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Minnesota Vikings News:
At NBC, Kirk Cousins said that he wants to be with the Vikings and he hopes to ‘earn the right to do that’. Rational conversation is sure to ensue.
Titans QB Ryan Tannehill says he feels ‘a little bit of déjà vu’ after Will Levis selection, but is not focused on the rookie QB. I remember going to the Deja Vu in Minneapolis back in my younger years. I think it’s kinda weird that Tannehill has those kinds of thoughts about Levis. Then again, who am I to judge? To each their own. I thought Tannehill was married, though. It’s probably not the last we’ll hear about this ongoing saga.
At the SI Mailbag, they look at changes they’d like to see made to future NFL Drafts. I didn’t read this, but I sure as hell hope they mention that we don’t want to see the friggin’ Jonas Brothers again. I still don’t know what a Jonas Brother is and I don’t care.
Video of the Day:
Here are some funny drunk people to watch on this lovely Thursday. Enjoy!
Forrest left home running. He ran a ways and then turned left, ran the same distance and turned left again, ran the same distance and turned left again. When he got home, there were two masked men. Who were they?
3 lefts make a right…..but I can’t figure out the riddle.
The catcher and the umpire.
“Jordan Addison said in a recent interview that him and Justin Jefferson will ‘instantly’ be the best WR duo in the NFL.”
He’s got to learn the playbook first, and he seems to forget he’s never set foot on an NFL field. KJ (a guy who worked hard and earned his way onto the field) is going to read that and be very insulted.
Hope he works his ass off and lives up to that statement.
He’s gonna go into that WR room and everyone is going to look at him sideways.
They probably laughed when they saw it. I would think “OK rookie. You will see how hard it really is to take the next step. “
Zackly. He looked damn good vs college DBs. I like the confidence, but let’s see what happens vs NFL DBs.
Thielen went out of his way to teach JJ and mentor him. Nobody is gonna want to do that with this guy (IMO). JJ came in and just went to work. He didn’t come in shooting his mouth off.
Hopefully JJ is secure enough in his place that he will mentor him.
This isn’t a security issue, it’s a humility issue. JJ worked his tail off and earned his way onto the field. Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but JJ and this guy are two very different players IMO.
Sounds more like confidence.
NFL has a way of humbling people.
he’s going to get on the field with his Vikings DBs in camp so hopefully they give him a good run.
dude won the biletnikoff. He’s not a slouch.
I doubt they laughed… we’ll see if he is able to be “great” this year. NFL defenses are much better than anything he ever saw in college.
Now that I’ve been called out, I am going to double down. That’s what we do here.
What a bunch of slackers. Barely any Kirk or politics talk today.
Thanks for summing up. Now I can just drink my bourbon. 😁
Twinks salvage one against the vaunted Sox. On 5 hits.
Still learning. Question – what are the negative red numbers at the bottom of posts?
Downvotes
Down votes for the content of the post? If you are in a discussion back and forth with someone. that same someone can give you a red mark.
If anything i give a thumbs up. DN was/is really bad with that shit. Ain’t seen that place in months.
Thank you for reply. I’m not sure how to even give someone an up mark. Wouldn’t give anyone the red, seems especially shitty to do that to a person you are in a discussion (disagreement) with.
Don´t mind that too much. You might see the little thumb icons below every post, that´s where one can give positive or negative feedback to any given post by clicking on them.
Red just means that somebody disagrees with the content of the post but is too lazy to type a comment of their own.
Yeah, a thumbs down says nothing. Discuss why you think i’m wrong. Too each his own.
Guess I think I’m more in line with your and HUN’s thinking. Got something to say to someone, say it to their face. anyway, learning that on line communication is very different from face to face and over the phone. Thanks again.
Texting has no voice inflection, sometimes complete sarcasm and not picked up. Just have to deal with that part. I don’t post much but i don’t have a problem with anyone here.
Just me Chef.
Good dude Mick, knowledgeable. good takes.
Some just see them as agreement or disagreement with someones post/statement/claim.
Or it could be a mistake, like just now I went to click reply on your post and missed by 1/4 of an inch and hit the downvote.
There is no changing it once that happens.
Hmm. You are correct. Didn’t know that.
I laugh when I see red marks
I’ll upvote someone but ignore a comment instead of a downvote.
Mick I must say I’ve much enjoyed some of our back and forth’s over the last few weeks Some of the others, to be frank – well,won’t say. But wouldn’t give them a mark. I take seriously what it says at the top about being nice. .Really don’t understand why anyone would want to act otherwise.
You take it with a grain of salt.
We’re all a bunch of assholes.
If you think its sarcasm.. it probably is.
I’ll go back and forth and while some opinions blow my mind… We are all allowed to have them.
Not even sure why we have them. They don’t cause anything to happen. If someone doesn’t like what I say I’d rather they say why than just click a thumb down.
I believe 5 downvotes or something goes to moderation.
It means it is comment lifer made
Thanks noted. Also noted that Lifer seems to get more red marks than anyone.
I kid, though I have doubts lifer is the one downvoting, he definitely just comments directly that he thinks someone’s wrong, I assume most downvotes come from lurkers that don’t actually comment.
There is a mysterious downvoter.
Kathy gets downvoted…so does VP.
its weird.
It’s not me as I’ve said before….I just blow up and talk shit that’s my style.
I think it’s baby kefey
Nah.
I have no idea who it is: I didn’t think it was you.
This is more your style
I saw someone downvoting all of Kathy’s posts one day and called the person out and said not pleasant things about their cowardice. I think that triggered them so they downvote me too now. Some people are children all of their lives.
Who in the heck would downvote Kathy? I don’t think I have ever seen her get into it with anyone? She is always nice to people here.
She said someone used to give her down votes on another site and they may have followed her here. Obsessive much?
Stalker
Lifer has some views that do not align with others, but he bleeds purple like the rest of us. I appreciate him even if he can’t spell for shit.
Or punctuate the commie that he is.
You must be a young buck.
Most of the regulars here will not give out thumbs down. They will just call you out. I’m close to 100% sure that most of the thumbs down are by lurkers that don’t post any or very little.
Good take is good.
Might want to give this guy a few carries.
I like his potential as well. Shifty in the open field. Good burst. The 10 career fumbles is a concern. That’s a lot of putting the ball on the ground.
Think the fumbling think is somewhat coachable. Cook ain’t going to be here so anything helps.
I agree. Tiki Barber comes to mind in that regard. Talented runner, put the ball on the ground early and often in his career. So did Ahman Green. Both turned it around. Green’s was due to an equipment change – the rubber elbow pads he wore would get slick and the ball would slip out.
Yes, Tiki, good memory. Lets hope.
Said this.
you did not agree.
How about fuck you Mr Receipts I changed my goddamn mind?
Need a chill pill Lifer.
LOL. It’d be ok if it wasn’t like two days ago…
and it really isnt a big deal…..
but…
flippity floppity flooooooo
So you call me out for flip flopping and now say it’s no big deal??? You passive aggressive turd you have a lot of nerve.
I calls em like i sees em.
Not if he can´t get a grip on those fumbles.
Not gonna see the field
Is this like Levis going too 2?
Ladies & gentlemen, we got him.
Good stuff from Dougie in here who’s legit.
Hunter will get new deal. Cook gone.
https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/danielle-hunter-new-contract-expected/
First reported by Mick.
Some guy reporting what some other guy said on the radio?
Speculation based on wild guesses?
Yup, modern journalism at its finest.
They get their info from Skoloholics.
That can’t be true as they didn’t discuss KC or Gun Control.
Distraction technique to parse through the real info
Twinks down 2-1 to Sox in 6th, on the verge of getting swept by a 8-21 team going in. Nice work. Give me football please.
I want a womans beach volleyball league with those thongish swim suits.
Goddamn it I thought about every possible superman related thing and it had nothing to do with that lol…..
LOL….I needed to eliminate any option of getting tired.
I knew that one. I heard it as how far can you go into a forest? The addition of Superman and Brazilian is good, helps confuse even more.
What is something you can see with the naked eye but if you put it into a barrel it makes it lighter?
Still working on yours………just to be sure, is it “can see” or “can’t see”
You CAN see it with the naked eye.
Dammit. I only came up with ‘helium balloon’
Ha, if I remember because not sure you’ll be back in here I’ll post my other favorite riddle tomorrow.
This is fantastic lol….
https://twitter.com/tsting18/status/1654182774524321793?s=46&t=7vUwQfw5dTWyLdq5j0Sirg
LOL, pretty funny
Another teacher abusing students. It’s time for common sense genital restrictions. If you disagree you obviously think it is ok for teacher’s to rape children.
West Virginia teacher who raped freshman kept ‘Top 10’ list of most attractive students: lawsuit
Hanged by the next until dead. You want prison reform, lets start there. Rapists removed from the planet. That should free up some space.
Wasn’t there a republican lawmaker that said it was ok to marry 14 yr old girls? What’s the difference?
Pretty sure it’s the dems that have said pedophilia is an orientation not a disorder.
You are both right. Both sides are full of disgusting scum bags and the only reason that happens is because you both buy into the idea that it’s OK because the other side is worse. Both sides are terrible and you’re making it possible/worse.
I don’t think anybody is saying either is ok. More like just making exaggerated points. As much as I disagree with him, I don’t think Lifer thinks pedophilia is ok and I definitely don’t and marrying a 12 year old is pedophilia.
Oh I know but the both of you can see and admit that both sides are corrupt so what stops you from not voting out corrupt guys from your side (not you specifically but in a general sense those who are in the same shoes of realizing both sides are corrupt)? It’s always because the other side is worse. They aren’t, they are the same damn bird.
I don’t care who ya vote for, fucking kids is bad.
I’m sorry I misspoke…it was 12 yr old girls and where you came up with that neo con dark web BS just goes to show your level of brain washing.
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/missouri-lawmaker-defends-12-year-olds-getting-married/
Summary:
It is May 4th
Star wars gifs
Mick suggests wearing covid masks while swimming and shares other medical advice to asswipe B
MT gargles with public hot tub water, also gets lectured by uneducated coworkers on infectious disease
DE reminds us that 15 days is actually 1141 days according to public health experts
Lifer posts about his undying love for Kirk Cousins because he goes about everything in the conservative way
Kirk Cousins debate for roughly the 1867th consecutive day, or 25 days according to public health experts
Mick doesn’t know what a discount is.
Jro asks if you like poll vaulting over mouse shit
Wrenage thinks weeks are 5 minutes long
Mick forgot to RSVP for Vikings mini camp, guess he’s SOL
Gun debate again, it was very
pointlessenlightening and everyonedug their heels inlearned new ways to look at itLifer refuses to proof read for Nazis, also says Obama is a fraud
JacksonVike reports you just tell the gun store you’re republican and they give you one, not sure you even have to pay, also reminds you all that Lifer is certified
Lifer asks if Kfey is ok, nice to see the care we have for each other here
Wrenage randomly watches movie, then reviews it
Discussion about “traditional” or “authentic” italian food
Bow thinks Kfey’s has a closed minded, indoctrinated way of thinking
More Kirk discussion
Skoldiers complains about how boring and painful the Kirk discussion is, then immediately posts new comment about Kirk and how great he is, also still struggling with there/their/they’re
GF, Bow, and DE make terrible dad joke puns about football related gun references
According to Mick its the fault of guns for the Vikings having a bad draft
VP barely posts anything at all, then shows up and calls everyone slackers
😂
Yeah. That dude has some nerve…..
LOL nice work
Thanks, LOL!
Michael Scott would be proud
See lots off funny things at a boat ramp but usually it’s backing. That’s about as bone headed as it gets.
I love how they just sit there as the van sinks. The driver doesn’t even take her seat belt off for quite awhile.
I seen a car stuck in wet cement yesterday in a construction zone.
Must have been a sight to behold.
LOL.
That’s my family.
“I don’t know what street I’m on or what direction to go. I just follow the GPS”
“Hee hee….hey look, the road suddenly ends at this water, hee hee. It must continue on the other side of all those big boats………I’ll keep going!”
$185 million guaranteed.
$37 per year guaranteed.
Thats…..honestly a pretty good deal for both sides imo.
It’s reasonable.
And manageable for the team in later years.
Still think he’ll be oft injured.
Likely correct.
@Unless he does throw for those 6,000 yards.
Then he won’t have to run.@
Could be, but $37 Mi a year for a MVP Caliber Dual threat QB in this market is more than fair. Regardless of injury risk.
Isn’t it $52 per year but only $37 per year on average is guaranteed?
Oh, that could be…I might have misunderstood the Tweet. Wonder what the cap hit per year is? Because thats the actual important number.
According to Spotrac:
2023 – $22M / $112.5M dead
2024 – $33M / $90.5M dead
2025 – $43.5M / $57.5M dead
2026 – $74.5M / $39.5 dead
2027 – $74.5M / $21.5 dead
2028 – $12.5M cap hit without a new contract. 2028 and 2029 are void years with hits of $8M and $4.5M respectively.
Holy ouchy in 26/27
Yup, Thats what I said as well. Seems all good until 26 lol. Its only two years of pain though. They better hope they get their bowl in the next two years.
The dead cap numbers don’t add up to me. I think they have something wrong. 2026 for example there is $29M in signing bonus left to account for and $28.5M left in option bonus to account for but somehow there’s only a $39.5M dead hit. Looks like 2027 is un-guaranteed as well. Spotrac says it would be a $21.5M dead hit to cut him but the way they break the contract down I think it would be more like $35M dead hit.
You Cousins contract complaint sons-a-bitches have the nerve to say “well it’s a pretty good deal.
26 year old MVP quality dual threat QB, if you cant understand that, that’s on you and the public school system that failed you.
He seems more of a home schooled type.
Nope good ole Ohio / Wva public school system. Home schooled are those conservative Christian types like Mick.
Dual threat lol…yeah right.
Dual threat of injury with all that running, despite all those rules protecting QBs and RBs that can throw somewhat well, like Lamar.
Do you even realize that Jackson allowed the team some flexibility in the final two years? Kirk won’t allow any.
Who needs guns when you can get yourself a German Shepherd?
That is funny.
That reminds me of this one and with tourist season almost upon us the timing is a good reminder if any of you flat landers plan to make a trip this way.
😂
Hi
LOL…
I think he meant to say “run for 6,000 yards”
Is this the team that has a couple of 270 pound tight ends and a 300 pound fullback. Picked up a couple of receivers and now 6000 yards passing. Quite a change in philosophy Great runner, but not exactly the most accurate throw of the football .
LOL.
Yeah. He is reaching a bit……
You guys are slacking. Where’s the Kirk and political talk today?
Remember when posting GIFs of Trump got you banned on the DN?
LOL.
Random….
I was looking for something completely different and that came up. Had to share a little randomness.
So you searched for transy stuff in the gif machine?
Nice…..
LOL, well plaid
Haha. Actually the search was “Donald Trump gif”.
That made me laugh, thanks, I needed that! LOL!
And nothing will come from it.
NY & CA
Thought this was a little harsh.
He didn’t give any real reasons as to why it was a D+
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Grade
D+
Minnesota Vikings
Total picks: 6
Round 1
o USC WR Jordan Addison (No. 23 overall)
Round 3
o USC CB Mekhi Blackmon (No. 102)
Round 4
o LSU DB Jay Ward (No. 134)
Round 5
o LSU DT Jaquelin Roy (No. 141)
o BYU QB Jaren Hall (No. 164)
Round 7
o UAB RB DeWayne McBride (No. 222)
The Vikings pulled a minor surprise — but hardly a shock — when they took Jordan Addison in Round 1. What made it most interesting was doing so with Maryland CB Deonte Banks still on the board. It’s reasonable to think they anticipate second-year CBs Andrew Booth and Akayleb Evans will be healthy enough to contribute, although the Vikes did use their next two picks on the secondary. Addison is a dangerous playmaker who will see clearer paths opposite Justin Jefferson. But can the Pittsburgh/USC product thrive on the outside, or will he be mostly limited to the slot? At 173 pounds, lacking elite speed, Addison must show he can get loose from press-man coverage, but he’s a three-level threat with polished route-running skills.
Mekhi Blackmon was a reach in my mind, but he certainly fits the mold of a Brian Flores defender, so I’ll reserve judgment a bit. He is a bit older, however, at age 24 — and had some injury issues in college.
The Jay Ward pick made a little more sense in that he has safety/slot/outside-corner versatility and is a bit cleaner an evaluation from a health standpoint.
Jaquelin Roy is a strong, stout defender with the ability to contribute in a rotation, but his lack of twitch likely keeps him off the field in obvious passing situations.
The Vikings were expected to be in on the quarterbacks, so the Jaren Hall selection wasn’t surprising. He also operated in a system with some pro concepts and has the smarts, moxie and athleticism to make it. But Hall is already 25 years old, injury-prone and lacks high-end arm talent. So, while Kirk Cousins is in the last year of his contract, Hall doesn’t exactly present a clear succession plan.
Minnesota’s final pick was by far my favorite, considering where the Vikings got DeWayne McBride. He absolutely has the tackle-breaking skill and surprising wiggle to be a first- and second-down standout, even while it’s obvious his ball security (nine fumbles on 525 carries at UAB) and third-down ability (five catches on 10 targets in 30 career games) are well below average.
I had D- so that’s better than what I thought
He seems to be ok with each pick except Hall.
Yet gives it a D+?
I blame guns.
Only the scary black ones though.
THE GUNS RAISED MY TAXES AND POISEND THE WATER SUPPLY!
This article has a nice way of saying “You done fucked up, Kwesi”, and I tend to agree.
Not encouraging to read some of this stuff… many injury prone guys and a RB who can´t hold on to the ball… we´ll see, I guess.
Me and a Brit continue to work our way through ranking the Bond films one by one by one. We should finish sometime around 2045. Here is our take on From Russia With Love…
https://www.lastmovieoutpost.com/bond-on-from-russia-with-love/
Here’s a discussion point:
How many games Vikes going to win?
I say 8.
Schedule is horrible. Play chiefs, bengals, eagles, chargers, broncos, and SF.
Broncos??
The 5-12 Broncos are a concern??
They will be better with FFace as the coach.
Yeah, he doesn’t need much time to implement his successful defensive scheme – “BREAK THEIR KNEES!”
Correct. Games in Denver too
I’d go with 9.
I will give KOC the benefit of the doubt on his game management skills that seemed to work in 2022.
I picked 12 last year. Not as optimistic this year because of defense worries. Still think we will win enough to win the division.
Which..is a low bar, weakest Divisions in the sport and is not an acceptable goal or end.
The question was games, not goals. So you think the Bucs/saints Panthers…. is a better division.
Ten. (can’t type 10. as it automatically indents and switches to 1.)
Offense will be better overall – Hock has a full offseason to digest the playbook, Addison will either free up JJ or be freed up by JJ, we should get our tackles back. IOL remains the same, running game will be the same.
Defense will be slightly better without Dumatell, but will need a bit to implement Flores’ scheme. But, we face better teams this season than last.
Long time to go before the real games start.
hoping for the IOL to make a year 2 leap.
as far as the defense… I’d rather see them pressure heavy and give up a huge play than die by 1000
Cuts of the crossing routes over the middle
Ingram hopefully will become the mean bastard they said he would be. We could use a couple of those on the line.
Cleveland is Cleveland. Terds is Terds – can he gain any more strength/technique to be a better pass blocker at this stage of his life?
Scheme could help. His best year was last year.
Kelce is the same size as him
20
20 wins total in the next decade if they don’t resign Kirk
QB’s aren’t responsible for wins.
Yep, that’s why they should have drafted Hooker. They could still trade for Wilson, but I would check with the guy they drafted this year and make sure Wilson didn’t sleep with his mom.
Lol!!!
Wilson sucks though. He’ll be out of NFL within 5 years
I will also go with 8 wins which sadly will probably win the Davison. WC exit. Hopeful removal of Kwerk. Then the fun begins.
Think 8 is the high mark. Maybe the O can keep the D off the field. Think Flores is going to be alot more aggressive but that ain’t saying much.
I think the Defense WILL be good, just not in 2023. Lacking legit pass rush and CB experience. There will be growing pains, much like the first years with Zim. Flores will have things running tip top in a few years. I expect more of the same from the offense, slightly, SLIGHTLY improved D, with a much harder schedule and no horse shoe up our ass in 1 score games. 8 wins is fair.
I need OTA’s, camp and preseason. Hell, we could win division or finish last, i don’t know.
We’ll win 12 this year.
I am proposing a trade, Kirk and JJ to the Cardinals for Murry, 2024 1st rd, 2024 2nd rd and 2025 1st rd. Do you take it?
No Murray sucks and Kirk is better.
But we will simply replace Murray in the next draft. Remember that is easy to do.
What about his contract and guaranteed money?
Trade him for a bag of footballs to the Browns.
I don’t think anybody has said replacing the current starter is easy to do.
Most are saying that it’s time to look to the future.
No.
JJ alone is worth the picks. Maybe more.
He would be worth more alone. Not getting a second 1st is payment for them taking Cousins.
LOL.
But it is two firsts and one second…….
Oops, not getting a 2nd 2nd.
Kirks a FA next season so nobody’s is trading for Kirk without a new deal
Technically, you’re not trading for Kirk you are trading for JJ. I just threw Kirk and Murray in there to go along with today’s theme.
How about we don’t take Murray but they still take Kirk anyway just for fun.
Jalen Carter the first drafted rookie to sign his contract.
https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/04/philadelphia-eagles-sign-jalen-carter-rookie-contract-details/
Eagles are gonna be elite. Gonna get slaughtered when we play them.
They appear to be stacked. No doubt.
Or Hurts proves to be a flash in the pan after the NFL outlaws the scrum pile push and they owe a meh QB a ton of money. Nah, that would never happen to the Eagles.
There defense alone can probably win a ship.
*their
*refreash
I want to know where the ship is that they are winning. Is it on Lake Minnetonka or the ocean?
QB1 the goat in Vikes history
LOL, 1 playoff wins makes you the GOAT, lowbar indeed.
I wish the fanbase would strive for loftier goals. Even if rarely unobtainable.
What loftier goal. I lived most of my life in DC and Joe Gibbs won three Sb’s and went to four. His goal every year was simply to win the division and get a home playoff game. Then they’d go from there. Seemed to work pretty well
What is with people comparing past Red Skins teams to the Vikings? I dont get it. You and NLNVF. Apples and Kiwis. Loftier goal would be conference championships, not winning the weakest division in the sport.
Well I believe Bill Parcells had a similar goal for the Giants. I also believe, not completely, certain Bill Walsh had similar goals. And I know for certain, All of these guys won a hell of a lot more championship games and SB’s than we have. So, if its good enough for them………
And I do know with absolute certainty, you do have to win Divisional level games to get to the Championship game.
Did Pizza Ranch ok his shirt choice?
Below you said you were sick and tired of the Cousins debate.
Yet there you go again starting a Cousins debate.
I’m not debating about Cousins at all. Just stating a fact and his elite dad swag
Ok.
Can I state a “fact” about Cousins without being called a hater or starting a debate?
When Skolly says it, it is an immutable truth. Like when the Vikings were absolutely moving to the top 10 to draft Levis unless Levis went in the top 2.
Lol
That is a beautiful summation.
Kirk Cousins and/or gun control debate for like the 2000th day in a row lol.
Somebody should rent a boat for some of the Vikings players.
Id do blow and whores on a boat. Whats the big deal?
If you’re far enough off the coast it isn’t illegal, right?
IF you don’t get caught it’s not illegal.
INTERNATIONAL WATERS BABY! *snoorrrrrt*
@At least the debates are productive and peoples minds are open to new ideas.@
Got any Kirk Cousins stats when he plays in the shotgun formation?
Cousins plays in the shotgun formation?????
How about the Cousins in the pistol formation?
I heard he’s good at long bombs
Just shooting from the hip here, but when it’s 4th down he should take a shot.
With all the weapons they have on offense, they had the ammo they needed.
With the amount of playmakers in their arsenal they should win ARound 15 games this year.
So long as they execute, ammo is useless without weaponry.
Yep, they need to set their sights on a full assault of the league.
It’ll be a war. Take no prisoners, get them in your sights and pull the trigger.
I concede. You are fully semi automatic with a loaded clip of these puns.
Painfully boring and annoying as hell. I’ve stopped commenting and just hiding these comments bc it’s the same thing Every. Single. Day.
Groundhogs day on here. Need some new peeps to bring some different topics in. Same 5 ppl talk about the same thing.
FYI everyone… NOBODY is changing anyone’s opinion on Kirk or political/gun control on here. Zero point in talking about it bc nobody is changing their mind on it.
You’re right. We should just talk about nothing. How about 50 posts about whether or not Dalvin Cook will be on the team this year? Haven’t done that for a day or two.
Sure or crockpot and smoker recipes
How about a discussion on Social Security and Medicare reform?
Hide replies is fun to use
So if we don’t use the reply button and just argue without replies, you can’t hide the discussion……hmmmm…..
LOL
It sure is
I use it daily. I wish it kept comments hidden when I refresh the page.
And also automatically hide additional replies……
Always room for imporvement
Could’ve fooled me.
Interesting. But the offense wasn’t the problem last season it was the defense. If defense was even low 20s instead of nearly dead last we likely win a game or two in playoffs
No way to prove that.
Kirk still went 3 and out.
And threw 4th and 8 short of the sticks.
He didn’t state is as a matter of fact but said it was likely.
and he’s not wrong.
He will never be wrong because we will never know.
No way to prove it.
That’s like me saying the Vikings would have beat the Giants if Mullens played. You can’t prove it right or wrong.
“4th and 8 short of sticks” How about 4th and 18? by the way, where would you have thrown the ball on the 4th and 8 play?
To a receiver beyond the first down marker.
The Vikings went 3 and out on the series before that play. Who’s fault was that? The defense?
The kicker
LOL.
Was the series before – run, screen pass left, screen pass right? Who’s fault – I don’t know.
Believe kirk was getting hit at about two seconds. Who was beyond sticks at that time for a throw?
There were a few.
He gets paid to play football.
He should know better. He failed.
Just admit it. He acknowledge his mistake. Why can’t you?
Maybe Hock should have ran a route beyond the sticks, just saying.
You seem to be a stickler for words. so when you say ‘Who” – “Who” specifically?
Since Kirk is the QB, he is held to a higher standard. He is the most important player on the team. He gets paid well. If after 3 plays the offense can’t get a first down, I blame the QB for not making the right decisions.
PLease tell me “who” – no answer! response – if after 3 plays…. A pass to Dalvin who runs out of bounds, a pass to KJ and he drops it (not much talked about). So now it’s 4th, Who do you throw to?
Diggs
KJ, JJ, AT. Those 3 were down field. Highest chance for completion was KJ breaking open. He coulda said fuck it and Lauch it to JJ. Season is on the line. Those are the plays you make. Not the safe plays. Getting hit or not. Thats what he should have done. Stop defending him. You’re not his mom.
And you’re not the vain of his existance. JJ was triple teamed. Adam couldn’t beat man coverage. KJ – yea great, if he can throw the ball laying on his ass.
Perhaps you should go back and watch end of Bengals/Rams SB. Bengals had a fourth and short. Burrows also got pressure quickly from inside pressure. He held it a little too long and ended up throwing a golfer ball.Cousins could have held it a little longer, waiting for KJ to clear, but he’d be on his can too.
I’m not trying to be a jackass. I just never hear any real good thoughtful response on how we could have converted the play.
I’ve already heard all the bullshit.
3rd and 10/4th and 8, game on the line
Case Keenum:
Kirk Cousins:
3 Wrs
except there wasn’t – and certaionly not open.
i didn’t look at it literally.
this is the internet
Going off memory, but I believe he finished 31/39 and 3 TDs and no turnovers. Can’t ask for much better than that.
Defense giving up 35 points was fun
That 11 minute drive is enough to cause PTSD
Interesting, but they ranked only 8th in RZ TD%, which is still good.
Things are getting a little out of hand down below. Gonna mix things up with the next Spaghetti recipe I plan on trying.
Must be in the comment string that I collapsed.
😅 😅 maybe
My brother-in-law makes some awesome spaghetti – does the usual noodles and sauce, but add different kielbasa, andouille sausages, pepperoni, etc.
Cream of mushroom soup is my secret ingredient. Not sure if I can still use that now that I have to eat gluten free. I suppose I can’t.
Mushroom soup you say?
Such a great movie.
I loved that book. Although a little over the top, Pat Conroy did a great job of the classic military family dynamic of the 60’s and 70’s especially with an officer.
My dad still calls us ‘sports fans’ because of Bull Meechum…
I think there is gluten free cream of mushroom soup.
It all has to do with the thickening agent used. Traditional cream soups use wheat. Gluten free uses something else. Probably rice.
I’ll have to look for that, I like using that in my spaghetti sauce.
Pacific Foods, and Health Valley are 2 brands that make it.
Corn starch is a great thickener, and gluten free.
Does not sound like a traditional spaghetti and meatball but sounds good none the less. I would throw in peppers and onions into that.
Right? Who cares about tradition it’s all about flavor. Tomatoes aren’t even native to Italy so when people say, “traditional” how far back we going?
Eh, in my mind, the “Tritonal Italian” cooking goes back to immigrants in New York recreating recipes from the home land with the ingredients they could get locally here, and modifying from there. Italian Here and in Italy is very different. Both delicious. Cooking is meant to evolve and be expressive. I always cook with a recipe first and get it right, then I modify.
I just think people throw “traditional” around too much without actually having a real understanding of it’s meaning. People say “Authentic” or “Traditional” Italian but again, tomatoes aren’t native to Italy so what do you mean? Take inspiration and make it taste good. Traditional dog shit isn’t good just because it’s “traditional” lol
I think you are over analyzing things for the sake of over analyzing. Do you want to go back to the origin of man and grinding spices and harvesting plants for flavor to be traditional? Because we can lol. I explained what my idea of “Traditionally” Italian American cooking would be. When a majority of the cuisine we know and love started appearing.
What a closed minded, indoctrinated way of thinking.
Call me a rebel
You can think that if you want. But the word traditional can have lots of contexts and I think words are important. So if someone uses it in a way to mean not good or better I like to throw out that the word doesn’t mean what they think it means. It needs more descriptors. So when you say traditional you mean traditional early American Italian. See, now we all know what you actually mean.
And from Naples on south ,it gets really god in my opinion.
He calls it “Spagatch” (spa-GOTCH), so maybe a visit to the patent office is called for……
I review Bloody Hell because I randomly watched it…
https://www.lastmovieoutpost.com/retro-review-bloody-hell/
I like that. I still do not watch the NHL, and I like hockey.
But.. Norm Sucks, and so does the NHL for allowing the team to leave.
Holding a grudge… I can appreciate that.
Yep, fuck Norm Green…
If only Serbia had some of the strictest gun laws in the world, oh, wait….
Belgrade school shooting: boy kills 9 in planned attack
But but, only crazy right wingers in AMERICA shoot up schools…..
Amazing how when the story doesn’t push the narrative it is buried and nowhere to be found.
Nobody said only about any of that dipshit…small minds small petty excuses. You fit the brand perfectly.
What are you talking about? YOU LITERALLY SAY AND IMPLY THAT ANY TIME THIS SUBJECT COMES UP! Just because its a new thread doesn’t mean that garbage you’ve spewed on previous days magically goes away. Small minds, please.
I don’t say only in America, but more frequently in America. You ok?
Oh here’s the rights battle cry example that it’s not the guns it’s the people lol….We have shootings here everyday..they’ve had a few in a decade. Little historical knowledge would educated your uninformed ass that after the wars there, there is widespread gun proliferation from that time in the populous. So news flash…..It’s the fucking guns…if there weren’t guns I guess he would have killed his classmates, teacher and security guard with a milk carton.
So guns already being widespread means the massive gun restrictions in place don’t work?
Or a knife a machete an axe a hammer…
whatwver they want to use to hurt people.
Im genuinely at the point I think he is on the spectrum or has some medical mental deficiency.
lol…I’ve got more intelligence and stability in my ball sack than you have in your entire genealogy. I know it’s hard for you because you’re ugly, can’t find a date and get laid once a decade from some ugly girl with no options.
LMAO! I’ve seen JH kids throw out better insults at their friends. Please try something original next time key board warrior <3 So adorable. Also, that last part sounds a LOT like projection, I’m sure thats the case with your wife but thats none of my business.
His reply was just proving your point about his mental deficiency.
Well, he is certified.
*certifiable
Knives, blades, vehicles etc. There’s less shooting in Europe but there’s WAY more stabbings. You really do think at a Kindergarten level, its very humorous. If you dont think theres a metal health problem then you need mental help yourself. Crazy fuck.
Serbia’s gun laws don’t work because there are too many guns left from the wars but somehow new gun laws will work in the US that has an estimated 320,000,000 more guns at a rate of 4 times more than Serbia per capita (about 1.2 guns per person on average). A tiny country can’t control 7 million guns but somehow the US is going to take control of almost 330 million guns in a country founded on the right to bear arms. That makes sense.
So by your logic since there are so many guns let’s throw our hands up and say we just have to live with daily mass shootings and our children being slaughtered in schools. Wow that’s a pretty fucked up way to think imo. Meanwhile let the gun manufactures keep pumping out more guns as a solution. Yeah that will make things better.
Well that’s quite the leap….
That’s precisely the republican stance…no new gun laws or restrictions and we’ll shoot our way out of this problem. Prove me wrong Gary Got all the answers.
creating new laws to restrict the rights of those who follow the law does not change the intent of those who are unwilling to follow the law.
killing people is illegal no matter how you kill them.
Lifer should probably cut his wanker off to prevent his neighbor from raping somebody too.
That’s the dumbest line of horseshit to ever come out of an asshole. No one is restricting the rights of law abiding citizens, that’s just the brainwashing right wing propaganda said on repeat that has infiltrated your soft limbic brain. Trying to reduce the sheer numbers of Americans, especially children, being killed is what is being asked to do. You’re too shellfish and brainwashed to see the difference.
If someone wants to shoot up a school, do you think that person would worry about a gun law when they already want to ignore the murder law?
Oh.
So what is a right?
and if I’m unable to exercise that right… does that mean it’s being restricted?
You’re assuming you won’t be able to exercise said right so you’re stopping all chance at any common sense reform. My god you don’t even realize how brainwashed you are.
I’m trying to understand what train of thought you’re on.
are we repealing 2A?
are we banning guns?
are we passing a law?
how does any of these stop a criminal from acquiring a firearm illegally?
You have never once explained what “common sense reform” actually means. It is just a catch phrase spouted by liberals to get people worked up that means nothing. Also:
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Why do you pretend that the left actually gives a shit, they bitch about gun control to pander to their virtue signal loving base. If they actually cared about gun control they would passed legislation Biden’s first two years when they controlled the house, senate, and white house but guess what, they didn’t, but they sure did bitch about and talk about how repubs don’t care and are allowing children to be killed.
You need a civics class. They can’t pass it without a super majority vote total in both houses. try again. It’s the 2nd amendment.
Why not?
Is it because they would need to repeal the 2nd amendment?
Read up…I’m not here to compensate for your poor scholastic upbringing.
Ben’s feverishly looking it up now because I proved him wrong.
I aced you test yesterday.
You did….and I’m proud of you. Your trophy is on its way.
If I remember correctly, Obama had a super majority his first two years. All he passed was the unaffordable care act, and an elephant of an omnibus bill for $9 trillion.
A supermajority is a filibuster-proof 60 or more Senate seats, allowing one party to pass legislation without votes from the other.
President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009 with just 58 Senators to support his agenda.
He should have had 59, but Republicans contested Al Franken’s election in Minnesota and he didn’t get seated for seven months.
The President’s cause was helped in April when Pennsylvania’s Republican Senator Arlen Specter switched parties.
That gave the President 59 votes — still a vote shy of the super majority.
But one month later, Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia was hospitalized and was basically out of commission.
So while the President’s number on paper was 59 Senators — he was really working with just 58 Senators.
Then in July, Minnesota Senator Al Franken was finally sworn in, giving President Obama the magic 60 — but only in theory, because Senator Byrd was still out.
In August, Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died and the number went back down to 59 again until Paul Kirk temporarily filled Kennedy’s seat in September.
Any pretense of a supermajority ended on February 4, 2010 when Republican Scott Brown was sworn into the seat Senator Kennedy once held.Do you see a two-year supermajority?
Then how can they pass restrictive gun laws annually?
If you’re talking about repealing 2a, yeah they need a super majority, but that’s not what we’re talking about are we?
Not a repeal of the 2nd amendment but definitely a few amendments are needed that would require a super majority.
Is passing a law and an amendment the same thing?
or do I need a civics class?
I don’t think they need an amendment to pass meaningful legislation, I don’t think the law they passed during FDRs reign was an amendment.
You don’t necessarily for say universal background checks or assult weapon ban but bottom line it’s a deeply divided issue with 20% of each party completely divided on but each small percentage weld a lot of power for politicians to get reelected. Politicians on both sides don’t have the guts that is the sad truth so the killings will continue.
You walk into a store that sells firearms…
and want to purchase one.
you pick it out…
then what happens?
Obviously you just pay and leave. Easy peasy.
I’m not even sure you have to pay. You simply say I am a republican and they give you one.
Good point. If it’s a ghost gun they can’t see it so therefore you don’t have to pay.
What’s the difference between a ghost gun and a regular gun?
A ghost gun goes Boo when you pull the trigger.
Or Obama.
He was a fraud, doesn’t count.
You know thats not what he’s saying imp man. Your strawman arguments are weak, keep them to yourself. They arent happening daily, they are just being reported on repeat daily. As well, we aren’t saying that reform would be a bad thing, Im fine with stricter control as far as WHO can own an gun, based on medical history, back ground check, mental health history, hell even social media scanning. I would be down for that. But calling for “Hurr Durr ban all guns” is daft as all hell and it shows your failure to grasp the bigger picture. Stop parroting CNN and Twitter headlines and think for yourself once. Jesus.
You don’t tell me what to keep little man get that straight. I’ll speak it at you and you’ll take it. Not one democrat lawmaker has asked for a complete ban on all guns. Not one.
Well, you are correct that a dem hasn’t proposed to ban all guns at once.
They just keep banning various guns, one at a time. Anyone with half a brain knows this scam.
Defiantly a mental health problem…that is a normalcy in society since the beginning of time and is not the problem but the symptom. What is the new factor and problem are weapons that can lethally kill in high volume. That’s not cars, knives, blades etc….it’s guns period.
Mental health issues are the problem, the cause, not the symptom. The symptom is violence, genital mutilation, etc. Treat the cause not the symptom. Guns aren’t even the symptom, just one of the tools used by some. If you outlaw hammer use in construction, people will just use screws. Remove one tool, it will be replaced by another.
Good god the pivot to inanimate objects as a comparison in any way is ridiculous. It’s rather simple but lost on those brainwashed like you….until guns were available at the levels they are currently we did not have mass shooting every other day and certainly not in schools used to kill our children. You’re ok with it I get it.
Same could be said for the internet because mass amounts of guns hve been around a loooooong time.
since 1972 it’s been about the same.
A gun is an inanimate object doofus. Until we normalized and accepted mental illnesses as normal we didn’t have mass shootings. Until we normalized single parent families and drug use we didn’t have multiple shootings every day in big cities with the most gun control. The problem is a societal one. Not a metal, inanimate object.
lol so all inanimate objects have the same lethality?? Is that what you’re saying?
What Bow Said. He beat me to it. Have you even fired a fire arm before?
How defiant is it? Is it definitely defiant?
auto correct…sorry I’m not proof reading every comment for the grammar nazi’s here.
Spelling Nazi.
You can’t help yourself can you.
Oh no, I used a period instead of a question mark…I hope you can handle it.
I think it’s funny.
I laugh harder when you get bent out of shape like this
We know
Forgot the comma after ‘yourself’ – separate clauses.
NOW I’m a grammar Nazi.
Guns have always well always in the last 30-40 years at least very accessible for both legal and illegal purchases. So why were there not a bunch or roughly the same amount of mass shootings in the 80s? If guns are the issue and they were just as available in the 80s what gives?
It’s climate change.
Which we all know is Ponder’s fault
Or the toxins from all the gas stoves.
Acid rain tainted brains.
(hey, it rhymes)
Speaking of Acid. Anyone ever checked these guys out? Complete old school 70s rock/metal throw back
https://twitter.com/andrew_krammer/status/1654088914737528835?s=46&t=Q891Eaqn4KCwWb4d_1l_Uw
I forgot to rsvp to camp.
Lol
Hey…we at least can be thankful Cine’s injury wasn’t nearly as bad as it appeared. If he can evolve in to the player we think he can be with Harrison we could have a stout backend. Harrison has not lost much if anything.
Probably should wait to make any judgement on this until the real games start.
Typically with medical related injuries and recoveries you can develop a fairly accurate prognosis during the rehab process on what the eventual % of full recovery will be achieved. The fact he looks and moves normally with no added injury site support is a very good sign.
And also he has yet to show that he belongs on an NFL field. Until that happens. Meh
Yeah.
I like the wait and see approach.
Hopefully he will be a stud.
Man, if he could come back 100%, he and Smith would be a couple of thumpers.
He has yet to make any major PLAY on an NFL field. We have no idea how he’s going to do on the grid iron. And its not smart to assume
And watching Ed run a defense doesn’t instill confidence he made the right decisions last season.
Think he was an Ed pick? Or a KAM pick?
He was drafted last year.
but as we saw…
Ed was not a good DC
I said if. Try reading.
NO!
Did you watch smith’s tackling in that playoff game against the Giants. Didn’t quite seem like the thumper he used to be.
He got flagged too many times for thumping……trying to dial it back a little to avoid extending the drive.
Correct.
Which is a goddamn shame.
If you don’t think Smith hits hard, then I don’t know what to tell you.
I think there was a time when safeties could come up and thump the hell out of receivers right after a catch. Smith was a really big hitter at this. this is illegal now. A thumper to me is someone who can come up, put his shoulder into a ball carrier and drop him in his tracks. I did not see much of that last year from Smith or anyone else on the defense.
Maybe go back and watch the Dallas/49ers playoff game. The 49er DB’s were throwing Zeke around like a rag doll – that’s thumping.
Defense sucked almost as much as Kirk in that Cowboys game.
Not sure how Smith’s thumping got tied to Kirk in the cowboy game.
Maybe pointing to a random game as proof of a person’s inability to play is flawed?
All I said was that IF Cine returns to form, THEN we’ll have two hard hitters in the secondary. That’s it. If you don’t think those two hit hard, then we can agree to disagree (and you’ll be wrong).
My error – ways speaking more broadly. I’m just not sure Smith’s particular style of hard hitting is as applicable as it was a few year’s ago. And Cine, just haven’t seen him play enough.
And while speaking broadly, we were a poor defense for a variety of reasons, scheme,etc. But I would maintain we are the poorest when it comes to level of physicality and this simply has to be better.
Correct. The problem is, learning how to be physical without getting a flag. It’s getting pretty hard to do. Are defensive players gun shy ?
(Pun intended for today)
Perhaps, but doesn’t seem to bother the 49ers too much. It’s like they want to start hitting the other team the minute they get off the bus.
Cine needs to do more than return to form, he needs to be better than he was before the injury considering he couldn’t beat out Bynum.
Grain of salt with Ed running that Defense.
he was a doofus.
Thursday already. I’m pretty sure weeks are five minutes long currently.
If you don’t like the level of talent and professionalism that Kirk Cousins brings to our beloved Vikings then you sir are not a person of reasonable expectations. He is simply the best QB this franchise has had. We would be fortunate to sign him to a longterm deal.
Read and understand what he is saying below, find the honesty and the clarity of his words in this moment that is absolutely the way you want your QB, your team leader, to handle the current situation. I’ll say it again, you want to belittle and chastise this man for doing everything the right way, the best way, that says a lot more about the person you are than the derogatory things you say about him.
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-Kirk Cousins Knows He Has to Earn a Long-Term Future With the Vikings-Cousins is entering the final season of his contract for the first time in his Minnesota tenure.
“It’s more the norm than the exception,” Cousins said in a Wednesday press conference. “I think the exception is that you have something penciled in for future years. Most of our locker have no idea what’s coming in three or four months, let alone three or four years or next year. So, I feel like I’m one of the guys, like we’re all in this together, that’s the way this thing works, and I think it’s part of what makes this league great. Because everybody has an edge. Everybody’s working, everybody’s got something to prove. Nobody can operate with entitlement or comfort or put in less than their best, and I think that’s the best thing about our league.”
“I want to be in Minnesota,” he said. “Yeah, that’s kind of a no-brainer, so hopefully we can earn the right to do that. I’ve always said that. When I say I would like to be in Minnesota, there’s a lot of things I would like to have, but you’ve got to go earn it. That’s kind of where I’m at.”
I do not dispute his character, or effort.
I do not think he has the ability to improvise as well as some QBs.
I think this team needs a QB that has the ability to improvise, and make something out of nothing when a play goes to shit. If they had a better defense and O line, things could work out. Not seeing that happen.
Hated his first contract.
Hated his first extension even more.
He is currently on a deal that is good for the team and himself. That makes me less ragey. Although I hate the no trade clause.
Vikes will add a 2-3 year extension prior to the start of the season, once they realize they drafted a backup QB.
Likely.
I have always said Kirk is a good person. I like him at the podium.
What I do NOT believe is his “I want to retire a Viking” BS.
TIMELINE:
1.)He said he wanted to retire a Viking last fall or shortly at the end of the 2022 season.
2.)After reports of contract negotiations, Kirk wanted 2024 and 2025 guaranteed. KAM only wanted 2024 guaranteed with team “flexibility” in 2025. So Kirk chose NOT to retire a Viking because he wanted his terms.
3.)Then, Kirks agent likely leaked out that Kirk was “offering a discount” to show how “reasonable” he was during negotiations.
4.)Kirk again now says he wants to end his career in Minnesota.
You are a sucker if you think Kirk is this “team” guy.
He is not. He is likely shooting for a “franchise tag” number.
Certainly he has the right to get as much money as possible.
Just say it then. Just say, I want to retire a Viking at my price.
He doesn’t. He is snake oil and you fall for it.
Fact remains he and his agent did offer a discount but asked for an extra year guarantee. That is not unreasonable by any stretch of the imagination.
Sure Vikings don’t have to agree to it but this has more to do with the Vikings being unreasonable than Cousins team. Kirk offered them a discount in return for an extra year, Vikings want their cake and eat it too by signing a top 7 QB at a discount with less years guaranteed. That is not Kirk’s issue or lack of honesty it’s the Vikings front office.
I don’t know who is reasonable or not.
Fact remains, Kirk doesn’t just want to retire a Viking. He has money limit.
Just say it.
“I don’t know who is reasonable or not.” But in fact you do – you are saying Kirk is isn’t telling the truth when he says he wants to retire as a Viking.
Not the whole truth.
Why did Kirk say no to Kwesi’s offer?
Because we all know it’s not JUST about retiring a Viking. It’s about the money as well.
Just be honest and say it.
Could it be a three versus two year issue? Maybe not so much about actual amount but security and Kirk could very much want to retire a Viking.
Security?
What kind of security?
Financial Security? Yes.
That’s why he wanted 2025 fully guaranteed.
They were in discussions on a two year extension. (Allegedly) Just not the financial security Kirk wanted.
I have no problem that Kirk wants to get paid.
Just be honest and admit it.
“what kind of Security” Are you serious – do you like poll vaulting over mouse shit
You are the one who said Kirk wants security.
Please define what that means.
For example off my head, like maybe he wanted to know he had a job for three years versus two.
A 3 year contract would allow that
even if it wasn’t guaranteed in the third year.
gotta earn it like he said yesterday.
*pole
I think security is not the right word…
Kirk is worth 100s of millions of dollars.
Yes Surly….it’s Kirk Cousins debate episode 101,986.
A couple weeks and we’ll hit 102k!
Hell, we could get there later today.
What is a discount?
This is the point i’ve been making for a while that we’re in uncharted waters as far as Kirk goes and his contract.
2 years? Sure. Thats reasonable. but anything more than two years guaranteed is pushing it.
I understand them not drafting a QB this class and it makes sense why they waited, there are much better prospects next year. It would be hard to believe they can come in and replace Kirks production…
but from a value stand point…
This prospect is getting the keys to a high octane offense.
If Kirk splits..where does he go to play with the same level of talent he has here? All world WR couple of All pro Tackles and an All pro TE?
No where.
If you were to believe what DE says, he doesn’t care about really retiring a Viking, only the money. If that’s true, there are always, every year in theNFL, five or six teams looking for a good QB. He can easily find a spot.
You’re not wrong. There will be teams looking for a qb and there always but that wasn’t my point.
It’s that he won’t have the weapons he does here.
I don’t get the luxury to decide what it is Kirk wants.
He may want to retire a Viking, he may want more money, he may just like wearing purple… I don’t know.
He’ll find a job.. but the chance of it being as nice of a spot as MN are very very slim.
Kirk isn’t a dummie and knows you can’t have everything. If. and that’s a big if, the money is the big deal for him, I’m pretty sure he fully understands he won’t have the best WR et all in football wherever he may go.
You’re correct. Tough to get your cake and eat it too.
Thats why I’m in the offer a 3/125-135m dollar deal with only 2 years guaranteed…if he plays well the next 3 years they won’t move on but if he doesn’t? They have an option.
Offering a QB, who will turn 36 by the time this deal starts, 2 years fully guaranteed is a pretty good deal. getting him for 30m is not reasonable especially with the quality of the play he’s put up..and this year could be a career year for him to back his case even more.
But his age plays a factor and it changes how long you SHOULD guarantee a deal for him.
36 for a guy like Kirk that doesn’t drink, smoke and take mind altering drugs in dark rooms I’d say he has 5+ years left easy. He can pocket pass doesn’t need his legs as much to perform his skill set so he’s the perfect QB to give a 4-5 year deal.
You sit here and say “Kirk won’t find as high octane an offense as the Vikings” Well pal way more unlikely the Vikings find a QB anywhere close to Kirks skill sets. Thus they should bend 100% and they will. Wait and see.
We saw what happened when Keenum took over in 2017.
Didn’t need to be Bradford level good, but just good enough with the weapons around.
36 is 36 and I would bet that the vast majority of starting QBs aren’t doing drugs or smoking.
Give me the list of QB who have played at a high level, over 36, and haven’t won an MVP, been OPOTY, or been to a conference championship game ever in their career and received a deal in the top 10 of their position group…
There isn’t any.
Yet. There isn’t any yet. Kirk will change that.
He might, but I put my contract prediction above.
And it isn’t unreasonable from either side.
Thinking Kirk should play for 30m is silly.
Keenuts isn’t half the QB Cousins is. He was limited to scramble find a guy with a shit offensive line, as usual, and could not execute a complex offense nearly as well as Cousins. This isn’t 2017 so quit living in the past to justify the present and trying to sell getting a QB with less talent which is ridiculous to say in the first place. WE HAVE A TALENTED QB why the fuck would you want a less talented one?
Now Kirk’s over the hill apparently lol…good lord the lengths you guys will go to justify the hate for him.
I have no hate for Kirk but you’re not going to buy a car with 200k miles for the price of a 2 year old car because its never broken down.
I also didn’t say Keenum was, I said he stepped into an offense with weapons and made things happen which is entirely possible for a qb to do with the playmakers we have around them.
Keenum has went further in the playoffs than Kirk. Not bad for somebody who hasn’t had nearly as many opportunities and “isn’t half the QB”
LOL right.
I wasn’t digging Kirk.
Keenum also can play the position but he isn’t a top qb in the league. He’s made a good chunk of change as a backup.
For fun…lets see what their is.
We’ll exclude Washington just beacuse.
DET – Goff
GB- Love
CHI – Fields
PHI – Hurts
NYG – Jones
DAL – Dak
TAM – ?
CAR – Young
NOR – Car
ATL – ?
SFO – ?
SEA – Geno
LAR – Stafford
AZ – Kyler
BUF – Allen
MIA – Tua
NYJ – Rodgers
NE – Jones/?
CIN – Burrow
BAL – Jackson
PIT – ?
CLE – Watson
JAX – Lawerance
TEN – Tanne
IND – Richardson
HOU – Stroud
KC – Mahomes
LAC – Herbert
DEN – Wilson
LVR – Jimmy
So… Of the ? we have Tampa, Atlanta, SF, Pit, and maybe the Pats. Do any of those offenses compare to the Vikings? Maybe ATL. Maybe.
TEN is up in the air with Tannehill but do they pivot in bring in another vet when they drafted Lance?
SF is going to run into cap constraints which are fixable but it’ll make for some tough decisions.
Where else could he end up? ATL might be looking to “play” for a high 1st round pick this year and get their QBOTF to pair with all their young playmakers…but as far as the rest of the list he could be able to go find some more money but the quality fo the offense he’s in wouldn’t be up to the level he’s at right now.
Not lance…Levis. My brain had a dumb.
I was wondering. Also Pit just drafted a QB. They’re not moving on for at least a couple years. It’s much more likely that the Bears are ready to move on from Fields next year.
Well. if we’re going to nit, Tua in Miami – one big hit, nd JimmynG won’t cut it in Vegas – too weak an arm.
Yeah, Tua is a stiff wind from jelly brain. Rodgers may only play one year and then the Jets are left with Wilson. Geno very well could fall back to earth this year.
MIA would be interesting but they also seem like players to make a big move for another QB. We’ll know more as the offseason goes on if Tua gets a deal or not.
You and I talked about the age thing a few days back. We aren’t far apart. Your list of teams and talent level is absolutely correct, But it was stated that Kirk only cares about the money. Thus I’m pretty sure he fully understand more than likely wherever he goes will probably have less talent – save for SF
For sure.
I don’t think its a money thing but normal negotiations being made out to something they’re not by people who are making money when people click to read.
Barring a huge collapse in play..or injury Kirk will be around for a little while.
They’ll get a deal done and I think it’ll be two guaranteed because they still have to deal with that extra 28.5m in dead cap as well as not sink their team.
Like I said… 3/125-135m with around 100m guaranteed.
I don’t really think it’s that much of a money thing either. Kirk wants to remain a Viking and believe at this point the team wants him. They will get this worked out.
That’s two of us.
And there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth…but that comes with the territory I suppose.
Have you followed Kirk his entire career?
2016 – Played under the franchise tag in DC. Didn’t want to sign what was offered to him.
2017- Played under the franchise tag in DC.
Didn’t want to sign what was offered to him.
2018- Signed with Minnesota to be the “final” super bowl piece for a fully Guaranteed contract. He did take a little less with MN than what the NYJ offered.
2020 – Signed another Guaranteed Extension.
2022 – Signed a one year Guaranteed Extension with a no trade clause.
As you can see, Kirk cares about the money.
If you can’t see that, and think Kirk is the greatest and cares nothing about the money, I can’t help you.
You can be fooled by it. I’m not.
Ddid I ever say Kirk doesn’t csre about money – this is not absolute black/ white. He’s a professional athlete that gets paid “money”. They all CARE about money. but maybe, if you can handle a human being balancing two thoughts at once, at this point in his life money is now less of an issue and retiring as a Viking has a larger importance. And if you can’t balance sometimes competing factors when someone considers employment opportunities, I can’t help you.
And if you ever want to talk about Cousins/Redskins relations let me know – we can go to the graduate level.
Finally some truth.
Yes. They all care about money.
Which is why I don’t take Cousins PR statement about retiring a Viking as a stand alone statement. It’s not 100% true.
Well no shit! If we are to take that everything one says must be 100% perfectly exact – well. we’re all going to spend most of our lives in the confessional.
Waking up to see Lifer is now a Trump loving, God Fearing, no grilling skills kirk fan…
So that’s what you want this morning huh….
Everything the right way …
means…
Everything.
🙂
We’re talking everything football not “If I die, I die” situations bud.
LOLOLOL
Words mean things.
Don’t chastise the man for doing everything the right way.
“I want to be in Minnesota. Because they’ve dumped boat loads of cash on me with nothing to show for it. And Im hoping that continues until I retire” – Is how you can sum up that quote.
LOL
The 15 Days to Flatten the Curve that began on March 16, 2020, stretched to 1,141 days.
I think many, by now, know that this whole thing never was about a “virus” or “saving lives”. Many governments around the world used this lie at the same time to start off the p(l)andemic, using the same words. Perfectly orchestrated.
I’m doing my part.
That’s not good enough. Where is your mask you denier?
Yep.
Mostly about power.
Control
I had a doctor appt yesterday and I was shocked when I went into the clinic (a Mayo affiliate). They had taken down the mandatory mask signs and now went to the more reasonable policy of requesting people to wear a mask if they have a cough or are immunocompromised
Surprising indeed.
Maybe just maybe you wingers are propagating the myth that masks are still be widely mandated just to have something about the left to whine about.
Well no. They were mandated. It was not a myth.
Don’t need to fabricate anything to find something stupid the left is trying to do. Just today I’ve seen a lefty in MN was trying to remove language from a law that would have protected pedophiles, FWS wants to ban all lead ammunition and fishing lures, Biden views hunters as “an obstacle”, trying to strip funding from a Catholic hospital over a sacred candle, that’s all without actively looking for stupidity. It’s rampant.
LOL, there’s a smorgasbord of shit available at any given time
They did that in Duluth at the beginning of April.
Maybe they were waiting on flu season to pass? I’m not sure.
The hospital in GDV I work at made masks optional 14 months ago. I rarely see them anymore, I’ve only had one patient request I put one on during the consent process (I always wear a mask once we start a sterile procedure even as routine as a thyroid FNA).
Had a virtual meeting with some coworkers in BIL on teams yesterday and they were almost tearfully rejoicing being able to see each other’s faces again, as the mandate was only recently (two weeks) lifted. Mind you are still supposed to wear a mask in all face to face encounters but enforcement is lacking.
Thank goodness I moved. I actually had one of the screeners scold me one day for riding in on a bicycle without a mask on (as in I donned my mask just outside the door)…and another day I went for a bike ride over my lunch break and when I returned I bypassed the temperature check station (once a day requirement) and got yelled at for that as well. Nothing gives ya the warm and fuzzies more than someone with a HS diploma lecturing ya on infectious disease.
So you want more of my medical advice and takes?
Yes please.
The best place to mask is in the swimming pool
Oh shoot. I didn’t know that. I do gargle with the water in the public hot tub as it has chlorine in it that will kill germs.
That too!
i was going there next.
a mouthful a day keeps the gingervitis away.
That made me think of this
Good morning, SKOL!
Star Wars is stupid.
Still better than watching the news
Indeed, by a country mile.
pfft
Star Wars blows. And its been dead for 40+ years and Disney keeps trotting its corpse out on screens every year. Let it be dead.
LOTR >>>>>>> Star Wars alll day every day. We do not claim the Hobbit Series lol.
LOTR sucks.
Have to disagree here.
fart noise
One thing I agree with is that Disney is killing the franchise. Otherwise, may the 4th be with you.