Minnesota Vikings Discussion-Back Page: 01 Mar 2023

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Minnesota Vikings News:

Catch Kwesi-Adofo-Mensah’s press conference from the scouting combine yesterday, courtesy of Vikings.com. Also, Pelissero joined PA to discuss the upcoming Vikings off-season.

A video has emerged from the Alvin Kamara assault, from the New York Post.

The Buccaneers plan to release RB Leonard Fournette, per NFL.com.

From Sports Illustrated, Federal investigators are looking further into the affairs of Dan Snyder.

Video of the Day:

Played some 90s music yesterday, so I started thinking back to that era for more good music. Here’s Creep by Radiohead. Enjoy!

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pirateflip
1 March 2023 11:26 pm

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the *Viking* way… Pink Floyd released Dark Side of the Moon 50 years ago today.

VikingPhilip
1 March 2023 7:57 pm

Did I miss anything?

Rob
Rob
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Reply to  VikingPhilip
1 March 2023 8:41 pm

@yes@

Lifer
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Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 5:23 pm

Word on the street is he could now fall to around pick 17 (Steelers). If he’s that close I’m 100% using a 1st for next year (try to keep 23) trading up and grabbing him.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 5:43 pm

PFF’s (whether you like them or not) highest rated player ever. (Tied with Quentin Williams who’s a goddamn monster)

Lifer
Admin
1 March 2023 4:01 pm

I’ve joined to slobber on Kirk’s cock….can someone point me in the right direction?

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 4:15 pm

NVF is bogarting AGAIN!

bowbunch
bowbunch
1 March 2023 3:56 pm

Jalen Ramsey trade fits: Lions, Giants, Jags headline my favorite landing spots for the Pro Bowl corner

#5 Minnesota Vikings

I previously touched on the 2022 Vikings’ fluky win total. But before you completely rake me over the coals, Vikes faithful, know that I was the one who gave Kevin O’Connell a first-place vote for Coach of the Year. He worked wonders in his first season as a head man. The Vikings just didn’t have the dudes on defense, which finally sunk them in the playoffs.

Well, Ramsey would be THAT DUDE in Minnesota, giving the defense the brashness — and greatness — it sorely lacked over the past few seasons. The Vikings haven’t finished above 24th in scoring defense or total D since 2019, back when Ramsey moved from the East Coast to the West Coast. How about another relocation to the Midwest?

Lifer
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Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:44 pm

Considering your weather…crank that som bitch up.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 3:48 pm

That’s a wasteful creation of greenhouse gases and is also going to directly contribute to global warming.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 4:02 pm

Greta says you are promising…join her in the forest.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 4:04 pm

In that case, GF, turn that hot tub up to about 110 and leave the lid off when you go inside tonight.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 7:38 pm

Want a hot tub badly. Once I get my forever home I’ll do it

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:12 pm

Got it up, thanks for the heads-up, Skolly!

There is a lot to unpack in that statement……

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 7:38 pm

Thanks for posting!

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 2:48 pm

Can’t wait till we extend him here shortly! LFGGGGGG

Rob
Rob
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Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 3:28 pm

^^^that’s trade bait verbiage there

DE Viking
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 3:30 pm

It could be. But I doubt it. Extension incoming….

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
1 March 2023 4:03 pm

Nah…they’re drawing up the papers on that extension as we speak.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 4:02 pm

Wishful thinking much Rob?

KFEY93
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:12 pm

Hype him up for that Trade BB!!! LFGGGGG

stuman55
1 March 2023 2:41 pm

!!!!

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SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 2:47 pm

Likely never gonna happen with WordPress

benjammin
Admin
1 March 2023 2:25 pm

Summary:

Lifer wants to have a discussion about grooming, also thinks its unfortunate Kirk is not a winner

The great Kirk Cousins debate continues for the 1812th day

beetlejuice Lori Lightfoot losing election discussion

NoDak comments on wrong days thread

Skoldiers is not 5, though his exact age is still a mystery

Basement discussion

More Kirk Cousins debate

Mick thinks the Kirk discussion should continue tomorrow

It snowed a little according to GF

rob wants to extend Kirk Cousins

The Vikings are #1 in the NFL at pampering their players

320 comments and about 275 of them are about Cousins

That’s about it.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 2:28 pm

LOL

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 2:34 pm

Kirk Cousins must be the most derisive QB in NFL history.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  DE Viking
1 March 2023 2:48 pm

Might be the most polarizing in NFL history not gonna lie

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 2:51 pm

Deshaun Watson line 1
Mike Vick line 2

benjammin
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Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 2:54 pm

Not really a good comparison, they actually did shit to be polarizing. Kirk is just polarizing because… I honestly don’t fucking know why.

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:17 pm

That and not getting to the playoffs consistently.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:25 pm

Were they really demands or was it simply multiple teams competing for him and offering him huge contracts? Didn’t Kirk actually take less money to go to MN than the Jets offered him? Was he supposed to pick a team and then tell them, I know what you offered, but how about you pay me less than that?

benjammin
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Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:26 pm

I don’t necessarily blame Kirk for that, I mean its not wrong for him to ask, I’d blame Rick more for caving in due to his inability to effectively evaluate QBs.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 4:09 pm

He got one of the best QB’s in the league. I wouldn’t say Cousins was a “miss”. I think Zimmer hated him for some reason though. He just wanted to build the offense around Cook. He fired DeFlip for throwing the ball too much in his first year. DeFlip also didn’t build the offense to accentuate Cousins strengths. Quite the opposite. He insisted Cousins rewire his brain and instincts to run the new offense. Much like KOC did this year.

benjammin
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 4:18 pm

I didn’t mean to imply Kirk with regard to Rick, it was obvious Kirk was at a minimum a decent qb. He struggled otherwise finding adequate QB play for a decade.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 4:44 pm

Ah soooo… got it. For the record I was always a Sam Bradford fan. I think if he could have stayed healthy he might could have set some NFL records.

Rob
Rob
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 6:44 pm

^^^truth

benjammin
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:39 pm

Bradford had more arm talent than anyone I’ve ever seen, but he was a huge injury risk and ended up a bad trade for exactly that reason.

Rob
Rob
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 6:44 pm

@good times@

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 7:30 pm

I enjoyed it but I’m a lib.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 2:21 pm

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 2:26 pm

Bone breaks may be easier to rehab, not sure. Someone enlighten me. Booth is a loser.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 2:29 pm

Where’s MT?

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 2:52 pm

Nobody posted his Wednesday gif so he left is my guess. That or the wife got a clean bill of health and he’s sleeping.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 3:28 pm

Lol

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 2:57 pm

Depends, a simple fracture sure its easier. A compound fracture where the bone protrudes the skin and potentially ligament tearing not so much. Yeah Booth sucks though.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 2:59 pm

Dak came back just fine.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 3:01 pm

What does that have to do with how difficult rehab is? Also Dak’s position is not predicated on running every single play.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 3:05 pm

I was just saying that Dak had a pretty similar injury and rehabbed and returned pretty successfully. The original statement is that bone breaks may be easier to rehab but compared to what? I guess, at least he seems to be putting the effort to come back and hopefully there’s some hope for him still.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 3:09 pm

Oh, I took him to mean compared to soft tissue or ligament injury like Booth has. I do think Cine will come back fine though, I just meant his rehab won’t be so simple as a standard fracture. Most important thing for his compound fracture was avoiding the infection like Alex Smith ended up with.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 3:12 pm

Gotcha. The Smith infection was horrible. Hopefully this kid can come back healthy and get what’s between his ears squared away too. Everybody said AP would never be the same, who knows.

Lifer
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Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 3:48 pm

I’m with yeah on the Booth is a loser opinion. A. He’s injury adverse which I honestly don’t hold against a player just is what it is. B. He’s a non thinker just gonna win with my physicality oops I over ran the play, got a penalty, was in the wrong place. Guy imo will not make it in this league. Hope I’m wrong.

norseman1
norseman1
1 March 2023 2:19 pm

Maybe we should have a Kirk Cousins page, but what would we talk about here?

HUNViking
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 3:07 pm

About all the stupid shit that is going on over at the Kirk Cousins page?

benjammin
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1 March 2023 1:57 pm

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stuman55
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 2:06 pm

HUNViking
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 3:08 pm

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 1:21 pm

Vikings are finally #1!!!!!!!!!!

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 1:25 pm

Likely doesn’t mean anything but I guess signals a decent organization and maybe helps with FA

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 1:27 pm

It means they’re a bunch of coddled sissies and why they’ll never win the SB

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 1:28 pm

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 1:30 pm

Might be onto something there…we need to go full Rocky III, or is it IV?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 1:36 pm

I think in Rocky III he trains out in LA where Apollo got started, Rocky IV he goes to Russia for training.

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 1:43 pm

Yes thats right…both movies he trained in modest facilities though…so I guess either one works.

The point is we need to be de-sissiefied – like Rocky.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 1:46 pm

Yes, correct, so we can knock out the NFL version of Clubber Lang or Ivan Drago

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 1:50 pm

Maybe one of the coaches can rip the heads off some stuffed animals. I heard that is motivating.

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 2:00 pm

HUNViking
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 2:09 pm

JacksonVike
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 2:59 pm

Creed 2 would be a good example

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  JacksonVike
1 March 2023 3:00 pm

Apollo got his own movies? But he died?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:23 pm

What is Creed? He died in Rocky IV.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:03 pm

Hopefully he kicks the shit out of Aaron Rodgers while he’s there

HUNViking
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 1:36 pm

JacksonVike
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 2:58 pm

After all the stuff with Tua how can Miami be #2?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
1 March 2023 3:02 pm

Because Miami didn’t do anything wrong, the independent (chosen by NFLPA and NFL) doctor cleared him, he was later fired even though all protocols were followed and Tua cleared all protocols.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 3:06 pm

How about trying to force their head coach into tanking? Or cheating to try and get a certain free agent?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 3:22 pm

Yeah, well that’s a valid point.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 3:50 pm

Conservative says culture and workplace quality doesn’t matter but hey guess it’s ok.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 4:18 pm

Conservatives say no such thing.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 4:21 pm

Shut up and get back to work balloon bitch

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 5:28 pm

Big day at the balloon factory…sold a cluster for the mirror balloons and one of our custom most expensive clear with the teddy bear in the middle. I might get a nickel raise.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 1:25 pm

NoDakRube
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 1:26 pm

Its almost as good as winning the Owl.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 4:03 pm

The facilities are definitely top notch. No debating that one.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:32 pm

Dusting in cities, most melted.

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:36 pm

According to my weather guy I follow out of Wyoming, according to models right now we are on pace for another 12-15 in over the next 10 days. Looks like a storm moving in around the 8th. Keep the machine ready to go.

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:44 pm

Theres pictures of me as a kid playing in the aftermath of that storm but I have no recollection of it. My Dad talks about it too, they also lost cattle. Bismarck has had bigger storms but over all it has been a pretty snowy winter. If it means we are no longer in drought this summer Ill be happy. Been a while since iv seen everything green.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:47 pm

getting a shitload here.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:54 pm

Crazy GF… you need to come visit me in Florida…

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 2:28 pm

Nice to see open water. These GD blind spots from snow pissing me off.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:05 pm

I’m headed to Florida at the end of this month, headed to Anaheim in May, really wish it was only Florida though.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 4:22 pm

Well here’s a view from my living room

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No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 5:27 pm

That’s the 5th hole of the Fox Hollow Golf course in Trinity Florida. 200 yard par 3 over a lake from the back tees. I watch golfers hit their tee shots into that lake and curse loudly all day. Great free entertainment.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 5:31 pm

this looks like a Cialis commercial…go get-’em tiger.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 5:36 pm

We are very happy here after 13 years in the D.C. area. No more shoveling snow, raking leaves, scraping frost off the car, etc. The wife is content and relaxed hanging out in her bikini. Good times.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 7:38 pm

Your cat seriously needs a diet lol….

the screened in lanai reminds me of ours when we lived in Heathrow in Orlando. Had a killer huge salt pool I really miss.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 5:39 pm

That is beyond awesome! I love it.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
1 March 2023 5:54 pm

Come visit any time Kathy…

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 7:41 pm

I’m on my way…we can golf, talk politics, global warming and I can cook some of my favorite vegan dishes!

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 1:29 pm

Storm total from last night through this morning: 12.3 inches

Storm total in Minot 0.0 inches…
my son is home with his girlfriend from the south (Spring Break) – she has never been outside when snow is falling so they hopped in the truck and drove towards Bismarck until they met the snow.

Rob
Rob
Admin
1 March 2023 12:21 pm

Kirk Cousins is the best QB the Vikings have ever had
its time to extend him long term

Rob
Rob
Admin
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 12:25 pm

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 12:28 pm

Well, either that or replace him with someone who can produce more than 30+ TD’s and 4,000+ yards every single year behind a bad line.

Wrenage
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 12:30 pm

Extend him…you mean like this?

GA Skol
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 12:32 pm

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GA Skol
Reply to  GA Skol
1 March 2023 12:32 pm

Extend him real good

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  GA Skol
1 March 2023 1:58 pm

Looks like a good stretch

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 1:15 pm

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 1:26 pm

But you don’t like Kirk? lol

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:22 pm

NOAA said we got about a foot out here around the air port. I was downtown and in Mandan for a bit last night..drove back on 1804 and around airport road…almost got stuck several times. Fun stuff.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 1:14 pm

Damn…

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 12:01 pm

Packers going big?

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 12:11 pm

Gotta get ready for the massive dead hit they’re gonna take when they get rid of Rodgers.

GA Skol
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 12:35 pm

They still only have under $17MM in cap space. Bacteria is going to cost them close to $29MM against the cap this year.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  GA Skol
1 March 2023 3:52 pm

Go wash your dogs balls.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 4:23 pm

Lol, a responsible pet owner spays or neuters their pet

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 4:08 pm

$30 mil cap hit for a lineman? Ouchy. That makes a $30 mill hit for JJ feel not so bad.

JRo_42
JRo_42
1 March 2023 11:28 am

Since everyone is ranting about KC today, my take is this:

I think Kirk is a really good QB. He plays well enough and consistently enough to win the majority of games, which is what you want and need to win the big one. He has faults like all QB’s, but they are not extensive.

At some point, the Vikings do have to move on and find someone new, younger. Is it then that everyone who hates Kirk will realize the grass is always greener and likely be disappointed in some of their criticisms of Kirk and appreciate him more. But, everyone loves the prospect of greatness and improvement at the position, and we can’t have that until we get change. Therein lies the problem – can’t improve if we don’t try. But there is a lot of room for downside, which is what we will find out and see when we do move on, because I don’t think we’re lucky enough to walk into a rookie phenom. And then the QB will really lose us games and we’ll all appreciate Kirk more for at least a while. Hopefully we do get someone good moving forward, but that is less likely than a downgrade for possibly an extended period of time.

But we do need to bite the bullet at some point.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 11:29 am

Flagged for rational thought. That is not allowed here, especially when it comes to Cousins.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 11:32 am

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 11:34 am

Kirk is entering his age 35 season. Most QBs outside of Brady begin decline at that point and some quickly fall off a cliff quickly. Whether you think Kirk is good enough or not, the Vikings need to start succession planning.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 11:43 am

Personally, I think Cousins has 5 good years left in him. He takes great care of himself and as you noted Brady has played well into his 40’s.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 12:03 pm

2-3 IMO. Go for QB next year. Don’t need one this year

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 12:20 pm

I will say the longer a QB plays well in this league, the higher the price goes up to keep him. Cousins can “out price” himself. Look what the Packers did with Rodgers. The market rate for a seasoned QB who produces at a high level continues to climb. Obviously having a QB on a rookie deal that can match a seasoned pro’s production is the Holy Grail here. The thing is, teams reach for that (like the Redskins did with RGIII) and they end up being terrible for a decade.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:35 pm

That narrative seems to be the last gasp effort of Cousins detractors when they have to admit he’s actually a really good QB. He should take a pay cut.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:42 pm

I would also argue that almost everyone that complains about Kirk needing to take a pay cut, has never walked into their bosses office and said, “I’m overpaid can you please pay me less.”

JacksonVike
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 1:00 pm

But every company has limited funds to some extent. If my boss came to me and said that the business is not doing well, will you take a pay cut, I would probably say no and walk.

I definitely would not go to my boss and tell them since you seem to be making less money I will take a pay cut so your profit margins are better.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:52 pm

It’s a narrative that has been debunked many times.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 12:57 pm

What about the eagles?

had an MVP candidate in wentz.

won the SB.

got a new QB

and back in the SB within 5 years.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 12:59 pm

And I think they had guaranteed bradford some obscene money that year too.

FUGGIN eagles

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 1:03 pm

That is extremely lucky and unlikely to happen for us, and I think you know that. But I get your point that it CAN happen.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 2:10 pm

Yup.

I think roseman is a good gm.

he flipped some players for a higher pick as well in that wentz draft.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 3:02 pm

Oh, I agree. It’s going to hurt no matter when we do it. I just think the Kirk hate is generally unwarranted and this is a “be careful what you wish for” and “grass is always greener” situation, because it is likely going to suck for several years after he leaves.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 3:24 pm

Might suck, might not. Despite seemingly never having a long term answer at QB for so many years, the Vikings have never save like one season a decade at most, ever been a dumpster fire.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 11:57 am

I agree with this. I do however, also try to see the other side’s points. Kirk should be better in his 2nd year under the same OC for really the first time ever in MN right? Also if we sure up the defense a bit less will be asked of Kirk.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
1 March 2023 12:14 pm

Well Cousins was fourth in passing yards and tied fifth for passing TD’s this year, and has thrown 153 TD’s and almost 21,000 yards since becoming a Viking. So if he’s better than that it’s going to be an elite level of play. I mean really… Cousins could throw for 5,000 yards, 45 TD’s and complete 70% of his passes and folks here would say “yeah but what about that one throw where he missed JJ by 2 feet?”

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 12:02 pm

Noooo to rational!!!

Go for QB next year. Kirks got 2 good years left for sure.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 12:04 pm

Since everyone is ranting about KC today, my take is this:

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Wrenage
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 1:26 pm

Kirk’s all right, but all I care about is a Super Bowl at this stage. I don’t think he can get anyone through three playoff games, so he is expendable. He doesn’t have to be expendable immediately if no other decent options for improving the team exist.

No guarantee the next guy will be any good either, but I don’t mind that. Got to shoot your shots, and if Vikings win, cool. If they suck, well, I have zero issue shutting the games off and doing something else. I’m in the cornfield all October anyway.

I’m more about not getting stuck in ruts with the Vikings at this point. For example, if KOC and Kwesi don’t have us in the NFC Championship or very close to it by year three, they should not have a year four. Move on. There are only 32 NFL teams. There are always new options to explore.

And build the trenches, build the trenches, build the trenches. All moves serve the trenches and QB. Everything else should get in line.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Wrenage
1 March 2023 2:13 pm

I think you make some good points. If we had dominant or even good trenches, we probably wouldn’t be having the conversation about QB. Certainly with an average defense we would have went further this year, no doubt. That shouldn’t be held against him. He had a couple stinkers this year, but Kirk played well enough to win nearly every game this year. We can’t outshoot everyone, and he shouldn’t be held to the standard that we can/should do that.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  JRo_42
1 March 2023 2:16 pm

Can’t knock his grit, our O-line has let him get drilled many times. He gets up.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 3:08 pm

That’s a good point, but that also doesn’t mean other teams weren’t better than us that year. The best team doesn’t always win the super bowl. It also doesn’t mean the refs don’t screw us and favor certain teams heavily (a whole other issue altogether, which I think is just as big of a reason we haven’t won anyway as much as other factors, and likely why a SB just isn’t something I have realistic expectations of ever).

But I think it’s valid to say Kirk has improved since then in a few ways by different amounts, and he now has stability in areas he hasn’t in the past. He is plenty good to win consistently, and has certainly shown that this year.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 4:34 pm

Until the Vikings win and go deep into the playoffs GF. Our defense was crap, our O-line was crap, our running game was crap, our kicker was crap. The ONLY thing that wasn’t crap on the team was Cousins and the receivers. So let’s be honest. Winning 13 games wasn’t because our defense, O-line, running game, or kicker was great. It was because Cousins and the receivers were.

Mick
Mick
1 March 2023 11:24 am

I think tomorrow…. Everyone should switch sides of the Kirk argument…

so NVF will talk about how much he sucks… and KFEY can talk about how much he loves him.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 11:25 am

That would be fun just to switch it up a bit.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 11:26 am

Sounds like another good reason to be a fence sitter.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 11:26 am

I’m neutral, what do i do?

Mick
Mick
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 11:28 am

Poke the bears

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 11:28 am

You have to argue the extreme of both sides.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 11:58 am

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 12:03 pm

Lmao

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 12:22 pm

Well Mick, if Cousins sucked I would say so. The problem with that is, he’s a damn good QB.

KFEY93
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 12:25 pm

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KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:34 pm

Those animals are massive. Glad it was a semi and nothing smaller. Im sure it still jacked things up.

NoDakRube
1 March 2023 11:24 am

I am posting this to coincide with lunch break at the balloon factory..
There is so much ignorance regarding economics and how tax policy affects revenue.
This whole presentation is great but minutes 7 through 11:30 is really worth anyone’s time – although my expectations are low as to anyone watching it – thinking is hard.

Wrenage
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 12:26 pm

I watched and learned something.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Wrenage
1 March 2023 1:24 pm

Growth is the only evidence of life.

KFEY93
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 1:05 pm

I watched and found it very interesting. Thank you for sharing.

NoDakRube
Reply to  KFEY93
1 March 2023 1:24 pm

You are welcome…

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 2:41 pm

Yeah, but everyone needs handouts, and we need reparations, and there’s no way we could ever cut the ridiculous government spending and support to foreign countries by 10%….

stuman55
1 March 2023 11:04 am

Mick
Mick
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 11:20 am

stuman55
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 11:22 am

this the type of guy who sits on twitter all day calling people ugly mf’ers because they like guns

Mick
Mick
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 11:26 am

Yeah… I just put Fargoan in the gif box

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 11:34 am

I think that’s Jorge

stuman55
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 1:42 pm

LOL

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 11:28 am

Mick
Mick
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 11:33 am

Ben did too I see

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:55 am

Happened yesterday if you missed. @REPLACE KIRK@

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:56 am

They should just trade Kirk for 2024 draft picks, roll with Mullens and draft a QB high next year. High drafted QBs always work out.

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 11:15 am

solid advice.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 12:04 pm

Elite thinking

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:53 am

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:24 pm

Redskins have gone through 12 QB’s in 5 years since Cousins left.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:41 pm

Except Cousins was on that shit corrupt organization with a shitty corrupt owner for 6 years. It does have to do with Cousins. He made them competitive. The owner and team President hated him because he put so much egg on their faces for drafting RGIII. Bruce Allen didn’t want to pay him what he was worth and kept low balling him on contract offers which Cousins refused, forcing Allen to franchise tag him twice. Then the 3rd year the franchise tag was too much and Allen had to let him walk. Since then they have suffered through a plethora of QB’s that never remotely matched Cousins level of play.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:50 pm

He did. Note that the two years prior to Cousins taking over as the starter, the Redskins went 7-25. Since he left they are 32-49-1. So he put them on his back and made them better.

DE Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 3:36 pm

Redskins had one terrible year after Kirk left.
3-13. every other year, they were about .500

Overall, Kirk leaving left the Redskins in same position. Around .500

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  DE Viking
1 March 2023 4:37 pm

That’s why they’re 32 and 49-1 since he left… they’re really around .500.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:48 am

WTH????

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:50 am

It might just be time for another flood. Just start over.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 10:56 am

Extremely sad to see how broken the world is and kids involved too is even sadder.

HUNViking
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 11:15 am

Agreed. We have reached a point in the West that makes it necessary to just blow it all up and start over.

stuman55
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 11:04 am

oh stahp it’s totally just normal and fine there’s no gross fetish here that we are trying to noramlize

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 12:05 pm

Lifer likes it

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 5:35 pm

You should take your son….start him young.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 11:22 am

Hawt.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:43 am

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:45 am

MODEST.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 10:47 am

“Look, I’m answering questions about it because I got asked about it. I’m talking about it because it’s important to me. If you don’t like it and you think it’s drama, you think I’m being a diva or whatever, then just tune it out. That’s fine. But this is my life. It’s important to me, and I’ll make a decision soon enough and we’ll go down that road and be really excited about it.”

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:39 am

Basement leak update:

Looks like the tie rod was rusting out and causing a void in the poured foundation. Thought it was cinderblock, but guess not which is good. Guy dug it out and filled with epoxy for 400 bucks. All day baby, hopefully it holds

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:41 am

Basements suck.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 10:45 am

I love my walk out basement

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 10:47 am

Walk out not bad.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 11:15 am

My house was built in 1897. I bought it, next year found out the concrete in the basement was absolute shit. Had to repour the entire basement floor. But put in drain tile, a proper sump pump etc… They PVC plumbed the sump pump out. Last weekend I was in my basement where I keep all my music equipment (smart I know) and the sump pump wouldn’t turn off. The water was steaming hot. The PVC drainage outside was froze so the pump wasn’t turning off. Bought a new pump, etc… oof!

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
1 March 2023 11:19 am

Heard to many nightmares about basements. My garage is partially underground so i can hide in the case of a tornado.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 11:22 am

If we have a tornado I’m gonna ride it like Pecos Bill.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 11:25 am

NoDakRube
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
1 March 2023 11:30 am

Man that sucks…but it sounds like your electronics didn’t get ruined.

Our basement has had major water issues 4 times since we moved in 20 years ago. We have 2 sumps but no drain tile….I know drain tile would likely fix it but too cheap and stubborn to do it. We finally got smart enough to take the carpet out of the basement and put in water resistant tiling.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 12:00 pm

Yeah, the water didn’t actually back up just that it was literally like steaming hot, like almost burned to the touch when I was scooping water out lol.

So how is your sump pump fed without drain tile? When the guy redid the basement floor he discovered the sump pump I had whoever originally put it in basically poked it full of holes. The thing was always bone dry. Because water would seep in and then just go right back into the ground out the sump pump essentially not removing water away from the foundation.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
1 March 2023 1:37 pm

I am not an aquatic engineer. So not sure…both sumps run quite a bit though.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 4:10 pm

Hope that works long term for you. Water leaks stink, have had more than my fair share.

Surly Viking
Admin
1 March 2023 10:28 am

bowbunch
bowbunch
1 March 2023 9:16 am

We’re doomed

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 9:29 am

His mind has been gone for sometime now….its only they hardcore lefties who refuse to see it.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 9:36 am

I don’t know man, I think its getting worse…yes he has always been stupid..

JacksonVike
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 9:46 am

It has gotten worse, but he has been saying stupid crap like this his entire career.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 10:06 am

Absolutely right GF.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 10:57 am

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 11:15 am

stuman55
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 11:16 am

ben

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 11:31 am

stu

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 11:33 am

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No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 11:51 am

Cannot believe people voted for him.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 11:53 am

Voting base worsens by the day.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 11:54 am

I think it was the first time voting for a dem for a lot of them. They had to die first.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 11:55 am

I think most libs would have voted for a rock over Trump, speaking of which, a rock would probably make a better president than Biden

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 9:13 am

Dehop and JJ… now thats a trade I could get on board with

DE Viking
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:01 am

I’d be for it depending on the particulars

Mick
Mick
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:30 am

I feel like you said the opposite earlier LOL

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 10:37 am

That reminds of the Five flip flopping during the Jags Chargers playoff game

Mick
Mick
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 10:40 am

It was skolly or Brad if I recall.

said he’s was no good anymore… that’s why I think it was skolly.

not 100% sure though. I know I brought it up when this story first hit before the season ended and was poopoo’d on for it

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 10:40 am

I never said that about Hopkins lol. I said Murray sucks so thats why Dehop is down.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:56 am

I don’t know if I can search comments……… but I think you shot down the trade.

I can’t remember. Forgive me lad.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 11:03 am

You can search in the dashboard – under comments

ALSO look at the time stamp!

Mick
Mick
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 11:22 am

I’m on mobile.

so who was talking about it then?

maybe I’m just mickdumdum

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 11:23 am

AND HOW DO WE KNOW YOU DIDNT GO THROUGH AND DELETE YOUR HOT TAKES!!!

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 1:28 pm

LMAO i’m not 5

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 1:28 pm

CLICK THE PICTURE

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
1 March 2023 10:40 am

I just think Ramsey is meh.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 11:36 am

If you believe in PFF (I don’t, its bullshit) he’s still an elite CB.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 5:37 pm

Fuck no….good lord these nannies every time a new FA is set to hit the market…

OMG JALEN RAMSEY….HE’D LOOK GREAT IN PURPLE

OMG DEANDRE HOPKINS AND JJ UNSTOPPABLE…..

meanwhile defense gives up 40 a game we lose blame kirk rinse & repeat.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 9:11 am

This guy lost his first round pick status. Not sure if he was good or not, but ppl said he was a first rounder

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 9:32 am

Zero chance he drops out of the first round, he’s the highest rated player in the draft.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 9:49 am

And then he would be arrested/suspended. Speaking of arrested, has anything happened with Kamara lately?

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 10:12 am

Kamara drills that guy pretty good a few times on the ground in the second video. Also, what kind of hotel is that? Did you notice the room close to the camera in the second video? I’m guessing strip club?

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 4:17 pm

Pretty sure I read they were leaving a casino.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
1 March 2023 4:19 pm

That doesn’t look like casino workers coming out of that room. Looks more like girls that offer to go to your room with you and “fluff your pillow”.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 4:28 pm

Looks like there was a nightclub and a hotel in or near casino.

https://www.foxnews.com › sports › saints-alvin-kamara-…

Oct 14, 2022 — Las Vegas Police said the alleged attack happened Feb. 5 around 6 a.m. near an elevator at Drai’s nightclub outside the Cromwell Casino.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 9:54 am

The legal stuff will all be cleared up by then and he’ll issue some sort of statement through his agent that he’s sorry and blah blah blah, everything will blow over unless he actually contributed to the death, then he’s not getting drafted. Its better for him that it come out now vs. on draft night right before the draft starts like the Laremy Tunsil gas mask bong, or Josh Allen use of racial slurs tweets from when he was in HS. Kinda reminds of the La’el Collins deal back when he was drafted, though it appears here that Carter did something illegal for sure.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 9:58 am

My guess is they were racing, his friend crashed and he panicked.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 10:06 am

They were racing, the woman driving the other car had a BAC of .2 and was some sort of recruiting assistant for the university. Carter may also have been drinking but either way he panicked and left the scene before paramedics arrived. Stupid kids doing stupid things and making stupid decisions.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 10:20 am

Yeah not a good look either for the university employee To’o be out drinking at a strip cub with the students then driving a car racing them

GA Skol
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 10:16 am

Yeah, championship parade, strip club and then street racing. Guarantee they were all drunk.

GA Skol
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 12:36 pm

The staffer was driving. She had a BAC .192.

GA Skol
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 10:13 am

He’s being arrested for racing and reckless driving. They were racing leaving a strip club. The other car wrecked and the driver and passenger died. It was an OL and a recruiting staff member that died. Sounds like Jalen Carter was driving one of the cars and there is a 3rd potential car that they are trying to figure out now.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 10:41 am

Lied to the cops. Idk if its that easy

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:47 am

its ugly for the university as well so everyone involved will want it to get resolved quickly and move on.

GA Skol
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:09 am

I’d take him with the Vikes’ first round pick in a heartbeat.

https://tenor.com/view/jalen-carter-gif-27192144

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  GA Skol
1 March 2023 10:42 am

lol i don’t follow draft players to much. When it gets a little closer I’ll dabble a bit

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:48 am

Huskers have any players worth drafting this year?

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 10:52 am

Nobody really high and only three that got combine invites.

Trey Palmer WR
Travis Vokolek TE
Ochaun Mathis DL

Some other guys that likely will be low round picks or undrafted

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 11:24 am

Palmer was a good player, think he was mostly a slot guy, I wouldn’t mind the Vikings drafting him mid rounds. I do recall Mathis having a decent game against MN last season. I don’t know much about Vokolek, must be more of a blocking type TE I’d guess.

GA Skol
Reply to  GA Skol
1 March 2023 12:37 pm

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Lifer
Admin
Reply to  GA Skol
1 March 2023 5:40 pm

He’s the best player in this draft hands down and if he’s anywhere near pick 15 KAM should move up and draft him.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 9:10 am

Mick doesn’t have a hawt take question today?

NoDakRube
1 March 2023 8:43 am

Thats two days in a row where I have logged in and started commenting mistakenly on yesterdays thread.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 9:10 am

NoDakRube
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 9:31 am

Can you remove yesterdays thread when you post the new daily thread as a service to the senile among us?

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 10:58 am

This isn’t the Daily Gopher!

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 11:02 am

LOL. NoDak, if you see 500+ comments at 7:00 AM something is amiss.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 11:03 am

Hopefully it’s just because he’s on the wrong thread and not because something bad happened like Kirk getting suspended or something.

NoDakRube
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 11:18 am

Brains a little foggy in the morning…

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  NoDakRube
1 March 2023 11:23 am

I know the feeling.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 8:41 am

Morning little skollies

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 8:41 am

Love it

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 8:42 am

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norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:47 am

Another face that triggers me.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  norseman1
1 March 2023 11:40 am

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norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 11:41 am

LOL. Love it ben!

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 1:40 pm

One of my favorites

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 8:55 am

I was reading that this morning, the guy who got the most votes ran on a platform of public safety and reducing crime, almost like people don’t like all the historic levels of murdering, car jackings, etc. over the last 3 years or so.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:57 am

I can’t believe that worked for him. Beetlejuice said Chicago is one of the safest cities in the world.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 9:00 am

I am pretty surprised as well, usually the type of people that actually live in a big city aren’t smart enough to realize what is going on around them doesn’t match what the politician is saying.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 9:04 am

Yeah, people that live in places like Chicago can have some pretty crazy ideas….

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 9:08 am

Yeah, like “let’s abolish the police”.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 9:10 am

Good to see the radical left in Chicago get shutdown. Ppl finally waking up… slowly

DE Viking
Reply to  SkoIdiers
1 March 2023 10:05 am

I don’t think it will matter.
I assume a dem is getting elected.
Policy wise nothing will change.
Only the PR of the policy will change.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 9:12 am

or “guaranteed by at least 10, book it.”

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 9:09 am

Yep lol

stuman55
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 11:06 am

she said she lost because she’s a black woman in America…

As if she wasn’t just in that position for many years? How do people continue to buy this crap?

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 11:07 am

I don’t know. You’ll have to ask Lifer why he continues to eat it up and bow at the altar of the left.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 11:08 am

Cuz stupidity has taken over the country.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  stuman55
1 March 2023 11:40 am

Obviously the voters stopped buying into her bullshit, I think it was the census cowboy that did it. My goodness she’s creepy

stuman55
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 1:43 pm

no I think it’s only because they finally just now realized that she is a black woman. Only reason they wouldn’t pick her.

Wrenage
1 March 2023 7:09 am

Ah, March. It can still be a cruddy month, but at least it isn’t February.

Rob
Rob
Admin
1 March 2023 6:32 am

Radiohead shoutout

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 6:50 am

This should be tomorrows Video of the day…

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Lifer
Admin
1 March 2023 6:00 am
Rob
Rob
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 6:33 am

Bulk stats = garbage time

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 6:45 am

Wrong again Waldo…over his career he’s actually hurt his stats in garbage time.

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JacksonVike
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 6:48 am

If Tom Brady gets a bunch of yards or TDs while trailing in the second half of a game, but still loses it is considered a great effort at a comeback. If Kirk Cousins gets a bunch of yards or TDs while trailing in the second half of a game, but still loses it’s garbage time stats. Please explain the difference.

Again I am no Kirk apologist, I am simply a realist. I understand Brady and other “great QBs” tend to win more, but there has been a lot of games where the Vikings lose due to circumstances out of the offenses control.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
1 March 2023 6:54 am

Exactly…it’s all created perception when in reality the talent level’s are close. People love to hate Kirk and love to ball wash Tom it’s that simple.

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Rob
Rob
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Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 6:55 am

I always enjoy the excuses for Kirk

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 7:54 am

Laughing Rob… excuses? Excuses for what exactly?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 8:09 am

But what are those “excuses” for? Cousins is one of the best QB’s in the league despite those realities. He’s really good. So exactly what are you claiming these are excuses for? His production is outstanding.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 8:12 am

OHHHH so the ONLY person on the whole team responsible for that is Cousins. Bullshit.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 8:18 am

It sure sounded like it GF. 3 playoff appearances, one win… nuff said. HE needs to shit or get off the pot? Please. Stop this ridiculous narrative. Only three QB’s in the league have thrown more TD’s than Cousins since he joined the Vikings. Cousins does his job at a higher level than pretty much anyone else on the whole team.

benjammin
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Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 8:25 am

You forgot that all the coaches he has had suck

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 8:44 am

Just ignore GF, he has KDS…..

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 11:19 am

GF I am kidding….I should have used the sarcasm font.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 8:23 am

Correct, Kirk is basically the same level as Mahomes and Brady, its not his fault he doesn’t make the playoffs very often or win anything of substance.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:28 am

He played for the Redskins who were basically the worst team in football, and he actually won the NFC East with them and made them competitive in games. Then he comes to the Zimmerball hall of fame team, and again keeps them in games, gives them the lead in the 4th quarter, and watches the defense and the kicker fail. Please Ben, let’s be real here. Cousins does more than his fair share. Name the good part of this team. Defense? O-line? Running game? Kicking game? Nope, nope, and nope. What IS good is Cousins and the receivers. That’s it.

benjammin
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:43 am

Yeah, you’re right, in reality he’s better than Mahomes will ever be and better than Brady ever was, its not his fault he’s never realized any meaningful success.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:50 am

Hmmm name the bad team Mahomes ever played on… same with Brady. Oh yeah, last year Brady played on a bad team and they had a losing record. Now he’s retired.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:57 am

Like I said, not Kirk’s fault his teams are usually losers and at best mediocre/slightly above average, its all someone else’s, he’s better than Brady ever was.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 9:01 am

I think it’s impossible to say how good Cousins could have been on a good team. I mean he had one year with a good O-line and put up almost 5,000 yards. If he had a career of being on a good team every year like Brady was for 20 years in New England, with the same OC almost every year, what would his career look like? I don’t know. I do know on bad teams with bad O-lines and a different OC every year he’s one of the best in the league at scoring TD’s.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 9:05 am

Its easy to say, he’s obviously better than Mahomes and Brady so he’d have won all ten SBs with Pats and all 3 with Chefs, probably more in fact.

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 10:12 am

Thats a forigen concept to him. He did mention hes 70 or close to it. Maybe dementia is finally setting in?

Lifer
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 3:58 pm

Maybe the nannies here should pull those SB numbers for Mahomes when his oline sucked….oh that’s right it was FUCKING 0!

Rob
Rob
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Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 7:58 am

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 7:55 am

Captain Choke is more like it.
4th and 8. That is all.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Surly Viking
1 March 2023 8:02 am

Cousins had nothing on that play Surly. Nothing. His line failed and the play call itself was shit. I get it, you hate Cousins for no good reason and will push irrational arguments out ad nauseum. The fact is though, Cousins is one of the best QB’s in the league, and certainly the most productive QB in Vikings history.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 8:11 am

None of whom he could have possibly gotten the ball to. Be real. He was working JJ who wasn’t even looking for the ball and was bracketed and had a safety over the top, and then the line caved and Cousins got the ball out as he was getting hit.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 8:20 am

Me too and clearly Cousins cannot get the ball to anyone but Hock on that play.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:27 am

He could easily have thrown it to someone else.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:43 am

He could not have at all.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:44 am

Easily could have

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:46 am

No way

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:48 am

Are you trying to say Kirk doesn’t have the ability to throw 20 yards downfield? Strange considering you think he’s the 2nd best QB in history.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:53 am

No… what the heck are you talking about? IF there was a play to be made there Cousins would have made it. He had no chance to do anything but get the ball to Hock as he was getting hit.

JacksonVike
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 9:39 am

If he throws it to anyone else, that is covered, and Gnats get the interception, the haters would be saying “I can’t believe he just chucked it up, he had Hock open underneath, just get it to him he would have gotten the extra yards”

KFEY93
Reply to  JacksonVike
1 March 2023 10:15 am

Incorrect and you know it. He chose the safe play, regardless if it ended the season or not and you know it. Take his jock out of your mouth and reassess please. If he would have chucked it up I would have said, hey, we went down swinging, and he took a chance, thats all you can ask. Then we can focus the blame on the defense. But he didnt. The mental gymnastics of Kirk stans is astounding.

benjammin
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Reply to  JacksonVike
1 March 2023 10:36 am

False, he should have done what he did in the 4th quarter against Buffalo and just say fuck it, and throw it up to JJ in double coverage and give him a chance to make a play. Why he did that in the Buffalo game, but chose not to in the playoff game I will never understand.

HUNViking
Reply to  JacksonVike
1 March 2023 11:06 am

Exactly.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:48 am

The guys in blue jerseys are “someone else
.”

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:26 am

That’s funny, Fran is in the HOF, which Kirk will never sniff

certainly the most productive QB in Vikings history.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:42 am

Fran is in the HoF but he never was a very productive QB. Different era for sure, but Fran threw 239 TD’s in 177 games. Cosins has thrown 252 TD’s in 142 games (137 starts). Why is Fran in the HoF? He was a very exciting player to watch. Cousins may or may not end up in the HoF but he is still by far and away the most productive QB of all time for the Vikings.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:44 am

That’s one of the dumbest comparisons I’ve ever heard. The game was almost a different sport in the 60s and 70s compared to the 2010s and 2020s.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:48 am

Yes, I highlighted it was a different era… but in today’s NFL… only three other QB’s have thrown more TD’s than Cousins in the last five seasons. That’s real, that’s current, and he’s the most productive QB in Vikings history. Period.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 8:52 am

LOL and he has jack shit to show for it, all his bulk stats have ever done is get him paid, which hey, good for him.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 12:04 pm

I’d say you hit the nail on the head. Cousins has produced at a very high level, but unfortunately the rest of the team has not. Thus the Vikings have not been great. They have been competitive, and lost a shit ton of close games, but they have not been great. They’re not a great team. Great teams win championships. Remember that time Tom Brady intercepted Russell Wilson at the goal line to win the Super Bowl???

JacksonVike
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 9:43 am

The reason Fran is in the HoF, is more due to the fact that Fran changed the way the QB position is played. At the time of Fran there were very few mobile QBs.

I am not saying that Kirk is comparable to Fran, as a Viking, as I have never seen Fran play.

Surly Viking
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
1 March 2023 10:23 am

Cousins is one of the best QB’s in the league,

Not even top 10.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Surly Viking
1 March 2023 10:27 am

#1 in our hearts and according to Kwesi he sufficiently meets the threshold of a good level quarterback.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 10:30 am

I’d say he takes a inordinate amount of heat with a shit defense and O-line where traffic cones would be more effective.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 10:40 am

Kirk is a good QB.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 10:49 am

I’m just prodding both sides to amuse myself. I’m pretty much meh on Cousins. One could say I’m Cousins about Cousins.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Surly Viking
1 March 2023 8:51 am

LOL, throwing for 2 yards on 4th and 8

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No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:55 am

Now that’s what I call an intellectual commentary…

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 8:05 am

Yay, we get to start the day with a Cousins debate. I’m sure there will be new information brought to the table and everybody will end up agreeing.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 8:32 am

I don’t know why the fuck people come in here every day and start the stupid fucking Kirk debate again. Every fucking morning there’s some stupid post slobbering on Kirk’s cock saying how he’s the best QB in the NFL at some stupid cherry picked stat and then a whole bunch of other comments come with some other stupid cherry picked stat about how he’s a piece of shit and sucks at life and is a horrible griller. Its starting to get a bit old.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:33 am

It is predominantly Lifer that starts it since he leaves for most of the day anyway. Just throws a grenade in the door and walks away.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 8:38 am

Yeah, NVF does the same thing sometimes too, just comes in and posts some stupid shit about Kirk. I’m just tired of the whole discussion, feel like I can post this everyday

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Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 10:25 am

We know the discussion will end soon.
Once Kirk’s HOF agent gets him a shiny new extension, we will know how many more years this team wallows in “Just above average”.

Captain Kirk, the King of “Average”

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Surly Viking
1 March 2023 12:06 pm

Fourth most passing TD’s in the league since joining the Vikings… hard to believe you think that is average.

Rob
Rob
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 8:44 am

It was me today

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 10:21 am

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 10:23 am

You replied to Lifer’s post about Cousins. You were the first to take the bait and/or egg it on, but it was inevitable after the tweet was posted.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 10:30 am

I always end up taking the bait too, I will flog myself later.

Rob
Rob
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:44 am

Because it’s fun 😃

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 8:45 am

“fun”

Rob
Rob
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:46 am

No kink shaming

Rob
Rob
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 8:47 am

He sucks at grilling

edited, I don’t need to be an asshole

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 10:16 am

I will celebrate very much the day he is off the roster. Thats all I can say.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
1 March 2023 10:21 am

Once the Vikings have a different QB than Cousins, I will again attend a game and have hope. Until then, they will collapse over and over.

DE Viking
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 10:06 am

Always a qualifier to make the stat seem impressive. “Since 2018”

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  DE Viking
1 March 2023 11:56 am

The qualifier makes it relevant to Vikings.

KFEY93
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 10:11 am

I mean..he isnt lol. He hasnt won anything of note in his entire football career. Not even in Higschool or College. This tweet doesnt mean shit lol

Rob
Rob
Admin
1 March 2023 5:52 am

Wentz Gets Cut

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 5:55 am

No

Lifer
Admin
1 March 2023 5:19 am

Yeah…let’s have a conversation about grooming children. Been going on for years in this country with organized religion and why we have generations of maladjusted grievance filled adults.

https://twitter.com/imposter_edits/status/1630436668535652354?s=61&t=MSJjCAC7RYtUNOadOBqDvw

NoDakRube
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 7:23 am

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

We have grievance filled adults due to a lack of spirituality, not because of it.

Exhibit A: Lifer.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 8:36 am

So raising children to believe in a higher power is the same as grooming children so you can rape them, sound about right for the extremist lib logic.

Also, you’re describing yourself to a T.

maladjusted grievance filled adults.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Gone fishin'
1 March 2023 9:59 am

For sure. What’s next, thou shalt not steal? Radicals I tell ya, radicals.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 3:55 pm

Who has raped more children, libs or the Catholic Church?

Thought so.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 4:28 pm

Libs but what Catholic Church has done is indefensible.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
1 March 2023 5:41 pm

I will rape you fat boy for this lie.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 8:43 pm

lololol

KFEY93
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 10:18 am

So you would rather this kid go read about Gender Identity and then get his privates mutilated ant throw a dress on him and tell him he’s a woman then going to church. You’re fucked dude. Get help.

stuman55
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 11:08 am

Lol, you buffoon and those you follow, like teaching religion is the same as teaching little kids about but seks and bjs lol

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 3:55 pm

Just the intellectual responses I’d hoped for.

Lifer
Admin
1 March 2023 5:09 am

I don’t see how KAM doesn’t trade back from 23. It completely opens up his day two options that would be closed otherwise if he picks a player at 23 unless he trades future picks which is an option.

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Rob
Rob
Admin
1 March 2023 3:45 am

First

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Rob
1 March 2023 4:51 am

Is it just me or does that beagle have Rodgers eye’s?

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bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 7:58 am

Somebody seems to have a thing for Rodgers when you’re seeing him in pictures of dogs.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 8:18 am

I think I do…I just can’t quit him man.

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
1 March 2023 8:46 am

He is either on something or onto something.

Hercdriver
Reply to  Lifer
1 March 2023 12:26 pm

No, I don’t think it does, because I do not feel an almost irrational need to punch it in the face.

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Gone fishin'

Gone fishin'

I'm a dad, husband, Army vet, believer, and a die-hard, life-long Vikings fan from the great state of North Dakota. I've been a Viking fan dating back to 1980, I've been covering the Vikings for nearly a decade, and I founded Skoloholics in 2022. I work in real estate and property management, I love spending time with family, working in the yard, doing anything in the outdoors, and as you can tell from my username, I love fishing. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!

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