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Caleb Banks is surely a bust according to some people because reasons, they’ll continue to piss and moan about it until he gets on the field, or if he has chronic issues they’ll complain forever.
Not much new since the draft, other than Jauan Jennings being in town for a free agent visit. According to Niners Nation, he is overpricing his value.
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Hmmm… didn’t we draft 2 D-linemen?
One of our ‘depth pieces’ is not so good?
We plan to lots and lots of rotations/swaping out to keep our DL fresh??
6-4, 320lb out of Missouri St.
Looks more like a camp body while Caleb finishes healing up.
I looked at this guys history. Singularly unimpressive. Looks like a true backup player.
The wife is cooking up red beans and rice with sausage for dinner. Smells great!
What’s with the downvotes? I guess some people aren’t red beans and rice fans? I love them, especially with andouille sausage
Hey Ben, anyone who downvoted this post just plain has issues. What can I tell you, they’re scapegraces.
‘A scapegrace is a reckless, mischievous, or unprincipled person—often described as a rascal, scamp, or ne’er-do-well’
I had never heard the term before, nor had The Teacher. Must be a eastern thing.
Well I have always understood it to mean a mean spirited person, so maybe I was slightly askew here. I read that in a book a long, long time ago (like in the early 70’s). Stuck with me.
‘ne’er-do-well’ certainly suggests an older term that is out of current main stream use.
I enjoy expanding my vocabulary but I honestly can’t see where I might get an opportunity to use it, other than here now.
I write off the top of my head, but sometimes things just seem to pop into my consciousness. I refer to one of our cats as a rapscallion because she gets up on the dresser and makes off with things. Then we have to search the house to find it. She likes cuff links, golf tees, pens, etc.
I have A set of cufflinks, not worn since my sons wedding some 15 years ago.
I of course own NO ‘golf tees’ which is utterly correct and logical.
Even more correct and logical is the absence of cats.
Thanks to all – still getting used to it.
Wish posters would be nicer to each other.
Humility goes a long way. Its desperately lacking in some. Congrats on becoming a Grandfather! Thats awesome, and its a feeling I hope to feel myself some day. Now you got some grandkids to spoil!
Happy Granfatherhood!
I am officially old. I walked off the golf course today after 5 holes because it was too cold. It was 45 degrees with a 15 mph wind. I was dressed in shorts and a polo….I was 4 over through 5….no way I would have quit in years past….
Laughing… shorts and a polo in 45 degree weather. I played in those temps back in the day, but I actually wore clothes.
My man you knew the weather, its been the same here the past week or two, golf pants and a jacket and you were fine. Its not shorts and T shirt weather today. You were rocking it golfing though. Im hoping to be in the 90s consistently this summer.
It was 45 degrees with a 15 mph wind.
golfed Sunday, it was 50 and windy, but I wore more clothes.
Still too damned cold for me.
Here’s an easy one for you.
I am between 4 and 6. I am not 5.
What am I?
Happy hour
Usually… grin. Not the answer though.
The Shortstop?
Laughing… ummm no… much more obvious than that.
The word “and”?
Correct!
and
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
A study has found that a woman’s attraction to a man’s face varies with her menstrual cycle. Ovulating women prefer rugged, masculine features, while menstruating or menopausal women are drawn to a man with duct tape over his mouth.
We must run in similar social circles. Couple of my buddies texted that meme to me yesterday.
Let that sink in as the league and the union work out a labor deal.
Missed my calling
Laughing
These used to be great commercials… whoever did this is a genius…
I”m having quite a week.
For the very good. I just became a grandfather.
For pretty good, down in West Palm babysitting my other child’s house of animals for a few days. Love em, but what a bunch of work.
Lastly, for those of you who like bro humor, take a look at some of the “Anatoly” videos. He puts the big boys right in their place.
Nice to hear from you, and congrats on the grandchild. Sounds like things are going well.
Congrats!
Congrats on the grandchild! I love being a Grandpa. Will you be working on a special name! Mine call me Poppy.
Congratulations!
Congrats to your kid on the sex!
The Pendulum Swings back…
In the 70’s we were doomed to an ice age.
In the 80’s we were doomed to the greenhouse effect.
In the 2000’s it was climate change….
Now, it’s back to an Ice age.
‘Former Vice President Al Gore warned a Hollywood audience this week that a “Gulf Stream collapse” could occur within 25 years, leading to an abrupt and devastating new Ice Age’
And of course it is Trumps fault but if you give the Dims/Woke/Libs enough money they will be able to ‘fix it’.
Most glaciologists will tell you and extended warming period will trigger increased glaciation. But in this case, Mr. Gore may just be looking for more speaking engagements. I likely will not lose any sleep
And one has to go back and merely read what he said in 2006, and then later in 12 and 13 – according to Big Al we all should be gone by now.
Think Tipper got it right, and she divorced his ass.
That playbook has worked for the Dem’s for a long time. Alarmist politics get you noticed as a champion of the crisis du jour. The Dem’s have lived on their reputation of being the Champions of the down-trodden, the underserved, the minorities, the threatened, and of course the disaster that will destroy the planet. They have exaggerated all of those and exploited them for decades. In the end they have never affected any positive change though. Ever. They can only exist as long as people are convinced these existential threats are real and will end them.
Al Gore is a friggin ding bat, this environmental hysteria is dumb and so old… but don’t pretend like the Redumblicans are against taking money. It’s just so hard to take people seriously on either side that can’t just call out a bad idea for being a bad idea no matter who says it. Always have to virtue signal that they hate the other side more. Sheesh, you’re a well trained dog.
Except all this climate crisis crap, and all the excessive taxation, and all Marxist movements, and all the violent protests, all the bat shit crazy policies don’t come from the right.
Do you see how DE is able to just point out how stupid this shit Al Gore said without having to virtual signal his side? See how it’s possible? Quit giving stupid ideas and stupid people like Al Gore the excuse or out that it’s because he’s a Dem… Listen, he would be a turn no matter what side he is on. Also… the right also loves taxation and have absolutely had violent protests along with bat shit crazy policies as well. I mean, this is simple shit man.
No one virtue signaled anything. The truth is the truth. That’s all that is being posted.
And no, the right doesn’t have bat shit crazy policies, violent protests, or the kind of extremist taxation like Spanberger and California has thrown down. 50 new taxes in Virginia in a week? Yeah.
They had it right in the 2000’s, climate change is real and has been happening long before man walked the earth and will continue.
Agreed.
The climate has been changing since the earth developed it.
Hmmm… here’s a snippet from the Wilf’s statement:
“We have also engaged respected firm TurnkeyZRG to assist in conducting a wide-ranging search that includes experienced football executives, emerging candidates and individuals with diverse professional backgrounds. Our focus is to identify a decisive leader with a clear vision for team building, strong communication skills and the ability to build alignment across an organization.”
If I was hiring someone to run a multi billion dollar professional football organization, I’d be looking for a guy with a proven background in that regard. Someone with vast experience in the NFL working with other people who were highly successful in that endeavor. Someone who understands NFL contracts, cap management, player evaluation, and organizational structures. Someone who knows how to run things. Someone who has established relationships in the league, and is highly respected. Someone who has the requisite knowledge and understanding to ensure a team doesn’t do stupid things, and falter. Someone with a plan, and defined operational processes to achieve specific football excellence objectives. Someone who has an proven sense of horse trading who can bring in talent, in a reasonable way.
So is Rob Brzezinski still in the mix? If not was this always the plan or a condemnation of his draft?
Personally, I think it will be Brzez.
Everything else is a dog and pony show.
Just my WAG.
Agreed
There’s this dude on the Seahawks staff from Fulda MN that has been with the Seahawks quite awhile, since the heyday of the Russell Wilson/Marshawn Lynch SBs. I bet he will try to interview.
Trent Kirchner, VP of Seahawks Player Personnel.
‘Last time I had that much fun I was at the Fulda Fair….’
a phrase my father still uses
I was at the Fulda Wood Duck festival once. I turned 21 and took a little bit too much advantage. I did not do anything crazy, but man I got sick…
I claim Fuldaral !!
I felt like this too. Like this is all to say we didn’t just give him the keys we did our due diligence etc…
Who would Judas Brzez go around behind their back to do traded if he’s the GM??!!
You have a tail? Not that I’m judging.
He hasn’t even indicated he’s interested in the job permanently, my guess is he’d rather just go back to his computer lab crunching salary cap numbers.
Clearly a match made in heaven…
All these businesses these days talk about how they want alignment, consensus, and collaboration, but the most successful organization I ever worked for was a mine, with one guy at the top who called the shots and everyone followed directions. Did he take input from people, of course but ultimately he didn’t care about alignment or diversity, he cared about the company making money, or you could say winning. He was very much a “fuck your feelings type of guy” apparently the snowflake generations of millennials and those after can’t handle such an approach.
At one point in my career, I ran a large Government organization with a $15B budget and thousands of people stationed all over the world. The first day on the job I took the huge org chart picture on the wall in my office and turned it upside down. Nobody noticed it initially, but one morning a staff member came in and realized it was upside down. She looked at me and said “somebody flipped the org chart upside down”. I looked up at her and told her I had done that. Of course she had to ask why. I told her “because the way it was hanging gave people the wrong impression”. She wasn’t following me, so I explained it to her. I told her an org chart shows one entity at the top, then cascades down with all these other entities under that person. Visually it looks like all those folks are there to support one person. In my mind I was not there to be supported by thousands of people all over the world. Rather, I was there to support them. It was my singular job to do everything possible to make them successful. I never told another person that story, but somehow everyone knew about it within a week.
Anyone want to throw their hat in the ring?
Is Mike Zimmer available?
I don’t know who Jauan Jennings is, which is weird, because I sort of watch the 49ers.
I looked him up and already know it’s a doomed option. Always factor in the hair. His hair says trouble.
But he would fit right in with the gay cheerleaders.
They could help him pick out the colors.
A genuine dual threat player!
Jennings would be a sweet get, although how do you spin “and here is who you will have throwing to you for the next 3 years” with mcmidget and mcfragile and mcnorthdakotaduckhunter as the options??
With $$ of course.
Honestly, this is about the money to Jennings. Right up front he’s not the #1 WR, so he’s not getting as many balls no matter who is under center. The Vikings are a good organization so coming here is palpable to him. He wants a multi year deal, and the 49ers weren’t giving him one. Honestly I think we could at best, offer a 3 year deal, with a void year or two attached to be able to afford him.
Remember all the hopes and dreams associated with Moritz Bohringer?
No, only dummies had hopes and dreams associated with him
I should go back and see who was picked after him in the sixth and seventh rounds, plus UDFAs, and come back with a “we could have had ______ the future HOF _________” instead of das deutschlander.
Agreed, there were people on DN that were really really into him. Even I thought it was dumb then.
I had hopes, as I do with all of the players that the Vikings acquire.
‘Hope for the best but expect the worst’.
It is very possible that none of those QBs are starting for this team in 2028.
I do think McFragile/McPonder could be the starter in 2027.
I think if they are going after Jennings, the result will be trading McDUI/Addison
If the team plans on McCarthy being the de facto starter in 2027, what sort of contract do they offer him in the offseason?
None…. wait until 28 at the earliest
I’m not understanding why McCarthy should be getting a new contract in 2027. You aren’t the first.
He is on his rookie contract and per CBA rules he can’t change a thing.
Then, it’s up to the Vikings to exercise the fifth year option for 2028.
McFragile can’t do anything about it, unless he wants to holdout and get fined.
He can renegotiate his rookie deal after three years per the CBA. He can also refuse to play in 2027 unless he gets a new deal. So if he says I want a new contract next year, the team will be forced to do something.
We will be forced to call his bluff. Lets say, and i hope i am right, that he wins the starter job, stays healthy and has a good year. That means his NFL career is:
Year 1: injured all year
Year 2: injured for 1/3 of the season and very iffy in most games
Year 3: healthy and a decent year.
He would be out of his mind to hold out, because at that point in his career there are more questions than knowns
Striking while the iron is hot as they say, is a strategy agents support. If McCarthy were to have a good year then asking for a new contract right then would make sense. Agents aren’t dumb. They know you have get, while the gettin’s good. It’s business.
He would get fined $40,000 per day.
Just a really silly take by you on a QB that has no leverage.
I guess his kid doesn’t eat.
Well that’s if he didn’t show up. That’s called a holdout. Players now use the hold-in strategy which avoids those fines. They show up, but they don’t participate, and usually nurse some claimed injury. NFL teams under the CBA have some recourse for this behavior, including fines, but generally the better the player, the less likely a team will exercise their rights. Whether there is an ongoing attempt to negotiate a new contract with the player will also help determine how a team will proceed. Teams don’t want the publicity or the inherent disgruntlement of the player affecting them.
Pretending a player cannot hold-in as a ploy to garner a new contract, especially if they are doing so because they have proven they are the QBOTF as it were, is a little short sighted.
‘They show up, but they don’t participate, and usually nurse some claimed injury’
It is called ‘Playing Hock’.
True
The question i think is relevant to discuss is: If he has a decent year 3, do we consider him the QBOTF?
He was drafted to be the QBOTF, and lots of people want to be “right” about that IMO. If he has a good year, the “I told you so” crowd is going to be vociferous. The team will have to decide if he’s really that guy or not. Even if Murray starts all year, and McCarthy sits, there will be a group of folks next year saying it’s his time to take the reins.
If he holds out or in you cut bait, pack him a sandwich and send him on his way. It would only be a $3 mil dead cap if cut in 2027.
It has become the modern standard that if your QB is “the guy” that he is signed to a LT deal end of year 3…Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, etc…price will only go up up up after that. As NVF points out, the player and his agent can always come up with ways to force the team’s hand.
This was predicated on Surly mentioning that he thinks McCarthy could be the 2027 starter. That implies a dominant performance in 2026.
Nothing.
If he does not suck this season, I would expect the team to start discussing an extension after or near the end of the 2027 season.
If he still sucks this year, none of this matters and the team is drafting his replacement next year.
Good song up top – one of his best. Life on Mars and Under Pressure are a couple more of my favorites.
Agreed.
’Starman’ is my personal favorite.
Hero’s is also right up there.
modern love. good bari sax solo
It’s hard for me to pick a fave, i like so many of his songs, my best friend and I used to sing that song in the army but replaced Rebel Rebel with Battle Battle and things like you tore your sack, etc
Several WR3 options on this list including our ‘old pal’ Stefon Diggs.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/nfl-best-available-free-agents-some-big-name-veterans-like-tyreek-hill-and-stefon-diggs-remain-for-teams-to-sign-225407781.html
Diggs has made his rounds in the NFL. I think teams have balanced his talent against his effect on the team during his career. He certainly has made his fair share of great plays, but the Diva image eventually wears thin.
Not to mention his current legal issues.
‘He’s also facing felony strangulation charges in an alleged pay dispute with a former chef’
Yep… he’s basically a problem child.
I remember Brain Robinson in his ’96 Questions’ asked Vikings in the locker room ‘which teammate would you not want to date your sister’. Almost all of them answered ‘Stefon Diggs’.
‘Not much new since the draft, other than Jauan Jennings being in town for a free agent visit’
Did you miss the story about a possible new GM??
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/vikings-gm-211533496.html
Not even confirmation of an interview, not noteworthy, just conjecture about some guy who quit his job. Maybe something comes of it but it’s nothing as of now.
‘just conjecture’
But that is about 90% of what we do around here.
Do whatever you want in the comments, I’m not putting in the post.
Just trying to stir up some comments/activity this morning.
Saw some online commentary that the Vikings are working on a multi year deal with Jennings “if they can get the money right”.
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