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Wow, here’s a summary of that game.
I have nothing more. Oh wait, yeah I do. The punter looked good, so did the coverage units. Oh, and I suppose we’re tied for first in the division, so yippy friggin skippy. Oh, and now Harrison Smith is out with a concussion, link courtesy of CBS Sports. Ugly game. I feel dirty having watched it. Yuck. It’s week two, and there’s a LONG season to go. Buckle up, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride. NOW I have nothing more.

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Here’s a post-game wrap-up. Yuck.
Video of the Day:
LOL, here you go. I’m listening to this as I type, laughing my a** off. I’m not sure why this is so funny.
Post game report card up posting tomorrow morning.
Flight early tomorrow morning. I’ll be in and out most of this week/weekend until Tuesday. I’ll miss the kitties game for sure. I’ll be in the middle of the Atlantic fishing for tuna and/or sharks sunday all day. Hope we win and believe we rebound big time
Good luck on the fish. Buddy just got a big blue fin there last week. Don’t worry about the Vikings, lose by 14 or lose by 40 it’s still just 1 loss.
I mean shit…you look at these next games coming up it’s actually pretty favorable to the bye imo. If they get curb stomped by the kitty’s then all bets are off but it’s a divisional game teams know each other likely a rock fight. I could see us at 4-2 best case 3-3 worse case. If they’re 2-4 fuck’em I’ll be ready to cuck, buck and bail on the season.
Lions will be a loss. Taints in Limeyville, loss. Dabares we have a chance so unless we really stink it up, we win. Fins will kill us. 2-4 into the bye and then the next chance we have to win is the jets.
I already told everyone not to panic unless we lose to lions. It was an L before the season kicked off playing eagles. We haven’t lost a game we should’ve won yet.
and actually may have won a game we should’nt have won. 3-3 or better into bye is fine with me for now.
easy games like giants jets pats colts and Wash post bye.
we’ll sweep the bears and cards don’t look that great
All in all, 9 wins still looks good
Reality we should begin to accept is this is a rebuilding year. Not as much of one as some would like but a blow up would have resulted in likely losing top young guys when its time to pay and keep them. My guess Cook, Cousins, Harry, Thielen will all be gone in the next two yrs so there will be time and money to bring in the players they want to build it the way they want plus two drafts. Team will be much different with a new QB.
100% disagree. It’s a two year window right now. Doesn’t work out then its full on rebuild.
lol, that 2 year window has been there for 7 years and we haven’t even made the playoffs the last 2. Lol, 2 year window my left nut.
I think we miss the playoffs this year all those players I listed could be gone next year. Have to check their contracts but that’s what I would do.blow it up.
Who’s panicking? Oh, sorry, you meant Cousins. Carry on.
He certaintly did
Is anyone going to bet on the Vikings this weekend?
Float me $50 Liv. Will bet for you.
I’ve seen too many push offs and wide lefts to put money on the Vikings this year, lol
I already teased the lions (+12 1/2) and the chargers just to win
I think we lose 31-17 but I don’t see betting on it. We have to wins some games to ruin our draft order, but I don’t see them.
Irv can still be good, it’s week two. He needs to get his head out of his ass, though. The entire offense was off last night. Also, why stop giving the ball to Cook? He only got 6 carries. One of the best RB in the league, and you give him 6 carries?
Yeah the game plan going in was bad, when it didn’t work they overreacted and it took them out of their entire game plan. Then the adjustments were bad. It was all bad. Simply got out coached and our players fell apart in the process. Feels more like this is a 9-7 team but there’s always a chance to play better and find some things that make you more competitive. We’ll see but not holding out much hope.
I think little KOC was fixated on Smith. It ain’t going to work out well, when you take passes away from 700, 800, 1400 yard receivers to give to Smith.
He dropped 3 passes I counted, two the DB’s hands were in there but he does nothing with his body, which is what a TE is supposed to do, to shield out the DB. Irv sucked.
He’s on my fantasy bench. I should shoot him a tweet and tell him to get his act together.
A lot of fantasy is about targets and last night was encouraging with the opportunities he’s getting. Had he caught the one he dropped he probably scores and its a massive points night for him. Too early to give up on him but damn it man get your shit together.
But this is….well…
https://twitter.com/skolbros/status/1572042103714357250?s=21&t=coFDwomkRt6hxChDAPZSuQ
that would scare him!!! Lol
7-9 if we get really lucky. Dabares, jets, giants and then a few upsets to get there.
Smith’s ceiling is 365 yards. That’s what he’s done in his best year.
New coach is anti zimmerball, innovative and new age which means don’t run the ball
I didn’t realize it meant don’t catch the ball either. These damn new fangled ideas these damn kids have, I can’t keep up. Can we win if we punt in volume?
I’m waiting for nothing but BeakerSneaks(tm)
lol, our only hope
When you’re down a million it’s hard to run. But overall I agree. Cook needs involved more
Inside the 30 last night, Kirk was 2/9 with 3 interceptions. There’s no way to look at that and say he didn’t have a bad game. He was horrible. Looked like a scared chihuahua out there. Pretty sure he peed himself twice. When he’s like that, they need to give him a shot or two of tequila. I’m not kidding. You could see it on his face, he had that Beavis face where he’s all tense. No reason for it, either. The O-line held up pretty well, they were one of the few bright spots, against a strong pass rush. Can’t have that.
Hmmm, wonder if he saw the ghost of Zimmer past…
PS… 2/9 with 3 interceptions.
Let me put this one partly on the GM and coach:
1) Take away his Rudy as the top Red Zone target.
2) Take away his Thielen as his top Red Zone target.
3) Give him a nobody, like Smith.
I don’t get that, I guess. He has JJ, AT, KJ at times, Cook, lots of options. It seemed like he either forced it into something that wasn’t there, or just made bad throws at times. He had a few nice throws, too, but you can’t make that many bad throws. Also, maybe consider not throwing at Slay.
Personal preference, based on a thousand years of playground football and jump-ball basketball, that probably means nothing.
If I’m looking to the end zone, I want a big guy/Gronk that I can see, and who I know who can go up for the ball, not a hundred guys all shorter than the linebackers covering them in traffic. Playing basketball, you don’t pass to a short guy in the middle unless you want him clobbered, you want the guy who can go up and get it.
That’s why it was weirder than crap that he barely looked at Thielen in the Red Zone and was fixated on Cook. How was he going to thread that needle?
The playcall ending up in a pick with JJ was weird. We’re all used to end zone leaps by Thielen over the top of someone or corner fades or whatever. JJ slant/crossing route into traffic in short yardage? Who does that? Even JJ seemed like his body instinctually knew it was better to head to an open area.
Saw a video the other day of passes being caught before the rule change when the receivers would get laid out going across the middle like lifers wife w/a troop ship in. It was glorious. Too bad they took that part of the game away.
Calls on db’s are beyond belief! Ref! He touched me!
new rules
So you’re telling me all this time her trips down to the docks was more than getting the catch of the day?
Lol, depends on what she caught, lol
Zim’s fault
Right? There’s no excuse for that performance. I understand that there were drops, which is on the receivers, but the horrible decisions and, at other times, lack of decision, stalled the offense. The coaching was bad, too, but Kirk was the weakest link out there.
Correct, look at the two sacks, he stood there for five seconds in the pocket and didn’t get rid of the ball, JJ was partly responsible for one of the picks, but it could have been as many as 5 picks if Philly cbs could catch. Burn the tape and move on to Detroit.
NFL scoring.
Bills-72
Lions-71
Chefs-70
How they come up Purple -6.5 after last night hard to believe.
Right now we’re 25th in points scored with 30 points… Yikes, this is bad even for the 70’s
Meh, it’s only week two. One good game spikes the average. The offense was average in the first game, far below average in the second, hopefully they can find their groove against the Lions, who are looking much better than they have in previous years. They’ll be a tough out, even at home, I hope we’re wearing our big boy panties, we’ll need ’em.
Hey Ben, this gif needs beakers face on it like the guy trying to wash his car, lol.
Because we scored 30. The line is decided by bets and too many casual fans still think the Lions suck. After scoring 100 points or more in 3 games, people will start to notice.
Bet the lions then
I’m w/MT and find it silly to bet on something that can change in the blink of an eye. Beaker of goff go down, game over.
Bc lions def is bad. If our offense can’t score it’s a problem.
if our defense can hold lions to 24 or less we’ll win. I think we drop a 35 bomb on them
lions offense is good
We’ve scored 30 total so far, we’ll see if we can get another Red Zone score anytime this century.
Skolly is still in never never land
After the tape from the last 2 games, I expect we lose by at least 2 scores. Lions had some guys get hurt, not sure if they will be back. Could make it close.
We lose we can probably start to write the team off. But until then, we won a game we weren’t supposed to win, and lost a game we should.
Nothing earth shattering thus far. Loss to Lions at home is bad.
Lol, I wrote this team off years ago. Need a major change to be competitive. Right now we suck.
Harry out? Cine in?
Cines riding the pine for whatever reason so….
O’Connell obviously hates rookies.
Or Kwesi cant draft em
Greasy’s late rd cb is better than hus 1st and 2nd rd dbacks. How did the rg do last night?
Don’t harry clears concussion protocols in time
I gota be honest with ya all. How I feel lately
“We’re going to win so much that you’re going to be sick and tired. You’re going to say, ‘Please, please, Mr. President, we’re sick and tired of winning. Please let us have at least one loss. It’s no longer exciting to win.’ And I’m going to say, ‘No way, we’re going to keep winning, and I don’t care if you like it or not.’”
Does anybody have that gif of that older guy giving a look of oof/ouch?
this one?
yes, thanks! Is that in here and under what search?
yeah search “oof”
It’s directly above your comment, ya’ psycho. Just right click on the image.
what’s that from? some sport
does soccer count as a sport?
NO!
Only if it girls in lingerie
2015
week 1: win at home
week 2: 17 point loss on the road
[…]
won the NFC North
2017
week 1: win at home
week 2: 17 point loss on the road
[…]
won the NFC North
2022
week 1: win at home
week 2: 17 point loss on the road
[…]
? ? ?
lost NFC North
BINGO!
We have a good chance to come in 3rd, but we would need some luck
I was actually thinking about that 2015 game against SF a lot last night, felt very similar.
Except we were a much younger team on defense..we still have some of those players..7 years later.
IDK, probably pretty similar overall, that defense had Newman, Greenway, Dejo, B-Rob all starters at around or over 30 y/o (well over 30 for Newman)
There it is, right there. We have been doing the same damn thing for 7 years and have gotten nowhere. Band aids, bring in some old geezer vets to stumble around. Oline is musical chairs(might actually be near fixed), get 2 guys in the draft when you need 4. Same shit year in and year out, losing.
Our current defense is nowhere near the 2015 or 2017 teams.
What?? You don’t think we will be top 5 defense? Hell we held ’em under 200 yards. WTF?? Lol
2015 week one was a loss, we got spanked by the 49ers. Remember Dilfer?
LOL….
Fake data from PPB?
Unless I’m mis-remembering the year. That could be, too.
GO TWINS! GO WILD!
Preseason. Avs/Wild, Sun/Tues. Wish they would televise.
nice, hope your dirty players don’t try to cheap shot our guys, especially that punk turdway
LOL. Pipeline players.
yeah, it will be all rookies/minor guys
Come on out Chef!
They win the West.
Got a good shot. Think oil have a shot
I don’t pay attention to hockey these days until at least after American Thanksgiving.
Summer isn’t even over, and seems like they just got done with hockey in July or something. Too soon.
Jack Campbell in goal, signed Kane, trying out some thug, Herr Drai might score 60…or they could piss it down their leg…who knows? Way too soon to care about hockey, I agree.
Solstice tomorrow!!!
Today is National Crime and Intelligence Analyst Appreciation Day
Anal yst appreciation
The Lions put up a way better fight against the Eggles than we did….
We are going to lose this weekend.
No we won’t. On the road maybe, but I think they come out pissed off and motivated.
Eagles defense was slow week 1. They definitely adjusted and looked better after not really playing in preseason
Iggles defense wasn’t slow, the Lions are just that good. Wait until they run for 200 on us again. Our run D stinks. Then throw in long balls to keep us honest ans we will get massacred
Yep, we are going to look just like we did last night. Get beat like a fat girl falling down 3 flights of stairs. I expect better garbage time though, so we might score 2-3 times to get within 2 scores.
has irv been cut yet?
Nah, they’ll have a team kumbaya session and hug it out tomorrow then try the same thing on Sunday so he has a chance to redeem himself.
Lol, I wonder how that new positive vibe around the locker room is doing. All fun and games until you are once again embarrassed on national tv.
I saw Thielen yakking up the teamspeakkumbaya.
“We’re all in this together, we’re resilient, blah blah blah”
Not him, too.
Let’s see what they say after losing to the Lions 55-3, lol.
I’m pretty used to the other kinda quotes, like, “They went down with their ship”
They all went down with the burning dumpster
I wish…
Told you guys Irv sucks. Has done nothing for the team and drops balls in critical situations. Hard to see. I mean, everyone has those from time to time, but I’ve had some burned in my mind with him in the past (esp. 3rd down drops), along with no separation. Yet, everybody has been saying he’s a weapon and he’s the answer. He’s not.
And a couple comments about Kirk – yes he sucked yesterday. But had his team not had terrible drops, the game would have been much closer and he probably wouldn’t have had to force some bad balls to try to score and save time. It’s easy to say he sucked, but if they were within 7-10 points, he doesn’t throw several of those balls that are picked or were almost picked. That doesn’t necessarily excuse some throws, but when you’re down 3 scores with limited time you have to chuck and hope to an extent. But maybe not to Slay’s area…
Defense was good enough to win (obviously not great, esp. 1st half when Eagles were trying), with a blocked kick and interception. Over the past several years, every time the Vikings get a turnover, I often say out loud “they better get in the end zone, or they won’t score here”, and often times, I’m right. If Hicks or Boyd runs those back, different game obviously (though they can’t be expected to score). I thought I was more confident in KOC turning those into points, but no. Playcalling was BAD. Maybe some runs? Maybe some quick slants? Good grief, I thought we had a guru. Too much confidence last week and a reality check is good for everyone.
Yeah Irv sucks. Kirk sucked. It all sucked, except the ST and second half defense.
I’m not buying the 2nd half defense was good. Isn’t it more likely they just didn’t try as hard and scheme as aggressive in the 2nd half?
I mean, have to give them credit for a blocked kick (rare) and interception.
I’m sure there is something to that as well.
yeah, it was totally on the iggles turning it down. They could have scored 3 more times if they needed to
Idk about second half defense either. I think eagles were up so much they didn’t care to do anything crazy
I don’t know if the Eagles players were letting their foot off the gas but the coaches didn’t seem to, they were still throwing the ball midway through the 4th quarter and Hurts got picked off, not that it mattered cause Kirk threw a pick right back but I was kinda surprised they were throwing that late in a blowout.
That wasn’t a blow out. Wait until Sunday if you want to see a blowout.
Do 3 almost 4 picks in the RZ count as dropped passes and not Kirks fault for you? Are you willingly ignoring that?
Yeah, agreed, can’t give Kirk a pass for that performance last night. Dropped passes or not, he sucked wet donkey balls.
ewwwwwwwwwwww
The donkeys are his biggest fans.
Way better than sucking a wet fart off of a fat whore that someone who wasn’t me, used earlier.
Yeah, not trying to give him a pass. Just saying desperation plays when down a bunch with limited time made him look worse. I don’t think he makes a lot of those throws/errors if Irv catches his perfect pass and scores (no credit for that or those several to Theilen by the way) or the defense doesn’t give up 21 points immediately. Desperation makes anyone look worse.
He also missed a few reads on wr’s wide open when he checked down. He throws a damn screen pass when the guy has 4 guys within 2 yards of the rb. Those are things you shouldn;t be doing with his experience. Always going to be excuses, nobody in the GM seat would excuse those mistakes though.
Agreed. Im kinda glad, I hope Kwesi isnt a blinded by the rubes that Rick was. I hope performances like these open his eyes that we need to focus on drafting a young stud and be willing to gamble.
It really depends on the money grubber wolves. If the task was “win a Owl or you’re fired” they would go get a qb
I’m beginning to think the Wilfs can screw up QB picking as bad as the Browns.
If you draft high it’s easier to hit. The top guys go top 6 usually and it’s too hard to jump over 8 spots to try to get up there and if you d you lose a ton of draft capital.
So on one hand, “you have to draft a guy”, but it’s also hard if you don’t have a top 6 pick, and you’d have to give up a ton of draft capital to do it if you don’t have a bad record. Almost like it’s a tough situation to manage and no easy solution? I mean, I guess you could sacrifice a ton of capital on a gamble, but you seem to be against that argument here. What exactly is your plan if that doesn’t seem like the right option? Tank with someone for a year?
yeah, bascially do the rebuild. You don’t always have to do a full rebuild though. If I was running the team I would have traded beaker and for sure not extended him. I would have moved Harry before last year, likely traded Hunter although the injury makes that harder. Maybe cook too. Then, you have draft capital and you roll with Baker or the like.
Yeah, it might come to that, otherwise it’s this middle-of-the-road stuff. Take our lumps and move on, hoping we don’t win too many games. Hard to be a fan of that, though, hoping it’s temporary and you hit on your pick. But maybe that’s better than this.
People say that but we have missed the playoffs the last 2 years so….
If you draft a good young qb you may not be Owl level year 1 but you can still have optimism that you are building a Owl level team. Right now, we are in no man’s land and when you do that (thx wreck) you never get any better
Gee, sounds like I’ve heard this before
Niners gave up a ton for a shit qb. Yes, you need to rebuild, as in get the draft capital you can and rebuild your team. Otherwise you set nfl records for mediocrity as PPB posted earlier.
One of the Vikings sites should have a checkdown article on beaker’s performance. Lists all his missed opportunities
“That doesn’t necessarily excuse some throws”
His inclusion of “But” is an excuse on its own
Kirk is the worst QB in the league and will never ever win a game again. Is that more like it? Good grief, go ahead and do better yourself. Or maybe use your time machine to show us who the next Mahomes will be and we can trade or tank for him. QB’s suck sometimes – I admitted Kirk was very bad. Just saying his stats were even worse due to game situation towards the end and his receivers sucking.
the “it could be worse” argument doesn’t really hold water at all imo. You have to draft a guy. We never do and the last time we did was Teddy and we had some success.
Don’t get me wrong; I’m not saying he wasn’t terrible and we shouldn’t have a plan for new QB. I just think desperation leads to bad throws/decisions, and had the game not been out of hand, I don’t think he looks quite so bad. But what’s the difference between bad and very bad when you’re losing? I just think the guy could use a break. He doesn’t seem to get much credit for wins and when he’s bad, he gets crucified. He’s not going to put the team on his back to win a lot of games, we all know that. But he’s human and if several other facets of the game don’t go our way, are we going to win that game anyway? Probably not. He’s good enough for now. We do need a replacement, but we can win with him if the rest of the team and coaches pull their heads out of their butts.
And before you say it, yes he is overpaid.
I just get frustrated with “It’s all Kirks fault”. You know who else had a bad game? EVERY OTHER PLAYER.
Lots of blame to spread, coaching too.
The punter looked pretty good.
The qb has the most influence on the team by far and makes more than twice the next guy. There is no reason to have a top paid qb when you have nary a chance to compete. Most of the top paid qb’s are on playoff level competing teams.
True, he is overpaid, as I stated in another post trying to head off this one lol. But I don’t see anyone crapping on JJ for a poor route that caused one pick and he could have easily looked back sooner or made more effort to knock that pass in the end zone away from Slay. He half-assed it and/or misjudged it IMO. Obviously he is paid a lot less, but everyone needs accountability.
Anyway, appreciate your input. Have a good night!
you too pal
Long snapper and punter were awesome!! I think he makes the pro bowl.
I stated he sucked, but I don’t think he was as bad as he seemed towards the end, given the game situation and the need to make something happen and force throws to allow enough time to win. Reading comprehension. Would you rather have 3 yd passes and throwaways with limited downs and time?
No, Id rather have a mobile rookie QB on a cheap contract. But thats neither here nor there. My reading comprehension is fine, in fact I can read between the lines. “Yes he sucked…But” No…no buts, WRs drop passes, you cant fold mentally because of that and start staring down WRs and not going through reads and underthrowing passes in the RZ. Period.
Yeah, but with 7 minutes left you kinda need points fast and I think some of the throws were a result of that. Obviously he doesn’t have the poise of Brady or Rodgers and can seemingly come back from anything, but he’s not Nathan Peterman 4 int’s per game, either.
Cousins hate runs deeper than the “doomers” here at Skoloholics.
Check out this take from Outkick. He gets arguments when he claims Kirk is a top 15 QB. I can’t argue that. People here claim top 10 or better.
He’s a 16 or 17 quarterback. League average at best.
I’d put him somewhere between 10-15.
Id take 12-13 over him for either skill/cap it wise or both. He’s no where near 10 in non statistical categories.
The problem is that he never gets better. There are always new guys entering the league and leapfrogging him, but he’s stayed right there where he’s at for a decade.
Allen, Mahomes, etc.
Herbie, Watson, Lamar etc.
Tua, Turdbisket, Fields, lol
Yep.
I just thought it was funny that the dude was getting push back at a top 15 ranking.
I was going to type in your team sucks into gif search but after typing your this was the first gif that came up so…
Pure fossil fuel products, there.
She’s a thick one. Some guys like those big greasy ones.
You want to Venmo me the $50? or cigars? or a Filipino girl mail order?
2nd Half Beaker.
2nd HalfMonday Night Beaker.Cousins often comes back the following game after whatever that was last night, but I’m not confident KOC will make it back from the lousy game-planning and play-calling.
Yep.
I expect Cousins to get his 285+ yards passing and 2 TD’s this week.
I don’t think it is an automatic win, but I will pick the Vikings to win this week for sure.
Gonna need more than 2 TDs to beat the Lions.
Maybe. But not all from Cousins. Running, special teams, etc….
Running game has to wake up. Like stop running cook up the middle…. He’s great on the outside
Running up the middle has never changed in my lifetime.
You either need a power running back who has massive leg strength and can move the pile
or you need beefeater O-liners who can open a hole for a variety of running backs, but mostly speedy/shifty ones.
We have neither.
The handoff is to Brown up the middle and he gets 3 yards. I heard that ad nauseum back in the day.
I don’t recall many screens to Cook either.
That’s where Cook can break a big play IMO.
Looked to me like we have a couple poblems with Cook screens.
One little bump and he’s got to go sideways, backwards, etc
He doesn’t end up where he’s supposed to be.
It takes too long.
Kirk can’t connect with him for either reason.
They tried several last night but all failed miserably. iggles knew it was coming
oline was okey pass blocking but sucked run blocking last night
Yeah, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
31-7 going into the 4th and beaker will get 2 td’s to make it 31-21.
Irv is a loser. I’m 100% done with him. He dropped like 8 other passes too. Mundt sucks too but rather he gets his snaps
“and we’ll be right back folks…………..”
what a tool
All hat, no cattle. 4th year and oppositing breakout.
2019 36 catches, 47 targets, 76.6% catch rate
2020 30 catches, 43 targets, 69.8% catch rate
2021 Zippity doo dah
2022 5 catches, 10 targets, 50% catch rate
Border Patrol have now encountered 78 individuals on terror watchlist this fiscal year alone
Are you a wall guy? I fear we will very much disagree about this. I am all for border security, the wall is just a huge waste of tax payer money.
It can only be a part of the solution and only in some areas. Need a lot more so we agree basically. Your boy is building it right now though, you see that?
So dumb. Also, he’s not doing anything. His puppeteers are doing it lol.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think the Wall is a waste of money?
I’m curious about that, as well.
Because it’s ineffective, people will just go over, under and through it. We need people at the border. Actual humans.
People won’t matter until laws start being strictly enforced.
Agreed, but 2 wrong answers don’t make a right answer. The wall is an absurd waste of money because it’s ineffective. In Trump’s case he wants it so badly because he loves building shit and putting his name on it.
As Five said, it’s part of the solution. Doesn’t have to be a big wall the entire length, but in the right areas it is effective. First Dems need to stop inviting people in illegally and saying we left the back door open. If you want to immigrate, that’s fine and you are welcome, but use the front door.
Once they see they are getting the royal treatment they comes in droves.
It’s tough to fix everything right out of the gate and all at once. Instead of pouring millions or billions into border crossings right away we should put money towards tracking and keeping a finger on top of legal visas so they can’t overstay. That will push people to try and come in at a higher percentage over the border as the high percentage coming in via overstaying visas then we continue to ramp up border crossing stuff as well. Again, I have yet to see a wall that isn’t easily defeated. The only way this makes sense is to have the wall and have lots of people patrol the wall to find where people have have easily defeated the wall and then pay people to fix how they defeated the wall… might as well just skip the middle man wall and put people there to begin with.
A 5 year old can fix it in 2 days. There is no political will to fix it as these POS are fkn traitors in all ways. That’s why I hope there families and beaten and robbed daily. The dems are pushing it so they are worse like always. That’s how you got omar and literally will be voted into oblivion in your own country. Hope these dem voters have to eat dog shit and go to cannibalism.
I agree with 5 on that….easy to stop the flow…Trump did…Restart the Remain in Mexico Policy…Simply don’t allow them in…Its really not that hard..The Democrates who are allowing this to take place really are traitors.
If they were guaranteed to vote right (see: cubans) it would stop in a day. It’s not hard. Put the NG there, crush mexico for allowing them to pass through, fine employers to the hilt, etc. The loser tech companies are just as bad, HB visas to they can pay asians less than qualified Americans. Somebody actually cared about America and look at the lengths they went to banish him?
Simply refuse all asylum from Mexico and Canada. All, no exceptions. Fixed.
But the left is as much of traitors/corrupt and POSs as the right. Just in differing ways. How do we get rid of the corrupt traitors that do exist on both sides? We have to come together and get rid of party identity politics. But we each need to be the change we wish to see. We’ve got to get a state like South Dakota to clean it’s Republican house and a state like California to clean it’s Democrat house etc… Otherwise nothing will ever change because we the people aren’t wielding our greatest strength.
we won’t have a country of any sort if the left stay in power
Edge is still wanting to get rid of some of the last patriots in America, which will move the Overton Window more than removing a few out of the massive pile of communists/leftists.
It’s the current strategy of vilifying anyone on the right and calling them domestic terrorists, etc.
the global elite are doing a number on western society
Straight out of 1930’s Germany.
I agree… I also agree we won’t have a country if the right has all the power. Because as we have both agreed, both sides are ran by crooks that don’t care about this country at all. So if either side gains too much control or power, we’re more done than we already are. I am glad that the only way we get some semblance or rational balance in this country is the swing to the far left goes too far and instead of going to a rational spot we over swing too far to the right and back and forth we go. At least we don’t stay too long on one side.
You forgot the most important 2 factors in domestic politics:
If you use manpower, you can manipulate it to do things in the name of power.
And the bigger the manpower, the more it can be manipulated, more often than not illegally these days.
That’s what they’re doing now, taking Border Patrol Agents and turning them into diaper changers, food service people, triagers, transportation specialists, and people in offices a hundred miles from the Border.
A wall is not ineffective. You don’t see all that many people crashing a million walls around the world.
If it cuts down even a quarter of the people wandering over the border, then it has done it’s job, and the cost savings to the USA is tremendous, and a Wall is just of fraction of what is incurred over time.
Sure, a person of physical means can defeat the Wall, but very few of them can carry a poor kid or pregnant woman over with them.
The second thing the Wall does is allow many more people to be caught near the wall, because it slows them down and vehicles can haul in large loads of them, unlike now, where they can wander in unvetted for hundreds of miles. This is millions and millions of people.
The argument for more Border Patrol Agents, who can be manipulated from the top down often by illegal orders, instead of measures that can’t be manipulated by the people at the top, sounds like the perfect way for leftists to ensure more people will come in instead of deal with the problem.
I agree. I was just trying to say a wall is one part of the solution and trying to say that it is not 100% effective on its own so it shouldn’t be done is ridiculous. I guess they could just go with Pelosi’s solution and mow the grass along the border.
Ooops, meant that for Edge.
Walls are ineffective. This has been confirmed with Trump’s wall too and I am sure will be the case with Biden’s hijacking of the Trump’s wall. But I remember Penn and Teller one time hiring a group of illegal immigrants to build a section of Bush’s wall exactly to specs he had laid out. It took all day for this group to build one little section. They then broke the group into small groups and had a race. One group was to go under, one to go through, and one to go over. It was literally minutes for all the groups to defeat the wall. I am all for border security but it needs to be in a way that is effective.
Invading criminals are costing 180-200 billion a year. I have no issue spending 5 billion on a wall
Illegal immigrant crossings were at a 40 year low under President Trump…mostly due to his remain in Mexico Policy…However the border patrol agents on the ground say the wall is effective as part of the solution.
walls work for sure, not a full solution which is easy nobody cares about this country who run it
a wall is too expensive, where would we get the money????
billions of dollars go to ukraine for who knows what……
No they don’t work for sure. They slow it slightly while people are defeating them. And then the flood gates are back open literally. But I guess we will have to disagree here.
Not what I’m saying. Deport, crush employers who hire them, etc. etc. It’s easy
AZ has a law where you lose your business license for a year if you hire a criminal invader
In Commiefornia, half the people there work under the table. Need a new roof? Someone has an uncle who can do that. Need your wife roto-rootered? Someone else has an uncle who can do that…
Sanctuary means lawless
I agree, yes to this.
Need more enforcement. When invading criminals are caught in the US, they get 5 years hard labor then returned to southern Mexico. Even little kids.
BORDER WALL CONSTRUCTION RESUMES UNDER PRESIDENT JOE BIDENThe Biden administration laid out its plans to rev up work on completing Donald Trump’s signature project.September 18 2022, 4:30 a.m.
And the Liberal media will be silent as hell about it. Hate it. I see this as them thinking (and I agree) that Trump will win. It’s more important to them to take this away from Trump than to stick to their fake moral high ground.
Whatever your opinion of the wall the fucking hypocrisy here is beyond belief. They used it against the Patriot for years and now will do it (but only after they brought in millions to try to swing votes) pure treason, period
How’s the sniffer wall coming?
Doing well, he’s now got a big wall around multiple residences.
@Waste of money. It won’t keep people out.@
Also, just saw DeSantis is shipping illegals to Delaware as a favor to President Biden so his home state can be enriched with diversity…..
That’s the story. The only airport in Delaware is Georgetown, DE. That’s where I work. That is still 30 miles from Biden’s compound on the Beach. They will never get anywhere near Biden’s house. Just my work.
He can arrange buses at the airport
I guess he could get private bus service.
I’d be shocked if Desantis went to that length.
I’d be shocked if a private service wasn’t already warned
Exactly.
I doubt they go much further than the Royal Farms, (Convenience Store chain out here), down the street from my work. Then the DE governor will make sure they get nowhere near Biden’s climate wrecking beach house.
I’m sure DeSavage can buy buses if he thinks that’s an issue.
Still, it will be fun to see the various governors and mayors each pop up one by one to spew their anti-immigrant rhetoric, thinking their hate is just for DeSantis.
Yep. Desantis has succeeded in bringing attention to the dems racists and anti-immigration ways. Brilliant.
Ship ’em in by the tens of thousands
Bus them to Galveston, put them on a troop ship and drop off 20,000 all at once in Connecticut or DE or Maryland or DC.
Only if border security is allowed to shoot people who still get across the border.
I can feel the left’s howling on that point……..
Line the border with landmines. Barbwire or chain link fence on the border, 100 yards of land mines, another fence signs on both fences warning of the danger and done. After that, life is about choices. If you choose to walk through, you made that choice and live with the consequences. Oh, and there would still be BP on the other side of the fence.
Good plan.
Might be better than the wall.
Fuck the Sound of Silence (great song), after last night I feel more like:
It just really feels like more of the same, couldn’t adapt and emotional let down after an emotional victory, and Cousins can’t win on Monday night. But it’s only one loss, but man was that horrid to watch… YUCK! Supposed to have so many threats on offense and last night we didn’t have one.
Bills might go undefeated
nah but they are the team to beat imo
Destroying good teams. We’re gonna lose 48-7
I doubt it is that bad.
Likely by 10 points for sure though.
It’s a horrible matchup for our defense
It’s one game sandwiched between the Jets and the Browns.
Bills could take the Vikings a bit lightly.
They could play their 7th stringers and still have Cousins weeping in a fetal position
Why do you think we will be able to keep it that close? Bills have pity on us?
Sources – Colorado Avalanche give Nathan MacKinnon 8-year, $100.8M extension
Wow, I remember when hockey players never made pro sports-type money
You remember the dinosaurs too
Who do you think killed them off?
Trusty .338 Win Mag almost bear gun and .44 mag
OMG.
So a hockey player getting $12.6 Million a year is a huge contract?
Are they fully guaranteed like Kirky?
yup
Ok, to be clear I think the only people I have bets with for Miami game is skolly and GF, $50. Please confirm if this is correct.
All our bets are 25, but yes I do.
so far your up 25 with 3 more bets:
I have one bet with DE over 9+ $40
ok, thx
Will settle end of year. Both could end up breaking even or more bets could be added.
for now I’m in wait and see mode
Actually, the bet is over/under 8.5 for $40.
I read your post as over 9 wins. You said no to that.
Yeah it’s 8.5 sorry
No worries.
Just want to be clear.
if anyone is tired of sending five money, please feel free to take terrible bets with me instead
Didn’t you bet everyone here $100 that the Vikings would win the SB this year?
that certainly sounds like me
@I’ll collect in February@
i can’t stop watching the irv smith drop.
how do you drop that pass.
He had to work to drop that. He had it caught and then bungled it.
what a dufus.
probably would have been caught from behind and fumbled the ball anyways.
We’ve had a lot of great receivers over the years, but never have we tried to jam a TE with stone hands into a wide receiver position before.
And never have we kept a wide receiver back to block on a buncha plays, like he’s a TE. Such fackery.
They should just bring back Treadwell.
Like it surprised him it was that easy so he freaked out and dropped it.
I think it was Mick on the game thread who had a great roast.
“Troy Williamson would have caught that…”
Perfect pass and would’ve tied the game I believe. Huge deflate moment.
im done with Irv.
I think it would have made it 21-14 at that time but either way it was a big moment in the game.
i’m not saying we would have won if he caught it.
who knows…
but it would have definitely given some confidence to the team.
but man, irv, YOU SUCK
It changes the complexion of the game a significant amount. Instead of ANOTHER three and out its a one score game. Vikings probably still lose but who knows, the defense played much better the second half when the Vikings started not doing 3 and outs all the time, even though they just drove down the field and turned it over.
You assume Joseph would have made the XP and you should know better than that.
Give him time.
He will breakout soon !!
Does this help?

Or maybe this one?

Laces out, Dan.
I might be addicted to true crime stuff all of a sudden. I am binging on listening to police interrogations of murder suspects and Chris Hanson’s To Catch A Predator.
There’s just something fascinating about people trying to lie/squirm their way out of big trouble while the interrogator keeps tightening the noose.
I like the “figure it out” part of true crime and other mysteries, but I don’t like it if the crimes are too gory/creepy or anything where a kid gets hurt.
Yes, it is hard to stomach the actual crimes. That’s the reason I don’t like reality-based horror movies either.
The interrogations can be riveting, though. The Catch A Predator ones are sometimes mind-boggling the way the criminal tries to put together a story that they hope sounds believable. Like one guy said he bussed three hours, then walked five miles to arrive at a house at 11 p.m. for a job interview.
Okay…
I’m not familiar with that one, I’ll have to check it out.
might help
Better put some tape over the air vents. He might still be able to see a little bit.
Might be a good Halloween costume.
Please don’t scare the little Viking fans, please.
I wonder how many people have bought his jersey. A dozen so far?
I think Skoldier’s and NFV own them all.
In other news you can’t even make up:
Beyond Meat COO (Beyond Meat is vegetarian meat, if that makes sense) chomps the nose off of someone
https://nypost.com/2022/09/19/beyond-meat-coo-doug-ramsey-accused-of-biting-mans-nose/
Well, human meat is considered ok for the Vegan crowd. I think.
it’s all bugs and humans over there
Yeah, they had to change the rules so if you swallow you are still considered a vegan. Too many would have been excommunicated otherwise.
whacked out due to iron deficiency
As I’ve seen pointed out somewhere, it is interesting that vegetarians try to make vegetables taste like meat.
I’ve never tried to make a steak taste like carrots and lettuce.
in fact, when i am getting a steak at a restaurant, i want my steak to taste so far from carrots and lettuce, i don’t waste my time with the veggies haha
I have not had a steak in quite awhile since they cost like $10 a pound now. I’ve been delving more into pork lately. It’s pretty versatile.
i rarely go out for steak.
i usually grill my own. and sometimes i just need to “treat yo self” with the freezey family and get steak
I’m one of those weird folks that always order a burger and fries. I’m a sucker for a burger.
If it is late, I will sometimes get fish, though. I’m learning the belly is no longer willing with heavy food after 7 p.m.
I’m usually chicken sandwich and fries. Burger on occasion. Steak if it’s only me and my wife.
I’m burger and fries, too. Chicken sammich seems like lunch, not dinner.
Fair.
But I rarely eat lunch so……
I’ve had to cut way back on steak too, which I love. I’m a burger person as well.
I haven’t read any comments, but I can only assume….
Stonk Market taking another dump today. Uff duh. The least it could do is make me money after a Viking’s loss.
Brutal. Dollar cost averaging and capital losses day.
remember that one time we all laughed at Christian Watson for dropping an EASY td throw?
karma.
karma shmarma
Yeah irv saw that and was like, lol just wait…
let it be known here….i am no welcher…even on bets i don’t remember making.
congrats five, you are $50 richer today. don’t waste it on stupid cigars please
Lol five RN
I thought it was $25
he said it was 50, but would do 25, i don’t welch, if it was 50, it was 50..
This site doesn’t do searches well… probably need a Pete to try to find it if you want accuracy.
the deed is done, it doesn’t matter anymore.
last time i bet a vikings win.
Want to bet on Sunday’s game?
ok fine, how much
LOL
You mean retroactively?
You are a good man Freezey. I won’t, bottle of bourbon most likely.
Also, thank the Lord we only have one primetime TNF game left this season
That’s good, Vikings suck in primetime.
unless we’re flexed in
or our stadium collapses (again)
I think I read that all the TNF games are on prime streaming only, which I don’t get, so I might not get another Vikings game all season. I’ll always have the make Rodgers miserable game though.
The way everybody is talking today it doesn’t matter because the season is over. After last week it was winning the division and maybe go to the bowl. Way too much overreacting on both ends.
They are proceeding as expected.
Like Ben said last night and this is accurate. The Vikings are not as good as we think as week 1 but not as bad as we were last night.
“we”???
Correct, i think they’ll come out and win Sunday, though it’ll be a fairly close game.
Agree.
You are so desperately hoping that’s true, lol. If we are as bad as we were last night we likely win 3-4 games and have a chance at a qb next spring.
Also, it’s pretty funny when Kirk is MVP good like last week nobody gives him credit. When he sucks donkies, everybody and their mothers jumps on him like hyena. Just funny
Are you blind man?
How many non stop Cousins stat posts do we see comparing him to Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, etc………
Kirk was bad last night. It was top 2 or 3 worst game as a Viking. I might have it as #1, but Kirk is better than that.
Everyone has bad games. Look at Rodgers week 1, Brady’s been bad for 2 weeks now, Dak was horrible week 1, mahomes was pretty meh last week.
Csnt be great all the time and if we’re gonna lose I’d rather them get blown out so everyone like JJ can get their egos checked
buffalo and Chicago in 2018. Kirky was even worse in those games.
Atlanta, 15 qbr
The problem with your statement above is that “Kirk is MVP good like last week”…
That’s just crazy. 277 yards, a couple touchdowns? In what universe is that “MVP good”?
It’s not MVP good. It’s a very good performance though.
Yes, I can go with good, although I don’t think very good. The only very good was completion percentage.
Because we all know the other side of Kirk and it always rears its ugly head. There will be other games like this, Buffalo and Miami come to mind. Im not going to prop Kirk up because he hit a schemed wide open Jefferson in one game dude.
This one and Atl and buffalo were bad
Colts 2020 game the worst
No im talking about we could see this type of performance again in those games coming up. This is not an anomaly for Kirk.
We have 15 more games where we could see beaker perform like this. Wtf man, no game is a given. He plays like that at home vs dabares and we get spanked.
3 picks in the red zone is inexcusably shitty. There is zero excuse for that shit. None.
Maximum bad by being short throws.
He felt phantom pressure and he couldn’t even wait to make a couple easy short throws when the receiver finally got open. He had to throw the exact routes and timing no matter what.
Kirk was horrible, not as bad as 2020 colts game but horrible. He’ll still have 4k yards, 30+ TDs and around 7-10 picks at the end of the year.
He’s going to have to step up his TD’s since he’s running short of the 30.
1.5 per game x 17 = 25.5
yeah he’s a bit behind at the moment
But he might squeak by on his statting… Only QB with 25 TD’s a game for the last hundred years.
If he plays like that, he’ll have 14 tds and 45 picks and 16 fumbles this season for 1500 yards. Does that put into perspective the beaker we saw last night?
I’m more curious about the rookie HC’s development. He had a great game plan vs. Packers, but last night was bad. DC did make half time adjustments, and defense was better 2nd half, but the offense was worse.
I’m not surprised. A rookie HC is going to take his lumps. How he responds and grows from that this year is more important to the future of the franchise.
I have a feeling the better plan week 1 was cuz he knows LaFleur better from working together. Just a theory but I think they had a much better guess what the Packers would do than they did with the Eagles. It’s early in the season so every team is still figuring things out. With a rookie HC and all new coaching staff it will take a little while. Even Belichek looks at the first 4 weeks of the season as a continuation of preseason to a point. If the same issues continue into October and November (as a trend and not just one stinker of a game that all teams eventually have), then there’s a problem.
That’s a really good point, I hadn’t thought about him knowing LaFleur so well. Still very interested to see how he can develop with game planning and play calling.
6 point favs over the kitties
tempting
I’d take that bet and put some $$ on the Kitty’s. They’ll beat us straight up for sure.
Like a rug at spring cleaning
Your optimism for the day:
Vikes are gonna take this fat L and use it to destroy the living bleep out of the Lions Sunday. Book it.
Just to refresh your memory.
2021 loss to the winless lions…..
Youll see. Congrats on your eagles winning last night. I know your happy
You say that every week.
i said we were gonna lose lol. Check the predictions before the game when Mick asked. I thought it would be closer than it was but thought this was the hardest game before bye
Then why did you tell bettors to take the Vikings to win?
Nice edit.
Your original post was something like….
“You’ll see. Vikings win easy….”
Lions win.
And win big.
As much as I think that football players are professionals and can do their jobs, the win yesterday was probably about the most demoralizing situation I’ve seen. It’s going to affect a significant number of players in a positive way, as far as peeling back the blinders, but also in a negative way, since they now know no matter what they do they can’t overcome crappy kirk and crappy KOC.
31-7 going into the 4th and beaker will get yards and 2 td’s to get within 2 scores.
Kirk will be fine, but yes Kirk was horrible yesterday. There’s gonna be some growing pains in this new scheme and it happened yesterday. We weren’t going 17-0 and I predicted loss yesterday too.
Win your home games, and beat the saints or Miami. That’s 4-2 into bye. And if we’re 3-3 into bye I’m content with that too.
still would put us on track to win 9+ games. Schedule lightens up a tad post bye IMO
I’ve heard this from somewhere before.
So the “all the way….” rah rah from last week no longer applies?
We’re 1-1 LOL. We played a great team that we match up poorly against. Not the end of the world.
We lose next week I’ll start to question the season.
Lions damn near beat the iggles. They will curbstomp us again.
Made me laugh
What happened? Everybody wake up get their bitching out and go back to bed?
I have too much experience with post beat down open threads to get emotionally invested in it all. Just a pathetic outing and thank goodness I didn’t pay for a plane ticket, hotel, meals, etc to attend the game.
YES!
Oh, great point. Anyone who went to that expense for that game would have to be very unhappy.
Why, winning or losing doesn’t matter for the fun of going to a game.
I’m kinda speechless, frankly.
Yeah, not much to say about that shit show. Hope it was a one-time thing and move on to the LOLions.
I put in some solid work
lot of doomers out there
2 of them gone and its still the same old shit, Vikings suck in primetime
And the remaining factor is…….
In fitness to Kirk the Vikings have line capped the bed in primetime
I still don’t understand why he wasn’t pulled after that INT in the third quarter. Not only were the odds of winning the game minute at that point but his confidence was clearly shaken. I just watched that series again and he look straight at JJ breaking into a clean gap in coverage and turns left to throw to Cook in a pocket of six players. It was great odds he would get sacked/throw a pick/fumble next play. I just don’t get carting out “beaker”/PTSD/cowering dog quarterback on the next series. Hopeless.
I don’t know, either, but sure leads to my own speculation that either the coach thought he needed to play some more to gain back confidence, or else that Coach has been told in no uncertain terms by someone upstairs that Cousins is the man, and you SHALL play him at all times.
The fact that Zimmer hated him and still kept playing him when he was having bad days last year and before is some evidence that this directive came straight from the Wilfs and not GM.
I dont know. He does not have the mental fortitude to grind out tough games against good teams in hostile environments. KOC is not going to change that.
KOC said something to the effect that Kirk should go with his first instinct more, but I see him doing just the opposite, where last night he didn’t let loose on the timing routes and the playcalling didn’t allow much in the way of progressions. JJ or bust.
Watching the Vikings game last night
Y
Lol, perfect
Sucking is something
So the other thing I noticed yesterday is that Za’Darius Smith disappeared.
1 solo tackle, 1 grouper, no nothing else. Where was the man behind the bookend hype?
He already said he signed here to play the Packers twice. Apparently that meant he only cared about those 2 games.
Makes sense.
Hunter and Kendricks looked lost in the 3-4 defense too
Yup, no sense that they were part of the team. Hurts took 9 step drops and hit the 10-yarder perfectly. There’s hardly any way for Hunter and ZSmith to get to the QB that far back, but Kendricks should have been in the thick of things, in the middle where Hurts was hitting pass after pass.
looked fine week one, looked to me like they were lost against the RPO, especially the 25 yard hurts td run where the entire defense had no clue hurts had the ball and was running
They will have it all figured out in 12-15 more games
He had to play a starting tackle
Wonder what the Bills would do to us?
Keenum would likely play half the game. If it was in MN, the fans could squint and pretend he had Diggs were wearing purple as they scored TDs.
After taking a 42-0 lead in the first quarter they might coast
No Skoldiers today so far? Is he finally accepting that fact that Kirk isn’t the guy? Healing takes time, I get it.
I think he’s vacationing in Martha’s Vineyard with Obama today…
Oh right right
I’m around just on vacation till Tuesday next week.
Kirk will be fine. They’ll be some growing pains
Oh my sweet summer child.
Age 32… and not out of diapers.
going on 13
You know it was a bad game when Kodiak is the most optimistic sounding person here. What a morning…
Lol
What’s not to be optimistic about? We did great. I’m just glad we weren’t embarrassed on national tv again, like 41-0 or 38-7. We kept it close.
Wow did that suck!
I need Desantis to fly more illegals to Marthas Vineyard to cheer me up…or maybe another Biden 60 minutes interview…
Biden falling off his bike and shitting his pants would be nice too
Wonder if KOC felt like this during the game last night…
Pretty sure they don’t text each other smiley emoji’s any more…
Vikings need Chad Powers at qb…..
Maybe they’ll draft his nephew in a couple years.
Either one would be a good run-on compared to…