Minnesota Vikings Discussion-SkolAsylum: 12 February 2025

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Vikings Discussion & Random Thoughts

We made it to Minneapolis, and made it to the hotel without getting carjacked! After getting checked in, the fam & I went to Oceanaire for dinner, and it was absolutely amazing. If you’re in town & want a good place to eat, I can’t recommend it highly enough. It isn’t a cheap place to eat, so get ready to spend a bit, but it’s worth it, IMO. On the way back to the room, we stopped by Candyland for some snacks & popcorn, and I also highly recommend stopping there if you’re in town.

We’re heading over to the Timberwolves-Bucks game tonight, which will be the first NBA game any of us has attended, so it should be fun. We picked this game because my son’s favorite player plays for the Bucks, but unfortunately, that player is ‘injured’ so we won’t be able to see him play. Oh well, we’ll have fun anyway.

On Thursday, we’re visiting U.S. Bank Stadium for a tour of the joint before we head back home. I’ve been to many games at this stadium, but have never gotten a tour. I hope they allow us to take pictures. If so, I’ll do a post on here to share it with y’all.

Vikings News

From KX News, Adam Shefter has added to the “Rogers to Vikings” speculation.

On their ‘Lunchbreak’ program, Vikings.com looks at the NFL draft and the way too early power rankings.

NFL News

NFL.com ranks all 74 NFL starting running backs from 2024.

CBS Sports looks at why it won’t be easy for the Browns to trade Myles Garrett.

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SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 10:10 pm

That is true of all televised sports.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 6:08 pm

Nice picture.
City was dying before the riots and covid put the nail in the coffin.
It just got expedited.

Enjoy the game tonight!

JRobert
JRobert
12 February 2025 4:02 pm

Woke up today feeling rather conservative and did a couple of political things. Felt good, even wore my MAGA hat around a bit. That felt good. But then I came here and read some comments. I like disagreements and arguments, to a point and they shouldn’t get personal.
Now I sleep well at night because we have guys like NLV, aka MR PENTAGON today, who give us 50 years of their lives, serve all over the world in very dangerous places so I and all of us can do that. And I appreciate all the veterans who served.
And if you can’t tell by now, I don’t appreciate some limp dick draft dodging asshole make a comment like “Mr Pentagon” for the sake of belittleing slomeone else to win an argument. And spare me the it was made in humor and all that bullshit.
If I get throw off this site for saying this, so be it. NLV thank you for your service.

MT Viking
Reply to  JRobert
12 February 2025 4:40 pm

I think you are taking things a little too personally. I highly doubt that NLNVF gives a rat’s ass about what anyone has to say about him or his service on this football site. This is just a place where we all come to discuss football. I won’t act deferentially to a veteran or LEO or teacher or toilet scrubber on the topics of football. I sure AF don’t expect anyone to lick my balls because I have a couple of initials after my name. Now, if Troy Aikman came on here and started wowing us with football knowledge I might defer to his knowledge of things.

Calling people names on a discussion board can either be taken as good humored banter or as originating from a prick. If it is the latter that says more about the prick than the person getting called out. It’s just not worth it to get personally vested in the banter.

I also doubt any of us are of an age to be draft dodgers. Myself, I didn’t enter the country until I was 22 and by the time I became eligible for selective service I was aged out.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  MT Viking
12 February 2025 4:52 pm

Not personal – I wasn’t attacked. And I suppose I use the term draft dodger inartfully as I simply mean those who didn’t serve. There was a draft in my day. Regardless, and no problem with me of those that didn’t – none of my kids did.
But when someone who didn’t serve choses to dispearage someone who did with reference to his service, in a FOOTBALL argument, I have a problem with that. It’s a cheap shot and totally uncalled for.
Perhaps I shouldn’t get “vested” as you say, but I spent my life with and working with military people. Sticking up for and supporting them is just part of my DNA and unlikely to change.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
12 February 2025 5:06 pm

JR, that was kind, and caring post, and I appreciate it. You are very good man. You and I are men of a certain age, and we clearly do not agree on everything, but we conduct ourselves with decorum, even when we disagree.

Yes, on an internet blog, folks get nasty, insulting, denigrating, etc We both consider this beyond the pale, and unnecessary. I find it boorish, but it’s blog.

Remember, people fire for effect when they have nothing else to offer.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
12 February 2025 5:24 pm

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 7:52 pm

Why? When I see someone abusing a checkout clerk should I just lighten up and look the other way? So if I see someone here taking a cheap shop at someone else here, just look the other way and ignore it.
But I guess since the guy here that was being the ass was on the same side of the argument as you, it’s OK to look the other way. How convenient for you.
And it’s interesting you would show the picture of a military guy given the very point I was making about military service.
Perhaps someday you and I should exchange bona fides and then decide who should provide council to whom.
You want to back people acting like jerks, your choice. But don’t suggest I should except such. No way in hell I’m going to except woke ass behavior.

Surly Viking
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Reply to  JRobert
12 February 2025 9:22 pm

damn. I guess you are just a grumpy old man.
The military pic is just a great quote from a fun movie. I would tell you to relax, but you are obviously in the mood to be angry.

NLNVF has been very condescending to those who question the ability of Saint Kirk.

So, I have absolutely no issues with someone calling him out on occasion.

Enjoy your rage. Yell at some clouds, maybe they will change for you.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Surly Viking
13 February 2025 6:30 am

English is hard. I didn’t object with someone disagreeing with NLV over your Saint Kirk, but rather that person choosing to attack him personally through his military record. Because that person was on the same side of the argument as you, I guess you had no problem with the methods, I do.
So to you that makes me a ‘grumpy old man’ and I can go in the same bucket as your ‘ very condescending NLV’ label. This is indeed quite a day and maybe I’ll just enjoy a few “clouds” today.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 February 2025 8:14 pm

Just ignore the ‘limp dick draft dodging assholes’ by ‘considering the source’.
They/he are/is not worth engaging with.
That is better for your health overall.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
13 February 2025 6:04 am

Probably, But my best friend a retired Marine Colonel died yesterday and wasn’t about to hear someone take a cheap shot at a military guy.

DE Viking
12 February 2025 3:40 pm

Google changes to Gulf of America !
Love it.

IMG_1239
Surly Viking
Admin
12 February 2025 3:19 pm

Just think,
Only 7 more months of me complaining about Kirk until we have real football to talk about again.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 3:27 pm

Yes. Saw a proposal JJ to Jets for their #7. Nonstop clickbait shit.

NoDakRube
Reply to  norseman1
12 February 2025 3:28 pm

Well, if we did that we could pick up a #7, and get Cousins back on the cheap!

Lets do it!!!!!!

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 February 2025 3:32 pm

The ugly rumor that got my blood pressure going, is once Kirko is canned/released, he comes back here on the cheap to help guide JJ.

I almost threw up

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 February 2025 3:33 pm

Kirk. 3 years, $150 mil, guaranteed, no trade clause.

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 3:41 pm

Just wait until Kwesi signs him to a one year deal for the league minimum.

JRo_42
JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:05 pm

So I am curious: Why does everybody love Teddy and think he was such a good QB? In his best year, it appears he had 18 TDs and 7 picks (Broncos). He was nearly even with TD’s and INT’s a few years. His passes were mostly all lobs with no zip, IMO. I don’t remember being all that impressed, but I think everyone HOPED he would be good, and then the injury left a “what if”. But he was not good.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:09 pm

Always thought he was maybe a QB2. JMO.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  norseman1
12 February 2025 3:11 pm

Yes, backup at best. Not atrocious, but just not good. Which is why I think it’s so funny that people give Kirk such a hard time and call him bad. He was twice the QB Teddy ever was, IMO.

KFEY93
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:16 pm

Teddy didnt over extend his welcome or hold the team hostage financially for half a decade. Probably has something to do with it.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  KFEY93
12 February 2025 3:20 pm

Front office didn’t have to cave to his demands/requests for pay. Hate Rick for that.

KFEY93
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 4:47 pm

True. Got me there.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:17 pm

Teddy never ruined the teams ability to build a roster with stupid salary and contract structure demands.
Kirko is hated by me and millions of ALT/Vikings/Redskins fans for doing just that.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 3:21 pm

Blame Rick for being dumb, then.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:29 pm

I do. I thought Rick was the stupidest front office hire ever.
Glad the team moved on.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 4:31 pm

Yeah, I hate him way more than a lot of players that didn’t pan out, mostly because he should have known better in many cases.

KFEY93
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:13 pm

Agreed. I dont understand the undying love for Teddy either. World class, actual genuine human being that every loved behind closed doors and at the podium. But his passing left a lot to be desired. He was looking great in preseason in 2016 but his history after that is all a lot of what could have been. I was fine moving on from him when we did.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:15 pm

Teddy was an upgrade over Ponder. It really was that simple for me.
I wanted him to be better than he was, but he was an easy guy to root for.
We never got a chance to hate him because of ridiculous salary demands (Kirk) and his knee exploded before he could give us a reason to dislike him.

2016 looked to be a good year, building the team around a rookie qb contract.

I am ready for that to finally happen again.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 3:22 pm

Kirk was an upgrade over any QB we’ve had since Favre, and even much longer before that if you don’t include Favre’s short tenure.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:31 pm

I can agree with that, but he was still massively overpaid for what he brought to the team. Just because he was the best out of a bunch of misses and injured players, does not make him great.

His pay was top 10. His play is not top 10.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 4:31 pm

I agree he was overpaid in retrospect, but you pay for the market (and an admitted big upgrade), and potential. It was an experiment that failed, like all other signings and drafts, etc.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:18 pm

I thought Teddy was a good person and a QB with potential.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:28 pm

Agreed! I loved Teddy as a person, as a leader, and he was an O.K. QB.
His deep outs lacked zip, he had nowhere near the arm talent as Cousins or Darnold, but he was a huge upgrade over Ponder.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 2:04 pm

That’s weird.

Yore Mom
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 2:19 pm

It’s cool…literally. See JV’s post above.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 2:15 pm

One of the Ford manufacturing plants has grass on the roof. It keeps the building 10-15 degrees cooler in the summer.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 February 2025 2:17 pm

I am sure that keeping the place cool is a primary concern up there in Minn.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 February 2025 2:22 pm

Have you ever been there in July? It gets hot in the Target Center. I think it also helps keep it warm in the winter. Added insulation, I guess. I just remember seeing the Ford plant on Modern Marvels or some show similar to that.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 February 2025 2:27 pm

Yeah, it’s legit, and generally energy-friendly as well.

KFEY93
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 February 2025 2:59 pm

Modern Marvels was such a good show. When the History and Discovery Channels actually had educational programming and didnt turn into trash reality TV like all cable.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  KFEY93
12 February 2025 3:01 pm

I agree. There was some good stuff on there years ago.

KFEY93
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:16 pm

Early 2000s was what I remember most.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 4:33 pm

Haha yeah, and VH1

KFEY93
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 4:48 pm

VH1 was still around when I was surfing channels on my own

JacksonVike
Reply to  KFEY93
13 February 2025 8:22 am

How it is Made is one of my favorites, along with Dirty Jobs.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 February 2025 3:28 pm

Yup, it gets hot and humid a couple of weeks a year.

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 2:26 pm

That is cool!

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 3:30 pm

Do they water it?

Could someone release a few mice and snakes up there just to add some excitement?? asking for a friend.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:56 pm

It’s on Fanduel, will try and see you. Dress in blaze orange, be helpful. Guessing Ant goes for 30-40.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 2:02 pm

slam my dick in a patio door’

There is a visual I didn’t need today.
@thanks@

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 2:27 pm

Hey now, don’t go disparaging Target. Once you live 200 miles from a Target for a few years you will see the error of your ways. I love that store. Had one only a couple of blocks from our home in Rochester, you could get everything you need in there and be checked out in under fifteen minutes.

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 3:27 pm

Agree to disagree

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 3:31 pm

Target in downtown MSP is mostly under lock to prevent to thievery….

Wrenage
12 February 2025 12:57 pm

I am not proud of myself. I am in a bad mood and trolling people on X because I am out to watch things burn today.

Yet, it is kind of fun.

One guy said…

“We never should have let him attend the Super Bowl. If you think it is okay to spend $20 million on that but cut cancer research, you need to do some soul searching…”

I said…

“You are right. We never should have let Paul Rudd attend the Super Bowl. Totally not worth it, in retrospect…”

It cheered me up a little! I’m going to get a cheeseburger. That should help.

MT Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
12 February 2025 1:19 pm

My wife got into a FB slap fight with a med school classmate of mine, he was virtue signaling that as a EM physician in MN he encounters many traumatized trans men and women, and that he stands by trans women being allowed to compete in women’s sports. My wife said that trans women are ruining women’s sports, and all that women fought for years to achieve in sports. His reply was that cis women are on a spectrum, some are stronger and more athletic than others, and that trans women are also on a spectrum. Apparently as an EM physician he worries not a whit that “real” girls can get injured or suffer emotional trauma after a beatdown in a competition with a “fake” girl … it is all about the trauma of a trans women not being allowed to play sports with her peers. My wife suggested the formation of a trans sporting league, probably have enough interest in MN. Then he digressed into the emotional trauma he suffered in dealing with his sexuality, which makes me laugh as he was popular and good looking and I doubt he wanted for attention from either gender in the dating realm.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 February 2025 1:58 pm

Maybe he is Virtue Signaling because he prefers Trans Women??

Yore Mom
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 February 2025 2:20 pm

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Yore Mom
12 February 2025 2:33 pm

Not ‘shaming’, just pointing out possible motives.

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 12:38 pm

Just go for a nice circle drive on 494 and 694 at 5.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 12:42 pm

Downtown Minneapolis is a shadow of its former self…most of the shopping stores have closed…..Liberal Woke management at its finest….turns everything to crap.

MT Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 February 2025 1:25 pm

Maybe Canada should buy Minnesota?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:19 pm

I will go with Answer C: Both.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:20 pm

People and businesses have left in droves. Add in the liberals who wanted less law enforcement. These same fucking idiots complain if they call 911 and no one shows. MPLS is fly over country to me.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:37 pm

Getting into suburbs too. Closings, staffing issues, shoplifting.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 2:05 pm

When heading back to Dakota? Friday?

Yore Mom
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:38 pm

No customers and insanely high taxes (or rent) are bad for business, too. College professors are going to have to rewrite all the economics textbooks.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 12:03 pm

Looks like you caught it before anyone could call you out for it.
Good Job!

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:04 pm

I’m pretty sure it is Tuesday, given the dominant topic of conversation.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
12 February 2025 11:27 am

Happy Birthday Abe.

pirateflip
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 February 2025 3:25 pm

HUNViking
12 February 2025 10:51 am

Happy Hump Day! 🐫

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  HUNViking
12 February 2025 11:02 am

Soda Slut Auto Response Activated.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  HUNViking
12 February 2025 11:44 am

i so much enjoy soda slut

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 10:12 am

So watching the House Oversight Committee subcommittee war on waste hearing, the Dem’s are just attacking Trump and DOGE endlessly on their “wrecking ball” methodology and highlighting how all these program cuts will ruin peoples lives. They have charts, and powerpoint slides and they are screaming about how people are losing jobs, “Government services protections and safety nets” etc. These are the Oversight Committee members responsible for getting rid of fraud, waste, and abuse.

All I can say is, these people do more to enable fraud, waste, and abuse then get rid of it. I hope more Americans are watching this and garnering this same perspective.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 10:33 am

All they have is histrionics to try and save their gravy train.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 February 2025 10:55 am

This is true. But America stood up on November 5th, and told them to STFU. Unfortunately, their mouths are so big, they get in the way of their ears.

Yore Mom
12 February 2025 10:07 am

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 10:04 am

So as we witnessed a couple times in Super Bowls with Mahomes, no matter how good a QB is, without a great O-line, they are ordinary, and even subpar. The fact is the Vikings interior O-line has been a weak point for many years. Many attempts in the draft and free agency have been made to rectify this glaring issue, including drafting Garrett Bradbury in the first round with the 18th overall pick in the 2019 draft. Still the Vikings QB get pounded every game it seems at the crucial moments, right up the middle.

This year, with McCarthy looking to start, KAM needs to fix this.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 10:17 am

That’s a cop out GF. The Chiefs have a generational QB. He was completely ineffective without O-line protection. Decisive? If a throw is there, and the QB has protection, every NFL QB will be decisive. Even when protection isn’t good, a QB can still be decisive when the throw is there. What we see is before a QB can get to a read or a throw, and be “decisive” he is under siege. That is the fact of the matter.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 10:44 am

What I don’t understand is, why KOC insists on long developing plays given the lack of a solid O-line?
Putting duck-tape on a weak line might win you some regular season games but it will fail you against playoff quality defenses.
Get a better IOL and KOC can run whatever plays he wants. Seems like simple logic to me, wonder what I am missing?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 February 2025 11:05 am

Nothing is easy SoCal. As I mentioned, the list of players the Vikings have brought in via the draft and free agency to fix the IOL over the years, is quite lengthy. The GM is responsible for building the team. There are a lot of in’s and out’s in that regard, with the draft, free agency, and trades. Andy Reid went out after losing to the Bucs in the Super Bowl, and rebuilt his line. He will likely make some moves in this off season too, although the Chiefs had some significant O-line injuries this year.

It can be done, if it’s a priority, and the right guy is doing it.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 11:09 am

I get that they have tried and mostly failed.
My question is about KOC once he knows that his IOL is the weakness continues to use his long developing scheme. Is he ‘hoping’ that it will hold up long enough for the QB to get the pass off enough to be successful?
Hope is seldom a good strategy.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 February 2025 11:32 am

I have plenty of criticism regarding KOC’s play design, scheme, and play calling. From a pure QBing perspective it is one of the hardest in the NFL to execute. In their second year in the system, Cousins and the receivers were finally gelling, and Cousins was leading the league in TD’s and second I believe in yards, when he went down with his Achilles. He was on track to have a great year, and probably his best year ever.

Why KOC runs the plays he runs, knowing his QB is at risk, I don’t know. Arians was the same way and when Brady went to the Bucs, he was getting sacked and pressured a lot. He was holding the ball, and it wasn’t working. He went to Arians and told him the offense needed to be changed, and to his credit, Arians did so.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 11:35 am

Yeah, when ‘The Goat’ suggests a change it is logical to listen to him.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 2:29 pm

Yeah, I mentioned a few weeks ago that Cousins was on MVP pace and people claimed I was wrong or lying. He was doing great before his injury, stat-wise, top-5 and even leading in several categories I think.

KFEY93
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:01 pm

And he would have finished like 10th in MVP voting. So no, he wasnt going to be an MVP. And to assume he would have kept that pace (never has in 10 + years in the league) was laughable at best. Fighting against history is a losing battle. So yes, you were wrong stating that. Take the L.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  KFEY93
12 February 2025 3:10 pm

Haha, feisty and wrong today, huh KFEY?

MVP pace doesn’t mean for sure he would win. You can’t assume he wasn’t going to keep that pace, just like I can’t assume he was. Regardless, he was legitimately leading some stats and was playing better than other “MVP candidates” at the time, and that is a fact, like NLNVF said.

Sam Darnold caught lightning in a bottle for one year, like Case Keenum seemed to do as well. Perhaps that was Kirk’s year to surprise everyone, but we’ll never know. Regardless, he was playing like a top-5 QB that season.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 12:26 pm

I agree GF. Gotta give McCarthy a chance.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 12:28 pm

I agree with this take. In that game, Sam was slow on draw as it were.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 February 2025 2:23 pm

Yep, I think people give him more credit than maybe he deserves sometimes.

bowbunch
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 10:51 am

Didn’t help that the Chiefs receivers consistently dropped easy passes or failed to get open at all.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
12 February 2025 10:59 am

Hmmmm…. yes, receivers drop passes. Yes receivers fail to get open too. All QB’s face these circumstances. All QB’s have to deal with pressure and faulty O-lines as well. It takes a team to win, and no QB can overcome it. You saw it in two Super Bowls with Mahomes. QB’s can’t succeed without their teammates.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  bowbunch
12 February 2025 2:30 pm

QB WINZ. Mahomes clearly sucks under pressure as he was blown out, had 2 picks, and got sacked like 6+ times.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 6:15 pm

Mahomes  has 3 Super Bowl wins, and has been there 5 times.
He has played in the AFC championship game 7 straight times since becoming a starter.

As a QB, he does lift the team and elevate the play of those around him.

Even more impressive, is that there are games where he is THE main reason the team wins.

There are a handful of QBs that can do that that are playing today.

Kirko is not one of them, and never has been. I am glad his career is pretty much over once he gets a Russel Wilson type chance next season.

He should be good at announcing. Nobody should be trying to tackle him while he is just talking.

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 11:06 am

Shhhh, Kirk does not wrong GF! He is perfect and with out fault or question! AND IS A PROVEN PRODUCT!

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 11:23 am

I just have to disagree here GF. Cousins is one of the fastest processors in the league. If the throw is there, he makes it on time. Are there exceptions to that? Sure there are. Sometimes you just aren’t sure if the throw is actually “there”.

KOC doesn’t run a West Coast scheme with timing routes that allow a QB to be decisive. He makes the QB read the defense AND the receivers, which ends up looking like the QB is holding the ball.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 12:12 pm

Actually it’s factual GF. He was tested, and scored amongst the highest ever.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 12:28 pm

Was anyone blitzing when he was tested?
I test well with no pressure

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 12:31 pm

Surly, there isn’t a QB in the league who can’t beat the blitz. We have seen Cousins stand in there and take massive hits, while delivering strikes. The problem arises for all QB’s when they’re pressured and there is nowhere to go with the ball.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:32 pm

I do not expect this kind of response from you GF. You are mature, sensible, and rational. Cousins was indeed tested on speed of cognitive decision making with the S2 Cognition test, and scored amongst the highest ever. Why you laugh at factualm rational data, is perplexing.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:41 pm

That’s a false narrative though. Cousins isn’t indecisive. He makes reads and progressions quickly and if it’s there, he delivers the ball.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 1:39 pm

OH? Game results matter? You mean when Cousins plays out of his head, and the team loses… game results matter? Kickers missing chip shot field goals don’t matter though. RB’s fumbling the ball at the goal line don’t matter, defenses giving up TD’s on 4th down with 3 seconds left in the game, don’t matter, but as for Cousins, game results matter? As you clearly just witnessed QB’s don’t win and lose football games. Teams do.

KFEY93
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 2:01 pm

This is Trump levels of “Probably the best ever” syndrome. Im genuinely getting a kick out of this ego. Keep going.

KFEY93
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 12:06 pm

Uhoh, you gonna put him on the porch too Mr. Pentagon?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  KFEY93
12 February 2025 12:12 pm

No, he is not a child, and GF is very sensible. You on the other hand, need to stay on the porch son.

KFEY93
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 2:20 pm

Really because he’s making the same arguments I have been since this website existed. He’s just been gone so he hasn’t grown as weary of your “Im the smartest person in the US” schtick. It will happen in due time.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 3:28 pm

He also didn’t suck.

he did when it mattered most.



Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 4:37 pm

Remember, I fully bought in (and even got a damned #8 Jersey).
I was at the Bears game that ended the 2018 season. While there were multiple issues in that game, Kirk’s play was issue number 1.
At that moment I realized Kirk is Fools Gold.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 12:16 pm

Cousins would throw if it was obvious to a high school QB that it was there, but the great ones will make the throw if it might be there in a step. Kirk was too risk averse.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  bowbunch
12 February 2025 12:24 pm

Umm not true Bow, sorry. Don’t you remember the amazing throw (one of hundreds in his career) where he was getting clobbered in the head by Fletcher Cox in his own endzone, and tossed an amazing pass to Thielen, who was well covered, that went for 63 yards? Of course you don’t.

The reality is, Cousins routinely made “wow” throws, that you choose to ignore.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 February 2025 2:26 pm

Yeah, people like to criticize him for some bad plays, but conveniently forget about all the great throws he made, particularly with people about to hit him, or just throwing into some tight windows. They only see what they want to see.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:47 pm

This the case.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 2:22 pm

I think people think Teddy was a way better QB than he really was. Not sure why.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
12 February 2025 3:11 pm

Not sure why

Because he was not Ponder.

Just like Kirko was better than Keenum.
And Darnold this year was better than Kirko.



JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 3:19 pm

Makes sense. All relative to the time, I guess. But I have to say, I was never under the impression he was a great or even very good QB. In fact, I don’t recall any games where I was like “thank goodness we had Teddy back there to make that throw”.

JacksonVike
12 February 2025 9:38 am

Enjoy the game GF, it should be a lot of fun. Also, Lil fishin’ needs to switch to Anthony Edwards, he is much more entertaining.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 11:35 am

except you never bet on the white guy.

I thought that was boxing.

JacksonVike
12 February 2025 9:37 am

Happy Hump day,

NoDakRube
12 February 2025 9:09 am

With apologies to vikesfanincheesleland….if you didn’t get a chance to watch the Musk/Trump DOGE Q&A from the oval office yesterday, it was fascinating. Highly recommend finding an entire recording.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
12 February 2025 8:51 am

I was going to mention yesterday that the “Greek freak” as people call him is not playing tonight but I didn’t want to be the bearer of bad news for yous. You’ll still have fun, that place gets rocking, especially if the wolves are putting on a show. You gotta tell your son to pick a new favorite player. I’d recommend the guy that wears number 5 for the wolves. They call him ant man and he’s been on fire lately.

vikesfanincheeseland
vikesfanincheeseland
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
12 February 2025 8:53 am

…..and he’s a top 5 player in the league imo.

NoDakRube
Reply to  vikesfanincheeseland
12 February 2025 9:06 am

Timberpups are 6.5 point favorites…..definitely take the Bucks and the points.

Book it.

JacksonVike
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 February 2025 9:39 am

With Giannis out, T’wolves by 10.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 February 2025 9:58 am

I don’t see it, but my optimism has been beaten down after 53 years as a Vikings fan.

Mjolnir
12 February 2025 7:03 am

SNOW DAY!!!

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Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Mjolnir
12 February 2025 7:56 am

Gratz!
Plus…

Mjolnir
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 8:23 am

Surly Viking
Admin
12 February 2025 6:01 am

GM!
FTP!
SKOL!

Glad you liked OceanAire. That and Manny’s are my favorite places to eat if I am downtown. Both way too spendy for me to go there more than once per year.

Happy Hump Day!

Yore Mom
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 10:09 am

Too PHAT.

pirateflip
Reply to  Yore Mom
12 February 2025 10:28 am

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  pirateflip
12 February 2025 10:37 am

She looks like she is reaching the peak.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Surly Viking
12 February 2025 10:37 am

FTP Auto Rec.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 February 2025 6:15 pm

What did you have last night? And, the halibut was awesome last time I was there.
Crab cakes for an app are a must for me as well.

About The Author

Gone fishin'

Gone fishin'

I'm a dad, husband, Army vet, believer, and a die-hard, life-long Vikings fan from the great state of North Dakota. I've been a Viking fan dating back to 1980, I've been covering the Vikings for nearly a decade, and I founded Skoloholics in 2022. I work in real estate and property management, I love spending time with family, working in the yard, doing anything in the outdoors, and as you can tell from my username, I love fishing. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!

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