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I’m sitting here watching the Saints-Jaguars game. The Saints just came back to tie it at 24, but it’s late and I highly doubt I’ll watch this one to the end. My opponent in the fantasy league has both Etienne and Kamara, so I’m getting smoked so far this week.
I hope everyone’s work week is going well. I really love fall. Football is in full swing, it’s bird season, the walleye rush is about to start, and the weather in North Dakota this year is surprisingly tolerable. Heck, it was 70 here yesterday. We don’t get many days like that up here in late October, I’ll take it. I can recall many years being buried in snow by this time of year.
Minnesota Vikings Discussion Topic of the Day
Since the Vikings don’t play until Monday night, are you going to use your extra time this weekend to put something on the smoker or grill? I’m gonna fire up the smoker, I just don’t know for sure what type of dead meat is going to go on the grate. Decisions, decisions.
Minnesota Vikings News:
Judd Zulgad says that the Vikings’ reliance on Alexander Mattison in the run game raises questions. I’m a bit perplexed myself. Akers appears to be an upgrade over Mattison, especially in the feature back role. He certainly appears to have more home-run power, and he would most certainly boost the Vikings current rushing production. I assume the coaching staff have their reasons for rolling with Mattison, but to we mortal fans, it seems counter-intuitive.
Vikings.com brings you your NFL week 7 Vikings-49ers injury report.
NFL.com has a trade deadline tracker where they track all of the moves made since the start of the regular season.
From ESPN, Saquon Barkley says he wants to stay with the Giants and not be traded, and Anthony Richardson is to have season-ending shoulder surgery.
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Risner starting.
Utah 34 USC 32 on a last second FG.
Pretty good game.
Site is slow as hell. Enjoy NFL tomorrow.
yup,
Hard to keep up with all the fast moving conversations.
It bogs, no thanks.
it’s fine on my
Computer and phone, but my tablet is old so when there’s this many comments my tablet will barely work.
I have a few sec delay when I post something.
Minor inconvenience is all.
I have reloaded a few times and that normally helps.
Your results may vary.
The pig comes home.
Floyd?
Him.
Gophers…..🤣😂😆
Missed why they changed Iowa TD….
They say he gave an illegal fair catch signal
Got a decent chance with 90s left against a ranked opponent on the road.
I am not going to hate.
Interception, Rodent D stepped up big time.
Rodents actually up 12 – 10. Half way thru the 4th.
BAMA flipped a switch at halftime.
Still lots of game left.
Never mind that ‘scoop and score’ looks like the dagger. 33 -20 Bama.
Alabama took 2 plays to go 75yds after halftime to get within 14 – 20 of Tennessee.
Could be a barn burner like last year.
That’s the game I’m watching
Rodents hanging tough so far, 10 – 6.
That’s they only way they can win.
16-13 or something
Better than losing 37 – 34 in OT after blowing that halftime lead at Northwestern.
10 – 9, they got to the 9 and settled for a FG with 2:25 left in the 3rd.
The final injury report out for Monday?
https://www.vikings.com/team/injury-report/
The Big 3.
Christian McCaffrey
RBObliqueDNP DNP LP Questionable.
Deebo Samuel
WRShoulderDNP DNP DNP Out
Trent Williams
OTAnkleDNP DNP DNP doubtful
Thanks! What’s that Jones status mean?
Says FP for Sat so I guess he is good.
It means he is a full go as of right now.
probably a go if he warms up ok on Monday night.
Yep. It’s a dash, which means he is not in question of playing. Allegedly.
I do wonder if we are already in a recession and the data is being manipulated.
They have a whole fleet of guys that can post now, but apparently none of them care about the weekend.
A message to me….
Almost makes one think ‘once they get Admin/Author rank’ then they are too important to do mundane things like post a weekend thread.
Good thing I never had very much power then.
I’ve had a little power here and there and I feel like I handled it appropriately. However, if I had absolute power, watch out.
I had power over Inmates while working in prison.
Had to frequently remind myself to not overuse it.
So very easy to do especially when you believe they deserve it.
I suggest weekend threads if nothing else to clean and speed site up. Just my opinion man.
Watched some Gophers, rather watch paint dry.
Was going to say, it’s pretty painful to watch gopher football……
Some better games coming up soon.
Looking forward to Utah- USC to see if Kfey93s love child can come back or if good defenses are his Kryptonie.
When I was eating lunch I turned on Rutgers and whoever they were playing (Indiana?). The whole 20 minutes I was eating, there was about 2 passes. Rutgers ran the ball over and over and over. I thought I had time traveled to 1901 or something.
How does one get excited about a FG?
I haven’t even turned on the Gopher game. Is that all they have done?
10 – 3 at half.
Iowa of course.
I’m actually surprised it is that close.
10-3 Iowa.
In the land of the blind a ‘one-eyed’ man is King?
Minny sports. Abject failure on every level.
We will always have ’87 and ’91 I guess.
Too young to know about the ‘old gopher’ and Minnesota Lakers Team that had success.
UofM has won 3 NCAA wrestling championships as well. All this century even.
And had 18 total Individual champions over the years.
Last one being Gable Stevenson.
Ok, digging a bit. Guess i reference pro sports mainly.
WNBA world champion Lynx!!!
I followed that one year.
Then WNBA got way to woke.
Then the regular NBA followed along.
I never follow NBA. Ever.
Just remembered they “won a world title”
🤣
Much like a ‘kind of follow’ hockey. At least until the Wild are eliminated from contention.
Never watch it though.
I do watch hockey. Just not a huge Wild fan.
Will try and watch Wild tonight, getting to point i want competitive sports or i turn off.
Gopher hockey was dominate in the 1970s.
Several national championships.
1980 US hockey team with Herb Brooks was 50% Minnesota.
11 more games with Kirk at QB.
Let’s hope for some entertainment.
Interesting.
Just learned that you can put Dry Ice in beverages for the spooky Halloween effect (fog, bubbles).
Evidently the ice sinks to the bottom and so you can drink the beverage safely just be sure not to ingest the Dry Ice itself.
Not something I would want to try with kids drinks or with drinks with too high an alcohol content. Maybe a punchbowl would be ok??
I watched an episode of some bartender reality show, and one person used dry ice in their cocktail, and the judges refused to drink it because it was too dangerous.
I was surprise to learn that it can be put into drinks.
With obvious warnings and caveats included.
Never around kids and drunks I don’t think.
I guess my point is, if professional bartenders wouldn’t drink a drink with dry ice in it, it must not be safe to do.
I don’t think I would try it.
Maybe a bunch bowl if it is sitting at the bottom and you scoop just from the top??
I would still be very careful.
Huh? Shouldn’t a weekend thread have same priority as a daily?
For posting one? I would hope/think so.
For commenting on? Evidently not.
With no Viking game tomorrow this one will probably see us thru.
Ohio St up 10 – 6 at the half.
Defenses seem to have the edge so far but we will if they wear down in the 2nd half.
Wow,
Ohio St just got a 72yd punt with no return.
Must have gotten a great bounce and roll.
Ohio St wins 20 – 12.
Gopher time now I guess.
They are only down 3 – 0 so far.
There was a time when Lifer, with some help from NLV, carried the discussions for the weekend threads. Miss those guys.
Wonder if Lifer can break 90 yet, and if NLV is safe.
If by ‘carried the discussions’ you mean babbled about golf then yes they did.
Praying for NLNVF
golf better than nothing – maybe?
For those entertained by golf and golf discussion, sure. I usually just scroll past it. Problem is, many times there’s not much talk beyond that to scroll to. Is what it is.
Some good collage games on this weekend, highlighted by Penn State at Ohio State.
That will be my focus for entertainment today.
Good college games too. But I’m excited to see what the art departments of Penn State and Ohio State do as well…..
Ohio St up 3 – 0 just now.
Air Force up on Navy 7 – 0 after 1qtr.
Interesting as I know how important those games are to the Academys.
I guess I will root for AF as I was stationed in Colorado Springs (Ft Carson) for a few years so I am more familiar with them.
Didn’t mean to upset you guys. Simply meant when nothing else is available, golf is better than nothing Sometimes, a discussion of just about anything can lead to a lot of places – some fairly interesting.
Just yesterday a discussion of religion, hardly a topic i would ever mention, but I found it interesting and informative..
I wasn’t upset at all, sorry if I inferred that I was.
Golf treads are better than No treads, I can agree to that much.
I just won’t be participating in those other that to throw in a sarcastic comment about Golf Treads.
Guess that should have been ‘implied’ instead of ‘inferred’.
Tough living with a teacher.
No problem. I could use more teacher help.
I accuse her of being an English Teacher.
She responds with ‘I am a 1st grade Teacher so I teach mostly reading’.
So I ask ‘what language do you teach in?’
‘And you are teaching them to read in what language’.
She has given up arguing that point. (smiles)
I can babble about golf. I golfed 9 today, hit the ball well, did not keep score, lost two balls in the water. Came home and took a nap while watching football.
Fall weekends are awesome.,
Tomorrow is the last golf outing for me this year.
Lifer wants accolades on return. We missed you so much!
I have heard a couple of posts saying he was missed.
About the same as I have heard say ‘not so much’.
Lifer used to be a guy that I couldn’t stand. Now, he doesn’t bother me that much. Maybe I have grown as a person (unlikely), or maybe it is just exposure therapy. There is however another guy that comments right now that is a burr under my saddle with just about everything he says. Sometime there are people that just don’t mesh, while that same person doesn’t bother other people.
Depends on which version we get.
The calm/thoughtful/articulate one isn’t bad.
But that one doesn’t last very long.
I have often been concerned about his mental health.
He is very unstable.
Luckily he never worked at a post office.
Don’t need him going Postal.
This is kind of a long thread to roll over to the weekend.
But if you’re into the quantity side of the house, it’s impressive.
Yup,
There were a lot of interesting topics discussed with the minimal of drama.
Almost as if there were some adults participating.
Un-possible I know.
Excellent discussions yesterday. And adult participation.
I actually went back and read some today – learned some stuff.
Haha.
Reminded my of my nephews when I would spend time with them on the weekends.
“Please don’t make us Learn anything on a weekend’.
I don’t have many friends that can quote scriptures – it was neat to follow.
I had 12 years in Catholic schools so I am familiar with the discussions.
I have ‘Catholic Informed Morals’ that I have developed over the years that work for me.
The Bible, for me, is a guide not a rulebook.
But I have no problem with other peoples ideas on religion.
The whole ‘we will try harder to get weekend threads up’ thing last thru and entire weekend.
It is interesting. I’ve always thought that open threads could be scheduled in advance but I may have misunderstood.
I have heard Brad say that he ‘scheduled’ the threads.
How far in advance that is possible I am unsure.
Interesting thread today. You are all wrong, but interesting.
Which is better?
Interesting and wrong?
Right and boring?
I am guessing ‘how much alcohol is involved?’.
It was a fun week in my bookstore. I added an eclectic group of books. From an 1857 religious text to a 2002 limited edition of horror/fantasy/scifi short stories that was signed by all 19 contributors to a signed edition of a children’s book by an author that lives here in Wisconsin. Of course I also had some generic stuff, but the other stuff is what makes it fun.
Good for you!
Got my Nephew a 100+ year old hymnal at a book fair. It was in German but he wanted it for the music as he was learning to play the guitar.
Surprising it was only about $5. Nice when you can support the young ones on the cheap.
Most of those older hymnals do not have much of a dollar value. They are interesting to look through however.
Sounds awesome.
I also ran across a book from the 70s call “The Prostitution Papers”. There was some weird stuff printed in the 70s.
Pictures?
I read Myra Breckenridge as a youth.
I am still trying to recover.
Sadly the book didn’t have Rachel Welch in it like the movie did.
This book is supposedly a non-fiction narrative from 4 different prostitutes. I just glanced at it and parts looked interesting, but when I read part of the introduction, I realized that the author was just a crazy feminist.
I LOVE bookstores. Unfortunately many have closed due to the on line thing. We recently took the grands to an awesome one in Lexington, where I took my daughter often when we were living there. Not only did it survive, it actually expanded. Not really any decent ones left in Louisville.
My weekend starting 2 hours…
Weird Al auto rec
@New thread guideline@:
Keep sports out
Well sports can be quite divisive… I agree.
Get the damn truck fixed!
Its a car…try and keep up!
OOPS…..
But if we just ‘be cool to one another’ we can talk sports.
Does anybody know where our offensive line is really ranked? Ws looking around and it’s like the weather reports.
Was asking as Cleveland had success running the ball against SF with little passing threat.
Was thinking maybe we could run some too.
I do believe that they don’t smell nearly as rank as they used to.
Sum total of my expertise.
Just thinking some how we might go about attacking that defense playing without JJ.
Read on here we were ranked 1 for rushing. Cleveland is ranked 3. If they can do it, why can’t we?
What did their QB rush for?
Having a running QB has to change the dynamic having to account for him as well.
Never mind Deshawn was out for that game.
there QB ran a little, not much. But he couldn’t hit a barn throwing the ball.
Now, their RB’s ran really hard.
Mattison runs hard, too.
We should be able to tun the ball better then. No?
What he meant was Mattison runs hard right into the D lineman next to the running lane.
This is actually what I meant, Mattison runs hard and absorbs contact, but man he misses some cuts.
Honestly. if you have a top 10 line, even a mediocre back should be productive – far better than this.
If he’s as you say, get someone else in there. Otherwise, you’re just wasting your line play.
true enough, I am on the Akers band wagon.
You’re preaching to the choir here. Go talk to KOC and his buds.
Back in the day, I played with some RBs with incredible physical talent, and I played with some running backs with great vision, the really good ones had both. But if you only have one, vision > physical talent.
Just my opinion – which could be wrong.
Akers/Ty have better vision. Someone tell KOC.
I am 100 percent on that.
But he won’t take my calls.
Well he probably has ‘Caller ID’.
I agree.
I’m a little older. there was once a GB team that had two great running backs – one FB Jim Grabowski . Both got hurt
They won an NFC Championship game with a RB named Chuck Mercen – basically a taxi squad player.
Great line play though
No doubt vision and talent are big things.
Adrian Peterson would disagree
He was a freak.
AP also had fantastic vision
And a fantastic orange peanut.
BLR rec
Horrible vision
We are ranked where rushing?
I read it on this site earlier in the week 1 in rushing and 3 for passing. I can’t find it anywhere else though..
In Rushing Yards Cleveland is 9th and we are 27th.
In O-line ranking, that is subjective/opinion, PFF and NFL think we are better than most fans here do.
Stop trying to give me hope…If we are 1 in rushing Oline why did we gain 44 yeards on 20 first downs vs the Bears.
It doesn’t pass the smell test.
I actually asked that question here earlier in week when I saw the #1 ranking. I basically said something doesn’t add up.
Think we are #30, maybe i’m missing your point.
WE are 1 in oline run block ranking…30 in actual rushing yards.
makes perfect sense.
Ok, that is advanced math for me.
New math?
2+2=5.
As long as you can explain your reasoning you get credit.
No matter how wrong your answer is.
And the generation being educated right now is the generation that some day will be in charge of our airline system, medical system, etc…where the right answer actually does matter.
Trust me The Teacher lets me know all the time about how bad it is.
They keep filling her ‘teaching time’ with requirements for woke activities.
Then they blame her if her students don’t test well enough on the topics that they took the time from.
Admins/Gov have no interest in actual teaching subjects until they need to find someone to blame.
Easiest ones to blame are the teachers.
This is why my wife retired…because of all the shit you just mentioned. She loved the kids, loved TEACHING, but the rest of the crap just got to be too much.
She was a dedicated, excellent teacher, but enough was enough.
We are almost there.
Bad admin + Bad parents can ruin it for all teachers.
Your wide is a teacher – God bless her!
This is her last school year before retirement.
She is counting down the days.
Less than VP left.
That is sad – this country so badly needs good teachers.
But hope she enjoys a well deserved retirement.
Retirement home already purchased in Idaho.
think you’re correct and that’s what I don’t understand. A top run blocking line and we can’t run the ball? Baffling to me.
I am sure you have seen what I have, ESPN and PFF both have them in the top 10, but I can’t find their actual rankings.
Even if that is 10, that’s pretty good – we should be able to run the ball efectively..
Why not both?
KOC could be a triathlon runner while still being an NFL coach.
Some funny stuff.
Those are good.
John Harbaugh’s is hilarious….
1050 days until I retire from my outside job and go 100% on my bookstore.
Yes, I am counting down.
That is close to 3 years…but you can see it from here!
I asked a inmate once how much time he had left after he referenced only having ‘a minute left’.
He said 13 years.
I said ’13 years = a minute’?????.
Hit reply blew me away.
He said ‘less time than my dad has’.
Wow.
Exactly.
Need a certain mindset to work in prison.
But once you have said mindset it can be entertaining.
How long was his sentence? If he’d already served 30+ years 13 probably does seem a minute to him.
Don’t know. Could have looked it up if I cared enough at the time. He looked to be in his 30s though.
We were not computerized in our Housing Unit at the time and going to ‘records’ wasn’t worth the effort.
Still gave me an insight to how they think.
2 years, 10.5 months.
When I was in the Army, this was just getting started.
Not even a ‘3 digit midget’ yet.
Old Army term.
150 weeks.
I always found that for me Counting Down and focusing on how much time I had left made it more difficult for me.
You had to remember to get things done related to future moves but daily counting? Didn’t work for me.
I have a formula in my retire spreadsheet that calculates the days. I don’t look at it all the time, but on occasion I like to look at it and see my progress. I have a good job and a good side job, but I am ready for the side job to be my only job.
Glad you are making it work.
I remember you asking about the book sideline and my response ‘do what you love and you will never work a day in your life’.
That quote is a bit over the top but the sentiment works well.
Not like me, retired almost 4yrs now and still trying to figure out what to be when I grow up.
I just have to remember ‘childish’ is bad but ‘child like’ is good.
A fine line sometimes.
Some people never learn the difference.
I keep telling my wife that she needs to get a second job so I can retire now. That never goes over well.
The Teacher never gave me a hard time over retiring.
She said I worked long and hard enough that I didn’t need any ‘honey-do list from her’.
I appreciated that.
Good for her. My wife is a teacher also. She dislikes doing anything with our finances and she trusts me to handle it all. She keeps telling people that she will retire when I let her. She has a great sense of humor.
The Teacher had her retirement date set in her head when I met her.
She is super organized and proactive.
Pretty much the opposite of me.
I tell her that is why we make such a good team.
She just rolls her eyes.
only like 9k more days until I retire
I have 13 years and 3 months left. @should start making plans for the retirement party@
Awesome!
Read the discussion about Canada vs US health care way down the page.
The Teacher went to the ER a few weeks ago, they figured she had an Abscess and had/was Sepsis. So they drained the abscess, admitted her so they could get anti-biodics into her via IV and monitor her to insure the abscess stayed drained. She stayed two nights until they cleared her.
This week the insurance (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) denied the claim saying it was just ‘wound care’. Working on getting the hospital/health insurance to work it out together.
@it should be fun@
It is so infuriating, our health care system is a mess of inefficiencies and overpaid Radiologists (O.K. that was a cheap shot).
This is why I believe we will adopt a one payer, government run system.
Now under that system, your wife’s care would have likely been delayed for several hours and she would be dead now, but hey you wouldn’t be worrying about the insurance.
So per the insurance she should have refused the Dr’s orders for admittance because she would know better then them?
One of the symptoms of Sepsis is lightheadedness/change in mental status.
Yup, perfect for refusing care and going home.
Just remember the ER is not in the business of optimizing care and being cost efficient. They are in the business of getting you out of the ER. And…not once do doctors stop and say will this inpatient visit be covered by insurance. It is what it is. I would imagine there will be a medical necessity convo between the insurance doc and the admitting docs/discharge notes and that will be the end of it.
They wanted to wait for an MRI before releasing her.
But that was not related to the original issue, they just saw a ‘smudge’ on her kidney that might have a cyst and wanted to check it out.
We said ‘yeah will do that outpatient rather than wait another day for the MRI to have an opening’.
Oh that’s a monster pet peeve of mine…inpatient billing is captitated by DRG and extra imaging done as part of entering the radiology vortex just gets sucked into the admission cost. F that. You can follow that questionable lesion as an outpatient.
Might have to explain Diagnostic Related Groups to the rest of the class.
Paid based on the condition that landed them in the hospital, not based on the care that is given or how long they stay.
Fixed price by condition.
They were kind of shocked that we refused the MRI.
Kaiser was having it’s strike so more people coming in needing an MRI.
ER patients had a higher priority, with good reason.
MRI was ‘across the street’ so medical transport was required.
MRI broke for a few hours, pushing her further down the queue.
It might have another day (or two) if we waited for the hospitals machine.
This ^.
Also, we deal with families all the time who bring us another therapy order from the MD after insurance has already cut them off.
We’re the ones stuck telling the family member “The doctor can write all the orders he/she wants, your insurance won’t pay for it.”
We didn’t see the denial until it was mailed to her two weeks after the fact.
Paperwork was dated while she was in the hospital though.
I am betting that for SoCal that abscess was drained by radiology. Maybe not. But yeah hoho haha what you say rings of truth, she wouldn’t have died but the time waiting for that drain (which may have never happened) would have been significant and she may have just been hospitalized on IV antibiotics for a week or so before discharge on PO abics.
yes, I know she probably wouldn’t have died but her care likely delayed. Drs Salaries are not the problem with the US health system. I can think of several real problems though… fragmented care, 26,000 different insurance and billing procedures, way too much litigation, just to name a few.
We counted 5 Drs that visited/talked to her in her 36 hr stay.
Started to think they wanted to be able to get some billable time by stopping by.
Yep, I often swing by labor and delivery to admire the gravid bellies and then the nursery to bounce the little babies. Parents will ask who are you? (oh Dr. MT a radiologist) is there something wrong with our baby! (oh no they haven’t even ordered imaging) why are you here? (just to wet my beak with a small percentage of your bill.)
Would hope that the gougers make enough without that kind of stuff but human nature being what it is…….
Had a shyster lawyer BIL who would/could talk all day about how to make $$ with creative billing.
Helps you see behind the curtain enough that you have to watch out for it.
Heh I hope you know it was sarcasm. Actually had an issue with my MEC involvement where a surgeon was not rounding daily on patients (they were being seen by hospitalist as well). That’s a big no-no both from compliance and billing standpoint, plus not good customer service to say the least.
Oh absolutely.
It would be an extreme example if you tried it.
Would be curious to know how often it worked on newborns.
How do you have time for all of that and time to spend on this site?
I type fast.
We can tell from all the typos.
I often picture MT’s dictations as such:
CT abd/pelvis with contrast
The lung bases are clear liver homogenous there may be a single ball er a stone in the Green Bay, I mean GallBladder, head of the pancreas is without a helmet, there is a simple appearing screen er I mean cyst in the pole of the RT kidney….
Ha!
LOL
Thats a lot of Drs, you could be right.
Interesting statistical fact – do you know that when you are in the hospital, your odds of dying are inversely proportional to the number of physicians you see?
The more physicians you see the more likely you are to die.
Of course the reason is obvious, but I use that example when I am teaching statistics – an observed relationship is not evidence of causation.
Should have said proportional, not inversely proportional.
The same is true of the number of imaging studies performed as an inpatient, for the same reason.
Agreed.
I often tell people that they will live longer if they have more birthdays.
ergo More Birthday = a longer life.
Statistically speaking, if your parents did not have any children, you won’t either.
Adoption doesn’t count??
It’s an unfortunate aspect of our system that when you are at your sickest you must be thinking about getting authorization from insurance. My wife had an echocardiogram ordered recently and first thing I did was call the business office preauth person here at the hospital. Gave her the ICD-10 code and the CPT code (although she could look it up in the EMR), got a call back three minutes later “you’re good”. Just received the EOB, that sucker was $1600 and after the usual deductions “we have billed insurance for $679”.
An interesting aside (I am a long ago former Albertan, that is where my mom and sisters live), Alberta is thinking of pulling out of the Canada Pension Plan (kinda like Social Security) as they are getting bent over by carbon taxation related to the predominant business in the province ie oil and ag. Some people have reported a 10x increase in heating bills related to carbon tax. Now what CPP has to do with carbon taxation and how that will make things better for Albertans I don’t really understand but it is interesting watching the implementation of programs designed to curb carbon emissions and encourage usage of renewable resources.
This march to a Green New world is going to be incredibly expensive for the middle class.
Government seems focused on figuring new ways of forcing the woke agenda.
Virtue Signaling/kickbacks in full force.
It really is, and I don’t think people have any idea, or think that it will affect them.
Wound care
Monty Python auto rec.
Same.
A little football. Read we now lead the league in drops. Not surprising.
Also read, we gained 44 total yards in 20 first down attempts against the Bears.
That won’t cut it against Niners, or any other team for that matter.
Hope KOC has a plan.
“Hope KOC has a plan”
Not that any of his plans have helped so far this year.
Actually wasn’t bad against the Eagles.
‘His plan’ to limit turnovers fell pretty flat, again.
well that was certainly true but thought the limit turnovers started after this game
I stopped listening to KOCs press conferences.
After he replaced Zim he was refreshing to listen to.
Now he is a word salad of buzz phrases that don’t mean anything and does not relate to any actual events.
I read Mattison leads the league in drops with 5 in just 26 opportunities. That is horribad!
Some of the old timers might remember the series of articles Ted G used to write on the DN about the “Teddy Underground” It was a series of tongue in cheek articles pushing to make Teddy our starting QB.
We need something similar to advocate for Akers.
It was like the comment after the half last Sunday, Clarissa Thomas? said that KOC was pleased with the defensive effort and challenged his offense to come out and score a TD this first possession. What fire! What chutzpah! That lasted three plays…
You live in 3rd and long against the Niners and it’s going to be a long night.
Bringing up football.
And Kirk has his head out of his ass. Doubt both happen at the same time
LOL
Fore sure, Kirk really shouldn’t drop all those balls.
Well said HUN, I am for Kirk not dropping any passes on Monday night.
I second this, with extreme enthusiasm
Ah, so hes not at fault. Isnt a spaz/head case with happy feet when under pressure and turns into a one read statue behind a top 10 line. Right, right, none of thats a problem, carry on.
Delusions abound. If you think KOC is the only reason the offense struggles you are burying your head in the sand.
Naw, many reasons, we have a running back who can’t find the hole unless he puts fur around it, we have an overpaid tight end with a bad case of the dropsies, we have a right guard adept at both tackling our QB and poking the ball out of his hands…Lots and lots of reasons. Of course Kirk is the leader of the offense and deserves some blame.
So Mattison is a honeymoon RB
Can’t find the hole.
Zactly.
well stated. we have time to get our act together. Problem is this week is an especially tough test.
We had the ball 20 times in the Bears game?
Well, we did get some first downs, so not 20 possessions.
@Went on a religious doctors blog earlier all they were talking about was Kirk Cousins and how much he sucks. So I came back to Skoloholics.@
Yep, that’s the comment of the day by far.
LOL
Ha! Laughing out loud!!!
I was just going to post something about their being absolutely no Vikings talk and the Vikings blog today.
Might be better than the times that most the talk is spinning positives into negatives about the team.
I don’t disagree, I found todays discussions interesting and satisfying, even when MT or you disagree with me.
Some of it was beyond my capabilities, but it was very interesting to read – and quite thoughtful.
Agreed. Disagreements is how we learn. I have never been one to like echo chambers. I have changed my stance on so many things and will continue to do so when provided good reasoning.
LOL
LOL
‘I come home one day and the house is empty, and I mean completely empty. She even took the ice cube trays out of the freezer. What kind of a sick bitch takes the ICE CUBE trays out of the FREEZER?…’
Tom Arnold
’True Lies’
Well the freezer was still there so therefore not ‘completely empty’.
That was such a great line, also I can’t think of Tom Arnold without thinking of The Best Damn Sports Show Period, I really enjoyed it.
He’s an interesting dude. Was also a fan of TBDSSP
Just to clarify, I was joking early when I said something about going to hell.
not true. you never joke EVER.
i will pray for you
Maybe he was joking about joking.
he’s just trying to keep his admin job. i hear it pays well
I get a billion Stanley nickels a year
What’s that in Schrute bucks?
what is the ratio of stanley nickles to schrute bucks?
Thank you, I could use all the prayers I can get!
The bad news for Ben Dum Dum is joking about going to hell is a guaranteed ticket to go to hell. I believe its Mathew, Chapter 29.
Do you see where your little jokes get you….?
To hell?
God Damnit!
My wife put cherry tomatoes in my salad again…She knows I hate them.
She knows what’s good for you. Just eat em!
Good for your prostate, I think I read somewhere. She’s just looking out for you.
How do they get to your prostate?
Have you seen how they’re shaped? I think you know.
@my wife said married women don’t do that@
Thats funny stuff right there…funny, but true.
That is a description that is NSFW.
Not Safe For Work?
Don’t know what it is with Cherry Tomatoes and women.
The Teacher buys them and tries to add them to my food.
It never works but she never stops trying.
I can get my ‘fruit’ from other sources.
I love regular tomatoes, slice them up and put them in my salad for prostrate health.
These thing are icky.
Tomato sause is ok.
Corn/taters/carrots/onion are manly vegetables.
Greens are the food that my food eats.
The social worker does the same, and every time I tell her that cherry tomatoes suck, grape ones too.
We need a support group. Maybe a male advocacy group focused on stopping this madness.
I nominate the name, ‘Real Men Against Little Balls Of Yuck’ for the group.
Any 2nds?
Ha! I will second that!
That reminds me of those real men of genius commercials back in the day
Loved those commercials.
Not the beer just the commercials.
Thank you mister taco salad creator, you figured out how to cram 10,000 calories into a salad.
I found I can do that at a decent Salad Bar.
Lettuce is a garnish like plate to hold the rest of it.
I never say anything about them.
She is observant enough to put them on the side usually.
That way they won’t get thrown away and she can get more of them.
@Maybe they will help her prostate@
your wife is a social worker?
i guess a lot of things makes sense now as to how you ever got married. . she gets paid by the state to take care of you.
Freezey for the burn!!
Very close freezey, but it’s actually the fed that pays her to take care of me
How long you been married?
35 years in December.
She’s doing it on purpose… either because she thinks it’s funny or because she loves you and Tomatoes are good for you… probably both haha
LOL, OMG you’d think she’d know by now!
LOL
Yum! Seriously, so good.
Just eat them – you can’t even taste them!!
At least, that’s what my mom said about onions……..
Mine too. And she was full of shit.
I hate onions
Wait until your taste buds mature.
I’m 44….. ain’t happening.
oddly enough though….
I love Funyuns.
go figure.
I loved that line from mom, “You won’t even know its in there”,
Yeah, bull shit.
My son asked me not to cook with them.
I said I will either make them bigger so you can pick them out or smaller so you won’t notice them.
But you do not get to decide the ingredients for the whole family.
Dang Teenagers.
We told my daughter, who hates onions, that she was eating potato rings. She devoured them, and then she got mad when we told her they were onion rings.
Reminds me of when someone on here told a story about chocolate milk.
They ran out, his daughter asked him for some so he made some with cocoa powder and milk.
Daughter was disgusted to find out Chocolate Milk was made with milk and after that refused to drink it any more.
‘Kids make life entertaining’.
I like tomatoes. I do not like cherry tomatoes. I have to keep telling my wife that.
It seems like its a female thing.
I don’t like them either.
Everybody calm now?
Was someone not calm? Did you call someone a Pansie again?
*pansy
I’ll say this in regard to the religion conversation below….
All dogs go to heaven….
Skol!
We could do another very long discussion thread on that. My personal opinion is yes they do! Sorry, but cats do too, pet snakes I am not sure about.
Agreed.
Or……
If dogs don’t go to heaven, I want to go where they go.
Same.
See…these cartoons make me tear up.
I know of at least one that probably won’t, or at least shouldn’t. Killed a jogger, chewed her face off, and was put to death after that. Which is a good thing in my book. You think that doggie will go to “heaven” as well?
I don’t know. Haven’t heard the dog’s side of things….
…
I will not judge.
Yes Would take a page from Edge(below) and let someone way above my pay grade be the judge.
Behave yourselves. I gotta finish packing and then head for the hills this afternoon to chase the mighty wapiti.
enjoy!
Good luck and safe travels!
Good luck and keep your powder dry.
run to the hills…….run FOR YOUR LIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Iron Maiden auto rec
Have fun and shoot straight.
Next movie to watch?
I think Old Dads may be on the list this weekend. I like Bill Burr so it should be entertaining.
he certainly understands the Vikings….
I haven’t heard of this movie but love Bill Burr. What’s it on?
Faithstream.tv
HAHAHAHA!
Netflix
Burr lost me over COVID, he simped hard to the Left when he never left CA, and his wife basically took his edge off him, which, good for him, he’s a husband and a father now but it kind of ruined his comedy and made him political for me.
I still love him. His bit on seeing Meshuggah was amazing!
As long as they make me laugh, I care not about the funnyman’s politics.
Agreed 100% with this. I don’t have to agree to think what you are saying is clever or funny.
He’s still funny. But a lot of his content started getting political and had a pretty hard left slant after 2020. Iv watched his specials.
LOL, I can see the commercial perfectly like one of those old mesothelioma lawyer commercials. “Do you have a grievous and irremediable medical condition?” “Do you suffer from mental illness?” “Are you a drug addict?” “If so you qualify to be put to death by your own government, call today at 1-800-kill me.”
We are your government. We care for you. Take this pill and die you stupid piece of garbage.
Oh you suffer from PTSD from the war we sent you to and you have called us for help? Have you thought of killing yourself?
Oh my goodness….if you can’t fix ’em, kill ’em.
Over the years I’ve met dozens of sick, frail elderly who wish the US had a right-to-die program.
For those people who are still able to make the choice, I think they should have the right to do so.
Want to kill yourself and go to hell that’s your business, however the government should not be involved in killing you.
you don’t automatically go to hell if you kill yourself.
Debatable, churches with loose morals teach that you don’t.
well, i suppose if one doesn’t believe in preservation of the saints, it would be debatable.
whatever sinner
We got BenGodmin in the house.
PFFFFFFFTTTTTTTT!!!!!! Churches that are more about Jesus and the New Testament who understand the thing Jesus repeated more than anything that pisses God off is people who think they are god and judge others while being sinners themselves.
These “tight moral” churches spend more time worshipping themselves than God or Jesus. They spend more time saying they are right, patting themselves on the back, judging others and every other denomination is wrong…
Show me the passages that says you or any head of church has the right to cast judgement. Get so sick of this moral high ground, holier than thou. It’s part of what caused me to really dig into the religion and freed me so in that sense, thank you. lol
whatever, you’re going to hell lol
There’s no hell. There’s every likelihood of a hell as a Valhalla.
VALHALLA must be real!
It’s literally just as silly as Heaven and Hell. Not the band, they rule! lol. Whatever you were brought up in is THE TRUTH! Everything else is just so weird and crazy how could anyone believe it? lol
Yeah, I do not want to mock peoples beliefs, unless they believe Kirk is a great QB, then I know they are crazy.
I get mocky when people start getting high and mighty about how they are right and everyone else is wrong. If you believe and it works for you great. My issue is I will go to churches, and hear SOME of the beautiful lessons and words and beautiful churches… I’ll be respectful… but be respectful towards me and my belief that this is the one life we get so we better make the most of it.
Also you can see my stance on even if hell existed below.
I know, I’m kidding.
what’s your opinion on the Apostle Paul when he is encouraging the church in Rome by saying:
What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
is this Paul (the chief of all sinners, by his own words) JUDGING the church in Rome for continuing in sin?
@Come on Freezey, everyone knows that Paul is not Jesus, who cares what he says?@
Paul is a sinner. He is not infallible. He wrote passages that were pro slavery.
Try these passages and tell me it’s not clear that the only person allowed to pass judgement in Christianity is God.
Matthew 7:1-2 and Luke 6:37 are my favorite. Because it literally says you will be judged by the measure on which you judge others. So these people and congregations who go around high and mighty while sinners themselves are going to be judged much harsher… nice.
1 Samuel 16:7
Teaches that only God can judge because God sees into the heart of a person and since no other person can see into a person’s heart they have no right in judging.
Is helping/encouraging a person to turn away from a sinful behavior the same as ‘judging’ in your opinion?
If I say to my brother in Christ that he really should stop sleeping with his neighbors wife, is that O.K.? or would I be guilty of ‘judging’?
Again, no, but to say Hey bro, if you don’t stop you are going to hell IS casting judgement. To hold yourself above others (not saying you are but many do) for their sins is also an issue.
Again, agree 1000 percent.
You certainly know much much more than I do about religion. But a Question along your line of judgemental.
I believe we live in a society that is far to judgemental of others (not just religion). If someone wears a tie differently, then I judge him. If he feeds his kids too many Big Mac’s, I judge him. Could go on and on.
Not trying to minimize the religion aspect to this, but maybe the judges others thing is far broader – like accepting others and their short comings. Hope you get my point.
Very difficult subject.
Yeah, it’s just it’s very clear to condemn someone to hell… no one but god has that right. Then there’s a difference between being concerned over someone’s actions and saying hey man, I am worried what you are doing is something that could damn your immortal soul and I care about you… rather than finger waving and sitting on your high horse.
No, but to say “you are going to hell if you do XYZ” is casting judgment. It just is, that is black and white.
Agree with you 1000 percent on that.
But people do it ALL the time. And it was one of Jesus’s biggest points was since we are all sinners we should be working on ourselves not judging others. Helping one another is a good thing.
I have a question for you. Help me understand because I might just be jaded on this. I think what religions do to kids is despicable. So for me, luckily I caught it. I remember going to Sunday school and learning how Jesus and God love you and would always love you, and love, love, love, love… not much mention of hell AT FIRST. Then once you’re hooked and the rug gets pulled out from under you and it’s… DO RIGHT OR YOU’RE GOING TO BURN FOREVER KID!!!!!!!!!! I mean I’m being hyperbolic, I was brought up by very lovely people in the church and it wasn’t fire and brimstone but you get what I am saying. Just seems wrong, the bait and switch.
A fair question. I can only answer from my personal perception as one from the Evangelical side of the fence..
We believe you need to accept the free gift of grace that Jesus Christ purchased on our behalf. This free gift makes us right with God despite our on-going sinfulness. This gift was given to all humanity out of love.
Now, a child cannot understand this concept. But a child does understand love, which is a big part of the equation. So yes, first and foremost we teach our children that God is a loving God.
Later, they are introduced to the concept that they are indeed sinners and in need of God’s forgiveness through Christ.
But then why only tell the good part of the story up front? I agree they can’t understand the consequences side but to just leave that out and hook them with the nicety side… It’s not fair, it’s not right imo.
I appreciate your honest answer.
An interesting discussion for sure. One we could not have had on the DN.
And one it seems we have figured we can have and be decent to one another. Love it.
I agree with one exception.
Committing the abominable sin.
Who has the right to judge. Who? Can’t we all agree it’s pretty clear the only person is god? If we can’t agree on that, then I don’t know what book you’re reading.
From there…
Are you God?
If the answer is no… then you have no right to judge.
@ Can we judge you for wearing a Packer’s jersey to a Vikings game? @
🙂
P.S. You make a lot of good points.
HA! You absolutely can… I would!
I am.
Do you know what the abominable sin is?
I do. At the end of the day… you still are not god. You can tell someone you think what they are doing is wrong and you are worried it will damn them. But to pass judgement is playing god. But I see where you are coming from.
Eating cute reindeer?
Funny
Bumbles BOUNCE
Having sex with your mother?
I think its something about dissing the Holy Spirit.
“sinful” behaviors… Christian’s act like they have a moral code they perfected. Murder being wrong adultery being wrong etc… all existed WAY before Christianity.
Do you think “real Christians” do this?
Not all but MANY I have known. have to be careful with the word real. Because to say one side is real means the other side is fake lol. They are real, just misguided and raised in a way that is defensive of their beliefs. My wife was raised LCMS Lutheran and sorry if someone here is that but they literally preach against ELCA Lutheran’s and how wrong they are and they don’t even recognize them as being actual Christian’s or a real denomination. That to me is INCREDIBLE. To think Jesus would have wasted his time doing any of that shit.
Was just thinking of a conversation I recall with Mother Teresa. No mater the question, she answered with such grace and showed incredible tolerance for the shortcomings of others. At least for me, I thought that’s the way a Christian should act.
And I believe, to your point, there was zero judgement in any of her remarks.
Best to stay away from one denomination is better than another.
She knew how to present herself that’s for sure. Give this a watch. Not saying it’s written in stone gospel, but it does cast some light on how she really operated.
But we are only dead to sin because Christ was killed for it. Not because of our own actions.
And that doesn’t mean we don’t sin anymore.
Hopefully, it helps us sin less, but by no means are we better than anybody else.
I sin all of the time.
yes, we have all sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.
i hope i didn’t come off saying we/i don’t sin…
i sin ALL the time.
I just think Paul’s scripture about “not sinning” anymore is taken out of context by churches.
It’s not the Paul is saying he doesn’t sin. He is saying that since he lives in Christ, his sin is no longer counted against him and is therefore dead to sin.
Many churches say “stop sinning” or else.
I really hope youre being sarcastic.
What’s sarcasm?
Difficult to discuss government sanctioned death without talking religion.
let’s talk religion! (i’m willing to get reprimanded or banned talking religion)
In my non-skol life I have few interest other than religion. Hunting fishing also.
what do you enjoy fishing for?
are there any good fishing lakes out there?
The pressure on trout rivers is insane with outfitters, I enjoy flyfishing but not with 100 other floaters. Grew up fishing ‘eyes bought a lund about 6 yrs ago and fish Canyon Ferry, Tiber res. and Fort Peck. Good water, finicky though.
Curious.
What/where is a scriptural reference about suicide and heaven or hell?
i believe one can not lose their salvation, so while i’m at work, without my bible, i can’t point to a specific scripture about it, which there very well might not be (suicide/heaven/hell), but in terms of a believer committing suicide (would be rare imo) if they are a true believer, they would still go to heaven because one can not lose their salvation
Yes.
Maybe you can’t lose it, but you can walk away from it.
you can walk away from it absolutely, but if you are a true believer, the holy spirit will work on you and eventually SHOULD be drawn back to the Lord.
A little bit off the road here.
So if someone was saved, and then commits murder, they still go to heaven because they can’t lost their salvation?
a true believer, one who is saved, yes….
i think they would, at some point, realize the absolute wrong they have done, probably by the holy spirit, and repent, but sin is sin
Thou shalt not murder would be referenced by some.
Here is one take on it.
The Bible views suicide as equal to murder, which is what it is—self-murder. God is the only one who is to decide when and how a person should die. We should say with the psalmist, “My times are in your hands” (Psalm 31:15).
God is the giver of life. He gives, and He takes away (Job 1:21). Suicide, the taking of one’s own life, is ungodly because it rejects God’s gift of life. No man or woman should presume to take God’s authority upon themselves to end his or her own life.
If you are of the Christian faith, casting judgement can only be done by gawd. You doing it is blasphemous to think you are gawd and have that right to do gawd’s job. Also let us not forget the word used in the Bible where we reference that hell is some firery pit is the word Gehenna. What is Gehenna? A place for the cast out, the homeless etc… outside of Jerusalem. It was a crappy place with people burning whatever they could to stay warm or cook food etc… not a nice place. It was a place that was absent of gawd. That’s the point, the absence of gawd. The whole burning pit shit is more Daunte’s Inferno derived than biblically derived. If Hitler gets to go the heaven, and I go to hell because I refuse to worship a jealous, egotistical, tyrant that refuses to show themselves… I’d rather be where they aren’t.
Is it suicide if as my facilities fade I go into the mountains and wrestle a grizzly bear? I mean, the odds are I’m not coming out of that one, but there is a chance that I become the badass old man who KO’d a grizzly bear.
Five would beat a griz
were you around for Five??
Right at the end on DN
He called me a moron for taking 20 months to build my house while working full time and having baby 5 and 6
sounds like him.
Five would slapped it up over a weekend between workouts.
Or just lived in a rental forever.
Odd name for a pud….
would it be wrong if i paid to watch you fight a grizzly?
i wouldn’t help, as i would need to let nature run it’s course, of course.
Bowid and Goliath?
I’d rather fight a grizzly bear than kill myself of slowly die miserable.
Exactly this.
I’m a quality of life guy. Toss hideous shit like ALS, dementia, ALZ, Parkinsons. Shit creeps me out.
Neurologic disorders are the worst, a lot of suffering.
When it gets to the point that someone is spoonfeeding you because you can’t lift a hand to your face, but your mind in intact and you remember how you USED to be……
We have several residents with MS and Parkinson’s and it’s painful to watch them gradually lose function.
Tend to agree with that.
I mean, I have a “do not revive”, request in my will.
If I’m a vegetable, nobody is feeding me threw a tube.
A little different than a dementia patient/ALS/MS….etc….
Watching my father deteriorate rapidly with dementia. Physically he could live another 10+ years.
Pretty sure if he knew this was coming he would have taken a pill to end it.
Same here. My father is in rough shape, physically, but his mind is sharp. He can’t stand living like this.
Yeah, my dad is the opposite. No longer knows who I am, can still walk around, but has no clue where to go.
He knows he misses, in this order
Can he not have steak?
Sure he can,
But 10 minutes later he forgot he had steak.
He may not be hungry, but he does not remember that he just ate.
Oh man, that would suck!
Yes! We also could put the useless corpses to good use… process them somehow… call it Soylent Green maybe? Or use them as fertilizer? Endless possibilities…
Cemeteries are full of fertilizer. KnowhatImean?
I think cemeteries are the greatest waste of prime real estate invented by man.
Some would say golf courses are.
Ever see Korean burial mounds?
People are buried standing up in a coffin, facing south or towards a visible spiritual landmark.
OK, that didn’t quite work………
SHEESH!
LOL
Oh my.
Sure. Do you grow your food in a cemetery?
Well…….actually sort of. As a kid, mom and dad would send me on my bike to the small cemetery plot to pick asparagus. Birds transplanted the seeds around the border of it.
Kinda gives me the heebie jeebies now that I think about it.
You was eating dead people.
Cool story, actually.
Besides, how long do you think it will take to get to government ordered euthanasia of those they deem unfit to live, “for the good of the majority”?
I get it, it’s presented as an option and a “right” for people who are terminally ill/depressed/addicted/whatever, but do you really believe the government, any government, will stop there? I don’t.
People who want to end their miserable lives should nut up and do so, but the government must not be allowed to provide that “service”.
Yes, agree. Its not a leap from “we will help you end your life” to “you really should end your life” to “you have to end your life”
BS
Nope.
Yep, just like abortion. Quickly went from we will provide safe medical abortion to you really should have abortion to you must have abortion.
Good grief. You guys eat your wheaties today?
Actually the Medical community does “encourage” abortion in a number of questionable circumstances.
“According to this test there is a 40 percent chance your baby has down syndrome, you might want to think about an abortion”
Interesting point. A close friend and study buddy from residency has a Down’s child. They were low risk and the only finding on prenatal exams was a solitary intracardiac echogenic focus on ultrasound, which was dismissed as of no clinical significance.
Their boy is a great kid, obviously medical advances have greatly expanded his life span and options in life.
My friend and his wife are deeply religious.
So when I had a friend come to me with questions about the solitary IEF I described in my report, I called my old friend up. It was an interesting conversation. He said my advice is she should do all available testing (including amniocentesis or chorionic villus sampling)…it is better to have as much knowledge as possible rather than have it sprung on you as a surprise at birth. Really surprised me.
Interesting and surprising…
I know a few parents with Downs kids, some knew what was coming some did not, but they all love their kids – seems like a difficult life to me.
We had that conversation when my wife was pregnant. The doc said some marker was positive that could indicate Down’s, I think it was like 20ish percent. Thankfully, he did not.
Not there yet, agreed. Buy how easy is it to get an abortion? A former co-worker had 5, because she didn’t like to use a condom. Is that a good thing?
Government assisted suicide can very well turn into government ordered euthanasia, no matter if you can see the problem or not.
The Canadian government has already been caught encouraging veterans with ptsd to commit suicide. That wasn’t a random bs comment I made earlier. They have recorded them.
See, this is where the conversations go off the rails for me. Can any of you vote in Canada? Did any of you do military service in Canada? No you did not. I can’t vote and I’m a Canadian citizen. It was not the FUCKING GOVERNMENT that encouraged a veteran singular to consider MAID, it was some dumbass counselor that is probably sucking on the unemployment tit as we speak. The Canadian government JFC. That’s like saying a nurse told a patient to refuse an antibiotic for a UTI because “you’re just going to die” see there’s the government death squads at it again.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-veterans-affairs-maid-counselling-1.6560136
i love it when MT gets sweary
This just in King Charles has proclaimed that all able bodied men considering enlisting in the Canadian military just tie a cinder block to their ankle and step off a pier. Think of the massive savings in military benefits. Why my mom is still collecting a 65% pension for my dad’s 32 years of service what a suck on society that darn government wants her to tie a bag over her head.
speaking of bags over heads….
why didn’t most parents warn me that kids just love to put bags of their heads? plastic, paper, etc… doesn’t matter, just up and over their heads
For some reason I can vividly remember sticking a metal pocket clip thingy from a pen into an electrical socket. I must have been 5. Or maybe 15. Who knows?
our first 2 kids had zero issue sticking random objects into their mouth that they found……but our 3rd? holy smokes…EVERTYHING he found went into his mouth
Just so I understand…
It WASN’T a government paid counselor who was encouraging MAID??
I thought all counselors in Canada were paid the government.
It’s O.K. if you get sweary, it helps you release stress.
Rube the Obscure…
The vast majority of the HCW’s in Canada are paid by the government. For that matter ALL of the military is paid by the government. Does that mean the government is responsible for Russell Williams’ actions? How about the extremely inappropriate and tawdry things my father and his ilk (military was all male in those days) said about the female civvies working in the offices, not just in private but to their faces?
Yeah, that’s not THE government.
So for it to be considered an action of the government there would have to be an official memo or policy stating that veterans should be counseled into suicide?
I mean I understand what you are saying, and I understand this appears to have been a lone wolf, but there are all kinds of ways the Government pushes policies on people through its employees without any official document trail.
Yes, I would agree with your interpretation that this was not the action of the government…but see how easily it could become a government action?
Hey, I’m glad it was brought to attention, but they haven’t found any memo. Perhaps the counselor “meant well” by mentioning it, but at least now they have officially stated there should be no MAID discussion period with veterans with PTSD.
Well, physician assisted suicide is legal in some circumstances in Austria. Are they rounding up the ill and shipping them to camps for extermination, again?
Give it a minute.
It indeed is, under very strict regulation. But where did I say that I approve of this practice in Austria, MT?
Never said you did. You did make the statement implying that very quickly the government would exterminate those unfit to live, the undesirables, etc…I’m saying that hasn’t happened in Austria despite an option for physician assisted suicide, so I don’t think we’re quite back in the age of the Reichstag speech.
Give it a minute…
I’m with you, Hun. We can all understand the terminally ill in pain, however it is definitely a slippery slope. I saw in Canada a 20 year old boy was assisted in suicide because he was depressed. A minor child was also assisted because she had a disability. I don’t care whether the government officially said, all disabled children should be encouraged to commit suicide. The fact that it happens in situations like this demonstrates that life isn’t valued like it used to be.
Very true…
One of the best quotes ever.
Great quote but also, Regan was out of his mind and was a puppet President as well, there were a lot of strings being pulled behind the curtains during his presidency but, I think that can be said for most of them.
Pretty sure every President the last 150+ years has either been a puppet or killed.
Wrong.
The last year I might agree.
But there was no puppet when he said, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall”. And then the wall, came down a few years later.
My guess is you weren’t even born yet or you were a little kid in 1987.
yes.
He may have slipped some the last year or so, but he was far more transformational than puppet like.
I remember it. I was 9 at the time but I remember. Also remember the wall coming down….
Me too.
Of course, I was standing on top of it that night, pulling East Berliners over it to freedom.
Wow.
Holy cow! That is awesome.
Always gotta ‘one up’ me…. Lol.
very cool
Nah, just an opportunity to tell a cool story.
We heard that something was going to happen that night, stopped at the shoppette and bought beer, champagne. Headed to Brandenburg Gate (Hallesches Tor
Tom Brokaw was there with his news crew, he was going over notecards before his broadcast. We all started yelling “TOM, TOM, American military here!!” Tom peeked up at us, turned his back and kept looking at his cards.
We all looked at each other, saying “Wow. Tom Brokaw is a dick.”
Then a door on the news shack opened up, Bryant Gumbell stepped out and said “Americans, WHERE?” Came over and talked to us for about 10 minutes asking what we thought about the situation, how we heard about it (couldn’t tell him the truth….)
The East Germans were actually letting Berliners cross at Checkpoint Charlie. At Brandenburg there was a heavy police/military presence keeping the East Berliners away from the wall. Then word must have been spread that people were crossing at Charlie, and they broke through the police/military, we climbed up on the wall and started pulling them up and over.
Hey I can say banana in Deutsche.
Achievement unlocked
Such a cool story. That’s awesome.
Pretty cool!
Great job Ben Dum Dum, you managed to post something that covered both Politics and Religion…and you call yourself an Admin???
frankly, i applaud him….
nana boo boo to the DN hahaha
Me too.
I meant it more as a cancer/sleazy lawyer joke
Well this thread devolved in a predictable fashion, but I’ll say three things:
Treated over 150 pts with suboxone, opioid use disorder, heard all the horror stories. I think “my” long term “success” rate was about 10%. Often I found myself thinking that drug dealers should get capitol punishment. Not sure I believe that, but thought crossed my mind.
It will be interesting to me to watch how long it takes for Canada to move from “allowing assisted suicide” to encouraging it. Perhaps they already have.
Mrs. Jones this bone cancer is going to get really painful near the end, how about we just give you this pill and you won’t have to experience it (and as a bonus we will end up saving our government run health care system some money).
Logan’s Run
That was an interesting movie for a young boy to watch. That society had incredibly low health care costs.
Jenny Agutter was easy on this young boy’s eyes.
It also had Farah Faucett..plenty of eye candy.
I liked the part where you could just teleport people into your room for sex…I thought that was a great societal advancement.
The health care systems is another debate. FTMP Canadians really like their health care system, and a lot of Americans complain about theirs…but I see the gap between medical practice here in the US and medical practice in Canada as a gap that could not possibly be bridged.
“Oh, you slipped on the ice and twisted your knee? Take some aspirin and follow up in a month, if it’s still hurting we’ll take an x-ray.” MRI? hahahahahaha six month wait if we deem it necessary, then another six months to see an orthopedic surgeon if you have ligamentous damage.
Yes, I am aware of the treatment gap. I do believe the US will move to a Canadian style system in the not too distant future.
I tell my liberal friends be careful what you ask for, universal government health care sounds great but it comes with some real limitations you will not like.
I honestly do not see it. It took 25 YEARS of lobbying and the community raising the funds themselves to purchase a CT scanner in Wainwright, Alberta, population 6200. The next closest CT scanner is 60 miles away. By that metric, vast swaths of Montana and North Dakota would not have cross sectional imaging. Think of the lawsuits and news reports of Granny Smith waiting six months to find out she had cancer, etc…
Any time you allow a MASSIVE bureaucracy to run something, expect long waits and if something goes wrong, there will be no one that can make a decision. And once a “decision” is made, expect that it will be run roughshod over anyone that has an exception. Expect no compassion or understanding, just sterile rules.
^^This^^
Yes, and then we need to determine how to limit costs. I remember I think obama’s health advisor or maybe it was Clintons, saying once you hit 70 you really should not have cancer treatments, you have lived your life and it isn’t going to add that much and its costly for society.
This is not the philosophy I want in control of health care.
Its probably time Al Michaels retired…
That confused me also. He obviously got in the end zone. He is 78 years old. It might be time to hang it up.
Or run for President……
that made be chuckle….well done.
Good point. How did I miss that? Maybe I should run for president.
But, who would mine the salt?
I would pay China to do it.
Shit, I got about 30 years before I can run based on the age of the last two
Yeah his give a shit broke over the COVID years you can tell he’s phoning it in.
LOL, the bird people pic up top, I remember those fruitcake brained weirdos throwing a fit about the stadium, probably still are.
Our team might be stuck in mediocrity, but our stadium ROCKS!
Absolutely! It is regarded pretty consistently as one of the top 5 stadiums in the NFL.
I love the picture up top. I remember the discussions of where he must have gotten each of those fantastic side kicks.
Heard on the radio this morning that the over under for the Gophers/Iowa game is 30.5…
The lowest over under ever in FBS football.
An apology for yesterday. Rules are marked clearly at top – no politics. So, late yesterday went on a bit of a political tear. Should not have done that.
Apologize to ownership, Admins and anyone else that found my posts over the top.
Sorry!
JRob, I am guilty of exploring the very edges of acceptability on that front. It so hard not to. As thinking people (while most of us anyway) engaged in the world around us we naturally want to comment on important issues affecting our country.
Ownership bahahah
It would not have been an issue if people could have kept it civil in the past, but divisive topics touch nerves. I think yesterday’s conversation was an example of how it can be discussed without resorting to childish tactics.
Yes, this. If it deteriorates into personal insults and the like, which it didn’t yesterday, then just delete that comment thread. We’re allowed to post current news, which unfortunately in these times involves what to do about the intentional destruction of America from within.
Discussion Topic:
I will be moving in to my new house all weekend.
Have fun Jackson!
What a beta couch that is anyway, Ross was such a pansy.
Come on VP! Queue the Pansy giph…
Well, that will work.
I have a few minutes to spare right now. But I’ve got a dentist appointment this afternoon, so I’ve got to get going counting salt grains here pretty quick.
You have to get after it…That salt isn’t going to mine itself!
I am by myself today in an office built for 12.
I’m at home working on my bookstore today. It is very quiet here. I love it.
Or if you are in to Harry Potter.
Love me some Harry Potter
I have no clue about Harry Potter, but when I googled pansy, Pansy Parkinson showed up. I figured I should be an equal opportunity gif giver.
YOU NEVER WATCHED HARRY POTTER!!??
I watched the first one maybe a year ago. It did not inspire me to watch the rest of them.
We made my son, who was fairly young at the time, read each book before we went to the movie…It was a great way to encourage him to read.
And now he is a veracious reader.
As a book store owner I thought you would appreciate that.
That’s some good parenting right there.
I always hear people say, “the book is so much better than the movie”, but they’re all just full of shit, movies are way better and everyone knows it.
What if it’s in another language so you have to read the subtitles the whole movie?
Still better, several of my favorite movies all time require subtitles.
Depends on the book and the movie.
Yeah. One recentish example in my opinion is Lone Survivor. It wasn’t a bad movie if you hadn’t read the book. If you read the book, the character Marky Mark plays is a pansy compared to the real guy.
My example for this is the Stephen King movies from the 70s and 80s. Many of them were tv level quality (really bad). The books are much better.
If I see the movie first, I like the movie. But, if I read his book first, then watch the movie, the movie sucks. Best example of this is The Dark Tower.
Dark Tower is a very good book
What did you think of the final novel?
While I think the LOTR movies were good, there is no way they compare to the books.
In fact, I have not seen one movie that I think is better than the book it is based on(in cases where I have read the book, obv)..
That said, watching a movie for a few hours is certainly easier than reading.
Agree, those books were awesome. The movies were very good, but not as good as the books.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong and stupid.@
See what I did there? I was being half sarcastic.
ben on a tear today haha.
You haven’t read the books?
I have, they are excellent. Funnily enough I kept them thinking I would read them to my grandkids when they came of age but by the time I thought they were old enough to explore such themes they were all “I’ve already seen the movie”. Sigh.
you bought a house in this economic climate? RICHIE RICH!!!!
No, he’s moving back into mom’s basement.
Where all true keyboard warriors live.
Had no choice, sold our business which we lived above.
UGH! Moving stinks.
This will be the first house we bought that I don’t have a list of to-do projects to make it nice.
Congratulations!
Moving sucks, good luck.
GM
FTP
SKOL
TGIF
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!