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We’re nearing the end of another week, the weekend looms just ahead. I’m ready for one. I’ve been crazy busy with the new business, and the new business is generating a bunch of new listings for us, so my wife is as busy as I am or busier. It’s been a crazy couple of months, it doesn’t seem like we’ve stopped to breathe. We’re both taking the weekend off, much needed.
Man, I’m slipping. I’m normally one of the first people to get Christmas lights up on the house, but this year, I’m way behind the 8 ball. We’ve been so busy with the new business that I haven’t put them up yet. We’re gonna get them done on Saturday, it’s supposed to be 40 with little wind, and there’s no snow/ice on the ground & roof. I think I’m going to rent one of those smaller man-lifts that can be towed behind a pickup. I’m hoping it saves some time, because it’s usually a full day and another partial day to put them all up. I’d love to cut it down to one day somehow, and putting up fewer lights isn’t an option. Go big or go home.
Minnesota Vikings Discussion Topic of the Day
What do you want the Vikings to do as a long-term solution at quarterback? Do you think they have him on the roster? Do you want them to re-sign Kirk (kfey, I know you do)? Do you want them to find him in the draft? Trade? Free Agent? Anyone in particular you fancy at the moment?
Minnesota Vikings News:
The Vikings are evaluating 2024 draft candidate QBs Jayden Daniels and J.J. McCarthy, according to SI.com.
Here’s another one they can look at. Clemson QB Nate Wiggins has decided to leave early and enter the 2024 NFL draft, per ESPN.
A new book, ‘The NFL Off Camera’, spotlights legendary Vikings, from Vikings.com.
At SI.com, Matthew Collier discusses who should be the Vikings starting quarterback.
NFL.com brings you the NFL-wide week 13 NFL injury report.
From CBS Sports, Joe Flacco is taking first team reps and may start for the Browns this week against the Rams.
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Thank you Dallas.
The Vikings gained the sixth seed and can’t screw it up this weekend.
This weekend is Christmas tree and house decorations weekend for us. I have all the presents for my wife and son, just need to wrap them.
My son has a new girlfriend (about two weeks) and I’m trying to decide if I should put something under the tree for her, in case she shows up with him for Christmas. She seems really sweet, but only met her once.
Get her a small gift, that would be a very nice gesture. I’m sure your son would also appreciate it.
Yeah, I think that’s what we’ll do. I’ll ping my wife. She loves buying gifts for people and she’ll know just what to get.
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!
Good morning… it’s December… last month of the year Brent… can’t hold anything back now!
When did Seattle start wearing bright blue jerseys?
Color Rush?
Probably to celebrate the rainbow crowd
It’s their throwback jersey.
Thats what they wore 20 years ago.
I like them way better then the puke green.
Definitely better looking unis than their current ones.
Marketing. Gotta sell more jerseys.
Just read this sentence in a e-novel that threw me.
“Slowly, as if he were handling a live grenade, Joe placed the map gently in his lap.”
Yeah because that is what I want to do with a ‘live grenade’ put it in my lap??
euphemism’s galore here….
I don’t think I would handle a live grenade slowly. It would be thrown far, very fast.
And my Lap would be last place it would go, not even a ‘training grenade’ would be welcome there’.
To be fair.. I think the author was using the live grenade analogy to describe the slowly part. Regardless, it is a poor analogy at best. What kind of harlequin crap are you reading? 🙂
And I know..
This is a good one
https://x.com/HumansNoContext/status/1730147156466520379?t=AR1-WKU9FrOBz5t2N3GOLQ&s=19
Sounds like a trap.
Is it a SFW link??
Guy smacks another guy in head with a can.
Not too bad.
you could tell he was flipping it in his hand to smack him, when he dropped it, i think the idiot trying to kick it made him smack him even more.
both are idiots in this scenario though haha
Looked like he was bored waiting on the cashier and was playing with the can. When the punk went to kick it while he was picking it up he got ‘triggered’ by the disrespect.
I think the punk got schooled, no problem with it although the Police/DA might.
He was literally asking for it.. lol
Vikes/Bengals to be the 1pm Eastern Kickoff on NFL Network on Saturday 12/16
Cool !
Before Monday night, I would have said something. Now will just keep my mouth shut about remainder of games.
Agreed.
Trying to apply Logic or Common Sense to these Viking Games is futile.
Better than having another night game, where I am angry enough after another loss that I cannot go to sleep for hours….
That’s true – early game gives you some time to get it oujt of your system. Late games here on the East Coast are bad for sleeping..
Has there been any Kirk discussion today?
Who?
30 years from now, on my deathbed, I will check in with Skoloholics and I’m sure someone will bring up Kirk.
That will be about the time his heir is getting inducted into the HOF and we will be discussing Kirk as a footnote to the time pre-HOF QB and laughing about how we, or some, thought those were good times.
Some time in the far far future, Cousins is in critical care receiving last rites, and there will be discussions of the future Vikings QB, and Kirk will be brought up.
Since Surly started us out with a MASH gif….
LOL.
I still watch MASH via Hulu
Same. Every once in a while I go on a binge and watch multiple seasons of it again. Love that show.
I watch it almost everyday.
One or two shows a night.
Just finished the final regular episode.
Might watch the 2 hour finale this weekend.
I never thought Goodbye, Farewell and Amen was a good episode. Not as good as the regular shows imo.
Its funny, you’d think with him being gone for the year the daily Kirk debate would end, but no, it continues and will likely go on till the ned of time
It will go on until Kirk signs the next huge contract.
If that contract is with the Vikings, I will be here daily to lament the Kwesi mistake.
If it is with a different team, the only regret would be if that team wins a championship. Brad Johnson and Rich Gannon got their trophy after leaving this team. It can happen again.
Gannon got a trophy?
2003 w the Raiders
Kirk kills kittens and smokes tampons. I have proof.
Do we have to elect you before you’ll share that proof?
Yes.
Fear not. I will be a benevolent leader. Once we get over the initial bloodshed, you will even grow to love me.
I think that sounds like the definition of the anti-Christ.
No discussion, as of yet, just a few people bashing their heads against the wall.
Jackson is dropping some truth bombs.
In truth, it may go on for ever.
I missed the Saints game driving back from SoFl. Got home and came here to read the game thread to see what people thought.
There were like 400 or so posts. One poster jumped in three or four times, and did nothing more than post a sarcastic shit on Cousins post.
No provocation – just a smear job.
WTH.
Some people are obsessed and can’t let it go.
Kirk is living ‘rent free’ in some peoples head.
i would let kirk live rent free at my house, just so i could chat with him anytime i wanted
Not sure I would have enough room given all the other voices in my head.
“Rent Free”. – fsr worse than that. If we could talk politics,I’d tell you what it reminds me of.
TDS?
Yep – differnt variant, same disease
Should we start a charity for the treatment of KDS?
Charity – you know better. Can’t throw money at some of these types of problems
But it will give us some ‘Virtue Signaling Credit’.
Probably wouldn’t even have to use real money as long as we mean well.
I was thinking more along the lines of your Army training and the “protocals” used for the knucleheads.
But the virtue siginaling does have merit.
“protocals” used for the knucleheads”.
You must mean ‘blanket parties’.
Effective! Better than all this liberal BS.
I only participated once, when I was in Basic. Final inspection and I had all of my shit in line. Asked my range buddy if he needed any help, he was the victim of several parties, and he said no. I checked in with him a few times, and he kept telling me no.
Inspection time came, Captain, 1st Sgt, and Drill Sgt come through. They inspect my locker and bed, walk over to his, ask him a couple of questions. I hear my name and Drill Sgt comes over and flips my cot. Found out later he said that he asked me several times for help, but I refused.
Needless to say, my socks were full of bars of soap that night.
yep. this is me.
As long as NLNVF talks about how awesome Kirk is, I will talk about how mediocre he is.
There are people on both sides of the fence that bring kirk up for no reason at times.
Correct.
But it appears that only the “haters” are called out for their posting.
Obviously I didn’t wish injury upon Kirk, but I was kinda ok with him getting hurt because I thought then he wouldn’t be the main topic of discussion everyday, I couldn’t have been more wronger.
He will still be one of the major topics of conversation here next year when his is leading the Peckers to the playoffs for a one and done against San Fran.
The Kirk debate will go on for years after he is gone.
“2nd best QB in Vikings history…
(Except Stu thinks he is the best)
“Kirk should be in the ring of honor”
“If Kirk were still here, this team would go to the owl…..”
I like my version of the future better.
Unless the Packers beat the Niners.
I didn’t look to see which version I was replying to here. I meant the version where we talk about him in 30 years from now as his heir is going into the HOF and laugh about how we thought Kirk was the good times. Kirk winning the SB with the Peckers is not going to happen. If he does not sign with the Vikings he will not sign until somebody’s QB gets hurt or he will be on 1 year deals on shit teams a la Matt Ryan.
Well – heard an interesting SF story last week. Shanahan is like 1-37 when trailing in fourth quarter by 3 and o-33 when by seven. One reason given is he has had QB’s that lack real arm talent and this gets magnified when losing under pressure.
If they lose at the end because Purdy can’t perform late, don’t be surprised.
Rec for the correct use of the word ‘wronger’.
i was crucial in the making of this gif
True!
Ruh-Roh Raggy.
Longtime pregnant girlfriend… How long has she been pregnant?
LOL, that was my question too
People in the media can’t write.
Like…..”An SUV went crashing over the median…..”, as if the driver had nothing to do with it.
Miller’s pregnant and longtime girlfriend…….
Ands and commas are very importanter.
LOL. Yup
Considering some of the family stories on here today, maybe cooking your family is not a bad idea.
First round linebacker inbound.
Link to the tweet.
Tweets by vikingsnationmn
No to Jayden Daniels, he’s a system QB who was garbage before this season and he’s like 190 lbs. I do like McCarthy though. I would also pass on the crybaby that paints his nails.
‘I would also pass on the crybaby that paints his nails.’
Agreed.
Although it may not be an issue since he stated after Utah loss ‘I may not go into the draft, I might just open a Nail Salon’.
LOL
Is this Williams, the dude that cries in mommy’s lap after losing?
Yep. He has to have a mani pedi before every game.
Yeah, and you can call me old fashioned but I don’t want my QB crying to his mommy after losing
Not an ideal quality for an NFL QB, that’s for sure.
Same.
I prefer McCarthy above all others.
I like Maye a bit better than McCarthy but I would like to see either in purple, I’m also intrigued by Deion Sanders kid.
Pretty sure I know what one of the “J”s stand for…
If you want to hide text…..
five years old or fivefingers?
Great minds something, something.
Yes.
Correct answer.
I just had a stock epiphany.
I was doing my business stock reading for the day and Five Below (FIVE) is supposed to be a good buy today.
I bought a little.
My wife buys crap there all the time, in all honesty, with how much she likes to buy stuff, I should just invest in Amazon, Five Below, Zulily, etc.
My wifey is Amazon, Marshalls and Walmart.
I do own Walmart stock.
I forgot about Marshall’s, they (and TJMaxx/Home Goods) have the worst return policy ever. Even if you have your receipt they say you have to have the card you used if you paid by credit, otherwise they will only give you store credit gift card that they write your name on and if your ID doesn’t match the name they won’t let you use it. Anyway, jokes on them because I realized a few months you can actually use any card for a refund and it’ll refund to that card account.
I call The Teacher ‘The Amazon Queen’ due to all of the ‘Gifts’ they bring to the house for her.
I didn’t scroll down far enough. Great minds and stuff.
Five years old or… well, Five?
Fun movie. I haven’t watched it for awhile. Probably one of Harrison Smith’s better performances, although I also liked him in Metropolis from 1927…
you have to admit, he has upped his play this year….
he looks like he is barely 65
He is doing pretty well. Flores seems to play to his strengths.
He just trips the receiver with his walker on every route.
Refs need to let ’em play!
arguably the best movie/sequel combo of all time…
i’d throw father of the bride 1 and 2 into that mix
I would put the first two Rocky’s in as well.
I liked Rocky IV
And Rocky Balboa.
The Creed movies are pretty good too.
I love all the rocky movies except for V. Sly made a lot of good movies, especially ones he wrote himself. He kinda lost his way there for a while in the late 80s and early 90s when he starred in horrible movies like Oscar and Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot, but he got back to doing what he does best with Rocky Balboa, Rambo, The Expendables franchise, and then the Creed movies. Between Rocky, Rambo, and The Expendables franchises, almost all of which he either wrote and/or directed, he’s probably the most successful filmmaker in terms of film franchises. I thought he was really good in Cop Land too.
Alien and Alien with Space Marines.
I would have to say the biggest surprise this year has been the defensive turnaround.
Flores is a miracle worker.
Yup. I’m wondering if there’s any way we keep him. Gotta think he’s a candidate for open jobs at the end of the year.
I’m more surprised by how pedestrian the offense has been
Agree to some degree. But the obvious answer is the drive killing turnovers.
If we could just stop…lol. Who am I kidding. We are gonna keep on a turning it over and losing cause we suck.
Yeah, I mean take out the bad plays and the offense is the best in the NFL.
But…if you take out the good plays they are the worst.
Doomer!
Ready to trade him to the Chargers for their HC?
that guy must have something on the owner.
Just wait until he finally gets fired and his good buddy Kevin hires him as DC.
Their defense is horrible!
I bet you 10000 Schrute bucks this will happen unless Flores isn’t offered a HC position somewhere.
what’s the ratio of schrute bucks to stanley nickels
Oh God – he’s terrible, may be like the Easy Ed category.
Flores is unlikely to be hired until his lawsuit against the NFL is settled, or maybe he gets offered every open job in the offseason so the NFL can say his suit is invalid, IDK.
If he leaves the Vikings get a comp pick because of racism so at least there’s that.
I believe he has to be here for two years, or maybe he has to stick with the next team for two years. Not sure which way it goes.
You’re right, he has to be here for 2 years
Lol… just denied a call from the Plymouth County Jail (Iowa) – my sister was arrested for assaulting her girlfriend. Good. Hope they throw the book at her.
LOL, WTF
Legit all I can do is laugh….
I went thru that for awhile when a Niece had a ‘boyfriend’ who was in prison for a few months.
@fun times@
our families are SO different hahahaha
Indeed. I have two sisters, both younger. The recently arrested is the middle child, a career criminal who I had been estranged from for 15 years until recently. My baby sister, the youngest of us all is a wonderful person and mother who had her own issues in her early 20’s but has turned into an incredible human on the cusp of her 40’s. I love them both, but desire to only see the baby and to never lay eyes on the middle child again.
‘love them both’
So a ‘Love but not Like’ situation for the Middle Sibling?
I had issues growing up, who didn’t. I didn’t think it was anything special until I heard about the ‘Middle Child Syndrome’.
But then I got busy with Real Life and forgot about it. Lost out on my Chance at Real Victimhood.
Pretty much. I can’t really begin to describe how awful my sister is. Here’s a shot:
When my mom was diagnosed with cancer she was fearful of leaving behind a bunch of debt so she cashed her 401k in early and paid bills for her treatment as they came (good insurance, but still but everything was covered) she also gave large monetary gifts to both of my sisters. She offered it to me several times and I didn’t take it – not that I didn’t need it, it just didn’t feel right – she was dying and scared and how do I dare profit from that? Well my middle sister did. And then asked for more. Again and again. Then the cancer went into remission and tax time came and as it turns out my mother was unaware of the penalties and fines that would incur from pulling her 401k – she was on a lot of drugs at that time – so the IRS decided to kick my parents in the teeth to the tune of a $35,000 penalty. After a handful of attorneys, accountants and one local politician went to bat for her the fine was reduced to a manageable $3,000.. but lesson learned and she cut off the tap. Now I didn’t take any money so it didn’t affect me and my baby sister offered to pay my mother back. What did middle sis do? Doubled down. Asked for more. Said they clearly had it, would be hers eventually thru inheritance and if she ever wanted to see her grandchildren again she’d fork over the cash – I was standing in my mothers office when she took that call on speakerphone.
Your sister sounds like an addict. Addicts will do or say just about anything for their next fix.
My aunt was similar. She did all she could to ‘milk’ my grandmother. My mom was the Executor of my Grandmothers will so she just kept all the receipts and when it was time to disperse the ‘inheritance’ she subtracted all of that from her total.
Yeah, she (and her daughter) were a piece of work. I say ‘were’ because we have had no contact with them since then.
She sounds nice.
I will say I don’t really like the “did not know there was a penalty for early withdrawal of a 401(k)” line but I’m happy her penalty was reduced.
I’m certain she knew…. it’s made pretty clear to anyone with a 401k that there’s a penalty – I don’t think she knew the penalty would be so severe and I don’t think she thought she’d be alive to deal with it and that whatever the penalty was there was life insurance to cover it and the benefit of giving out the cash short term outweighed (in her mind, anyway) the costs/penalties.
That’s awful. So sorry to all of you who’ve had similar issues with siblings.
After reading your stories, I’m going to make a real effort to stop complaining about controlling sister. She’s a narcissist, know it all, right about everything, so I can only be around her in small doses. However, she takes care of her own stuff and has never been an addict or in any kind of trouble.
Yeah, I have issues with my sisters as well. The older one, middle child, lives 15 minutes away from me but hasn’t spoken to me directly in 6 years, I’ve called, texted, send cards, etc. but she won’t respond and has never met my children aged 4 and 1 despite living 10 miles away from me. We used to be very close, I lived with her when I moved back to MN 7 years ago but once I got married and moved out she just cut off all communication and blocked me on everything. My younger sister is just a complete spoiled brat who has literally been given everything she has ever asked for by my parents (technically she is my half sister and the only child of my stepmom), though at least she speaks to me, so there’s that.
I’m in the little contact with my sisters club as well. They both live in Calgary and often talk of coming to visit me but to this point in my life it is only if I travel to them that I see them…plus I have to put in the effort even when I’m in the city to go see them wherever works best for their busy schedules. My half sister is older and I didn’t meet her until I was in my 40’s, she is very sweet but there’s not a lot of common ground to discuss, and my sister is 10 years younger than I and has always harbored a grudge that I left home for college when I was 17 and she was 7.
Werid I had a very similar situation when I was about 25 I learned I had a half brother 11 years older than me that my family never had anything to do with, shortly after he was born his maternal grandparents adopted him and my dad never spoke of him to any of us kids. I thought about reaching out a couple years ago but found out he’d actually passed away due to complications with diabetes, which apparently he’d struggled with since early childhood.
But good on you for not enabling. It can be tough. I know I enabled behaviors of my drunken ex by swooping in and saving her drunken ass way too many times.
But sometimes you just have to let them lay in the bed they made.
My ongoing family drama is I have a cousin who is staying at my grandmas in a SHITTY old broken down camper that is really her dads. Her dad has had 3 strokes and lives in the house with grandma. Cousin and her boyfriend stole thousands of dollars from her dad and replaced the money they stole with fake bills. Didn’t think he’d notice, well he went to deposit it. He for some reason wouldn’t deposit until he had a bunch of money, saved him trips into town. Grandma won’t kick her ass out because she lives in that damn camper with like 4 or 5 kids (none of which are the boyfriends kids). Boyfriend not long ago stole a Harley from a dealership while leaving his dogs in the car in the heat of the day, drove it out to my grandparents and left the bike hidden in the woods, small grove between my parent’s house and my grand parents. Grandma needs to kick her ass off her property damnit. We keep telling her to but she won’t.
Yuck. All of that sounds familiar.
One Thanksgiving dinner my FIL (RIP) got that call from one of his daughters. Said can’t help you. That would be hard but I told him good job.
Family drama sucks.
i leave for like 5 minutes and come back to slush and buttjamin super mad at eachother.
come on guys.
‘I leave for like 5 minutes and come back to slush and buttjamin super mad at eachother’
So you admit it was your fault.
most things are….
I ain’t mad at no one, eggslusher is “irritated” with me though because I mentioned things KOC said and the current depth chart.
YOU ARE SO MAD
what was it you wanted me to make a gif of from the Brick Tamland “loud noices” clip?
Anyone got the replay of the last run play we ran on second down?
Ingram and O’Neil cleared a huge whole, and there was only the safety to beat….then I believe Risner (maybe Bradbury?) Blew their block and fucked it all to oblivion.
I’ll see if I can find it again.
I just watched it once, and it made me sad.
Risner really had a shitty game run blocking on a few plays I rewatched.
The guys got some energy, but he needs to play better if we are going to run the ball with any success.
Risner is not great at run blocking, he’s good at pass blocking
But have you seen his karate kick?
Ok. I do sorta like the guy. Plus, I really liked a hat he was wearing in an interview enough to order one.
It’ll look good with my Dobbs jersey I ordered.
Dobbs and Risner apparel
I like.
Gotta rep the super stars.
Don’t hold any babies when wearing the Dobbs jersey though.
We seem to have a great many plays where several guys block well, but someone either whiffs of allows to much penetration.
You only need one or two guys to win completely at the point of attack, and everyone else to just get a stalemate and your running game will thrive. When any of the 5 O-lineman lose their match-up and get beaten, plays get blown up.
Correct. If someone finds it, please repost. Mattison probably thought he had just seen the pearly gates part open, then boom! Hit hard from the back left.
Damn….
Shane MacGowan, lead singer of The Pogues dead at 65.
’I love you til the end’ is the song my wife and I chose for our first dance.
Damn! is right. Oof.
Never heard of him or them, I’ll give that song a listen.
Did you watch ‘The Wire’? The scenes where they would have a funeral service for dead officers at the bar the song they sang was ‘The Body of an American…’ by The Pogues. Great band.
Yeah I have seen The Wire all the way through a couple times and I remember that song.
‘But 15 minutes later we had our first taste of whiskey
There was uncles giving lectures on ancient Irish history
The men all started telling jokes and the women, they got frisky
By five o’clock in the evening every bastard there was piskey….’
Pogues were heavily influenced by the Beatles.
Neither would exist if not for Mattison’s fumble in the Broncos game.
RIP
well my tax guy is retiring (he just did it on the side, his other job is more important apparently)
looks like i just wont be doing my taxes from here on out
Obvious solution.
If you. have the right political affiliation, you’ll be fine.
H&R block allegedly sells your personal data without your consent, just an FYI
My wife started doing our taxes last year, and she actually seems pretty good at it.
So, I basically can expect the IRS to come and arrest me one of these days, can’t it?
If Hunter can do it, so can you.
Danielle is retiring or doing his own taxes?
or as RG3 calls him…. Daniel.
RG3 just sucks, I can’t stand him
Fun fact, I have always done my/our taxes but this is probably going to be my first year not doing something as I have some oil gas depletion allowance or some such crap that will not be ready by April 15, etc…
I have visions of the CPA either bursting out in laughter or tears.
Been doing my own since my CPA 10+ years ago told me he just uses the version of Turbo Tax for CPA’s. Nice enough to review my returns for a couple years to make sure I did nothing crazy. He must have figured out he had gouged me enough.
No issues. I hate quickbooks, but that plus Turbo Tax makes things easier for small business things.
quickbooks is ass
Since I started my business, I let someone else do my taxes. At least I can write it off as a business expense.
I hate the cowboys for a myriad of obvious reasons (Drew Pearson pushed off for 1).
But the cowboys winning tonight is a bigger help for the Vikings playoff chances.
Of course, if Dobbs fumbles away 3 more games it will not matter.
I am ready for KOC to declare who the QB will be moving on….
Dobbs will throw picks or fumble, guaranteed. Reading the tea leaves from KOC’s pressers it will be Mullens starting after the bye. Speaking of which I hate the bye week, waiting sucks
Why Mullens? Why not Hall? What does Mullens give us that Hall doesn’t? Is there a possibility we run with Mullens next year as our starter? FUCK NO! Is there a possibility we run with Hall next year as our starter, not likely but who knows, he’s a rookie…
I don’t know if you can’t read or what, but I said its based on what KOC has said at his pressers, also, the depth chart has Mullens as QB2 and Hall as QB3. It really doesn’t matter though as they are all backup caliber players.
I can read, it just irritates me. Well Dobbs has proven he’s a backup caliber player so has Mullens in their career. Hall hasn’t. So why not give him a shot? Clearly thought he was the best choice before his injury.
If it irritates you take it up with KOC, I would rather they just run Hall out there because he sucks and the teams going nowhere anyway, also glad to know you’re not one of the illiterates working with Lifer at the balloon factory.
Quitter…
Kinda, I think Mullens probably gives the team the best chance to win but IMO the difference between him and Dobbs is negligible, Mullens throws picks but doesn’t fumble all the time and he can’t run, Hall probably sucks and is at best a backup but why not just roll him out there, this team isn’t a contender for anything meaningful and if Hall is horrible just bench him for Mullens.
^^this….
Because it’s professional football and you have 53 guys in the locker room that expect the coach to put the best players on the field to win the game – especially if you’re still in the playoffs.
Even if we have 0.000 chance of winning the SB, players play to win the game.
OK, don’t ever get mad on a message board about anything then about the Vikings because just know you should just take it up with KOC instead of expressing frustration. Can’t wait to use that reply back against you and see if you really believe in what you preach.
LOL, IDK what’s wrong with you. I simply said that based on KOCs comments it seems like Mullens would start over Hall and it apparently “irritated” you, like I said, if KOCs comments irritate you take it up with him stuflake.
LOL
ha!
Just pointing out it’s stupid on a message board where we are usually expressing displeasure to say take it up with the HC because no on here has power is just silly. We express frustration on here, you’re the one took it as I was attacking you ya Stuflake.
I said take it up with KOC because I was just parroting what he said, not advocating for it. If you take what he’s said and look at the depth chart Mullens is ahead of Hall, I wasn’t saying I would prefer to see Mullens play over Hall, just that it looks like that’s what the coaching staff thinks. Your issue is not with me, its with KOC, I’d rather see Hall.
Mullens has been much better at throwing the ball in his career than Dobbs ever has. Mullens has thrown for a ton of yards and TD’s as a starter. He has also thrown a ton of interceptions though. The question is, has he learned enough from being around Cousins and KOC to make fewer mistakes with ball? If so, he could do enough on offense to let the defense carry the day.
Maybe because we are still in playoff race and KOC thinks Mullens gives us best chance of winning next game.
Back to plain Jane offense where the defense doesn’t have to worry about the QB running so they can focus on totally stopping the run game. Awesome.
Really. – go ask the Niners. with their half assed defense how they liked playing against our “plain Jane offense.”
Do you think the Niners were worried about our running game?
Its not like the Vikings were great offensively in the SF game, they scored all of 22 points despite a bunch of SF turnovers.
We punted one time (I’d have gone for it). That’s the best D in the league. We have no running game, and they couldn’t stop lour offense.
The Cowboys have a great scoring offense – how’d they do against the Niner defense?
And As I remember, Cousins slightly over threw JA in endzone and Mattison ran a stupis route in endzone, costing us more points. But that’s minuta.
A top 5 offense scores more than 22 points, especially when the other team turns it over 3 times, but you believe whatever homer delusions you want.
Would top 10 make you feel better? Does thst really matter.
Where are Dallas and Jacksonville ranked in offense? How much did they score against that defense?
Dallas is #1 in the NFL in ppg, not sure on Jax, but both teams are better than the Vikings.
And the Niner defense just destroyed both of those offenses.
Well, they’d actually have a QB who can function without fumbling or throwing a pick every other play as well but hey, who cares about that.
Dobbs is a dual threat QB….to the Vikings!!!!!!
LOL, so true, he’s a threat to fumble or throw a pick every play
If you watch Dobbs on a typical pass play, he sets up really deep…like 10ish yards back and holds the ball longer than Kirk did.
He has a tendency to try and bail out by running back and then to a sideline. Denver figured out how to pressure and contain him late in the game, and Chicago capitalized on it.
Chicago schemed this well.
Statistically, Sweat gave O’Neil one of his worst pass blocking games.
But if you watch a few replays Sweat would just line up wide and run to the 10-12 yard mark where Dobbs would be at.
It was very difficult for O’Neill to get out that far and make that block.
Sweat is a good player, but most teams have a speedy edge who can out rub O’Neill on a really deep drop.
We countered in the second by running through the tackle and got nice gains. But unfortunately the tape is out on how to pressure and contain Dobbs.
Chicago is one of the worst pressure defenses, and they looked like one of the best.
The line didn’t have their best game, but some is on Dobbs.
O’Neill needs to up his rub game
My phone just assumes I’m rubbing things. Especially if out is anywhere near it.
A familiar senario – RGlll and Colin Kaepernick come to mind. Defenses do watch film.
In addtion…a QB who mostly stands in the pocket waiting for a play to develop before throwing.
He did. But at the time Hall was named starter we had just acquired Dobbs, Mullens was still hurt so KOC’s options were Hall or Mannion. I think Hall being EQB last week is a pretty clear indicator of the pecking order. I’m guessing Mullens starts going forward. I’d rather see Hall – but Minny still in contention – not exactly time to ‘see what you got…’
I forgot about Mullens injury.
Hall was not the best option before his injury. He was the only option. Mullens was hurt and Dobbs had just arrived. I guess they could have started Tanner Morgan, that would have been fun.
I forgot about Mullens on IR.
They also had MANNION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wiped that memory from my brain. If I ignore it, it didn’t happen.
Yeah, my two most favorite teams growing up were the the Washington Redskins, and whoever was playing the Cowboys. I still hate them. I think they’ll win tonight though and help us.
KOC is busy putting together a boat ride for the players.
Til Tuesday on a Thursday. Close enough…
Hey BSF, in response to your question yesterday, I was in Uppsala back in July. We were just passing through however, so we were only there for a few hours. We had been in Örebro, the area where my great-grandmother grew up, and were heading back to Stockholm. We took a little detour to go through Uppsala because my sister wanted to stop at the university and talk genealogy with someone. After that we had lunch with a pastor from our church organization at a neat little restaurant and then we went and toured the Swedish National Cathedral, which is beautiful. As it is in any of the cities in Sweden, parking is a nightmare. However, once we stopped at the pastor’s apartment, we were able to walk to the restaurant and to the cathedral. If you are going to be there a week, you could probably rent a bike. There were lots and lots of bikes in the section of town that we were in.
BSF loves biking for myriad reasons, also I’m going to downsala this comment for your street cred
Yes!!! Street Cred!!!
Also, I was going to add a few pictures of Uppsala, but I would have to resize them and ain’t nobody got time for that.
I tried to give you both thumbs up and thumbs down. Stupid programmers will not let me like a comment yet still provide street cred.
I do like biking.
Got that new South park bike.
Thanks for the info!
I’m about 95% sure it’s about to get denied.
I got follow up questions and there’s really not legitimately good reasons I need to go since the company has local reps that can bring out demos onsite.
I’m really tempted to just put “I like to party” as my responses.
Pictures of homeless guys cocks from sweden would really improve your portfolio.
Good morning.
My QB choice for next year?
Not Kirk.
It would be nice to get more work in for Hall, to see if he can become a decent starter.
Dobbs is a backup. I am fine if he is on the roster as a backup, but if they start next September with him as the starter, the hope will be over before the season starts.
If they start the season with Kirk as the starter, we know he will put up good numbers, get sacked too often, and make a boneheaded play in a playoff game to end the season.
We want something else (MASH reference for old people)
I seriously doubt Cousins will be a Viking next year. Folks who are discontented with him will get their wish. I do think this year, with the defense starting to really flourish, and Cousins producing TD’s at a higher rate than pretty much all the other QB’s in theague, the Vikings actually might could have made it to the Super Bowl. Definitely not the odds on favorite of course, but think the 2007 Giants, who backed into the playoff’s and won three playoff games on the road, and then beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Technically the Vikings could still pull off a season like that, but I don’t think we have a QB on the roster who can get the job done. Cousins definitely could have in my opinion though.
I think Super Bowl would be a huge stretch with this team after the 0-3 start.
With or without Kirk.
While the defense is playing well above the talent on the roster, breakdowns happen, and eventually the team would have to face a very good QB that would tear them apart, or a smothering defense that would dominate the game.
Both O line and D line seem to disappear too often.
There are too many holes to fill on this roster, and next season I will be complaining about JJ’s inflated contract as the reason for those gaps in talent.
I agree with you on those fronts, but the 2007 Giants had a similar situation. No one thought they would win a single playoff game, much less win the Super Bowl. But they did.
I’m saying I think they “could have” won the Super Bowl this year with Cousins. I say that because of the defense, and because Cousins was playing at a very high level. Whether or not folks like it, Cousins is one of the best QB’s in the league. Since he came to the Vikings in 2018 and through 2022, only three QB’s in the league threw more TD’s than Cousins. The Vikings have had a top shelf QB under center for them for the last 6 seasons. They will be very lucky if they find a replacement that can match him.
The front office failed to provide what Kirk needs to succeed. A dominating O line. Kirk’s massive contracts have been part of that reason, and GMs being bad at drafting / bringing in talent is the other part.
Ummmm that seems like a false narrative completely to me. Cousins has been the most productive QB over a 5 year span in Vikings history, despite the poor O-lines in front of him. Could he have done more behind a better line? Absolutely. But the weak running game and defense has been the Achilles heel of this team, not the QB. The team has invested MANY draft picks on the defense and the O-line that have not panned out. Bradberry leaps to mind…
No, under scrutiny, your narrative doesn’t hold water. Cousins “massive” contract has not held this team back. Bad drafting and bad play by the O-line and the defense (as well as the worst kicker in the league) are the reasons the Vikings have not won more games.
His Lombardi trophy shelf will remain empty, unless he is backup for some team that makes it.
Maybe, but Cousins is a starter, not a back-up… that’s for certain.
Yep.
Kirk will be very well paid next season.
I still think he ends up a Viking. I just hope they still draft someone next year for future, and find out this season if Hall can become above average.
Yeah, I wonder about the Vikings future now. I really doubt KAM will bring Cousins back. Thus, where do we go from here? I see no QBOTF on the team at the moment.
On that we are in agreement.
With Cousins injury and the dynamics around the timing of everything and free agents, I think there is a reasonable chance Cousins is re-signed. If Kirk didn’t get hurt, I would absolutely agree that Cousins would be gone.
The injury has changed everything.
Kirk Retires = 35%
Kirk Re-Signs = 33%
Kirk plays elsewhere = 32%
” Failed to provide”. – how much more do ewe need. We fumbled our way to some early losses. After that, we got on track and played solid football. We played Chiefs tough, beat the Niners and really dominated the Packers . Offense was top 5 at that point and defense was really getting their act together.
No body has everything, but we were in a solid position.
I always love the, “if Kirk insert reason here, we could make a run….” type of statements.
He has had 10 years, and has never made a run.
Why people hang on to this hope, I have no idea.
I won’t allow myself to accept false hope.
He’s made runs in his pants…
The post wasn’t actually about Cousins – it was pointing out the offense was good when playing with a quality starting QB. You can substitute a another similar QB and get the results.
You and your Cousins hate.
True that you didn’t mention Cousins.
But you responded to NLNVF lovefest over Cousins. Based on your response, I kind of assumed you agreed with him.
It’s not unreasonable to say if we cleaned up the turn overs we could make a run.
We beat San Fran.
We could have easily beaten the Eagles and Chiefs.
JJ reaching for a TD after a 40 yard catch was enough to win the game if he doesn’t fumble it.
I get it. You hate Kirk. But he played well enough to win in those games.
LOL.
So It’s “Cousins hate” to point out that over 10 years Cousins has never made a serious superbowl run?
You and anybody else will never be able to prove the “if Cousins had this, we would win more…..” take.
If that is considered hate, so be it.
I don’t think ‘pointing it out’ = hate.
I think pointing out KC negatives time after time every time anything QB related comes up shows a distinct narrative of bias against KC.
Well, I don’t think a team with Kirk will ever make a serious run based on 10 years of history.
That’s a bias against KC. Yep. I’m guilty.
Plenty of people think if only A,B,C….and Kirk takes us to a bowl and making those claims over and over for 6 years.
That is a bias that can’t be proven in favor of KC.
There are bias’ on both sides.
There have been average QBs who have made it to the SB (and won) with a good team and Good QBs who never made it (Dan Fouts for example).
So a QB is part of the equation but not all of it.
Since KC is part of the team still (allegedly) spitballing a way to get the team there is not unrealistic.
Poo-pooing every mention of QB by ‘sharing your opinion’ gets old.
You are entitled to your opinion and have the right to share it. And others have the right to point out your bias and that the repetition gets old.
Not disputing that at all.
You are entitled to your opinion and have the right to share it. And others have the right to point out your bias and that the repetition gets old.
Hang the banner at the end of the season
agree with this.
“could” make a run.
Most likely, another first round collapse vs an inferior team.
Since….Vikings.
Kirk
Know you guys love the Cousins raz, but that aside, has there ever been at team with the 31st ranked defense win a playoff game, let alone even get there.
The offense was never top 5 but keep trying to delude yourself, lol.
I read it here, on this site a few days ago. I have personally no idea of the actual number – just use eyeball test.
I don’t know what metric was used, but the offenses purpose is to score points, they’ve been in the 22 ppg area all year, including when
jesus christ on a football fieldKirk Cousins was playing, which puts them right in the middle of the pack, or another way to put it is average. Even when JJ and Kirk were playing it was 22 ppg, or again, average.Do you suppose early in the year with all our fumbles and drops had somethiing to do with that number
With our “average” offense, four fumbles and no running game, how did we put 28 on the Eagles?
And later, playing our first couple of games without JJ (we won though) think tht might have affected our offense refinding it’a footing?
Football is totally situatiional.
Yeah, take out the bad plays and the offense is elite
No, not elite – just very good.
They’ve been average all year despite who is playing.
The Vikings had zero chance at making the SB with Cousins, in fact they had a losing record while he was playing. Not saying its his fault, but they were 3-4 when he went down, so yeah, nowhere near SB caliber team. I’m not sure what is in the cards for Kirk moving forward, but it would not shock me if he somehow re-signed with the Vikings.
They were 4-4 after the Packer game, so they were 3-4 going into it. The reasons for the losses early in the year were clearly turnovers, so they were anomalies. Our turnover rate was somewhat unfathomable. Cousins threw for 9 TD’s and 1,075 yards in the first three games.
Now, in the part of the season where the Vikings are playing weaker opponents and the defense is shining, I feel strongly we would have won the last four games going away, and the Vikings would be sitting at 8-4 under Cousins. The next couple games would be extremely winnable, setting the Vikings up to go into the last three games at 10-4. With Cousins and the defense playing well, I think we win the last three, go 13-4, win the Division, and have a chance in the playoff’s to make some noise.
None of that reasoning is hugely flawed. The Vikings were just starting to surge when Cousins went down. I think they would have gotten better and better as the games went on.
Since this kind of arguments are sort of who really knows, but my 2 cents.
Think the Niners and Eagles are the class of the league (No Cowboys).
We played both of these teams. Hung with both despite four fumbles against Eagles and Flores finding his defense. Niners, well we beat them and their great defense didn’t seem to have answers for our offense (without JJ).
As Tom Brady recently said, the most talented team doesn’t win, the team that plays the best football does.
The way our offense was playing, coupled with the surge in our defense, we would have been a tough play for anyone in the playoffs.
That’s how I see it.
NVF likey Kirk?
Also new take.
Pretty sure I’d we just rehash this one more time, you two will come to a consensus.
I only saw MASH reruns because I was not born during its original airing but I love that show.
Also, the starting QB for next season is not currently on the active roster for the Vikings, Dobbs, Mullens, Hall are not starting NFL QB caliber. My hope is the Vikings draft someone.
So they should draft a QB, and re sign Kirk on a two year deal so the rookie can learn? That or roll with a rookie.
I would probably just roll with the rookie, I wouldn’t sign Kirk to anything more than a 1 year deal, actually now that I’m thinking about it, I’d probably sign a cheaper bridge QB like Mayfield or Minshew to compete with the rookie.
Well that sounds like resigning ourselves to no chance at being good for awhile.
IDK about that, the Colts with Minshew are in the same playoff position as the Vikings and they have nowhere near the skill position talent the Vikings do. I don’t know if it was just alliteration that I picked Mayfield and Minshew but they were just the first two off the top of my head. Kirk may not even play the first month of the season so re-signing him is a crapshoot.
They both suck.
So do all the current Vikings QBs on the roster.
KAM isn’t re-signing Cousins…
IDK, I don’t think Kirk will have massive offers because of the timing of his injury and the recovery timeframe, I could see them working something out, I could also see Kirk’s agent telling KAM to ESFOD.
Cousins will be recovered in about 8 weeks and able to play well before March. Not sure where your logic is coming from?
Regardless, Achilles injuries are not the death knell for QB’s that they might be for other positions on the field. Especially for pocket passers. Cousins does not beat defenses with his feet, he beats them with his brain and arm talent. Much like Brady, he can play well into his 40’s if he chooses to do so.
Might not beat defenses with his feet, but he needs that right leg to be able to throw with power and that muscle on the back of the bottom half of his leg is pretty integral to that power. It should really be connected on both ends and healed properly. I think Rodgers’ is his left leg so less of an issue. Kirk’s is his right so needs to be fully healed or pop goes the weasel.
Well the history of recovering and playing is much longer than you claim.
Will Dissly from 2020.
https://www.seahawks.com/news/seahawks-te-will-dissly-passes-physical-rb-rashaad-penny-opens-camp-on-pup-list
I highly doubt Cousins can even pass a physical before June. So Cousins ability to sign a big contract is going to be limited. I doubt any team signs him until he passes a physical. Therefore, the Vikings are probably the favorite to re-sign Cousins.
Being healed and playing are two different things.
An achilles rupture is typically a year long recovery, a tear like O’neill had last year is more of a 6 monthish recovery.
and that would be crazy. At the point Cousins got hurt, we were top five in Offense, defense was really getting their act together, and OL was showing signifigant improvement,
With all that going for you, why throw away next year?
Bullshit, the Vikings were nowhere near a top 5 offense while Kirk was playing, they were averaging 21 ppg with him which wasn’t even top 10, in fact they’ve averaged more ppg since he got hurt.
Bullshit !!. Maybe not at first with all the fumbles and drops, but the last couple of games they were rolling – like Niners and Packers. Neither of those defenses – and one is probably the best in the league – had answers to our offenses (without JJ). With JJ coming back, it would have gotten even better.
PPG – Dallas is great at that. But how many do they score when they play the NIners defense?
So they scored 22 points at home against a SF team that turned the ball over several times and somehow that makes them a top 5 offense, lol hang the banner.
Pick your number – I don’t care.
How many teams move the ball successfully against that defense?
Cowboys couldn’t, Jax couldn’t.
And we traded TO’s early and Purdy threw two at end.
Surly no likey Kirk?
That’s a new take.
Its really shocking.
Rec for a MASH reference.
M*A*S*H autorec.
It’s a bit early. I was working late & just posted it now instead of scheduling it.
Good night.
Good morning. SKOL!
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!