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Last night Michigan defeated Washington 34-13. Michigan pretty much bullied Washington the whole game, they were much, much more physical. In a much anticipated matchup of QBs, neither McCarthy nor Penix were particularly impressive, Penix was really not great, he completed 27/51 for 255 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTS. McCarthy was a fairly pedestrian 10/18 for 140 yards 0 TDs and 0 INTs. The difference in the game was in the trenches. Michigan rolled up 303 yards on 38 carries and just destroyed Washington’s front 7, especially early and late. The Michigan front 7 completely shut down any run game from Washington and were able to get some pressure on Penix. It was exciting early, then boring until early in the 4th quarter. Congrats to Michigan.
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They suck. The end.
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10 January thread is up…
I want the cowpokes to completely trash the pukers.
And the rams to beat loins
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!
Happy Hump Day!
There should probably be a warning in big bold letters that this is “FREE FOR ALL TUESDAY.”
Or is it “FREE-FOR-ALL TUESDAY”?
Or I suppose we could bring up the comma question again.
“FREE, FOR ALL TUESDAY.”
“FREE FOR ALL, TUESDAY.”
“FREE FOR, ALL TUESDAY.”
Make it a bold declaration.
Free. For. All. Tuesday!!
Reporters in DC joke about assassinating Trump.
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1744764195751752046
Probably CNN…but could easily be ABC, NBC, CBS, Washington Post or New York Times….
Scum of the earth, all of them.
18 U.S. Code § 879 – Threats against former Presidents and certain other persons
(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully threatens to kill, kidnap, or inflict bodily harm upon—
(1) a former President or a member of the immediate family of a former President;
(2) a member of the immediate family of the President, the President-elect, the Vice President, or the Vice President-elect;
(3) a major candidate for the office of President or Vice President, or a member of the immediate family of such candidate; or
(4) a person protected by the Secret Service under section 3056(a)(6);
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
Will go unpunished. If they keep it up vigilante justice is going to become the norm, we’re going back to the wild west.
Just listened to it, what absolute scum…I wonder if the secret service will open an investigation for an alleged assignation plot.
Nope. No biggie. Perfectly fine to threaten the enemy.
Disgusting. Can’t help worrying that the corrupt intelligence deep state might actually do this, just like they did to JFK and RFK.
They will not allow Trump to be President.
I believe this with every bone in my body.
Terrifying.
You have to watch out for those open mikes.
So in my opinion, none of the CB’s on the team were really very good. I guess Murphy was the best corner we had. The rest I would dump and start all over. We need to have bigger, more physical corners. Honestly, watching our DB’s try and tackle (or not) was mind numbingly pathetic this year. KAM needs to fix that in the off-season.
More current events.
Defense Secretary in the hospital and doesn’t tell anyone. And the media is unconcerned about the nuclear codes and Biden.
Love how this site just drop you.
Need to upgrade the Palm Pilot, chief.
The Raiders and the Redskins are looking at 49ers Assistant GM Adam Peters to fill their vacant GM positions. Hope Mr Peters goes to Washington.
Curse of Oak Island is on tonight
Spoiler
They don’t find the treasure…
STOP SPOILING IT!!!!
A current event – happening today.
Some folks earlier mentioned things are messed up.
Saw Trump is in court, DC Court of Appeals, to hear his immunity case,
Court is most liberal in country. 3 Judges – 2 Obama appointees and 1 older Bush(moderate).
Trump will lose.
But if case was heard in Texas Court, he might easily prevail.
We have a wonderful nonpartial Judiciary.
The liberals “legislating from the bench” to destroy Trump is amongst the biggest threats to this country I’ve ever seen. Judges are making up law as they go to try and convict Trump of something… anything… that would prevent him from running. Even if he has never broken an existing law. They are altering laws, after the fact, and trying to convict him.
He is an existential threat and nothing is out of line. Democracy is on the line and must be protected at all costs.
Laughing… that’s the ticket!
Sort of depends which part of democracy.
We don’t like a Supreme Court decision – no problem, let’s pack the court.
We can’t get our stuff thru Congress – no problem, let’s eliminate philabuster.
We want to get certain folks locked up- no problem let’s eliminate due process.
And then there’s sending FBI after parents at school board meetings, we don’t need parents to get involved with kids education.
I’m getting tired. Does seem democracy is indeed on the ballot.
Couldn’t agree more. I was being facetious up top with Bow… whom I think was also being facetious.
I know – I just really have the ass at Biden given that hate crap he was pushing last week.
Have you noticed that is literally ALL the Dem’s have done since 2017? Go on, and on, and on, trying to denigrate and destroy Donald Trump… and in the process gone deeper and deeper into the ethical and moral abyss?
For sure.
100%, and I still know people who believe every lie they’re told by legacy media and government.
They don’t call TV “programming” for nothing.
In case anyone needs to know, my personal spreadsheet hell continues.
Oh well…it’s really to the point where we just need to pull the trigger and fix the irregularities individually. Gordian Knot that bad boy!
Just start over.
Press the Easy Button or call for the Geico reptile.
Sounds like me when I try to true up my tax worksheets.
As a boring aside, I/we had planned to use my CPA buddy this year to do my taxes, as I have some pass through profits on an oil/gas entity. This would mark the first time I have not done my own taxes. One problem is that the K-1 may not come out until after April 15 so I would need to file an extension.
Anyhow, I forwarded him last year’s return (mind he has lampooned my beep boop approach to TurboTacker for more than a decade) and shockingly he called me and said he had reviewed the return and found no errors, and grudgingly said I did not need him to do my taxes, as he would help me with the extension and pass through. Said while my return had many facets none of them were overly complicated and I was paying my fair share.
where have I heard this before??
And here is the takeaway from the article for those to lazy to click on it.
The article is obviously written by Surly.
Forno does not look like a 60 year old man
Since it is Tuesday…if Kirk wants 2 years guaranteed for 68 mill…
Do you take it?
I say yes.
No
Kirk is will be as old as Harrison Smith in two years. At that point, he should no longer be playing football. He would be ancient enough to run for senate.
I don’t know.
Does that fit the, “it’s not about the money” type deal Kirk was blabbing about recently?
I love how people are taking that at face value. It is about the money. He’s saying ” Iv made so much money in my life so thats not the issue. However, I still want to be paid at or above the current top QB market because thats what myself and my agent and my regular season stats say I am. So thats what Ill want.” Its the same as Dalvin Cook wanting more money last off season.
Nope. Under $30 mill a year or gtfo Kwerko. No guarantees, no no trade clause. Vikings played your game for half a decade, now its time you play theirs if you REALLY care and really want to stay a Viking and retire here. Thats how you show it.
A simple question with not so simple answers. The best kind of question.
It is a simple question and can be simply answered if one wants to.
It is simple. Cousins will play for a fair price, guaranteed money, and a no trade clause. As he said, it’s not about the dollars, but what the dollars represent, and the structure of the contract. This is completely simple. KAM will not acquiesce to the “structure” part, and so Cousins will be playing elsewhere in 2024.
Simple.
Not trying to be an ass, but MT was correct.
Question – if Kirk wants 2 years guaranteed for $68 mil do you take it?
Seems to me, that’s up to KAM (or the GM wannabees) – yes or no.
I would… KAM will not.
Simple…
and you never have to precursor anything with me JR. I know you’re not an ass.
Maybe right. And certainly the only one that counts in this is KAM.
Honestly, I don’t really regard anyone on this site as an ass….annoying sometimes for sure.
But then again, I am an easy grader.
Sniffers full time home in Delaware.
As I feel deep shame for the horrid state my tenure as a US citizen has visited upon you, I let my wife know I am looking into naturalizing as a Swiss citizen. Must be erroneous information on the embassy website, where are the blurbs about “no such thing as an illegal human:, “Diversity Equity Inclusivity”?
Eligibility Criteria:
I’ve fished Canada for 30 years. Good people. You contribute to society and country. What’s happen now boggles my mind and i am pissed off. I consider these idiots as traitors to America.
I do find it odd that for some reason it’s incredibly unreasonable to ask that folks who would like to live in a certain county assimilate to the society and customs of that country. Seems like a no brainer imo.
Seemed to work well for over 230 years.
Moving to Switzerland seems like a great opportunity to become fluent in German, French, and Italian. Plus the cool knives.
that whole list stinks of white privilege.
I leave for a few hours to do some actual work and I come back to a bunch of politics and Kirk discussion, LOL WTF
Free for All Tuesdays.
Current events, just current events.
Yep, I was pretty surprised to hear the news that Sniffer started the civil rights movement.
He had a dream
Nightmare, as it is turning out.
The media, and Biden himself, have forgotten he admitted he was never involved in the civil rights movement.
“I was not an activist,” he confessed in 1987. “I was not out marching. I was not down in Selma. I was not anywhere else.”
Huh, I hadn’t noticed. I better check it out.
hehehehe
Stu’s fault…
And he made us participate.
HOLY SHIT! Looking at highs 1/13 and 1/14 -5 and -3 .
Global warming, ask sniffer and cackles.
When it doesn’t fit that narrative it’s “climate change.” It’s never been this cold in the winter in MN, ND, MT, WI.
We have odd winters , i drove for years for UPS. I see nothing to panic on.
Well you’re just a climate denier then.
What do me and you know about outdoors. When i wasn’t driving it was fish and hunt. Sniffer and cackles know. In their small protective world. Sniffer in office or vacationing? How about cackles, she talking to grade schoolers?
Ol’ Joe is in Delaware ATM.
Think 38% time at WH. What a worthless POS. And he wants to run again. Country is beyond stupid.
It has been unseasonably warm so far this year.
Gonna be chilly around here also.
Fireplace going hard, yes joe, gas, mind if i stay warm?
Think i’ll shut down water heater, has a gas pilot. Does sniffer and cackles fly jets on battery?
We are going to have highs in the single digits from Sunday to Tuesday.
Same
meh, pretty normal for this time of year
Vrabel out in TN?
foolish. Maybe he wanted out because he’ll get a better team.
New England?
I would think NE wouldnt want someone from the BB tree, theres a reason they want to part ways and he seems like a BB clone
Well NE would have to fire BB first either way, but he’s a lot different than BB and one of the few from the tree that’s had success
The GM who hired him was fired last year and he and the new GM didn’t see eye to eye. He managed to get the titans to an afccg with tannehill as QB. He is a good coach.
Agree
Yes
https://x.com/bheintzskol/status/1744776574312882323?s=46
And I called it yesterday….
I think its cool the Z key works now.
What’s that and what does it do?
Something to do with taking you to the ‘last unread comment’ or some such.
More effective than the little blue circle thing in the lower left.
mine doesn’t *sad
must be a ND thing.
Sorry.
mick right now
I tried it…you sucked me in, LOL
mentiroso
SB on tv or does NFL going to stream for $300?
Not this year.
But if Goodell can get a streaming service to pay billions for it, it will be streaming in the future.
Wow did not know that JB started a civil rights movement what a very progressive old man and one that is a true man of the people wow wow
His stories get bigger and bigger as his brain gets smaller and smaller.
The media takes every single word that DT says and spins it in any way possible to be negative and them repeat it ad-nauseam to keep the sheep baaing but anytime this buffoon lies about something they are like YAAA KWEEEN
‘TDS is a terrible disease’.
Yup, the liberal media twists and does to Trump exactly what the conservative media does to Biden. Difference is, Trump is such a showman he knows how to twist it back to his advantage. Biden is just wondering where he currently is.
I don’t see the conservative media “twisting” many words because frankly they don’t need to, he’s just so far gone – tho they certainly are biased I won’t lie. It’s incredibly strange how the major media just ignores this every day gaffs.
Certainly the opinion pages and comment sections FAR outweigh the spinning in one direction tho – that’s what’s odd as well. Do lib people not have anything to do at all? 80% of them seem to be writing opinion pieces and commenting on news articles all day.
You’re not wrong, there are times that’s also true of Trump. When he starts talking off script sometimes he says some very stupid shit.
The difference is that while he says stupid shit at least he knows where he is, what he’s saying and what his name is. Dementia Stalin has slipped so far that I doubt he can even eat solid food at this point. You can see the drugs wear off later in the day when they don’t time it right.
That’s literally what I said above… Make no mistake about it though Trump is a joke. Any republican should be ashamed he’s the best their party can come up with.
And Biden is? LMAO.
They should party Sniffer and Newsom. They could drive deficit into a number higher than i know.
Did I say he was?
Think i’ll back off politics.
I’m not ashamed at all. He’s 100 x the candidate the democratic party is trotting out there.
That doesn’t make him good. What don’t you get about that? He’s an embarrassment. I’d say he’s slightly less of a joke than Biden, I’ve said repeatedly I’d vote Trump if I had to. But he is a piece of shit.
They’re both turds, which stinks less?
Twice impeached and the left has kept him continuously in the news cycle since 2020. Congress spent two years fighting him and did little else. Jesus Christ could be running and would have no chance against the massive media cycle that Trump is continually spun. But yeah “blame the republican party and say republicans should be ashamed”.
2.3 million illegal immigrants in this country. Many are men of military age. How many came in under the last administration? You’d have to be a bleeding heart liberal to think an open border has been good for the country. Think if those immigrants all settled in your state. How do you feed, clothe, police, care for them?
I immigrated legally to this country. It was hard. I give zero f’s for these people and if giving (in my situation) Tester the boot and putting in “shady Sheehy” who will at least vote to close the border is what it takes I’ll do it 10,000x. And I’m sure not voting for the dumbass whose handlers have created the crisis.
Can you express why exactly he’s such an embarrassment? I don’t imagine you thought that (nor anyone else, really) prior to media making you believe he was for the past 8 years. I would imagine it would be difficult to spend that long publicly needing to fight against an establishment, but his time in office was quite prosperous for the vast majority of Americans, and much improved throughout much of the modern world.
Some truth in all things – to some degree.
Biden is not always just “wondering.” I’ve been around for a while but that speech Biden gave last week comparing Trump to Hitler is beyond anything I have heard since the days of Joe McCarty. Talk about just pure ass hate speech.
Jan. 6th- violent insurrection
Saint Floyd riots – peaceful civil rights demonstration
Lol – Another thing that’s so amusing to me. Everyone considers a bunch of people wandering around a building “a violent attempt to overthrow the government”. Completely disregarding the fact that the largest gathering of conservative folks in quite some time came with approximately zero firearms, even though that group of people would be the ones to lawfully own them. Lol. Attempt to overthrow the govt gtfo.
Or people saying that rioting at the capital should be enough for jail time but completely disregard that it’s exactly what happened when DT won – except he was allowed to have the guard present and no one opened the fences/doors.
It’s laughable.
I like how the violent insurrectionists respected the velvet ropes while walking around the Capital as well and Capital Police led them around like tour guides.
Its amazing those capital police escaped with there lives…how many guns were fired in that attempt to overthrow our government??? It just gives me shivers…
Even the mere use of the word “insurrection” shows how much smarter, or perhaps to what ends, the other side will go compared to ours.
Have they changed the definition yet? I remember when they did that to “pandemic” back in the day lol
The word “insurrection” is interesting.
Jan 6 happened. I thought at time a march, a riot, a mob – but insurrection never crossed my mind.
Then the Dems start using the word and have hearings about the ” insurrection.”
And then a year and half later, some slick Ive leagues professors come up with the 14th amendment stuff and what word does that amendment use – “insurrection”
You think someone doesn’t plan ahead.
This country is in deep shit, anyone who can’t see what’s coming has shit for brains.
We are indeed in deep shit and our side needs to get their friggin act together.
We spend billions of money and other peoples borders. We have crime, inflation. juvenile sickness. It’s a power bit to keep left in charge with votes. Not what’s right or logical. Country, politics, society in collapse. Agree to disagree.
Don’t think we disagree at all. -everything you say is completely true and it is a big power for votes. I’m just “also” saying our side needs to get it’s act together a lot better to combat all of this. Hell, half the Repubs in DC hate Trump.
WE prob both old school JR. Seems gender sympathy and use of pronouns is a high priority. People not getting the big picture. Glad i’m older and kids are full grown. I want no part of the shit that is going down in this country. Have a good new year dude.
Indeed we are and I don’t think that’s bad at all. You too have a great new year and let’s hope things get better. Feel for all our kids.
lol, hearing Trump supporters, the fuck your feelings group, the Let’s Go Brandon group, getting upset about someone saying mean things about their guy is hilarious. Fucking Hilarious. The comparison is dumb as shit I don’t doubt that.
That’s unfair comparison. I wasn’t talking Trump followers or Biden followers. I was specifically talking about the Leader of the free world and what he said.
This is pure ass hate speech and below the gutter.
I know you weren’t I was though. Seeing Trump fans (not saying you are a big Trumper) upset about the words said about their guy is just so laughable.
Wait… you’re upset about the leader of the free world using hate speech and Divisive rhetoric? Honest question were you this upset when Trump did that shit too?
Yes I also think Trump as a former President has a certain standard to live up to.
There used to be a sort of unspoken area in politics that neither side crossed – like given the horrors of the Nazis, neither party accused the other of such. The very word was off limits.There are other rules – like former Presidents don’t get tax audits (like Clinton Foundation)
And McCarthism has been shunned by both parties for decades, and rightfully so.
So wait…. I am upset about the Leader of the free world with that hate crap – wasn’t he suppose to be a uniter?
I don’t think anyone is “getting upset about someone saying mean things about their guy”…. it’s a discussion on the obvious double standard being used in this country. Is it not insane? Anyone with a reasonable mind can see and could acknowledge it. Sadly there is a large portion of people who are OK allowing themselves to look like complete morons so they can be on the “good side”
Oh yes they are. Those same people don’t have any issue when Trump uses divisive rhetoric, they just say fuck your feelings you snow flake. I was just simply pointing out that makes me laugh. Biden is a fucking numb skull joke. We all know that.
Sorry that is not totally correct. Biden may to some degree be a “fucking numb skull joke”, but he is also a men spirited man that will say anything or do anything to further his political ambition.
Does that mean he’s gay? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Just my wonderful typing skills – meant “mean” and should have also added “angry.”
Thanks for the catch – and well played.
I figured it was a typo, make me laugh either way.
And he has spent more time in that black church that he has probably never set foot in than anybody in the world, even the black people that go there every day. I am interested in how he started the civil rights movement while palling around with KKK leaders.
@Just wait until those fact checkers at CNN get ahold of this one!!!!@
Lol
So surprised…just went to the fact checking portion of CNNs website and alas….no mention of Biden’s claim he started the civil rights movement.
Just imagine the leader of the free world going toe to toe without a teleprompter in a room with President Xi trying to defuse the “Taiwan Strait Incident”.
Should i subscribe to PEACOCK so i can see 50 shots of Swift?
Could be worse. You could be watching one of our DB’s trying unsuccessfully to bat away a pass.
good times…good times…
No, sail the high seas for free. Dont give them money. The less people watch on that garbage app it will dissuade them from going streaming only
Local markets will get. Does NFL or Peacock think this is a money gouge? They can shove up ass, and any future crap they want to pull.
NFL already got paid. This decision is on NBC to try and get new subscribers to their shit streaming service. It will work, to a point. Since people will subscribe for the game and at least for a month or two forget about it before cancelling.
I will pay the $5.99 and there are a few shows I wanted to watch (Poker Face looks interesting).
But I am cancelling HBO and Apple TV for now. it sucks that cycling through different streaming services is now my normal.
Vikings next QB
He’s worth a 2nd round pick, but not a 1st. Will he last that long?
Are you being serious?
I see a lot of people have him rated as the #3 or #4 QB in the Draft, but, I watched a lot of him this year and I’m not sure his game translates to the Pros. But, we’ll see.
Which part?
his cannon arm or his accuracy?
Accuracy and focuses on one WR. Does not progress through his reads very well.
You’re being serious?
71.1% accuracy
2 WR over 1100 yds and 10+ TD
I want 30+ TDs and 4 WR over 1100 yds tho
With Kirk’s durability you should feature a Pop Warner QB.
KIRKO for 8 more years!! Love it.
Didn’t even make the playoffs or conference championship. Ergo, loser.
Pass
Wonder if Penis on radar. His recievers had hands of stone but his injury history.
I’m not a huge fan of most of the QBs, Penix and Daniels are both old for rookie qbs and only found success after transferring to schools with spread offenses. Williams I question his character. Maye seemed to take a step back this season. McCarthy wasn’t asked to do much, has less plays to evaluate. I personally like Maye and McCarthy the best, they’re both young and played in more pro style offenses.
L take.
Age isn’t a huge issue. If the Vikinsg have them for 10 years as a QB thats a huge win and means they’ve been successful.
Still would be 3 years younger than Kirk too.
Age is an issue when they sucked for years before transferring to college offenses, age is also an issue when you’ve torn the same acl twice. They suck. The end.
We’ve never seen a QB flourish in the NFL under one coach vs. another, so one would be safe to assume it happening in college is the players fault and not the coaches.
The Redskins have over $86M in cap space for 2024 (according to Spotrac) and 9 draft picks, with the #2 pick overall. They fired the head coach, right at the moment when all the BS around the team he endured has passed, and the team is in a position to actually put a solid roster together.
I’d think with the new ownership, all that money, and all those draft picks, the next head coach is set up like no other in NFL history to take over a team.
OK when Jimmie Johnson left the Cowboys, he left Barry Switzer a ready built team… that’s about it though.
You could say the same about the Falcons and the weapons they have in place.
I have them tabbed as the winner of the Ben Johnson sweepstakes. Especially in the weak NFC South.
Washington just traded away 2/3 of their best defensive players too. OOOOF.
Yeah, calculated move by the front office. Dump big money players, get draft picks, start over in 2024.
Chase young is way overrated.
Does it change him being one of their best players?
Sweat has had a huge impact in chicago
Sweat is an impact player, young was drafted like one but isn’t, he wasn’t even one of their three best dlinemen
Hey, you bandwagoned to become a Vikings fan when they signed Kirk, you can always go back to your original team when he leaves.
Well, that’s what you get when you don’t have a $38 million+ fully guaranteed QB on the roster.
And don’t forget, Kirk will be a $28 million cap hit this year if he is not playing for the Vikings.
@but he is/was worth it. dominating with Kirk at the helm@
Wow how very insensitive of you
Mac Jones, best QB in the class.
Who am I building my team around? KIRKO CAINZZZZ BABY! Lol, I was on the Cousins experiment hasn’t worked moved on… but I think I’m swaying on that, especially if he’ll take a team friendly deal.
How do you get to the NFC championship game with Kirk and his new deal?
Rebuilding the defense is going to be the issue for this team. Again.
How do you get the NFC Championship without a QB? You either (over)pay for one or you draft one… that’s it. So unless we draft the QBOF this draft we either pay for Kirk or roll with garbage.
the QB talk is fascinating.
Getting to the NFC Championship. I wonder
This year – looking around the NFC – could we have gotten there this year if Kirk, JJ and Hock had remained healthy?
‘ if Kirk, JJ and Hock had remained healthy?’
Lot of ‘IFs’ involved there.
Don’t forget IF we had stopped turning the ball over constantly.
We did stop and started winning games. Losing Kirk, JJ and Hock is a huge hit and would be for any team.
Point is the NFC is pretty wide open this year.
The Vikings won more games with JJ out than they did with him playing.
Good point, cut him loose he sucks.
Believe stopping the turnovers made up for loss oof JJ, at least until Kirk went down.
Schedule was also front loaded some.
Meh, they got smoked on either end of it and made hay in the middle.
JJ is a factor when he’s in and probably had little to no bearing on the W’s and L’s when he played.
We win 2 more games at most. We lost the Atlanta and Saints games. Record would be around the same give or take a game or two. Maybe snag a WC, get ass kicked. Rinse and repeat.
How many more games would we have won with Dobbs as the QB?
How about Mullens? He put up HUGE numbers in his 4 starts.
None. Record would be the same.
Yeah, with Kirk I feel similar outcomes. It’s all hypothetical because he did’nt play.
the defense was not good enoug hto go anywhere in the playoffs.
Your opinion – fine. Point was against the other NFC teams. Eagles are a mess. Lions really just beat the Cowboys and if Mullens had thrown a FOURTH interception, we beat them – without Kirk and Hock.
WC- maybe. But could have also been playing Lions for Division last game but for injuries.
But, it’s all water under the damn at this point.
Correct but its getting old seeing “Welllll if this and this and this happened were undefeated and kings of the NFC and rolling to a SB because we managed to beat a 49ers team at home missing key starters and concussing their QB” Its laughable and stupid thinking. This wasnt a conference / SB contender before the season started, and that didnt change. We dont win double digit games if Cousins stayed healthy.
Your opinion – thanks.
I agree about all the what if – bullshit.
I just think the NFC is weak this year.
Now, if we could play the Lions tomorrow and have Kirk and Hock back (with their secondary), I’d be a $100 on us.
And id take that bet you with. Lions win by a score.
Well we’ll never know. But maybe McKay/Stafford/Kupp may give us a little bit of a picture about the Lions defense.
Save your money and good a fair bottle of Merlot.
A lovely idea. 🍷
The offense is built for success. A competent starting QB would succeed. The problem this year is they did not have that. When the Vikings did, they turned the ball over like they were the ones getting points for it.
The defense is in shambles with only PJII and Carter as Edge rushers. Asamoah, Kwenku, and Pace Jr. as LB. Murphy and some young guys at CB and the DL has Phillips. Whos been solid but he’s not a pass rushing DT.
This offense is not fine. There is no running game… maybe Chandler can be a big part of the fix. But the offense is light years ahead of the defense as far as talent goes I agree.
Chsndler tried to p[rove otherwise.
Mattison was not it.
Defense needs talent or for these draft picks to finally be serviceable.
There is another factor here when it comes to the offense. KOC. His scheme requires a QB that can process quickly, hang in the pocket while it’s collapsing, and deliver a ball very accurately… every time.
Those guys don’t grow on trees.
Mullens did fine, he doesn’t have the arm talent of Cousins though. There were throws he just couldn’t make.
Put a guy like Daniels in there? Or Maye? Both would need to not flee the pocket but trust the process and they’d have banner years.
When Cousins leaves, the Vikings will ultimately take a step back at the QB position. His departure in no way, shape, or form, makes the offense better.
Like the Redskins, the Vikings will go through some throes at that position. How long, is anyone’s guess.
Games with 350+ passing yards in 2023
Mullens – 2 in 4 starts
Kirk – 1 in 8 starts
Are you kidding with this comparison?
They are numbers.
Mullens in 4 games 1306 yards
Kirk in 8 games 2331 yards
Mullens two 400 games against Detroit. Last time Kirk played Detroit he threw 425 – 0 interceptions. Mullens threw 6 getting his two 400 games.
I think Mullens is fine, but he ain’t at Kirk’s level.
He’s not. But that doesn’t change ethe numbers
True. But who you get them against and how you get them is important.
Yards per Attempt 2023
Mullens 8.8
Cousins 7.5
Mullens is a slinger….
You can only post QB stats if they make kirko look better.
Otherwise they are not valid
Kirk math.
Vikings are years away from an NFC championship, in my opinion. They don’t have any studs on defense, and JJ is overhyped on how much of the weight he can carry.
If Kwesi blows the draft, that just pushes a resurgence further into the future. Bad drafts build on each other.
I feel worse about the Vikings than I have in a long time. It is the Lions and Packers division for the foreseeable future. The Vikings only hope lies in drafting wunderkinds.
Purple win a SB? I’ll be looking down. (hopefully).
Baltimore has a pretty good chance. Just squint a little and you can pretend the purple is a little different shade.
Lots of turnover off season. Safe to say.
Let’s hope so.
I don’t think i can take “competitive rebuild” for the 7th straight year.
You going somwhwere soon??
LOL, not in plans, hows gitche gumee treating you? Kids and family fine?
Yeah we’re all busy, I moved south of duluth 45 mins.
Free from the chaos now.
and the libs.
He’s moving into a penthouse next to US Bank that has a view through the roof of the stadium.
The Vikings should draft a QB and give the Patriots a ham sandwich for Mac.
Big brain move.
Mac had little to no help in NE by way of WRs.
hes a rhythmic passer and would find success in MN is my guess.
would he be all pro? Who knows.
He’d be good enough to let JJ sit for a year or two after they get him in the 2nd or 3rd.
Oh and a lot cheaper than Kirko. Best case Mac looks good and they could trade him after a year or two or at least get good comp pick value.
NOOOOOO…..if you are not bringing kirk back just role with Mullens as your bridge. Why waste draft capital and money on a bridge that may or may not be better than what you already have???
Because a 7th round pick has almost no chance of contributing and you would get somebody with potential to be better than Mullens and somebody with some success could be flipped for a higher draft pick.
Agree. Macs arm is weaker than Mullens. Plus he’s disliked in the locker room.
Mac Jones isn’t even the best QB on the Patriots
Belichek was just tanking for a better pick.
Look, its 5 savior.
Good morning Skolos!
Marley’s upset over no playoff football….
not surprised, but still upset.
Skol
Goose still around?
Always…..
Thanks – he looks tired from watching all the Vikings screw ups.
Guessing we have 1 or 2 qb’s on list at 11. Not there i say we go D.
They either move up for their guy, stand pat at 11, or trade down.
I really dont think they’ll let time expire but its happend before.
LOLOL
KAM has been steadily moving on from legacy players like Thielen, Kendricks, Cook, Barr (but he came back) etc, with somewhat bloated contracts and long in the tooth as it were. I see no reason to think that won’t continue this season. Personally I think KAM will move on from Cousins, Hunter, and Harrison Smith this year.
But that’s not really surprising is it? He’s a bean counter, he’s not going to see the world like John Lynch
I would say he inherited a team with significant cap issues, and understandably had to get that under control first and foremost. Yes he’s a bean counter and not much of a football guy like John Lynch is, and he’s also no horse trader like Lynch and Roseman are.
He’s going to keep trying to build a competitive team with cheap players who somehow play at a level way beyond their paycheck, IMO. Not sure if he can actually do it though.
two more seasons, then I will have my pitchfork sharpened.
This is the way. For now, let him put into motion HIS roster before we jump to judgement.
What I like about Lynch. Overall, he and Shanahan are great NFL minds. He knows the exact type of players he wants for a defense, and Shanahan has his offensive wants. It’s easier to get where you want to be if you know what you want.
Leading is a lot easier if you know where you’re going.
What I like is that Lynch was willing to admit failure with Lance, and once Purdy played better, made the move. They paid a LOT for Trey Lance, and now he is someone else’s issue.
I also like is that they built a competitive team that is not QB dependent.
He gave up to early on Lance…..Future HOF…
Hunter will likely be offered a deal he can’t refuse in free agency.
Smith, I believe that will be on him whether he wants to come back or not. He’ll be taking a pay cut but it will be whether or not he wants to play.
Kirk, he’s worth 45m or more, that again will be on him how much he wants to get paid and how he wants it structured. I don’t see a world where he plays for less than 40m.
Hunter will turn 30 and he wants 3 years big coin. Think he’s gone. Not sure we don’t draft a edge guy. I have to watch the mocks, they excite me.
LOL. Yeah like Tomlinson last year, he’s going to get a big offer. It is what it is.
Tired of these abject failures like Davencouch who just want a paycheck.
Yeah, the signs were there, it was a gamble and he lost.
Wonder what ha got paid per snap? 10,000,000 divided by ?
LOL, has to be close.
Rarely do players not want to come back and play for their current team. They have all sorts of roots imbedded, and relationships built, and change is just a pain. Cousins wants to stay here, but KAM doesn’t want him. Just like when he was in Washington with Bruce Allen. Cousins wanted to stay with the Redskins, but his GM didn’t want to pay him what he was worth, and ultimately let him walk. Hitman, Hunter, and Cousins all want to remain on the Vikings roster.
I predict none of them will be here next year though.
You have to figure in a lot regarding these guys. Smith is in no way, shape, or form worth 19m/season.
Hunter has a ceiling too due to his age and other teams can afford to pay him more for his services than the Vikings.
Kirk is a fierce negotiator. You’ve said it yourself that he’ll get what he wants. That is going to be the sticking point. Reading his comments yesterday, he will probably not relent much on the guaranteed money he wants in 2025. Should he? That really up for debate. There are other teams that can and will pay up for his veteran services though.
I don’t expect Kirk to take a 15m/year haircut on a 2/60 deal, even if it is fully guaranteed and I”m not so sure kwesi is going to guarantee 2 years of a 40-45m/year deal.
Offseason will be a wild rid.e
As he should.
Looks like high for fins/chefs about zero with wind. By the way NFL AND PEACOCK, SHOVE UP YUR GREEDY ASSES. HOPE IT’S A FAILURE.
I am not paying for another streaming service to watch one game. NFL Assholes!
Watch for free on the high seas
Penix and Mccarthy didn’t do anything to help their draft stock. Granted michigan ran all over washington so mccarthy didn’t have to do much. but mccarthy did make a couple of really nice throws.
We are so far out from the draft its going to change a bunch between now and then.
Not for me, no Penis round 1
You’re going to need one sooner or later.
Good. If they were lights out they might move up draft boards so high the Vikings don’t have a shot.
Does Kwesi get credit for signing Ivan Pace Jr. or is he a dumdum for not drafting him?
Yes
bensmartsmart
I give him credit for picking Pace Jr. out of the UDFA pool. No one else drafted him, either, so he found a good player on the free agent market.
I guess it’s just me, but I don’t think Pace is all that great.
I agree, he is good, not great.
He was the best LB from the 2023 draft class.
Based on which metrics? He seems good but not great to me as well.
Based on….Tackles, sacks, pressures, QB Hits, QB Passer rating, Stops…
I didn’t say great, I asked if he gets credit because he signed him ratherr than drafting him.
He had 2 sacks, 1.5 tackles for loss, 1 interception, and 2 passes defended in 16 games. He was credited with 102 tackles (63 solo, and 39 assists).
Compared to the rest of the linebackers in the league, I don’t know how great that is.
Yeah, I guess if you read what I wrote, I said the 2023 draft class.
That means rookies not the entire league.
OK… point taken…
Take UDFA like him all day.
Any time you get a UDFA that contributes and his competent that is a win for your GM.
I won’t disagree with that.
He’s solid, unspectacular. Doesn’t make many splash plays but he is where he should be and makes the plays he should and tackles well.
Yes
Guarantee the defensive coaches had more to do with that then Kwesi.
It’s Tuesday. I guess we’ll have to talk about Cousins, today.
Up early today?
Cackles, she’s in line to run this country. Think about it.
think they’ll wait until penultimate moment of the convention and then pull the rug on ol’ Joe, slip in Newsom and he’ll be too busy on campaign trail to debate. Anyone that fills in the circle next to ol’ Joe’s name should be…well I’ll just keep that to myself.
Michael, I mean Michelle said her and Barry are ready to step in and save the day. I think the left is covertly pushing Haley. Haley over Trump would be a win for them and they could stomach her since she flip flops depending on who’s paying her.
they do like Haley better, but mainly cause they think she would be easier to beat than Trump
And she’s half democrat. Mainly she is part of the establishment and wouldn’t threaten the order.
Which half of her is Democrat??
I like Haley, think she is smart, conservative, and tough…Maybe not a popular opinion on this page.
She is not conservative. She is a swamp rat who talks a big game and does whatever will get her paid.
Agreed.
Currently predicting -7 for a high here on Friday. I might have to work from home.
GM
FTP
SKOL!
Both QB’s looked not NFL ready last night.
Some stud interior linemen on both sides of the ball though, and decent RB play for sure.
One thing we know, the Vikings will eff up the draft (again)
The guy from Washington has quite the arm. Not too sure about his accuracy and he seemed to wilt under pressure. We will probably draft him. It is the Viking way.
Penix is not NFL top shelf material in my opinion. Not even close.
Agree…..Don’t want Penix, and he is 25 years old…He isn’t going to get much better.
LOL he’s only 23. bout 6 months older than Jayden Daniels and 12 years younger than Kirk Cousins if age is your thing.
I guess I am like Clinton, I like ’em young….
when talking about QBs anyway.
LOL yeah, I don’t think 23 is a big issue.
Age isn’t mine, but if I see a QB that doesn’t like to step into his throws for fear of getting hit, don’t think it’s a good fit to play behind our line.
agreed. I love how well he throws the deep ball, but man, night and day difference when pressured.
He looked awful.
Don’t watch college all that much, but did last night. Both of those QB’s seem to get a fair amount of praise around here. They seemed OK, but the college game is so different anyways. Do think both QB’s would need a lot of work.
Liked Michigan’s RB
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!
Agreed, both QBs wilted under pressure. Not a great look for either one.
One QB is on his 6th season and like 3 years older though, the other one is in his 3rd season and 20. Neither looked great but Penix looked worser.
And Pennix got hurt, again. Seems very injury prone, thus, KAM will draft him…
Without one of the “top 3” taking a fall, the Vikings best move is to take the top Edge/DL at 11.
If you really like a guy, make a Teddy Bridgewater type move back into the 1st for a 5th year option.
Agree, if you can’t get one of the top 3 don’t waste a pick on any of the others in the first round….Maybe take a flier on JJ in round 2, but woof he didn’t look great last night.
As BenDumDum says, he is only 20…lots of room for development yet.
The flyer is trading up the 10 or so spots from 42 which would costs both of your 4ths.
Not impossible if you like a guy and want the 5th year option.
I think both QBs from last night would easily be available in round 2.
And I hope they do not take either one.