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We Got To See Dr. J!
Kiddo and I went to a fundraiser, it’s an annual event by Cross Training Ministries, a Christ-centered sports ministry based out of Bismarck. The guest speaker this year was HOF NBA legend Julius Erving (Dr. J.). He talked about growing up in New York, his path to the NBA, struggles and adversities, and how his faith helped him along the way. He’s a really funny guy, great sense of humor & came across as genuine. We had a great time, bought a couple items at the silent auction, including a framed collage of Teddy Bridgewater prints. I bid on a helmet signed by Justin Jefferson, but it went for something like $4,500, and that’s above my pay grade.
If anyone wants to donate to Cross Training, you can do so here. It’s a really cool ministry and I’m proud to support them.
Vikings Discussion
So, there’s lots of chatter out there about Daniel Jones possibly landing in Minnesota. It kinda seems like Jones & KOC are flirting. Jones says he likes KOC, KOC says he likes Jones. What next, holding hands? Just kidding. I could see the Vikings making this move. It makes sense. If Darnold goes down, the season goes down with him, because I don’t think anyone expects Mullens to lead the Vikings on a deep playoff run. I don’t think Daniel Jones will lead them on a deep playoff run, either, but I’d say his chances are higher than Mullens’. Make it happen, KAM.
Vikings News
Over at Vikings.com, Kevin O’Connell covers a wide range of topics at his Monday presser.
The Vikings waived TE Nick Muse, according to Athlon Sports.
NBC Sports says that the Vikings gave the Bears too many chances on Sunday. Thanks, Captain Obvious!
NFL News
Daniel Jones has cleared waivers and hit the open market, per NFL.com.
This is awesome. The Jets are hiring some former GMs, including Rick Spielman, to help them find a new coach and GM, according to CBS Sports. They’re hiring a former crappy GM to help them find a GM? That’s a bold move, Cotton. Let’s see how that works out for them.
Media Selection
Here’s a cool video I found on Dr. J. Enjoy!
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I think it’s Wednesday.
Crap,
No Pace Jr sucks.
Ivan Pace Jr is going on IR
Crap!
Me tiptoeing through the threads today…
Haha! There are some contentious ones for sure.
Channeling our inner Frank C.
Yeah, I read some, and kept my distance.
MT is normally….
I’m actually kinda pissed today. Still not entirely sure I want to share, but of late there has been no shortage of mother-daughter and mother-son drama (my stepkids). Completely f’ing ridiculous how they are teeing off on my wife (latest is essentially how dare you invite him/her to Thanksgiving at your house). I really can’t wrap my head around it as comparing the way I was raised to my stepkids is like comparing spending a month in a concentration camp to spending a month at the Fairmont Orchid in Hawaii.
Daughter sent a shitty email last night (my wife and I have a joint email) taking a few swings at her. I’m in the process of typing out a response. My wife was in tears last night. She came in for lunch just a hour ago and said that one of the recent verbal knives that was driven in by her daughter was that I had really close relationships with my (they are all female and younger than me) technologists, “oh but he is probably oblivious to what’s going on”. F me. Who says that s? I can tell you guys with 100% honesty (my wife never visits this site) that I have never ever ever ever cheated on my wife in any sense whatsoever from a proposition, caress or hand hold up to the biblical version of cheating in the 32 years we’ve been together. Just totally meant to hurt my wife.
Deep breaths.
Drama queens (and Kings) have to have drama.
They will manufacture it if they have to.
This is a ‘them problem’ not a you or your wife problem unless you let them make it your problem.
Not easy to be in the middle of, condolences.
Thanks, WeIda. Sucks because I really love my job and the people I work with but that kind of rumor can really spread like wildfire. Plus I am ugly as sin, not a catch in any way shape or form unless being bald and middle aged has become sexy in DEI times.
You forgot one thing though
That’s a pretty big thing too.
And if all things are proportional he probably has another ‘big thing’ the ladies might be thinking about.
#joke
Sorry for you family struggles….You can choose your friends but you can’t choose your family is an unfortunate truth sometimes.
I truly hope all works out….but don’t let anyone shit on your wife.
Sorry for you and your wife. Don’t understand why people say hurtful things but they do. And it hurts even more coming from close relatives.
You love your wife, she knows who you are.
Hope this passes quickly.
I bet your wife would not approve of the feelings you have towards me, MT just sayin…
Jk jk
Im sorry. It’s crazy what holidays bring out in some people. I’m sorry your wife has to deal with that
Sorry MT, that sucks.
LOL yup
Do we have a chance against Arizona?
Arizona scored 6 points vs the Seahawks last week…
Ahem the Vikings kicked 4 FGs in a victory over the vaunted Jaguars, then the Lions put up a full deck of cards.
we would have crushed the cardinals with 4 fg’s…
Vikes had over 400 yards of offense against the jags. Context MT. Context. Do we have a chance? Come on dude. Get real. It might be close but Vikes win.
Yes, but we will probably lose. The refs didn’t screw the Vikings enough last week, so we’re due.
Pretty good chance, I’d say. DVOA has the Vikings at #4 and the Cardinals at #11.
Too bad DVOA isn’t real.
Doesn’t it seem like the blocking has been much better since they made the change at right guard?
I don’t think I’ve seen Darnold scramble much the last couple weeks.
i feel like since Darrisaw went down, our blocking has sucked.
IDK…there were many plays where I was in the process of wincing as the pocket collapsed, worried his arm was going to get swatted as he threw. Seemed like that pressure was interior DL.
Here is where Sam Darnold ranks in some key QB categories thru Week 12…
Passer Rating — 8th
QBR — 14th
Expected Points Added — 10th
Yards Per Attempt — 4th
PFF Grade — 9th
Adjusted Comp % — 9th
Big Time Throw % — 5th
Average rank — 8th
(Kirk Cousins average rank in those same categories — 17th)
It’s interesting isn’t it? Is Darnold actually that much better or are the weapons and the coaching a big part of it? I’m guessing a bit of both. Also I think I would rather have a Darnold that will make a bone headed throw trying to make something happen than Kirk “check it down on 4th down with the season on the line” Cousins. Lol
Theres lots of factors that go into it. And like I stated below, KOC and this Vikings scheme and environment and coaching is why Sam is doing this well. Its why Kirk did well with KOC. But thats the point. We can get just as good and occasionally better production than Kirk, for 1/3 the price and put that money into other parts of the team. Thats how you build a legit roster and go places. And its what some of us have been begging for since Jan of 2020.
I feel like this is what KAM meant when he said a competitive rebuild. It took a few years to get the cap where we need it.
Get this, I was just singing some national songs here at home. No big deal, patriotic songs. My Country ’tis of Thee, God Bless America, etc.
I then wanted to sing the national anthem but stupid me couldn’t remember the second or third line. So I asked our Google Home what the lyrics were to the national anthem. “Sorry, I don’t understand.” I asked what the words were to the USA national anthem. “Sorry, I don’t understand.” I asked what the words were to the United States national anthem. “Sorry, I don’t understand.” I told my wife, who asked it what the lyrics were to the Star Spangled Banner. “Sorry, I don’t understand.”
I then asked Google what a recipe was for chicken with ginger. It began to answer from a website. I asked what a recipe was for sautéing mushrooms in vinegar (just a random thing to make up). It began to answer from a website.
Yet Google can’t tell me what the national anthem is? Dumb.
Ask it for the words to the Star Spangled Banner.
Shoot missed that sorry.
No worries. Wall of text.
They did.
Yeah, it’s intentional. It can understand anything but things they don’t want you to understand.
That’s some good company to keep.
I was told he’s not that good though. Now I’m confused.
How’s everyone liking Trump Cabinet appointments? Let me guess… They are all the biggly bestest ever. Orange daddy can do no wrong. (I’m making fun there, calm down). I wanted Trump to win, this isn’t an attack on him. Just curious. Any President is going to have appointments that make you take pause if you don’t worship a party line. But just curious everyone’s actual thoughts. The Linda McMahon one is the silliest one to me but if you want to dismantle a department you don’t put someone in there that is overly qualified and great for the department. Just like Trump did last time, he put someone in there with no real experience in a classroom but just as a way of patting her on her back for all her loyal support. I’m all for school choice and state rights, the biggest overreach of the federal government in education was No Child Left Behind which was a Bush initiative that I am sure was still the Dems fault around here (Pubs can never do wrong EVER) but it highlights the issues with federal education mandates. I just think we’re letting the fox in the hen house. It’s very obvious that the real push here from many is finding a way to have federal dollars support religious education. That’s wrong in my book and wrong as far as the constitution is concerned. If you disagree then we are just going to disagree on this. I think federal dollars pushing religion is wrong, as does the constitution. I do also worry about how that looks if you dismantle funds from public education for students who are in low income areas that are already struggling. But I am starting to feel about education like I felt about Obama Care which is even though I don’t like the idea of Obamacare, something different needs to be done. I just don’t want kids born into poverty to have an even worse chance at being educated but again what we are currently doing isn’t working either. I’m for change, but the federal government should not be funding religious education. I put some jokes in here, but I am curious how everyone is feeling about them.
I like Elon and Vivek but it is funny that you have 2 guys doing essentially the same job for a department about getting rid of waste lol.
So yeah, just curious your guy’s thoughts. We’ve already argued about the education thing a bit. So if you think the federal government should be funding religious indoctrination we are just going to disagree. But I am definitely not against education reform as long as the kids born into shit situations still have a chance at a quality education.
Country is on a collision course with bankruptcy, and the government is full of corruption. I’m glad he’s doing things differently, new approach, get rid of the bloating which is suffocating the country.
Differently good, unconstitutional not good. This is my worry. That in the movement to do things differently we let the fox in the hen house and we start doing things fundamentally against the constitution. Change in education reform good. Federal government paying for religious indoctrination bad.
You remind me of the 600 pound over weight person. Even before they lose ONE pound, they are worried about losing too much weight.
Thanks for avoiding the actual question. Honestly tells me all I need to know of your actual stance.
Thank you. Read below my answer to your post which I posted FIRST. Somehow this got posted above it.
If you want to know how I actually feel, ask me a question.
And honesty, the tone of your post tells me a lot about your grace and goodwill with which you conduct yourself.
And I was the IDIOT that gave you thumbs up posts, even when I very much disagreed with you, simply because you had the balls to take on so many of us here.
Dude, this came across first and came across like just being insulting to avoid the question. Don’t blame me for your words. You liken me to a 600 lb person on a diet, I say thanks and I got all I need to know from that and yet you are the one with hurty ouchy feeling. like dafuq?
Well I have no idea how it came around first. And my words. You asked for my thoughts. Your overall theme was about ‘over reach ‘ and my metaphor, given the mamouth nature of the federal government, was to imply let’s cut some before we start worrying about over reaching.
And, you and I have tossed around many political issues, have I ever ducted a question?
And I have no idea what ‘dafug’ means – but probably not good.
I think a lot of what we have been doing is fundamentally against the constitution.
Agreed, and that needs to change.
Yeah, Brandon has done probably hundreds of things against the law and constitution, but now people are worried about what Donald MIGHT do. Ridiculous.
I do agree with you on the religious indoctrination, there is a line that needs to be honored.
I also think we need to dismantle the current oligarchy. A few wealthy heads of giant corporations shouldn’t be running the country, but they have been for decades. Both sides are guilty.
They have gotten so good at playing both sides so no matter what the real people at the very top win. They aren’t dumb.
Greedy & self/-serving, could be considered treasonous.
I’ll bit.
The cabinet in general. If the goal was to shake up DC and make an attempt at the swamp, this is a good start.
You and I have discussed the religion/school issue before. I simple know whenCatholic Schools existed in the inner cities. a great many poor,black kids got a real chance for an education. Now, they have ZERO. I wish there was some other large private group, that had the resources of the Catholic Church, that could do this so we could take your religion thing off the table, But no group has stepped up.
Why are you so consumed with separation of church and state? If the government can give funds to Al Sharpton to help poor kids why can’t it give funds to a religious organization to do the same?
Letting me have my tax dollars to put towards my kids education where I choose would allow small, popup private schools to form that wouldn’t have to be religiously affiliated, like some of the small STEM schools that there are already.
If that will work (happen) great.
Yeah I get that. I don’t mind that idea but we’d have to start slowly right? Because you or other “good/involved” parents would do the right thing but the parents who aren’t involved at all, the parents who don’t check on their kids or give a shit enough. Have to figure out how do those kids get placed but yeah I hear ya.
It would theoretically incentivize the public schools to improve as well if they lose students. Keep the public schools, but remove some of the bureaucrats and union crap and make them compete with the private schools. The cost per child for education in this country is way too high compared to other countries when you take into account where the US ranks in education.
Because of his history, he is heavily biased in this regard. But then again, we all have things like that, maybe.
Still, given the staggering problems facing this country and the availability of means to solve them (limited). throwing out the ‘separation’ thing is little more than an unnecessary obstacle at this point.
Me choosing where to use my money for my kids does not affect the separation of church and state as long as the state doesn’t get involved in the school.
Agree completely. If you get tax credits, and you freely choose where to send your kids to school. the state should not be able to say ‘ any school but a religious one.’ Believe that would be unconstitutional.
Believe this whole separation idea is a complete red herring. The libs don’t want ONE dollar to be taken from their budget to go to any private school.
I’d be more worried about separation of church and state from the other side and the government overreaching and trying to get involved. How come you can get your tax dollars back to buy a “better” (electric) vehicle, but I can’t get my tax dollars back to send my kids to a better school?
Shouldn’t be.
I’ve been around for a while and I can’t recall in my life so much made of this separation of church and state before last 20 years or so.
How long ago, did some genius decide that we needed to take the phrase “under God” out of the Pledge Allegence.
If the school is a religious school it absolutely does.
Nope. Unless people are forced to attend or the government tries to control the curriculum, there is no infringement. There are tax vouchers for a million different things in this country. This is no different. Should I not get a tax break for donating to my church?
Yeah? Would you be OK if all the Christian churches doing all the indoctrinating were instead the Satanic Church or Muslim? You would just be like, “meh, there’s bigger issues…”
Thought you already knew my stance on things? And now your even mouthing my response .
What history is that? I looked into the history of religion and Christianity from an academic point? I mean I was a VERY loud Ashiest for a while. Honestly more agnostic now but at the same by definition I think agnostics are a sort of athiest just not a know it all loud one like I use to be haha.
I’m not talking Christian history, I’m talking your personal history which you have shared with us.
Because freedom, and you can’t have freedom of religion without freedom from religion. You’re telling me you would be just as OK if it was Muslim Synagogues or the Satanic Church doing all the inner city work? I bet not. People are OK with it when it’s their side doing the infringing on liberties and freedoms.
Is freedom and the constitution important to you? If so you can just have the parts that you like be the things that are taken seriously. And be OK with freedom of religion not being taken seriously.
No group has stepped up because the Catholic church has learned how to amass an insane amount of money with not paying taxes while at the same time knowing the future of any organization is in indoctrinating kids.
Do these churches actually care about education or indoctrination? Do the education without the indoctrination and we are fine. If Al Shapton is using that money without indoctrination then we are fine. This isn’t a hard concept.
Since you told me above you already know my stance, then I’ll simply pass on replying to this.
If nobody is forced to go to those schools and they are not run by the government, then I don’t give a damn who runs em. The Satanic Church elementary school is not going to have much business.
You don’t understand the church community aspect that goes along with a good Catholic school. Pretty sure our school runs on a lower budget per student than the public schools, gets no public money and gives kids a significantly better education. The kids also appreciate the church community aspect of the school and it’s much more of a family than a regular school. Nobody is forced to attend and the government doesn’t fund it so why such a problem if I want to send my kids there and get some of MY tax money back for it? Nobody is infringing on anybody.
OMG. Two of my kids went to Catholic schools. Can you imagine the terror of a Nun coming in and saying “Honor your Mother and Father”, or “Be good to your Neighbors.” Shame.
That’s crazy. Ours doesn’t even have nuns, just teachers who choose to work at a better school for less than the public school. They have a pretty radical school mission though “BCS will provide an exceptional Catholic education emphasizing formation in faith, family spirit and academic excellence.” They’re students only get into crap schools like Gonzaga, Villanova, Seton Hall, Notre Dame. Pretty lame when they have a whole 80 or so kids per grade. They also offer over a dozen AP classes starting in 9th grade as well as college credit classes. Then there’s the test scores that far exceed any public school around here and graduation rates the public schools couldn’t dream of, but yeah, it’s just a big indoctrination factory.
I just thought of a down side and I’m probably going to pull my kids from the indoctrination camp now. They have only managed to win 4 state championships so far this school year.
I would have killed to go there when I was a kid, religion or not. All I’m asking is that my money, or at least a portion of it, goes to educating my kids. If you don’t like the religion portion of the school, then that’s what STEM and public schools are for.
My wife went to school back in the days the nuns carried a ruler or strap. Good times. Maybe it’s not common here (US) but in my public high school the gym teacher had “the slipper” and the principal had “the strap”…if you wanted to avoid the dreaded parental phone call you could take the slipper or the strap. Of course I never had such experiences (at school) as I was such a nerd that the teachers loved me.
tl:dr
US healthcare system is shit, so I agree with you that we need to do something about it. We pay over $2000 a month for health insurance.
Education system is bad, needs changes. I agree with your last sentence 100%.
Yeah I really didn’t care for the idea of Obamacare but I was like, shit something needs to change. haha.
A couple, like the ED pick seem a bit silly.
The government structure needs to be dismantled in its current form.
FYI…. None of these Fed agencies are in the constitution.
DOJ, DOD, FBI, and ED need to be stripped bare after what Biden did.
Fair points.
Every president does this. Not specific to education.
Agreed, true.
Did you even look at any of Linda McMahon’s work with education. A simple Wikipedia search shows she has worked many years in education, maybe not as a teacher, but as an administrator. She also sat on Connecticut’s board of education. So, I don’t see it as silly, like you.
She has worked at some colleges and sat on a boar of education. That is NOT someone who has a fucking clue what actually happens in classrooms. She’s a rich person who got these positions because of her money. I see it as silly because I did know about those things but also realize being on a board to try and OK some curriculum is no where the same thing has being apart of the actual profession at any point in your life.
I think it’s probably more important to understand the bureaucracy of the school system than how to teach kids to add 2 plus 2.
Does seem like very few CEO’s start as clerks or in entry level positions.
There’s a benefit to understanding some aspects of certain jobs, but a good manager/CEO/Executive does not need to know how to perform all tasks in the company they run.
Dr Jill has a Phd in Education. That should tell everyone all they need to know.
The best hospital administrators aren’t doctors.
Ain’t that the truth? Our organization is physician led by charter, but a physician with true administrative skills can write their ticket to any organization in the country and wouldn’t be found in Billings, MT. Wish they would put a top flight CEO in there.
Of course not! Fantasy world is where some people prefer to reside, and they will be up in arms about everything before even giving someone a chance. I didn’t hear him or anyone else complain about all Biden’s DEI hires….
Just got back from a few days in Palm beach area.( and fighting the flu too). Man. has that area changed in the last couple of weeks since the election. The establishment has arrived in force. People, security everywhere,. You go to a nice place to eat and you’re likely to get waned by security as some big shot is there. Traffic is a mess but it’s nice to see all the horrah.
Anyways, where in the hell is NLV? I wanted to ask him some Ukraine questions.
We want to come down there sometime this winter.
It’s a great area especially in winter. Numerous beaches and plenty of nice places to stay throughout Palm Beach County. And many fine places to dine at reasonable prices.
I love seafood. I eat a lot of it when we travel, especially down in that area. Seattle and New Orleans also have great food. New Orleans is a shit hole, though.
Seattle is a shit hole now, too, I suppose.
We were in downtown Seattle a few years ago and yes, it is a dump. Sometimes literally.
I lived out there in the mid 90s. I didn’t go back until 2020 I think. It had changed a lot, gotten a lot bigger and crime a lot worse, and that was before crime really got bad.
Joe said crime rates are dropping now because of his administration.
It is true,
Crime rates are falling because his administration changed the reporting rules so now less places are reporting crimes so the ‘rates’ are down.
OSHA’s rule for employers is if it’s not documented it didn’t happen. Since they are all part of the fed, we simply apply that same logic, and if the crime isn’t documented, it didn’t happen.
You’re correct, there are a lot of places that are not reporting or under-reporting
I don’t think Joe knows which century he’s in
Amen on NO and Seattle is not what it used to be, but some great food.
Think you will like the variety in southern Florida. Interestingly, I’m used to DC and Orlando prices. Now, Palm Beach is one of the richest in the country, yet dinning prices pale compared to many other major cities. Very reasonable.
I agree, the dining was reasonably priced when we were down there. I LOVED driving on the turnpike, 95 miles an hour was the average speed from Orlando to Miami.
We go to the pan handle area visiting friends. Very nice there. Buy seafood right off a boat.
Pan Handle has great seafood and is even less expensive. Have friends that love it there, call it the ‘ redneck riviera.’
I lived over there near Pensacola for a few months, that was in 2004 or 05.
Speaking of the panhandle, has anyone seen FloridaSkol lately?
Figure he is settling in to work with the DOGE.
They said that they want smart people who used to work with government who can afford to work for long hours for free who want to help cut out fraud and waste. Sounds like it is right up his alley.
Could be right on. I had another, wilder thought. He is actually Elon and comes here to share his Viking thoughts. Now, with the election over, he is very busy and just doesn’t have time for us – for a while.
I thought he might be guiding some of those missiles for Ukraine.
In flight missile repair/guidance?
Not much of along term career.
After wasting $1-1.5 Billion on Cackles the DNC dumps 2/3s of their staff with little notice and no severance. Now their union is trying to raise $25k to ‘help those in need’. I am sure you guys want to give to their GoFundMe account.
Love it when the Left screws things up time after time after time.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dnc-union-launches-gofundme-help-former-employees-hit-massive-layoffs
Perhaps they should go to Soros and those millionaire hollywood people and get them to pony up the money.
And maybe skip the Maui vacations too.
At least they’re staying at a cheap, $1600 a night lodge.
Can’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express to plan your next presidential run.
Higher class of nannies working there for Cackles husband Dougie.
Just wondering what $25k is going to do for them. What $50 each? Less?
That is a total not per person, they have raised $14k so far.
After throwing away between $1 Billion and $1.5 Billion then have to ask for donations for $25k??
Happy KirkTuesday everyone!
I see there already has been some Kirk Discussion.
I will add to it.
Falcons News: NFL.com says Atlanta thankful for Kirk Cousins
At this point I think the Vikings are thankful Atlanta has Kirk Cousins as well.
Interesting.
NFL.com chooses Brian Flores as the person the Vikings should be most thankful for this Thanksgiving…..Flores over Darnold…..yeah, I get that.
In 8 statistical QB Categories Sam Darnold average ranking is 7th. Kwerk is 17th. For $10 million dollars its a steal and exactly what the team needed. This also goes to show what KOC means to this team more than Kirk did. Would Kirk be in the top 10 in these 8 categories of he was here? Probably. Would he be worth what we were paying him and Atlanta is paying him now? Hell no. And the more time goes on, the more of what I was arguing for years and years on here and the DN is proving more and more correct.
Any injury updates from Sundays game? Pace and Cam? As far as Jones goes… yeah if he comes for the right price why the hell not?
idk why we wouldn’t want Mullens if Darnold goes down…
all the guy does it throw for 1st downs.
He’s 100% accurate, perfect passer rating. Can’t argue with stats.
STATSSSSSSSSSSSSS
but i would be shocked if Jones comes here. He has a WAY better chance of getting to the bowl on the Ravens than with us.
Fart noise
sorry you are gassy today
It’s OK, I’m gassy every day.
https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/falcons-offense-plan-use-more-play-action-kirk-cousins
Seems like a no-brainer to design plays to your player’s strengths.
Duh!
SO many coaches let their ego get in the way. You see this with any profession really. People fall in love with ideas and concepts that are the greatest thing EVER!!!! on paper lol. You have to first deal with reality and coach to who you got not who you want.
Very true. And it’s not like play action all of a sudden became an obsolete type of play.
Amen
It wont matter.
“Short on 4th & 8”
Hunting week is always a busy week around our house. Our second son is the big hunter in the family so he comes up and spends about a week at our house while we hunt on my in-laws land. He is also a much better handyman than I am. Honestly my wife is a better handyman than I am, but that is not part of the story. Anyway, when our son gets here, mom usually has a long list of stuff for him to do. This year we are working on revamping our home office. He has been ripping up carpet, putting legs on desks and next she wants him to help me put together the new tv stand. And we haven’t even gotten to cutting up the downed tree in the yard. The poor kid hasn’t had barely a minute to relax. I keep telling my wife that he is going to stop coming up here if she keeps giving him chores to do.
He shot two does on Sunday so we were cutting those up Sunday night. Now he is mostly buck hunting. He likes to get us and Grammie some venison while he is looking for his big buck.
Sounds like you did an excellent job of raising him.
Thanks. I give most of the credit to mom. But I definitely installed the thrifty mindset that he has.
I like this more than Kirktober.
Samsgiving.
Meh, Sam needs to be better in November to earn a Nickname like that. Sams November QBR was just 60.5 which would rank him 13th overall compared to the season average….Barely above average.
Cousins’ (Kirktober) October QBR however was an excellent 68.5, which would place him 5th in QBR.
I like what Sam is doing, but no nick manes until he plays a bit better.
Why don’t you want Mullens to grow a mullet unless Sam plays better?
I miss ben and his summaries….
Agreed.
Hope he and his are doing well.
Me too. Where’s he ben?
I figured he has been Ben wherever he has been.
The new boss probably won’t let him slack off as much.
He’s coming…….
Would you want him over Mullins as a backup? They turn the ball over at the same rate. Mullins has been in the system a few years now. Meh. I mean, I like the vet minimum aspect.
Put him on the practice squad for the minimum. Tell him he can beat out Mullens and he’s auditioning for next year.
I like it. He has to feel at this point he made his bag (that he largely didnt earn) and that his best bets to stay in the league will be as a very valuable back up.
Even if it’s only for the remainder of this year, why wouldn’t you want to learn from a HC like KOC, you know, a guy who has turned around Sam Darnold’s career? Speaking of which, Sammy is gonna get PAID this offseason. The pending free agent list sucks and the draft isn’t looking nearly as strong as last year.
Yes he will, and it wont be by us. HOWEVER. I feel like a lot of fans would be fine keeping him again, at the right amount. Whats the max you would pay for Darnold on, lets say a 3 year deal, 2 guaranteed, so JJ has more time to heal and learn? I also realize this goes against having a rookie QB on the cheap contract in terms of team construction but lets run the hypothetical anyways.
I would not pay him any more than 15 mill per year. Off the top of my head, I’d say, 12 per year with escalators for starting. If they sign Jones now, then just give him a low contract, similar to Darnold’s current deal since there’s no way Sam is getting less than 30ish, which is around what Geno and Baker are getting (25 and 33 respectively).
Yeah it would have to be under $20 mil a year for me to be OK with it. All those number sound right to me and are probably what he will demand in free agency.
With the number of teams that need a QB and the lack of pending free agents, somebody is going to pay him.
Here’s PFN’s top 10 pending free agent QBs:
1) Sam Darnold, Minnesota Vikings
2) Russell Wilson, Pittsburgh Steelers
3) Justin Fields, Pittsburgh Steelers
4) Jameis Winston, Cleveland Browns
5) Joe Flacco, Indianapolis Colts
6) Jacoby Brissett, New England Patriots
7) Mac Jones, Jacksonville Jaguars
8) Andy Dalton, Carolina Panthers
9) Mason Rudolph, Tennessee Titans
10) Carson Wentz, Kansas City Chiefs
Russ will likely get a new deal. Other than that, woof.
Yeah thats…less than promising. Markets prime for over pays and reaches in the draft. Glad that wont be us.
I could see Wentz being moved up that list a little bit
This is not a potential bird hunting partner list. Wentz will be watching the NFL from ND next season.
Jones will get $5 mil ish
Sam has done well (very well) thus far. A lot will depend on here on out. If we go on to win the SB and he plays big, he’ll be here. And, even if we lose SB but he plays great – other factors cause loss – he’ll be here. But there are a myriad of outcomes in between that will drive this.
Barring a major setback with JJ’s injury, I just don’t see much of a scenario, even with a SB that Darnold is back.
Agreed, 80% chance he’s elsewhere next year.
Short of an MVP season, I don’t think there was really any chance Sam came back unless he played bad enough to not get a deal anywhere else and come back on the cheap.
One, those type of injuries are tricky. Two, JJ is a rookie that hasn’t played one NFL down. And even if JJ turns out OK, rookie QB’s have their ups and downs (note the kid from DC) and even have second year slumps ( guy from Texans).
We are very close right now. Taking on risk not really necessary unless we have to.
If they pay Sam Darnold more than 30 million dollars after drafting a QB in the top 10, TCO needs to be burned down with every member of the management staff inside.
Don’t know about money, but if they let Sam walk and JJ turns out to be a Young or Lawrence, or even worse, there will be a lot of burning
Sam is gone at the end of the year. Just enjoy the ride while it lasts and we’ll see what craziness they cook up next year with JJ.
Don’t count your chickens.
I’m not sure it will burn, it’s mostly concrete, glass, and steel.
Thermite
Agreed. I would be downright shocked if the Vikes make it that far. Id be shocked if they made the NFCCG honestly but, stranger things have happened. The Vikes will have a conundrum if they do make it to the bowl.
I’d be a bit shocked too. But everyone is gaga over the Lions and we stood and played with them all game.
Would have won if KOC would have called better plays on that last possession with 2:30 left to go. You convert one first down and get to the 2 minute warning, you win. That was so frustrating.
Two days into my week off, getting a little stir crazy. Still beats going to work.
I have two properties going through either foreclosure or eviction this week.
One gal has been telling me that the great reset after the Trump election was going to save her house. That didn’t happen.
The other place is interesting. The owner died, and his ex-wife found out he died, she decided to move into his house (even though they weren’t talking). Now she won’t leave. Sheriff’s eviction.
it sucks that it happens during the holidays.
Second one kind of sounds like she has it coming.
Ya, she’s a bit nutty. I think they had been divorced for almost a decade, they weren’t in communication anymore. He died. The ex found out he died, so she decided she’d ‘help him out’ by moving into his house and squatting.
Do you buy these properties, fix them up, and then sell them? Just curious.
They’re owned by the state, and they contract with me to manage them.
When they’re still occupied, I just stopped by and make sure it’s the owner living there and then I fill out the report and send it in. Whenever I talk to the homeowners, I encouraged them to stay in touch with the state and try to get caught up on their payments.
Once the house becomes vacant, I winterize it and then do monthly checks on it to make sure there’s no damage and that it’s in good condition. Basically, keep it in good shape so that it can be sold after it goes through foreclosure.
After the 1-2 year foreclosure process is finished, I clean them out and prepare them for sale.
The good part for us is they hire us (my wife & I are real estate agents) to sell most of them, it’s gotten us over 20 sales in the last year.
That’s a neat business. Since I’m retired, I dabble as a hobby in real estate – small scale, one property a year. It’s fun.
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