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I’m sitting here watching the Chiefs-Eagles. The Chiefs defense is absolutely smothering the Eagles offense. It’s midway through the third quarter, and the Eagles have only scored 7. It’s too bad the Vikings didn’t pull that one out on Sunday, the NFC front-runners are all showing signs of weakness. Hopefully KOC and the gang can figure out a way to put together a complete game offensively with Dobbs.
Minnesota Vikings Discussion Topic of the Day
Dobbs is holding down the fort at the moment, but Jaren Hall also looked pretty good in the small amount of playing time he’s gotten. Choosing from Hobbs, Hall, and Mullens, which QB do you feel is the best option to be the Vikings QB for the remainder of 2023?
Minnesota Vikings News:
SI.com has Vikings snap counts versus the Broncos.
Vikings.com has a Vikings @ Broncos week 11 rehash, and Kevin O’Connell offers updates on Justin Jefferson, Ty Chandler’s role, and Joshua Dobbs.
The Broncos’ Kareem Jackson was banned (again) for (another) dirty hit, this one on Josh Dobbs on Sunday, per ESPN.
The Chargers’ Joey Bosa is likely headed to the IR with an ankle sprain, according to NFL.com. Ouch. That team was already struggling, this won’t help any.
The Jets have demoted Zach Wilson to QB3 and gave the starting job to Tim Boyle, while Trevor Siemian will be Boyle’s backup, according to ESPN. Wow, not even gonna let him be the backup, ouch. Wilson was the second overall pick in 2021, and has now been benched three times in the last 13 months.
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Wouldn’t mind seeing some Hall. We need a plan going forward. QB is huge.
Dobbs is likely the guy going forward barring injury and/or abysmal QB play. I’d like to see Hall too.
“I see him every day in practice”
The coaches pretty much know by now what they have with all the QB’s. There has been a push in the NFL for the last 10 years for “mobile” QB’s. A guy who can do all the QB stuff, but also add an element to your offense with his running ability.
Clearly KOC sees Dobbs as more than a scrambler. The play with Hock under center handing off to him illustrated that to all. He sees Dobbs as QB/RB hybrid.
I don’t know if KOC wants a hybrid QB going forward or not, but NFL teams are moving in that direction.
Not sure what to think going forward. We are not SB contenders. Like to see some of Hall. Want more of Chandler and less of Mattison. Not sure what i think of KOC anymore.
I am not giving up on the Owl dream yet….simply because we haven’t been beaten badly by the “elite” teams….means we can play with anyone.
But if I see more games like that out of Dobbs I will start to agree with you.
QB situation aside, we are far better team this year than last. Even with our defense still learning we hung with the Eagles, had a shot at Chiefs, and beat the 49ers. Those are three of the best in the league.
none of these are working.
GET BETTER AT POSTING THINGS, BOW
Work just fine for me. Get better with computers Freezey.
Well crap, now it won’t play. It shows up but doesn’t play. Gotta be a website issue. Here’s a link. It’s an FBI informant inside a MAGA group.
https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1726968548487274588?s=20
BOOM in your face.
also that’s hilarious
They’re imbedding but not playing. Not doing anything different than usual. Maybe they are working on the site or something. Who knows. Could also be the government blocking anything anti their agenda. I expect FBI agents at my door any minute.
Did you see Enemy of the State? Don’t say Biden and anything suggesting ill will in the same sentence.
I don’t have any ill will for him. I feel sorry for him. Dementia patients belong in nursing homes, not the White House.
Good answer – you’re safe. Be careful using words like “stupid” though.
I will save that for people here. I’m still not convinced Lifer wasn’t an FBI plant. He’s probably finishing up his search warrant affidavits and that’s why he isn’t around anymore.
Two point . One Lifer had far too much money for an FBI agent -$1500 drivers and a BMW.
and second. he’s smarter than those guys too.
Could be a DOJ lawyer though sniffing around.
Could be an older used BMW and law enforcement gets discounts on lots of sporting goods stuff. Like 50% off on a lot of it.
DOJ lawyer does make sense though. He never slipped up and used law enforcement terms or slang.
well, I used to help him with his golf game, so maybe he’ll take it easier on me.
I’m probably screwed. Lifer would be too obvious. The FBI plant is more likely to be somebody we don’t suspect. I’m guessing Hun or Mjolnir.
Don’t worry about it. Donate a few bucks to the DNC and BLM and you’re as good as gold. Untouchable!
mattisons fumble caused it
can you make a gif of steve carrell’s “loud noises” anchorman bit to be yelling MATTISONNNNNNN please and thank you
Doesn’t work again.
Let’s try another one that won’t work.
https://x.com/HuskersX/status/1726748230380081221?s=20
sir this is the Internet, nobody can see your face
Zoom…?
Hahaha! Love they scene!
Sir, this is a Wendys
Yeah that too
Not going to leave the site when Kirk leaves the team, as you suggested yesterday. Still can’t see your face though, kiddo.
Was kind of a strange thought yesterday. Thought GF was trying to actually get more posters, not hoping to drive them away.
Some peoples ‘logic’ is not really logical.
I kinda had the same impression.
So thats why you bought that $3000 FLIR
Nice 60s Monkeys Hair.
The band not the animal.
Oh and gif doesn’t work for me, playing or ‘watch on X’.
Doesn’t work for me either.. Is that the guy that got elected somewhere in South American and was campaigning with a chainsaw.
Yeah, Argentina. Hates woke socialists and plans on dismantling most of their “agencies”
I still don’t understand how some of you can enjoy pie made from cans of urine. You’re just a bunch of weirdos.
Not even sure I want to know which pie you equate to ‘made from cans of urine’.
On 2nd thought, I am pretty sure I don’t want to know.
Pee Can, duh.
Thanks for explaining it…I was slow.
Yeah, it wasn’t my best but it got quiet around here and I am trying really hard to not be productive.
Ha! You are trying not to do the stuff you really should be doing but really don’t want to do but you will do when you really have to do it but you likely will do a have assed job on it since now you don’t have enough time to do a good job on it.
I know the cycle well.
I never do a half assed job. I work better under pressure. It will just end up in overtime.
Well if he did a good job the Bosses will want him to do it all the time.
If he does a crappy job then the Bosses will give it to someone else next time.
Duh.
Problem is there’s nobody else to give most of it to. Just gotta find the right level of good enough but not so good that expectations get raised too high.
That can be tricky.
Supervisors can pretend to have ‘high expectations’ when they want to hoist an unpopular job off on someone.
They think it will motivate the poor sap.
Very Punny.
There’s actually two kinds – pe-con and pe-can as it’s called down South.
Where do you even equate Pecan to can’s of urine? It’s basically caramel…
Because that’s how you say it, PeeCan.
I get it now… Also I don’t care if it’s called smelly crap pie… Still tastes good
Summary:
Hun first
DE thinks excuses are good for geese and we should own our sacks
Benjammin has footage of Wrenage and his wife arguing
Jackvike noticed Kfey is a dobbistan
Bow reports Zach Wilson’s jelly is malfunctioning
Jrob suggests the Vikings get Zach Wilson
DE posts footage of Wrenage’s wife dressing him in the kitchen
Surly is concerned Dobbs ingested a monster
Nodak says Dobbs is a pants shitter
DE wonders if Kirk keeps diapers on his empty SB trophy shelf, also reports Kirk has a grilling show on Food Network
Eggslusher reports people say Dobbs is hurling dead birds
Bow suggestion for the Vikings QB plan is to cripple Kirk, not draft a rookie QB, and sign Fields
Surly suggests a loose Kirk will make the QB room much less boring
NoDak is not overly confident in assaulting Bears
Mjolnir reports Dan Campbell has problems getting his bets in at the right time
The trade deadline is either concentrated weed resin, or a bowl of potatoes, meat and fried onions according to Socal
Freezey’s friend thinks the FTP QB is legitimately in love
Freezey suggests Ty Chandler walk like a crustacean
Bow thinks Freezey should question everything Bow says
VP reports someone named Lucifer created the first Pumpkin Pie
Socal thinks Melania is indigent
Freezey says his in laws are living a lie
Long thanksgiving dessert discussion, consensus is pumpkin pie and cranberries suck
The Vikings are unlucky and inept according to Freezey
Bow is intrigued by people doing satanic zygotes
Surly and Floridaskol stay up late on Sunday nights
Vikings games are MTs time to enjoy Dylan Mulvany, which leaves him too keyed up to fall asleep by 10pm in God’s Devine Valley
You and bow with your satanic zygotes
Did I type that the trade deadline was Hash instead of Harsh? I didn’t even notice, no wonder no one replied.
Lol yeah
I’m thinking they won’t activate JJ before the bye. Can beat Chicago without him and would give him an additional 2 weeks to recover/ramp up and be good to go for the playoff stretch.
I thought that if we had beaten the Broncos. Now, not so sure.
Making fantasy decisions a little tough, especially with them playing MNF.
If hes actually ready to go, they should start him this week so we see what we got and can use the bye week to modify the offense for Dobbs/Hall with JJ. Adding wrinkles
Isn’t there some sort of deadline after coming off IR?
Has to be activated within 21 days or he stays on IR for the rest of the year.
OK, so they can “activate” him, and keep him inactive until he feels like playing?
I believe so. He would just be using a roster spot at that point.
This article pretty much sums it up.
After Vikings Week 11 Loss, Journeyman Quarterback’s Ceiling Comes into View (msn.com)
I hate prime time games. I don’t know how those of you in the less exalted time zones can stomach those late starts. First off I’m not drinking a beer two hours before bed time and a football game is like my time to enjoy a cool glass of Dylan Mulvaney and secondly if the Vikings win or lose I’m too keyed up to fall asleep by 10 pm in God’s Divine Valley (GDV) time.
I am with you on the Prime time. I was so wound up after watching the team fail Sunday night, it was after midnight when I finally got to sleep.
Same here.
see you tomorrow night?
Even worse on east coast time.
I am indifferent to the time the game is played. I’ll be watching regardless. Fortunately I don’t have a traditional 9-5 gig so I can sleep a tad later should a primetime game run late, but that’s a rarity as well. I like my mornings.
6-5. I’m kind of the mindset to split snaps with Hall and Dobbs. We own #19 pick as of now, doubt we use on a qb but never know.
Not gonna happen. They will extend Kirk and the QB room next year will be Kirk/Hall/Mullens.
Then will they see what they have in Hall or ride it out with Dobbs?
Ride it out with Dobbs unless he totally implodes or gets hurt.
Fair chance one of those happens
Maybe I should pick up Dobbs in our fantasy league.
Why I oughta…
If you would have played this year, you could have drafted Kirk and kept me from drafting him and he wouldn’t have gotten injured.
Nah I bet you took Kirk with your first round pick.
Nope and I gave everybody fair warning that I was going to draft him.
Never mind. Mick already has him. So much for that idea.
Nah we’ll be whispering Mahomes by year’s end.
Well one of Kirk’s big selling points is he is never hurt… so I guess if the price is right but I think KOC likes having a mobile QB.
We can only hope
Fuck that time line, stop speaking it
Deep down you know it to be true.
Yes, and .500 at best we will be again
Bears have #1 as of now, i’d want to tank if so. Wonder how you do that so it’s not obvious.
Simple, just let the Panthers do it for you.
Solid point, didn’t think of that.
Play younger/unproven scrubs so ‘you can see what you have in them’.
Pecan Pie.
That is all.
🔨🔨🔨🔨
Are we ranking what we throw in the trash first?
If so then Jello with vegetables in it goes first.
Solid choice. Cranberry goo is going with it.
Cranberry good can be decent on a post thanksgiving turkey samich.
The Army taught me not to have ‘sophisticated taste buds’.
I am know as the ‘King of Leftovers’.
And proud of it, way cheaper as well.
If you don’t cook nasty food, you don’t have to eat nasty left overs.
Agreed, I only cook things that I like but I am not the only one who cooks here.
And when we host T-day lots of people bring stuff that gets left behind.
Now is dropping some truth bombs.
That is supposed to be Bow. Stupid autocorrect
You don’t like Pecan pie?
If you don’t like pecan pie… you’re an ID 10 T
That sounds like something a communist would say. Americans eat apple pie, turkey, ham and mashed potatoes and gravy. Nothing else needed.
How would you know what a communist would say? You must be… A COMMIE BASTARD! BTW, my wife and I are hosting Thanksgiving… I’m smoking a brisket haha.
They say lots of things before you throw them out of your helicopter. Brisket sounds good. I did forget about deviled eggs too. Gotta have those. Especially if they are sriracha style.
Have you seen people doing the deep fried deviled eggs… holy shit.
No, but I am intrigued.
Lots of different ones out there. Basically just the egg white part is breaded and quick fried to add a crunch.
Yup!
Pumpkin Pie is a must for Thanksgiving.
Homemade pecan pie is amazing.
Vikings are unluckiest team in the NFL, guess who is the luckiest?
https://twitter.com/AddisonEra2/status/1726998387441168823?s=20
Shocked!!
Shocked I Say!!
And that is even without Karen.
this is really interesting.
i would love to see like each teams that are in the lucky side of things, like their top 3 or 4 luckiest plays and then the teams in the bottom half, their top 3 or 4 unluckiest…
i know the vikings unluckiest….a sure interception that bounces off their helmet and directly into opposition hands for a td….
Is that unlucky or just ineptitude?
yes
Shows just how bad the Giants are.
Agreed though, never get a lucky bounce (e.g., the Pace forced fumble out of bounds).
Funny
Is that Hotdish??
Vikings are rated with Hotdish??
Looks like rolls and stuffing.
Ok, stuffing is better.
You got a problem with hotdish in general or just as a thanksgiving food?
Yes.
My ex was a Hotdish expert so I have PTSD.
I think its stuffing, but hotdish is more fitting
Looks like cornbread dressing. Good stuff!
Pumpkin pie? No, Pecan pie is elite. And good green bean casseroles are great!
Apple or French Silk pie. Agreed on green bean casserole. Yams, cranberries and sweet potatoes should go straight in the trash can and whoever brought them banished to the back yard.
chocolate peanut butter pie >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else
You misspelled Peach Pie/Cobbler.
I can get on board with peach. Peanut butter anything can join the cranberries.
wow, you are so incorrect sir
Whatever sloppy pepper eater. Don’t you have a battery to change or something?
I’m not a big pie fan, especially fruit pies, pumpkin pie sucks and can join the yams and stuff in the trash. Also cake, specifically frosting sucks and can go in the trash too.
I don’t eat much for sweets, but if I had to pick one dessert I’d probably go with a caramel apple pie or more likely caramel cheesecake.
Cheesecake I do very much like, pretty much the only cake I enjoy but I like it plain. For pie, I’d probably say coconut cream is my preference if I’m going to eat it.
That’s good, might as well just eat some peanut butter cups though.
it’s topped with peanut butter cups
the best part is my mother in law makes it specifically for me and no one else eats it because for some weird reason they are all under this “you must have pumpkin pie at thanksgiving” lie, so it’s mostly all for me and one or two of my kids who follow in my footsteps
The Teacher makes her traditional Pumpkin Pie when we host T-day.
With all the other options there might be one slice taken from it.
Since I hate throwing food away I end up eating Pumpkin Pie for breakfast for about a week afterwards.
Fun Fact: Mel Kiper Jr. eats a pumpkin pie every single day
That may or may not be a fact, but I don’t know about the “fun” part of it.
It might explain his hair.
Wonder if Trump eats Pumpkin Pie every single day??
Trump eats nothing but tangerines and pumpkin pie
And lots of Big Macs.
Poor Melania.
Nice, I never understood pumpkin pie, weird texture not particularly good taste.
Pumpkin pie is spawned from the devil.
I like lemon meringue or perfectly done apple. Warm pie topped with cold vanilla ice cream.
that sounds amazing.
I pretty much like most desserts…
The only thing peanut butter is good for is mouse bait.
i just. this is mind blowing. i didn’t know there was a human alive that didn’t like peanut butter…
i now question everything that comes out of your mouth
You probably should have came to that conclusion a long time ago.
He doesn’t like peanut butter, but his dog probably does
Is there peppers in it?
My mom makes an amazing cranberry relish that has apples in it too, its not gelatinous turd consistency like traditional.
I don’t like cooked fruit for some reason. Just has a taste I don’t like. I mean, jams or jellies are OK but like Apple or peach cobbler etc… I just don’t care for it.
Your loss,
More for me then.
What no Sweet Potato Pie.
@Obviously Racist.@
I like green bean hotdish
The best green bean casserole has hamburger in it.
and tater tots on top
No. French fried onions are half the reason to eat green bean casserole.
Anyone else find it odd that KOC punted right before the half from Denver’s like 45 yard line? He usually goes for it in those situations.
I don’t know if I found it odd…I did find it stupid though.
Suspect he did not want to give them the ball at mid field after Greg missed and just a play or two from losing the lead.
Not sure how much time was left but I think enough for them to get in FG range.
something like a minute, the fat punter kicked it out of the endzone and Denver drove from the 20 to kick a FG anyway.
‘Denver drove from the 20 to kick a FG anyway.’
Of course KOC didn’t know that when he choose to punt.
He was playing conservative. Probably scarred from our short yardage woes.
Yeah IDK, he almost always goes for it on 4th and 1 in the opponents territory.
Yes. Think I saw a stat that said it was the only time he hadn’t gone for it in that situation or one of the only times. Out of character for sure.
KOC seems to get into his head sometimes….
an obvious spot to go for it, be aggressive, get points before half (especially when denver gets the ball to start the 2nd half)
but then goes for it on a risky risky fake punt (perhaps it wasn’t risky considering the formation denver had, chandler could have crab walked for a first down), but at least the field position made it risky no matter what…
cruises in the first half (against saints) then takes foot off gas and gets super conservative…
he is hot and cold
Where is NoDakRube?
I wanted to ask him what is going on in Minot.
The AF Base is warning is members to stay away from a conservative rally or ‘their career may be in jeopardy’??
https://www.foxnews.com/us/air-force-base-warns-service-members-avoid-rally-speaker-pro-trump-group
Wow! Hadn’t heard that. I will read it. I believe I am part of that “pro-trump-group” of which they speak and my peeps organized the rally…
I was out of town for the Broncos game the last 4 days and have been out of touch. I will read the article.
Stupid Woke AF.
So with the loss, does the likelihood of winning the division kind of go in the dump?
do i cheer for the Lions on thursday or the packers (for division winning purposes only)
Meteor. The answer is always meteor. The Packers winning would not be that bad though since it would help the Vikings have a chance of catching the Lions while also hurting the Packers draft pick.
had a conversation with a friend who is a packers fan….
i was telling him i have been glad to see love win some games in hopes that they hitch their wagon to him…
packers fans think they have a legit qb in love. his confidence made me worried a bit. and he wasn’t drunk.
Unlikely the Vikings win the division, outside of the Vikings they only have one difficult game against Dallas. The Vikings would basically have to run the table and hope Detroit loses a game it shouldn’t and loses to Dallas
Wouldn’t a loss to Dallas and the Vikings winning out give the Vikings the division?
IDK, something like that, I didn’t do the math, but I don’t think the Vikings will win out.
I believe so.
Give us the same # of loses and us having the tie-breaker.
Doubt it happens as Viking Fans can’t have nice things.
It’ll end up coming down to the last game and the Vikings will lose on a missed field goal.
@hope they find a more entertaining way to lose@
Alright, up by 1 with 2 minutes to go. Just got the ball back, 1st down, Mattison for -3 yards. 2nd down, false start Ez followed by Mattison screen for -2. 3rd down Mattison fumbles the handoff and falls on it in the endzone. Safety Bears with 1:35 left on the clock.
Very Mattison-centric way to lose.
I was thinking Mattison doing a Jim Marshal wrong way run with his own teammates trying to stop him but ultimately giving the other team the safety.
Yep. On the plus side, that will be the final straw for KOC and he will cut Mattison immediately after the game followed by Mattison getting released on Tuesday morning.
How long was the contract Battison just signed?
Maybe KAM could get a ham samich for him.
2 years
He has a 2024 dead cap hit of 4 mill. Can’t get anything for him since the trade deadline has passed.
I think we were talking off season.
Trade deadline is hash, can’t make any trades until start of the new league year.
Maybe one of those ‘conditional trade thingies’.
Vikings lead by 6 with 2 mins left, Bears return a Dobbs fumble for a TD, Vikings get ball, drive down to the Bears 9 with 6 seconds left, Ingram gets called for a false start on the FG attempt, Vikings have no timeouts and the game ends with a 10 second runoff, Vikings lose by 1.
Of course the FG would have to have been made but called back due to the False Start.
That would be more Viking-ish.
I left it as he never got a chance to kick it, play blown dead, that way we can all just say, “he would have Walshed it anyway!”
I like him making it for once but having it negated.
This is the way.
The Viking Way.
I agree it’s unlikely. But given Dan Campbell’s penchant for gambling at stupid times, it wouldn’t surprise me if Detroit loses a game or two that they shouldn’t.
They damn near lost to the Bears.
Yeah, well I am not overly confident we will beat the Bears.
I’m not overly confident the Vikings will beat anyone in the NFL right now, I’m also not overly confident that couldn’t beat any team in the NFL right now. They’ll lose at least one more game, probably on the road at Detroit from looking at the schedule but who knows.
None are guaranteed wins imo. I think the Vegas game looks a lot tougher than it was a few weeks ago.
It does, they are playing very well defensively, though their QB basically threw the game away last week in Miami.
Oh come on. It’s Monday Night Football against a team they should be heavily favored against. That is when the Vikings historically show up and destroy teams.
*when Hammer controls them in Madden….
Vikings are 3.5 point favorites right now, not particularly heavy, maybe its because the Vikings have a losing record at home.
IMHO CAN NOT cheer for Packers. Have to cheer for Lions to lose.
After the 0-3 start I felt the Lions would win the division easily.
Still do. They are the best team, unless they lose their QB they should walk with the division.
I am fine if they win on Thursday, since I would rather have FTP fans sad on Thanksgiving, and the Lions have done Lions things so many times I can be happy for them.
How about a 6-6 tie?
so the refs obviously missed that hit on dobbs, as they have now suspended the idiot….
perhaps they should reverse that call, no fumble existed, denver’s FG from that turnover gets whiped off the board and the vikings win.
i see no issue with this
Maybe they’ll just get a couple of make up calls on Monday?
depends on the nfl’s script
Yeah, do they want to push Dobbs more or give Fields hype?
perhaps they are wanting to push the chicago draft picks, letting them take cornerstone qb/wr combo
Yeah. They will likely get the #1 overall from Carolina so do they get to have their pick be high enough for Harrison?
Best buddy is a Bears fan and he thinks they might take MHjr at 1.1 and either take a top tier QB with the remaining pick or potentially trade that pick and Fields for more draft capital and address other needs. He wants them to roll with Bagent the rest of the year.
You forgot the sarcasm font.
I am curious about the rule, it looks like the ball is already out when Jackson commits attempted murder on Dobbs, who would get possession since its an unrecovered fumble at that point?
It would stay with the offense. Should have been 15 yards and dumb dumb ejected.
Yup.
i think since the football wasn’t in anyones possession it would remain vikings ball and we obviously would have gone down and scored a TD so it’s a shame
Not to mention the fumble was at least partially caused by an illegal hit so it should be negated for illegal play.
agreed
The ball was already out and it was caused by the player stripping it from Dobbs, so that part wouldn’t matter, but I looked it up and any penalty on the defense before the ball is recovered results in the O keeping possession.
just fyi, i said this and i didn’t even have to look it up, ben dum dum
Vikings currently 8th in Offense and 10th in defense in yards per play.
Dobbs after 3 games is at a 6.7 yards per attempt. That’ll do, we can win with that if we take care of the damn ball.
obviously it won’t do…..and yes i strategically took out YOUR narrative to fit MY narrative
Thought I had on the way to work this morning. Mind you, this was before coffee. We’ve seen what a mobile QB can do in KOC’s offense. So, with the Bears in line for 2 top 5 draft picks, if they were to draft a QB high, should the Vikings try to bring in Fields for cheap and see if his troubles are just because he is stuck in a shit organization? You could bring Kirk back on a 1 or 2 year deal potentially or just roll with Fields/Hall/Rookie.
no thanks on Fields. I would rather have the team draft the guy they think is the best fit.
Why not do both? I’d like to see Hall get some play this year. If he looks good, great, draft somebody anyway. If he looks horrible, look to Kirk/Fields and draft a rookie. Rook can come in as the 3rd guy and learn/earn his way up the depth chart. Also leaves you with more flexibility should the guy you want to draft be unattainable.
Makes some sense, I am sure the Vikings will make Fields look all pro on Monday, since….Vikings.
I will complain no matter what the Vikings do at the QB position right up until they win a Super Bowl.
If nothing else, just trying to come up with some new thoughts. Going into 2024 with Cousins/Dobbs/Hall/maybe a rookie (I am starting to doubt this more and more) is just boring.
Loose Kirk in that room, and it is much less boring.
Gonna be a cage match for the starting job?
Would bet it will all be decided before camp.
Just making a joke at Surly’s lack of spelling ability.
No, he sucks and can’t be fixed, zero pocket awareness, takes tons of sacks, is a fumble machine because of it, and is just a turd in general. Don’t waste time with retread scrub, draft someone.
Most of the prognosticators on the NFL radio seem to think differently and that the Bears should not give up on him. I don’t see how they don’t draft one with 2 top 5 picks though.
LOL, they must not have seen him play, ever.
Certain QB’s, maybe they have good PR guys, get great coverage from the media regardless of how they play.
Fields – good grief. Might as well pick up Wilson..
I’m talking 2nd or 3rd string and see if there is something salvageable there or at least have a backup with skills and starting experience, if it’s cheap. Don’t get stuck in only drafting one or only extending Kirk or only signing somebody. Do all three and keep Hall. Take more shots.
A team with 3, even 2, has no QB
Kirk is your starter and you have a guy on a rookie contract and a reclamation project. Kirk will not be around that much longer one way or another. If you end up with a stud rookie, great it’s his time. If you are able to revive somebody like a Fields then you have trade capital while also having a second insurance policy should Kirk get hurt again or retire and the rookie sucks or isn’t ready.
OK – but I’d let someone else deal with Fields. Draft a QBOTF and roll. If they decide Dobbs, roll with that.
The main thing there is I think Dobbs is what he is. Fields has a higher ceiling from a physical skills point and could just be a product of an inept organization. Dobbs and Fields are pretty similar to me other than Fields is more physically gifted and doesn’t know how to fly a rocket.
I started down this because the more I thought about it, the more I think the Vikings will not draft a QB this year. The general assumption/hope has been that they won’t. I was trying to brainstorm a path forward assuming they re-sign Cousins and do not draft one.
It;s a nice discussion. I actually think (if Cousins gets healthy), it will come down to what the Vikings want to do with their offense. Kirk was playing really well and so has Dobbs.
My simplistic thinking – Do you want a Stafford or a Murray type offense. Their are tradeoffs to both and somebody smart at Vikings HDQ;s will figure it out.
Could just trade for Murray to run a Murray type offense…
I think we re-sign Cousins before the official 24 season and trade him once he is healthy enough to pass a physical.
As a backup sure
I didn’t mean let Kirk walk, don’t draft a rookie and bring Fields in to start the season. That’s just crazy talk.
@Dobbs is a pants shitter, on prime time he had 2 turnovers, 2 muffed snaps, and on 4th down on our last series he didn’t throw it in the area code of any of our receivers@
Seriously, I believe Dobbs is what he is, a highly athletic, intelligent QB with below average arm talent. His ceiling is Case Keenum, not that we can’t when with that, but that is what he is. I do think if we our considering moving forward with him next year we should trade JJ and Addison, you don’t need stud receivers if you are seldom going to throw for over 250 a game.
But for now, there is a lot of season left, let’s enjoy the ride.
Given his running ability, it’s higher than Keenum IMO.
Dobbs could push top 15 if the turnovers stop.
Right? He’s better than Case imo.
Hard to officially tell after just 3 games for Dobbs.
The potential for Dobbs exceeds Keenum, though.
Total crap shoot at this point.
What would you say even possibly Keenum is better at than Dobbs? I don’t think Dobbs’ arm is that weak. Is it Cousins good? No. But people talk about him like he throws shot ducks on the regular or something.
From a pure mechanics perspective, I think your right.
But consistently turning over the ball, kind of ends any discussion about making any positive impact on the team.
He sure ain’t no Josh Allen. But read Mahomes lead league with completions of 20 plus yards beyond line of scrimmage. And Cousins was second in the league – like 3000 of his 4000 plus yards .
Seems like the arm is OK enough.
Keenum does not have a very good arm and haven’t seen Dobbs enough to know.
I get the idea of trading JJ in that situation, but you don’t trade a good WR on a rookie contract. I don’t think they’ll bring Dobbs back next year, they know what he is. My gut tells me that if Kirk’s recovery is on track they will extend him before the new league year and all of his 28 mil ded cap hits the books for next year. I don’t really care one way or the other as far as Kirk or Dobbs being here next year, I just want them to draft a QB early.
Sound thinking. But agree with NDR, if you are keeping JJ and all the WR talent, you need to be able to get the ball down the field to them – whoever that may be.
Kirk will get an extension. Nobody is going to sign him to a long term deal with the achilles injury and nobody but the Vikings will sign him before August. By then all he would be able to do is go in as a backup or wait for another QB to get hurt in training camp. Kirk’s only viable option for a starting gig is MN.
Correct.
The gamesmanship comes at the new league year date in March.
Kirk could say eff you and not sign anything forcing the Vikings to eat all the void years 2024. But if Kirk does that, KAM will low ball him even more.
Still think Kirk retiring might be higher odds than him signing a low rent deal with anybody.
Yeah, if they don’t work out an extension by the new league year I don’t see him wearing purple and gold next year and he might be forced into retirement via lack of contract offers. If he truly wants to continue playing then he needs to work out an extension with the Vikings. Other than that he will at best end up a journeyman bridge QB for a couple of years like Rivers or Ryan.
I can see him in a coaching/advisory roll moving forward, depending on how he turns out.
@nah. he already has a contract worked out with the Food Network on a new grilling show@
“Nobody is going to sign him” – you sure. Look at the level of QB play last Sunday. There’s at least 10 teams that have poor QB play. He may not be here, but there’s other places that need a QB.(provided Healthy).
If he was healthy, sure, but he won’t be able to pass a physical until summer. At that point he will have missed OTAs and a lot of time to learn a new offense. Is a new team going to sign him to lead a new offense without the offseason to prepare and while also risking a set back and him never getting on the field? The Vikings have 28 million incentives to extend him. Nobody else has any incentive to sign him until he’s healthy.
Get him a diaper
Is that Kirk’s awards shelf from “Quarterback”?
Lol the crazy Kirk cultists down voting you. I thought it was funny.
Dobbs > Keenum in both arm talent and mobility.
Biggest issue is fumbles.
not any discernable difference in arm talent, both good scramblers but Dobbs a lot better runner when taking off downfield.
Its rare the Steelers ever fire anybody, but they are 6-4 despite a bottom 5 offense, Pickett’s development has stagnated
Just heard the first time they had fired a coach midseason since 1941.
Yeah I didn’t know it’d been that long just knew the never fire anyone in general. He must really suck if the Steelers cut him.
Either him, the QB, or both.
That is surprising. Steelers never do that mid-season.
Discussion topic – which QB?
Let’s see. Hall – 3 series. A bit overwhelmed series against GB – understandable. First series against Atlanta shakey – understandable(first start). Second series, looked good but got knocked out. Not much there to evaluate.
Dobbs has looked really good,especially given the circumstances.
Kind of an easy choice at this point.
Agreed, in Dobbs we trust (well, kinda). If he keeps fumbling like this it would be good to give him some time on the bench and see what Hall can do.
Yep. Dobbs looks the best out of currently healthy options.
I am concerned about the fumble monster within.
Hoping we have a big enough lead at some point that Hall can get some more reps
As I recall, you like Hall a lot. A question, I’m on the East Coast and seldom see college football from out West. Was Hall the backup to Zack Wilson for a couple of years?
He was a backup his first three years of college, I want to say he spent 5 or 6 years in college after doing his two year jehova witness mission. He’s old for a rookie
He’s still in his prime…
Yeah, he’s got at least 2-3 more years of his prime before he’ll join Harrison at the assisted living facility.
Not like Zack Wilson is lighting it up in the NFL
Given his history, he could be lighting it up with NFL cougars.
I see what you did there.
WTF is going on here?
Well, I will leave it to your imagination.
This is what came up when typing MILF into the gif machine.
I just went down a quick 30 second rabbit hole with that gif, I saw a few that were not what I’d call work appropriate.
How did you get this footage of my wife and I?
You and your wife should start a reality show with all of these videos appearing on here.
They have one. It’s on Only Fans. Just search for Wrenage The Punished.
He is horrible, just got benched and demoted to QB3, which means they don’t want him playing at all because they’re going to try to trade or cut him in the offseason. Wilson has youth on his side though compared to Hall. Both likely suck and are career backups at best.
I thought Hall was the starter, before he got injured and Wilson took over the rest of that season and the next season.
Hall lost his job to Wilson? He must REALLY suck.
Hall was a backup until after Wilson left. Hall started a couple games in one of those seasons as a fill in for an injured Wilson.
He did back up Wilson. I think Hall is better, but I am wrong pretty often.
They were talking about Wilson the other day on the radio and the main take away was that he has all the physical tools, but the jelly between his ears just doesn’t work. One of the comments was that if you’re just throwing in shorts and drills he looks All Pro. Add a pass rush and secondary and he folds quicker than Kirk with a double A gap blitz.
Yep, and that is why I like Hall over Wilson. I think Hall is smart. too bad Hall and Dobbs, while smart and mobile, do not have Kirk’s arm.
Both are better than Keenum, imo.
Christian Ponder is incredibly intelligent as well, he sucked at QB.
accurate.
Gave us a few good plays though.
smart helps learn plays formation etc. Does not translate to processing speed when ball is snapped.
Hall before he got knocked out didnt impress me THAT much..
he benefitted from a blown defensive assignment and hit a WIDE OPEN mattison for a HUGE chunk play that boosted his stats.
I only got to listen to his portion of the game on the radio and they said he was looking not bad and then announcer jinxed him by saying he was good in college but his problem was getting injured. I don’t remember for sure, but in my mind I remember him getting knocked out on the next play. Stupid Atlanta announcers.
i mean he did FINE in the 2nd series, but i wouldn’t say he did anything that should make anyone think OH THIS GUY HAS IT….
yeah, stupid announcers
On the fantasy football, I would have gotten slightly more points with Dobbs at QB than Mahomes. So, our present QB is better than Mahomes.
QB problem officially solved!
If only Scandling could catch a football.
as we learned earlier this season, dropped passes and fumbles will kill you.
Silly Wrenage.
That line of thinking is only allowed for a certain QB.
Looked at the comments from yesterday, seen KFEY making excuses for Dobbs’ fumble and interception.
@Like a true Dobbistan@
The fumble was poor ball security, he was already getting stripped by another defender and the ball was coming out, if not already out, by the time the “torpedo” hit came. The int wasn’t a poor decision, he got hit as he threw, which happens. Picks aren’t the issue, he leads the NFL with 14 fumbles this season and is on pace to end up with the second most fumbles for a season in history, though he probably won’t get to Culpeppers most ever in a season at 23. For perspective, Fields is also a fumble machine and led the NFL last year with 16, Dobbs may very well pass that mark on Sunday.
Dobbs does like to display the football when he is moving/running. They need to do the technique with Dobbs where he continually carries a football around in daily life and his teammates try to strip it from him.
Just do this every time he fumbles, he’ll stop real quick!
How did you get that footage of my wife and I discussing an issue we disagree on?
Me watching you two disagree
I think that comment was more about kfey than Dobbs.
I totally f’ing disagree with your take that Dobbs will exceed the fumblerooski mark set by Fields last year on Sunday. What a moranic statement.
Well, if excuses are good for the goose they are good for the gander.
LOL, its kinda funny to see excuses being made for someone named Not Kirk Cousins.
Or the lack of excuses being used because they are not named Kirk.
I just criticize the play, don’t care what the name is. A lot of excuses were made for Kirk, most of which were ridiculous, some of which were valid. Some people will make excuses for Dobbs now and. I remember getting into it with chriscarterfallguy back on the DN because he was a staunch Keenum excuser, it seems to just be what we do.
Yeah.
I try to stay away from excuses.
It’s the NFL and you are paid to play.
If you turn it over, take a sack or make a bad play, own it.
I am not a Kirkistan by any means. He has his ups and downs like everyone. I just had to laugh at the guy calling out the Kirk lovers, doing the same thing for the QB not named Kirk.
I agree.
But he could have been using sarcasm.
I know I will be doing that when everybody starts blaming Dobbs or Hall for the Vikings troubles, just to point out the hypocrisy.
Not even close to the same thing
Talk your shit to my face when im online my dude. Wasnt making excuses for anyone, I was just pointing out that the people that defended Kirk when he was turning the ball over twice a game week in and week out to start the season and making excuses for him were now shitting on Dobbs for it. Man people talking shit when im not online gets old. Any other shit takes from the peanut gallery?
First off, I rarely check the comments after 3. So I seen it this morning at 6am.
B. I just thought it was funny.
4st. I don’t care.
Surprised that the Chiefs got zero points in the second half.
WTF?
Their receivers can’t catch, oline kept getting called for holding
Kelce had a big fumble in the red zone. Receivers were dropping passes left and right.
Yeah, Mahomes also threw a pick in the RZ, underthrew that white WR otherwise it would have been a TD assuming he caught it.
That last drop on the bomb inside 2 minutes was inexcusable.
That was brutal, shades of Troy Williamson
Yes.
Good morning, FTP & FT*
Would be good to find out what we have in Hall, but maybe the Vikes should roll with Dobbs until he really shits the bed.
Also, FIRST 🤘
Good Morning!
FTP
FTS
Agree with this.
Roll with Dobbs, when we are up 72-0 vs FTP let hall play the second half.
SKOL
Yep.
I’m about 98% with this.
If Dobbs keeps turning the ball over 2 times per game, I’d look to Hall.
Is that shitting the bed?
Even if the Vikings pull out wins with Dobbs making turnovers, I think you play Hall to see what you got.
I’d rather them give Hall a game against the Bears or Raiders than waiting until after Dobbs is bad for multiple games and then starting Hall against the Lions and finding out he’s even worser.
Fair strategy.
Can you bench Dobbs this week to start Hall?
That would create challenges with the team, the media and the fans.
There’s the rub. I don’t think you can bench Dobbs at this point unless he is god awful for a couple of games or he gets hurt.
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!
Agreed on Dobbs. Roll with him for now.