Minnesota Vikings Discussion – SkolAsylum: 08 Dec 2023

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Coming out of the bye week, it’s been a while since we’ve seen Vikings football. I’m excited for Sunday’s game, and I’m hopeful that KOC can figure out an offensive scheme that will help Josh Dobbs find success. I don’t care to sit through another offensive performance like we saw against the Bears, yuck.

Minnesota Vikings Discussion Topic of the Day

Justin Jefferson makes his post-injury debut against the Raiders on Sunday. What are you expecting to see from him, production-wise? (How many yards, etc)

Media selection

Minnesota Vikings News:

The Pioneer Press reported that Jordan Hicks could have lost his right leg if not for emergency surgery.

Vikings.com tells you how to watch, listen, or stream Sunday afternoon’s Vikings @ Raiders game. Also, KOC explained his decision to stick with Dobbs for Sunday’s game.

After his absence due to injury, Justin Jefferson revised his goal to 1,000 yards for this season.

The Patriots defeated the Steelers on Thursday Night Football last night, per NFL.com. That was the Steelers’ second straight loss to a two-win team, they were defeated by the Cardinals last week.

Zach Wilson will be the Jets’ starting quarterback…….again, from CBS Sports.

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bowbunch
bowbunch
8 December 2023 3:45 pm

Mjolnir
8 December 2023 3:32 pm

It was all a dream….

Vikings @ Las Vegas. Dobbs doesn’t disappoint – turns the ball over 3 times, manages to run for a score and find JJ on a blown coverage – two TD’s and another from Josh Metellus returning a Danielle Hunter forced fumble is enough to carry the day. Vikes win 21-13. On to Cincinnati….

Vikings @ Bengals. Jake Browning lived up to his name and is a gunslinger…. for a half. Bengals up 21-0 with 10 minutes to go on the strength of 2 long balls to Higgins and Chase and a pick 6 from Dobbs. Enter Mullens. Mullens concussed on his only play from scrimmage as Ed Ingram steps on his foot, he twists into Trey Hendrickson, ball pops free and Cam Taylor-Britt takes it back to put the Icky Shuffler’s up 28-0. Enter Jaren Hall. Hall finds Addison deep for one long score, Ty Chandler on a swinging gate screen for another and scrambles his way to a 3rd. Metellus comes up big again and blocks a punt out of the end zone. Vikes get the free kick with 2:10 left. A symphony of quick boundary throws and inside runs gets Minny to the 6 – 1st and goal with :38 left. Handoff to Mattison who fumbles, Hall grabs the carom and dives across the goalline. 2pt try stuffed but Vikes hold onto win 29-28. KOC to ‘evaluate’ the QB situation going forward.

Christmas Eve. Detroit in town. Hall named starter. Finds JJ early and often. Defense dominates in all 3 phases of the game. Kene takes the 2nd half kickoff back 106 for a score. Kids in Minny go home laughing knowing Santa could never top the gift of a Vikes win on Christmas Eve. Vikes win 31-6. Dobbs released, immediately signs a deal with NASA for the Mars missions, they spin him around in a chair, drop him off in New Mexico and he’s never found.

FTP in town for NYE. KOC, with blessings from KAM, devises a game plan for JH to get the ball to JJ, JA and KJ ASAP leaving FTP no choice but to STFU and GTFO. Defense dominates. Vikes pitch a shutout on the strength of an NFL record 8 sacks by Danielle Hunter – all but locking up DMVP for the man. Vikes win 27-0. Happy New Year indeed!

Last week in Detroit. Game gets moved to the SNF Finale. Detroit puts up a fight, Hall shows his rookie side with 3 turnovers. Defense and Motor City Dan Campbell’s dumb decision to go for it twice on 4th down inside their own 30 backfires miserably both times. CJ Ham brings home the bacon with a 1 yard plunge to steal the game. Vikes win 24-20.

PLAYOFFS!

Wildcard Round and it’s Detroit again!

This one isn’t close. No typical one and done. All cylinders fire. Chandler runs for 125 and 2 scores. Hall throws for 275 and another. Defense scores on a Khyris Tonga 65 yard scoop and score where he carries 3 tacklers across the goalline and needs the oxygen mask for the remainder of the game. Vikes win 38-13. Dan Campbell punches a Gatorade machine, no charges filed. Campbell fired the next day. Lions hire the Gatorade machine.

Divisional Round. Vikings @ Dallas. Revenge for last year. Flores comes after Dak early and often. Two pick 6’s by the defense in the 1st quarter – Evans & Pace. The JJ/CD discussion is settled as Jefferson catches 12 balls for 240 – breaking AC’s record. Lamb records more catches than drops, has a bad fumble and gets a text at halftime that his girlfriend is leaving him and he left the garage door open and there are leaves everywhere. The final seconds tick off as the FBI and Dallas Metro PD enter Jerry Jones’s suite, asking questions about humps of dirt in the west Texas desert. Bad day for Dem Boyz. Vikes win 48-3.

NFCCG. Green Bay @ Minnesota. Hall knocked out early with a high ankle sprain. Enter Mullens. Mullens puts on a clinic…. Of ineptitude. 2 picks, a bobbled snap and Minny is trailing 14-0 at halftime. Jaren Hall, performing on the strength of playing in front of his grandkids, sucks it up and puts together a warrior performance in the 2nd half. Finds KJ down the seam for a long score. Shakes off a Quay Walker free run to throw a dart to Hock for another touchdown. (Walker storms off the field, gets an Uber and beats the team home to GB) Harrison Smith, playing in front of his great-grandchildren, tops off his HoF career with a pick 6 for the game winner. Vikes are SB bound! 911 calls involving farm animals skyrocket in the Green Bay Metropolitan Area.

THE 🦉

Minnesota vs Kansas City. Taylor Swift appears….. in a vintage Moss jersey and sitting with JJ’s family. Kelce is too overwhelmed to take the field. Mahomes makes uncharacteristic mistakes. Former Viking Jerick McKinnon has a crucial fumble in the 4th quarter with the game tied. Vikes ball with about a minute left. Hall scrambles for a first down. Finds JJ on the sideline for another. One quick inside run to line up the ball for Joseph to attempt the game winner from 54…

Snap…. spot… Joseph swings thru it….

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand……..?!?!?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 3:37 pm

I am going to get a beer, maybe two, and read this again. Sort of need the alcohol thinking about the 54 yarder.
By the way, hve you been drinking – that’s quite a dream,but really good.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 3:40 pm

He’s got some really good brownies top in even better gummy bears.

Mjolnir
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 4:23 pm

That my friend, would be the effects of high quality marijuana and the afternoon off. Just me and the mutt and my imagination…..

freezeyface
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 3:38 pm

my two favorite parts:

he left the garage door open and there are leaves everywhere

that would piss me off….

Taylor Swift appears….. in a vintage Moss jersey and sitting with JJ’s family. Kelce is too overwhelmed to take the field

this made me chuckle

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 3:39 pm

Nice Mjolnir… well done!

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Mjolnir
9 December 2023 8:39 am

…and he splits the goal posts and the Vikes finally win a Super Bowl! Mass chaos throughout Minnesota!

LOL!

Good dream!!

No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:27 pm

So KOC says he has to adjust the offense, and the rest of the offense needs to do their part so Dobbs can “thrive”.

I would guess (truly only a guess) that KOC wants to utilize Dobbs running ability more effectively. To me, that would mean the Vikings will incorporate RPO’s into the offense. Those plays weren’t going to fit Cousins skillset (obviously) so we didn’t have them in the playbook.

The question is, can the offensive line and the receivers adjust to this type of scheme and make it go during a bye week?

We’re about to see what KOC has developed so Dobbs can “thrive”.

freezeyface
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:31 pm

if dobbs goes out there, doesn’t turn the ball over (seems impossible) but also doesn’t throw a td and throws for say.,…175…

does he get the next start?

or will he have to kind of light things on fire (in a good way) to keep starting

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  freezeyface
8 December 2023 2:33 pm

If we win, he’s covered.

freezeyface
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 2:34 pm

but what if he throws 4 picks, and hall comes in and wins it for us….

is he still covered??

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  freezeyface
8 December 2023 2:36 pm

Isn’t Mullens already been named the backup?
Regardless, if he throws 4 picks and the backup comes in and wins the game, Dobbs sits.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  freezeyface
8 December 2023 2:37 pm

I know this is a political answer but here goes. Dobbs has to do the things KOC is looking for him to do. That means run the plays as called, and as designed. If it’s an RPO, make the right decision with the ball. If it’s throwing into zone coverage, it means find the right guy to go to. If it’s JJ on the deep crosser and he’s there, deliver the ball.

It boils down to can he run the offense that according to KOC, is being established for him?

freezeyface
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 3:07 pm

so in otherwords, Dobbs, in this scenario, is the manchurian candidate

don’t think, just do and do exactly what we (koc) tells you

i like it

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:41 pm

Do you mean tradional RPO’s where the QB puts the ball in/out of RB’s hands and then maybe runs himself or throws.
If so, that play is frought with the possibility of a fumble – it requires a lot of practice. And we have a QB and RB that both fumble a lot on regular plays. I wouldn’t fo this play, not with these two.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 2:43 pm

Exactly. This team has had a pure pocket passer under center for 6 seasons. Suddenly changing to an RPO attack might be a bad plan, poorly executed.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:44 pm

What if it is well executed?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
8 December 2023 2:45 pm

Then hallelujah!!!

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:47 pm

What would be better, a bad plan well executed or a good plan poorly executed?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
8 December 2023 2:50 pm

None of the above

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:52 pm

That’s not an option.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
8 December 2023 2:53 pm

I make my own options

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:54 pm

Don’t you thinbk it’s a bit of chalk board football. The OC draws up the play and it’s a TD. The DC draws up a play and it’s a 10 yard loss.
What ever play is called, you have to execute it and if you do that well, it will work.
Execution is king.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 2:57 pm

No, what if your OC draws up a dive play where the nose guard is unblocked?? Even if well executed it has little chance of success.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 3:03 pm

How could you draw up a draw up the middle and leave the nose guard unblocked?
But for both of you – my point. You can draw up a great play, you can draw up a crap play, and for sure they both will fail without proper execution.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 2:57 pm

You can execute a draw play perfectly and be dropped for a 3 yard loss…

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:59 pm

Not if it’s executed properly,

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 3:02 pm

The defensive player who blitzes up the middle and tackles the RB is generally not designed into a draw play JR. The draw, like a screen, is meant to draw the D-line in and then the RB bursts past them. A blitzing safety can, and will blow up a perfectly executed draw play.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 3:07 pm

You got me and you could probably certain screens and trap plays.
But regardless of playcall, if you don’t execute it properly, it will fail.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 3:18 pm

That is true… call the perfect play, and screw up the execution, it’s not gonna work out well.

NoDakRube
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:59 pm

That is what I just said in two sentences instead of one…show off.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 3:03 pm

Laughing…

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
8 December 2023 2:53 pm

Like everything, the answer is nuanced…it depends mostly on how bad the bad plan is and/or how good the good plan is.

We could, for example, execute a national plan to open our borders and allow 6 million illegal aliens in during a 4 year period…even if we executed that plan perfectly it would not be better than the plan where we strive to minimize illegal aliens entering our country no matter how poorly we execute it.

This was just for an example and @it has no relationship to actual world events@

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 2:56 pm

You’re working this hard Rube… real hard.

NoDakRube
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:58 pm

I am a hard working fellow….well, except for today where my office “to-do list” was very short.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
8 December 2023 2:47 pm

Well executed – like 8 times. But there’s also 3 fumbles.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:41 pm

KOC will give us aheavy dose of Mattison with his 2.3 YPC. Like to see that McBride get a look, something different.

norseman1
norseman1
8 December 2023 2:20 pm

47 degrees. I’m dreaming of a brown Xmas.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  norseman1
8 December 2023 2:21 pm

74 degrees right now in Tampa…

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:22 pm

Just had to rub it in, didn’t you?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  norseman1
8 December 2023 2:28 pm

Laughing… like my mother always told me… “make good choices”.

Surly Viking
Admin
8 December 2023 2:15 pm

Survived Christmas shopping at the Mall of America today.
Reading all the doom about Sunday.

While I expect anything can happen, I really think the Vikings will win this game, even with Crosby playing and Dobbs trying to fumble away the game.

This is the script, Vikings end up needing a win in the last game vs Detroit to make the playoffs.

Detroit will have clinched seeding of 2 or 3 and be resting all their starters.

Vikings lose by 20 to end the year.

No longer New Vikings Fan
8 December 2023 2:14 pm

Dobbs is sort of an odd duck. He’s been in the league since 2017 and been on seven teams. Two of them twice. Nine moves in seven seasons is a lot. In those seven seasons, he’s played in 20 games, including the four he’s played for the Vikings.

What to make of him then? He’s a good guy, and he has enough talent for teams to add him to their rosters, but this year due to the injuries to Kyler Murray and Kirk Cousins, is the first year he’s been a “starter”. Thus he’s like one of the most experienced rookie QB’s ever.

Is he a real starter though? Is he a guy who can execute an NFL offense at a high level week in and week out? So far this year, the answer is no, he cannot. Both for the Cardinals and the Vikings he has had real up’s and down’s.

Vikings need him to start being a LOT more “up” than “down”.

norseman1
norseman1
8 December 2023 2:13 pm

Another quiet Friday?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 1:08 pm

Well that’s. wonderful.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 2:29 pm

I meant it like – shit!

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 1:36 pm

Good thing we gots them good tackles.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 2:30 pm

Indeed, although O’Neil seemed a little rough last week.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 3:09 pm

He did seem a bit off.

Wrenage
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 12:45 pm

I am very busy trying to pinpoint the exact moment life passed me by…

I’ve narrowed it down to September 2014.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Wrenage
8 December 2023 12:47 pm

Wow! which date in September.

Wrenage
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 12:59 pm

Maybe September 24. Possibly, around 11 a.m.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  Wrenage
8 December 2023 1:04 pm

I knew I did something that day.

Wrenage
Reply to  VikingPhilip
8 December 2023 1:37 pm

So it was YOU!

NoDakRube
Reply to  Wrenage
8 December 2023 1:20 pm

its an interesting thought…at what point in your life did your upward arc (family, work, etc.) plateau? for some of the younger folks on here it hasn’t yet.

Apparently Wrenage’s was September 24th, 2014.

Wrenage
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 1:39 pm

I remember it well. I had just come to a big decision in life and was ready to move into the unknown.

Five minutes later I got a series of texts out of the blue that shot everything down and set me on the road that led to today and onward.

It’s not really a complaint, though. I’m generally content. Man plans and God laughs, and all that!

VikingPhilip
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 1:08 pm

I’m about ready to take a nap.

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bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 1:15 pm

Can’t get back to something you weren’t doing in the first place.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  bowbunch
8 December 2023 5:09 pm

Exactly.

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 12:01 pm

Football Gods help them if he has to touch a football for them.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 1:38 pm

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norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 2:15 pm

Addition by subtraction.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 2:26 pm

Maybe Queasy can find one in the draft.

VikingPhilip
8 December 2023 11:47 am

I’m trying to decide which is worse, political discussion or fantasy football discussions.

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freezeyface
Reply to  VikingPhilip
8 December 2023 11:52 am

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NoDakRube
8 December 2023 10:57 am

Discussion Question of the day was how many yards from JJ on Sunday….

I have no confidence in Dobby to throw the ball downfield,
So I predicting around 40 total yards for JJ.

Going with 30 from Addison,
65 for Hock

And 70 for Osborn the RBs and other TEs which gets us to around 205 through the air.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 11:12 am

I don’t know man. JJ is so damn smart and I could see big things happening if Dobbs extends a play and that breaks JJ free. I am probably a glutton for punishment but why not see the bright side!

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 11:18 am

why not see the bright side!

Because it’s the Vikings and there is no bright side

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 11:35 am

Yep, I will likely find some yard work to do, clean the garage or go to the hills for the day and just catch the game on the radio.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 11:22 am

It’s plays like what you’re describing that I am hoping for. We haven’t really seen what JJ can do in a legit ‘scramble’ drill with an actual scrambler. I also think a few big plays involving JJ will come in this fashion, or will have to for Minny to be successful in the passing game. Dobbs lacks the requisite velocity for 2nd level throws – he can throw on the run pretty well though (a few examples this season with Hock and Addison)

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 11:24 am

Or Dobby will scramble and then throw it to a defender or get stripped.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 11:30 am

But why? JJ is an elite WR and can get wide open without the need for the scramble drill, Won’t simply just throwing him the ball “on script” work?

Mjolnir
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 11:33 am

Maybe – but again, Dobbs doesn’t have the arm strength for those second level throws. I’m not saying scrambling will be the game plan – I’m sure KOC will try and get the ball to JJ thru normal play designs (skeptical it can be done with Dobbs) I’m just saying the scramble drill drill is where he could thrive.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 11:40 am

I’m OK with the scramble drill – for him to run the ball. But I think throwing on the run is tough, for even really good QB.s with arm talent.
I also think the other guys watch film and will try to make him throw from the pocket to beat them. I’d also guess they will stack the middle of the field some and make him throw to the boundaries.

Mjolnir
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 12:37 pm

Those are the throws that scare me the most – boundary throws. Deep outs and back shoulder hitches or digs. All because Dobbs doesn’t have the arm strength required to beat moderately good coverage. If JJ or another receiver can get separation it’ll help some, but it’s those throws to the boundary that are prime for a DB to jump and take back the other way.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 12:47 pm

Exactly this.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 12:50 pm

And across the middle. The only thing worse than a late throw is a late throw across the middle – this often ends in a TE sticking his hands out and behind him in an effort to stab the ball and more often the ball gets popped into the air – prime Oskie country.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 12:55 pm

a bit of a mixed bag here. QB’s with less talented arms don’t throw to the boundries well, but most all NFL QB’s can throw down the middle OK – Jimmy G comes to mind.
Gotta throw it somewhere.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 12:33 pm

I would say the “scrambling” part isnt meant for him to necessarily throw on the run. It’s more of a RPO opportunity. If Dobbs can’t throw great from the pocket, odds are he isn’t throwing well on the run either.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
8 December 2023 12:45 pm

that’s what I meant – an opportunity to run.
Was answering the part about scrambling around and throwing to JJ.

Mjolnir
Reply to  DE Viking
8 December 2023 12:53 pm

When I think ‘scramble drill’ I think from the perspective of a WR (odd, as I never was one) where the receiver is trying to find open space for his QB to find him and deliver the ball before crossing the LoS.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 11:23 am

One thing that doesn’t quite make sense to me. if you can’t throw it all that accurately (NFL standards) just standing there, would think it’s even harder when you’re on the run.

Mjolnir
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 11:30 am

I don’t think it’s even that Dobbs is more accurate while throwing on the run, it’s the situation. Getting a defender in between him and a receiver with space so there’s room for error. No tight window to throw in, not in the confines of bodies flying around Dobbs where he can get all of a motion into the throw. He doesn’t have to be pinpoint in those situations.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 11:20 am

205 might be just good enough to win. Not like the Raiders offense is anything to write home about.

Mjolnir
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 11:26 am

Neither was Chicago’s. I think the Raiders are more formidable offensively than Chicago – Josh Jacobs is pretty good and Adams and Meyers are on par with DJ Moore and Mooney as far as talent is concerned. I like the style of play that Aidan O’Connell brings as opposed to Fields.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 11:41 am

well, I’m also hoping we don’t throw four interceptions this week. Zero, even one, will go along way to winning..

Mjolnir
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 12:38 pm

Amen, brother….

KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:23 am

Great cover of The Edmund Fitzgerald if you are so inclined to listen. A -Capella at the end is haunting.

Mjolnir
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:24 am

I’ll give this a listen later. Great song.

NoDakRube
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:33 am

Cool cover…worth a listen.

Mjolnir
8 December 2023 10:23 am

Happy Friday Norse Nerdz…

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JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:09 am

The Wilfs are wearing cleats too?

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 10:11 am

That seems like a bad idea for them to wear cleats….

VikingPhilip
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 10:12 am

I would think it would be bad for that nice floor in the owners suite.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 10:20 am

Well, we do need more bench strength.

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:25 am

Disagree. This situation is way more complicated than just “Hamas bad Support Israel” I think Greg is just parroting what he’s seeing on TV and what the US Government wants you to think on the issue. So this is kinda dumb imo but, yeah.

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:35 am

WHAT??? A first name of Zigmunt and you say he is Jewish??? STFU!

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:43 am

Ah, that makes more sense. That being said, he’s a US citizen and unless he’s been living in Gaza or Israel in the past 20 years, im sure he’s been versed on this with the news and not much else.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 11:15 am

Since you’re so versed in the situation by your own definition you’re either not a US Citizen or have lived in the Gaza or Israel the past 20 years… interesting.

KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:04 am

Also, I had a hell of a comeback in one of my leagues last weekend. I drove 13 hrs to Breckenridge so I didnt get to see the Dallas – Seattle game on Thursday, got there, and saw I went against DK and he got 45 points. I was supposed to get blown out by 30+ points. I needed the rest of his team to suck and for one or two players of mine to go off. M Evans, and D smith for 60 pts combined did that trick and I got locked into the play offs. Fun stuff. On ward and up.

Wrenage
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:10 am

Nice!

I am playing the number one guy this week. Projected to lose.

But I do have an ace up my sleeve. I have Taysom Hill in at TE. He is currently on the injury report, but if the Saints QB is dinged up as well, he could have a bigger work load and might get me x-factor points.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Wrenage
8 December 2023 10:12 am

Yes, the Taysom Hill at TE thing is almost unfair…

Wrenage
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 10:17 am

I picked Hill up off waivers around mid-season. I also have Kittle, but it is surprising how often Kittle puts up small numbers for me.

Hill has probably given me two wins.

I might still switch to Kittle, but I think I like Hill against the Panthers more right now.

KFEY93
Reply to  Wrenage
8 December 2023 10:27 am

He hasnt been fantasy relevant but I am curious, in that league, if for some reason he throws TDs, how does those points work? I know in our ESPN league it got all fucky that one year when he started and went off.

Mjolnir
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:30 am

He’s dual slotted in Sleeper – in our league a TD is a TD regardless of who scores it, so passing TD’s count. And our league counts them as 6 points.

KFEY93
Reply to  Mjolnir
8 December 2023 10:41 am

Thats what I figured, yeah, he could possibly have a 20 + pt week if hes involved more. I think the big stink came with he couldnt be used as a TE if he was starting the game at QB

Wrenage
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 11:04 am

I believe if he throws a TD, he gets scored for it. I don’t think the issue has come up yet. All his TDs are rushing/receiving…I think.

KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:00 am

YOUR DOWN VOTES MEAN NOTHING TO ME! I’VE SEEN WHAT YOU UP VOTE!

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:10 am

I’ll add one for his street cred.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 10:11 am

Gotta have the street cred.

KFEY93
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 10:27 am

Thank you sir

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:29 am

Even more than mine!

NoDakRube
8 December 2023 9:34 am

I know no one cares but…..
I started Elliot in my fantasy league last night because I am a genius.

KFEY93
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 9:48 am

I know several others that took that hail marry as well and it paid off

KFEY93
8 December 2023 9:19 am

Back from Vacay/Wedding in CO. I know you missed my smiling face and endless optimism and my joy filled conversations with NLNVF and his d- Pal , Jrob!

VikingPhilip
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 9:22 am

You were gone?

NoDakRube
Reply to  VikingPhilip
8 December 2023 9:24 am

KFEY93
Reply to  VikingPhilip
8 December 2023 9:48 am

OHHHHHHH SHIT! Phillip from the top rope

NoDakRube
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 9:22 am

Welcome Back!

KFEY93
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 9:48 am

Thanks bb <3

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 9:25 am

Got married – congratulations.
Was wondering about you. Last heard from you, you were correcting Freezy just before Bears game that Dobbs really didn’t turn the ball over much. Figured maybe you went to QB school or something.
But do look forward to our enlightening conversations.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 9:33 am

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KFEY93
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 9:47 am

Nah my oldest sister did, Im still on the market!!

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:00 am

Yeahhh, that Bears game broke my hot take lol. That was just hard to watch.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:04 am

Don’t feel to bad. Before that game I said we don’t need JJ to beat that crap pile of a team (Bears). Thus I am no longer making predictions for games.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 10:09 am

I thought the same…

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 10:12 am

I think the Raiders are crap too, but I’m. not saying a thing or making any prediction.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:25 am

Probably slightly better than Bears – but that’s a really low bar. Still think the Raider organization is a shitshow.
Now, maybe Crosby won’t be able to play.

Mjolnir
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 10:26 am

Heart and soul of that defense – if he doesn’t play that’s a good thing.

Mjolnir
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:29 am

All of this… Defense and special teams have to be successful for us to make a run. Blocked kicks, pick 6’s, PR/KR for TD’s…. Not confident that we can make the playoffs solely on the arm/legs of Dobbs.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:55 am

That last paragraph is scary – too close to reality!

Mjolnir
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:57 am

BITE. YOUR. TONGUE.

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 3:58 pm

My comparison was his turn over numbers in his first games vs Kirks first few games. Kirk had more. That was my argument. Then Dobbs went out and did what he did on Monday…sigh

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 9:45 am

Your wedding? Or were you a wedding crasher?

KFEY93
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 9:47 am

My sisters! Im still on the market!

Wrenage
Reply to  KFEY93
8 December 2023 10:11 am

I hope you and your husband have many happy years.

NoDakRube
8 December 2023 9:12 am

Good for Ponder, and he might actually be good at this. I know we all hate on Ponder on this site, but it really wasn’t his fault…he was projected to be a 3rd or 4th rounder and slick Rick took him at 12 overall….

Ex-NFL star Christian Ponder quarterbacking the change of the ‘dumb jock’ narrative in business (foxbusiness.com)

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 9:18 am

This ^

Wrenage
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 9:20 am

Yep, I liked Ponder as a dude. I always felt like he left what he had on the field. He just didn’t have enough physically. I genuinely started cringing when I’d see him take off running because I could see he was going to get blown up.

Except for that one time when he shouldered that one opponent to the ground.

Ponder wasn’t one to slid, and he ultimately paid for it with some hits and injuries.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 9:46 am

Good for his wife, too.

DE Viking
8 December 2023 8:44 am

The Vikings are in Las Vegas.
What could go wrong?

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  DE Viking
8 December 2023 8:58 am

Will the Vikes make another backup QB look like a Hall of Famer? Seems to be their norm…

NoDakRube
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 8:59 am

No, I think the Raiders are going to struggle to move the ball.

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 9:13 am

Yeah they will make Dobbs look like a Hall of Famer. I appreciate your optimism for once, a pleasant surprise!

NoDakRube
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 9:15 am

Well Played…..

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 9:41 am

HA! Well played.

DE Viking
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 9:44 am

That’s my expectation as well.

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 9:11 am

Thats a little salty.

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 9:43 am

Well my question really wasn’t football related.

Happy Endings

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  DE Viking
8 December 2023 11:10 am

I heard Lake Las Vegas has some fun boat cruises.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  bowbunch
8 December 2023 11:45 am

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Wrenage
8 December 2023 8:30 am

Wrenage
8 December 2023 8:30 am

I reviewed a fungus movie at The Last Movie Outpost. It was okay, all things considered.

Review: GAIA (2021)

Wrenage
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 9:21 am

Yeah, I generally will spoil movies if they aren’t spectacular. Saves people time!

FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 8:25 am

The Dakota Teams are dominating FCS, again. Go Jacks!!

FCS quarterfinals preview: Sizing up the final eight contenders (msn.com)

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 8:31 am

So awesome. It’d be incredible to have SDSU vs USD for the ship! Go Jacks!

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 8:39 am

NoDakRube
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 9:00 am

We’re coming!!!

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 9:14 am

TO LOSE!

NoDakRube
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 9:21 am

SDSU is easily the best team….they remind me a lot of the stud NDSU teams.

According to RPI, SDSU would be the 6th Best team in the Big 10 this year…

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 9:55 am

They are very complete. And up and coming talent ta boot.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 9:56 am

Hey Edge, did you play for SDSU?

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:15 am

No. They would be the 6th best team in the big 10 and kick the gophers sorry ass by 20.

Remember when NDSU beat the 4th ranked Iowa Hawkeyes? or when NDSU beat the Gophers 2 out of 3 years so the Gophers stopped scheduling them??

SDSU is legit and could play with many teams in the power 5 conferences.

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 10:37 am

right Iowa was ranked 13th when NDSU beat them, they had been ranked 4th earlier in the season….

NoDakRube
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 8:32 am

Yessir!! GO BISON!

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 8:41 am

Buck the Fison!

NoDakRube
Reply to  Edgecrusher71
8 December 2023 8:51 am

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 11:14 am

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NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
8 December 2023 1:23 pm

The Grizzies have a chance.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 1:34 pm

Hopefully since the Cats pissed what should have been a fairly easy game at home away.

KFEY93
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 8:51 am

Ew MSN.com

Wrenage
8 December 2023 8:24 am

Sunday’s Game:

Pros:
It is a 3 p.m. game
Dobbs to JJ might be fun
Best chance at a win remaining on the schedule

Cons:
Vikings

Edgecrusher71
Reply to  Wrenage
8 December 2023 8:31 am

True, we haven’t seen Dobbs to JJ yet.

VikingPhilip
8 December 2023 8:23 am

How’s everyone this morning?

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Surly Viking
Admin
8 December 2023 8:21 am

Admins are SLACKERS

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 8:33 am

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 8:35 am

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 8:40 am

We are all failures.

That’s okay. This is a Vikings site, after all.

Expecting to be disappointed is the way to survive

Wrenage
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 8:40 am

One thing I like about summer/fall country living is the abundance of cornfields. It makes bathroom emergencies a non-factor when in the car. The whole world is a toilet!

VikingPhilip
Reply to  Wrenage
8 December 2023 9:21 am

The whole world is a toilet!

I think that was the mindset of everyone in downtown Seattle the last time we were there.



FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 8:14 am

Dobbs to JJ! Time to shine!

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 8:16 am

Is Dobbs coming out throwing or running?

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 8:19 am

Roll outs and throws with a run option.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  benjammin
8 December 2023 8:19 am

Good point

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 8:20 am

I think the Vikes and Dobby will be a run heavy team…even with JJ I doubt we throw for 250. I believe our 1st play will be up the middle run for 2 yards.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
8 December 2023 8:26 am

Probably. Hear a lot of talk for rollouts. But taking a QB with a bit of accuracy problems and asking him to throw on the run doesn’t seem quite right.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
8 December 2023 8:20 am

Yes

FloridaSKOL
8 December 2023 8:13 am

Good morning, again. SKOL!

FTP!

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