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An article regarding the Steelers being among the favorites to sign the current Vikings QB
5 players Vikings fans won’t miss if they don’t come back next year, I wouldn’t miss any of them, especially the couch
Profile of James Lynch, probably forgotten by most fans after he was lost to a season ending injury before the season started.
Non Vikings News
We’re all hoping for or praying for the best for Zeph VP.
Minnesota Vikings Discussion Topic of the DAY
Who sucks the most on the interior oline, Risner, Bradbury, or Ingram? I got Ingram but its close with Bradbury. Neither can pass block.
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Which vacant head coach job is most attractive?
LA by far
Don’t you find it odd that Zimmer isn’t getting any head coaching interview calls?
He is being black balled…Old white coaches aren’t in vogue anymore, Bellichik won’t get a job either
Uh oh,
We have reached ‘that number’.
I guess at least one poster here will be pleased.
The Vikings added a new CB to the roster today. They signed former Cleveland Browns cornerback A.J. Green III to the roster, on a futures contract.
Green has great size at 6’2″, 200 pounds, but scored poorly in the athletic tests at the 2020 combine, which contributed to him going undrafted. This includes a 4.62 forty time.
Big and slow??
Might be able to cover Treadwell then.
Guessing #11 will be QB, Edge or CB. Almost afraid to take a qb but can we get a bridge FA?
Yep, his name rhymes with Smirk Shussins.
Smirk off achilles. He want 2 or 3 year. How much guaranteed? Can see Mullens backup not starter. Maybe a Minshew. We have more holes than a storm grate.
I’m not convinced Kwesi stays at #11.
My bet is he trades down.
He looked uncomfortable staying put and taking Addison last year.
Don’t think they have 1 or 2 qb’s on list at 11?
Bears have hired former SeaHawks OC Shane Waldron as their Offensive Coordinator. When the SeaHawks moved on from Pete Carroll, most of his staff became available.
According to CBS Sports’ Jonathan Jones, Waldron is already setting up interviews with some former Seahawks co-workers and coaches — Chad Morton, Sanjay Lal and Kerry Joseph, among others — for staff positions.
Will the Bears keep Fields, or bring in Caleb Williams, or both?
They should just do both. I think there would be something like $3 million dead if they trade him and they would only save about that. Unless they can get decent value in a trade they would gain nothing by getting rid of Fields.
I agree with that. No matter how good he was in college, I doubt Caleb Williams would be “NFL ready” day one to take the reins. Much like Trevor Lawrence in his first year, or Bryce Young this year, it’s hard to be really good as a rookie QB. Mahomes even sat a year behind Alex Smith. The NFL is way different than college ball.
I’m not sold on Williams. I wasn’t that impressed when I watched, which admittedly was very little, and he doesn’t seem to have the mental makeup. That is of course an unjustified opinion from very little media coverage that I’ve seen but I just don’t see it.
Yeah, I don’t watch much college football anymore. There was a time I watched a lot of it but Saturdays are our day for “us” time. We do all the morning errands, then spend the rest of the day and evening together. Been that way for nigh on 15 years now I guess.
Bfast in bed guy. Spoiled.
I am… but I’m self aware… so I got that goin for me.
If he cries on his mommys lap after losing a collage game what will the pressure/tribulations of the pro game going to do to him??
Like Hillary cried uncontrollably after losing to Trump? And she wanted to be President of the United States… crazy.
Well she was told by everyone that she would win. So of course her disappointment was severe since she was destined to be the 1st female US president.
#entitled
She did? Don’t remember. Dem backbone.
She went into her bedroom and cried for hours. Her campaign manager had to come out on stage and tell all her supporters they needed to go home. The woman who wanted to sit in the most powerful seat in the world, couldn’t address her supporters.
Scary, only thing more scary is Harris as president.
Ehhhh.
Same minders that prop up Brandon will do the same for Cackles.
He sucks when playing decent teams
Williams is a crybaby mommas boy
Surprising.
I thought da Bears would have gone with Klingsbury.
Won’t be both, they interviewed Williams college OC but didn’t hire him, my guess is they wanted intel on Williams
Towns scores 62 and Wolves find a way to lose to lowly 10-31 Hornets at home.
Cousins fault…
Minny pro sports.
And Ponders.
#Duh
@I think Towns is the Cousins of the Timberwolves….all empty stats@
Take reincarnation for me to see another title.
Na…that’s going to serve as a wake up call for the pups….they are winning it all this year…
Won’t get out of West. Book it.
‘another title’?
when was the last time the T-wolves won one?
I think he meant any title…he was no doubt around for the 87 and 91 Twins…
AND lets not forget about those Lynx!
If he talking/meaning only Pro Minn Sports he could be right.
Add in Collage Lvl and we might get some Individual Titles ala Gable Stevenson.
Have they every even won a playoff series?
Yes
Talking all sports, that’d be 91 Twinks. Don’t count Lynx, sorry.
Cousins to the 49ers this off season???
Juicy…
NFL insider makes wild suggestion regarding Kirk Cousins’ future | Yardbarker
Yeah, Shanahan would love that, but they’re in contention to get to the Super Bowl with Purdy. He is executing Shanahan’s system pretty well. That said, the passing offense is based on timing throws, and a lot of one read plays. Could Shanahan do more with Cousins under center? Likely, but the cost is too high.
Ben asked a question today – who sucks most.
Made me think of something I read sometime back (so this is plagerized).
Most of big rushers come from the edge.
by design, our scheme has Cousins set up shallow which helps out tackles dealing with edge rushers.
The downside, it puts added pressure on IOL since he sets up shallow.
Noticed later in year our backup QB’s seemed to ‘drift’ deeper with pressure and our tackles did ‘t hold up near as well.
Scheme seems to matter.
Solid point JR and tackles have less awareness where qb is. KC under center behind Bradbury often proved fatal.
scheme does, doesn’t change that they suck, especially the ones that sucked under previous schemes
The tackles looked worse after Kirk went down because the guys playing QB drifted back right into the rusher that was getting pushed around the back of the QB by the tackles. IOL just sucks, but what other options are out there?
Dunno, but Andy Reid fixed his O-line in one offseason after Mahomes and the offense got blown out of the water in the Super Bowl.
Just perspective
I do find it interesting that only 2 teams seem to have settled on a head coach at this point. (Raiders, Titans)
I see numerous stories of teams doing 2nd interviews.
I think it’s just hiring methodology DE. Some organizations go through extended, and even overly protracted processes. I’ve seen organizations with a series of up to five interview levels before they make a hire.
For non NFL businesses, absolutely.
I don’t recall NFL teams taking that long to hire a coach in general.
Seems to me it’s usually pretty quick. But maybe that’s my bad memory.
No… you’re right DE. In general NFL hires are pretty quick. Usually only interview three or four people, and usually only one or two interviews. But some organizations are interviewing a ton of people, and having several return trips.
I do as well, especially BB and Harby since they’re not currently coaching. For whatever reason it seems like a lot of them get announced right after the conf championships.
I would think that if the Chargers and Falcons wanted College Goat and NFL Goat they would have been hired already.
Depends, I could see both of those guys demanding roster control, in ATL they’d have to fire or demote like two people.
I just found out Gary Graham died. He was in some fun movies…
Big Mel 1st mock:
Caleb-Bears
Skins-Daniels
Drake Maye?-New England
Nate Wiggins, Clemson-Purple at 11 (cb)
Interesting McCarthy at 16 to Seattle…
J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan
OK, here’s a spot for the next quarterback. While I don’t have a first-round grade on McCarthy right now — a lot can change before Round 1 on April 25 — he does have first-round arm talent, along with the ability to beat defenses with his legs. He’s the type of quarterback teams will take a shot at in the middle of the first round, especially when you consider he just turned 21 a few days ago. He rarely turns the ball over — he threw 44 touchdown passes and had nine picks over the past two seasons — and can make every throw. McCarthy just wasn’t asked to beat teams with his arm for the Wolverines, because they so often dominated at the line of scrimmage. As of now, I’m betting on a team seeing his upside and trying to take him somewhere in the teens.
For Seattle, the contract Geno Smith signed last March made it clear the team could get out after one season. Smith had a decent season (20 TD passes, 9 INTs), but will he really be here long term? I could see the Seahawks severing ties and starting fresh for whomever the new coach ends up being.
You take McCarthy at 11?
If he’s not going to make it to the end of the round, yes. Perfect scenario is draft an edge or DB at 11 and then trade back into the end of the first for McCarthy.
What about McCarthy, makes you think he will be a top shelf NFL QB?
He’s a winner and JJ to JJ just sounds like fun and like it’s meant to be.
Hmmmm… OK, I guess everyone has their methodology.
Some method is better than no method.
What little I’ve seen he’s seems to have good pocket awareness and keeps on the move. When he does scramble he seems to look to throw first but is still fast enough to run it if needed. Seems to have good accuracy even if he doesn’t have a Josh Allen strength arm.
He does kind of look like an evil clown though.
Laughing… looks like the Joker!
I also haven’t heard if he has any weird habits like Levis though. I’ve heard his dad is a creep though that likes to feel up his son’s girlfriend.
Really?
I’ve heard is mom is a Cougar who has done half the team. Could be wrong though.
There’s a couple videos going around of his dad grabbing his girlfriend’s backside.
Maybe he’s just checking out the TE…
here is my methodology….
Probably as good as any other… the draft is a crapshoot.
I think he is going to be a bust. I know, I know, odds are in favor of this, but I just don’t see a huge upside IMO.
I think he is going to be the most polarizing QB in the draft.
We sure agree on QB’s around here.
He has all the attributes you want, can make every throw, very good athleticism, doesn’t shit his pants at critical moments in the biggest games, has never been injured, played against and beat the best competition in CFB. Knock on him is he wasn’t asked to carry the team very often. I guess also, he could stand to put on 10-15 lbs of muscle.
He’s engaged now so I’m sure the wifey’s home cooking will help him pack on a couple pounds. That’s what’s happened to me anyway.
Well, you named the absolute minimum basic requirements. NFL QB’s have all those attributes, by the boatload. What do you think separates NFL QB’s from college QB’s?
Good NFL QB’s? they don’t miss any of the dunks and lay up throws and hit a very high % of the intermediate throws. That’s floor stakes.
That is very true, but here’s what I see. The percentage of college players that make it to the NFL is incredibly low. In fact, just 1.6 percent of college players do so. The other 98.4 percent of players will never see an NFL field. When talking about any college QB prospect, keep that in mind. Only 1.6% of the players they faced could make it to the NFL (noticed I didn’t say WOULD make it in the NFL) and 98.4% of the players they faced will never, ever be a pro football player. When they get to the NFL, 100% of the players they face, will be professional football players.
That and NFL defenses and offenses are off the charts more complex than any college QB has ever seen.
There’s a QB guru guy named Palmer who teaches a lot college QB’s wanting for pros.
A point he made (as best I recall). All the college guys are athletic now and used to playing with talent at WR well above opponents. Most then are one read and then happy feet. Few, very few, are even two read. His claim when you have had a lot of success thus far, it is very hard to get beyond this habit.
Thus, a lot of failure at pro level.
Makes sense/sounds logical.
Been my take for a long time.
Not only are the players you’re going against better, but you are playing on the same team as better players.
Which is why mastering complex offensive schemes, and learning how to decipher complex defense’s are the measuring stick of an NFL QB. Can you see, understand, decide, and deliver the ball in under 3 seconds, with 300 lb men crashing into you?
Yes, all good NFL QBs possess those traits, the difference in elite QBs is the ability to process information quicker.
Yes, NFL QB’s have to decipher far more complex defensive schemes, apply and execute far more complex offensive schemes, and do so in milliseconds.
Think they have a bit longer.
So, it takes .25 seconds for our brains to react to visual stimuli…I guess technically that’s 250 milliseconds so your statement is accurate – but a bit misleading…
I mean if it took our brains a full second to react that would be 1000 milliseconds…which is still milliseconds….
As Jrobert would say, I am milking mice.
OK Mr scientist… QB’s don’t have much time to see what’s going on, decipher the situation, decide on a course of action, and then execute the throw. Most times that has to happen in 2.5 seconds. If you’re looking at a 4 receiver set, going against seven guys in coverage, how many variables do you need to process in that 1.5 seconds you get to decide on where you’re going with the ball? Divide 1.5 seconds by all those variables, and you’re getting into milliseconds of processing.
Yes…
The actual minimum decision time to take the snap, read the defense, and make a decision is likely around 1 second – maybe a little less…which as I said is technically milliseconds.
Takes 100-150 milliseconds to blink. We are just talking the same with numbers. Processing at the NFL level a different animal.
90% of the processing happens before the snap for the good ones.
IDK, I like him very much, I think the question is, if you’re GM are you willing to risk your job to draft him because if you miss that early on a QB you’re getting fired (well on any team but the Wilfs, then you get 16 years and the use of several first round picks on QBs). If I were a GM, I probably would take him at 11, ideally I would could trade back a few spots to recoup the 3rd rounder from the Hock trade, but there are a couple QB poverty teams right behind them in Denver and Vegas so it could depend on if they fill their QB positions before the draft and of course a team wanting to trade up.
Played for #1 team in country, has to have a impact. Saw some of him post season but not enough for a glowing opinion. Hard to pull the trigger when one remembers Ponder at 12. I think.
Brady said he’s the best QB to play at Michigan.
Hmmm…..pretty good endorsement.
He endorsed what Jim Harbaugh said, and Michigan’s records over the last three years (26-1) is attributed to McCarthy’s play. I’m never sure about a college record, or statistics, translating to an NFL career. I would consider Harbaugh and Brady to be competent evaluators though.
Even better than Elvis!
If you think he’s your guy and he won’t last until the late 1st or early 2nd, just take him. As the GM you’ll be fired if he fails but you’ll also be fired if you don’t come across some late round gem. Even if he’s extended, Kirk isn’t going to be around much longer.
You into mock drafts now?
No, it was a paragraph, about all i can handle for another week.
Did they mock a kicker?
Didn’t see the full mock. (thankfully)
We were mocked the Kicker out of Stanford in the 7th.
Too low. Draft one in the 3rd or 4th. Defense and QB round 1, kicker in 3rd or 4th, SB in February.
Oh wait, that was Marks Mock on the DN not Big Mels.
For those of you that have a smart speaker….
I just got an Amazon Echo 2nd Generation (one of the many, many electronic devices I cleaned out of my MIL’s house) I’ve got it set up in the living room and it’s been nice for podcasts or just listening to music – greatly enjoy the speakerphone function for calling my dad.
But the best part so far?
Saying “Alexa, play fart noise’
I can’t stop crying… 😂😂😂
O.k. how many joints are you up to so far today? 😉
Just the one, but it’s a king wrap so I’ve only smoked about half and put it in my stamper
Ask her to Rap, tell a joke, one of my favorite pranks was to record myself asking my wife things on my phone or scary noises and get into the garage and connect to Alexa and have it play shit over the speaker without her knowing I am around haha. Freaks her out.
Ask it if she works for the CIA.
No, you don’t want to know the answer to that question.
Is it Wednesday yet???? Who am I kidding? I love talking about Kirk!
Let’s talk about that 4th and 8 play again. Where should have he thrown it? Was it the Oline’s fault? Was it Kirk’s fault? Was it KOC’s fault? was it a combination of all 3?
Let’s talk about how he is statistically one of the top 4 QBs in the NFL over the last 3 years. Are the empty stats? Are they meaningful stats? Who has been better?
How much credit does Kirk get for learning a different scheme every year?
6 years… but who’s counting? Grin.
Fair enough….don’t get me wrong, I am a Kirk fan, its just that there really isn’t anything more to talk about regarding Kirk, everything has been said, every stat has been documented, every criticism leveled. We just repeat the same stuff, which is kind of fun, but it is why we decided to limit it to one day.
I haven’t limited any commentary to any day though… guess I’m a non-conformist. Grin.
We have had special meetings about you and your rule breaking…
The vote was to let you remain on the site since there is this rumor that occasionally you have to go abroad and serve your country in some capacity and that grants you some latitude.
Like he needs ‘latitude’ to go with the rebel ‘attitude’.
Very astute, and very poetic SoCal.
Laughing… so magnanimous of you guys!
You’re too kind.
Why do we say latitude instead longitude when talking about cutting someone slack, is sideways better than lengthwise?
‘…is sideways better than lengthwise?’
noyst
Ha, I resemble that remark!
Think we should have a Kirk hour. Who’s with me?
between 2 and 3 am?
Perfect.
I am in favor of the full day…This is a Vikings site and undeniably what happens with Kirk is probably the biggest talking point for the next 3 months.
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But one day a week is enough.
No, I believe in free speech, not censorship.
Just have to keep NVF and KFEY separated.
Yeah, it gets kind of uncomfortable sometimes.
“I’m alright… don’t nobody worry about me… “
But I actually learned something today.
For years, spent a lot of time on golf course- esp. in winter when no one was there, and all alone. I thought it was kind of refreshing and I actually came up with some pretty good business stuff out there. But learned today one is wasting away out there and destroying mind.
and then there’s the experience thing. i had thought when I was in my 20’s and 30’s I knew everything. But as I got older, and I think some wiser, realized there was much to learn – and experience is pretty good. But today, age and experience are sort of a negative. I had here to for thought knowledge gained from experience was really good.
So, without the discussion, would not have learned all of this.
I will have to read all of the back and forth to see what dumb ass said that golfing alone is bad for your mental health…
I enjoy golfing alone, I find it very relaxing. I enjoy golfing with people too, don’t get me wrong, but golfing alone is a great way to clear your mind and or think things through.
It’s not the golfing. It’s the being on a golf course.
What do you usually do on the golf course?
Drink
Do you at least take golf clubs with you – even to pretend?
Sometimes I take one or two.
He said golf clubs, not alcoholic shots.
Need more alcohol than one or two.
Donuts on the greens.
And I am glad that you grew in knowledge because of this blog site….we should offer college credits.
One thing I can’t abide about Kirk is his proclivity for killing kittens and his addiction to smoking tampons…
I’ve never heard of people smoking tampons, is that a new fad?
Yeah and you chase it with a Tide Pod while wearing a swimsuit from Target.
Me either…
One day my coworker called me on the intercom and said, “You need to come here…”
So I dutifully went to his office. He was reading about Ray Charles on Wikipedia. Somebody had gone in and edited that line in his biography. So it went something like this…
“Charles was deeply devoted to his mother and later recalled, despite her poor health and adversity, her perseverance, self-sufficiency, and pride as guiding lights in his life. He also enjoyed killing kittens and smoking tampons…”
Got to love the Internet!
Rick Spielman’s Wikipedia read that he was a BK Fry Cook for a short time after Minny was blown out by Philly in the NFCCG
Burger King Fry Cook?
That is quite the Whopper of a story.
LOL, that’s funny.
New or used??
ewww, never mind I am getting low on Brain Bleach as it is.
‘Was it the Oline’s fault? Was it Kirk’s fault? Was it KOC’s fault? was it a combination of all 3?’
You should do a ‘Blame Pie’.
@that would be fun to argue about all day@
Combo of all three and I would have preferred he throw it to someone at or beyond the sticks.
Yes, I have come down to that conclusion as well, although I would primarily say Kirk and the Oline…a little more time and he could have hit Osborn, so hard for me to fault KOC much.
Or you could go with ‘it was KAMs fault as he didn’t get any IOL that could pass block.
For those of you worrying about having to pay for prime to watch your precious Twolves, Twins, etc. Amazon is the streaming service for them, but they’ll still be on cable.
https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/twins/bally-sports-north-owner-emerges-from-bankruptcy-in-deal-that-will-see-games-streamed-on-amazon-prime
So there would be an “additional charge” on top of Prime to get the games?
Then I am not sure its going to be worth it….
We will see how it all works out.
No, if you have cable the games are still included in your overpriced cable, the only thing that changes is it will be available on prime if you want to pay the fee to watch it there, otherwise just keep watching on cable.
My question was, is there going to be an additional charge on top of prime membership to watch the Twins games if I decided to cut the cord? It sounds like there would be.
No, just the normal charge for amazon video, I believe that’s like $15/mo but if you have overall amazon prime video is included. For me its great, I don’t have cable but my wife has prime so I’ll actually get to watch many more games.
I will probably cut the cord then, it will save me around 50 bucks a month. That’s a half a dinner.
At McDonalds thanks to Bidenomics.
Bidenomics…(“its working…..)
Bidenomics can be summarized easily:
Step 1-Break the economy
Step 2-Get the economy back to less than half of what it was
Step 3-Take credit
An excellent summary….
They slashed all four of our car tires, changed 2 and want praise for changing 2 tires.
Full dinner at McDonalds.
Yeah I haven’t had cable in a long time, I have a Vizio TV that has like 300 free live tv stations, its almost like having cable, except there are a bunch of obscure ones and it doesn’t have everything cable does, but I do get some sports stations like NFL and MLB network
If I could find internet for $75 a month, I would definitely cut the cable cord.
curious to see how much it will be…..
my guess….$29.99 a month.
I am thinking about Richard Marx today for some reason. One positive about old brain is that I am starting to forget day-to-day stuff, but random stuff bubbles up to the surface more and more!
Richard Marx cracks me up on Twitter, he just blasts people.
I had to check him out. I had no idea.
He does go hard in certain instances, that’s a fact…
Yeah, I remember this one in particular
As I get older, try to find humor where ever it comes.
In former live, a big deal was Fed rate adjustments. There is an industry and thousands of analysts that slave over every word Powell says. This phrase “probably” means this, and this phrase that. They pour over every word. and most all of it is pure BS.
Now, I read all this blather over what Kirk says – this and that phrase, and KAM’s words are all diced up, Really!
Are you challenging our well thought out parsings?
Wait, we’re supposed to put thought into our hot takes?
Not really – well maybe some. Most are reposts of some sports pundit who doesn’t know jack and is acting like some expert.
Personally, I think Cousins is pretty honest and up front, and KAM is super political, and talks out of both sides of his mouth to placate the press. That’s just how I see it though.
This is not a slight to KAM, just an observation on how he communicates.
Kirk Cousins:
” I want to retire a Viking”
“It’s not about the Money”
“I would love to play for a HOF coach”
They both do it.
Don’t kid yourself.
Maybe he think KOC is on his way to the HOF?
Well, maybe, but the reference was to a question about potentially working with Belichick.
Yeah, how was he supposed to answer a direct question of if he’d like to play for Belichek? “Nah, I don’t think he’s that great”?
Well, if he truly wanted to retire a Viking, I can think of a couple of ways to answer that.
We’re talking about a guy who takes Tuesdays off to go to the dog park and kick puppies. You think he’s actually going to tell the truth in an interview?
i actually do know exactly what will happen with all this he said she said stuff….
my spiritual gift is reading between the lines so….i know
but i’m not telling
GMs are especially full of shit – Rick Spielman, “we have no intention of trading Percy Harvin” also Rick Spielman “we have traded Percy Harvin”
That is no doubt true. But all these analysts that slave over every word said are truly full of it.
LOL, yeah they are too
In other HUGE news…with the TPups and the Twins leaving cable TV…I will be cutting the cord.
Probably going to go with a combination of Youtube TV, Amazon prime, and Peacock (my wife loves all of the law and order shows)….that combo will run me just shy of 90 a month..far less than the 140 I pay now and I should get everything I want.
I’m looking at that as well, however the cheapest internet I can find out here is $100 a month.
Youtube TV should be 73 a month, I think that is nationwide…
As far as the actual internet costs I am guessing you are already paying for that?
Yeah. We are paying it in a package with cable. $250 a month now. Just called this morning about internet only, and they said $125 per month. We are shopping internet now and leaning towards cutting cable.
Yes, if you add in our “internet” costs that would come to about 130 a month for the streaming services and our internet, currently we are paying about 180 for cable and internet, but they are from 2 different companies.
All I have is Prime and over-the-air channels. It is plenty for me.
Sometimes I think about getting a Roku, but I can’t keep up with the content I have, in conjunction with a decent-sized Bluray/DVD collection.
Well, I am a right-wing Christian Nationalist so I need to watch Fox News so I know how to think about everything….you don’t get Fox News in your configuration do you?
No, I don’t watch any news channels. I don’t read any newspapers. I basically avoid all of the mainstream media outlets.
I get most of my news from Twitter, YouTube and conversation. It works reasonably well. Whenever I heard a topic come up, I am surprised to realize that I have some information on it.
You are probably only informed of important events because of the time you spend on this blog site.
Quite possible!
I don’t mind political topics when they come up here. I usually enjoy the back and forth.
I find that I don’t like talking politics with anyone in my real-life circle. It is too angst-riddled.
Say what you will about the left, but when they don’t like something, they go out and eff things up.
The right seems to just send memes on Facebook, complain to friends and call it good. It wears me out mentally.
When you do your walk of shame, you will have to watch MSNBC nonstop for six months.
The constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment.
What’s nice about the Roku is you can take it anywhere. There’s also lots of free channels/apps for viewing content – most are full of commercials but the content is usually unedited. Many of the free channels/apps have a decent ‘on demand’ section too.
My mom has a Roku, so I look at it a bit when there. It does offer a surprising decent selection of content for free. It has a lot of shows I can get sucked into.
Currently, I am on a Forged In Fire kick. It looks pretty fun to forge knives and swords.
Great show – I’ve been watching a ton of the Outdoor Boys’ YouTube channel. Lots of survival camping and bushcraft stuff. Family friendly and great content.
Those are two of my kids’ favorites. It has been almost non-stop Outdoor Boys at our house only interrupted occasionally by Dude Perfect.
I stumbled onto them in my YouTube feed and was surprised at how much I enjoyed the videos. Luke Nichols – the creator of the channel seems like a really good dude with tons of travel and life experience. Very good natured. Just enjoyable to watch.
My kids got turned onto it a few weeks ago at a friends house. He has 2 or 3 YouTube channels. I think one is Carp and Cats or something and I know he does some knife/axe making stuff too.
Yup. Familiar with them as well. One of his coolest videos is the one where he converts a couple of smaller ATV/Go-Carts into the ultimate Nerf Gun mobiles. They are awesome. Dude is really talented.
I saw that one. I like some of their travel videos and fishing all over the world. Has some pretty good camping food ideas as well we’re gonna try this summer.
I love the Outdoor Boys!
I’m hooked on those episodes where he is trying to clean up and organize that off-grid property he bought. It satisfies the “organizer” in me to no end.
I think I saw a part of one of those, but my kids control the remote when that is on and they like the fishing and camping videos.
I also like the ones where he camps in deep cold.
I actually learned a lot about cooking various dishes just from watching his show. I didn’t realize how good oatmeal with a bit of brown sugar and butter was until I saw him make it. Now I eat it a couple times a week.
Yessssss! The same. Those videos and the bushcraft cabin are my favorites
i just cut directtv now ($110 a month), which carried all the bally sports
and joined by brother in laws youtube tv (paying him $35 per month) and then a combo of prime, appletv, disney+, hulu, paying around $80 a month for everytyhing
We just have Hulu + live tv which comes with Disney + and ESPN+. I guess we have prime as well but don’t use it much for tv/movies. We had Netflix but nobody watches it so my wife finally cancelled it.
They’re not leaving cable, you can calm down.
Kirk Cousins Clarifies Timeline on His Decision to Stay or Go (purpleptsd.com)
Well, its not entirely his decision…but point taken, it does not appear the Vikings and Kirk will get something done before March…Highly likely he is gone.
It’s Always been March 13 by 4pm.
Highly unlikely he retires a Viking. He’s chasing the most guaranteed money.
As he should.
Yes, but the point is if the Vikes really wanted him they could sign him right now…or in February, it doesn’t sound like that is what Kirk is expecting.
Well, Kirk made the March contract statement in training camp of 2023 I believe. That’s not new.
No KAM made that statement… Cousins is just parroting what the GM said.
From June 2023.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Sports/kirk-cousins-expecting-contract-talks-vikings-march/story?id=100082286
Laughing… Cousins was just telling the press what KAM was doing… KAM had rejected Cousins offer at that point, and already decided he wasn’t going to talk contracts with Cousins until next season.
Right. Kirk has no say in it and just repeats evil KAM.
You can believe that if you want.
Well KAM is the Captain so he kind of has to.
I have never said KAM is evil, or even wrong, have I? Stop making shit up in your head and pushing a false narrative on me DE.
You said, KAM was talking out of both sides of his mouth.
That’s not a compliment.
Well, he does, but again, I was describing his manner of communication. Many well educated people talk out of both sides of their mouth. It’s their way of owning the room as it were.
Just got back from my 6 month checkup for the ‘betes…
Kidney Function: Kicking ass
A1C: 5.7 – also kicking ass
Lipid Panel – bad cholesterol down, good cholesterol up – ass, kicked
Glucose: avg 109 (was at 350+ when first diagnosed) – the ass kicking continues
Thyroid: Thyroiding nicely….. and kicking ass
Weight: 299 (almost 440lbs 32 months ago) first time under 300 (barely) in almost 15 years – that’s some serious kicking of the ass.
It’s ‘Toke Tuesday’ y’all….
Hope everyone finds some asses to kick today.
Skol
Don’t you get the marijuana munchies?
I do – but I’m conscious of it so I substitute healthy snacks for junk food. Veggie straws, carrots, sesame sticks – took a while to adjust but it’s worked pretty well. I count out 8-12 chocolate covered pretzels at night for a sweet snack and eat them very slowly. So far I’m making progress. Miles away from the days of eating an entire pint of ice cream or bag of chips….. or worse.
Yean, got them pretty good in days of my youth. Just did a one hit bong as i “weeded” out. Mid 20’s i think.
Nice work keep it up!!
Nice job on the weight loss. That is solid progress.
holy bleep on that weight loss. way to go!
Congratulations on huge success! Most can’t do it.
Goose must be very proud of you.
Goose just wants his dad’s fat ass to keep up when I take him to the dog run. I unleash him and he makes 3/4 sprints around the inside of the fence, then comes back to me to play fetch or just walk. It’s usually early in the morning and there are just a few, if any, other dogs there. I close my eyes and listen to him run and he sounds like a galloping thoroughbred pulling away from the pack.
Goose married.
My daughter has two old maids – a beautiful blue eyed huskie and if Goose likes the Ann Margaret type, an Australian Red Healer.
Both could use a good guy.
lol…. He’s single…. But was neutered at the rescue when we got him….
Quite coincidentally, I had my doctor’s appointment today as well, for the same reason. Not as kickass as yours, but pretty good to very good results. Need to work on the weight loss, though. Commie EU might take care of that for me rather sooner than later.
Atta boy! Glad to hear HUN
The EU have you on that bug diet yet?
I usually end up just kicking my own ass
Congrats on the big health gains!
I have 20 more pounds to go to hit my target weight. Less booze/more gummies is a part of that strategy, plus rowing 20-40 minutes every day.
Then I log in here and rant about things to get the blood really flowing.
Mayfields contract about 4 mil. Read he may want 40-45 mil. Man, not sure on that.
Mayfield is a one read QB. Watch his play his entire career. When his first read is there, he can deliver. He takes off running or makes a terrible throw otherwise for the most part. He does not process fast enough. He’s not worth $40m.
At least he won a playoff game.
That is insightful and helpful.
Yes, he alone won the game… no other Bucs player contributed to the win at all.
So has Kirk… SO THERE!
Not much of a touch passer, throws some heat. He’ll prob try for 40 mil, i’m sure.
Mayfield isn’t getting 40-45 mil unless Spielman gets another GM job.
Maybe 30 mil, guessing.
Correct.
Only a couple of QBs are worth $40 million. The rest simply benefit by the top guys skewing the market.
Daniel Jones got $40M…
thanks to the vikings LOL
If a team doesn’t have Mahomes, Burrows, maybe Allen or Lamar, and their QB wants $40 million, that team should rethink their life.
Unless they have Herbert. Herbert is worth $100 million due to the dreamy factor alone…
In four seasons, with Herbert under center, the Chargers are 30-32. According to some here, that means “it isn’t working”.
Yeah, but look at that face!
That’s primarily because their Peewee Herman of a HC the last couple years was a moron.
Don’t disagree Bow. But all other factors are not considered here when it comes to QB’s. If “their” record is mediocre, THEY are mediocre, on this blog.
That’s the narrative.
That narrative only applies to Kirk.
Do tell? I’m shocked…
Exactly this. Record is about the same or worse than Kirk, so he must be just as bad or worse.
It wasn’t working, that’s why they fired the HC and GM.
So a QB’s record is an invalid stat???
I’ve never said it isn’t completely, but the GM and HC have the most influence on the product on the field, then its the QB. QB record is somewhat relevant, but not nearly as much as never Kirkers would have you believe.
If you have a bad QB, your chances to have success are reduced. If you have a very good QB, your chances of success are enhanced.
That’s the extent of it.
I look at more on a game to game situation.
One game, one play, one anything does not the story tell though Ben. Wouldn’t you agree? I’ve seen Jack Nicklaus miss a two foot putt to lose a tournament. I’ve seen Phil Mickelson miss the cut. I’ve seen Tom Brady’s last pass in New England be a pick six. It’s the overall picture that tells the story.
The last time the Lions were in the NFCCG, they lost to the Redskins 41-10.
How very Vikings-like. That is a decent collapse.
Yeah, not exactly 41-donut, but close
Well, I can guarantee you that won’t happen this Sunday.
Happy Second Monday.
I did not want to get out of bed today.
Me either VP, I was seriously considering taking a sick day….I guess the winter doldrums have set in a bit.
Thanks Ben.
You’re welcome
It is Tuesday… so.
7 years ago, the VIkings went on a tear with a “Noodle Armed Brett Favre Wanna Be” backup QB named Case Keenum. As most remember, the Vikings got destroyed by the poop eaters in yet another NFCCG experience. The brain trust at the time somehow felt that the team was “just a QB ” away from winning a championship.
Rather than keep Case and Teddy and let them fight it out, or drafting Lamar Jackson with their late pick, the team went out and got the best free agent QB available in quite a long time. They overpaid for that QB, and also overestimated the rest of the team.
6 season later, there is one playoff win to show for that strategy.
This off season, once again, Kirk Cousins will be the best available free agent qb out there, and there are plenty of teams that will overpay for his “very good to above average” services.
I really, REALLY hope the VIkings have learned from the last 6 seasons, and also learned from watching other teams in the division do things differently. While I would not want to copy the Bears, at least they have enough draft picks early to make a change at QB since they might have picked wrong with Justin Fields.
49rs moved on from Trey Lance, after reaching in the draft and overpaying for Jimmy G.
Teams make mistakes, good GMs move on from them vs doubling down multiple times.
It is time to let Kirk’s agent fleece a different team.
I forgot the Vikes could have had Lamar. Generally, I don’t worry about that sort of stuff. Yet, it is frustrating how we just sit and spin our wheels indefinitely.
Confirmation bias?
Nope, just facts. Thats all he speaks.
The rationale, is irrational. During his time with the Vikings, Cousins went through a different OC every year, had a coach who wanted the offense to focus on the running game, and had one of the worst O-lines in the league. Despite all that, he threw the 4th most TD’s in the league in his first 5 years and was leading the league in passing TD’s when he got hurt.
Surly, it’s not Cousins. When a team has the 4th most productive QB in the league and can’t win, they suck.
Then there’s the logic. Rams went to playoffs, decided they were a QB away and went out and got Stafford – won a SB.
This is a good rebuttal to Surly. It didn’t work out, it doesn’t mean the strategy was flawed.
I would agree with Surly though, 1 playoff win in 6 seasons does mean the strategy did not work.
The player selections, and the carousel of OC’s (remember Deflip was fired before the season was over) along with Zim’s famous defense sucking, is what was wrong. They got the QB right, and pretty much everything else wrong, including the kicker.
That is exactly my point. They paid for the best Free Agent available, failed on filling the rest of the roster, and never put together a good enough team to win. Instead of making Kirk the highest paid player on a mediocre team, maybe draft a cheaper QB and keep trying that while building a solid roster.
That dog won’t hunt Surly and a complete false narrative. They brought in tons of BAD players. Had they made better draft selections, and free agent signings, they would have done well. They didn’t.
Perhaps initial strategy was flawed? Like win against the Saints was pure luck, we really shouldn’t have gotten to championship anyway, and were NOT just a QB away.
And then there’s this – pocket QB’s with porous oline play hardly work well.
Rick brought in a number of O-linemen, they just never panned out. They invested their first round pick on Bradbury for Cousins, for instance, and he was the worst center in the league. Misses like that were the problem. Same on defense. The Vikings drafted CB after CB that didn’t pan out. They brought in FA’s that failed too. Player selection was the root cause of the debacle we’ve witnessed.
I do agree with that. The market dictated the QB salary. That salary impacted the teams ability to bring in free agents at other positions, and the team failed completely in quite a few drafts.
Still, building a roster while the highest paid position on the team is on a rookie deal, seems like a much easier way to build a contender. That is what I would like to see.
I am sure the end result will be the same, zero Super Bowl wins.
I don’t disagree, but when you bring in a player at that position, you go with proven product, or rookie risk. The Jaguars have gone 20-30 with Trevor Lawrence. He had bad stats his first year, but he’s becoming a good player. Rookies have to go through that. On some rare occasions, teams hit on a rookie that is successful, but usually three years in, is when you find out if they can do it.
So “winning” with a QB on a rookie deal, is rare.
Yeah, O’neill and Darrisaw totally suck.
Two out of two dozen ain’t bad… I guess. Nice call Ben.
He sucked trying to identify interior oline, but he drafted two very good tackles.
Like I said two out of two dozen. How many tackles did he miss on?
I think one thing we get twisted or gets lost in all this… is it does seem like the Cousins experiment in MN hasn’t work out BUT that does not mean Kirk is bad. People sometimes think things have to be mutually exclusive but Kirk is clearly a damn good QB. He just hasn’t shown to be the answer in Minnesota and that might not be on him, the onus might be on others. But it still applies it hasn’t worked here.
Blame whoever you want, but the Kirk experiment is a complete and abject failure.
That logic applies to every team in the league that hasn’t won the Super Bowl though. Every team that has a QB that hasn’t won the Super Bowl needs to move on from their QB. You know, like the Bills? Josh Allen hasn’t worked out. He’s the reason, obviously. Bills need to move on. Right?
Vikings have their wide lefts, Bills their wide rights. And that 60 yard bomb to Diggs way off.
That bomb to Diggs couldn’t have been any better. Diggs f-ed up. Diggs is too worried about what clown outfit he is going to wear pregame these days.
That was sarcasm, sticking up for Allen.
Gotcha. I should have caught that. Need more caffeine.
Coffee good
Currently guzzling coffee and doubling up on Mojo’s. Might add a little nicotine to the mix in a minute.
Chew? Pouch? Cigarettes?
Zyns. Working on quitting though so I have caffeine pouches as well. Not the same punch though and the headaches suck.
I feel ya. Was a cigarette smoker for years – gave it up in November of 2020. Still sneak a smoke from time to time – last one was in November. Tried pouches for a bit but couldn’t get adjusted to it.
I was arguing the logic. Josh Allen has not won a Super Bowl in his 5 years with the Bills, thus “it hasn’t worked out”. That’s the logic being applied here to Cousins. It’s stupid.
Was agreeing with your point. Guess i’m not coming across well this morning. Hell, maybe i need the coffee.
The difference is the Bills are a legit contender every year and compete for SB appearances, not just a playoff appearance every 3 or 4 years. The AFC is better than the NFC though and Kansas City seems to be their kryptonite.
The difference is the Bills have a good team.
No, their team is not much or any better than the Vikings. The difference is they have an All Star QB.
Laughing, so hard. Their team is better than the Vikings by a country mile.
What position groups other than QB would you trade them straight up? Maybe RB, but that’s not even a for sure.
Every position group.
Yes, Diggs, Otton and Davis are loads better than JJ, Addison and Hock.
I’d take that position group. They’re just as good.
Cousins would be fine throwing to them. They get wide open, pretty much all the time.
Now you’re just being silly. Maybe the Bills will trade Allen and Kirk can go there and prove you right, even though Diggs looks like a shell of himself. At this point Addison is better than Diggs and Davis is somewhere between Addison and KJ. Otton isn’t even top 10 in the league at TE.
I’m not being silly. I said the Bills are a much better team across the board than the Vikings. You’re being silly arguing the talent level on the Vikings is anywhere near comparable to the Bills. It’s not even close.
Outside of QB and maybe RB by a slight margin, there is not a position group on the Bills that anybody would trade straight up for. WRs on the Vikings are head and shoulders better. The rest are comparable. The Vikings tackles are better, Bills IOL, so that’s a wash. Plus their O-line looks better because Allen moves and avoids. Secondary, pretty similar. LBs slight edge to Buffalo. D-line, not much difference and Hunter is younger than Miller.
I don’t much care about this – far too subjective.
But – how did the Bills blow out the Cowboys and Allen threw for 90 yards. They destroyed the Cowboy offense and ran all over the boys defense.
Some position groups must be doing something.
They had a good game plan and executed it well with all position groups having a good day and doing their job. My only point is if you take the QB out of the equation, the Bills really aren’t that much better than the Vikings and in a lot of ways the Vikings are better. The main difference is they have Josh Allen and the Vikings have Kirk Cousins. Kirk is good, but only good. Time to try for great and be a perennial contender, not just an also ran. If you are going to fail, at least fail trying. The Vikings are treading water in the middle of Mille Lacs. Either way they’re going to drown so they might as well try to swim for shore.
this stuff is impossible to argue. Who knows – I’m more a ‘team’ guy.
We went up to Buffalo last year and beat them in their place.
Anyway you want to stack it – team against team, QB against QB, we won.
thought is was interesting Bills saved their season thjis year when they took the ball out of Allen’s hands.
It’s a simple exercise. There is really no part of the Bills team that you look at that makes you go, man I really wish the Vikings had that. Other than QB. Get the QB and you’re competing. Hit on a couple interior linemen as well whether through the draft or FA and all the better. And a RB, Mattison ain’t it.
Their O-line is miles better, their running game is miles better, their defense is miles better… what are you smoking?
Their O-line is not miles better. Running game was better from a results standpoint, but the actual players are not miles better. Who on their defense, what position group is talent wise miles better? Can you even name anybody on their defense without looking it up? Talent for talent, the Vikings are not far behind the Bills.
The Vikings rushing attack was way behind the Bills, but the Vikings passed for more yards with a hodgepodge QB room. Vikings defense gave up less rushing but more passing yards. The Bills secondary is more opportunistic than the Vikings and actually makes interceptions instead of playing volleyball to the other team. The Vikings only threw one more interception than the Bills all year but had 5 more fumbles. With Flores likely staying, a couple of pieces and the defense will be fine. Kirk is ok, but a player like Allen/Mahomes/Burrow throwing to the Vikings and they would have been fighting for a bye, not a wild card spot. Even with Kirk playing the whole year I don’t think they would have even won the division.
Not sure why you say this? Viaing for.
Last week there was a great post here about QBR and W/L etc – really good stuff.
Went and looked and Kirk’s QBR when he went down was higher than Mahomes and Goff at that time.
Now he is no Allen/Mohomes, but many analysts around the league (not here of course) had him in the top 10 and most near the 5 end.
Most again said he was playing the best football of is life – comfortable in system etc.
As such, if we couldn’t win the division, QB play is very far from the reason.
He was playing well because for the first time since 2016, he had the same OC and same system to play in, and so did the rest of the offense. Tom Brady had 3 OC’s in 20 years in New England, and the same one for his last eight years there. It makes a huge difference.
Talent for talent, the Vikings are miles behind the Bills. It’s not close.
Lol Kirk going to Buff, Diggs would immediately request a trade to get away from that dorky spaz.
It would be pretty funny. Maybe Buffalo will trade him to Atlanta and then they sign Kirk. I would love to be a fly on the wall when they meet again.
Its not stupid because they drafted him. He is also almost 10 fucking years younger than Kirk. Again context must be lost on your generation
Ahhh the deflection of the argument… stay on track here son.
Deflection to what? The argument is, is Josh Allen better and worth more money than Kirk, while being a decade younger and carrying his team further MULTIPLE times than Kirk has ever come close to. That answer is yes. And if you disagree, well your nose is too far up Kirks rear end and your taking a LOOOOONG sniff. Think you need to come up for air. Son.
You never know what you, or anyone else is talking about…
The Vikings don’t even make the playoffs the majority of the time, that’s entirely different that say Buffalo who makes the playoffs every year and wins playoff games.
So now, being in contention is success right? Make up your mind.
Also, the Bills team is way better than the Vikings.
How are the Bills a better team than the Vikings? The Vikings WRs are better, RB I would call a wash, maybe slightly in the Bills favor. Their defense doesn’t have any big play makers anymore. O-line is probably a wash. Only spot the Bills are far and away better is the QB position. Put Allen on the Vikings team with the weapons they have and they would be a force.
You’re delusional. Bills talent on both sides of the ball is miles better. Their O-line is great, their running game is great, their defense is great (4th in the league in points allowed)… stop Bow.
What I am getting at is people think the argument is “is Kirk good or bad?” which isn’t what any rational person is asking because anyone with half a brain knows he’s a top 10 QB in the NFL.
Are you trying to summon KFEY???
Here I am!
Lol nah, never has been, never will be. 12-15th during the span of his carrer. He has occasional top 10 weeks to a month at most. But isnt consistent enough to be top 10 in anything.NEXT!
That’s just your gut feeling you can’t name 14 QBs who’ve been better than he was last year or this year when he was playing.
Sean McVay used Stafford correctly, ran a great offense. Also, they had a great O-line, a solid running game, and a good defense. Yeah, they just needed a QB that would listen to McVay. Goff famously said, “sometimes I listen to him, sometimes I don’t”. Which infuriated McVay, especially when Goff didn’t go where he was supposed to with the ball.
Rams had a solid team prior to that trade, and that trade has worked out well for both. Rams did not get the most expensive Free Agent, they traded, dropping Goff salary and taking on/extending Stafford.
Goff has improved the last two years.
Stafford played well enough to get that ring. Rams are now in a bit of a salary cap bind moving forward.
Not quite apples to apples.
Vikings were nowhere near as complete a team as the Rams were. Rick just thought they were.
And that is exactly the point – The Vikings were not just a QB away from getting to the SB. A fair minded take would suggest they shouldn’t have even got to the championship game in 17 – miracle play. So, an honest evualuation would have would have directed several different thngs.
Do believe, not just money, but Rams gave up a boat load of drfst capital for Stafford – a side issue though.
Yes, it worked for the Rams, failed for the Vikings.
I would like to see something different.
With a young QB, you can have false hope that he can suck less eventually.
with an established player, you normally know what you are in for.
I am ready for something else.
I’m ready too – but want them to be smart about this.
Not interested in false hope though – and we can suck more – much more. And I’ll bet, all those that are saying that’s ok, at least we tried, will be first in the bitching line.
I’m only interested in that unless it is absolutely necessary.
Well Surly as I have detailed here for awhile, you’re going to get your wish. I doubt bringing in a lesser QB will make the Vikings better, but that’s your take. Get worse at QB, and we’ll be better.
They might just get better though, and cheaper to boot and set themselves up for a decade plus of competing for a SB instead of competing for a wild card spot.
Laughing… “they might just get better” OK.
You’re right. Obviously not possible. It’s not like half the league has a QB better or anything. The Vikings should just accept the mediocrity of the past decade, extend Cousins for whatever he wants and keep hoping for a chance at a wild card spot. Absolutely no reason to try and improve and get younger at the most important position on the team.
How much risk are you willing to take?
50% – I’m OK with that – are you?
How about 20% success rate?
I can talk all day about things I’d like to do, doing them – another matter.
I still don’t see Kirk and a high draft pick this year as diametrically opposed choices. Do both. Give Kirk a 2 year extension AND draft one high this year. I would also bring in a current player on the cheap that may have some up side or at least be able to be a better than average backup like Mac Jones.
Cousins is not coming back.
Yes, I know. He told you at Thanksgiving dinner.
No, I’m a savant…
Kirk two years and draft a QB to train is, in my opinion, a reasonable way to go. Have options while not going on a risk tare .
But what does Kirk’s Uncle think?
The Vikings are moving on from Cousins Bow…
We’ll see.
So then it was pointless to sign Kirk.
No – it was not pointless.
Are we playing gotcha today?
No, but at the time the FO thought they were a QB away so they signed Cousins, it was pointless.
Yeah, because veteran QBs like Matt Stafford are available every year, its so easy.
I don’t think I implied it was easy?
Was merely countering an argument about picking up a QB piece.
Ah yes, the outlier and exception to the rule. Want to compare their roster to the Vikings? THEY ARE SO FUCKING FAR APART ITS FUNNY! Your logic is garbage when context is applied. Please, never speak of the Rams and Stafford again. (Also Stafford has always been a better QB than Kwerk)
Another emotional outburst from someone who insists it is others who don’t see things clearly… pretty silly.
Forest through the tress senior, forest through the trees. I know things get foggy when you live on a golf course for too long. Lose site of the big picture. Ill stop having emotional outbursts when im retired too.
Yes, you are foggy. I’ll give you that.
“Please never speak” …… are you running this site? I thought it was public and people expressed opinions. Perhaps you might want to read up some on your logic parameters, and indeed context is really important.
the outlier and exception – one maybe, but then there’s Brady too.
Let me know about running the site though
KFEY… a legend in his own mind…
You’re a kind man.
One tries… I am being less civil today though… kind of out of character.
Not bad, given the shit thrown.
You and I are able to completely disagree on things, and not be disagreeable.
Others should take note.
You do see where I say in my original post that they got the best free agent QB available in a while, right? I am not bashing Kirk today ( I know, strange), I am pointing out the failed strategy.
Over paying for any one player /position to the detriment of the rest of the roster will not work
Team overpaid for a TE last year, that will hurt for a while.
Team will overpay for JJ soon. That will prevent signing an available free agent that would be better than the couch.
But that’s flawed too. Over paying for the right piece, at the RIGHT time, might just work out fine. But certainly wrong at the right time.
Error was thinking one piece away.
I posted the top 15 QB’s by payscale a couple days ago. Cousins is the 15th highest paid QB in the league at the moment. So by your reckoning the the 14 teams above him can’t win because they pay their QB too much.
This remains faulty logic, and a false narrative.
Until he gets the contract he wants lol. You know thats bull shit. He’s been in the top 3 paid QBs contract scale wise almost his entire time with the Vikings in context of that year and market.
Funny, the most successful team Kirk was ever a part of was the year he had by far the fewest attempts and yards since becoming a full time QB. That year the Vikings rushed for over 2k yards and made it the furthest in Kirk’s history in the playoffs. Funny how minimizing him led to the most successful team season in his life.
You might notice most all the playoff teams run the ball fairly well and play “some” defense.
Bills seemed to turn around their team this year when Allen stopped passing so much – believe they trounced Cowboys and Allen threw for 90 yards.
Funny how a good running game, and a good defense wins? OK, but when you don’t score points with that running game, and your defense sucks, you better have a top shelf QB who can deliver the ball.
Yeah, they do typically have some semblance of a running game and defense, but people want to talk about bulk stats all the time, yet the team was best when they didn’t ask a whole lot of Kirk.
Its only irrational to you because you think Kirk is something that he’s not. The rest of us are in the clear.
The data speaks for itself… you are full of Cousins false narrative BS. You refuse to see reality not I, and I have presented tomes of data to that point. Stay on the porch son.
Im full of factual numbers and stats the counter yours. If you want to call it BS , call it BS but you’re blind to the truth and dont like it. Thats on you. See yourself to the porch and go buy a Falcons jersey when Cousins ends up there. Im sure they have a nice fan form site you can go dick ride Cousins on there too.
Ahhh yes… you’re full of stats and data that are not at all salient to the discussion.
As i said, stay on the porch son.
Good points… I think I still want Kirk back lol. I saw some posts about how we either get rid of Kirk and draft a QB in the first or get rid of Hunter and draft an edge rusher in the first…
I think KAM will get rid of Cousins, Hunter, and Smith. All are older with big contracts. He’ll move on this year.
I would also be OK with this… but he needs to Draft better. Just has to.
I agree. This is the crux of the matter as we have discussed. KAM is going to dump players, create cap space, get high draft picks through continued failure next year, and in 2025 be set to assemble the first stage of a Championship team. The question is, what does he know about building a Championship team? To date his roster building skills have been seriously deficient.
I disagree his roster building hasn’t been seriously deficient… but his drafting sure has been lol.
Queasy should just fill coffee cups in the war room.
You could be right but I’m willing to give him his due. He has 2 years left until I get my pitchfork out… (a really shitty draft could change my mind lol).
Why would you hire a guy as your top executive, responsible to build the team, who needs to “learn” how to do that, and get better?
I never said anything about him learning. But rather this is not his roster yet. I am willing to give him a chance to do his actual job before I get my pitchfork out.
OK, I just think to date, he hasn’t built shit… and after two seasons we’re still waiting to see what the team is gonna look like, other than a bunch of lackluster players.
Right, he’s had to navigate inside of a lot of bloated Rick Contracts. Again, we can’t in one instance go, Rick had a lot of bad bloated contracts and then turn around pretend Kwesi doesn’t have those to deal with.
I think JJ should also be traded. The entire team needs to be rebuilt.
Next year will be rough, the following could be better unless Kwesi messes up yet again.
49ers didn’t overpay for Jimmy G, his contract at that time was in line with being around the 16thish QB in the NFL. I don’t disagree with the rest, though at the time I was firmly against drafting Jackson. Either way, no matter what excuses or explanations you want to make, since that 2017 season the Vikings have been a below average team, missing the playoffs most of the time, but remaining “competitive” late into the season. That satisfies most fans though, which is all that matters to that majority.
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If I had to choose, I’d say Bradbury. He gets destroyed by good nose tackles.
An he has a major case of SwAss. That’s probably the root cause of a lot of the turnovers the Vikings had this year.
Ingram… Bradbury does A LOT for how the protections are called and such, that became very apparent when he was out. Bradbury is also good in the run game.
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