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The fam and I attended the New Salem demolition derby yesterday, and it was a great time. I’ve never seen a radiator explode before, not until yesterday. Two cars collided, and when the one dude’s front end connected with the other dude’s rear end, his radiator exploded. It was so awesome, it looked like a gigantic water balloon filled with green water exploded in mid-air.
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Minnesota Vikings News:
From Heavy.com, the Vikings expect to make progress next week on Danielle Hunter’s contract situation.
The Titans have signed Deandre Hopkins to a two-year deal reportedly worth $26 million, according to NFL.com.
The Jags and TE Engram have agreed to terms on a 3-year deal, the two parties came to agreement only 3 days prior to the franchise tag deadline, story fromi ESPN.
From CBS Sports, Miles Sanders said that Andy Dalton is ‘a future hall-of-famer’. I csn only assume Sanders was heavily intoxicated when he made that comment.
Video of the Day:
Here’s one of my favorite comedians of all-time, this is George Carlin and his entire ‘Back in Town’ show from 1996. I saw him live in Bismarck only five years prior to this show. Enjoiy!
From Kari Lake’s appeal to AZ Supreme Court. Unbelievable the amount of shenanigans in that election.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1679969656012931074.html
Unfortunately it won’t matter.
Judges don’t like to interfere with elections.
Holy cow…some shit going down with rbs.
👏👏
Barkley confused about what side actually cancels people. Dudes not known for reading the room.
So you’re saying the right didn’t cancel Bud Light?
The right didn’t cancel tranny fluid.
The customers moved their dollars to other brands.
And I bet many of those customers are not right wingers.
Yeah…keep telling yourself that.. You wingers get triggered over the stupidest shit you hate, get fleeced by the elites in your party, vote against your own self interests and then ban together like the KKK to burn shit down. Guess you missed the hundreds of videos of the poster child winger fucks shooting cases of bud light. Along with the trailer trash pouring out cans they probably spent half their paychecks on because they’re triggered fools.
After months of fruitless negotiations, the New York Giants’ Saquon Barkley, Dallas Cowboy’s Tony Pollard, and Las Vegas Raiders’ Josh Jacobs won’t be securing contract extensions in 2023.
The NFL’s franchise tag deadline for new deals expired at 4 p.m. ET without a breakthrough in talks for any of the three running backs. Now, each will have to play out the 2023 season on a one-year deal for $10.1 million — or consider not playing at all.
Sources close to Barkley and Jacobs said each would weigh their options if a new deal wasn’t reached, including potentially sitting out portions of training camp or regular-season games.
Pollard has signed his tag and is expected to report to training camp as normal.
Yeah, RB position has become draft, apply 5th year option (if a 1st round pick), franchise tag, then let them walk. The franchise tag for RBs is actually cheaper now than it was in 2015, crazy.
Think how many blue chip athletes at the college level say hell no I don’t want to be a RB.
Yep, and think how insane ADs 100 mil extension would be today
Sitting out a year – big mistake.
LaVeon Bell just apologized to Steelers fans for sitting out.
They should take note.
Kinda interesting to me that with over 13,000 yards (4th) and 97 TD’s (5th) in the NFL over the last three years, folks continue to label Cousins as a middling QB. Only Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, and Allen have out-produced him, and he has one of the worst pass blocking lines in the league in front of him.
yEaH wEll hE cAN’t WiN iN tHe pOsT sEaSoN
House Democrats plan to unveil a resolution on Monday to formally censure Rep. George Santos of New York for blatantly lying to voters about his life story, teeing up a fresh attempt to reprimand the first-term Republican.
Ummm Biden has done this his entire political career including as President. Crickets…
‘Deny, Distract, Destroy Evidence’.
Stupid Libs have the playbook down pat.
Pocahontas is probably leading this charge…
As you know, “blatant lying” is beyond the pale in DC. Only ordinary, plain old fashioned lying is tolerated for a politician.
Slow Day Short Summary:
DE says Cook is signing with the Titans
Surly Viking watched QB, unexpectedly did not change his feelings about Kirk, still in his summer hopium stage
Kirk discussion
JJ is ranked 99 on Madden, foreskinface doesn’t care
Benjammin found his Greta
Lifer thinks communicating with your wife the she prefers and is most effective for her is “straight Christian white brainwash doctrine spread down to keep women submitting to men and the white population propagating”
Golf discussion
NoDak can’t wait for feces and criminals co-existing in the streets
Bow and DE are looking forward to the Twins making the playoffs and continuing the Minnesota way
Random locals tell VPs BIL that Greta is a fraud
Lifer sees who wears the pants at DE’s home
More QB discussion
The secret service can’t figure out who left cocaine in the White House, hmmmm…
Putting this at the top for Lifer and JacksonVike in regards to our NATO discussion below.
You might remember a little thing called the Cold War from 1949 to 1990. East and West Germany were established after the Neuremberg trials (1945-1949). The Bundeswehr was established in 1955 in West Germany. In 1956, conscription for all men between the ages of 18 and 45 was introduced after heavy discussions about re-militarizing Germany. During the Cold War the Bundeswehr had a strength of roughly 495,000 military and 170,000 civilian personnel. The air force owned a large number of tactical combat aircraft and took part in NATO’s integrated air defense (NATINADS). The navy was tasked to defend the “Baltic Approaches” and to contain the Soviet Navy’s Baltic Fleet.
When Germany was reunified in the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany (1990), Germany agreed to reduce the strength of its combined armed forces to no more than 370,000 men. In 1999, the NATO war on Yugoslavia in Kosovo was the first offensive conflict in which the German military actively took part since the Second World War. Since the early 1990s, the Bundeswehr became more engaged in international peacekeeping missions in and around the former Yugoslavia, Cambodia, Somalia, Djibouti, Georgia, and Sudan.
Over the years though like most of the NATO countries, Germany invested less and less in their military and their NATO commitments. It wasn’t until Trump told NATO he was pulling the U.S. out unless they started paying their fair share, that Germany started to invest more heavily in their military and their NATO commitments.
As a matter of interest, what are your thoughts on giving to Ukraine. Last I read we had given over 70 billion and germany and poland combined about 15.
It’s BS. Our weapons cache is taking it a hit. We either leave the shit or give it away. Now Joe goes live saying we are depleted.
In the military this is called “mission creep”. You start by investing a small amount in something and it grows like a cancer. The Vietnam War is a perfect example.
Russia’s invasion began with dozens of missile strikes on cities all over Ukraine before dawn on 24 February 2022. The mistake was made from the start by the administration. Russia was massing its forces for weeks before the invasion and behind the scenes diplomats were warning NATO and especially the U.S. not to intervene. All those soldiers and supplies were just sitting there in the open. Sitting ducks. Unfortunately our President as well as other world “leaders” were cowed by Putin into doing nothing. Once the invasion was underway, our President decided “sanctions” was the best way to stop a military engagement, which is laughable. Then, slowly, inch by inch, we have been drug into this protracted war, and as you say, invested Billions of taxpayer dollars.
Everyone is afraid of Putin. I will tell you Putin was afraid of Trump though. I seriously doubt he would have ever attempted this with Trump in office because Trump told him if he ever tried it, he would level Putin’s troops in a single day. Had Trump been in charge and Putin started staging up troops and supplies, it would have ended badly for him, and basically in a single day. That is the course of action I supported, but the administration felt they could not risk entering into a war with Russia. Putin knew exactly who he was dealing with.
Biden thinks he can drain Russia’s resources by draining ours. Bad plan poorly executed.
Takes years to replenish weaponry. And money. Sniffer, leader of the woke/broke world.
He depleted our oil reserves too, to keep gas prices lower during the mid terms. He personifies political actions that hurt the country while he profits politically (and personally).
thanks. Great strategy – get into an arms race with Russia.
And your comparison to Vietnam may be prophetic.
Commander In Chief / Mission Creep
100%
That’s fair…although there is still a strong neo right wing element in Germany I think it’s safe to pressure them in to contributing more to NATO.
I agree, Neo Naziism is definitely on the rise in Germany, but personally the labeling as a “far right extremist group” has always been a political ploy by the left. Adolph Hitler, the leader of the Nazi’s was not far right. He was a Marxist and a Socialist. Just my take that as a conservative I completely disagree Nazi’s should be labeled as “far right extremists”. They are extremists, but associating them with my core beliefs is insulting and indeed far fetched.
Historically understanding the context that Adolph Hitler used the Marxist / Socialist movement as a way to gain power in Germany and then quickly pivoted to fascism which is a right wing doctrine is accurate fact then and accurate still today. Hence the historical quote below by Martin Niemöller.
That is fact that conservative principles today align in lockstep with fascism cannot be denied with any level of debate. Protect corporations, small or no government oversight, separated economic classes of have and have nots. They’ll be a great economy but sorry you’re the working class and will not ever be in the circle of the elites. Equal rights will not exist and second class citizens will be the norm and enforced by law.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
Lifer Was Comrade Stalin a socialist?
And today’s conservative principals align with fascism?
Hear’s the typical MAGA guy I see around here. He drives a pickup to work, he’s a carpenter. He’ married and has two kids. His wife works too. They go to church on Sundays. He likes to hunt and fish, so yes he has a gun. He pays his bills and doesn’t understand why others don’t. He’s OK with teaching about sex in school, but probably not before they’re 12 years old
He sounds a lot like the generation after generation of Americans that have made this country what it is. He’s middle class, he fights the wars, he pays his taxes. And he likes his freedom..
He’s conservative I’d guess you’d call him. Doesn’t seem like a fascist to me.
Stalin devoted himself to Marx’s socio-political theory, Marxism, which was then on the rise in Georgia, one of various forms of socialism opposed to the empire’s governing Tsarist authorities.
The typical MAGA guy principles were developed and evolved under a system slanted to white conservative rule and advantages. As our nation ethnically changes they have issues with that change, which is inevitable.
The difference is the political leaders use race, gun rights and abortion laws to trigger and give conservatives who dislike people of color, womens equal rights and religious pro life doctrine an excuse to vote against their own rights, which is fascinating but we’ve seen it over and over with the conservative right constituents, who died 3 to 1 in red states from covid a FACT. So the truth is there if you’re willing to see it and accept it. Brainwashed wingers can even be honest with themselves to admit it.
All of that is pure bullshit and leftist propaganda…
Every word is fact and I have historical data to prove it but then you’ll say “Fake News”. There’s no winning here, we’re different and we’ll either figure out how to get along as a nation or we’ll go to war. I hope for the former but am ready for the latter.
None of it fact. It’s all rhetoric.
Please! I just described the average working Joe. Not the east coast government worker.
I’m talking about the average guys and people.
If you don’t think the left spreads the BS just like the right for their political purposes don’t know what to say.
I’ve been there.
It certainly both sides because it’s easy to trigger the bases and keep us divided. LBJ admitted it.
But you seem to act like one is better?
Liberals and conservative have gotten along for decades. But recently bad strains from the far ends of both sides have messed it up.
It;s late, going to bed, talk tomorrow.
If I had to side with one I’d pick the side that supports the freedoms of woman and minorities.
Goodnight rest well!
Fascism refers to a way of organizing society with an emphasis of autocratic government, dictatorial leadership, and the suppression of opposition. The word entered English as a result of Mussolini’s political group, members of which were called ‘fascisti’ in Italy.
Hate to bring this to your attention, but these are leftist traits not Conservatives… at all. The left wants to control everything, take rights and freedoms away in the name of “the greater good” and definitely destroy anyone who opposes them (see Donald Trump).
Just because you say “I know what you are but what am I’ does not make you Pee Wee Herman, NVF.
You described fascism completely incorrectly. You believe the propaganda of the left, which is long on rhetoric and short on truth.
I gave the correct definition of what fascism is, and it aligns with the left’s belief that Government must control and rule the common populace. Socialism doesn’t make people lives better. It makes them slaves to the political elite. You want slavery to the leftist socialists. I do not.
No you are completely backwards on your definition of fascism and most importantly it’s relation to socialism which is the complete opposite.
Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Autocratic: relating to a ruler who has absolute power.
“the constitutional reforms threatened his autocratic power”
How you could have that completely backwards is almost concerning to the level you’ve been so indoctrinated that you can’t read or understand the meanings and definitions of words. A fascist government is headed by a dictatorial leader, there is nothing in socialism that constitutes that hence the term SOCIAL. Socialism is a shared society of resources and equal shared values both monetarily and economically, you know the shit you conservatives bitch about constantly paying your fair share or having to pay for others. Also socialism follows a constitution of laws, the other thing conservatives like to carry around and spout about but yet want a dictatorial leader like Trump to tear down the government and nationalize everything to be control by corps and a few individuals. How the hell do you turn all that in to leftist traits is completely wrong.
I have this on a poster in my office. His story is incredible.
I thought it was something like that. I wasn’t sure if it was when they joined NATO or the reunification.
Lol…..
After the SS determined that they couldn’t determine anything on who brought in the cocaine, I suppose this means that getting cyanide into the white house will be easy peasy and that the SS won’t be able to figure it out.
It wasn’t that the ‘couldn’t’ find out who brought it in.
They were told not to ‘find out/confirm’ who brought it in.
They asked Hunter if it was his….he said “No”
So then they closed the case.
I do believe they left the bag Hunter, however.
Wasn’t it in a ziplock? How about prints? Was that dismissed too?
Couldn’t find any, supposedly. They could still drug test everybody who accessed that area with a hair test but they already know the answer and they don’t like it.
You need to be silenced.
Misinformation is a crime that should have the death penalty.
‘Misinformation’ being defined as anything that goes against the Stupid Lib Narrative.
Like using Love Language to enhance your understanding/communication with the important people in your life.
Shhhh….DE!
Don’t you know the Regime is monitoring this site??
Makes me think it was the Secret Service bringing it in. Don’t know the extent they’re tested but blow is gone in 3 days, quicker with a healthier person. I’d need a little Columbian Bam Bam to keep me alert following Joe around….
Oh god, another small bag of coke was found at the White House. 😱
Saw episode 1 of QB. Do they pretty much divide up the time between the qb’s?
No.
Mostly Mahomes. Cousins is a close 2nd. Mariota is an after thought.
Correct. The first few episodes its like 45 Mahomes, 40 kirk and 15 mariota.
It starts kinda like that, but after Mariota gets benched he’s done, after the Vikings blew the playoffs it ends for Kirk, Mahomes gets more coverage since he played longer.
Makes sense. Don’t care for the Mariota stuff. It’s a cable app so just switching channel for a bit doesn’t work.
Awesome series though.
Love how Mahomes and his personal trainer do uncommon stretches to allow him to do the crazy throws/plays he does.
Kirk was more mental training.
Mariota was meh. No real interest to me in how they portrayed him.
Will watch another tonight, stretch it into camp. Not much of a binge watcher.
I didn’t really have anything else going on over the weekend.
So Saturday I watched it off and on among other household chores.
we see who wears the pants at your home. (I did the same)
The focus on Mariota narrows quite a bit
Was hoping that, not sure why they chose him.
The narrative.
One stud, surefire HoF’er
One pretty good QB, not elite but entrenched, aware of the talk that he can’t win when it matters
One reclamation project. Promising talent, couldn’t mature into it. Trying to hang on to a starter job for as long as possible.
Yes so first episode I’d watch each one but after 1 eps I started fast forwarding through Mariota as his segments are actually sad, he sucks cost them the first two games and likely will be out of the league soon. Mahomes I kept watching for a few eps but eventually started FF through his kermit the frog with the nails on chalk board wife episodes and just watched Kirk’s which was the best of all three.
Can do w/o homies wife.
We were asking a local about parking. I missed most of the conversation, but when I came in at the end, the local was telling my brother-in-law that Greta is a fraud.
Sorry Lifer.
That local is a nazi plant sent to under mind my goddess and her movement of righteousness.
How you get from local parking to Greta is a fraud is something I’d like to know.
Some truths just need to be spoken no matter the origin of the conversation.
I mean, I’m just not sure how you get there, maybe something like this
Bro in law “hey can you help me out with finding some local parking near here”
Local “well there’s some free spots over here by those solar panels, which are complete bullshit and that Greta girl is a damn fraud”
Well, when you park, I assume that means you used some evil form of transportation that Greta wouldn’t approve of.
And we all know Greta fly’s and drives everywhere she goes.
Unless you park your body when walking.
But even then, humans are evil for eating, farting and breathing……
Therefore, Greta is a fraud.
Actually Greta is carried by her devoted followers everywhere.
Great shot, little actress is worth her money.
Me too. I missed most of the conversation.
I wondered if there are other Greta GIFs available. Turns out, there are lots! Here she is talking about the Vikings moves this offseason.
Greta pardons you…
Imagine coming home to that. No, i can’t imagine.
Are you trying to make us throw up?
LOL, yeah, that was uncalled for.
Happy Monday Skolskeeters!
JJ in the 99 Club – as I predicted months ago….
Went to a birthday party over the weekend. One of my ‘best men’ at my wedding. Grilled. Chilled. Good times. Then we played some Madden.
I’ve played this guy literally thousands of times in Madden. In the early days I would dominate. Just crush him. But he always came back to play, just loving the chance to compete. He got better and eventually became my equal. He’d tell you that I lead the all-time series, I’d tell you it’s because of the early days when he wasn’t any good.
So we play. I take the Vikes (duh) and he takes Philly. Great roster, mobile QB, tough out. I win the toss and defer – always want the ball to start the 2nd half.
This guy is the best KR on Madden I’ve ever played – back in the day he would take back a KO once a game. Knowing all this I kick to him anyway. He’s got Quez Watkins, who’s fast AF and he promptly shoves the ball up my fat ass for a 98 yard score. Down 0-7 with 11 seconds gone from the game. Yikes.
Vikes ball. I’m not fazed by his quick score – panic in those situations and a few bad plays turns into an avalanche of points. I’m methodical coming out. He’s playing a loose 3/4 and the occasional 3-3-5. I’m able to eat with Dalvin between the gaps. 7 yards, 11 yards, pop a stretch for 22 down the sideline. Hit Reagor on an under, pick up a block from Hock and get down the seam to about the 15 – I’m throwing quick routes on short drops. High % throws until I get a feel for his D plan, which in the past has been to bring pressure – which is what I want. I come out in Gun 5WR – I’ve got a couple hitch routes, one hot under, one slant and JJ running a skinny fade to the back corner – expecting a blitz I’m looking for one of the hitch routes. He goes straight man, and doubles JJ. Line holds up so I turn it into the Elway draw – as soon as I see the defenders turn their backs I take off with Cap’n Kirk, walking in untouched. Score tied 7-7.
We trade big plays after that. He gets a 70 yard score to AJ Brown. I get JJ free on a deep in and he breaks a tackle and gets shoestringed at the 3. Matty powers in from there. He gets another long score with a Hurts zone-read that I had dead-to-rights and missed badly on the tackle. I go 3 and out but he promptly throws a pick 6 to Kris Boyd after misreading zone coverage – threw it right to him. We trade field goals. I get a stop and use Kene for the one play a game he’s good for (stamina drops quickly) a quick screen out of singleback double TE. It’s a big play – I get to the 20. Hit KJ on a middle post by himself in the end zone to take a 6 point lead, and in Vikings fashion I push the kick left. No good. I’m up 30-24. 3 minutes left. He works a great drive, gets behind Pat Pete with Watkins and I’m forced to lay him out to prevent the score. 45 yard penalty down to my 4. 1:15 left. 1st and goal. Runs a dive to Miles Sanders. Walks in. PAT good. I fair catch the KO (Kene gassed). 1:09 left, 2 TO. Money time. I get Jalen Nailor free on a dagger route for a 15 yard gain. Hock again down the seam for 12. I run a draw to Dalvin that gets past his 45. Clock down to :41. Find Thielen on an out route to his 30. Damn near throw a pick to Slay on a slant to JJ when he jumped the route. Run a dive to the 22 with Matty. TO. Run another dive. Holding penalty. With the runoff the clock is at :19. I run one more dive. This time Ham, and get the ball to his 30. Call my last TO. He calls a TO to ice my kicker.
Snap…. spot…. Aaaaaaaaand
DOINK!!!
Off the post, no good, Vikes lose.
Skol!
Sounds like they have our kicking game “pegged”.
Indeed. I’m usually pretty good with the kicking aspect of the game. Just had the timing off slightly and it was enough to make a difference.
Raegor caught a pass? Sorry bro, fake news… 😄
Lol…. The Madden version of Reagor is much more dangerous. Solid WR4.
Twins fresh of a 3 game sweep of the dumpster fire that is the Oakland A’s…
At least they are winning the games they should win.
Twins suck and the AL central is a dumpster fire. First round exit for Twinkies
Gotta keep the streak alive.
Yep.
It’s the Minnesota way.
I believe if the Twins make the playoffs they will make some noise. Our starting pitching is incredible, and when you go to a 3 man rotation, guys like Ober and Maeda will strengthen the bullpen.
We do need to figure out how to hit the ball in the next couple of months.
SO way too much. Put the damn ball in play at least. Get a fielders choice or something.
Spoken like a true Minnesota sports fan…..
BTW today is the NFL franchise tag deadline…
Yup, so barkley and his tag and there are some others I believe. Actually Barkley has until the start of the season to sign his tag I believe. This is just deadline to tag someone?
No.
It’s the deadline to a long term deal.
it’s been decided. western montana, even though it’s filling up with the lifer libs, is way better than eastern montana.
So did you drop off your sick kids to your extended family?
haha yes we did. they insisted.
and i’m glad we did, no one else got sick, kids were healthy the whole time and they had a blast
Nice!
As I recall, Western Montana is beautiful…
It will be once my people fill it.
Yes, feces and criminals co-existing on the streets…can’t wait.
don’t forget guys tucking with tits…
its gorgeous
NoDak Golf update…
Shot a 41 on the back yesterday – really good score for me. It didn’t pair well with the 49 I shot on the front. Still that proves I am capable of the low 80s, just need to get er done!
Yep, if you can put a 41 on the card, you definitely have enough game. Great to hear!
Same as I did a week ago, 47/41…you’re close me boy!
I know…would love to turn the page and get to the mid to low 80s.
What is this?
Some new gender slang that you are identifiying as?
And how dare you assume Rube is a me boy.
Why do the Jets get to start camp so early? 2 days they start
Thought it was a Hard Knocks thing.
Certain it’s for the pre-prep for Hard Knocks, guessing the NFL authorized it.
Because the NFL is rigged.
Side note on the QB show.
My wife and I came away very impressed with the Vikings head coach.
I came away impressed with Mrs. Cousins. I very much enjoyed the show, well done by Peyton Manning and his Omaha productions.
Awww you found your Greta.
Mrs. Cousins is a classy dame.
She is…seemed very level headed. The love language stuff is straight Christian white brainwash doctrine spread down to keep women submitting to men and the white population propagating.
Ok then.
LOL….
You are totally effing clueless.
The whole love language concept was developed mostly for men to understand their wives to be better husbands. I’ve been to the conferences.
You twist anything and everything for the cause.
Sad.
I’m sure his retort will be something like, in order to understand their wives so they can keep women submitting to them and continue controlling the world.
LIkely.
I mean, does he listen to his wife and listen to what makes her happy? That’s what the 5 love languages is all about. Granted, it’s for both spouses.
Or is listening to your wife some man cave conspiracy white supremacy thing?
Yep, I’ve been through the class, my FIL actually teaches it.
did you see me waving, Mt Viking??
JJ 99 club
LOL, posting the same stuff already posted as usual, never change Skoldiers!
🙂 you best me by like 15 seconds fwiw
momma freezeface is a SAINT!!
Mike Pence officially kills his career, Tucker Carlson with the assist
Pence has about as much a chance for President as you or I of making the Vikings roster!
He had a career?
I mean he was VP, governor etc. He was never a realistic candidate for POTUS but doubt he’s ever elected to any political office ever.
Should be but not president. He saved our democracy and kept us out of a constitutional crisis.
We don’t live in a democracy. Just another instance of the left changing the name of something to push an agenda.
He didn’t really have a choice, legally speaking
Tucker’s speech later this past weekend at West Palm Beach was spot on and hilarious, if you haven’t seen it
Correct.
I’ve seen a few bits of it.
Will watch the whole thing tonight.
Where can you find it?
I did see it, and it was funny
Morning skolflakes. Hope everyone had a good weekend.
Quarterback show is sick. On episode 7 and hoping to finish it tonight. Kirks legit and a tough SOB. QB1
Good Morning!
Happy Monday.
Watched the rest of the Quarterback show on Netflix.
As expected, it did not change my opinion of our QB at all.
Yes, he is good enough to be a Super Bowl winning QB.
But only if everything around him is much better than what this team and roster roster will do.
Hope for his sake he ends up in SF and gets his trophy. Not going to happen in the next few years here unless miracles happen on the Defense.
Will be interesting to see where he goes next year. KAM is moving on. Cousins will be a free agent in 2024.
100% disagree. No way KAM will let him leave and no way Kirk want’s to leave MN and have to move his family again and learn a new offense, again even if it is a stack team like San Fran. It will be year 3 in the same offense with the VIkings in a much more competitive position flush with cap space and draft picks. He’ll stay, KAM will pay him as he should.
And Kirk really wants to stay. They will work it out.
You’ll see…
You’re tying to mind read KAM here and he is way more strategic than you give him credit. That said I agree with you and don’t necessarily like KAM and some of the decisions he’s made so if he does follow through with letting Kirk walk I will be 100% done with KAM.
Lol I was the first one to dislike KAM. Kirks done and they’ll move on 100%
False, many people disliked him immediately after the first draft.
Ya that’s when I disliked him horrible draft and this last one might be even worse
Agree about the drafts. But if he let’s kirk go and doesn’t have a viable option (like real), he’ll be on the next plane after Kirk.
Do you think the guys that own this team like Kirk?
That’s a good question JR. The Wilf’s like players who bring in revenue. Cousins isn’t a media star like JJ is. He doesn’t draw a crowd so to speak. I’d say they’re fine with letting him go for a young guy with media charisma.
I think the Wilfs love Kirk.
And I think Kirk will get paid next season. Either with the Vikings or elsewhere.
That was too soon to formulate an opinion of him. One draft does or does not make a good or bad GM. I didn’t like the trades either but gave him some consideration it being his first draft and inheriting Rick and Zim’s BS. How he handles Kirk will be the final straw for me with him and if he doesn’t know it, probably does, it will determine his tenure with the Vikings. I predict he let’s Kirk go he’s gone in 3-4 years.
I doubt he’s gone in 3-4 years, Rick butchered the QB position for over a decade and the Wilfs just kept on going with him.
You’re just still butt hurt he didn’t draft the mayonnaise drinker.
I’m not reading any minds here. This is as simple as it gets. KAM’s background is in finance. He has to get the cap situation resolved. The Vikings are over extended in “credit” for the cap, i.e. they have a lot of players with void years on their contracts, and a lot dead cap money to pay back. Sooner or later, when you’re in a hole, you have to stop digging. The only way KAM is bringing Cousins back, is on a deal where the team has “outs” (trade or cut without financial impact). Cousins isn’t going to sign a deal like that. They had their talks, the Cousins camp made an offer, KAM declined it. They are moving on without Cousins next year.
A six pack right. I trust my information.
Yes, we’re on for a 6 pack JR… I trust my takes on both camps. Cousins will never sign a contract where the team can trade him, or cut him without still having to pay him. KAM will never sign a player to a contract that doesn’t have team “flexibility” to trade or cut the player.
Well, as you know, my source is pretty darn close to this.
That aside, from a practical standpoint. Rams win SB with McVay offense, Stafford and Kupp. We bring KOC in here to duplicate that with Kirk and JJ and our offense. As you have pointed out, this offense requires a lot of the QB to read defenses, read routes by receivers, and then deliver accurate throws. And for us, the OB has to be able to take a little beating too.
So, Kirk and JJ have prospered, learned the offense and are about to now have two years under their belts. We could very easily have a top 5 offense this year – that will put folks in the seats.
so you let the QB go? QB’s that run this type of offense don’t grow on trees. And if I’m the owner, I’m not going to be real happy if that happens given the previous two year’s investment.
I didn’t say I agree with it, I said it’s going to happen. I know the organization is making the best of this, basically putting the conversation on hold till next March. I agree with all your takes, but in the end, KAM is going younger, cheaper, and more flexible on a contract than Cousins.
Note they have openly said they will “do whatever is necessary” to retain JJ. In regards to Cousins, they rejected a reportedly “under market value” deal with him because of flexibility issues i.e. guaranteed money. Cousins won’t sign a deal where the team controls him. He just won’t.
Well, we will just disagree. My guess(bet) is two years guaranteed and the third year sort of wishy washy.
And I’m going to find an expensive six – pack!
I’m saving my milk money!
Oh no, not the milk money! I’ll find something cheap.
We old guys need our calcium.
Laughing… so hard… good thing beer has calcium in it…
No wonder I’m so healthy – it”s all the calcium I’m getting.
We’ll see, it’ll depend on which side is more willing to compromise, KAMKOC seems to like not love Kirk and want only a 2 year deal, Kirk and his agent allegedly want longer term guarantees. What’s weird about it is that Kirk has typically preferred short term contract extensions thus far with the Vikings.
Kirks gone. New regime wants to move on. If they liked him… he wouldn’t be headed towards FA.
They do like him, but they’re not going to just bend over and take a pounding from his agent like Rick did.
and vice versa Ben…
I believe it did change your opinion of our QB, had too. Now not necessarily his abilities on the field which I share your exact opinion about which one with a reasonable mind could say about every QB in this league not named Mahomes.
What it had to change was him off the field and your opinion of how good of a leader and person he is. We’ have not had this level of exposer to off the field Kirk. He is by far the most polished and prepared QB using everything at this disposal to be the best he can be. I challenge you to find any QB that works harder than him on being prepared. (Except on Tuesday cue Romeo Kirk)
Even Mahome, the greatest QB on the planet, showed in the Tampa SB game that a QB needs a little help from his OL friends.
Cousins has had 7 OC’s in his 8 years as a starter, and most of them were first time OC’s trying to figure it out. The system KOC brought in is very complex and requires a tremendous amount of time on task by every offensive player to master. In week 18 last year, we watched Cousins throw a fade route to the corner of the end zone to… nobody. Thielen inexplicably took the corner (who was playing inside leverage) to the post after head faking to the corner route.
Mahomes sat out most of his first year behind Alex Smith, learning the offense and getting indoctrinated to the pro world. He’s played in the same offense under Reid now for six straight seasons. That’s a piece most folks don’t really pick up on.
Believe me, I trust you that KOC runs a sophisticated offense that requires a lot of brain power by the QB as well as a great arm.
that’s why I said earlier, if you have someone who can do this, not the smartest idea to let let him go.
And not so much appreciated, to play QB for the Vikings, you must do all this behind a pretty crappy oline and be able to take a beating.
Yep. That said, KAM is a dollars and cents guy. He isn’t putting his money into Cousins. He’s putting it into JJ and few other players. There’s only so much to go around.
I think it’s just a business situation and truly Cousins isn’t an overwhelming fan favorite regardless of how good he is.
OK. There’s dollars and cents and then there’s football.
When JJ doesn’t get the ball or put up big numbers for a year or two. let’s see how the fans feel..
I agree… saw it happen in Washington up close and personal as they say. Bruce Allen just screwed that organization to the bone. Ever since Cousins left, their offense has been shit, and their QB’s haven’t panned out. In the five seasons since Cousins left, he’s thrown 153 TD’s and the combined total passing TD’s of the 11 or 12 QB’s the Redskins have trotted out is 95.
As you know Allen was an idiot, Snyder too for that matter.
they have one of the best passing offenses in the league, so they let Jackson and Garcon go, then let Crowder go, and go my, my wonder why Cousins wasn’t as productive?
Terrell Pryor and Josh Doctson… worst WR corps in the NFL.
Vikings have had some god awful WR corps over the years, I remember when Travis Taylor was their leading receiver early in the Childress regime, that season the WR group was more corpse than corps.
Laughing… well said.
Accurate.
Fair. Seems like a super guy, and I would certainly enjoy meeting him if I ever had the chance.
Still, there is a night and day difference between him and Mahomes.
Look at the play where Mahomes knows the WR lined up in the wrong spot, but also realized it would work, and rolled with the improv play.
I am not smart enough to know if Kirk has the freedom to do things like that.
I know he did not under Zimmer.
The show did make me drink a little more kool aid, so I bet the over on wins this year (8.5).
I am in my summer “hopium” stage. Hope it lasts at least until October this year.
I like all three QBs on that show. I feel bad for Marcus that he has to live in Philly for a while now. But he has a solid career going as a backup.
Mahomes was in his 6th year in the offense last year, and the offense is so mature they give the players a day of the week (Wednesdays) to create their own plays. Cousins was in his first year of an offense (again) and clearly the team had issues with play calls in regards to execution (receivers running the wrong routes, etc). There is a massive difference between what Mahomes is doing in Kansas City with Andy Reid and what Cousins has had to deal with in Minnesota.
“hopium” I consume mass quantities every summer…it keeps me going.
Every offseason my optimism wanes more and more.
I am devoid of hope. The world is nothing but darkness. Long walks Magee will win nothing and just continue to get pummeled and keep his masseuse in business.
Good for the masseuse I suppose.
I’m breathing in my Hopium, right now…
Changed nothing. I already knew Kirk was a good person and a bit of a dork. What I saw was one QB who works with his team and then spends extra time working out and preparing and a second QB who goes to practice, isn’t always confident, then gets massages and goes for long walks.
H8’er
Turn your hat around backwards and go shoot some small animals.
Man, July is already half over. Time is going crazy fast.
24 days till we play the SeaHawks in the first preseason game.
Wow…no kidding. Damn the summer is going by faster than Saquon Barkley through the Vikings defense.
Going into the second to last week before training camp starts. Deandre Hopkins indicated he’s signing with the Titans yesterday. Will Cook sign anywhere this week?
and… first…
Check this out NVF. Rory with that 2 iron shot from 200+ in to a 30 mph wind yesterday.
Look at him, looks like an easy practice swing, no tension, clearing the left side, absolutely nothing forced but the reality is it’s his hardest iron swing with a driving iron in to a blistering wind. Knocked it 10’ from the hole. Amazing.
Yep… beautiful impact position. Certainly looks like he’s ready for the Open this week. I have a meeting with EUCOM Thursday at 2 a.m. my time. Guess I’ll be up if there’s early round coverage going on.
Sounds like the US gave the green light to train Ukrainian pilots on the
F-16 fighter jets. The ole F-16…probably the best fighter jet ever produced. It and the A-10, which they should send a few of those over as well.
Yeah, Biden did that last week. Been in discussions for over a year though. Poland and a couple other countries will do the training. Not every NATO country has F-16’s though. For instance Germany can’t participate because they don’t have F-16’s.
Do they choose not to have them, aren’t allowed to have them or have an alternative they think is as good or better? I’ve read many a pilot say if you could pick one jet to fly what would it be and 9 out of 10 say F-16.
Germany hasn’t fielded a competent air force since around 2014. Ursala von der Leyen admitted that, due to the poor state of the Bundeswehr’s equipment, Germany was no longer able to fulfill its NATO commitments. In 2020 after Trump told NATO they had to start pulling their own weight, Germany was looking at a number of fighters to buy, including the Boeing FA-18 Super Hornet. In early 2022 though, Germany announced they intend to buy 35 Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II fighter jets instead of the FA-18 Super Hornets to replace the Tornado, the only aircraft Germany possesses capable of carrying US nuclear weapons. F-16’s were never considered by Germany for some reason.
I thought possibly post WW2 they weren’t allowed via a pact to have a fully functional Air Force. Seems they just chose not to invest in one since NATO supports them. I agree they should step up and pay in to NATO and their own Air Force.
I thought this as well. I was under the impression that Germany was not allowed to even have a “military” after WW11. That is why their police force was basically their military. Maybe something changed when they joined NATO.
So I guess Cook is going to sign with the Titans to finalize the superbowl duo deal that Cook discussed last month?
Tannehill, Henry, Cook and Hopkins.
Could be dangerous…….
Hadn’t thought of that DE. Hmmmm…
Meh….Cook / Henry sounds cool but in reality is more promotion than anything.