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JJ McCarthy will have knee surgery, how long he’ll be out is TBD
Vikings sign an LB, waive another
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JJ will miss significant time, how will it effect his development?
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Glad the Bears didn’t get Matt Judon from the Patriots. He’s 32, but has been a force for years, and added to their front, would be a real problem for us. Pairing him with Montez Sweat? Would have been a real tough go for our offensive line.
Maybe, JA’s suspension can happen while his ankle recovers.
I actually don’t disagree with Bernie on something.
Wow… that is some stat. Crazy find by this site.
KOC says Darnold won’t play this weekend. That said, I read the Browns defense dominated us today. Bother.
Twinkies bats went quiet while we were distracted and they lost 4-1 to KC.
2 out 3 Aint Bad, per Meatloaf.
Addison is fine…
Just soreness, out for season.
He’s fine.
With Nailor coming on we didn’t need Addison anyway. Nailor is probably way better – addition by subtraction I say.
(Trying hard to find a ray of hope)
Addison carting off the field today?? WTF??
not gonna lie, hitman looking dreamy in that pic above tho
I leave all Hitman talk to Wrenage.
Sophomore star wide out carted off practice field is only the second worst news of the day for Vikings fans. Pretty good summary of my fandom. Good grief.
All I got to cheer for now is that the Vikings get to 7 wins.
I doubt it happens, but that’s my 2024 Viking season.
Even with everyone healthy, I only expected them to win 5 or 6 games, this year. I did not have much hope for this year, but, 2025 looked good, now that may be delayed.
I took the over bet on 6.5 wins.
I thought JJ could get it going the second half of the year.
With Darnold, I just don’t see it.
Maybe Sam will surprise us, but yeah… glad I didn’t make arrangements to fly out to London this year. Excitement for the season is pretty much ded at this point. Let’s be entertained, in whatever way…
made the same bet.
At least my bet was only some cheap beer.
Agreed Florida, agreeeed
Not even the bad JJ news has gotten anyone to suggest this.
https://bloggingdirty.com/posts/devastating-injury-vikings-regret-not-re-signing-kirk-cousins
Correct
https://twitter.com/brevmanbane/status/1823782578991849716
it’s gotta suck being KOC, he’s probably extremely disappointed but he has to encourage everyone etc…
who am i kidding, it would be great to be KOC, getting paid millions to coach a sport. SIGN ME UP
He does some seem to love to talk up the team, regardless of the situation.
Always have to soldier on. Nobody is gonna feel sorry for you. Still think the Vikings have a chance this year, although it’s not as good a chance as we’d like.
Yeah, that’s plenty exciting, but currently, our shiny new franchise QB is broken, kinda… should have hired Harbaugh.
Mostly because it is irrelevant.
Neither side wanted the other at the price each side demanded.
Don’t be dishonest with this. Cousins wanted to stay, and offered a team friendly deal, which KAM rejected. This was never about the money, it was about guaranteed years, and a no trade clause. KAM would have none of that, and Cousins needed to find employment elsewhere.
You are the dishonest one.
No, I am not…
Kind of ‘six of one half dozen of the other’ argument.
If KC offered to sign for small money ala Hitman KAM probably would have resigned him.
Money was an element of the decision, no doubt. Guarantee and NTC were also involved in the calculation.
It was not all one thing or another.
In this particular discussion, DE misrepresents reality by highlighting it was only about money, and what Cousins “demanded”. He didn’t demand anything. He offered his services at a below market deal. KAM said he wanted “flexibility”. Never once did KAM say it was about money. They offered Cousins $38M a year, but only guaranteed him through 2024, and of course, no NTC. Thus, I see this issue exactly as I stated, and nothing more.
Yes, they offered him $38M without the guarantees and NTC.
What would they have offered him with those? $25M?? I have no way of knowing.
Obviously less than KC was willing to take as he knew he could (and in fact did) find all he wanted elsewhere.
Discussions go off the rails when the ‘absolutes’ come up. ‘All about the money’ or ‘All about the guarantees and NTC, security’.
Hypotheticals do no work in this discussion. Cousins and KAM both highlighted it wasn’t about the money, but DE insists it was. Cousins wanted to stay with the Vikings. That desire could only be achieved with guaranteed years and a NTC. That was why Cousins departed the station. Why won’t people just admit that?
We don’t have all of the info so we have to fill in with hypotheticals.
Was money AN element of the discussion, yes, was security (NTC and grantees) AN element, yes. What percentage did each play? No idea.
Did KOC and KC agree about the $$ but not the security, sure. Would they have agreed about the security if there had been less $$ at risk, I believe so.
But you all can return to your regularly scheduled argument.
There is no fog of war here SoCal. This is clear as a bell.
I never said it was ONLY about the money. Just that neither side agreed.
I don’t appreciate you calling me dishonest.
You are dishonest when pushing false narratives. Which you have.
“Neither side wanted the other at the price each side demanded.”
That is a complete misrepresentation of the truth.
Ummmm…that’s actually exactly what happened. Cousins had his price, KAM had his, and they didn’t agree. Not sure what the issue here is other than Kirk married Julie and not you.
The price was never an issue. Ever. Stop propagating a lie. So ridiculous you say this. Clearly the sticking point was NOT money. It was guaranteed years, and the NTC. Stop pushing a false narrative. KAM wanted to keep stringing Cousins along on one year deals, and Cousins wanted to retire a Viking. The two agendas did not mesh. That is why Cousins moved on. He was committed to the Vikings, but the Vikings were not committed to him.
No regrets for making the right decision. Good Riddance.
This story has been out there.
The Biden/Harris Administration put Tulsi Gabbard on the TSA terror watch list.
Weaponizing the government against his opponents.
She said bad things about Hillary as a Democrat so she is obviously ‘a threat to democracy’.
Yep.
Terrorism is now defined as questioning democrats/neo liberals.
Was he drunk?
LOL
Hahaha my laugh of the day
Yeah, that’s why he rode on the cart and didn’t drive it.
He’s learning.
Can’t make the shit up. A death, season ending injuries and we’ve played all of one preseason game.
Boggles the mind, doesn’t it? Must really be a curse.
Just found out the JJ news. The real world has been distracting me.
What a kick in the pants.
Dagnabit.
Darn.
Durn.
Crud.
I feel a bit like Kodiak today haha.
0 and 63
It is Wednesday, not Kirk tuesday.
Feel like I’ve brought everyone down with my venting, so I’m going to stop. Sister and I are going out to eat. There will be extra wine consumed today and tonight. Sports is my escape from the mess our country is in, and can’t lie, this was a gut punch for me.
I’ve been dooming since yesterday’s news.
It isn’t you Kathy.
Yep, not your fault Kathy. We all have been hoping for something better but this was a gut punch for sure. At least I have elk hunting I guess.
Thanks, guys and for all the “cheers” too. I’ll definitely toast you guys with my wine today.
Right back at you 🙂
Thanks, Hun.
Agreed, we all saw it coming since the news initially broke yesterday. This is the Viking way.
I feel the same. the wind in the excitement sails has been completely sucked out.
Feeling the same way. Thanks for checking in, and please have a glass or 3 for me.
Enjoy the wine, Kathy 🍷🙂
One just has to accept the fact that the Vikings are cursed, makes being a fan much easier.
Well, I guess I’m back to viewing the Vikings as a comedy show.
I thought I had a couple of years off from that, but that is what this team is.
I view it as entertainment. I might not be entertained in the way I want to be entertained, but this team is fascinating. The new and inventive ways they always come up with to first get our hopes up and then crush them in ever changing ways is really something.
Computer system in our greater hospital system has been down since 5:30 am. Just got back up (non clinical admin types wanted me to keep seeing patients w/o any type of record….Nope won’t do it). Anyhow, I looked at the comment count for today’s thread and knew what happened.
Let’s hope for Keenum 2.0
Admin types usually don’t know how things actually work.
Was true in the Army and in Prison and just about anywhere else.
The Teacher just chimed in that the same is true at schools.
Admins don’t know or no longer care how things actually work.
Its just too stink’n dangerous. Did a bunch of HS sports physicals instead.
Our building in Prison was not wheel chair accessible so no WC bound inmates were allowed.
One of our inmates were given a wheel chair and the Admin let him come back to his cell.
When the Housing Unit staff said something we were told (by Admin) that ‘it will be ok for a few days’.
I replied, ‘Ok, I will log that I brought to your attention so if something goes wrong they will know who to come looking for’.
He was removed within the hour.
Would be like reading a “tumor follow up” aka patient receiving oncologic therapy scan, without access to the priors.
Will the Vikings ever be allowed to have nice things?
Short answer: nope.
Longer answer: no, not really.
This team is truly cursed.
Shorter answer No.
They have a nice training facility!
It’s probably going to start on fire.
Can’t overstate how sad I am about JJ being gone the whole season.
Ditto
Giving you Teddy’s knee explosion flashbacks Ms Kathy?
I have a Sad as well, but I always ‘hope for the best but expect the worst’ as a Viking fan.
Somewhat, but that time I was so upset I couldn’t really function for a month. I was really excited about JJ though, and at least for now, this has even dampened my enthusiasm for the NFL season in general.
You are right, Teddys situation was worse, worse injury and worse team situation.
At least we won’t be trading a 1st and a 4th for a QB now.
I remember the delightful “will his contract toll” discussions with such fondness.
UGH!
You sure? Kwesi and Kev are getting close to the end of their contracts.
See, sometimes it is hard for me to read sarcasm into the comments. I personally wasn’t expecting JJ to start this season, unless we were so far out of contention for a WC spot that it would make sense to give him on field experience. Otherwise I was just hoping we would see him get reps late in games, etc…so I don’t see that the QB situation has changed much. Now if Darnold develops glass knee-itis game 3 that could change quickly.
Maybe some of you felt differently?
Don’t get me wrong, it is still a terrible outcome as he can’t take reps in practice, can’t take otherwise meaningless reps in games, can’t be the backup. Gonna suck seeing him in sweats and a hoodie on the sideline all season.
I wouldn’t be that surprised if they brought in somebody after going through Hall/Mullens/Dobbs last year. It’s a long season and Darnold doesn’t have a great track record. I don’t think they’ll be paying big for a starter or anything so there was sarcasm on that a little, but if one becomes available, I could see them trying to upgrade the backup position.
If Sam or Mullins gets injured I can see them bring in a Dobby start to be the #3 QB.
Hope they don’t get to the point where Hall is the started, if so we are already screwed at that point
Can always use a #1 pick. Season would be horrible though. Not much entertainment.
Agree, but 2024 was the year he was going to get his feet wet.
Now, it’s 2025 getting his feet wet, and 2026 when his real shot is expected. Of course, nothing bad will happen between now and then.
Total waste of a year IMO.
No reason, at this point, JJ can’t start game 1 next year.
True, but he will have no game reps.
So 2025 is now the learning curve year.
That’s my main point on this.
He can have a year of learning from KOC and the OC.
Given training camp and preseason ’25 he could be better than he is now and as of
Sat he was about good enough to start game #1.
‘Hope for the best but expect the worst’.
What else to we have at this point??
My wish now is that Jordan Love doesn’t have a MVP season.
I’m just waiting for the complications or infection from surgery report.
Pretty rare that a QB dazzles in year one of playing.
I will settle for competent, he can ‘dazzle’ by the time we get to the super bowl after a full season of starting.
#dreaming
I felt JJ was going to pass up Sam at some point this season, or it would be obvious that the team is out of contention and JJ would get some useful experience.
It’s terrible. I’m happy that they did the right thing though, and did a complete repair. Yes, it means he’s out for the season, but long term it’s best for him physically.
I get that, and he’s so young. Still sad though.
Yeah, a little “lipstick on the pig” there, but I try to be as positive as possible.
Same here. Totally deflated.
“deflated” is a good word for it.
Honestly, he was the vast majority of my excitement this season, even if he wasn’t going to play right away. There was hope for a maybe-ready-soon QBOTF. Now there’s no shot for this year.
It’ll probably be better for him long term to get the repair now, but this year is far less exciting for me now.
And now I know my son and I won’t get to watch him play when we go to the game in Dec.
my excitement level for the rest of preseason has gone kaput.
Forget preseason. I have zero excitement for the regular season now.
No kidding.
JJ gone for the year
Good job Skolly
Can’t wait for a year of darnold/mullens/hall, maybe I’ll just skip the season
I’m expecting a new QB signed soon……
I heard a former 49ers QB is looking for a job.
Please no.
Fine, I heard there’s a QB on their roster now that is likely to be cut soon.
The QB intrigue now becomes who will the Vikings sign as the starter for 2025? Will Darnold do well enough to earn a contract? Will, as DE states, we be looking at a Tannehill when Darnold crashes and burns?
I expect JJ to start in 2025.
Even if he is just back to where he was Saturday that will be enough. And he could be better with a year of study and he should be good for training camp next year.
Yes, one would expect a top 10 pick to be starting by year 2. So that is certainly going to be the expectation. Won’t be game 1 now…maybe after the bye?
He could definitely start game 1 next year.
I would expect it. If he isn’t, then there is a problem or Darnold really lit it up and gets an extension.
Agree to disagree. If that is the case, Vikings won’t need to put big money into the QB position (Mullens for another 2 year/$4 million?). That would be a precarious position for KOC and KAM to place themselves in.
He will definitely be more advanced next year, if he applies himself, and I’m absolutely certain he will. Everything will be easier on him in his second year. He’ll have a year of studying the position up close, under his belt. He’s gonna see what works, and what doesn’t work, in the NFL.
When has JJ ever not ‘applied himself’?
At this point the biggest question mark about JJ is ‘does he have glass knees’?
I wouldn’t say this means he has glass knees.
Viking level PTSD means it is a ‘fear’ for us fans.
I fully expect him to never play a down as a Viking.
Just expected now.
A little extreme.
But yes, how many games will he last?
Extreme is how I feel today. @And according to the government, my feeling are important.@
I am expecting the other knee to explode as soon as he returns to practice, or the first preseason game next season.
@you probably don’t want to know the statistics of re-tear of a repaired medial meniscus within 5 years.@
@hey, at least the risk of re-tear of a lateral meniscus is lower, anyone have any idea which was repaired@
I suspect the one with the greatest chance of being re-injured, cause Vikings.
That is the expected outcome. There’s always next year (Vikings fans motto).
Hope he at least learns the mental aspects of the game while he is out.
Then he will be a little ahead once he can get back on the field.
Made of glass, cut him.
As a Vikings fan, that’s what I am going with.
Can’t even play a real game without getting hurt.
hey on the brightside, we’re one year wasted/closer to paying him the big bucks.
We were all thinking it, freezey, we were all thinking it. I’m going 4 years, $300 million guaranteed.
Sounds about right.
@So, that means he’ll be ready to play in the Super Bowl?@
Or possibly at least a meaningless game at the end of the season.
You know, when they are resting the starters because they have the division locked up already.
According to financial disclosures released by the White House, Kamala Harris and her husband repeatedly donated to anti-police and pro-sanctuary city nonprofits.
That was before she had to become Trump-lite for the election.
I could see her in the debate; Reporter: Trump what do you plan to do with the border.
Trump: Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it.
Reporter: VP what is your response
Kamala: Yep, I am going to do that too.
Maybe she will follow John Kerry’s lead:
“I was against building a wall before I was for it”
Yeah, but she’s changed her mind now.
Finally something Cackles can take credit for.
This should be plastered all over anything anyone says good about Biden for the rest of his life, and indeed the rest of our history.
But Pelosi says he belongs on Mt. Rushmore.
That bat shit crazy woman also said on National television “that’s why we have to pass the bill… to see what’s in it”.
And no one questioned it…
Yeah and like the day after she said he should be on Rushmore she was talking about how politically inept he is. Just depends on how much she’s been drinking on what reaction you’re going to get from her.
She/they will say or do anything that they think will let them get reelected/stay in power.
Oh lots and lots of people questioned it.
Of course they passed it anyway because they didn’t care.
Amen to that! I spent so much time in that shit hole. To just watch it all collapse due to total incompetence will drive you crazy…so much blood and treasure wasted. We should NEVER forget what Joe and Cackles did in Afghanistan!
Watching the Falcons vs the Dolphins on the NFL Network. Heinicke is awful. How anyone ever thought he was an NFL caliber QB is beyond me.
Well he is probably a better NFL QB than he is a KungFu Ninja.
Laughing
Ryan Tannehill.
Happy hump day…..
Goose’s 5th Birthday today!
FTP!
FT*!
Sean Payton never uses the guest towels, always the fancy ones……
SKOL!
The ‘fancy towels’ in our home are designated for guests.
Don’t use the ‘good stuff’ for every day.
Those of you in murderapolis do you have knowledge of this? How could he be elected gov after this?
For some reason in Minnesota, this is a resume’ enhancer.
Even Commifornia wasn’t this bad.
And Commifornia was among the worst in the country.
looks like mostly peaceful enforcing to me…..
That is hilarious. Not that I would personally find it hilarious…but it is hilarious.
Wonder if his Snitch Line reported that neighborhood so they had to ‘clean it up’ with squads of cops.
If only they took the BLM riots that seriously.
‘zyn flavor’?
Don’t think I even want to know.
is that the same as Zima?
Can’t spell zima without zim
zyn. not zim.
Non-tobacco nicotine pouches.
This Omar is more trustworthy than the one you people keep voting for.
I mean you fucking people in Minneapolis. I don’t think you’re there, but you people are.
they are the worst
Translation:
“I am for nuking Israel”
But how can they ‘reclaim’ Israel if it is glowing in the dark?
The land isn’t the immediate concern.
Japan still exists.
Good point,
They have been fighting for thousands of years. What is another few years waiting for the radiation to decay to the point the land is habitable again.
They were being left alone when they murdered an entire concert full of Jews.
he has such a punchable face
Who’s governing your state these days?
For that matter, who is running the country with Joe at Rehoboth Beach and Kamala at rallies and meeting with the press daily?
The same cabal that has been running the country for the last 3.5 years.
Here’s what I wonder.
Could some counter spy from another country sneak into the white house, take charge and declare marshall law?
Who would stop him/her?
Or more likely, who is planning on allowing that scenario to unfold?
Like Al Haig tried to ‘take charge’ after the Reagan assassination attempt?
I remember that, it was hilarious!
He was the youngest 4 Star General is US History, suspect we could have done worse.
The media went bonkers over this and misrepresented what his quote was.
But having a current zombie is somehow fine…
This POS destroyed small businesses and small towns throughout Minnesota, for his own personal advancement in the Democratic party. I guess it worked out for him, since he got the VP nomination. It’s too bad he can just return to his post if they lose the election. I know Flannigan will be worse, but I think she can be beaten in 2 years.
J.J. McCarthy using the same surgeon as Shariff Floyd
IIRC it was the nerve block (anesthesiologist) not the surgery itself that caused his problem.
I don’t remember, I also lied.
Yeah. I was thinking it sounded more like sarcasm than fact.
Damnit, just like the time you told me those were virgin Long Island iced teas.
No, I said the lady boys would de-virgin you once you got drunk.
How can Darnold’s odds of winning the Come Back Player Of The Year improve if he is not eligible since you have to be coming off an injury as we have been told here a time or three. (quite the run on sentence there)
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/j-j-mccarthy-injury-shifts-sam-darnold-mvp-comeback-player-year-odds?intcmp=hp1r_foxbet_obtest&dicbo=v4-2YfsbUS-1088916728-1
Correct.
Anybody betting on Darnold hasn’t read the updated AP rules.
What if ‘other circumstances that led him to miss playing time the previous season’ means being the back up QB to an effective starting QB?
Well, that’s the kicker.
So any backup QB who didn’t play in the prior year, and plays the following year qualifies?
I doubt it.
That way the NFL can spin it anyway that they want to.
I guess “seeing ghosts” could fit “facing adversity”
Personally, I think they changed the rule for one player.
Aaron Rodgers will get the award if he plays the entire season.
Book it.
Darnold didn’t play last season, though.
So you would say that being a backup QB qualifies as “facing adversity”?
Honestly, I could see a case being made that going from being a career disappointment, and backup QB to a Super Bowl MVP might be considered “significant” enough to garner the Comeback Player of the Year Award..
I agree that based on the old rules, he would qualify.
But they changed the rule. I doubt being a backup QB is considered facing adversity in their eyes.
Wonder if Vegas would have to refund those bets if the NFL rules Sam is not eligible for the award.
Vegas issue refunds?
I think their motto is:
“Stupid is as stupid does…”
Why? The rules are already public knowledge. If somebody wants to bet me that Brett Favre will win NFL MVP this year, I’ll take that bet. Your stupidity doesn’t necessitate any special treatment.
Well they posted the odds for Sam in CBPoftheY when he was not eligible.
Enough lawyers around who would take that case I suspect.
Nah.
I think technically, “other circumstances” gives Vegas a loop hole.
Since ‘Legal does not equal Logical’ it is all speculation at this point anyway.
You could have made the bet in the spring and they could claim that he could have gotten hurt this spring/summer and made it back for the beginning part of the season and therefor been eligible.
I got a ban from Twitter because I said child molestors should be put to death. Apparently the word death is an automatic 1 week ban.
I’m good with your position.
It’s an example of where we went backwards in society. It used to be a group of local Dads got together and took care of it. Now it’s a court date so they can apologize for inconveniencing the child molester and ask if he feels seen and appreciated.
Liberal judges are a big threat to our society.
Way to go. (Not wrong though as long as you said it should be slow and painful). In the UK they just get community service though if they are “newcomers” because they don’t know any better.
Not just in the UK, all over Europe. The western part, at least.
According to some, that’s a sexual orientation.
Wonder if you used ‘Terminated’ vs ‘Put to Death’?
I think the popular one these days is unaliving
So you have alternatives once you get reinstated and need to advocate for putting down ChoMos.
The Packers fan base would dwindle
You should have said Clintoned.
Do you mean Bill for hanging out on Epstein Island or Hillary for having people drop dead conveniently.
This is why you can’t say pedophiles be unlivinged, because you would be calling for the death of a former president (and lots of current politicians).
Not to mention certain British Royals.
I can see where this could cause confusion. We’ll go with suicided instead.
How about calling for the assassination of a particular former President?
Can we can let Jimmy Carter get to 100 on October 1st before you do that?
Really like Jimmy Carter…Terrible, awful, shitty President, but a decent God Fearing man.
Really fucking cool dude. Should have never been President.
Where’s Kristi Noem when you need her?
In the cornfield, giving blowies.
Is that why Edge hasn’t been around lately? Too busy with his bestie?
Do you happen to have the address for the cornfield?
Yes, please. Asking for me
I reported an account on Facebook for this, just to see what would happen. I got back “there seems to be no ill intent in this post.”
Obviously. They were just saying that democracy must be protected.
That tracks. I was banned from Twitter once for wishing that Sean Payton stub his toe in perpetuity. Said I broke the ‘incitement of violence’ rule. Lame.
I need something to brighten my day after yesterdays news.
Will start with this one which always gives me a smile.
Think how sad the Rams fans were in ’99 when Trent Green went down.
I was wondering if that would come up. Dick Vermeil’s famous comment “We’ll rally around Kurt Warner, and we’ll play good football” will live on forever. Obviously they won the Super Bowl that year.
Obviously an exception, but our likely backup QB going down, while extremely disappointing does not necessarily mean doom. JJ will come back as good as ever and he still has a 20 year career in front of him.
Not sure about the 20 year career part, but agree with the rest.
Fine, 18 years.
Laughing
You think he pulls a Tom Brady and plays until 45? 25 year prediction from NLNVF!
Laughing. Pocket passers last in the NFL. IF McCarthy becomes more pure pocket passer, and less scrambling playmaker, he could last 15 years. Might get beyond that, but not likely.
So 37 is the drop off point?
Years, more than age. The abuse on his body will add up. We all know this. What will his body look like after 15 years in the NFL? Again, pocket passers tend to last longer than guys like Cam Newton for instance.
I think JJ will be more like Aaron or Patrick, use his legs to avoid a sack, not so much to gain yards.
Or how NE fans felt when Bledsoe when down it 2001 and his back up had to take over in the 2nd game of the season.
Yeah. Having to play a scrub late round draft pick QB had to feel great at the time. Our time is coming. It is always darkest just before the dawn.
Yall, we dont know the extent of our lord and savior JJs injury yet, and only the Dr who open his knee up and does the surgery will give us an accurate time table and return to football activites. Wait and see mode, not wild guess and speculate mode. This rebuild season is still going to be fun and have ups and downs and im STILL jacked to go see them beat Tennessee.
Worst case the other young bucks learn, JJ learns from the sideline, Sam revitalizes his career and earns himself a good payday in the offseason and therefore a better comp pick for the Vikings in the future.
This is the way!!
Joe Burrow took the Bengals to the Super Bowl in his first full year. After tearing his ACL. This changes nothing for the long term plan except possibly the playoff run this year, but Sam can do it.
yes, can still be a fun season…No use dooming and glooming it.
I will always watch and cheer for the Vikings.
But I have zero hope this year or 2025.
Vikings QB and knee injuries usually don’t end well.
I mean, JJ plays 2 quarters in a practice game and gets hurt.
Dooming and Glooming and Cheering and Watching are not mutually exclusive as we ‘Hope for the best but expect the worst’.
It will probably be like last year when I was less ’emotionally invested’ to protect myself but still hoped for the best and followed the games.
Same, I will watch the games and I will bitch and complain, then, I will hope for next year….the never ending cycle…
This is the way.
I notice the kickers foot never goes about the kickees knee. I assume there is a brace or something there that doesn’t allow it any further.
That would also help keep the kickee from flinching as the kick is on the way.
Yep, It’s all fake!!
What is it with this team and QB knees? Bridgewater, Bradford … now JJ?
Culpepper
Yup, him too.
Correct.
No Vikings QB has ever been good after a knee injury.
*So far
Just one of the curses soon to be broken. Reichart is going to exorcise the biggest one.
One rumor has emerged…..
Will have to see MTs take on this option.
Partial meniscectomy increases the risk of arthritis 4x in 16 years. See Sam Bradford “knees of glass” aka magic beans.
Can you do a partial in the short term, then do the repair later to minimize the increased risk to arthritis?
Unless I did more extensive reading, I could not answer that question with 100% confidence, but I’m going to say no…the menisci are these kinda fleshy flaps that cushion the femoral and tibial condyles and if you cut out a wedge you can’t just go back in and graft in some artificial or cadaver meniscus (in my nonexpert opinion).
I would leave my meniscus to JJ for this after I die.
Of course between HS wrestling/22 of Army/marathon I can’t claim perfect health for my knees.
That was my uneducated take as well.
One or the other.
Makes me think even more that JJ would do the repair now rather than risk increased arthritis before his career even ends.
‘Later’ being after retirement?
I was thinking later as, the offseason. January 2025
This solves everything !!
The Vikes injured their LB so they can sign another LB? Pretty brutal, but this is the Vikings’ way, I guess.
QOTD. I’ve heard for decades at the NFL level the game is 90% mental and 10% physical. Regardless of amount of time out, JJ can use the time to really bone up on the mental aspects of the game – every meeting, every practice, soak it up.
Without reps, the physical side will be behind, like game speed, but can be quickly picked up with reps when appropriate.
Agreed. Its also the reason why a lot of QBs cant get over the hump in the play offs, mentally fold under pressure, getting hit, making mistakes and they get in their own heads. I dont see that mental weakness in JJ so far, its refreshing. Hoping he comes back ready to go and sling it.
JR, there is so much to learn at the NFL level for QB’s. Both the offensive schemes they will run, and the defensive schemes they will face, are a quantum leap from what they experienced in college. Yes, rookies come in and they compensate initially in their careers with exceptional athleticism, but if they are going to last, and be long term franchise QB’s, it’s what’s between their ears that counts. Understanding it all, and mastering it all, takes a while. McCarthy can sit with the OC and take in the scheming and planning for games, and see how it works. All NFL QB’s have to be drilled endlessly on the four progression and read categories, and understand the nuances and adjustments that are made for every single opponent. It takes a lot of work and studying to get those many hundreds of read adjustments into your head.
so obviously we have no clue what the season holds. IF the vikings really suck, what are the rules for lowkey cheering for another team?
Since the vikings are obviously a ridiculously snakebitten franchise, we can’t just up and cheer for a stud franchise, like the chiefs….but can i lowkey cheer for another snakebitten franchise?
if so, i think i’ll go for the Lions.
Lions and Chargers will be my teams probably.
Chargers will be fun, hopefully.
Iv been cheering for the Bills and or the Bengals since their respective Kicking Kansas Citys ass in the regular season in 2020/21 season. Joey Burrr is the man.
Rooting for the Bills.
Agreed on Cincy and Burrow. I like watching Stroud as well and he seems to be a genuinely good kid. I was a semi Texans fan when they started as well and have family down there so if the Vikings aren’t going to be successful then I’ll pull for the Texans. That’s probably going to only last the first couple weeks and then JJ will be back and lead them from the depths to a wild card spot.
I am also okay with Bills and Bengals.
The Chiefs are the new Patriots. Getting kind of weary of them. But it is still Mahomes’s world, and we’re just living in it.
I hope the Pukers, Lions and the Bears burn in hell.
Chargers would be my pick.
Chargers for me. I like Herbert, and they signed our coach. Go Harbaugh (unless you play vs the Vikings, of course)!
i’m on board with the chargers. that’s my sister/brother in law/their kids favorite team (they live out there), plus they just drafted Joe Alt who is my neighbors brother, so that’s a good choice. i’m for them now
I usually cheer for the Steelers, just because my brother is the only Steelers fan in the family. 3 are Cowboys fans, which I will never cheer for, 2 are bears fans and 1 was a Packers fan.
I can get behind cheering for the Steelers. Had a lot of fun with Steelers fans when we beat them in London 2013, fun bunch.
I like da Bears.
PA said we will find out today which of the two surgeries JJ will have, my guess is he has the repair as opposed to the trim and will miss the entire season
Yep.
JJ is toast for 2024.
yes agreed. they should just do the whole thing up. make it a party, maybe go into the other knee and fix that too.
check his shoulder and elbow, heck give him tommy john for all i care now
$6M Dollar Man Auto Rec.
Wish they would release the MRI report. I guess it would be a bunch of gibberish no one understands, with a lot of adverbs and adjectives “cannot entirely exclude” “possibly extending into” “extremely unlikely” “perhaps may represent” “unusual appearance”.
So radiologists just make stuff up and use form reports?
*actually I only have like 8 canned reports, things like a completely normal chest x-ray, etc. I mostly free dictate so I never run into the oh s### moment when a report says there is no abdominal or pelvic lymphadenopathy and I realize two months later I did not look at the lymph nodes thoroughly.
Absolutely.
Have to leave a little wiggle room for CYA.
For example this shoulder MRI – I dictate the findings in each bullet. I could create auto populating macros that say for example “The subscapularis, supraspinatus, infraspinatus and teres minor tendons are intact, with tendinopathy or partial tear.” However, personally I find that by having to say each noun I actually study each tendon.
Any real development is pushed off into 2025.
He will get classroom work this year, but nothing replaces game reps for learning.
Yep, that is the worst part, he will miss significant training and lesson learning time. We basically lost a cheap year of his contract. Damn it!
He’ll still be learning. It was most likely going to be Darnold’s job for most of the year anyway. Hopefully he’ll miss just a few quarters of preseason football. No big deal.
He’s young, it’s not a super major injury either way, he’s driven. He’ll be alright. The sucky part is the lack of excitement for a young QB this year (if he misses major time).
Mostly true.
But I don’t think JJ plays another down in 2024.
I also don’t think he will even take serious reps in practice.
No point in making it worse IMO.
If it’s a complete repair, that’s like 6 months of time.
IMO it should just be a complete repair.
fix it up, get it done.
Sounds like it’s better to do the trim if the repair isn’t needed:
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/40851050
well i obviously know nothing haha.
i hope everything in minimal and he can be back out practicing sooner than later, but it’s….vikings so…
This is honestly the most terrifying part to me. I fear it’ll be yet another lesson in not getting excited about anything as a Vikings fan.
With JJ out, who is still watching preseason games?
I will watch if I have nothing else going on.
I expect Mullens will get a few reps this week.
Other than that, it’s the Jaren Hall show.
Eh.
I might watch, but my enthusiasm is seriously deflated. Sucks that we can never have nice things.
They likely won’t be on TV here anyway without extra effort so its unlikely and considering elk season starts the same time as football season, I probably won’t see much of the first quarter-half of the season either.
The effect on JJ’s development is somewhat mitigated because he is young and it is very early in his career/season.
The effect on my development is greater. I’m just a little bit more cynical.
Did any Vikings player get hurt traveling to Cleveland?
Can I look, even though it’s for MT?
I suppose, but don’t spoil the surprise.
Good morning, SKOL!
FT knee injuries!
FTP!
Happy Hump Day!