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Not much new going on in Vikings land. Fans anxiously await Sunday’s matchup against the Titans where we HOPE that the Vikings offense can try to look like…….an offense. The passing attack last Sunday was not fun to watch, and with Aaron Jones nursing sore ribs, the team needs Sam Darnold to step up and take some pressure off the running game by getting the ball into the hands of one of the Vikings’ many playmakers (not the opposing team’s playmakers, thank you).
Vikings/NFL News and Updates:
USA Today asks whether Russell Wilson deserves consideration in NFL MVP voting. Apparently someone is hitting the sauce pretty early over at USA Today.
At ESPN, they’re looking at the 2025 NFL draft order, where the Giants and Patriots battle it out for the “top” spot. I’d rather be looking at the playoffs, thankyouverymuch.
NBC New York looks at key dates in the 2024-25 NFL season.
Media Selection:
Here’s a great song from the golden age of soul. CAUTION: NSFW LANGUAGE!!!
I always treat retail people (and food service folks) nicely, because they do a job I could not do. This song would be me as an employee, I’d probably last about three minutes.
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Watching Darrell Green get interviewed on GMFB….
All smiles, talking about how blessed he is/was – face beaming when talking about his grandchildren (17!) and how honored he was that Washington retired his jersey – went so far as to say it might not have been deserved…..
It was.
One of my favorite players as a kid – known as ‘The NFL’s Fastest Man’ (allegedly ran a 4.09 40, routinely) but he was so much more. Great kick/punt returner. Legit shutdown corner despite being 5’9” who was also a great tackler. Unselfish too – played special teams throughout his career. Tough. Durable.
I think he was the greatest cornerback of all time.*
*might be the weed talking
🔨🔨
He was pretty good, maybe the best of his era.
Best of all time?
Don’t claim to know all the CBs so cannot give an opinion.
Thursday Injury Report.
I can post a new thread tomorrow.
Today sucked. That is all.
Ditto.
The sun will rise in the morning.
Got this Email unsolicited from a vendor regarding ACTIVE SHOOTER Training.
I’m calling because I thought you would be the best contact for me to reach out to. I wanted to present our Active Shooter Awareness program or ASAP solution to your team. It’s software based, so you can use it online or through our mobile app, but really it’s intended to help reduce response time if there’s an emergency that occurs on property. So I’m sure you have something in place to send messages. This is more potentially to augment and enhance your existing systems, although we can handle the whole spectrum of messaging need
My response.
We’re good…I have an army veteran with special forces training on staff that I have told to please carry at the office.
Nice, went through active shooter training, blah blah blah, if you can’t escape and must fight use something as a weapon like a desk phone or fire extinguisher etc. Thought to myself, wouldn’t it be better just to let me carry at work? CEO told me he’d fire me on the spot if I carry at work.
stupid ceo.
Run, Hide, Fight. The course in three words.
Response plan: Jog to pickup, retrieve firearms, neutralize threat, get coffee.
Another wow – RFK jr to be HHS secretary.
WOW WOW WOW
thought this was pretty much a given, considering trumps speech about letting rfk get in there and really do his thing in terms of making things healthy
Thought it would be Carson with RFK in some Special Advisor position.
I love that
BTW, question for my Minnesota brothers…what happens to Tim Walz now? Does he just return to the governor’s mansion like nothing happened?
Yep, but he won’t have the trifecta he had before, so nothing gets done for another 2 years.
Which is a good thing. Since they spent an $18billion surplus and over spent to the point we will be in a deficit for years to come.
At least all the pheasants are safe.
Part of me wants to think, that the pheasant hunting, gun loading issue was planned, to make it look like he really isn’t into guns. To pander to the left anti-gun people.
He keeps being creepy
4 people in Calif were arrested after claiming a bear savaged the interior of their Rolls Royce Silver Shadow. They even had film to back up the claim, Insurance and police said it was obviously a person in a bear suit.
Got to give them an E for effort I guess.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/4-arrested-california-car-insurance-155713523.html
Ah, the good ol’ “the dog ate my homework” excuse.
i’m not panicking at all about mccarthy…
i KNOW he’s done and we’re screwed, nothing to be panicking about at all.
If he sits out the entire 2025 season, I say we take advantage and sign him for a sweet team friendly 5 year 250 million guaranteed contract.
Great deal! And then we can wait for him to break out any season!
Get your picks in for Pick ‘Em League. It’s so urgent, it requires a saxophone solo!
Ah uh…..
He was ramping up PT and Work outs and there was swelling (a common thing after his type of operation) hence the injection.
I think they are not being transparent. No orthopedic surgeon would call an injection of PRP a “surgery”. They did more than a PRP injection, TMIK.
And what if they also did a procedure to relieve drainage from fluid build?
Ah, now you are buying what I am selling. There was some parameniscal cyst or seroma or such. Maybe they stitched up rent in the meniscocapsular recess, maybe they just drained and injected a sclerosant in a seroma, etc…
I think I read on the first post it was a biologic, I was thinking stem cells.
Yeah, that’s been the report.
But this is new….
he believes there is “some level on concern” internally
What that “level” is, I have no clue.
You headed to Nashville this weekend right?
Enjoy Nashville and remember it has one of the highest murder rates in the US.
That’s what I am going to tell my son, as he and his groomsmen, are going for the bachelor party.
Do a contract extension for Darnold right now? wonder what they could get him for on a two year deal?
No.
Aaron Rodgers will be a free agent next year….
At this point Darnold better than Rogers. And more so next year.
Zactly
I don’t know what that is, but it frightens me.
I got a message from my Mom saying she would not be hosting Thanksgiving this year. My family is complicated so I will spare you all the details. So I am making my first Thanksgiving dinner for my brothers family and mine.
Planning on frying a cajun turkey and making my own ham. Never did either one, I have made canadian bacon before, so I’m not jumping in too deep.
What is everyone else doing for Turkey day?
We go to my BIL’s house.
I make Mac & Cheese.
I have made that for the last 4-5 years. This time I think I will make it on the smoker, along side the ham.
Making me hungry already…..
We may be just the two of us this year after the move out of state.
My family has a history of last minute decisions and the travel is now and issue for them.
Her family is closer now but all have other family that then normally do Turkey Day with.
We are planning the two of us here but are open to changes.
We’re hosting. Turkey and ham. Mashed potatoes. Everyone’s invited, although the daughter has said she will not attend if son is there. My wife decided to let the adults handle it on their own, we will be happy with whoever attends.
Every family has drama. Can I join the club?
Everyone is welcome, in the crazy family club.
I am smoking a turkey in the kamado. Turns out great. We have hosted for years.
This year it is just my wife and I.
Both of my kids are somehow very liberal, and one now hates me for not voting for Kamala.
I mentioned that if Kamala had won, I would not hate them.
I do not hate them for voting for Socialism, why do they hate me for voting for limited government?
Seems silly but the spouse of one child is causing the major rift. Not seeing them for Thanksgiving or Christmas.
If this continues, I can move to a warmer climate. we are only here because of family, and if they are done with me, I can move.
That is crazy, but I understand.
Left and Logic does not get along.
Sorry for the family drama.
My family seldom talks politics and if then only brief jabs.
Sorry to hear that. Some of this makes little sense. It’s politics, not life and death.
For different reasons, this is the first time in 35 yeas it will just be me and the wife. We’re still deciding exactly what to have. Seems like a lot of work for wife for just the two of us.
But again, sorry for the kids problems.
i’m sorry, and won’t pry into family business. but having witnessed how some of the most simplest stuff can divide family members, i feel for you and yours.
the freezeface family will be heading to my mom and dads, where they will also host my sister and her family and my pastor and his family (louisiana transplants), i’m really hoping they bring some sort of cajun something to the meal…
Deep fried turkey is da bomb….and if you don’t do it right they are the bomb – literally.
Hopefully this is redundant information and you’ve already heard it (see what I did there?):
1 – Thaw out the turkey. You can’t drop a frozen turkey slow enough into boiling grease to avoid the explosion.
2 – Before you thaw it out do a wet run in the cooker – put as much water in the cooker as you think you will need oil, lower the frozen turkey in, push it down to the bottom (if it floats) and add or remove enough water so the turkey is covered by 1/2 inch of water; remove turkey, then place a strip of tape on the outside of the cooker to mark the water level – that’s how much oil to use.
3 – Inject marinade BEFORE lowering it into the oil (doesn’t happen often, but there are reports of it happening)
4 – If the weather is bad, avoid the urge to move everything into the garage. Keep it outside. Put an EZ UP canopy over it if needed – much cheaper to replace than a garage.
Wow, it’s like you read my agenda.
My wife and I are flying to Arizona to spend thanksgiving with my son’s girlfriend’s family/extended family. I have met the parents but not the aunts/uncles etc. It should be fine, I am fairly easy to get along with and will avoid politics – I understand the parents are conservative but most of the others are libs.
Just save the political talk, for when everyone is leaving for the day.
Yes. For sure.
The only other time you will see them is at the wedding.
Probably…..
I would wear a Trump mask and put a Hitler mustache on it just for kicks.
My brother will be hunting, so him and his wife won’t be coming over, but there is a niece and her family that will be coming over. My daughter will be in Spain and the oldest son and family do not have money (that’s what having a kid that just went through leukemia will do to you), so just our middle son will be here. His wife will be at Disneyland with some of her family. That will still be about 9 of us, so we will have a good time (not a liberal in the bunch). My niece is making a ham and a turkey. Apparently my wife is doing the rest.
I was going to ask if I missed anything, but apparently not since we are still in an old thread.
Well, we are close to missing an entire Thursday.
Not sure if jumping from Wednesday to Friday has some sort of effect on the universal time warp rules though.
For those of you stressing over JJs 2nd procedure on his knee this report was written for you.
https://fansided.com/second-j-j-mccarthy-surgery-vikings-fans-mental-state
Big normal procedure. Happens with aggressive PT.
The surgery term is a bit vague. As I remember, I once got a cortisone shot in my knee, done in the doctor’s office, and it was called ‘surgery.’
They can charge more that way. Just ask MT.
The Teacher has received a couple of those for an old injury that was acting up. Don’t recall it ever being called surgery.
Of course I was just the support animal/chauffeur for her.
Maybe the East Coast doctors are always scheming for more money.
Anyway, this is NBT for JJ.
but he might want to slow things down a bit, time is on his side.
All gougers are scheming for ways to bill for more.
When The Teacher was on the hospital last year several Drs came in to check on her ‘just in case’. When I finally called them on it they suddenly decided she could be released.
Funny, I’ve never called any of the procedures I do, from joint aspiration, steroid injection right up to lung and kidney biopsies or placing a central line, surgery. In fact, if I called them surgery in the doctor’s lounge the real surgeons would give me a gonch pull and face wash in the toilet.
Yes, but the ones calling it a surgery are writers looking to get clicks.
Hope so.
Well the guys doing mine were real surgeons. In fact, the orthapedic staff for the Redskins.
And as I remember, they couldn’t bill for an office visit and the procedure during the same visit.
And, I had a knee replacement that wasn’t done in a hospital – more like some center for the doctors, and went home following the procedure.
Maybe it’s different in different areas.
And as I recall, when my wife goes to the dermatologist and gets AK’s sprayed with NO they call this surgery on the bill.
Per google AI:
The Current Procedural Terminology (CPT) code for treating actinic keratosis (AK) with liquid nitrogen, or cryotherapy, is 17000 for the first lesion and 17003 for each additional lesion
Sounds like the derm needs a swirly.
Probably – never trusts them anyway. Bu they somehow get paid.
BTW…this is not medical advice…just something that…um…a friend uses on skin lesions like AK’s.
Check on amazon…
Skin Clinic FREEZE ‘n CLEAR™ Advanced Wart Remover
That’s some serious advice.
You got me…the friend is Freezeface.
thanks – I’ll check it out.
As you know, these damn things can lead to the MOHS and I’m getting tired of that.
Obvious advice is obvious…if it doesn’t look like a typical AK get it checked out*
*my friend’s advice
You had me at joint aspiration…..
you are so easy…..
Heard he’s cheap too.
Those that believed that BS must have their heads spinning right now.
Was that they truth or is now the truth. Might be a Red Pill moment for them.
It was a sham all along and most knew it. But if it got Harris elected so be it. Today, tomorrow or sometime, you have to face the music. Sham is over.
Of course it was a sham.
My point was about those with such a strong case of TDS that they believed it.
What will they believe once their heads finish exploding?
Well perhaps I’m still on an election high. For sure they all have TDS, but quite a few of the “all” really knew the Hitler stuff was complete BS.
Most will get over it, the lunatics will be out there forever.
The really good news, if much of Trump’s plans work and life gets better for Americans, healing will happen real fast. Hitler will again become a 20th century event.
The two who tried to shoot DT sure believe it.
I guess the old adage ‘People will believe what they want to believe’ holds true.
Just like Edge believes we are all ‘brainwashed or stupid’.
I still have hope for Edge, maybe even Lifer too.
I try to be an optimist.
You are a better man than me.
Too many years working in Prison I guess.
‘Once a man tells you what he thinks of you believe him.’
Not better – I’m just having a ‘positive day.’ Really am on a post election high.
Yes better, I am on a post election high as well.
I still don’t trust Edge on Politics, football, etc he is fine.
I don’t trust Lifer on anything, too mentally and emotionally unstable.
Now, I didn’t say trust – just hope for.
I only good so far, even on a good day.
A fine distinction, Mea Culpa.
Edge just likes to call everyone out for generalizing, but when you call him out for generalizing, he just says you know what I mean. It drives me crazy when people do that.
His generalizing is smarter than anyone/everyone elses generalizing.
The Douche wants to keep playing in 2025.
Will the Jets cut him and eat his salary?
Not unless they find a better option.
Maybe draft a QB and let them sit behind him for a year.
Are we worried about McCarthy’s knee? Do we also need to pick a QB again?
Nah.
History will repeat itself.
GB QB goes to the Jets, then to Minny.
The Douche here?
Yup, quite possible. If he can have a season like Favre’s first year in purple, why not. I’m worried about McCarthy’s knee, it’s the Vikings and we can’t have nice things. It is known.
#nojinx
If the Jets cut him in 2025, he is a free agent.
Not sure he would want below market money though.
Offset language ala Wilson?
I am. Very much so.
Get out of here with your gouger opinions! He’s gonna be fine!
He’s….gonna be …. fine…..right?
Oh oh… that would be a major blow if it would turn out that he can’t play at all because of the knee. We once had a promising WR who tore all his tendons or something and never played a meaningful snap for the Vikings…
#nojinx
Eva Longoria says she and family have moved out of ‘dystopian’ US
Hopefully the first of many.
Won’t miss her.
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Well, she is married to a very wealthy Mexican businessman. One would think she would move to Mexico just as a practical matter.
So we skip Thorsday this week? Still Wednesday?
Admins are still hiding in their safe spaces after the election.
My liberal friends have been uncharacteristically silent on facebook…I believe they are posting but excluding me…
That’s O.K. they likely need a safe space to vent and cry to each other.
Maybe they Unfriended you quietly.
The Teacher said ‘that is a thing’.
She is my favorite Adam’s family character.
Same here.
SWAMP NEWS
John Bolton, swamp neocon and overall asshole, says Gabbard and Gaetz should go under intense FBI investigation, before Senate Hearings.
These old Republicans need to go away!
I am all for these people going under intense investigation before they take a seat a such a high office. However, I’m sure my reasons are probably different than John Bolton’s.
I have no doubt that everyone nominated has undergone several ‘intense investigations’ to get where they are.
Plus I don’t trust the FBI under the current leadership to treat anyone fairly.
this is actually interesting. FBI as been investigating Gaetz for like a year or so trying to get him on some sex,drug thing.
Now, if Gaetz gets confirmed, he’s going to be their new boss.
The FBI already guessed wrong on Trump, wonder if they learned.
They looked and found nothing that they could bring charges for.
Gaetz being their boss is like the Intel people putting Gabbard on the ‘No Fly List’ and now her being their boss.
Like Fetterman said ‘It is god level trolling of the left’.
Paybacks are hell!
And all those yardbirds over at DOJ are scared to death after spending the last four years trying everything under the sun to destroy Trump.
No wonder they have anxiety.
Between Gaetz, Musk and Ramaswamy they should be dusting off their resumes.
And they deserve it!
Yes I would say your reasons are quite different from Boltons.
Gaetz ain’t gonna make it…and I am O.K. with that.
He will make it.
Another congressman was asked about Gaetz not being confirmed and he said,
“Recess appointment. He is going to be the next AG.”
I could also see Gaetz being named Senator to fill Rubio’s spot.
Or DeSantis names himself.
Possible, not much he can accomplish as Gov. Unless he wants to continue to pad his resume for 2028.
I really like Desantis and hope he does this – gives him more national exposure. He and Vance wold make a strong ticket.
Would DeSantis accept the VP nod?
Not sure. DeSantis and Vance are similar – fiery like Trump, don’t back down and are very articulate and quick on their feet.
Not sure I see Vance going from DTs VP to Desantis’s VP.
Nor do I see DeSantis sitting behind Vance for 8 years either.
Will have to see what the political landscape looks like in 3-4 years time.
For sure Vance has the leg up in four years.
I hope we have a woman on the ticket.
A DEI hire?
If a woman is best for the job (Gabbard) I am all for it.
If we have one on the ticket just because she is a woman (Cackles) then no thank you.
Why? Curious.
Well, 50% of the electorate is female. There are many women that could do the job just as well as a man. We are in the 21st century.
I think it would be a colossal FU to the electorate to have two white men as the R ticket.
So DEI.
Why don’t we get the two best qualified people regardless of race and gender.
Oh and we just had two white males run and win, was that a ‘colossal FU to the electorate’?? Considering the results, the electorate didn’t seem to think so.
If you can honestly say that if the presidential ticket for both parties were two Black women and you wouldn’t think twice that it is odd that your demographic (white male in my case) isn’t represented, then I truly applaud you.
I can say I would happily vote for them (obviously I don’t have a choice), but if/when it happens I would notice it. Just being honest.
I really like JD Vance, but I believe there are other qualified women on the Hill that would do as good a job as he will as VP.
I guess I don’t like the DEI moniker being applied to just trying to mirror the people you are representing.
When you decide someone should be selected due to ‘what they are’ that is the definition of of DEI.
Me supporting two black women? Obviously it would depend on who they were and what they stood for.
Condoleezza Rice and Candance Owens, yes I would vote for that ticket.
Now if you are looking at candidates and looking at balance for the ticket like east vs west coast, rust belt vs bible belt and male vs female then yes gender makes sense to be considered. But first you find the qualified candidates and then pick among them based on those other factors.
No one can convince me that Cackles was picked because she was the most qualified candidate.
I believe the alt history that President Biden felt he was qualified and able to complete a second term. When the mountain of pressure came on him to step aside, he immediately endorsed Kamala as a big FU to the swamp making him look like a fool for saying only the good lord almighty would make him step aside.
PS my qualifications are that I watch House of Cards.
In 2024 yes.
FJB had dementia so his ‘beliefs’ and choices were suspect and likely influenced by his Dr, Dr Jill.
In 2020 he picked a DEI candidate that would not make him look stupid, hence Cackles.
If Candace Owens and Harris Faulkner are the ticket I am all over it….I will campaign door to door.
Not familiar with Harris Faulkner, will have to look up.
Another good one.
Well I’m a “form follows substance” guy.
So, if the best candidate is female – great. If not, go with best.
Trump did not nominate him to ‘not make it’.
Gaetz already resigned from the House so no pesky investigation to deal with. Plus Speaker Johnson said that now they may be able to hold the special election to get his replacement in by Jan 6th.
Gaetz just won reelection with 66% of the vote in his district. Him as the head of DOJ will be fun.
I see Everson, is still having issues, got a DUI.
There but for the Grace of God……
I probably should have had a handful of those in my 20s and 30s..stupid stupid stupid.
It’s still Wednesday,
Wed Injury report.
Not too bad, Good to see the Cashman and Pace at full.
I see Cashman went from Toe to Elbow, is that better?
My unprofessional opinion would be yes it is better. It means his turf toe which can be nagging and easily re-aggravated, is fine.
Hopefully not Zimmer level ‘fine’.
Hope Darnold and Jones will be good to go, even if Darnold looked atrocious at times the last 2 games.
The House voted on their leadership today as well.
After Trump met with them prior to going to the White House he endorsed Johnson to retain the job.
Johnson was voted in and it is reported that it was unanimous. Hence is the power of DT.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mike-johnson-wins-republican-support-house-speaker-again-after-trump-endorsement
If this is true, good.
No time to play games.
Thank God they didn’t get back to one of those power games again. Johnson is a stud.
Trump to the establishment with his cabinet picks……😆😂🤣
One of the reasons I like Gaetz. Here he is grilling an Army General about them branding conservatives as ‘extremists’.
It is from Sep this year and the video is about 5m long.
Awsome.
Should have made him the SECDEF… grin.
LOL
mccarthy undergoes minor procedure, swelling of his knee during rehab…
we really can’t have nice things can we…
Nope, we can’t. How is the job search going??
That a guy, I knew you wouldn’t just sit around and collect unemployment…
Got the wordle in 3 today, pretty happy with that result
I’ve never been good at wordle….
Like a girdle-wearing turtle named Myrtle trying to hurdle an Ertyl…..
My brother competes with friends and family on that. He showed me when I visited him during the hurricane. I think his start word is yeast.
my wife does wordle everyday.
when she gets stuck she asks me for help, and i’m decent at figuring it out for her. i always say “i’m too good at this, that’s why i don’t play it” and she gets annoyed of course..
Another good one.
Excellent Trolling.
Would expect nothing less from DT.
Remember Tulsi… turnabout is fair play.
OMG. Trump nominates Matt Gaetz for Attorney General!
Trump is picking too many House members.
They going to lose control of the House.
He is getting them from solid red areas so replacements will be red.
But in the short term I worry as well.
I like Gaetz.
And he is a lawyer.
Just worry about how these appointments will hurt the House until they can hold special elections to get in replacements.
I am hopeful the Trump team has it figured out.
Do they hold special elections or is it like the senate and the governor just gets to appoint somebody?
In Fl. it’s a special election.
Replacement Senators are appointed by Governor until a special election is held.
SoCal just went thru that when Fienstien died.
House holds special elections.
Senate pick is to fill the remaining term.
I hope they have. If they haven’t, pretty dumb.
Now, this will be a tough sell to some of the Repub Senate.
‘this will be a tough sell to some of the Repub Senate’
Might be some grumbling but they will confirm the team that DT wants.
From your lips (key board) to God’s ear.
Gaetz is under a House ethics investigation – think it’s sex related – and also the guy that got Kevin McCarthy canned. He’s made enemies.
So, will be interesting and a test of DT’s power.
Yes, they have been investigating him for a few years now, so far a big nothing burger.
Gaetz didn’t believe McCarthy was doing the nations business well. McCarthy has done after him since, has yet to lay a glove on him.
Not sure that House Drama effects the Senate much.
We shall see.
For those of you on here who hunt, what’s your favorite thing to make or have made from a deer? Trying to plan out what to do with this doe this weekend and trying to think of something new to try. Planning on brats, pepper sticks and some Italian sausage. Got a bunch of breakfast sausage from the wife’s deer and summer sausage from some beef I got last winter.
You can’t make Italian sausage when the deer is from MT can you?
She had a leather jacket on and said “eeyyy” when I was getting ready to shoot her.
Also have 5 lbs set aside already for jerky. Probably have about 10 lbs to do something with.
Can’t go wrong with sausage.
My uncle knew a guy who had a recipe for deer than made it taste just like hamburger.
“Why don’t you just eat hamburger?” my uncle asked.
Yeah, we have that but would definitely eat more. I might do some breakfast sausage links, but thought I’d see if anybody had a good idea of something new to try.
I’m not into hunting and doing the whole meat prep thing, but do you do like a brisket or a loin? Season it up and marinate. Then grill it and smoke to finish.
Not sure that’s an option on deer meat.
Yeah. On a deer I usually just keep the backstraps for steaks and sometimes a roast or two from a hind. It’s deciding what to do with 30 lbs of other meat.
I personally like ground venison to make meatloaf. Have a real good recipe for it.
Sausage is a close second.
https://www.reddit.com/r/smoking/comments/gsu249/bacon_wrapped_cheddar_stuffed_venison_meatloaf/
That looks tasty.
Is.
I add mushrooms as well to the cheese but that is just me.
Do you put bbq in the meat mixture or just a glaze at the last step? I’m assuming glaze.
I put in on the meatloaf as the last step.
Any BBQ sauce works well for me.
My wife has been canning both deer and elk neck meat the last couple years. A little labor intensive but awesome to have on hand. Quick meaty tacos, burritos, I make ragu sometimes. 90 minutes at 14# of pressure at our elevation (5600′).
Nice. I need to get a pressure canner. I really only started to get into trying canning this year. I did 10 pints or so of salsa, half a dozen pasta sauce and about 40 jars of pickles. I just did water bath though while I get the hang of this and a pressure canner is expensive unless I can find one at a garage sale next summer.
Strong work.
I have done mostly ‘boiling water bath’ canned of peaches and apples.
The Teacher has an Instapot that will do pressure canning.
She talks about trying it but hasn’t yet.
Canned salsa and pasta sauce is the best.
Agreed. Yearly staples out of my dad’s garden.
Green beans and kraut too.
RFK says botulism is a myth.
(too soon?)
Elevation affects cooking?
Interesting.
I’ve never heard of that before.
Yeah, mainly the boiling temperature.
In baking cakes and pressure canning it does.
You shooting WT’s or mulies, or both? Mulies starting to run pretty good here.
2 whitey’s this year. I usually hunt muleys but lost my spot. I much prefer mule deer hunting but don’t have any good spots anymore. My wife got to go out on private land with a friend on the Yellowstone a couple weeks ago and got a nice buck.
I still have my general tag but I don’t know if I’m going to make it out anymore. Elk tag soup once again it seems unless I can get out on a shoulder hunt.
Not bad for her first deer.
WOW! 140ish?
I don’t know. I don’t do the scoring stuff. My buddy had shown up and had it gutted by the time I got there and she thought him and his wife were just being nice saying it was a nice deer.
Hearing more and more of “lost my spot”. We got locked out of many thousands of acres up in the flathead, it is in court, but they’re rich bastards and probably bleed us dry.
I lost access to about 30,000 acres last year because one rich guy bought the ranch I had access to and then he bought the hunting rights to the surrounding 4 ranches that were BMA.
sux
Pepper sticks
KOC on McCarthy’s second knee surgery…
He Dead
Hmmmm. My cynical, gut reaction is that this is not good
He had swelling on the knee after amping up the physical therapy. Timeline for return is still the same.
Some swelling during pt after a knee operation is.normal. Few months later creating enough swelling to cause a second operation is n ot the best. But, still plenty of. time to be ready for next year.
I heard the “operation” was just an injection of some kind.
Yea, it’s the plasma stuff to help healing. But that is usually done right at the time of the first operation. Just guessing, overly ambitious pt causing swelling and fluid build up. Maybe just draining and the injection. Still lots of time. but menicus are tricky and easily prone to reinjury. Slow and steady best.
Yep, but he’s a barely 20 year old who thinks he’s invincible and is watching the QB that is playing instead of him throw 5 Ints a game.
then KOC needs to have a good father/son. These things are very delicate, many of these operations fail, so he needs to go slow.
Yep.
I wonder if they have Plan B ready in case JJ never sees the field.
I’m available… retired… plenty of time on my hands.
Can you read a defense?
I actually can… but it takes me a minute or so… grin.
That’s alright, takes Sam that long too.
A minute or so is asking a lot from O line
Yeah, they wouldn’t be my biggest fans.
Daniel Jones could be had on a “Sam Darnold” type of deal. Giants have an out on his contract after this season
”He’s fine”
-Zim
What happens first:
Given that inauguration day is 01/20/2025, the 2024 election will be finalized first.
And that is weeks before the 2025 Superb Owl.
Are you sure, the inauguration will not get moved back, due to the fact that only 2% of Arizona is reported.
I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic here.
AZ has like 95% of votes counted.
But yeah, AZ is like a third world nation claiming election integrity.
99% sarcasm, 1% it could happen.
I mean, I do think there will be Dem governors in States that Trump won, who will try to change the electors.
There will be shenanigans.
I’d be shocked if they just let Trump become President without trying something.
We were talking some below about new Senate leadership.
Just watched the new leadership team’s first press conference.
Must say, and I fully realize first impressions can be misleading, this group is very under whelming.
If enthusiasm was fire, they couldn’t boil water. I hope like hell there’s a lot of heat somewhere there.
I love these days, traveling between Holiday and South Heart, maybe she a car every 5 miles.
‘maybe she a car every 5 miles’
Ahh ‘see a car’, took a minute.
My first impression of eastern MT back in the summer of ’91, driving from Great Falls through Lewistown and Jordan for a job interview in Glendive, was just like that, only I would say I saw a car every 15 miles. I had to ahem drop a #2 and was hoping there would be a gas station open or rest stop near Jordan, nope. I ended up stopping at the crest of a hill so I could see if traffic was coming from either direction and squatting in the ditch. Had nothing to fear as it was still another 25 miles before I encountered a car near Flowing Wells (which is where the rest stop is if only I could have held out). Bottom line don’t leave Lewistown heading east without stopping to do your business.
Really good advice for traveling in western ND, SD and Eastern MT…
I would add to make sure you have a relatively full tank of gas as well.
I was told by my ex’s family that anytime you travel in ND to need a full tank of gas, a candle in the glovebox and a bar of chocolate, especially during the winter.
We no longer travel with a candle….for you non cold weather folks, the purpose of a candle was to provide a little warmth while you were stranded in your car in a blizzard and to use it to melt snow for drinking water if you were stranded a long time….
We just decided it makes more sense not to drive in a blizzard.
I understood the purpose of the candle/chocolate.
My BIL described driving into the wind one winter and the engine temp on his car was dropping. Once he turned away from the wind it started back up.
The winter in ND is a whole other level from even the coldest days in the high deserts of SoCal, or NoCal or Colorado, or Korea, or Germany, or Washington State, or any other places I lived.
Amen, I can attest to that my years in Grand Forks. Great people, horrible winters.
Is she-ing a car a ND thing?
Coach Flo says that yes he would like a Head Coaching Job but he is not leaving the Vikings unless it is the right opportunity for him and his family.
No shock there, ‘right opportunity’ could mean anything. I doubt he gets an offer until his lawsuit against the NFL is settled.
Of course I might be wrong, have been at least once before as my ex can attest.
https://thevikingage.com/brian-flores-calms-fears-minnesota-vikings-fans-comments
I doubt he gets any consideration for a head coaching job in the short term.
2-3 years.
I think it depends what opens up this off-season. He will probably be offered a head coaching job, in my opinion. He might not take it. I suppose it really depends how far the Vikings go, too.
We are winning the OWL baby! ESPN gives us a 9 percent chance to make the SB, but it gives Green Bay a 10 percent chance so they are full of shit.
Well well well – good day.
The biggest Republican member of the swamp is gone – Cocaine Mitch is out!
Well he will be out in Jan. Thume will replace him and he has been pretty anti Trump.
Will he lead a mutiny? Bend to DTs rule? It will be interesting to watch.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/thune-wins-secret-ballot-become-new-senate-gop-leader-succeeding-mcconnell
At this point, if he fights Trump he’s a fool and will get thrown out.
He worked for Mich as his Minority Whip so he is tainted IMHO.
Again, we will see how it all works out.
If he is ‘tainted’, then the folks that voted him in are idiots.
South Dakota is deep MAGA country…He is not going to publicly oppose Trump on any issue of significance.
He doesn’t have to oppose. He can simply slow roll things and not hold votes.
I’m not convinced.
He will have his own agenda.
One thing politicians can do is count votes. when was the last time a republican candidate won the popular vote?
Anyone repub that stands in his way will get bulldozed.
Thune said the Mueller investigation in 2018 needed to move forward.
Thune said in 2023 that Trump is disqualified from being President.
His hate is forever.
He’s going to try and sabotage Trump at every turn.
So tell me, With that background, and Trump’s overwhelming victory, why would the Senate group select this guy as their leader?
Seems pretty dumb to me.
They’re all a bunch of sellouts
You are talking about Republicans.
They cant get out of their own way.
They are like the Vikings on steroids.
Where is Edge.
As one of the accused echo members here I’m going to say this.
Kuddos to Biden for inviting DT to the WH and at least so far seems like a gracias host.
See Edge.
I’m pretty shocked that he would want photos of himself shaking the hand of literal Hitler.
He actually looked pretty happy to me.
He’s smiling at the Dems who threw him out.
I’ve been trying to bite my tongue on this, but I still say they won’t allow Trump to take the oath of office. Something is going down soon. It’s been too cordial.
Oh, I’m with you on that. He needs to stay out of the public.
As to Biden, I also believe his graciousness is driven to a large extent because his legacy is at stake
Plus he is probably happy that DT beat Cackles so he can say she did worse than he would have. Take that Obumma, Pelosi, Clooney and the rest of the Cabal.
Yep. Stories are leaking that the letter that was released about him stepping down that he had nothing to do with it. He was then pissed so went out and immediately endorsed Kamala as a big F U.
Yet they still invested $1 billion in a three legged dog.
This would’ve been a better investment…..
’President Tripod’ has a nice ring to it…..
More qualified than Kamala too.
That’s a great album.
Probably their best…..
Dirt is also pretty great
Yeah.
Shaking hands and surrendering to Hitler will be a lasting legacy.
Who is more likely to assassinate Trump – an Iranian operative or an American operative??
An Iranian American…
Ha! Good call.
I think the current DC swamp structure is more of a threat than Iran is.
It is indeed and your CIA pick is right on.
This makes me worry about Five…has he been recruited for such a task? Would that explain his long absence?
So gracious of the President who ordered Trump’s home to be raided, and everyone’s belongings searched. We’re talking Federal Agents dressed in tactical gear. The President who called him Hitler, a Nazi, a Fascist, and an existential threat to democracy, and also labeled his supporters garbage.
Biden is scum.
You know it, I know it, and most here know it.
I was merely showing Edge that every once in a while us members of the echo chamber could toss a bone the other way.
Now, was I disingenuis – probably.
So Noem and Hegseth appointments are kind of head scratchers. But I don’t claim to know enough to know how DT and his team plan to make them work. Figureheads with very good assistants?
Either way they will do better than the ‘good germans’ we have in there now who blindly follow FJBs orders. I am willing to give them a chance and see how they do.
In any case it has been a great week and I am having a very happy Wednesday.
I’m happy to see a deviation from the norm. I really hope he drains the swamp.
The deficit needs to be addressed immediately. He didn’t do well in his last term because of Covid, so let’s hope he turns it around this time. We can’t continue to operate in the red, we need to be paying off debt.
I believe the biggest threat to our national security is our financial weakness & instability.
You need to convince about two thirds of The Republican members of congress of that. there’s a reason they combine farm subsidies with rent subsidies in the same appropriations bill.
I agree completely. The Republican party left me a long time ago, the establishment types had taken over. Hopefully that’s coming to an end.
I have supported the Republicans since I learned that it was formed to stop slavery, A. Lincoln was their first candidate for President.
The last decade made move to independent conservative, with DT maybe I can come back home.
Plus all of the resistance he met from the Swamp, RINOs and Democruds.
And the neocons and the ‘establishment’ republican party.
Just try to cut the defense budget (for good reason) – see what happens.
The Pentagon has never passed an audit in it’s History.
Lets see if DT, Hegseth, Musk and Ramaswamy can make a dent.
Eisenhower warned us of this very thing in his farewell speech
For sure. And he was a pretty good General and President.
And the Dems play the Repubs weakness like a violin. Put up a big entitlement bill and sprinkle in a little defense money, and Repubs can’t resist.
Yep, the corruption runs both directions
Reduce or eliminate deficit spending? Never going to happen.
Yep.
This falls into the “I’ll believe it when I see it” category.
Though I do think this might be the best shot in decades for someone to actually try it.
If you want to get rid of the swamp monsters, you can’t put a swamp monster in charge of the draining.
Noem or even a dead dog would be legandary compared to Mahorkis – worse head in our history.
‘dead dog would be legandary’
Well she does know where to get/make one. Just saying.
That’s a good point – forgot that. Gotta be careful with a women that knows how to use a gun.
Instead of a train station, they’re just going to threaten people that they’re going to tell Kristi they’re a rabid dog if they don’t play ball.
Hegseth is a 20-year vet with 2 bronze stars, a bachelors from Princeton and a masters from Harvard.
If you want to avoid a lobbyist-backed guy, he’s a good pick.
But he has really no time in the swamp….therefore unqualified.
This is who the dems are.
Completely. Out. Of. Touch.
The party of rich elites.
Just like Oprah claiming she did not get paid for supporting Cackles.
Her company got paid, she did not, yeah right.
Harpo spelled backwards is Oprah.
She has Marxs?
Her company is Harpo Productions.
And the Holocaust wasn’t about race.
She’s dumber than a bag of rocks.
She is business smart but has no common sense.
Because at heart she is a race hustler.
Speaking of Marijuana, the North Dakota measure failed so I can enjoy walks downtown and in the parks without having to smell that stuff (usually – of course there is some illegal use).
Public consumption was not going to be legal. Do you walk down the street and see guys chugging whiskey on the sidewalk?
Mainly just downtown. Not sure it’s always whiskey though or even alcohol from a liquor store, but it seems to get the job done.
Public consumption is illegal, would be the same for weed.
Yeah, I can tell you that isn’t the way it works. Illegal doesn’t mean enforced. Walk around Billings, especially the softball fields or downtown, and you will smell skunks everywhere.
Billings, the cops are probably busy investigating murders.
I guess I’ve never smelled it in Billings. I avoid crowds as a general rule, so that could be why I’ve never noticed.
Yeah. It’s not that bad really but the softball field bugs me because there are so many kids around. Downtown is a shit show in general. There are people, typically of a certain skin tone, passed out in the middle of the day on the side walks.
I’m not a fan of drugs/alcohol around kids. The arcade at the mall in Bismarck is basically a kid’s hang out, and they have a freaking bar.
Then again, a lot of the prescription stuff is worse than the illegal stuff. Kids are around that all the time.
Sounds like Billings has a skunk problem.
They should smoke some weed and brainstorm a solution……
Just sayin…pretty much everywhere I have been where it has been legalized you smell it in the public spaces.
Do you take your walks before or after you’ve had your evening snack of a handful of saltines and a nice glass of room-temperature water……
I’m guessing the walk tuckers you out and you’re barely able to keep your eyes open for the 5pm episode of ‘Murder She Wrote’……
Geezer
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Murder She Wrote was a vastly under-rated program….not quite in the same category as Matlock or Columbo – but it was very good.
Lol….. I actually agree.
I just wanted a long winded way to call you a Geezer….
I know….and no offense taken!
Don’t forget a little WTR.
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I do like how heads are exploding in DC.
Totally clueless about Hegseth and looks completely foolish.
And what makes Warren think she was qualified to be a Senator? Lying about your heritage to secure a teaching position at Harvard is hardly a qualification.
Warren is pissing on everything these days. She must have a good dose of Mexican’t in her heritage, as well.
Pocahontas doesn’t like it.
Therefore I do.
Does nobody here know how to use the spoiler tag? I won’t have to watch Oak Island this year, after reading the comments. Haha
Hit the little [+] sign in the reply box.
Fill in title of Spoiler.
Then put in whatever you wanted covered between the two boxes enclosed by [ ].
LOL….
You old man….
He wasn’t asking how to use it.
Still on my 1st cup of coffee.
‘If this is the biggest mistake I make today it will be a very good day.’
I am, too. I had a chiropractor appointment this morning.
Did they realign your chakra?
Is he better than Ingram?
What am I saying, if he can tie his own shoes, it is an upgrade….
Worth kicking the tires on I would think.
I’m guessing the contract prevented them from trading him, so they had to cut him. Could probably get him cheap.
If he has ‘offset language’ he could be very cheap.
A 350 pound tackling dummie filled with buck shot would do just as well.
An egg fart would be an upgrade over Ingram.
Guessing he is hurt or is about to be arrested.
It’s Chicago, I think everybody’s going to be arrested there at some point
And then let right out.
Sounds like he sucked, disgruntled and was nursing a back injury.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42367745/bears-waive-og-nate-davis-days-late-scratch-vs-patriots
If he’s healthy, I definitely take a look at him. Right guard is the most glaring weakness on the team. well, the last couple games it might be the quarterback.
Did he reaggravate an old injury?
You sure it’s a re-aggravation? Do you have a citation?
J Trauma. 2006 Feb;60(2):379-84.
The risk of reinjury in relation to time since first injury: a retrospective population-based study
Does it just cover re-injury or is aggravation included?
It’s an aggravating article as reinjury is reinvigorated yet aggravation is aggregated aggressively.
This will be a fun website to follow.
Oh wow, that site is going to be a trip. Can’t wait to look in on it.
Great idea. Will be interesting to see if the swamp can be embarrassed into action.
This is going to be soooo fun!
I will definitely be following this twitter page.
I have found out that a lot of the cost that goes into government contracts, as far as manufacturing items, is in the tolerances allowed. i had a friend that worked in a machine shop that had a government contract to build a simple part, but the tolerances were so tight that they threw away 90% of the parts they made. He said that there is no reason for the tight tolerance and they could produce the part for 5-10% of the cost.
Sounds about right. Somebody sitting behind a desk with no idea about the contract their writing or the equipment they want produced makes up tolerances. The EPA is similar in ways. Take water from a river, use it, put it back cleaner than when it came in, but in violation because going back in some irrelevant substrate is over an arbitrary limit set by a bureaucrat in Washington. The fact that the level of that substrate (pollutant in greeny world) is 4 times higher naturally in the river is no big deal.
There is definitely something to this, but military tolerances have always been high. Things are engineered to last, and remain in service for decades. Also, sometimes a piece is produced for the military, that is not produced for anyone else in the world. It fits into a specifically designed piece of equipment, and a manufacturer might have to retool an entire factory to produce a small amount of items.
I’ve had to deal with these kinds of acquisition issues in the past. That said, manufacturers will play up these circumstances to the max, to charge as much as they can.
I get the first part, but it feels like there’s a lot more of the second part. Didn’t Trump get the cost of a new Air Force One dropped by like 75% by calling out Boeing’s corruption?
This is small stuff. Take a look at the cost overruns of building new ships and aircraft. Breath taking!
The last company I worked for built a refinery. I saw most of the books for that project, it was an abysmal nightmare. They lost their ass big time. Overruns and delays cost them so much.
One of the refineries here tried to cut costs on a turnaround a few years ago by replacing the contractor company they had used for about 20 years. When the turnaround was about a month over schedule with no end in sight they finally fired them and brought the old contractor back in. I heard stories of Tyveks being stuck in pipes, pickups disappearing, and hard hats stuck in pipes from the first workers. Another major hinderance at the refineries is the unions. Mandatory breaks and stupid rules about air quality testing and such. They make a 1 hour job take all day.
Believe most contractors actually do the original bid low as they know there will be thousands of change orders and they just cream the government there. Ships stsrt at 2B and end up 5B.
Then there needs to be oversight and penalties for the overruns.
Yep, I saw it on construction jobs too. If the general contractor has a good superintendent, he will nuke that shit.
It wasn’t 75%, but he told Boeing he owned several planes and they didn’t cost Billions of dollars to produce. The cost estimates to replace the two Boeing aircraft were projected at around $5.4 Billion, and Trump got them down to around $3.9 Billion. Some have argued Trump used some adjusted figures that made this deal look bigger than it was, but fundamentally he saved the taxpayers around $1.5B.
1.5B is hardly pocket change, except maybe in DC.
But isn’ the real point, this goes on day in day out in the procurement process of just about every agency on most all items procured. This is but one that he stuck his nose into.
The Federal Government acquisition system is overly convoluted in my opinion. It builds in exorbitant costs somewhat foundationally. The rules are meant to ensure no “business” goes to a relative, etc, so there is no conflict of interest in awarding millions of dollars to any particular vendor. Also, requirements to only make some awards to minority owned businesses, women owned businesses, Native American owned businesses, etc, can impede good fiscal practices.
Exactly and well said. Making a dent in that process will be a gigantic undertaking.
That seems probable.
There are thousands of items like this. The great military establishment – trough.
I would really like to see the AF and Army depot procedures updated. Every aircraft we got back from depot we had to go over with fine tooth comb. I worked at Army depot wow what a racket, really could use a big overhaul. Navy is just as bad but I don’t have first hand knowledge of that. Military owns the aircraft but has to bid against itself to work on them
The system will take a lot of fixing.
We will see how much, if anything, they can do it 4 years.
Used to like the Sonny and Cher song – The Beat Goes On.
And now, the ‘vote counting goes on.’
Did Arizona count 10 more votes yesterday?
PA is not exactly working at warp speed either.
PA has counted 99.8% of the vote.
Casey is just holding everything up in order to stuff the ballot box.
Is Trump going to make Bongino the Secret Service Director? Rumors have been going around for months and seem to have picked up steam in the last day.
It’s Wednesday.
Time for a midweek dance….