what he was doing and made mistakes (but the whole time lied as said he had all the best people and knew exactly what he was doing, typical business man). No excuses this time Don.
Instead of selling it out, this time he should abolish it.
AMEN
As long as it isn’t a front to funnel public tax dollars into funding religious indoctrination like it was last time he was in office. I am good with it.
MORE ANTI-GAY CAMPS!!!!!
(kidding)
“Put them on an island and nuke them!” – Mike Priefer
Do you live near a large city?
When Obama was president he pulled all funding from Catholic Schools. Living in DC, these schools all closed.
Interestingly, over half the kids in those schools were black.
they are know back in public schools and doing poorly just like the rest of the DC kids.
Educational socialism. If everybody fails, only the elite will succeed but at least 95% of the people will be on the same playing field. Making everybody equal by bringing everybody down is easier than bringing everybody up.
Even beyond education, it seems the middle class is figuring this out.
Yeah, that’s not how it works. There are all sorts of AP classes. Dual credit classes, lots of programs out there now for accelerated learned etc… It’s not the 80s.
Where to you live? Go to the downtown schools in DC. Philly, Chicago Baltimore.
AP classes – you got to be kidding me. Real world stuff.
Well I do understand where you are coming from. I live in a rural community. I did live on a very impoverished reservation and coached and dealt with the education system. I see what you are saying but the answer isn’t religious schools. Again, if it is, then that shows your real intent has isn’t to do with caring about their education. It’s just about the pushing religion.
Again, private schools don’t have to accept kids with special needs fuck them right?
The religion is not the issue. I could care if they said one word about it. But they provide an education and the church subsidizes it some.
These public schools are a disgrace and everyone in this country should want them fixed. These are American’s kids, and future.
Constitution this, constitution that, our constitution says the federal government cannot promote a religion because we have freedom of religion, that part isn’t hard to figure out.
But I agree about the education system. Everyone should want to fix it. They are our future. The problem is every person thinks because they went to school they have the answers. Times change. We want real changes and we should be listening to the teachers.
Well the government – which seems to “claim” whatever it wants – can simply say the funding is going for “education” NOT “religion.
Stupidly, and a huge problem I have with government, DO NOT throw the baby out with the bath until/unless you have a better solution.
Government stopped funding here, screwed a great many poor kids, and offered NO replacement.
I think that is dead wrong. The poor kids don’t give a damn about the gov/religion argument.
Politicians from the left screwed the kids. They took away the funding. The whole of Government didn’t do this. It was a leftist initiative executed by a leftist President.
I was being kind and trying to hold the “high ground.”
Well no. One of the most damning things to education was the “No Child Left Behind” act which was put into place by Bush. That took a lot of funds away specifically from struggling schools.
I think it’s funny people around here pretend to care about the struggling inner city schools by saying take tax dollars away from those schools so they can send their kids to a private school making those inner city school worse. That’s like saying I care about the starving kids of this country, can I please have what little food they get to feed my kids?
Why couldn’t there be a private school for special needs kids that also gives those kids better treatment than they currently get at the public schools? I can tell you that there are many, many SpEd teachers that would be all over that. The teachers that teach SpEd do it because they love their kids. My mother in law could have retired years ago but refuses to because she cares too much about her kids. Imagine the good that would come if those same teachers didn’t have to deal with the government bureaucracy and were simply able to build a school designed fully around providing the best environment for those kids.
Private schools can accept special needs kids but they don’t have to. If they accept federal funding then they should have to.
They wouldn’t be getting federal funding. I would get my tax money back, or a portion of it at least, to offset the money I am paying. The problem with forcing them to take SpEd kids is that the schools are typically smaller so the percentages don’t work. A small enough school would just randomly have a kid show up from year to year and wouldn’t necessarily be able to guarantee a job for a teacher. If it were me, I’d start a small private school and a small SpEd school and you could bring the kids together for certain things (really no different than what the public schools do). The SpEd kids would end up with a better situation than the current public school situation and the regular school side would be great.
Tell me that if you had a SpEd kid you wouldn’t prefer to send them to a SpEd designed school over a public school. If I had the funds and there were vouchers, I know enough people that care so much about the education of SpEd kids that I could open up a ridiculously successful SpEd school tomorrow. The problem is that people can’t afford that. Give those people their tax money back and let them send their kids to a school designed around the abilities and disabilities of their kids.
The Clause “Least Restrictive environment”
Federal funding should NOT go towards pushing a religion. This isn’t rocket surgery. On top of that, private schools don’t have to accept kids with special needs and all sorts of stuff. If you want to be a private school and get the benefits of that, fine, but YOU yourself have to pay for it. Not the tax payers.
I’m not asking for tax payers to pay for my kids to go for private school. I’m simply saying I shouldn’t have to fund the shitty public schools and also have to pay for my kids to go to a decent school. Just give me my tax dollars back to use towards the school of my choice until my kids are out of school.
Bingo
Really? That’s not how it works. You have to pay the taxes even the ones you don’t want to pay just like everyone else. If after that you want to send your kids to a private school you pay for it. If I want to build a private anything, I don’t get the tax dollars back from the public version I don’t use… like what?
I am 100% with Edge on this one. You don’t get to pick and choose what your taxes do. Taxes aren’t like charitable donations.
Maybe we’re getting taxed too much then. I’m not saying carte blanche not paying taxes for things I don’t use. Even if I don’t like it, when my kids are done with school, fine, take my money without my permission and feed your machine, but in the meantime, my money should go to my family. If you don’t want me to leave your public school, make your public school good enough that I don’t want to.
Perhaps if we paid less taxes, the government would have less money to piss away.
Let’s see if Elon can do to the government what he did to Twitter. One can only hope.
Correct. Taxation is theft.
We started a war over a tax on tea and say nothing about every thought and action being taxed now.
Indeed. Boston Tea Party should be remembered much more often.
Correct. Taxes are basically armed robbery.
So screw it, for lack of a good solution to ease the minds of the religion zealets, let’s just screw the poor kids from the one little advantage that is available.
Do you realize over 95% of the kids graduating from 8th grade in Baltimore, can’t read and write, or do arithmetic.
Do you realize, using that as vessel to send them to a religious school is a sham that shows you don’t actually care about their education situation but rather just care about proselytizing religion?
Like seriously? They don’t need more religion classes and a book shoved down their throat that supports slavery. They need more EDUCATION but even before that… you aren’t getting any kid to learn anything that lives in absolute squalor. If you actually care about their education situation, they need a safe home situation. I have seen that on the rez when I lived there.
I could carer less about the religion.
The point is education.
If you have a kid going to any of those public schools I mentioned. that Kid is just screwed – for life.
But while there were a few Catholic Schools, a “few” of those kids had a change to actually get an education. Would like more, but “few” is better than none.
Have you ever been inside one of these inter city schools? If your kid doesn’t get killed, that is a plus.
Private does not mean religious. You can have a private, non-religious affiliated school.
What about non religious private schools?
Charter and grant schools. They exist. But again then the problem is you are taking funds literally away from those already struggling schools. People don’t seem to want to address the issue if we pull all that funding away from schools what do the kids do that are already in run down, shitty schools that will now receive even less funding?
For sure. and somebody somewhere needs to figure out how to take quality of education away from the Teacher’s Union.
School choice would be an easy start. If people are leaving the public schools, then they don’t get as much money but they won’t need it anyway because they will need less teachers. A teacher could take on 5 kids privately, take the voucher money, make way more than they do in the public system and the kids get almost one on one education. The bad ones will be weeded out and the good ones will thrive. Get a half dozen good ones together and start a small private school. Grow it like a real business. If you bring in the good teachers, the students will follow.
School choice would be great and it is a huge plus for poor kids. Dems will fight it like hell as the Teachers Unions are their biggest donors .
Give control back to the State and local districts.
So MAGAGA…???
I am glad Trump won, he was the better option. With that said I am very much looking forward to commenting on here. I think I have only been here during the Biden Puppet Administration. We can all agree no president does all bad or all good things. But in my time here literally 99.9% of everything posted about the executive branch has had a bad take on it. I am sure it will now be 99.9% good. If that does happen… be honest with yourselves… you have built yourself an echo chamber and you have become very, VERY biased and swayed by it. Either that or you don’t actually care about the reality of things and just care about pushing an agenda you’ve been conditioned to push from your echo chamber. Biden did a lot of stupid shit, it wasn’t all bad. Trump will do some good things… it won’t be all good. I got a funny feeling only the good Trump will do will be posted and the bad will be ignored or defended… it’s how identity politics works.
As far as SD goes… I don’t understand why they won’t just legalize recreational weed… it’s so dumb.
BUT even dumber than that, the state of SD doesn’t want the governor referred to as “the governor” they prefer “he.” SO, Governor Kristi Noem shall not be referred to as “The Governor” but rather as, “he” that’s some funny shit. Tells you how stupid the voter base is in SD.
“Your either biased…..or you don’t actually care about things.. ”
OK, I’ll stop beating my wife too.
Wait what did South Dakota do? Why are they so obsessed with pronouns!!!?
So they had an initiative changing the constitution from where it says “he” in reference to the governor and would change it to “the governor” all the amendment did is change it to say the name of the position it was referring to instead of just “he.” And it got shot down with like 60+ percent against it. Incredible. They just immediately think, THIS IS A WOKE ITEM MUST VOTE NOOOOO!!!! And what’s funny is people who are against preferred pronouns are like, “we should call a he a he and a she a she, people should be called what they are!” Our governor is a she… but they want them referred to as a he…
I think I’d be more worried about the fact that your legislature wasted time writing that. Having the constitution say “he” literally means nothing and is a pretty common occurrence in legal stuff. Was that really the best use of the legislature’s time?
let me guess, you still call your PRIMARY BEDROOM, “Masters Suite” you racist, sexist, bigot
That’s just a stupid excuse. It’s on there. It makes sense. We are just updating something from the 1800s. Fuckin dumb.
With no skin in the game, I don’t think I’d really care either way. It furthers my dislike of all ballot initiatives though. I would bet it was written on the ballot by somebody who wanted it to fail and the vast majority of the population is too stupid to research things. The abortion initiative here was the same thing. They worded it so that if you didn’t know what it really was it sounded great. Same with the two voting initiatives here. If they’re going to put initiatives on the ballot, then it should be the actual text of the law. It is too easy to word things to make them sound good or bad.
Was there more involved with the initiative. Like, in Minnesota, they had an initiative to extend money from the Lottery going to clean water initiatives. However, they added that it would no longer be controlled by the legislature, it would be controlled by an appointed panel, made up of DEI hires. I voted no, due to the appointed panel. Doesn’t mean I don’t want the money to go towards clean water.
No, the only thing it did was change the wording in the state constitution from “he” to “the governor”
Seems odd they would elect a woman governor but not refer her to as the governor or she, maybe she didn’t give enough blowjobs in the corn field?
Also, l agree with you, I don’t like Trump much but he is obviously the better choice
YES.
One thing I am interested in watching is Elon entering the government with a giant pair of scissors. I am curious to see how that shakes out.
He should call Javier Milei and gets some tips.
This is what I am most curious about as well.
I would pay good money to see that.
I hear Trump will give Russia the Ukrainian province of Armpitchia, the bastard! He’s gotta go.
Happy with Presidential result. Annoyed with my state of ND. Legalize weed you cowards! I thought for sure that one would pass. Just stupid.
Thought you were an “alcohol guy.”
Ill puff puff pass in rare occasions. Also enjoy edibles when I can get my hands on them. Even if I didnt smoke I know plenty of people that do, as well as use products for pain that arent available here. There’s zero good reason to not have it legalized at this point, besides old people scared of the stigma of Mary Jane by the lie that has been pushed since the 1930’s. End rant.
It’s just so stupid it’s not legal. So, so stupid. I rarely partake anymore. My wife had a THC drink last night… slept like a rock lol.
My tolerance to it is so low, the last time I took one of those drinks I felt fuuucked up lol. But also slept great.
Same, also I have a hard time letter go and just going for the ride. I fight against the high which isn’t good.
I think thats where the paranoia comes in. I just let it happen, dont fight it like the alcohol buzz.
I don’t fight alcohol buzz and have gotten better about weed but sometimes the buzz for some reason I fight it instead of letting go. My meditation routines have helped with that.
Not a big issue to me one way or the other. Smoke, drink in their own home, good by me.
Cheers
Montana is a pretty short drive for you, or I guess MN.
There is a reason little old Glendive has 7 dispensaries, and rakes in the tax dollars.
Is the billboard still up at the border warning people to pay their taxes on tobacco? I laughed at that one so many times.
No, I haven’t seen that one for a while.
Glendive or Fairview. Both are like..3-4 hrs away.