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Vikings Discussion & Random Thoughts
The Ravens are very busy in free agency this year. However, as the Vikings found out last year, winning free agency doesn’t guarantee success on the field.
The Vikings have been fairly quiet, which is okay. I was happy to see that they brought back Eric Wilson, as he vastly outperformed expectations last year and seems to be thriving in Flores’ defense. I could still see the Vikes pulling off a trade or two, maybe try to acquire more day one and two picks for this year, or even accumulate more picks for next year since next year’s draft is supposed to be stacked with talent.
Also, this Linderbaum deal, wowza.
The Raiders are in the mood to spend money, apparently. All the best to Nailor as he moves on, he always gave 100% and was fun to watch. I hope he succeeds (unless he’s playing against us, of course).
Vikings and NFL News
From Sports Illustrated, the Vikings are to sign former Steelers CB James Pierre in free agency. The deal is rumored to be two years for $8.5 million, $3.7 million of that is guaranteed. Reading some of the Steelers’ sites, the fans seem upset that the Steelers let Pierre go. I looked on PFF, and they have Pierre graded as the 2nd best cornerback in the overall category, and the NFL’s best in the coverage category. It’s PFF, so grain of salt, but it’s encouraging.
From Vikings.com, the team was awarded one compensatory pick in this year’s draft. The Vikings received a pick at the end of the third round, the 97th overall pick. This pick brings them up to 9 total picks, according to the site, which means that I was off yesterday when I thought they had 11 picks. Whichever site I got the information from was wrong, I blame them…..and Ponder.
A list of Minnesota Vikings 2026 draft selections, from Vikings.com (so I assume this is correct). Also, a 2026 Vikings free agency tracker where you can see the latest free agency moves the Vikings make.
Tua Tagovailoa to the………Falcons?
The Dolphins released QB Tua Tagovailoa, and there is lots of talk that the Falcons will sign him, per the Sun Sentinel. This came as a surprise to no one, the Dolphins have been telling everyone that they were going to release Tua. This was a dumb move, in my opinion, it eliminated the 0.5% chance of someone trading for Tua and his ugly contract.
The Dolphins will eat a league record $99.2 million in dead cap. Since they’re designating this as a post June 1 release, they can move some of the dead cap hit to 2027 and they’ll ONLY have to eat $67.4 million of that dead cap this year. Some dumb moves by the Dolphins, but what about the Falcons? They sign Kirk to a massive contract, then a few weeks later, they draft Penix in the first round. They eventually release Kirk and his contract (eating a ton of dead cap), presumptively allowing Penix to settle into the lead role, but now they bring in Tua. Huh?? Weird. The Falcons should probably look at getting rid of the GM.
I guess it doesn’t cost them much to sign him, likely only the vet minimum, but why would Tua want to go somewhere where he may not start? I’m guessing they told him that he had a legit shot to be the starter, but I’m not sure that I’d believe anything they say.
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And that is why they welched on the Crosby trade
So, less-damaged goods?
That didn’t take long.
Pushing a lot of cap debt into the future…
Scottie Scheffler’s results in 2026 have been W, T3, T4, T12 and T24.
Yesterday, at the Players, he was asked by a reporter about his slow start to the year. The media is useless.
Just so you know Harrison Smith is in this mix too…
OK…
Who?
Yeah
After the Crosby fiasco, the NFL needs a do over on free agency.
All previous deals are cancelled.
Olly olly oxen free !
Perhaps the Ravens will focus on Greenard? But he’s sort of injury prone too.
The ravens welching on the Crosby trade could have significant impact far beyond just the raiders getting screwed, it could effect agreements already made across the league
Might/could be the case.
Philly, Dallas, Chiraq and Buffalo were allegedly all interested in Mad Maxx.
Philly let Phillips go to Carolina and were rumored to like Greenard.
Trey Hendrickson out there still as well.
More than that, raiders may have to back out of deals they’ve agreed to, sending players back into the market that potentially are higher priorities for teams that signed others, or said players may have to take less money from other teams now that most deals are done. Ravens welching may have a butterfly effect on the whole league
Ravens back out of Crosby deal…
Sounds like Crosby failed his physical
They knew about his injury, they just changed their minds
Posted that without updating the page… you beat me to it. Deleted my post.
They’re a clown show, fired one of the best coaches in the nfl and now this Mickey Mouse bullshit. You don’t agree to a trade and announce it then default on it, reminds me of the draft day trade where the ravens didn’t do what they were supposed to and the Vikings got skipped, still ended up with Kevin Williams, but still, what a shitshow, how can any other franchise trust them at this point after this fiasco?
So maybe they want Greenard for a 1st and a 2nd instead of Crosby for two 1 sts.
Nobody wants greenard for a first, unless they’re drunk
Maybe the Vikings need to start sending kegs to the other teams GMs.
Let me have my dreams/fantasies. They will be crushed by reality soon enough, no need to hurry that along.
OK… didn’t see this one coming…
So Kathy will be hanging out on the Lions site now?
That is the sad part.
Laughing… potentially…
Who even trades for a punter?
Especially when that team just signed a punter to a pretty lucrative deal.
Yeah, stupid. “We have to get him, he’s great! We don’t want another team to steal him when he’s released!” I don’t think there would have been a bidding war. But maybe he just has a very favorable contract, so they want that…
Yeah, dumb. There aren’t huge differences in punter quality IMO (range from very good to “bad” punters isn’t that big), so why waste resources? At least that’s what I think.
I think the biggest difference is in the quality of their holding, that was fat boys best value
I read that the cardinals are holding out to try to get a pick for Murray, like the raiders did for geno where they agreed to eat all contract except for vet minimum for some sort of draft compensation. I’m guessing the Vikings say get bent but a pick swap for a 7th for a 6th to guarantee his services like the geno trade isn’t much
Or just wait them out till they release him. I don’t see any other team out there other than the Vikings, in the mix. BTW they don’t have to release him till the 5th day of the new season, which is the 15th of March.
Yeah I don’t see the Vikings agreeing to anything, where else is he going to go, Cleveland?
I don’t think we want that contract. Sorry, Cards.
I think you missed the part where they eat all the contract other than vet minimum
You’re right. Lol
Still don’t want to give anything up.
Yep, agree
i’d rather have wentz back than murray at any price i think.
I’d rather neither, Murray at vet min is probably the best they can do though
Both Spotrac and Over the cap are showing us in the red against the cap. I thought we were $30M to the good after releasing multiple players and restructuring three contracts. Not sure why those sites are showing us still in the hole.
Cuts are not reflected yet on those websites
Ahhhh sooo
none of the signings or cuts are official until tomorrow. it’s all reportedly agreed to stuff.
Reportedly the Jets were all in on Murray.
Now they trade for Geno.
Tua in ATL
Jones wanting 55 milly per – coming off an Achilles.
Does Kyler end up in Indy?
Kirko hits the boof.
We end up with Aaron Rodg🤮….
Well, the Colts aren’t interested in Murray, other than telling Jones if he doesn’t lower his contract demands, they’ll just trade for him. Jones showed a lot last season before being injured.
For our sanity I hope you’re wrong on the last thing. I dont think thats going to happen
Nooooooo to Rodgers. He’s turned into a check down passer, not wanting to get hit anymore.
The colts guaranteed Jones almost 40 mil for next season, he’s their starter when healthy, I don’t know what the boof is. Rodgers is completely washed. Vikings will end up with the midget clown.
You’re right, they tagged him last week for $37M so they’re keeping him.
Boof = booth
As in:
’Nebraska’s defense is fired up down here Lyle, back to you guys in the boof’
Former Husker Radio sideline reporter Gary Saddlemyer…
later carried on by former Husker I-Back Calvin Johnson..
a staple from Husker radio calls in the 80’s/90’s – when they were worth listening to.
Thank you for the clarification!
She/We have success.
After a night and morning of pain, nausea, and little sleep The Teacher finally came out with a small rock about 1 pm today.
She is still tired, sore, and out of sorts. First thing she did was to send me to the store for some bland, dry cereal. She went thru what we had the last couple of days and they rest had been in the pantry too long and was stale.
Hopefully she will recover quickly after the problem has passed.
Yay!!!! Really great news SoCal!
She will take it to the Urologist to see what it is made of, I think Dr Pepper.
Take the stone and rub it on your tooth, if it leaves a yellow discoloration it is uric acid.
(do I need to put that in sarcasm font)
The Teacher said ‘no thanks’ and didn’t even need the sarcasm font.
I still don’t get, with all of our modern medicine and technology, how we cannot help with kidney stones more. Perhaps MT can enlighten, but c’mon human race. Let’s figure it out already.
In the ER they told her that if it didn’t pass in a few days they would have to ‘go in and get it’.
No good answers there.
Didn’t know you were a pronoun person
She did all the work but it felt like We had success since I was the support animal.
lol, support animal
It was either that or minion.
I think support animal is more indicative of what I bring to the table.
So with Geno out of the running, the Murray deal is all but done in my opinion.
Still, are the Vikings bringing Murray in because they think McCarthy just isn’t the guy? Or do they think he might could still be the guy in another year?
I continue to hold out hope that reports will emerge that McFragile™ and Brosmer are bonding running up and down the sand dunes in Cali, studying film furiously, and throwing footballs through a tire at ten paces, and are set to be all we need at 1 and 2.
Well that’s a good hope!
I think they are coming to terms with him being a potential bust, but I think they are hopeful he’ll still be a great QB (which I highly doubt). I hope they do a full out QB competition – best player wins.
You think Murray will be happy with that? Coming in knowing he’s not automatically QB1?
No, just saying I am hoping they aren’t going to automatically crown JJ starter when he’s proven he sucks so far.
he’s only proven that he gets injured too much so far. there’s been plenty of promise and with more play he will be fine. let’s not turn into the jets and keep getting rid of qbs. have some patience.
OK Bow… time for a reality check here. McCarthy is the worst passing QB in the league. He has a 59% on-target pass rate. The league average is 74.5% and Cousins averaged nearly 80% in his six seasons here. Also he has a league worst 24.1% bad pass rate, which is HORRIBLE. You want to just look at the few good plays he makes and ignore all the bad plays he makes. He is more bad than any other QB in the league. Stop gaslighting us. We see with our own eyes that he’s not good.
I’m not gas lighting anything. You hate anybody who isn’t your nephew. I’m saying this entire fan base needs to chill and realize that to have a franchise QB you have to have patience. Maybe JJ will fail, but I don’t see it. Gil Brandt, who has slightly more nfl credential than you says you can’t judge a QB until they have 30 starts. I’ll believe you over him when you show me your bust in Canton. Until then, what you say means even less than the”experts” on TV.
Question is, will McFragile ever get to 30 starts? We’ll find out, I guess…
Bullshit Bow… I gave McCarthy EVERY benefit of the doubt, and he ended up being bad. I defended Darnold coming in too, and someone here labeled me the QB defender, so don’t go there with that I hate everyone crap. Just face it, we listened to your over the top crowing about McCarthy for two years, and he just sucks so far.
He not only has sucked ass so far, he also can’t stay on the field. I still think it’s too early to give up on him completely, but he has done nothing to earn the starting QB position. He should have been a backup last year, not the starter.
So this happened
Generational wealth. Meanwhile Taylor Swift sings “Twinkle twinkle little star” a cappella and makes that much on spotify.
Celebrity is worth more than talent or hard work.
Exploiting celebrity as a tycoon is worth way more
How about both?
Geno to the Jets… traded…
Full circle, weird
Bet the Jest would rather get Darnold back, but Geno is all they get when it comes to full circle. Maybe Sam will retire there after winning a few more Superbowls with the Vik… errr, Seattle.
Happy KirkTuesday!
Will the Cardinals make a play for Kirk Cousins? – Yahoo Sports
I would think they would, but I don’t think he signs there. Either in Minny or he retires to the booth.
The Cardinals have said they’re going with Brissett as their starter, and Minshew as the backup.
The cardinals will surely suck with that plan
Yep
Kyler Murray? Well, there should be… intriguing possibilities.
Laughing… nice… could actually work!
So if the Vikings are going to make a pitch to Murray tomorrow if the Cardinals do indeed release him, what will their angle be?
A. We want you to come in and be our QB1 for a year
B. We want you to come in and compete with McCarthy for the QB1 position for a year
C. McCarthy is our QB1 and we want you to mentor him for a year
D. Come in a show the NFL that you don’t suck as much as you did playing for that joke of a team in Arizona. Then you can sign for big numbers somewhere else, like Sam did.
That doesn’t make sense… to show the NFL that he still has it, he would need to be QB1. So it would be either A or B.
If he can beat out JJ (QB) then that in itself prove to the NFL that he ‘doesn’t have it’.
Can or can’t beat out JJ?
Can’t beat out JJ (QB).
If he can beat out JJ (QB) he would still have to prove to the NFL that he still has it.
A
McCarthy isn’t going anywhere unless Minny wants him to. Has no leverage. You tell Kyler ‘We want you to do what Sam did – revive your career and earn another payday and this time we won’t make the same mistake and let you walk’
McCarthy takes the demotion or doesn’t – bad look for future suitors if he throws a pity party.
Then….
Kyler throws for 3800 yds, 35 scores and adds another 500 yds and 8 scores on the ground and revives his career and becomes our QB1 and we ship Nine off for pennies.
Or….
McCarthy steps up and takes the job – either in camp or from a Kyler injury (which he’s got a history of) and he becomes the guy many of us wanted him to be – a legit franchise QB….
Or…..
Both shit the bed. Kyler doesn’t make it out of camp. Nine tosses 4 picks in his first game and gets pulled for whoever we’ve got left. KOC gets fired. Jets gets traded. Viktor the Viking hangs himself from the US Bank rafters. Murray gets a job as a live cake topper.
but I’m probably wrong
Last prediction most likely.
If I believed in prayer I would be jonesing for the latter.
We want you to come in and be our QB1 for a year at vet minimum since you’ll get paid a shit ton anyway and you get to throw to Jefferson and Addison, we’ll sign you to big money if things work out, or you can cash in with another team if you don’t like the cold.
The Vikings situation is definitely the best available for any QB looking to be a starter, pending the oline being healthy. Outside of center they are decent, darrisaw is good, O’Neill is good, fries is good and the only one to not miss games last year, Jackson was decent for a rookie but also missed time with injury. They have a hole at center, neither Brandel or jurgens were what you would call good, Brandel was better but still mediocre at best.
Ky isnt coming here unless he knows he starting day 1, he is going to a place he can play for a year and have the chance to get himself a new contract after, he cant show he is worth that contract with out him actually playing and starting soooo
C is impossible – Kyler may need a mentor himself.
Has to be A or B.
lions add Pacheco
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/48163971/source-lions-add-rb-isiah-pacheco-pair-jahmyr-gibbs
That will be a legit 1-2 combo.
meh, Pacheco was pretty good his first couple years but sucked the last two, Montgomery is much better than him.
After 10 years, the wife starts to think their child looks strange, so she decides to do a DNA test.
She finds out that the child is actually from completely different parents.
Wife: Honey, I have something very serious to tell you
Husband: What’s up?
Wife: According to DNA test results, this is not our child.
Husband: Well, you don’t remember, do you? When we were leaving the hospital, we noticed that our baby had wet its diaper, and you said,
“Please go change the baby, I’ll wait for you here.”
Ha!
If the Vikings do sign Murray, he will be the backup.
Then Murray isnt coming here, he is going to a place he can play for a year and have the chance to get himself a new contract after, he cant show he is worth that contract with out him actually playing and starting soooo
A couple comments:
First, I don’t think all those signings will do much for the Raiders. They will still be bad this year. Better than last, but still bottom 8. Side comment: Quay Walker is a little b****.
Not a Kyler Murray fan, but the price is right, so I see the appeal. Just don’t think he’ll be a great fit, but who knows. Don’t have many other options – they’ve hitched their wagon to a currently bad QB in McCarthy (he could improve, but my optimism is low). My Michigan-hating instincts and comments about him have proven good to this point.
And finally, I think it’s hilarious how we still talk about Cousins at this point. So polarizing, it’s funny. I, for one, was happy when we had generally reliable and consistent accuracy with our QB – just wish we had a serviceable line at the time. That being said, I would find it really funny if Kirk checked out our discussions weekly about him. I bet he would be laughing all the way to the bank (literally).
I think Vegas really overpaid for the center, but the rest of the deals were in line with market value. Quay Walker is a crybaby bitch, but he is also a good football player, like you said they’ll be better but not great, I think their new rookie starting QB will have his ups and downs but I like him as a prospect. I hope Nailor does well, he seemed a good dude when here.
Also, Kirk laughs at everyone on his way to the bank, especially the Wilfs and Arthur Blank.
Kirk doesn’t have to go to the bank. Direct deposit and if there was actually something that required a trip to the bank, I’m sure he has somebody to do that for him.
I could actually see Kirk going old school, to the bank, in his van, and chatting it up with the teller while doing his business.
100%. I just don’t see them as the personal assistant, live in housekeeper, live in cook family.
I imagine Kirk stopping by the bank on his daily Tuesday walk with Julie while she waits outside with the dog, it’s a local credit union where he knows all the employees by name and they all know him as well, like a real life cheesy commercial he would do.
It would be exactly like that haha. Khaki shorts and polo shirt. Maybe some white New Balance shoes.
They definitely overpaid for the center, but probably had to, to get him. It’s gotta piss the other teams off a bit because they just reset the center market by quite a bit.
KC signed the first fully guaranteed contract, 3 years $84M it was a huge deal at the time..
Now a OC gets a 3 year $81M fully guaranteed contract??
That’s the thing. Not many other options out there. I’m not high on Kyler, but at that price would you rather have Geno?
No. Kyler is better than Geno.
It’s in the name.
Ge-NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I say bring him back.
He played well for the purple.
They still need depth and another starter, bring all the competition they can find
I liked Duke, more grit than talent but he made some good plays for us.
I just signed a 1 meal deal with a cup of instant ramen.
it cooking in its own container was all the signing bonus I could get
Murray had one good year in 2020 and has mostly stunk.
Viking suck again.
Even lifer knew that he is a midget clown
I’m going to make Rueben egg rolls for lunch, I freaking love corned beef, sauerkraut, and Russian dressing all together in any form.
especially in tubular form
True, and making your own egg rolls is easier than cooking a Rueben, I make all kinds of egg rolls, breakfast, Philly, taco, pulled pork, brisket, etc. one of my favorite ways of making myself fatter, though my new air fryer makes them healthier than deep or pan fried
Just dropped a really large Kyler, wiping my Murray was a chore.
OK…
old news
Now the Vikings just need a new holder
Yuge move
I posted this last night as we had an ‘Interesting Evening’.
Just got back from the emergency room.
Friday The Teacher thought she had an infection, went to Urgent Care, culture was negative but started antibiotics.
Sunday she had ‘Stomach Flu/Norovirus Symptoms’.
Today I got back from the gym and she was laying on the bed after her shower in tears because the pain was so bad.
Rushed her to the emergency room (2 miles away), no waiting, checked right in, did blood and urine test, negative. They said Cat Scan, machine was literally across the hallway.
Results come back, kidney stone, (.5cm). Gave her a gang of orders for drugs, send orders to pharmacy. 5 min away, it closes at 7 pm.
We leave the hospital at 6:30, I leave The Teacher in car and run in. The pharmacist says ‘we just got these, they are not ready yet’. I tell the lady, ‘Ma’am she is in the parking lot passing a kidney stone’. She replies ‘Oh crap, we will prioritize this, please just stand to the side’. At 6:50 meds are ready.
Have I mentioned I love this place, 1 hour and 40 min from arrival at the emergency room to meds in hand headed home. The process would have taken all evening, maybe all night in SoCal, maybe longer waiting for Cat Scan.
Went from thinking she was dying to just painful (extremely) to in bed with good drugs and napping. I am emotionally spent and I was just the support animal.
Wow… glad you garnered her care quickly, and effectively. I have not had the pleasure of passing a stone, but I’ve known many folks who have. I know it’s a terrible ordeal. You’re a good man SoCAL. Prayers for your wife.
When asked her pain level in the ER she said it was a 9. They finally gave her some morphine and she relaxed, 5 minutes later she had another spasm and the pain rocketed back up despite the morphine.
Yeah, I hope I never have the ‘pleasure’ of dealing with one of those.
One of my coworkers passed a kidney stone while at work outdoors. He went and laid down behind the truck for awhile and then went back to work.
He might be the toughest man in the world. Yet…he genuinely passes out when he has to get a shot!
Have seen an inmate who was covered in tattoos pass out over a shot.
When asked WTF he just said ‘I was drunk when I got tattooed’.
Yikes, kidney stones are a bitch, I hear. Hope she gets past it fast.
She seems to have slept well last night so fingers crossed.
The Dr said the Cat Scan showed it was almost thru it’s path so there is hope for a quick resolution.
Hope she’s feeling a lot better.
Idaho sure seems to have their act together.
Compared to Commifornia it is about perfect.
Odd she didn’t have hematuria.
The classic description of a patient with ureterolithiasis is they have the appearance of a “cat on a hot tin roof”. While I’ve never seen a cat on a hot tin roof, the description is apt for the patients I’ve encountered. BTW 5 mm is at the upper limits for a stone that will pass spontaneously so I shall pass along my best wishes that it squirts outa there into the bladder.
She was shivering in the ER (and at home) they asked her if she was cold and she replied ‘not really, not sure why I am shivering.’
I don’t know if that is an example of ‘hematuria’ or not?
They did say that it was ‘borderline’ but as it had almost completed it’s path there is hope. They did get her a referral to a urologist in case it didn’t work it’s way thru.
Hematuria is blood in urine, would be picked up on a urine dipstick. Typically the stone will irritate the ureter lining causing bleeding.
Shivering is non specific, but I would always worry about sepsis. Urosepsis in the setting of an obstructing stone is an indication for stone retrieval. Have her take her temperature 2-3x/day, especially when shivering.
She didn’t have a fever and she went thru Sepsis a couple years ago so we were glad when that was ruled out.
They did mention that she had ‘trace amounts’ of blood in her urine sample, that pointed them toward kidney stone.
Her apple watch monitors her temp constantly, among other things. She has a ‘filter’ to use whenever she pees so she can catch the kidney stone. They said the urologist can determine what it is made of and advise how to keep any more from forming.
Oh that makes more sense, when you said the urine tested negative I assumed you meant no blood.
We/they were focused on the UTI that she thought she had when she went to urgent care on Friday. I believe they were talking about infection when they said it was negative.
The trace of blood was kind of a side note at that point, they did not mention it till later.
Still beats watching Kirk Cousins play for the Vikings
We have been ‘exposed’ to KCs play for years.
Kidney Stone came out of the blue (yellow?) and we were not ready/prepared.
Imagine trying to pass a kidney stone in excruciating pain whilst also watching Kirk throw short of the sticks on 4th down with the game on the line in the playoffs
8th level of hell
How many levels are there?
Nine per Dante in his novel Inferno.
Rec for the proper use of ‘whilst’.
Saw this:
“We are still waiting on a decision from Harrison Smith. It’s worth noting that the deadline is Friday at 3 pm CT for a resolution, as his contract voids at that point.”
We shall see…
I’m sorry – how could Murray be the favorite?
He’s a terrible fit for what KOC says he wants from a QB to run this offense.
Dunno… I agree Murray is not the prototypical QB for KOC’s scheme, but he can escape the pocket and make spectacular plays with his legs when a play breaks down. He has a better arm than folks tend to give him credit for too, but yeah… he’s not the processor KOC likes under center.
He has immense talent. Couple years back most everyone had him in top five of league. But his brand of quarterbacking is very different from KOC’s.
If he does come, KOC needs to completely change his scheme to his strengths.
Who the hell is most everyone? I don’t remember anyone saying he was top 5, not pundits or us idiots on this site, I mostly remember lifer berating him.
He was the #1 overall pick in the draft, and the pundits all loved him for his first few years. I think that’s what JR is referring to.
yeah I remember him being #1, don’t recall anyone ever calling him a top 5 nfl qb, I do remember his second and third seasons, people thought he was becoming a franchise qb, but nobody called him top five.
Most of the analysts on espn, FSN 1. the football network, Kurt Warner, just off my head for ‘who the hell.’
And if Lifer berated him, that’s another plus.
Now, he’s not my style of QB, to much sandlot, but he has a lot of pure talent (childish too).
Nobody called him top 5, that’s just hyperbole,
I sure as hell ain’t going back to 21 and look up shows.
Even if they did, so what. It was only like 3 years ago and those same people were saying that Justin Fields was the best QB in the NFC.
i remember people saying he was better than Kirk
I agree. Also, the protection up front has to be addressed. Because Kyler is short, he has to take a deeper drop than most QB’s (a la Russell Wilson, and Drew Brees). The O-line has to set a little shorter too, to give him space to operate. These aren’t hard adjustments, but they are adjustments.
KOC is trying to save his job and it is going to hurt this team’s chances at competing for a Bowl for minimum of five years. Mark my words.
Doesn’t matter what the Vikings do or who is in charge, the team isn’t competing for a championship for 5 years, are you a new Vikings fan or something?
Amen to that…most factual thing I’ve read on here in the last 30 days. This f’ing team…
Yeah, I’m also getting tired of just good enough to get in the playoffs and maybe win a game, but not realistic contenders. The Wilfs are good owners, built state of the art training facilities on their dime, always willing to spend to the cap, but it seems they are content with good not great and making profit.
Sure doesn’t seem like they care about winning
Care about winning just enough to keep the rubes filling the stadium
Probably could be said for half the league. 25 percent don’t spend/care enough, and the other 25 percent are consistent winners.
Spending has never been an issue for the Wilfs, well other than spending on the wrong players.
Yeah, they’re pretty good owners compared to a few others in the league. Hopefully we can finally find a GM that can draft well and put together a consistent winner.
Rec for truth.
Plus the Pohlads make the Wilfs look really good in comparison.
Yeah, they are willing spenders, far cry from old Red Mccombs who essentially sold Randy moss
Murray > Cousins
Brosmer>Cousins
That’s a half truth!
Wait…
That would be Murray > Cousins…
No rumors on Kirko’s next team that he plans on fleecing.
Makes me think he is coming back to Minny to retire a Viking for a second time.
Nah… I know he wants to play, and he wants to start, but it won’t be here. If the Vikings bring in another QB it will likely be Murray. They can’t resist that vet minimum contract, and who blames them?
I don’t think there’s situation out there that suits Cousins. I just don’t. May retire, or just wait till Stafford goes down, and take over the Rams starting job.
Makes me think he is going to get the hint he was never and will never be worth what he was paid, but he was paid that regardless and should retire from the grid iron.
15th in passing TD’s all time in the NFL, only two behind John Elway, in 50 fewer games. That’s what you call prolific. Sorry, reality is not your long suit here. Cousins was a top shelf starting QB for 10 years before injuries. I think he can still play at a very high level because he still has one of the fastest brains and most accurate arms in the league.
Yeah I didn’t even bother reading that. The robots answers have been predictable for years.
And wholly accurate.
Pittsburgh, Cleveland, or Arizona, I can’t see him in freak show central playing for the jets and I doubt he’d agree to play for that circus of a franchise in Cleveland but who knows, those are the only really guaranteed starters jobs. I think most likely is Pittsburgh, Rodgers looked pretty old last year and allegedly married a woman, I think he’s retiring.
None of those situations would be appealing enough for Cousins to move from Atlanta, uproot the family, etc. He’s close to the in-laws there, and it’s a good place for him. He isn’t signing with a team just to sign, and there just isn’t a viable situation out there for him IMO.
I don’t think there is an ideal situation either, but Pittsburgh would easily be the best situation. You think he just says enough and retires or does he still want to play bad enough to move one more time?
I think he only takes a deal where he thinks the team can contend for a Super Bowl. Otherwise, I think he moves on to broadcasting. Since the teams that are contenders all have QB’s, only an injury situation would bring him into the fold. So yeah, I think he’ll sit the season out, and see what happens.
Steelers maybe?
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Yes. Mine works fine.
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Falcons could go from Kirk to Penix to Tua.
Man…I think 28-3 broke them forever.
And we could go Kirk to Sam to JJ to. Kyler (or something better)
You forgot Dobbs, Mullens, Hall, Wentz, and Brosmer.
I was just doing the cliffnotes version.
I don’t think we will get over the Darnold thing for a long, long time unless the Vikes really suck this year and get a high draft pick and get Manning or something. Then Peyton and Eli will be our OCs.
I don’t think so either. It got KAM fired (should have) and we became a bit of a joke to the majority of the football world.
OK… I’m going on record here regarding Arch Manning. I don’t think he’s that good.
I am open to that.
He’s got the talent, shows glimpses of great QB play at times. He’s just had so much pressure on him from the outside because of the name. If he takes the longhorns to the championship and wins, he’ll be a top 3 pick in next year’s draft.
Depends what you mean by “that good” he’s named after Archie manning, nephew of Peyton and Eli. The expectations coming out of high school were pretty immense. I don’t think he’s the best QB in college football or anything, but his first year as a starter was about what you’d expect, some ups and downs but decent overall, we’ll see what he does this year but most likely he’ll go into the draft for’27
I think he’s a very, very average QB. I mean, absolutely not special.
He’s got a lot to prove. This is a huge year for him to do it.
100% agree.
I didn’t really see anything special about him either, good arm, decent mobility, ok in most areas, but he’ll be overrated and have higher expectations because of his name. Perhaps he’s better next season but he’ll likely be overdrafted because of his name, not being able to beat out Ewers is kind of telling too. I don’t think he sucks but he isn’t bad either.
Agreed. I have said that for some time. People probably would never/will never know his name if he wasn’t related to the other Mannings.
The Darnold thing will haunt us for years, if not decades (if the planet survives that long, that is).
We had Darnold and Daniel Jones in the QB room, and ended up with McCarthy, Brosmer, and Wentz. Yeah… not a good plan there.
Yup, thanks Kwesi. Went from the best QB room in the league to… “Nine”.
I have serious doubts about McCarthy at this point… honestly. I know the “sample size” is small, but damn… he’s literally the worst passing QB in the league.
I was over it when we let him go a year ago. I will not opine for ex’s. Vikes offered him the same amount and he chose not to stay. Is what it is. Crying about it just gets old at this point.
Manning…ugh…I’m all in for Dante Moore.
I got MRI results yesterday on my Cousins like Achilles. So naturally I figured I would come see if MT was around.
So it’s a genetic issue?
Part of it actually is and partly not.
Haglund’s Deformity
Partially Torn Achilles Tendon
Split Tear in Peroneus Longus Tendon
Handful of Bone Spurs
Been dealing with most of it since 2007ish when I ran Cross Country/Track in college.
I think I fudged it up worse in Paris in October. Tried shockwave therapy and a growth hormone injection. Nothing worked.
Have you tried Dr Alfredson’s Protocol for Achilles Tendinopoly.
It has become the gold standard for just about all tendon rehab programs.
They don’t want me to do step one at all right now
Hey CMy, hope you can get that fixed and you’re back on your feet in no time. Management of the partially torn Achilles tendon would typically be non-operative but the Haglund deformity may weigh in the orthopod’s decision to consider operative management. Peroneus longus splits is pretty common and definitely non operative. Here is a blurb from radsource on Achilles tendon tear management…
Meeting with the surgeon on Friday.
I’m leaning towards surgery to get the Haglund removed. It’s the size of a golf ball at this point.
The remaining questions are really
So you’re deformed like your cousin, interesting. I am genuinely curious how many bone spurs are contained in a handful.
I think 4
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Hey, amigo!
How have you guys been?
Morning GF. All’s well in Tampa today. Waiting to see if the Vikings do much in free agency over the rest of the week.
You think Cousins has a landing spot?
I don’t know?
Vikings did good yesterday signing James Pierre IMO. The guy is 6’2″ which is very tall for a CB. His pass defense stats were great last year, so he looks like a guy we can use. Murray’s management team won’t talk to anyone until the Cardinals officially release him. That is supposed to happen tomorrow at 4 p.m. ET as I understand it. Everyone thinks he’s coming here. If he does what does that say about McCarthy? Bust?
McCarthy > Cousins
McCarthy = Hienicke
Bust – ? But last year certainly opened some eyes and all options are on the table.
McCarthy’s on-target pass rate was 59% last year. The worst in the NFL. The average in the league is 74.5% and Cousins averaged close to 80% over his six seasons here. So yeah, McCarthy has serious issues throwing the ball. People talk about a small sample size, but Cousins was never a guy who missed his receivers by a large margin, on the regular. He was always known as an accurate passer, even in High School. So I wonder how we’re supposed to have a lot of confidence in McCarthy?
BTW McCarthy also attained the worst bad pass rate in the NFL at 24.1%.
It says McCarthy won’t be the starter this upcoming season, they’re not signing midget clown unless he’s the starter. What it means for the rest of his career is up to JJ, if he develops he’ll be the starter here or somewhere else, if not he’ll likely be a journeyman backup
Murray is not guaranteed to be the starter if he signs with the vikes imo. It would be a very cheap one year deal, and I believe that there will be a legitimate competition between the two during training camp and pre-season.
Murray is a much better QB than McCarthy at this point. MUCH better.
Yeah, probably at this point, but I do think there will be legitimate competition between the two if we sign him.
I hope he is a one year cheap deal.
If he comes with a multi year deal it would mean that JJ QB is pretty much toast.
It would be a one year deal at around 1.5 million. The Cardinals are on the hook for like 30 some million. So he’s gonna make good money either way this season, but his new team doesn’t have to pay much.
…..there is no reason for any team to give him a multi year deal this year.
Unless he refuses to sign unless he gets more years.
Then it is up to the team either give it to him or pass.
I believe it comes with a bed, too.
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