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Tomorrow is the draft. Finally all the mock drafts and player rankings will end, though the idiot pundits will complain that this player was drafted too high and is a “reach” and this player was drafted too low and is a “steal”. The idiot fans will say the same thing based on their “internet research” of various big boards. Nobody really knows how NFL teams have players ranked so its really pointless.
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Night guys. Tomorrow evening we can discuss the draft. It starts at 8 p.m. At 10 minutes per selection, plus 3 minutes of after selection celebrations, our pick won’t be till after 11 p.m.
They reduced the 10 minutes per team to 8, so we pick around 10:20 eastern time
’10:20 Easter Time’
Or about 8:20 here, prime time viewing…. er computer following.
Why do you care what time our pick will be since you have mentioned multiple times that you won’t watch it? Just get up Friday Morning and see what happened.
OK a riddle for the evening…
I have 13 hearts but no other organs.
What am I?
Artichoke Salad??
Creative… but no.
Deck of cards
Clever boy… correct!
Showoff!!
My answers are more fun-er.
#grin
Hallmark Valentines Day Card??
There are days I wonder why.
Why What I Wonder?
Sometimes I wonder as I wander.
I prefer to ‘sit and wonder’…. on my ‘thinking throne’.
With tomorrow being draft day will there be any other talk except about football?
Never seen this happen…
Still a catch. lol
I was kind of wondering about that.
‘kind of wondering about that’
So was the pitcher given the look on his face.
Dead ball, batter takes 1st base.
Temporary win. This case will very likely advance to the Virginia Supreme Court for final resolution.
Logical.
Every little bit helps.
How many activist leftists are on the Virginia Supreme Court, though?
Dunno
Does anyone remember Justin Jefferson’s first TD reception? How many yards, and who was it against?
Tennessee his rookie year.
65+ yards iirc. Don’t remember the exact distance.
Game we lost, I know that.
It went for 71 yards, and yes, the Vikings lost 31 to 30 to the Titans. Jefferson had 7 catches for 175 yards.
His catch though put the Vikings up 24-12 at that point in the game.
Yup, Kwerk choked on the potential game winning drive. Dude shoulda been gone at the end of 2019
Sounds to me like the D choked
Well, that’s a bit of a stretch. Cousins hit Kyle Rudolph for a one-handed, toe-tapping grab in the back of the end zone for a 30-25 lead with 10:17 left (his 3rd TD pass of the game) but the depleted Vikings defense didn’t do enough to hold it. Tannehill and Henry helped move the Titans just close enough for Gostkowski, whose three second-half makes were all from 50-plus yards.
Yes, the Vikings had one last chance at the end of the game, but the Titans defense really toughened up. Cousins had to chuck up a desperation ball on 4th and 24, that was picked off. That’s not choking IMO, it was a defense beating our O-line over and over and preventing our offense from getting into field goal range as time expired. The offense took the lead in the 4th quarter. The defense couldn’t defend that lead, and then the offense just couldn’t execute that last drive to win it.
There you go NLNVF. Using those damn facts to make a point.
Everything is in the eye of the beholder I guess.
Two people do not like our take on this…..
That has become the ‘new normal’.
Down vote anything that triggers you.
Pinche Snowflakes.
Personally I don’t care PA. I consider the source.
I may down vote you for not caring…..
Laughing
Street Cred for being apathetic.
Yeah, I guess his 8 game-winning drives in 2022 (NFL record) mean he sucks.
My biggest draft question is will the Vikings draft a QB?
My bet is yes.
I have mocked to them get a late round developmental type if I have traded for extra picks and no one else seems better than an UDFA.
I think Nussmeier as a mid/late round pick would be good.
I usually went Joe Fagnano, QB, UConn, 6”3″, 226 lbs. Completed almost 70% while only throwing 1 Int. Suppose to have a ‘good processor’ although I don’t know how to quantify that.
But their schedule is real, real soft
Which is why he is rated about #257. It looks like he has the tools to develop so at Pick 244 or even UDFA he might be worth a shot.
Yawn……
Not sure it is worth it.
Unless they’re trading JJ it makes no sense
Didn’t JJ get hurt taking out the garbage this past week?
Nope…he got hurt taking out Yore Mom.
I mean, that person is an instant Practice Squad
Any player chosen after round 2 is likely an instant Practice Squad player.
Tipping their hand as to what position they’ll be targetting?
Or this could explain it.
‘Some credible reports also indicate that Hutchings suffered an injury setback this spring, and he could be part of the Vikings’ roster in the future’
Oh….there were more details below the headline???
LOL. Yes, injury could explain it. Why don’t they move him to IR? Or can’t that be done in the offseason?
I thinknyou are reading more into this than you should.
No need to make cuts at this time in order to draft
Too fat.
Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave played over 1,300 DT snaps last year. Right now we have Levi Drake Rodriguez and Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins to replace them. Hmmm… methinks we need some additional work at DT.
We also have Jalen Redmond, Taki Tiamani, and Elijah Williams.
And I agree a DT/NT early is vital. They have met with several 1st and 2nd Day DLs.
Yep… of those folks, only Redmond is really impressive. The others aren’t difference makers. Some how, some way, we need to improve that group. We need a behemoth, monster NT/DT combination that obliterates the opposing line. A duo that matched with Redmond are a real problem.
If I am thinking correctly I thought at times the young guys did a great job filling in for them when they had to yes? I mean, I know we need more ammo in that position but is it as dire as we think? I don’t know, in Flores we trust.
In my mind I don’t recall any of them doing anything of note. Redmond did a lot. I don’t think the others did though.
Both LDR and TID showed flashes at times – mainly TFL’s in the run game. Didn’t show as much as Redmond – but Allen and Hargrave were on the field a lot more. There’s potential there.
Still need a game wrecker though.
Go get Desmond “Big Dez” Watson massive 6’5″, 400+ lb defensive tackle. He was cut by the Bucs to lose weight but his job under Flores would be to clog the middle take up space for LBs to go around him on stunts. Big guy picked up for practice squad money if he doesn’t work for anything more than a camp body oh,well.
I saw that guy in training camp video’s here (in Tampa). He’s a very, very large man.
Mostly an option for countering the ‘Tush Push’ IMHO.
The idea that “two wrongs make a right” or “the other side does it too” is nothing more than a toilet bowl race to the bottom.
Especially when it is a 80-20 or even 90-10 split and the 80/90 side says ‘they do it too’.
Yesterday I posted about grandkid at CYO night at Penn Relays. Thete were 77 middle school boys teams, so they ran 11 heats. Top 9 get invited back on Friday for finals in front of 40,000 fans.
Kids team took 2nd overall, so they are heading back down to UPenn’s Franklin Field. He ran a strong anchor leg
Congrats! How long was the relay?
4×100.
I ran the College 5000m at Penn Relays back in 1981. 45 years later, grandkid is there
‘4×100’
Tricky, got to get the baton passes right or it all does bad quickly.
#nojinx
You are correct. The 3 baton passes will determine the champion. Last night, our passes were very good
Awesome PA! Congrats. Great to hear and good luck in the next event!
Goose when I told him his mock drafts were dumb…..
All mock drafts are dumb.
But they can be entertaining and even educational.
lol gooooooooose! His mocks are not dumb
The modern Democratic machine operates from a core psychological defect:
narcissistic moral entitlement fused with authoritarian control needs.
They have convinced themselves and their followers that their vision of the future is so morally pristine that any violation of norms, laws, or democratic guardrails is not corruption…it’s prophylaxis.
Rig the election? Necessary.
Censor dissent? Public health.
Prosecute political opponents while shielding your own? Rule of law.
The ends don’t just justify the means; the means dissolve the moment they inconvenience the anointed.
Not wrong to a certain degree but also sounds in the same regard very much like the Republican Party. Aren’t they the ones trying to force their moral agenda of their specifc religion in schools (literal indoctrination), passing laws of their morality concerning sexual orientation, they also have a very strong history of wanting censorship of many things as well, laws of corruption like not wanting actual campaign finance transparency (at least in SD when the populace voted in such a law the Republican Gov with the support of all the Republican legislators enacted a state of emergency so they could repeal the law), Republicans have ABSOLUTELY not been above going after political opponents while shielding their own…
At the same time, every time I go home now, I have to fight with my mom a bit as she has been completely taken over by her algorithm that the Trump administration has never done anything good ever and she never sees one bad story about Dems… sounds like many around here in reverse.
Just curious in case I missed something….which laws? I know they are trying to pass laws in some states making it illegal to mutilate children under 18 for “gender affirming care”, are those the laws you are referring to?
Which party is the party who fought tooth and nail to oppose gay marriage?
“Gender Affirming Care” I really struggle with. Every fiber of my brain hates it but then my libertarian thoughts creep in lol. From my own moral stance I hate it so much… but this is a free country and parents do have rights over their consenting to what their kids can and can’t do…? Like is this one of those things where the lines of freedom being strong and unbroken is more important that a terrible, terrible decision a parent lets a kid make? I don’t know. Like I am totally open on this one to be swayed either way with good arguments.
Oh, so you are going back to the 80s and 90s when most democrats opposed gay marriage as well.
That ship has sailed, and the republicans aren’t trying to undo gay marriage.
Now your point about religion in the schools is relevant. Getting the 10 commandments in schools doesn’t seem to me like good policies, but neither does not allowing the teacher to have a bible at his/her desk or to pray in school by themselves.
This doesn’t upset me, I don’t like Dems either. Did you forget? The point is both sides suck.
Unless something has changed I believe there was a Supreme Court case on personal religious things in schools is fine. A teacher can have a bible, can have a cross necklace etc… Which I totally agree with. But pushing it onto kids is a whole other story. There’s a line you can cross with pushing your religion and having a religion. Ya know?
Agree, but the line gets blurry sometimes. I know there have been coaches fired in the last few years for leading prayer at the 50 yard line after a game.
Not requiring kids to be there, mind you.
I don’t think they should have been fired.
I get that law, I don’t like it but I get it. When I was in high school and when I coached football a coach would always have a player lead prayer. It’s an easy work around, very easy. Would you have issue with before every game and the coach had everyone bow and pray to Allah or Satan? I know that sounds ridiculous but I bet you wouldn’t have liked it.
My point is there is a strong history of these things that neither side is above. That IS the point. Right now the left is the side pushing for more censorship shit but not that long ago it’s the right. It will be the right again, the problem is neither side stands on actual principals. The reason this happens is people do what you are doing and make excuses for their side when their side is the culprit. It’s the same with Dems that were screaming against censorship in the past that are now OK with it, stand on some damn principles and call your side out when they cross those lines of principals.
Or maybe its the laws where they don’t want boys and men playing in female sports? Are those the laws you are talking about?
I still don’t think there needs to be laws about that. Those bodies running those sports need to sack up (pun intended). I wish they’d just say girls can play whatever sport they want, no competitive advantage. But no, boys don’t get to play girls sports. I agree with the notion totally. But I hesitate with there needing to be laws on this.
So this “I know you are but what am I” argument falls apart when you actually examine the facts.
Documented ballot harvesting operations in key urban centers, Big Tech suppression coordinated with federal agencies, selective enforcement of campaign finance laws that magically never touch the right people, and lawfare campaigns timed to kneecap candidates…these are not conspiracy theories.
They are observable, repeatable patterns of power maintenance by a party that views the Constitution as an obstacle rather than a covenant.
Activist judges that legislate from the bench, undermine the rule of law, and allow criminals to run free on our streets.
There is so much political corruption on the left being exposed now that’s sickening. Hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars money laundered through NGO’s to fuel the Democrat political pursuits. With politicians working overtime to ensure the fraud and money keeps flowing.
I see reality being presented to the Nation now. Not the “it works the same way on the right” commentary you just pushed out.
I want law and order, I want secure borders, I want fraud exposed and people going to jail for it, I want our elections secured, I want our enemies vanquished. I want the Nation to be safer, more secure, and more prosperous. I want the insane woke ideology quashed for good and all. The left doesn’t pursue any of those things. They want the chaos they purposely create and fund, to rein so they can promote themselves as the saviors coming to the rescue. As I said, they are both arsonist and fireman. Burn the country down, so they can take power.
Correct in a lot of this BUT the RIGHT IS NOT ABOVE THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR.
Views the Constitution as an obstacle rather than a covenant… I’m guessing it’s only covenant when it’s something you agree with or does that apply to actions you might agree with from a personal perspective but still violate the constitution?
Based on court rulings, legal challenges, and analyses by constitutional scholars, several actions and statements by Donald Trump have been identified as violating or threatening to violate the U.S. Constitution. These actions have spanned his first term and the beginning of his second term (as of April 2026), with many resulting in federal lawsuits or blocked executive orders. Congressman Steve Cohen (.gov)
+3
Here is a list of actions and statements that have been cited as unconstitutional:
1. Separation of Powers Violations
2. Violations of the First Amendment
3. Violations of the 14th Amendment and Citizenship
4. Violations of the Fourth Amendment
5. Statements Regarding the Constitution
6. Emoluments Clause Issues
I’m guessing next will come a bunch of excuses why this isn’t covenant for Donald H Christ.
TLDR… I’m certain I could take all of that point by point, put it in context, and demonstrate the fallacies thereof. Just not interested in putting that level of effort in it. This looks like a cut and paste of leftist bullet points BTW. That is why I think if I wanted to I could successfully argue a counterpoint to all of it.
HA! dude talks fallacies while committing fallacies in same response. Cute little Ad Hominem or Genetic fallacy of attacking where data came from rather than the data itself. It is copied and pasted from AI. It could type it much faster than I. To be honest there are some things in there I could argue too. The point being the constitution IS NOT covenant to you. It’s not to the Dems, it’s not to the Republicans.
AI isn’t infallible, and there is no as hominem in my commentary. Ad hominem refers to a fallacy where an argument is rebutted by attacking the character or attributes of the person making it, rather than addressing the argument itself. I didn’t do that.
Well duuuhhhh, AI Is very fallible. But the definition of Ad Hominem: An informal fallacy where the speaker’s personal attributes—such as intelligence, character, or reputation—are attacked to divert attention from the substance of their argument.
So you were attacking more of your opinion of the source and it’s reputation rather than the information itself. It’s why I included more of a genetic fallacy but it’s a little ad hominem-ish in that regard.
You’re wasting your breath man. NLNVF is never wrong, war with Iran is good, WW3 with Nukes is good, Kirk Cousins is the greatest QB to over breathe air, and the only restaurant we need in our lives is Cracker Barrel and the only pictures we need on the walls of our schools are pictures of Donald Trump, Jesus and a picture of BBQ Ribs.
“casualties happen.” – NLNVF (aka colonel Jessup)
TLDR = I can’t argue against what you’ve stated.
For once i agree with NLNVF.
TL:DR
but they do sound like prepackaged talking points.
LOL. Most of these talking points from AI are BS. A lot of “questioning”, “calling”, “threatening”, “suggesting” terms, which are not actual crimes or violations of the constitution. At best, “thought crimes”, which many don’t have actual footing to begin with – several of these things aren’t actually violations, regardless if they have been committed or not.
Try posing the same prompt about Joe Biden and the leftist AI will probably say he never even thought about violating the constitution in his whole life.
The thing he wanted was “covenant” and things you find as “covenant” you don’t “threaten,” “Question” etc…
Do you actually read some of the garbage you post? Some of that, regardless of being actual violations of the constitution, has good reason to be done or questioned.
***actual violations or not (several things listed aren’t)
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Preach. Both sides suck and no US citizen should glaze ANY political figure and blindly follow or support ANY human being because all are flawed and do wrong. That goes for local Mayor all the way up to President.
Unfortunately true, but as with many things in life, it is picking the lesser of the evils. And it’s often an obvious choice when it comes to politics, IMO.
Sure, I understand that. I did that as well when I voted last year. However, I don’t go on a Football form and constantly post about “how great” this politician or president is and verbally glaze them any chance I get and treat the form like my own personal blog. The real issue is there shouldn’t be lesser of Evil, and blindly supporting one side, whatever it may be is bad, and has been a problem since before my parents were born.
I agree it shouldn’t be that way, but realistically we’re stuck with two choices. So we have to pick one.
You need to realize you are the exact same as those you’re ranting about…you just have different talking points.
” You need to realize you are the exact same…… ” – says whom?
Not at all. I point out reality. The left shouts out the “existential threat to democracy” line at the top of their lungs, while they actually ARE the threat to democracy. They are supporting Marxist ideals, supporting terrorist nations, actively censoring voices that disagree, and conducting lawfare to destroy their opponents. The right isn’t rigging elections. They want elections to be carefully managed to ensure they aren’t rigged. The left screams that’s voter suppression. The left pushes their fight against racism, while they actually plan, organize, and fund bogus white supremacist events to fuel racial division. They are both fireman and arsonist in this regard. As I said, they insist they are morally superior, while conducting themselves in the most insidious and seditious manner imaginable.
The right isn’t rigging elections? Hahaha, pfffftttttt, hahahahaha, pfffftttttt, hahahahaha, pfffffffft… Did you see what Texas was doing with gerrymandering?
How is this not rigging by both? Are you shitting me? You just showed that you can’t look at this subject without extreme bias and with no actual logic because party lines/identity rules your thoughts.
Both major parties engage in gerrymandering, but analyses suggest Republicans have historically utilized it more extensively and efficiently to gain a national advantage. While Republicans secured significant advantages in states like Texas and Florida, Democrats have recently pursued aggressive counter-gerrymandering in states like Illinois, New York, and Virginia to offset the GOP advantage.
Key Findings on Gerrymandering:
So the left has been gerrymandering for decades, long before Texas stepped up legally to change their states districts, and NOW you claim both sides do it? Laughable. Did you see what just happened last night in Virginia? Yeah… I think this argument is total weak sauce at this point. California is doing the same thing.
The election fraud and all the financial fraud the Dem’s have conducted over the years is coming out. More and more Americans are seeing it. Now the left is actually trying to pass laws to stop independent journalists from exposing the fraud. How can you accept that? How can you turn a blind eye to the corruption? The fraud? The Marist march to the destruction of our Nation?
The GOP has never had an advantage in gerrymandering (overall) at any point in time. Again, quit asking leftist AI. Try Grok.
When did this guy show up? Finally some other rationally non-captured people around here?
The only thing accepting left wing talking points gets you is a false sense of superiority.
The left’s ideology is a complete lie.
The right’s ideology is more pragmatic to individuals, but the Pols still line their pockets and don’t give a rip anyway.
I’m over politics, but will never vote for a democrat ever again.
Exactly this ^^^
I sure a Hades don’t come to a FOOTBALL FAN SITE to read it.
Which party??
When we examine our O-line at the moment, do we consider them inadequate, good, or strong?
Darrisaw
Jackson
Brandel
Fries
O’Neill
From strong (Darrisaw, O’Neill) to good (Jackson, Fries) to barely adequate (Brandel). IMHO of course.
Depth is as important as the starters and I am less sure about that.
Adequate. Darrisaw has been very good but oft injured so far in his career, Jackson was decent for a rookie, who knows who the starting center will be but what they have now is below average. Fries is solid and actually stays healthy, O’Neill is very good but had some injuries the last few years. If healthy they’re good outside of center.
Really comes down to Brandel. Outside of him, very strong OL. IF they can stay healthy. It’s just too bad that one position Brandel has is VERY VERY important lol.
Schrager thinks Thieneman (S) or Sadig (TE). I would be pretty happy with either. Maybe a slight preference for Thieneman based on my
hoursminutes of research.I don’t know what a ‘Schrager’ is or why his/her/it’s opinion is any more valid-er then anyone elses.
I wouldn’t be upset over either of those two but it will depend on who else is still on the board at #18.
I reserve my right to riot.
Peter Schrager is a talking head on NFL draft network…my opinion he is more intelligent and well informed than most.
Well the Vikings have met with both of those players so at least he isn’t making things up out of whole cloth like most ‘experts’.
They should take the player that doesn’t suck
A novel approach.
KAM wasn’t very good at it, hit a couple picks but most sucked
Brilliant!
For some reason I get the gut feeling that if the pick is Sadig then we are basically saying we are still competitive rebuilding for next year. Because he won’t play in front of Hock I wouldn’t think.
Good take….
Actually I don’t see anyone we draft being a Day One starter on this team. They could work their way into the starting lineup especially at OC, DT and Safety if Hitman doesn’t come back.
I think the safety would start game 1 if Hitman retires.
We have Josh Metellus, Jay Ward, and Theo Jackson.
A Rd 1 Rookie Safety might be able to work his way into the starting lineup eventually. But Day 1? Color me skeptical.
I think a DT/NT starting early is more likely.
Taking a TE in the first is stupid.
The end.
I prefer not to draft a TE in R1. Too mamy other bigger needs. Defense or trenches……
What if we had a functioning crystal ball and knew for sure Sadiq was Gronk 2.0?
Exactly, all though I have been told he is more like Kyle Pitts….
Agreed.
But I have been able to get high quality, athletic defense and trench guys all thru the draft, TEs also.
I would look for a developmental TE for later and if the board fell so that didn’t happen it wouldn’t be a tragedy. D and Big Uglies are more important-er.
I hope they don’t get Sadiq. I think he is Irv Smith 2.0 and we’ll be waiting for him to “break out” for forever. His whole highlight tape is fly routes down the seam. He’s not that talented IMO.
1 day till Draft day! Then we can all criticize the pick based on our expert knowledge.
I have seen so many variations of the 1st round and seen the justification for them that not much will surprise me much now, even a trade back.
If we go PBA then anyone is a possibility since we have no clue how the Vikings view the different options.
I have preferences but they are worth no more that a ‘fart in the wind’ so at least I will be entertained.
I’m sure I will criticize based on my personal opinion with no actual facts behind that opinion.
If you’re late for special ed, is it ok for the teacher to call you tardy?
If you are tardy more than once are you re-tardy?
I was going to go the same direction, but I know at least one person on this site has said they have a relative with strong mental limitations….so I didn’t.
1 person rules the roost is what I’m hearing.
Tuesday again?!?!
Evidently fixed??
Yup, shortly after this post.
Not a huge doobie brothers fan, but to each his own.
I grew up with the Doobie Brothers constantly on the radio so their sound is part of my childhood.
1st! FTP!
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