Minnesota Vikings Discussion-SkolAsylum: 04 February 2025

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I read an interesting comment by freezeface yesterday. The Vikings have a ton of money tied up in the tight end position, with T.J. Hockenson carrying a $16.85 million cap hit in 2025, and Josh Oliver carrying a cap hit of just over $9.4 million. While Oliver was brought in mainly as a blocker, Hockenson was supposed to be an elite playmaking talent at the position. Last year, Hock compiled only 455 receiving yards in 11 games, an average of just over 40 yards a game. Does that production justify his $16.85 million cap hit? I don’t think so. What can be done? Well, not a whole lot. With the guaranteed money in his contract, along with restructure bonus, releasing him would cause a dead cap hit of over $28 million, and trading him would cause a dead cap hit of $18 million. That dead cap could be partially allocated to 2026 if done after June 1st, but the dead cap would still be significant, so I don’t see that happening.

They could move Oliver and save either $5 million or $8 million in 2025, depending on whether it’s after June 1, but they would still incur over $4 million in dead cap. The moves make sense, considering their production, or lack thereof. However, moving Hock makes little financial sense, and losing Oliver’s blocking ability would make a weak O-line even weaker. I do agree with Freezey 100% that spending $26 million on two tight ends is a LOT of money, and the Vikings are not getting much return on that investment. However, it looks like they’re stuck with much or all of that poor investment for at least another year. Hopefully Hock can bounce back in 2025 and make his contract more palatable.

Game Room Update

The fam and I got more done on the game room, here’s our progress.

Vikings News

Vikings.com looks at next-gen stats, the Vikings offensive gains in 2024, and a to-do list for 2025.

NFL News

Myles Garrett requested a trade from the Browns, and CBS Sports looks at logical landing spots for the defensive end.

From Fox News, anger (and lies) from Roger Goodell, who doesn’t like hearing people speculating about the Chiefs being helped to the Super Bowl by the NFL. Crooks always hate to hear people expose them.

Media Selection

Here’s a great one from AJ and Hecklefish at the Why Files. I found this one fascinating, I hope you do, too!

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No longer New Vikings Fan
5 February 2025 9:16 am

In looking at the Vikings performance over the regular season, there was a lot of good. The defense was 16th in yards allowed per game, which of course is average, but they were 5th in points allowed. The defense allowed the 5th most passing yards per game, but we led the league by a wide margin in interceptions (24).

The offense was 12th in the league in yards per game. They were 6th in the league in passing yards per game, and 19th in rushing yards per game. They were 9th in the league in points scored per game.

Fundamentally the team played great complimentary football, which allowed us to win an awesome 14 games. Our last two games though, we were pretty weak. The offense especially. I think this coming season, we should be able to contend again.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
5 February 2025 9:34 am

Good solid football. But in my opinion if they want to ‘travel’ better in the playoffs they have to develop a better running game.

freezeyface
Reply to  JRobert
5 February 2025 9:37 am

a better run game and generate more pressure from the Dline (IMO)

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  freezeyface
5 February 2025 9:39 am

That too for sure.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
5 February 2025 9:43 am

I agree. Another interesting fact is, we were 10th in the league in first downs, but a whopping 43 of them were by penalty, which led the league. We got a lot of help from the ref’s even in the last two games against the Lions and the Rams. We had 4 first downs by penalty in each of those games.

No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 6:20 pm

Some Federal Bureau of Investigation agents are suing the Justice Department to block them from compiling the list of agents who worked on the anti-Trump cases that have engulfed the bureau for years. 

Of course, the agents who filed this legal action remain anonymous. Such a deep-state move shows the FBI is in total panic mode. There’s nothing they can do to stop this action. They can delay, but this is going to happen.  The Dem’s will sue Trump for unlawful retaliation for what? If the agents were innocent, there would be no reason to “retaliate”.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 6:41 pm

And then there’s the FBI agents rifling thru Milania’s panty drawer.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
4 February 2025 6:54 pm

Looking for classified souvenirs.

Surly Viking
Admin
4 February 2025 4:42 pm

Since it is still Tuesday,

A reminder that the Vikings won 14 games with Sam Darnold at QB.

Addition by subtraction. By losing Kirko’s salary demands and also Hunter, the team had funds to upgrade the defense, and Sam Darnold led the team to more wins that Kirko can dream about, even as a clipboard holder.

I wonder where he will want to retire next? Redskins/Vikings/Falcons….

Browns? Raiders?

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
4 February 2025 5:08 pm

He will retire with whoever pays him the most.

bowbunch
Admin
4 February 2025 3:27 pm

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 3:30 pm

HUH?!!! I thought it was cocaine in WH! Boy, i’m a loser.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 3:55 pm

They were just being ‘Good Germans’ and following the orders that they were given.
After what they did to those FBI whistleblowers I really can’t blame them.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 4:30 pm

So I guess you sort of blindly go along. Just like the lawyers at the DOJ. Everyone was just doing their job.
There’s a saying – if you’re going to get the King you better get him.
So all these agents and the lawyers did everything to destroy Trump, his family and followers.
They failed!
This King survives and is now stronger and more powerful than ever.
Do they expect Trump to come to town and give them a kiss on the check?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
4 February 2025 4:40 pm

Watching the Whistleblowers and thinking of going what they went thru with their families I think of the old saying ‘It is difficult sticking to your guys when they are pointed back at you’.
I like to think I would do the ‘right thing’ but that is a lot of suffering that they went thru. Glad I was never in a situation that bad to find out.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 4:44 pm

Sort of like the Army and following a ‘lawful order.’
Are parents at school board meetings really Domestic Terrorists.?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
4 February 2025 4:52 pm

Well if they were threatening the Board Members like The DOJ and FBI alleged then maybe.
If they were just venting their frustrations and trying to get answers and get some changes made than they were absolutely not Domestic Terrorists.
I believe the 2nd one is what happened.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 4:55 pm

Even if they are threatening Board Members they are not domestic terrorists. They are just law breakers.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
4 February 2025 6:33 pm

Agreed, Crossing a line from from venting to threatening does not make them Terrorists.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 5:02 pm

That Meeting was in Loudon County, VA (been there).
The School Board started allowing students to ‘chose your sex’ and use whatever bathroom they wanted. A guy, claiming he was a girl, went to the girl’s and raped and beat up a female student.
The school Board covered the entire incident up and with held information from the police.
The Father of the girl went to the board meeting, exposed the truth and raised hell. He was the start of the domestic terrorists.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
4 February 2025 6:32 pm

I understood all of that.
If School Board members were threatened that crosses a line.
It is what they were accused of.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 6:39 pm

Damn right the Father threatened them as would any Father. but that is not a crime of domestic terrorism.
And the SchoolBoard actually covered up a crime and lied to local authorities. FBI didn’t give a rats about that though.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
4 February 2025 6:52 pm

I would be threatening them with Legal Action and wishing I could do more to them.
Those Rats deserved any bad things that happens to them.

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 5:11 pm

How many of those were actually instigating a

An erection?
“insurrection”?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 5:25 pm

It’s almost unbelievable how corrupt the Dem’s have made the Government. Deep state? Yes.

bowbunch
Admin
4 February 2025 2:41 pm

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 2:45 pm

Haha yeah, they’re not taking directives to help certain teams win…. Perhaps it’s not the same teams every week, but go ahead and watch the 2009 NFC Championship and tell me the game isn’t extremely rigged.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JRo_42
4 February 2025 2:47 pm

Also, then why isn’t every game-changing call reviewable? If they care so much about getting things right, why don’t they work to do it? Also, they often get reviewed calls wrong (in obvious ways). How does that happen? RIGGED.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  JRo_42
4 February 2025 2:51 pm

You type faster.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  JRo_42
4 February 2025 2:50 pm

It’s the blatant stuff that pisses me off. How do they first, Miss facemask in endzone on Sam with a ref about 5 yards away? And sadly, some game changing things not reviewable. I will watch SB, perhaps with more interest in officiating.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  norseman1
4 February 2025 2:55 pm

Yep, stuff like that facemask is inexcusable. At best, extreme incompetence (not putting out acceptable product). At worst, cheating and corruption.

HUNViking
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 4:00 pm

That’s not what they’re doing. But they very clearly are influencing games to support certain storylines. Like that time when they took Cashman’s TD away. Vikes didn’t even really try after that, they knew they weren’t allowed to win the game.

Be that as it may, where there’s smoke, there’s fire. And more and more people seem to notice this. Good.

Yore Mom
Reply to  HUNViking
5 February 2025 9:33 am

That’s not what they’re doing. But they very clearly are influencing games to support certain storylines.

Officials give calls to the superstars in every sport. It’s up to the league to curb and/or correct it (if they want to).

Be that as it may, where there’s smoke, there’s fire. And more and more people seem to notice this. Good.

I don’t expect anything to change as long as the money keeps rolling in for the NFL.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 4:42 pm

So they are saying that they are incompetent not currupt?

Yore Mom
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
5 February 2025 9:35 am

Too many subjective rules for action that’s too fast for the live human eye IMHO.

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 5:13 pm

Here comes a report detailing massive referee corruption in 3..2..1..

DE Viking
4 February 2025 2:35 pm

Bye Bye….
Fandamtastic

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 2:41 pm

So much winning.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 2:41 pm

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 2:48 pm

Dem’s response: Trump drives unemployment rates to all time highs.

MT Viking
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 2:56 pm

Huh. Some ICE agents here to see me. Wonder what they want?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 3:00 pm

Sending you to Artic Circle MT.

MT Viking
Reply to  norseman1
4 February 2025 3:03 pm

Fishing is probably pretty good.

NoDakRube
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 3:05 pm

I TOLD YOU to put a Trump Flag up.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 3:28 pm

Swing over to MN and Ihlan can help you

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 3:31 pm

POS.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  norseman1
4 February 2025 4:32 pm

She your Rep?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  JRobert
4 February 2025 4:39 pm

She’d be heading to Guantanamo if i was in charge.

MT Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 4:08 pm

Only in Minnesota…

DE Viking
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 5:18 pm

Guantanamo Bay has nice weather.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 3:31 pm

More winning

KFEY93
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 3:47 pm

Ehhh except that position is pretty superficial and doesn’t hold a lot of weight. The CIA, FBI, etc. Can still do what they want and there’s not a damn thing she could do about it, she still takes orders. Its just a spot they can put her where they can keep an eye on her.

Yore Mom
Reply to  KFEY93
4 February 2025 3:49 pm

DE Viking
4 February 2025 1:22 pm

I don’t think there is room for him in the receiver room.

MT Viking
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 1:24 pm

Please no. Upgrade OL, DL, CB.

NoDakRube
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 1:30 pm

Yes.

DE Viking
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 1:40 pm

Yep.
Build the trenches this year.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 1:50 pm

Those need to be the priority.
If they can do that and still get Kupp as a #3 (price appropriate) I would be ok with that.

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 2:56 pm

Is it within the rules to sign Thielen to a cheap one year contract, dress him in a #18 jersey in blackface, while our new UDFA signing dressed in a #19 jersey who just happens to look a lot like Jefferson lines up on the other side of the field?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 2:59 pm

Panthers would try and trade. He turns 35. I’m not giving up draft capital.

Northwoods
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 2:14 pm

But if we trot 10 super-skilled targets out on the field for our QB to choose from we won’t even NEED an OL.

DE Viking
4 February 2025 1:16 pm

I sure hope JJ ignored the last two weeks of the season.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 1:17 pm

I hope he learned a lot from the last two weeks of the season.
Mainly what not to do.

Yore Mom
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 1:33 pm

(in the same vane of what SoCal posted)
I hope he learns from Sam’s mistakes.

norseman1
norseman1
4 February 2025 1:02 pm

Trump. The Tariff Sheriff. I like it.

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 1:08 pm

They also reported that Trump caved to Mexico and Canada.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 1:10 pm

Yup, 2 weeks in and they forget everything of the last 4 years.

Yore Mom
Reply to  norseman1
4 February 2025 1:12 pm

They got y’all to look and react.

JacksonVike
4 February 2025 12:58 pm

Checked my credit card account today, and the restaurant my wife and I went to last night charged over $1100 for our $37 meal. I started to freak out and then I saw a credit to the card as well. Did the math and everything came out even.

Yore Mom
Reply to  JacksonVike
4 February 2025 1:14 pm

WTF?! I’d avoid a place that makes a 2,973% error. 😳

JacksonVike
Reply to  Yore Mom
5 February 2025 7:41 am

I’m sure they just fat fingered the total, it was corrected right away, so not an issue.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JacksonVike
4 February 2025 2:40 pm

Where did you eat?

MT Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
4 February 2025 2:54 pm

I want to know, too. Jackson must look like a high roller, I’ll eat the steak and lobster (tariffs be damned) and point to his table and say, “just put it on his tab”.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 2:58 pm

Just put it on his tab. *points*

Sea Bass said that?

Well, if that guy at the table over there is Sea Bass….

MT Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
4 February 2025 3:08 pm

Glad you got the reference!

KFEY93
Reply to  JacksonVike
4 February 2025 3:48 pm

You should have the app for the card and notifications that way every time the card is charged you get a notification for what and how much in real time. Can catch that before you even leave the restaurant.

bowbunch
Admin
4 February 2025 12:50 pm

Hey guys, when it’s icy out you should slow down and leave plenty of room to the car in front of you or you might hit a patch of ice and rear end the guy sitting at the stoplight. Just an FYI.

JacksonVike
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 12:51 pm

Were you the rammed or the rammer?

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
4 February 2025 12:54 pm

Rammed. Not bad, just a dented bumper, but stupid. Luckily the guy had insurance.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 12:55 pm

I am smart enough to slow the hell down when it’s icy out. I do wish I would have bought that second dashcam for the back window though now.

JacksonVike
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 12:56 pm

I figured, you seem like an overly cautious person.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 1:08 pm

Did he park the wrong way on the street after that?

Mjolnir
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 2:54 pm

He was just driving fast and taking chances……

Yore Mom
Reply to  Mjolnir
4 February 2025 3:15 pm

Let Jesus take the wheel.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JacksonVike
4 February 2025 1:22 pm

I much prefer to be the rammer rather than the rammee….but to each is own.

Yore Mom
Reply to  NoDakRube
4 February 2025 1:34 pm

No kink shaming.

freezeyface
Reply to  NoDakRube
4 February 2025 1:42 pm

i remember when Kfey said he wanted to be the catcher….not the pitcher…

still makes me laugh to this day

Northwoods
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 12:57 pm

OK Boomer. Kids these days don’t need you taking away their freedom to do whatever the hell they want.

Northwoods
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 12:57 pm

Glad you’re ok

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 12:59 pm

Space and visibility is one of 10 UPS safe driving rules. I’d say it’s ignored to a great extent out there.

Yore Mom
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 1:16 pm

when it’s icy out you should slow down and leave plenty of room to the car in front of you or you might hit a patch of ice and rear end the guy sitting at the stoplight.

But but butt…I have 4-wheel drive.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Yore Mom
4 February 2025 1:26 pm

The problem is that it is 4-wheel DRIVE, not 4-wheel STOP.

Yore Mom
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 1:34 pm

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Yore Mom
4 February 2025 1:38 pm

4-wheel drive will get you out of the ditch but it won’t keep from ending up into the ditch to begin with.

Northwoods
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 2:07 pm

And if you go in the ditch already in 4WD, your chances of getting out without help are very slim.

Yore Mom
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 3:15 pm

All gas no brakes!

MT Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 1:36 pm

I love Billings traffic. Bunch of toe heads.

Yore Mom
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 1:38 pm

Bunch of toe heads.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 1:38 pm

Well in Billings’ defense this guy was from Denver. He was just heading home. Also broke his collar bone this weekend. I’m sure driving with one arm had nothing to do with it though.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 2:07 pm

Solid advice.

Northwoods
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 2:08 pm

That’s right. What you can’t see can’t hurt you.

Northwoods
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 12:07 pm

Customer Disservice is a blast, eh?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 1:14 pm

I like the “press 1 for English”. They transfer and you can’t understand a GD word.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 12:26 pm

Customer Support at all of these large companies is 90% computer bot, 9% real people that can’t really do anything to help and 1% slightly helpful. To get any real help you have to be kicked up about 3 to 5 levels. Then it is still a crapshoot.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 12:47 pm

Yeah, I have the 365 sub as well, and hate using one drive.
I download things locally whenever possible.
Google storage is an option, but they also suck @ss

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 1:24 pm

I heard China might have some cool IT solutions.

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 3:50 pm

Uninstall and reinstall the app. They changed how you take picutres now. Make a new folder, click the plus sign, then hit the Scan option under Add New. Your camera should open up then you should be able to scroll to the right and select photo.

No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 10:56 am

So the Browns announced they have no intention of trading Miles Garrett, who came out and said he wanted to be traded. I think there are really only a few teams that would seriously pursue Garrett though. Those would be the Redskins, Falcons, Bears, Packers, Chargers, and Cardinals.

Garrett has said he wants to win a Super Bowl, so which of those teams do you think he would have the best shot to accomplish that with?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:04 am

Yep. Offense is close and need a stud on the defense.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 12:48 pm

Agree with Redskins. I like their offense, and with the OC staying, I see good things there.

DE Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 10:59 am

The only teams that are serious superbowl contendas are Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Eagles and possibly the 49ers.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 10:59 am

Lots of playoff teams in that list.
Which is the gooder option? Everyone has an opinion……

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 11:02 am

Now that the Falcons have upgraded their QB position they should be pretty good.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 11:13 am

Hmmm… 50th in completion percentage, and 47th in the league in passer rating? Yeah, stellar.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 11:13 am

Still a huge upgrade over Kirko

NoDakRube
Reply to  Surly Viking
4 February 2025 11:22 am

uh…no.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  NoDakRube
4 February 2025 11:34 am

Well it is Tuesday after all.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 12:48 pm

Happy Tuesday!

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 2:37 pm

Not sure what you’re talking about. Anyway, I saw two Falcons games this year. The Bucs game here in Tampa, where Cousins played lights out, and the Vikings game, where he was not very good.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 2:46 pm

QB play does not affect whether the team wins or loses.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 2:49 pm

Wrong… good QB play helps teams win, bad QB play helps teams lose.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 4:39 pm

So a QB with an average record over his career, is maybe just Average? Even with a HOF agent?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Surly Viking
4 February 2025 5:22 pm

A QB on terrible teams with great production stats? Average? Yeah, you have some postulating to do.

Yore Mom
Reply to  Surly Viking
5 February 2025 9:37 am

So a QB with an average record over his career, is maybe just Average?

Yore Mom
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 1:20 pm

Browns announced they have no intention of trading Miles Garrett

They are already 30MM over the cap for next season. They would take another 36MM dead cap hit trading Myles before 6/1. They’ll either gut the roster or void the serial sexxx offender’s contract somehow.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 2:07 pm

Guy shouldn’t be on any team…. Remember when he tried to kill Mason Rudolph with his helmet, made up a lie about some racial stuff to try to get out of trouble, and had basically zero consequences to it all? Guy should be on the commissioner’s “exempt list” for eternity, or in jail.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  JRo_42
4 February 2025 2:17 pm

Yea had forgotten hat incident. Let him go play for the Saints.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
4 February 2025 2:18 pm

He’d fit in Detroit or Denver too.

Northwoods
4 February 2025 10:44 am

Late to the dance on the GPS discussion yesterday.

The major issue with establishing a GPS tracking system to spot the ball is that current technology is only accurate down to 5-16 feet in open sky situations.

The officials get it much closer than that.

Perhaps something along the lines of a metal detector, with the detection grid installed just under the turf surface, and a foil lining inside the ball? Sounds a bit expensive.

The military likely has something much more advanced than GPS that they don’t want to share.

DE Viking
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 10:55 am

5-16 feet accuracy?
Really? That’s it?

If there really is no technology that gets it any better, than technology isn’t even an option for spotting the ball.

Northwoods
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 11:00 am

That’s using existing near-earth orbit satellites. I would think you can get it dialed in much closer with a network of scanners strung over the field, but now you’re talking price escalation, which will be passed on to John Q. Ticketbuyer.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 11:02 am

And you’re not talking GPS then.

MT Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 11:17 am

Lasers, baby!

JacksonVike
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 12:31 pm

but now you’re talking price escalation, which will be passed on to John Q. Ticketbuyer.

The NFL don’t care.

Northwoods
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:01 am

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bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:14 am

I love the company that replies to posts about bad calls and offers free lasik to all NFL refs.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:01 am

For GPS, not really. They have other microchip technology that would work better. There are actually a bunch of settings on a handheld GPS that need to be activated to achieve this level of accuracy. I think the last I heard was that GPS units with the typical settings are actually only 30 yards, no matter what it tells you on the screen.

Northwoods
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 11:37 am

I used to use a Garmin Etrex, one of the lower models, for finding waypoints when I was fishing. It gave me an accuracy measurement based on how many satellites it locked on to. It got down to 3 feet (at least that’s what it told me) when you locked on to 7-8 satellites.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 12:53 pm

That’s what it says, but I know as of a few years ago that was malarkey and it was never more than 30 yards, at least per the courts and what Garmin would actually say in court. There are ways to make it more accurate. You have to turn on a thing that uses ground satellites or something to account for terrain and curvature of the earth but I can’t remember what the setting is called. Need to make sure your map datum is consistent as well or you can be off by 100+ yards if you try to go from one mapping system to another.

Northwoods
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 12:59 pm

Wait……curvature of the Earth? You mean it isn’t flat, or are you talking about the edge?

pirateflip
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 3:01 pm

Excellent discussion starter. What does Edge have to do with it?

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:10 am

I would think some tech like what Tennis uses on the lines to call balls in or out.
There has to be something like that available to try.

Northwoods
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 11:31 am

That’s line-of-sight tech, though. You don’t get 7 bodies in a pile blocking the view in tennis.

It would be much more funner to watch though……

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 11:35 am

And even if you had perfect field position location from GPS or whatever, how do you reconcile the most ‘forward’ position with when the knee hit the ground and forward body lean of the ball carrier.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
4 February 2025 11:58 am

Stop making logical points.

The dye has been cast.
We need technology.

Yore Mom
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 1:25 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

while those for high-end applications such as engineering and land surveying are accurate to within 2 cm (3⁄4 in) and can even provide sub-millimeter accuracy with long-term measurements.

Yore Mom
Reply to  Yore Mom
4 February 2025 1:28 pm

Other technologies may be as accurate or faster…

Northwoods
Reply to  Yore Mom
4 February 2025 2:12 pm

Land surveying…….I think that would take too long.

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Yore Mom
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 3:18 pm

As long as it takes to do a review?
Asking for a friend.

Yore Mom
Reply to  Northwoods
4 February 2025 3:19 pm

And that dude is already holding a downs stick.

bowbunch
Admin
4 February 2025 10:06 am

I think this might be my new favorite proposal.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 10:10 am

What proposal is that Bow?

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 10:11 am

I fixed it.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 10:25 am

Add it to the list.
USAID and Dept of Education go first.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 10:30 am

USAID is totally corrupt. Not just mismanaged… corrupt.

freezeyface
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 10:33 am

oh that’s just all the hesaid shesaid usaid stuff

JacksonVike
Reply to  freezeyface
4 February 2025 10:35 am

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 10:29 am

I doubt this passes, but some reform is needed. Like every other Government Agency, OSHA is bloated, and over time, enacted so many rules and policies for workforce protection, that it’s become truly burdensome. Every time some workforce incident or accident occurred, OSHA brought in new policies, procedures, and requirements, to counter what happened. Just a good idea, gone awry.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 10:35 am

Inspectors will flat out admit that if they show up for a random inspection they have to find something to cite you for. We got cited once because there were paperwork errors. They talked to some of our guys and said they are doing everything right, but the paperwork doesn’t say they are. They would rather the paperwork be right and you do whatever you want than worry about actually dangerous situations. I could go on and on on this one. Some rules/expectations are ok, but the OSHA manual is like 3 inches thick. Hold negligent companies accountable but there doesn’t need to be a massive agency rolling around nitpicking businesses with perfect safety records. One of the things they said they were specifically looking for last time? Extension cords. Any extension cord that looked like it might be used for more than very short term use.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 10:47 am

Indeed. Paperwork issues are one of the biggies. Organizations must hire people and pay them to keep up with the OSHA requirements, which change constantly. Different forms almost every year, new policies, new equipment requirements, etc. Depending on the size of the organization, you may have many employees to manage the OSHA standards and training.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 11:02 am

No matter what industry you are in, if you are federally regulated you are going to spend a boatload of money and staff time dealing with the mountain of crap.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 10:54 am

OSHA can ask one question, then leave.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:04 am

Hold negligent employers accountable then. Some rules, fine and civil liability but an army of inspectors going around to nitpick the shit out of safe organizations is stupid. Did you know you can’t wear one of the N95 masks that they pushed during covid for work without a medical exam?

MT Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 11:07 am

That’ll be $300.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 11:18 am

Nah, can do it online for $30.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 11:19 am

We used to use your employer though.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:18 am

OSHA pencil pushers aren’t helping. In some cases the regulations make a job more dangerous. Why not just take a company’s safety record and practices into account when making decisions about where to work like you take pay into account? In my opinion, we waste a lot of time worrying about complying with random OSHA rules that could be better used to simply make our employees safer. You are going to tell me that some bureaucrat knows the safest way to do a job in a specialized facility with decades of safe experience? The GHS regs within the OSHA regs are another ridiculous one. There’s gotta be like 100 pages on product labeling requirements and non of it makes sense.

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:10 am

My college aged granddaughter is thinking of quitting college after her freshman year is over, and doing (what I call) cosmetology, hair and nails. I told her two things, make sure you use as much if not all of the money we put in your 529 (else the government gets a chunk), and definitely get some kind of suction fan for all that nail dust. That stuff has to be immunogenic as hell, get a nice case of hypersensitivity pneumonitis (head cheese sign, GF’s favorite).

Yore Mom
4 February 2025 9:15 am

Noice game room, GF. Favorite game?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 7:44 am

Hot Toddy’s

Wrenage
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 7:53 am

Cold means overtime for me!

Or maybe I will just leave work early. I will have my eight hours in by 1 p.m.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 10:21 am

Interesting… I basically have the same problem. When I close my right eye, my left has a big distortion in the middle. Like looking through a cracked window. My right eye is fine, except for reading.

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:06 am

Got a call from work last night while I was walking the dogs. The phone shut off mid call as it was too cold. True story.

Back in my youth, we had one phone in the middle of the kitchen with a 4 foot cord. Was great getting critiques from the old man on my “asking for a date” ability. But those phones worked even when it was 40 below!

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:14 am

Well that goes without saying for this old fart. Circa 1986, when I registered for my first year of university, they had switched to using a touch tone phone to enter your classes. No kidding, I had the 3 inch thick course catalog balanced on my knee while I stood in a phone booth feeding quarters into it (long distance call) as that was the only touch tone phone I had access to in our town. Makes me sweat thinking of that slow as molasses system, voice prompt coming up saying, the class you requested…2…7…8…3…chem…istry…2…5…0…is no longer available. Please try again with a different class number. Scrambling to see if another day and time worked around all the other registered classes and labs.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 11:16 am

@sounds like fun@.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:17 am

My mom had a rotary dial phone until about 8 years ago when she moved into assisted living.

I remember her calling over and over to get Oprah tickets for her upcoming trip to Chicago. She had to resort to using a pencil to dial once her fingers got too sore.

JacksonVike
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 12:39 pm

In high school I was in marching bad, and one day at practice it was so cold my analog watch stopped working. I told the band director and he said it was probably a dead battery. We stayed outside for another 30 minutes.

When we went inside after about ten minutes my watch started working again. I showed the band director and he shrugged his shoulders and said, I guess it was cold out there.

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:04 am

Yikes, I did not know it was that bad. You are still allowed to drive?

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 11:15 am

Well those fuckers, why do they make me look at that hot air balloon?

JacksonVike
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 12:36 pm

They just want to see the smile on your face when you see the balloon.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 12:22 pm

That is true, but there is some doctor discretion involved, particularly in regards to field of vision and acuity in the “good” eye.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 12:21 pm

Macular degeneration or diabetic damage? Previous swelling from CSCR? BRVO?

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 12:20 pm

I would argue you need an exam more than the average person due to the fact you have only one usable eye, and you don’t want anything preventable that is bad happening to that eye.

Wrenage
4 February 2025 7:00 am

The overall impression I am getting from Chiefs fans going into the Super Bowl is confidence that they will win.

I am not seeing a lot of respect for the Eagles.

This could be random. I am not seeking information. It is simply stuff that is coming across my feeds that I glance at.

It’s all threepeat, “I was more worried about the Bills game,” and Saquon won’t even get 100 yards…

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Wrenage
4 February 2025 7:27 am

Fans talking trash. You can probably hear a lot of trash around Philly too.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Wrenage
4 February 2025 7:36 am

If the chiefs cannot slow down the Eagles running game, it will be an ez win for the poopeaters.

I think the chiefs will at least minimize the damage of the Eagles running game, and make Hurts throw the ball. That is for sure what I would do. Hurts is not as consistent when he has to throw on the move.

Either way, I am watching the game, and the ads, and probably not the halftime show.

Puppy bowl looks good this year also.

And, it is Tuesday.

Kirk still sucks.

Wrenage
Reply to  Surly Viking
4 February 2025 7:51 am

Yeah, I can’t stand the halftime shows. I will likely watch some of the game. I don’t know if I will make it through the whole thing.

This is the only halftime show a person would ever need…and they don’t do it! I doubt he can still do the move where he grabs his foot and jumps over it, though…

JacksonVike
Reply to  Wrenage
4 February 2025 8:41 am

My go to karaoke song, I used to dance to it as well, but I’m old now.

Yore Mom
Reply to  Wrenage
4 February 2025 9:17 am

It is simply stuff that is coming across my feeds that I glance at.

The scared ones talk the most crap. And I don’t mean trash talk, I mean they talk big because they are trying to talk themselves into being confident.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 12:10 pm

The Swifties would not stand for that.
And the NFL wants to keep the Swifties on board.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
4 February 2025 12:41 pm

I still say, all of the rhetoric towards games being fixed and the responses from the NFL, remind me of the early 80’s when it was coming out that professional wrestling was scripted.

I’m just waiting for a D-lineman to tackle Geraldo and ask if that was fake, like The Body did.

JacksonVike
4 February 2025 6:39 am

I disagree with Hock not being worth the money. He stepped up in games where he was needed and made catches in clutch situations. He is coming off of a torn ACL, and played like he did before the injury, pretty much from the moment he hit the field.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
4 February 2025 7:51 am

Well, he only played in 10 games, and he had 41 catches. He didn’t have a TD in any of his games this year though.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 8:39 am

If those 40 yards per game come on 3rd and 4th down in clutch situations, which most of his yards and catches do, than yes.

Yore Mom
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 9:21 am

My thought is, is 40 yards a game worth 16 million a year?

If Sam Darnold is the QB (always looking for the shot play) Hock won’t be utilized as much. Don’t know how JJ will use Hock.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Yore Mom
4 February 2025 10:16 am

Shot plays are called in the huddle, so Sam can only look for them when KOC sets him up to. Same with Hock. He’s rarely the first read on our play calls. He isn’t used like Gronkowski was, or Jason Witten, or Jordan Reed, or Kelce.

Should he be? My answer is yes, but with JJ, Addison, and Nailor, sometimes it’s hard to work in the 4th option, which Hock is.

Why do we pay him so handsomely, and not feature him much? Dunno.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 12:46 pm

Jets is going to be getting $45 mil/year, and averages 15 catches and 107yds/game.

So if you triple Hocks numbers he is averaging 12 receptions and 120 yards/game

JacksonVike
Reply to  JacksonVike
4 February 2025 12:51 pm

I’m not saying he is not overpaid, but it is not egregious. We were going to pay Darnold $10 million to possibly sit on the bench.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
4 February 2025 2:45 pm

I think your math is off. JJ had 103 catches in 17 games for 1,533 yards.

That’s 6 catches for 90 yards a game. 90 yards is impressive though. He had 10 TD’s, and Addison had 9.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 2:47 pm

JJ didn’t play last year. He tore his meniscus in the preseason.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 2:50 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
4 February 2025 2:51 pm

If we do not strive for accuracy in our posts, we are no better than liberals.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 5:24 pm

If we think we can boss others around, and force them to say what we want them to say on a blog, we’re idiots.

FloridaSKOL
4 February 2025 6:04 am

Good morning, SKOL!

FTP!

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
4 February 2025 10:08 am

FTP Auto Rec.

Wrenage
4 February 2025 5:37 am

Nice game room!

Sometimes I think about getting a Nintendo Switch.

Wrenage
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 7:49 am

I finally got an Xbox Series S on Black Friday. I mainly got it to play the Dead Space remake and Resident Evil 4 remakes. I have not played much else yet.

I have not had a Nintendo for a long time. I really miss their style of games.

I do have a Nintendo Classic and Super Nintendo Classic, though.

HUNViking
Reply to  Wrenage
4 February 2025 9:47 am

Dead Space remake is totally worth it, I played it on PC though. Still no console out there that can keep up with a well designed, dedicated gaming PC. Plus, building your own rig is fun (for me at least).

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  HUNViking
4 February 2025 10:58 am

building your own rig is fun

I did that three times, then the last 2 PCs have been CyberPower. I get something that was released about 1 year ago, save money, and get 5-7 years out of it.
I am now shopping again since my current PC is not windows 11 compatible, and some games are getting slow.

MT Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
4 February 2025 11:04 am

Build your own gaming computer? That sounds cool!

I just asked my wife.

No.

Well, there you have it!

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 12:12 pm

The Boss has spoken.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
4 February 2025 12:54 pm

Just do it Johnny Cash style. One piece at a time and she’ll never know.

JacksonVike
Reply to  bowbunch
4 February 2025 12:55 pm

You can call it the Psychobilly computer

DE Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
4 February 2025 7:39 am

Sometimes I think about getting a Nintendo Switch.

Is that the same switch that AP uses ?

Yore Mom
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 9:23 am

Wrenage
Reply to  DE Viking
4 February 2025 9:32 am

Yes.

Wrenage
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 7:46 am

I liked The Heretic, but I can’t figure out if the director wrote the villain like he believed he had a point or if he wrote the villain as a parody of atheism. Like the Horus/Mithras argument has fallen by the wayside these days.

But, whatever…I like the Hugh Grant resurgence.

Wrenage
Reply to  Gone fishin'
4 February 2025 7:47 am

I want a sequel to The Killer.

I believe the graphic novel it is based on had multiple sequels.

MT Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
4 February 2025 10:55 am

Of late I have been playing civ 6 at bedtime…it is available with a PetDix subscription. I haven’t turned on the XBox yet this calendar year. Civ 6 is scary as I start it 15 minutes before my planned bedtime and suddenly find it is a half hour past my bedtime and I’m fuming cuz such and such has happened.

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Gone fishin'

Gone fishin'

I'm a dad, husband, Army vet, believer, and a die-hard, life-long Vikings fan from the great state of North Dakota. I've been a Viking fan dating back to 1980, I've been covering the Vikings for nearly a decade, and I founded Skoloholics in 2022. I work in real estate and property management, I love spending time with family, working in the yard, doing anything in the outdoors, and as you can tell from my username, I love fishing. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!

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