Minnesota Vikings Discussion-SkolAsylum: 02 December 2024

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The Minnesota Vikings are now 10-2. Back in August, if someone would’ve told us that the Vikings would be 10-2 after week 13, we’d have all been ecstatic, and many of us would’ve been in shock. I remind myself of this when I find myself being dismayed with a win.

Vikings vs. Cardinals

The Vikings had to come from behind, but they did just that, and pulled off the comeback victory over the Cardinals yesterday. Final score was 23-22. The Vikings did not have a lead in the game until there was 1:13 remaining in the game. That’s when Aaron Jones caught the go-ahead TD.

The Vikings offense started off slowly. Aaron Jones fumbled on the first drive, then fumbled again (should’ve been an incomplete pass). Sam Darnold looked lost for much of the game, and the Cardinals defense harassed him the entire day. The defense allowed the Cardinals to move the ball, but they did a good job of mitigating damage, and they came up with some big stops to force field goal attempts instead of allowing touchdowns, which kept this game within reach. The defense also came up HUGE after the Vikings finally took the lead, and a Shaquille Griffin interception on 4th and 10 sealed the win for the Vikings.

This throw was a thing of beauty
Summary

In the end, the Vikings beat a division leader for their fifth straight victory. They are now 10-2 and only a game behind the Lions for the top spot in the NFC North (and the top spot in the NFC). This has been a fun year, the Vikings keep finding ways to win games, and KOC continues to grow as a play caller and as a head coach. The Vikings have a ton of playmakers, and an emerging defense that looks to be on the brink of greatness. It seems like the team, and the organization as a whole, are trending in the right direction. It really seems like they’re building a team that can be a consistent competitor. For now, let’s enjoy the season and see how far they can roll with Sam Darnold. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!!

The Rest of the NFL

Wow, the NFC West might be the most mediocre division in recent memory. If teams could still go .500 without a tie, it would be reasonable to expect all four teams to finish .500 this year. The NFC South is not even mediocre, all four teams are poor to meh. The two division winners from the South & West will probably be the two worst teams in the NFC playoffs. The North will provide two wild card teams, and the Washington Football Players will be the other wild card team.

Vikings News

Over at Vikings.com, stats and figures from yesterday’s game, along with full highlights from the game, and there’s lots more to sift through in the media vault.

NFL News

All of your NFL week 13 scores and highlights, courtesy of CBS Sports.

NFL.com looks at what we learned from week 13 NFL action.

Media Selection

Our post-win tradition, STRIKE UP THE BAND!!!!!

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SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 5:47 pm

Not only is McCaffrey lost for the season but his back up has a high ankle sprain and will miss ‘at least 4 games or more’.
I suspect the 49ers are toast for the season.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/christian-mccaffreys-backup-lands-ir-49ers-lose-2-running-backs-rollercoaster-season

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 5:34 pm

300 comments on a regular weekday, that hasn’t happened in awhile.
Regular meaning no draft or other special event going on.

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 5:38 pm

Kirk is coming to town, that may be special

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  PA Viking Fan
2 December 2024 5:56 pm

It might be for some people, those with KDS and his supporters.
Don’t think that explains 300+ comments though as multiple topic were discussed.

KFEY93
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
3 December 2024 9:19 am

Kirk Defenses Syndrome falls in line with is supporters. There’s only sane and those with Kirk Defense Syndrome

bowbunch
Admin
2 December 2024 4:49 pm

Did you guys know with a little help, the Vikings can officially clinch a playoff spot this weekend?

VikingPhilip
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:58 pm

Awesome.

bowbunch
Admin
2 December 2024 4:32 pm

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 5:16 pm

I love this.
Eff him, and the Broncos coach, and anyone else that does this.

bowbunch
Admin
2 December 2024 4:28 pm

Good news for the good guys.

KFEY93
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:31 pm

Hope Will the 3rd leg Thrill is feeling like himself. I think he will be a top 3-5 kicker in the league when healthy. But also, good on JPR for filling in, Iv been more than pleased with his kicking so far. The one extra missed point in Nashville was a nothing burger, the missed FG yesterday could have been big but ultimately wasn’t and he single handedly won the Jags game.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 4:34 pm

We get Will the Thrill and Kirill the Thrill? Doesn’t even seem fair.

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 4:49 pm

So do we keep Romo through the season somehow, then be able to trade him? He has proven he belongs in the NFL

KFEY93
Reply to  PA Viking Fan
2 December 2024 4:50 pm

Do you dare take up a roster spot with another kicker? If he goes practice squad someone else will surely grab him after they’ve seen how he kicks.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  PA Viking Fan
2 December 2024 4:51 pm

I don’t know how you can. The roster spots are going to be too important for the playoffs. If they can, great. I also don’t know about his contract but would guess it’s only for the year which means at best you’re going to get a 6th or 7th value in the comp pick equation and that’s probably not worth an extra o-lineman on the roster. One of the crappy deals where you gotta tell the guy, “you did great, we love you but we just can’t keep ya.”

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 5:08 pm

All good points. The only way I see it is you put him on the practice squad. Then, if he is poached, the other team has to move him to their 53 man roaster for 3 weeks. Could they IR him, maybe get Ingram to step on his kicking foot

VikingPhilip
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:59 pm

Isn’t it kind of cold out to have the windows open?

KFEY93
2 December 2024 4:27 pm

What the folks at Falcoholic think and why there’s no need to doom this week for the Vikes. Their fans are waking up to what we endured for half a decade.

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bowbunch
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Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 4:29 pm

“May God help us all.”
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KFEY93
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:32 pm

Yeah that got a good chuckle out of me me too.

bowbunch
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Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 4:35 pm

At least Kirk is good at improvising and moving in the pocket when his pre-snap read is wrong.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 5:18 pm

bowbunch
Admin
2 December 2024 4:17 pm

bowbunch
Admin
2 December 2024 4:10 pm

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:12 pm

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 4:13 pm

I thought there might be a couple people here that liked this one.

freezeyface
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:13 pm

i don’t think there is a single vikings fan that would take Kirk over Sam Darnold right now.

Perhaps before the season started.

but at this very point, there isn’t a single mentally stable vikings fan (oxymoron right there) that would ever take kirk over darnold

KFEY93
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 4:29 pm

There’s two or three in here right now actually…

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 4:31 pm

Well, he said “mentally stable”
(I’m kidding guys, I love you all but, well, .500 king is showing to be .500 king. I was told a couple of months ago that Kirk made the Falcons a real threat for the SB.)

KFEY93
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:51 pm

I was also told there will be tears in beers come 12/8.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 4:54 pm

The Vikings being the Vikings, they could very well lose the game, but one of the two teams going into that game is a real playoff team and not just fighting for a .500 division win (like I predicted and was rebuked).

KFEY93
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 5:05 pm

Agreed. Some time shit hits the fan but I have no fears or feelings of impending doom. This team is winning the right way and in a sustainable repeatable manner. Unlike the past 6 seasons. Theres data to back up the eye test instead of dumb luck.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:17 pm

What a truly breath taking comment. Sam has played about 10 times better than. he has ever played in his life and Cousins is going through a strech of the worst football of his career, and someone suggest I’d take Sam over Kirk at this point.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:19 pm

Figured that they needed to move on from KC due to $$.
That 2024 would be a rebuild year while the absorbed the cap hit and JJ got the rookie worked out of him.
Could we strike gold in 2024? Sure, likely? No.
Never did I expect that we would strike it with Sam.
Happy to be wrong.

bowbunch
Admin
2 December 2024 3:41 pm

freezeyface
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 3:43 pm

imagine how good this team could be RIGHT NOW if he could actually draft well!

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 3:50 pm

I’m still holding out hope. The drafts have seemed to improve every year as he gets the right people around him and gets his feet wet. The problem next year is the lack of draft capital but they can make up for it with cap space and he’s been better at free agent and trade acquisitions anyway.

freezeyface
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 3:52 pm

I’d be curious if Flores was clamoring for Turner or if Kwesi just had a hardon for him and went after him

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 4:03 pm

I would be surprised if Flores didn’t want him. I think Greenard and Van Ginkle have just played too good to put a rookie on the field over them and Turner is still learning the defense. When he’s been out there he’s flashed. I think he’ll be good and the Vikings will bring back one of Van Ginkle and Greenard and Turner will be starting next year.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:04 pm

When they signed those two, there is no way they could have thought they had a chance to get Turner as well considering he was a projected top 7 pick and they were obviously going after JJ.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:07 pm

Well thought,
And once they were in position to get him they figured he was worth it, maybe not for this year (given Van Ginkel and Greenard) but for many years in the future.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 4:09 pm

Yep and you get the opportunity to really train the kid. KOC has stated multiple times how big he is on proper QB development and how it is lacking in the NFL. Why wouldn’t you think he feels the same about other players?

freezeyface
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:06 pm

For the amount of money, i think it will be Van Ginkle, Greenard will have a 22mill cap hit next year vs Van Ginkles 12.4

bowbunch
Admin
2 December 2024 3:23 pm

Seems to have an overthinking problem at times, but when he let’s it rip and just plays he has some pretty impressive arm talent (but I still can’t wait for McCarthyism to take over).

MT Viking
2 December 2024 1:52 pm

Kirk hasn’t thrown a TD in three games, and has racked up an impressive number of INTs and fumbles.

Am I the only one that knows, just KNOWS, that the Vikings will flip that script on Sunday?

KFEY93
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 1:53 pm

Booo trash take. Vikes make Kwerk look like who he is, a spaz. Harrison Smith gets a sack and a pick. Book it. Change that attitude MT

MT Viking
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 1:57 pm

Yeah just like you shamed me for thinking the Cards had a chance against us…400+ yards offense MT….Cards only put up 6 against Seachickens MT…you ain’t fooling me, you were shitting your pants just like me in the second half.

We all know Kirko Chainz periodically makes an appearance…or Penix will come in and ball out…or Darnold throws a pick at the worst possible time…or Jones coughs up a fumble.

Vikings inability to step on the throat of their lesser opponents concerns me. Atlanta is going to show up for this game.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 2:09 pm

Not going to happen. Atlanta is a weak team and after watching clips of Cousins throws yesterday, he has to be injured. He has his short comings but throwing the ball is not one of them. Right now, for whatever reason, he simply can’t throw well.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 2:22 pm

I don’t think old man time has let that achilles heal up properly. He doesn’t seem to have the same velocity from what little I’ve seen.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 2:30 pm

Probably, and a shoulder injury three weeks ago against Saints. Regardless, his out throws now look like Jimmy G rainbows.

KFEY93
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 2:17 pm

400 yards of offense and only 22 pts scored. And one of the TDs was only possible because of a BS PI call. All I care about is points scored, could care less about yards. Seahawks are no push over either, should have beaten Detroit. Context. And yes I was, it was a close came and we needed a TD to win, any fan would. And stop calling him that, his name is Kirk Ball and Chain, and nothing else. Cringy ass name. All those things happened and the Vikes still over come it, which is something last teams did not do. This isnt 2022 with a horse shoe up our ass, we are winning they way the good teams do. And you must have forgotten the first 5 weeks of the season I guess. Vikes were in control in every one of those games. Turn overs be damned.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 3:33 pm

You just haven’t had your heart ripped out as many times as MT. Let him be nervous. He’s not the only nervous one.

DE Viking
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 1:54 pm

I’m sure he will be better.
But he looks bad.

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 1:55 pm

i mean it’s more than likely, our pass defense is BRUTAL and that’s not me being negative. It just…IS.

Wrenage
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 2:05 pm

I don’t think Kirk has it in him at this stage. He is slow of mind and foot. Stadium will be loud, and he is going to have to process fast.

Plus, we really only have to cover his check down receiver…

KFEY93
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 2:18 pm

TE. Stop Bijan and cover TE. Hit him hard and early, and GG ez.

MT Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 2:43 pm

Julie has incentivized him by saying that if he plays well they can splurge and buy juicy lucys for the fam at the 5-8 club after the game. He’ll be very motivated.

Wrenage
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 2:52 pm

Admittedly, that is a variable that must be accounted for…

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 3:15 pm

She promised him grilling lessons.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 3:15 pm

And a Kohl’s gift card.

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 4:14 pm

Also Pizza Ranch

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
2 December 2024 4:14 pm

Do they have Pizza Ranch in the ATL?

HUNViking
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 3:01 pm

No we won’t.

#nojinx

VikingPhilip
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 3:32 pm

We have a lengthy history of doing such things.

MT Viking
2 December 2024 1:45 pm

@On 4th and 7 I knew we were good, I didn’t do anything silly like get on my knees with eyes fixated on the screen@

The announcer stating that the Cards should have gone for it on 4th down rather than kick the FG late was preternatural. Guy has PMS or ESP or something.

Murray staying in bounds was a thing of beauty. Followed by intentional grounding. Man we got lucky in this game. Come playoffs we won’t be that lucky…can we have more of the playcalling we had in the 4th quarter and less of the playcalling the first three quarters?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 1:51 pm

Less shooting of our own feet would be nice as well.

JacksonVike
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 2:08 pm

I would like to see us play a whole game like it is the 4th quarter and we are down by 10.

DE Viking
2 December 2024 1:17 pm

Busy day.
I changed my son’s car battery.
It took all of 20 minutes, and I’m not that mechanically inclined.

Not sure what’s wrong with Freezey.

Kirko week all week.
Hopefully he continues to be crappy.

JacksonVike
2 December 2024 1:07 pm

I haven’t heard anything on Gilmore and Greenard leaving the game yesterday. Greenard was towards the last drive where we stopped the Cards. I couldn’t tell if he was shaking his head due to pain or if he just got his bell rung.

I thought Moreau did a good job of filling in for Gilmore at the end. He seemed to be right on top of the receiver and not a step and a half behind him.

MT Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 1:11 pm

I think Greenard came back in after the Vikings called the TO. I think he was gassed.

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 1:12 pm

yeah, i think greenard was just sucking wind. He was playing REALLY hard. and he had chased down Murray and then just was done.

freezeyface
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 1:13 pm

in fact, the td that was caught on him, he actually had his hand on the ball and almost knocked it out of his hands. can’t fault a great catch

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 1:34 pm

KOC said in his postgame presser that Gilmore ‘got a left hammy’ and was thinking of coming back in but didn’t so he would not get a longer term injury. He also mention that Pat Jones had a knee issue but was able to return to the game.
Those were the only two he mentioned in his ‘Injury Update’ that he started his presser with.

JRobert
JRobert
2 December 2024 1:00 pm

A thought/question on the NFC playoff picture.
Pretty confident us, Lions, Packers, and Eagles will be four top dogs. Not sure who will win division and who’s wild cards.
But suppose we make it to NFC Championship Game. Which team would you least like to face?

freezeyface
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 1:05 pm

Packers, because i hate when they get THAT close to the bowl

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 1:10 pm

Me too – Packers – because they would be the toughest for us to beat (I believe).

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 1:11 pm

Eagles. I would hate to face them. Great RB, mobile QB (More mobile than the other two) and a very solid defense.

We did that in 2017. I do not want a repeat.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 1:41 pm

Fair points, but that would have been my number three. If for no other reason, the Eagles HC makes the other two look like Lombardi.

Wrenage
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 1:44 pm

I wouldn’t want to play the Eagles. They will run Barkley down our throats and then Tush Push whenever close on third down, and again on fourth down if necessary, and we won’t be able to do anything about it.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 1:52 pm

I don’t know. Hurts is the poorest passer of the three. Think Flo will pack box and make Hurts throw to beat us.
On offense, KOC and our receivers have had great success against Fagio’s two deep zone.
That said, we are probably the least physical of the four teams.

Wrenage
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 2:00 pm

The other wrinkle is homefield advantage, so I am curious how that shakes out.

If we get the games at home, that makes a solid difference.

MT Viking
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 1:50 pm

Assuming we are away I think both the Lions and Eagles will curb stomp us. For that matter I don’t like our chances if we are away at Lambeau in January.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 2:27 pm

No one will curb stomp us.

HUNViking
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 3:46 pm

HUNViking
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 3:44 pm

Eagles. Because I’m still traumatized from that one loss in that one game. That was OUR year, dammit…

Also, FTP and FT* (another Vikings induced trauma)

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  HUNViking
2 December 2024 4:19 pm

Eagles HC will screw it up.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:56 am

AT did the Gritty after his late TD tied the game Sunday.
He ended up with 99 yards, the same as Jets.
Carolina lost in OT though.

https://thevikingage.com/minnesota-vikings-adam-thielen-honors-justin-jefferson-carolina-panthers-touchdown

NoDakRube
2 December 2024 11:32 am

I for sure over did the whiskey during the game….I knew we won, but the rest was a bit fuzzy…I had to go back and watch highlights to refresh my memory…definitely cutting back next time.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:48 am

I like to drink some, but I don’t like it when I get drunk. I am disappointed in myself for overdoing it.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 12:05 pm

Probably a good idea….I do have an off switch, I just utilized it too late.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 1:13 pm

My broken off switch is food related. I need to not have sugary foods in my house, or they get eaten.
Used to weigh 50 pounds more than I do today. Quitting Sugary foods and high carb processed foods was harder for me than Nicotine (use to chew, long ago) or booze (I quit for 10 years, while trying to be a better parent. All the good beers missed…..)

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:48 am

That would have been a fun game to be at. Rudolph TD and a Smith Pick 6. I watched that on at home with my Dad.

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 12:58 pm

Love it. Way to live it up.

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 1:41 pm

I wouldn’t think any weeds would be growing in the middle of winter.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 1:45 pm

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 2:04 pm

I’ve noticed there is an inverse correlation between the most loyal patrons of Glendive’s many dispensaries and the quality of their ride. The parking lots look like junkyards.

I’m so judgy.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
2 December 2024 4:17 pm

I would argue with you, but I drive a Kia…..

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:50 am

When we went to the Seahawks Vikings 4 below playoff game I remember that as well…if you bought a beer you had to drink it quickly or it would freeze. It was too cold for drinking.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 11:56 am

Keep it inside your coat.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 10:54 am
bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 10:56 am

And it’s a blanket pardon for any and all crimes he may or may not have committed from 2014-2024. He’s covering for himself and hiding their illegal deals in Ukraine and God only knows where else.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 10:57 am

Yup.
The Biden Crime Family is covering all the bases.
And their asses of course.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:00 am

I’m guessing there will be more pre-emptive pardons coming for himself and his brother.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 10:59 am

Possibly. What’s he going to be called to testify about though? Nobody is going to go after Joe with this and his dementia and why would anybody go after Hunter if they know they can’t charge him with anything?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 11:00 am

What about FJBs brother and other family members that got paid?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:00 am

It sure does. If he is called to testify against Uncle or Big Joe, he cannot plead fifth as he’s immune. The Biden crime family is still hanging out.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 11:03 am

Joe’s still in office. There’s time, don’t worry.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 11:04 am

Will he pardon himself? $10 million dollars went somewhere.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 11:18 am

He doesn’t have to. He won’t be charged with anything. Remember the classified documents case against Biden? The special prosecutor (Robert Hur) declined to prosecute because “Biden’s age and presentation would make it more difficult to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that the 81-year-old was guilty of willfully committing a crime.”

The problem with that position though is this. When it comes to the mishandling of classified information “unwillful” disclosure is not a defense. It doesn’t matter if one willfully, or unwillfully divulges State secrets, or fails to protect them. If you’ve ever had a security clearance, that fact is drummed into your head relentlessly, and when you sign for your clearance, that verbiage is very prominent in the statement you sign.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
2 December 2024 11:21 am

That only applies to the plebes and those that aren’t part of the deep state.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 11:25 am

Absolutely true.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
2 December 2024 11:22 am

I simply think he doesn’t have to as Trump – who is a bigger and better man than Biden – will tell his Attorney General to not pursue it.

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 1:20 pm

He still has 29 more days to commit more crimes.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 10:59 am

Biden  claims that he was going through with the pardon after he continued to watch his son being “selectively, and unfairly, prosecuted.”

“I believe in the justice system, but as I have wrestled with this, I also believe raw politics has infected this process and it led to a miscarriage of justice — and once I made this decision this weekend, there was no sense in delaying it further. I hope Americans will understand why a father and a President would come to this decision,” Biden said.

Raw politics???? You mean like when you raided Trump’s home with agents dressed in tactical gear to locate the evidence he had against your son? Yeah… Americans can plainly see where raw politics figured in this Joe.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
2 December 2024 11:02 am

Trump was impeached for wanting to investigate the crimes that Joe just pardoned his son for.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 11:05 am

This is true.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
2 December 2024 11:03 am

Most everyone can understand a Father pardoning his only son. And we all knew he would do so. But lying about it through out the entire political season was pure trash.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 11:09 am

He had to cover his son because of all the money he got as ‘the big guy’. I don’t give him any grace because he was just a ‘dad protecting his son’.

He never claimed that Hunter didn’t do the crime just that being charged for them was political.
He actually gave him the same immunity that they failed plea bargain would have.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:18 am

I don’t know – I would pardon my son, and there is no doubt the entire Biden family was in the trough.
But for Biden to use the “no one is above the law” during the entire campaign season to justify his DOJ going after Trump was complete lying BS.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 11:20 am

And then if your argument is that the gun charge was over the top, then how about a specific pardon instead of a blanket pardon for all known and unknown crimes over 10 years?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 11:23 am

FJB knows that Hunter pulled some crap that hasn’t come out yet.
Making sure everything was covered.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:28 am

Damn right. Hunter was merely the ‘front man’ for the family scamming Ukraine/China out of millions of dollars. The Biden Family had more foreign bank accounts to ‘wash’ money thru than Enron.

Northwoods
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:10 am

Soooooooooo…..once Trump takes office his first order of business should be pardoning himself.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Northwoods
2 December 2024 11:22 am

He has already promised all the Jan 6ers who didn’t commit any actual crimes.
His pen is going to be busy.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:56 am

What DOJ did to these people is criminal. Bondi should fire or detail to Alaska any DOJ lawyer who had anything to do with this.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 12:03 pm

If they can’t fire them due to ‘protections’ sending them to ‘bum-f*ck Egypt’ is the next best thing.
Hopefully they will refuse the transfer and quit.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:17 am

If Biden gets impeached, would it make the pardon null and void?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 11:24 am

No.
No limits on the power of the President to grant pardons.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 2:49 pm

I was just thinking that it is kind of funny how this came out the same weekend that Kash was nominated to head the FBI. Things that make you wonder…..

No longer New Vikings Fan
2 December 2024 10:53 am

The Vikings held it together, and got rolling in the fourth quarter to get it done, and win the game yesterday. Good stuff!!! I still think this team can do some damage in the playoffs. SKOL!

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
2 December 2024 10:58 am

this team can do some damage in the playoffs’

If they could stop shooting themselves in the foot they could.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:46 am

True.
I assumed you meant to other teams.
I should have known better.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:46 am

Yep. They’ll either damage other teams seasons or the mental health of Vikings fans.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 2:25 pm

That is a likely scenario.

HUNViking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 4:48 pm

Ecxellent point.

KFEY93
2 December 2024 10:44 am

4 More Picks for the Deer in a football Jersey. Give him another $60 mill Atlanta!

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:49 am

😉 Not as our QB after 2 season, other than that could not care less. I just feel vindicated and love being proven right so im gonna rub it in a bit 🙂

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 11:52 am

Wrenage
Reply to  KFEY93
2 December 2024 12:01 pm

There are certain rules to live by in life…

Never get less than 12 hours of sleep
Never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city
Never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body
Never pay a .500 QB on the north side of 30 with an achilles injury big money

Stick to that and everything else is cream cheese…

NoDakRube
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 12:08 pm

I like those..wise words indeed!

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:10 pm

And don’t piss on Superman’s cape.
And the minute you start thinking you’ve got it figured out, start over.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 12:24 pm

Especially in Golf! Hey I played at a beautiful Arizona Course last Wednesday…probably the nicest course I have ever played, and at 200 dollars a person it should be nice. (our host covered half of it for us). Shot an 88 on a slope 124.

Absolutely couldn’t believe I played that well. I used rental clubs and tried the regular flex instead of the stiff flex that I usually play. I think my swing speed has decreased enough that its time to go to regular.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:27 pm

Golf for sure. What a humbling sport. Three great holes and then you hit a shot that looks like a 120 capper hit it.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 1:31 pm

You forgot:

Never eat canned peas in the dark with a hunting knife….

JRobert
JRobert
2 December 2024 9:09 am

This is a strange season in. the NFC. The mighty Cowboys and Niners have fallen. The Vikings have as good a chance as anyone of going to SB.
But, there’s strange data points all over the place. We are 9 -2 and yet have beaten two teams with a winning record – and I think the Texans were over rated and the Packers were playing with a rusty QB.
And, folks really like the Lions and Eagles, yet both were beaten at home by the lowly Bucs and Falcons (trash division teams).
Come playoff time, and we’re playing well (and healthy) , see no reason we can’t do it.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 9:16 am

I am hoping for a Vikings/Bills superbowl, so at lest 1 cursed franchise can finally win one.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 9:18 am

But the other……?

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 9:20 am

Fully cursed.
Of course I would expect the Vikings to lose.

manly-purple
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 9:20 am

That would be a dream for the NFL (but obviously their biggest dream is Lions-Bills).

bowbunch
Admin
2 December 2024 9:07 am

Officially nominated to run the FBI.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 9:16 am

Does anyone in this country still believe the FBI is the world’s greatest law enforcement agency? Yet, hear Repubs and Dems say this all the time. BS

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 10:07 am

I think the cops are good.
The leaderships is corrupt and bias.
If the FBI showed up at my door I wouldn’t talk to them without a warrant.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 10:11 am

Think even the rank and file have been corrupted. And too many DEI hires and junior leaders.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 10:38 am

Could well be.
I still think that there are a lot of good to decent cops there.
Watching the whistle blowers testify to congress and hearing about what they went thru makes me want to tear down the HQs brick by brick.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:08 am

In my business life, did some ‘business’ with the FBI. The scenes from the first Die Hard movie about the FBI are not too far off the mark.
Still, there are some good agents.

Wrenage
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 2:54 pm

Those were great movie characters…

“What do you figure for breakage?”

“Figure we take out the terrorists, lose twenty, twenty-five percent of the hostages. Tops.”

“I can live with that…”

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 4:09 pm

In Hostage Operations it is a given that being a Hostage Sucks because many, if not all, will be lost.

manly-purple
2 December 2024 8:09 am

Alright, give me the details on going to a game. We’ll be going to our first Vikings game this next Sunday.

How early can we get there? How long can we stay? (We’re going to max our experience.)

Where’s the best place to park? (cost, ease to the stadium and driving out)

What should we make sure not to miss out on?

What’s the best (and most cost-effective) food? Can I bring snacks in (I doubt it)?

JacksonVike
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 8:18 am

I would suggest reserving a parking spot in one of the parking ramps, but don’t count on it being available. Still show up early to make sure you get a spot. I reserved a spot a couple years ago and thought since it was reserved, I could get there 30 minutes early, it was right across the street, and have plenty of time to get to the game. I pulled up to the ramp and they told me it was full. I said I had reservations, they said to contact the company I got the reservations from. I spent the next 20 minutes finding a parking spot and we got to our seats just as we were kicking off.

You cannot bring any food or drink into the stadium, and you will want to check what size of bag/purse you can bring in. They do have places outside the stadium where you can check in a bag that is too large, but it does cost money.

Hopefully Kirko doesn’t have one of those games where you sit there and wonder why he can’t do this all of the time. Enjoy the game, I went to the game where the Cowpies gave us a shellacking.

Wrenage
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 8:23 am

I want to see about five sacks on Kirk Sunday. He has all of the pocket mobility of a WWI tank at this stage. He better get the ball out fast.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 8:37 am

Hopefully the defense has some pent up energy after not getting to Kyler much yesterday.

manly-purple
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 8:37 am

Getting to Kirk will be much different than getting to Kyler.

They spied Kyler almost all game.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 8:41 am

For sure. Is Pace out for an extended period or was it a one game thing?

Mjolnir
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 8:48 am

IR – at least 4 (now 3)

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Mjolnir
2 December 2024 8:50 am

I thought I remembered hearing that but couldn’t remember for sure. Get him back in time for the playoffs hopefully, if not the end of the season.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 9:11 am

I would like to see Kirko play so poorly that Penix plays, but not until late when the game is out of reach.

Otherwise, Penix will throw 5 TD’s and his legend will begin.

manly-purple
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 9:06 am

That’s weird that you reserved and it didn’t get reserved.

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JacksonVike
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 9:10 am

This was what was going on in my mind as I was trying to find another parking ramp. It also took 6 months to get reimbursed. If you’re planning on being there early you can park in a ramp a few blocks away and not worry about making a reservation.

manly-purple
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 9:13 am

Yep, that’s the plan. I want to get there early to ensure we can go in when the gates open up.

What does parking run down there on game days?

JacksonVike
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 9:15 am

We parked about 6 blocks away and I believe it cost $15-20

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 9:15 am

Depends on the ramp. We parked a few blocks away and I remember it being pretty cheap. If you go online, you can see what the price is at all the different ramps and weigh the cost vs the walk.

manly-purple
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 9:19 am

Me considering how far away to park and checking the weather for Sunday:

KFEY93
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 10:43 am

Kirk had is one good month a year. And its long gone. He’s had two games against Bucs terrible pass defense to pad his stats. He’s straight ass homie.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 8:55 am

In the past I went to a bunch of games, but it has been a really long time since I’ve been there. The last time I went, 2 of my kids took me as a birthday present. We went to the Vikings Hall of Fame and then went out to eat before the game (it was a night game). For food, that was my usual plan was to eat before I got there because I’m tight and didn’t want to spend a ton of money on a hotdog that I could buy at Kwik Trip for a fraction of the price that they charge at the stadium. Also, I don’t drink alcohol, so that saved me a ton. And since I live 2 hours from the stadium, I would just wait until I got to Hudson before I would stop to get something to eat on the way home. However you want to do it, you will still be creating memories. Hopefully good ones with a Viking win.

manly-purple
Reply to  VikingPhilip
2 December 2024 9:05 am

Yeah, I’m thinking that we’ll try to fill our stomachs to the max before we get there. I do drink, but I won’t when I’m there. I hate paying that much for a beer, and I want to take in the full experience.

I think parking is my biggest question mark right now.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 10:12 am

You’ll find a spot as long as you’re a couple hours early. I think they start letting people in the stadium around 10:30 for a noon game. Make sure you are in your seat for the fake snowfall before the team comes out of the tunnel, that’s pretty cool.

manly-purple
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
2 December 2024 11:36 am

Ahh cool. Good to know. Thanks!

manly-purple
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 9:08 am

I hope to stay as long as we can. Does that help with the leaving part?

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 9:11 am

Did for us the one time I’ve been to this stadium. My wife got a picture with one of the players too. You can see the players come out to their vehicles. We saw Thielen, Jets, Zim and a bunch of other guys. Of course most of them just ignore you, and it was the loss to the Rams so they weren’t in a good mood, but my wife was pretty pumped. I couldn’t tell you where that was. We came out the wrong door and were walking around the stadium and just happened to start seeing players.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 9:09 am

Ok, I have not been to a game since Kirko played like shit in 2018 vs Chicago.

That said, there are places to eat and drink prior to the game that will save you a lot of money.
I would plan on getting near the stadium around 9 am, park, and decide where you want to eat. The plaza is just as overpriced as being inside the stadium, so I usually hit up a brewery. There are several that had decent food back then.

Day Block Brewing has a really good pregame deal that starts at 8 am. Buffet with really decent pizza, and some breakfast foods, bloody mary’s and beer.
Probably overpriced now, but it was around $30 and included tap beer and food and I really got my money’s worth. Drank enough to not even want a $14 beer in the stadium.

Hells Kitchen would be fun also, I have never been there, but I hear good things about the pregame food.
Hen house
Crooked pint (probably the most cost effective, and they have decent game day specials)
Manny’s

So many decent options. But everything is going to cost more on gameday.

I would eat before hand, and have peanuts or popcorn at the stadium.

NoDakRube
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 10:09 am

I go to a couple of games every year. We generally park in the Capella Towers building and then walk to the game, It is about a 15 minute walk. The Capella Towers is an office building with parking in the basement that they open up for game days. The car is always warm when we get back to it. Getting out is pretty easy…you have to take a right on 7th out of the parking garage and you will meet up with the interstates fairly quickly.

Gates open at 10:30. We have been there enough now that we don’t get there too early. I would recommend you for sure go to the Vikings ship outside…its kind of cool….has the history of the vikings on plaques as you make your way through it.

Food is expensive, we usually eat at Hells kitchen at around 9:30 or 10 and then don’t really eat at the game so I can’t help you out there. If you are drinking alcohol prepare to be raped. I useally get one or two of the 20 (or 24) oz Surly IPAs, but it will run you 20 bucks apiece. I look at it as being equivalent to about 4 regular beers so not awful.

Thatls all I have for you…Its a beautiful venue….which game are you going too?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 10:41 am

which game are you going too?’

Seems like I saw the answer somewhere.

‘We’ll be going to our first Vikings game this next Sunday.’

NoDakRube
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:05 am

Ah…you are correct….

I am going to the Kirko game as well….

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 11:12 am

I was afraid my comment would come across as too ‘a-hole-ish’.
I tried to stay on the ‘snarky’ side of that line.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:16 am

You were like Jordan Addison last week tip toeing the line.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 11:18 am

As long as I don’t drive like JA as well I will take that.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:54 am

NoDakRube
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:29 am

I was afraid my comment would come across as too ‘a-hole-ish’

My skin is fairly thick….I am no snowflake…I didn’t take offense.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 11:35 am

Still not crossing that line and being snarky yet respectful is a good thing to practice.
I can use all the practice being a good person as I can get.

NoDakRube
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:47 am

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:06 pm

I try, lord knows I try.
But I am a sinner so I seldom get it right.

NoDakRube
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 12:11 pm

The preacher had a great illustration of the gospel on Sunday.

“Suppose Michael Phelps and I had a race to see who could swim across the Pacific the fastest. Now Michael Phelps is a “better” swimmer and will make it much farther but neither of us are making it across the Pacific. We are both going to die. That’s how it is with trying to earn salvation…it doesn’t matter how good you are, you are not good enough, you need a Savior”.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:14 pm

that’s a wonderful story.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:15 pm

Not very inspiring it seems.

I would hope that I at least get an E for Effort.

NoDakRube
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 12:19 pm

Sorry SoCal, God doesn’t grade on a curve….you get nothing for effort.

O.K. enough theology for the day.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:24 pm

You think?. I thought we all fall short, but our trying (effort) to strive to be better is what really matters.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 12:27 pm

WE should for sure strive to be better – but that doesn’t matter. We strive to be better because of what Christ did for us. It’s like trying to please your parents – they will love you even if you are a shit – but most of us wanted to make our parents proud.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:31 pm

So since our efforts don’t matter and we will be loved regardless of what we do why are we trying to be the best person we can be again?

I am trying for me, but your argument runs counter to everything I a have been taught/believe.

NoDakRube
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 1:57 pm

Your efforts don’t matter because you will never be good enough…but why would you not want to live your very best life in honor of the One who saved your eternal soul?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 2:44 pm

Sounds very Communist or DEI.
It doesn’t matter what you do because all outcomes are the same for everyone.

Do your best to be the best person you can but just because it gives you a warm feeling.

I am glad that I was not raised to believe this woke stuff.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:32 pm

I’m not a good enough Christian. I still have a problem that someone like Hitler can accept Christ at the eleventh hour and have a seat at the table just like everyone else.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
2 December 2024 12:35 pm

The Prodigal Son story still bothers me too.

NoDakRube
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 1:55 pm

That one pisses me off, and how about the one where the owner of the vineyard goes to pick up workers in the town square throughout the day, and then he pays them the same whether they worked for 10 hours or for 1 hour.

Doesn’t seem fair does it?

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 2:00 pm

i have 3 kids.
My love for them doesn’t change.

We are all gods children.
If we admit we need help, ie sinned, he still loves us the same.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  DE Viking
2 December 2024 2:47 pm

I love my kids as well.
But if they are a-holes or criminals that doesn’t stop me from condemning their actions.
I will work on helping them becoming better person but that starts with helping them see their flaws so they begin to fix them.

IMHO of course.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 2:49 pm

Life’s about choices. I will support you becoming a better person, but choices have consequences and you will not learn from your actions if there are no consequences.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 2:53 pm

Amen Bow.
If your ‘efforts don’t count’ how can you learn to be a better person, there is no consequence to bad choices?

Something about ‘Spare the rod and spoil the child’.

manly-purple
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 11:33 am

Awesome info. Thank you!

manly-purple
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 11:37 am

One more question:

It says online the gates open 2 hours before the game (which would be 10:00 am). Have you had to wait until 10:30 before?

NoDakRube
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 11:41 am

I would go with what the on-line says. I thought it was 10:30 but we never get there before 11 anymore so I really wouldn’t know.

NoDakRube
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 11:43 am

If you do want to walk around the inside of the stadium, (and it has some neat stuff) it is a good idea to get there early early. By about 11:30 its pretty full and the concourses can get a little difficult to navigate in places.

manly-purple
Reply to  NoDakRube
2 December 2024 12:12 pm

Ok, thanks. Yes, I want to be able to take in the sights. It’ll be the first game for me and kiddo.

NoDakRube
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 12:16 pm

Enjoy it! It is what memories our made of.

NoDakRube
Reply to  manly-purple
2 December 2024 11:46 am

Depending on where you are trying to eat before the game you may need a reservation. The Local and Hells kitchen both take reservations…

freezeyface
2 December 2024 7:55 am

it feels pretty dang good sitting at 10-2

kind of crazy that the worst record we could end up with is 10-7, on a rebuilding year…

i guess you could call it a “competitive rebuild”

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 8:58 am

Are you Pete Bercich? Sure sounded like you on the radio yesterday.

freezeyface
2 December 2024 7:41 am

yesterday was maybe the first time EVER that my kids and wife were tuned in to a majority of the game (they would go in and out, go play this or that then come back and see and sit for a bit). Which is funny since it was a pretty gross game until the last 10 minutes or whatever…

my daughter kept telling me we could come back and win we just have to believe. So i told her i believed. and low and behold. The kids were jumping up and down, at one point i was holding all 3 at once spinning around…

but i think my favorite part of yesterday was getting the kids to chant with me “don’t be wimps, don’t be wimps” on the cardinals last drive, and our defense stepped up and made the play

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 8:03 am

quality parenting.
Well plaid

manly-purple
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 8:04 am

Love it!

Had my kid copying my nervous pace and my celebration jumping and dancing. Fun end to the game.

Wrenage
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 8:07 am

Fun times.

I had a very mellow viewing experience. Usually, I go watch with mom, but I had the house to myself for the first part of the game, so I decided to stay home and watch it.

Took a nap after the first quarter. Got up to see the last couple of minutes.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 8:08 am

I bailed during the 3rd quarter, and then saw they were making it close, so I watched the last 5 minutes.

Wrenage
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 8:16 am

It seems like the last minutes of games has become disproportionately action-packed in the modern NFL. Being down 10 points with two minutes left is not the insurmountable thing it once was.

Teams can get in field goal range in like 25 seconds now.

Maybe it was always like that, but it doesn’t see that way to my brain.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 8:19 am

I think the new kickoff rule changed that. Starting at the 30 instead of the 20 is a huge advantage. You only have to gain about 30-40 yards to get into field goal range.

Wrenage
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 8:22 am

Plus, 60-yard FGs are in play now, too.

I remember when a 53-yard FG was considered daring.

MT Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 1:27 pm

Wish we had Justin Tucker…oh, wait…

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 10:03 am

“Bailed during 3rd quarter”, wrenage takes a nap? What kind of fans are you guys? I’m not trying to be a dick, but man, I can’t wait each week for the next game, win or lose!

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
2 December 2024 10:15 am

“Bailed during 3rd quarter”, What kind of fans are you guys? 

I am a fair-weather fan. Obviously.

I am the type of fan that has seen enough shitty play by this team that I will do something else when they suck.
First half, the team sucked. 3rd quarter started just as bad for the offense.

So, I did something else for a while. After 2018 season and the Kirko failure, I got in the habit of recording games and only watching if they won. They are more interesting this season because Kirk is gone.

Once JJ is playing, I will watch all the games until I give up on him.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 10:28 am

Ready to watch every game for the next 20 years? You will NEVER give up on JJ.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 10:33 am

Wrenage
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
2 December 2024 10:20 am

No worries. I very rarely think people are dicks for their opinion, so let it rip!

As for me, I only have so much downtime a week to recuperate for the week ahead. I basically never let the Vikings interfere with that.

They get paid to let the game impact their life. I do not.

Ideally, all games would be 3 p.m. or 7 p.m. in my world. On weekends, I typically try to take a nap at 1 p.m.

My typical Sunday is up at 5 a.m., four-mile run, finish up chores, go to church, come home, take a nap and then do whatever else, so I am often falling sleep during noon games by habit at this point.

Since this year has been fun, I have been watching most of the games, though, and zonking out a bit after.

During the Kirk Cousins years, I probably only watched a complete game if they were at 3 p.m. or 7 p.m. Like Surly, getting rid of Kirk was a big reason to get me watching complete games again.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
2 December 2024 10:46 am

I would rather the ‘doomers’ bail that clog the game tread with ‘the sky is falling’ posts.
One bad play in the first at is ‘This team sucks’. More so on the DN game threat than here. But since I seldom get to actually see the game they have more information on what happened during the play so I have that opened for when I have questions.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 10:58 am

think it’s a blog thing. Couple of weeks back, went to some other team’s blogs as they were playing. And some were good teams. But you read the posts during the game, they’re terrible, bunch of bumbs, this or that player sucks, you name it. It’s kind of crazy.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:14 am

Call them Starbuck’s sipping pansies.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 11:16 am

Just post the image of a QR code that takes them to Trump’s donation page.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 11:16 am

Good one.
Sure to get a response from the collie-molesting admins.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:38 am

I don’t think any of them will be friending me on bookface’

@I greave for you@

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:02 am

Was that the one that you had to properly use the subject line too?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:03 am

I don’t post on the DN any more.
But I do check it for news occasionally and follow the game thread if I can’t get the game locally.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:12 am

Didn’t go there. But went to Lions site and you would have thought they were a 1 – 10 team and all their players suck.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 12:57 pm

Lifer, Five and Kodiak were great at the sky is falling.

JacksonVike
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
2 December 2024 11:13 am

Like Surly said, I record each game and if it is close I have to turn it and watch later. I have issues with my neck and close games get me too tense and I will get a really bad headache.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 8:46 am

In the second half when they were playing so poorly, I finally had to get up and turn on my computer to do some work. I still watched the game, but it gave me something to do besides be frustrated with their poor play.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  VikingPhilip
2 December 2024 8:57 am

I was driving until the 4th quarter. Listening on the radio was not any better than watching it and I couldn’t walk away. I turned the channel a couple of times but it was like watching a car wreck. I just couldn’t look away.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  freezeyface
2 December 2024 8:43 am

That is some great memory creations that you can hang on to forever.

freezeyface
Reply to  VikingPhilip
2 December 2024 8:53 am

now if it can just turn into super bowl celebrations

Wrenage
2 December 2024 7:36 am

Man, is Christian McCaffrey having a snake-bit year…

Wrenage
2 December 2024 7:34 am

I did not see all of the game Sunday, but I don’t really have any complaints. It was a game the Vikings should win, and they found a way to win it. It might have not been pretty, but there are a lot of teams hovering at a competent or slightly-above-competence level. Only a couple teams are a notch above, so a game between us as the Cardinals should be somewhat challenging.

Right now it looks like the Eagles and Lions are the notch-above teams in the NFC. If they get dinged by injuries, perhaps we can ascend to that level. I think we are in the slightly-above-competence level right now.

We can’t beat the Eagles or Lions if they are firing on all cylinders, but beating anyone else in the NFC is reasonable. Likewise, the Commanders, Seahawks, Rams, Packers, Bucs beating us is not unreasonable either if we are not firing on all cylinders.

Could be a fun last part of the season! I just don’t want to see any 41-0 BS…

VikesfaninSC
VikesfaninSC
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 8:36 am

My brother(pucker fan) said to me yesterday, your Vikings aren’t going anywhere in the playoffs… I told him, “we have overachieved so dramatically that I almost don’t care”. I really thought 6-11 was about the top of the mountain this year. SO, I am in your boat-just no 41-0 curb stomping and since we never stop competing, we could actually win a playoff game.

Wrenage
Reply to  VikesfaninSC
2 December 2024 8:49 am

I expected 4-6 wins, so I am having fun with the year, too.

FloridaSKOL
2 December 2024 7:12 am

Victory Monday!

SKOL!

FTP!

JacksonVike
2 December 2024 6:48 am

Was not prepared to come back to work after a week off. It will get better as the week goes on, luckily, I only had about 1 million emails to get caught up on.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 8:40 am

I have to clear emails when I’m on vacation. Coming back cold just isn’t feasible. I usually end up on the phone quite a bit because people are dumb and can’t function without micro management. The same micro management they then turn around and complain about.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  JacksonVike
2 December 2024 8:48 am

Emails are the worst. After having a few days off it would be nice to come in and just start doing your normal stuff, but instead it takes forever to go through all of the “issues” that no one could handle without you.

Surly Viking
Admin
2 December 2024 5:46 am

GM
FTP!
SKOL!

I re-watched the highlights of the ATL game. I know it is not Tues, but seeing Kirko do his thing is poetic. He played so bad yesterday that it almost reminded me of his 2018 game vs Chicago to end the season.
@ATL is getting what they paid for@

Thank god he is gone.

Now, I will not really be able to root for FTP on Thursday, but I will take whatever outcome as a win. Either the Vikings will gain a game on FTP or the Loins. Either way, it will help.

Happy Monday!

Wrenage
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 7:27 am

I saw a funny post on the Falcons SB site. Something like…

“Kirk should pass the torch to Penix…but it would probably be intercepted…”

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Wrenage
2 December 2024 8:07 am

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  Surly Viking
2 December 2024 10:08 am

Yup, can’t cheer for ftp. At least one of them will finally lose one.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
2 December 2024 10:25 am

Unless it ends up in a tie. That would mean we would still be 1/2 win behind.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 10:50 am

Team Meteor is the way.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:01 am

I don’t think I’ll even watch the game. Overall a Packer victory would possibly be better for the Vikings, but I don’t have a big enough trash can to collect the amount of vomit it would take for me to catch myself, even subconsciously, cheering for the Packers. I’ll just check the score at the end.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 11:15 am

Plumbing would back up trying to flush all that FTP inspired upchuck.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
2 December 2024 11:17 am

Yeah, I just paid 15 grand to fix my plumbing this spring. I don’t need to ruin it already.

Northwoods
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 11:19 am

Hmmmmm……I’d think the opposite. More upside to the Loins losing.

We can’t take the NFCN without the Loins losing 2 games right, and we’re running out of games for that to happen, so if FTP happens to do it, then we only need them to lose 1 more time.

If FTP wins, they’re still a game behind us (if we beat Kirko).

However, if Loins win, they stay a game ahead of us, and we put another game between us and FTP, so status quo.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Northwoods
2 December 2024 11:23 am

Isn’t a Lions loss the same thing as a Packers win?

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:40 am

No…you must put your Packer Hatred aside for one game. We really want the Vikings to win the Division and get home field…come on man, get with the program.

Northwoods
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 1:01 pm

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bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:42 am

The Lions still need to lose another and the Vikings win out.

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
2 December 2024 12:27 pm

exactly.

Northwoods
Reply to  Gone fishin'
2 December 2024 11:13 am

You can just NOT root for the Loins………..problem solved!

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Gone fishin'

Gone fishin'

I'm a dad, husband, Army vet, believer, and a die-hard, life-long Vikings fan from the great state of North Dakota. I've been a Viking fan dating back to 1980, I've been covering the Vikings for nearly a decade, and I founded Skoloholics in 2022. I work in real estate and property management, I love spending time with family, working in the yard, doing anything in the outdoors, and as you can tell from my username, I love fishing. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!

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