Minnesota Vikings News & Links: 18 Jul 2022

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Merry Monday, everyone!

I hope all of your weekends were fun and relaxing. Temps were over 100 here…..my kind of weather. We did have a fun weekend, too. Kiddo and I went to the dirt track races on Thursday, then I had my 30 year class reunion on Friday. It was fun to see old classmates again. I did get a chuckle out of the fact that back in high school, most of my classmates thought I was a bit too wild and crazy (they were right), most of my friends were a couple years older than me back then. Now, we get to the 30th reunion, and all of them are getting drunk while I’m the sober one who went home at 8:00, I htought it was amusing. We had a great time, though. The fam and I also decorated a float and were in a parade in my hometown on Saturday. I pulled my boat in the parade in memory of my uncle (it was his boat, he bought it new in 1979), and we all sat in the back & played pinochle & blasted some polka music. We had a good time.

Recent News:

From CBS Sports, Ben Leber said that Mike Zimmer did not like Kirk Cousins. This isn’t really the bombshell that it’s being made out to be, Leber is basically saying what most of us already assumed.

Video of the Day:

Another hilarious bit from our friends, John Boy & Billy. This one is Oliver, and he has some thoughts on women.

Anyhow, there once again is not much football news to share, so y’all have at it in the comments, and remember, be cool to one another.

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No longer New Vikings Fan
19 July 2022 7:58 am

Soon the Vikings will be in training camp in 5 days. We all know how this year is shaping up. KAM brought in some defensive players in the off season, most notably Z Smith and Jordan Hicks. So they could be components that make the defense better. He also drafted several defensive players who could contribute. Time will tell if the new defensive scheme, DC, and players actually pan out. On offense, KOC is is the biggest question mark, followed by the offensive line. Can the rookie head coach take the ingredients of a pretty good offense last year (plus Irv Smith Jr) and turn them into a dominant scoring machine? We’ll see.

No longer New Vikings Fan
19 July 2022 6:39 am

Got Five and Kodiak going all day yesterday about Cousins. 587 comments. Not bad. Grin.

Lifer
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
19 July 2022 6:55 am

Five will play it off like he was in control because of his inferiority complex.

I’m excited for the new situation Cousins and the team find themselves in this season. It’s much better, head coach who isn’t on a power trip and doesn’t hate him and diminish his skill set by putting him in high pressure situations. A renewed focus on offensive football and creating optimal situations for the QB to execute. Everything is better across the board, still likely need a few offseasons to round out and fine tune the roster but heading in the right direction.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Lifer
19 July 2022 7:21 am

I like Five and have no problem with our sparring other than his child state comments and grade school labeling. I accept that as just par for the course on the internet though. People are either in parent state (even me sometimes) or child state most of the time.

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 9:34 pm

beaker sucks and all know it

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Fivefingers
19 July 2022 12:13 am

Lol

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
19 July 2022 6:25 am

All??? All?????

grandiose statements from a buffoon doomer.

Lifer
Admin
18 July 2022 8:17 pm

😂

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No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Lifer
19 July 2022 9:30 am

Every man carries two bags about him, one in front and one behind, and both are full of faults. The bag in front contains his neighbors’ faults, the one behind his own. Hence it is that men do not see their own faults, but never fail to see those of others.

Lifer
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Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
19 July 2022 4:23 pm

Yeah and every man can take a shower, shave and not dress like a bum when attending official proceeding but Bannon chooses to be a slob his entire life.

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 7:09 pm

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Lifer
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18 July 2022 6:04 pm

Oh wow…five & kodiak look like fools again…

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Kodiak
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 6:19 pm

I look as much the fool as the nfl players, coaches, scouts and execs who consider him in the average range.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 6:28 pm

True…

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 6:47 pm

BUT BUT Hurts has 4k yards in first 20 starts. LOLOLOL

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 6:51 pm

Beyond that, Cousins owns an NFL record. He is the only QB in NFL history to complete 80% or more of his passes in 5 games in a season. At one time (with the Redskins) he owned the NFL record for completion percentage in home games for a season. I think in 2016 he completed over 78% of his passes in home games.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 6:53 pm

But @Hurt has thrown more than 4k yards in his first 20 starts@

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 7:27 pm

The statistics on Cousins seem endless. He has just played at a high level ever since becoming a starter in 2015. In 2017 he had 26 different O-line combinations in front of him by week 13 due to so many injuries. The Redskins were signing O-linemen mid week who started in front of Cousins on Sunday. Cousins called it his best season, because despite having this morass of an O-line in front of him he still threw for over 4,000 yards and 27 TD’s and the team went 7-9 entirely on Cousins arm.

Adrenaline
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 10:27 pm

Let’s just put aside the fact that my dead granny could complete 80% of her passes if we didn’t need first downs 🙂

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Adrenaline
19 July 2022 6:41 am

Your dead granny is amazing!

Kodiak
18 July 2022 6:00 pm

Five, Kym and Dukes new luxury accommodations in three weeks.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 6:10 pm

I like it

Kodiak
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 6:18 pm

$400 with new tires.
Show Kym, she’ll be impressed.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 5:16 pm

Lol 5 is in for a loooooong season when the winning train is crusin

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 5:26 pm

might want to check out the road schedule

Kodiak
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 5:40 pm

You just must not understand. No matter what, we end up losers, 0-62. Winning a couple games in the weakest division of the weakest conference doesn’t make us not suck.

norseman1
norseman1
18 July 2022 3:56 pm

Purple banter fun, i don’t bet tho. You guys need to put in variables, Injury and such.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 4:01 pm

understandable

Fivefingers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 4:11 pm

nope, same risk for both parties

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 4:20 pm

I’d take your bet then. KC,JJ,Cook, AT go down season over on offense.

Fivefingers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 5:01 pm

but if 3 stay healthy I could lose

Kodiak
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 5:41 pm

Seasons already over on offense.

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 3:31 pm

If turdberry plays like Mick Tinglehoff and we don’t have all these fumbles from everybody we could have been good.

norseman1
norseman1
18 July 2022 3:24 pm

All-Star break, thank God no need to watch Twins,

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 3:17 pm

What if the vikings lost JJ last year and they didn’t have potato for 13 games. 1-16, very lucky year health wise, won’t get lucky again on offense health and we were 31st in D with changes for the worse

freezeyface
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 3:19 pm

yeah, we would have sucked without JJ last year. you are right.
not hard to admit ya big dummy

Fivefingers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 3:21 pm

Did you know if we made a whole bunch of plays and the other team didn’t stop us we would have made the playoffs. 31st D could have been 29th too. God Bless You!

freezeyface
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 3:40 pm

i love you, but you are a knucklehead sometimes.

Fivefingers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 3:44 pm

Lol, who is? You guys are on purple crack again. We are rnaked 20th coming off BTB losing seasons and lost half the team. How on earth are we so good?

Kodiak
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 4:04 pm

Fairy dust and unicorn farts. Take out an oline, wr and back plus dline, lb and cb and see where we are. That’s average injuries. We go above average and we suck even worse.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 4:02 pm

ha ha ha ha

freeze: “you big dummy”
big5: “God Bless You!”

I love Skoloholics

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 5:13 pm

Yeah I agree. Kirk or JJ go down were doomed

Kodiak
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 5:42 pm

We’re doomed if we have zero injuries. Our talent level sucks.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 6:31 pm

I totally disagree with that Kodiak. If we go injury free we’ll win the Division and go far in the playoffs.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 7:38 pm

Nope, our defense is going to be terrible again. Worst dline in the nfl, average on lbs, cbs will be way below average and s will be average.
Offense will have bottom 10 oline which will shape the rest of the offense.
We might get to the playoffs at 7-10 but will be one and done.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 7:46 pm

With zero injuries this team has enough talent to win the Division at 12-5 and win some playoff games.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
19 July 2022 1:41 am

Keep smokin the hopium

freezeyface
18 July 2022 3:16 pm

ewww, what’s with all the vikings talk?

jk

glad to see some.
of course i have to wade through all of fives ridiculous comments. five is to the negative vikings train and praising all the other players who are better than kirk, as skoldiers is to the positive vikings train…and if there is one thing i would rather be? it’s POSITIVE

skoldierss’ss’s my boy!

Fivefingers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 3:19 pm

Give it time, you weren’t even a concept the last time this team even made the Owl. Losing record last 2 years. Gonna take time and a real qb on a rookie deal

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 5:13 pm

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 5:14 pm

I prove 5 wrong with facts. Instead he tries to tell me Hurts/Tua are better than Kirk HAHAH

Kodiak
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 5:47 pm

You misstate facts. He said 35 mill would be better spent on Hurts and 5 other good o and D players than on one beaker.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 6:33 pm

That is an opinion though… not a fact. No way to prove a theoretical.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 7:40 pm

Yes, it’s an opinion, but what he actually said is a fact.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 7:48 pm

No it’s not… opinions are not facts…. eyeroll.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
19 July 2022 1:44 am

You just don’t understand there boy genius. I am not saying what he said was true. I am saying what he said is in fact what he said.

The discussion was about what he said. Not if it was true. Understand now? He said hurts and 5 other players are better than one beaker not that hurts is better than beaker. Get it?

Eric Scott
18 July 2022 3:11 pm

What if?

What if they had had a Zimm defense that actually performed and didn’t get hurt last year???

How many of the close losses become Ws if they had their act together?

and / or

didn’t run up the middle twice and pass once on a three and out all of the time?

Fivefingers
Reply to  Eric Scott
18 July 2022 3:14 pm

They had hardly any injuries on D sans Hunter. What if the lions had Mahomes and 10 all pros.

freezeyface
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 3:18 pm

what five is trying to say is yeah, the defense was definitely the achilles heal of the team last year and they absolutely lost us 3 if not 4 games NOT kirk. and by golly, that is making me change my mind a big on kirk, maybe he isn’t the issue the vikings have and maybe, just maybe, this is the year!

Fivefingers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 3:28 pm

The D is the achilles b/c they spend all the money on beaker and the offense to try to help his pathetic self. All OL are now 1st/2nd rd picks, 1st rd wr, 2nd rd TE, 2nd rd RB. gladney was a nice pick

freezeyface
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 3:42 pm

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 5:15 pm

LOL what??? The DL was a joke. We lost hunter all season. Griff had his mental episode. Barr was hurt half the games. Kendricks missed several towards the end too.

Covid messed up the CB rotation every week.

Hardly any injuries my a$$

Kodiak
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 5:46 pm

Way below league average last season on both offense and defense. If it averages out this year we go 4-13. Our depth is terrible.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Eric Scott
18 July 2022 5:14 pm

Or a run play on 3rd and 18

norseman1
norseman1
18 July 2022 3:05 pm

Russia shoots down own 36 mil bomber. Shit happens.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 3:03 pm

And we nearly won 9 games with these jokers… Nobody wants them this year

Kodiak
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 4:09 pm

I thought Hill signed w/the ravens

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 5:16 pm

He sucks who cares

Kodiak
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 5:44 pm

He started for us last season. Wonder why we sucked? Who’s our b/up OT this season? Udoh? Lol, that’s rich.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 6:39 pm

And yet Cousins put up 4200 yards with 33 TD’s and just 7 interceptions behind those guys. Remarkable.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 7:39 pm

it is remarkable he is still considered average by the experts. He must really suck at some intangible or something.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 7:49 pm

What’s remarkable is you hanging your hat on some survey of unknown people and their opinions.

norseman1
norseman1
18 July 2022 3:02 pm

Purple healthy win 9. Book it.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 3:04 pm

Oh I agree 100%

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 3:07 pm

Kodiak
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 4:07 pm

That could be but take out 6 starters as is average for injuries and see where we are. We’re going to suck.

norseman1
norseman1
18 July 2022 2:47 pm

I’m ignorant. Is the case of a 10 yr old looking for a abortion in Ohio contested by Dims with no mention of crime due to a illegal immigrant. Enlighten me please.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 2:59 pm

dude, the mother of the 10 year old is in a relationship with the rapist. the mother is also pregnant.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 3:00 pm

Fucked up, i guess.

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 4:07 pm

So is mom 20 years old, daughter 10 years old and uncle daddy invading criminal 50? Why hasn’t the dr been charged w/not reporting as a mandatory reporter. Lose license go to prison.

bowbunch
bowbunch
18 July 2022 2:44 pm
Fivefingers
Reply to  bowbunch
18 July 2022 2:47 pm

they are now as I’m looking hard but not enough in the areas I like

Adrenaline
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 10:34 pm

I’d like my own island

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
18 July 2022 3:02 pm

Gas has gone down a bit the last couple weeks, still ridiculously high though.

L. A. Player
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 9:26 pm

That will last only as long as the stratregic oil reserves hold. Thenthey go back up. They are trying to force everybody into electric cars and won’t stop until they destroy us all.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 2:19 pm

Uh oh, Fournette showed up to mini camp 30 pounds overweight and not in game shape. Guess he didn’t like Brady’s diet. https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/buccaneers-were-not-happy-leonard-fournette-weighed-nearly-260/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 2:22 pm

Did Eddie Lacy show him the joys of China food?

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peterplaysbass
Reply to  bowbunch
18 July 2022 2:27 pm

ha ha, Eddie Lacy

On September 10 (2017), in his Seahawks debut, he had five rushes for three yards in a 17–9 loss to his former team

In April 2019, Lacy had a tryout with the Baltimore Ravens, but was not signed.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:36 pm

Fournette’s a vet, so he certainly knew what he should have been doing to stay in shape during off season. Is it possible to lose 30 pounds and get in football shape between mini camp and training camp? Just thought it was funny after Brady un-retired.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 2:45 pm

he’s got some hustlin’ to do

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 4:01 pm

Put down the fork and he’ll lose 30 pounds in 2 weeks

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  bowbunch
18 July 2022 2:28 pm

Haha! Fournette didn’t show up for OTA’s, then showed up for mini camp out of shape, after signing an extension in March.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  bowbunch
18 July 2022 2:59 pm

FB players ain’t the brightest bulb in the drawer.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 2:26 pm

China Food 2.0

peterplaysbass
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 2:31 pm

watch them sign Peterson

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:48 pm

Haha! Wouldn’t hurt my feelings for Brady’s un-retirement to be for naught, although if I had to chose, I’d prefer Rodgers have a bad year.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 2:55 pm

Yeah I saw that today on twitter

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 2:19 pm

Sad times when I just saw how much taxes I paid for my 23 kids I don’t know. I likely paid more in state tax/spilt liquor than cooter makes in a year at the air compressor plant/discount golf shop.

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:23 pm

Betting recap. If you are one of my victims please confirm.

Total wins- skolly needs 9 wins, GF needs 10 wins, GaSkol needs 10, NVF 14

Road wins- one of the chicago guys wins if they get 3 (lmao)

Philly game- GF, skolly have loser vikes, I have iggles.

what else? Anybody else want in on philly game or miami and their terrible qb?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:33 pm

You and I have no bets… are you going Joe Biden on me?

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 2:13 pm

lol, that was a joke

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 3:42 pm

Laughing… whew… for a minute there I was thinking you were going all Biden on me.

Adrenaline
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 10:54 pm

I’ll bet you that the Vikings win more than 2 games.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:34 pm

Five, I have 4 bets with you. This is what I have in my notes.

  1. Make playoffs = I win, No playoffs = you win
  2. Vikes beat Eagles = I win, Eagles win = you win
  3. Vikes win 9 or more = I win, 8 or less = you win
  4. Vikes beat Miami = I win, Miami wins = you win

We’ll tally it to end of season. Some may wash out.

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 2:14 pm

ok

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:52 pm

what if Miami has benched Tua and they’re starting Bridgewater?

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:14 pm

I don’t welch

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:57 pm

That helps 5. Tua sucks

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 3:20 pm

Kirk, JJ,Cookand AT stay healthy i expect good things. I do expect improved o-line play too.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 3:44 pm

Well improved line play should be a low bar. The last four years the O-line has been amongst the absolute worst in the league.

Kodiak
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 5:48 pm

I expect worse oline play. We have been really lucky on oline injuries. Expect to lose 2 guys and not turdbury.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 3:30 pm

lmao. you have 9, I have anything less

Fivefingers
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 3:37 pm

lol, post that. I really did think you needed 9 to win

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:15 pm

Weeks 7-12 are up! Check it out here

Kodiak
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 2:40 pm

This will be good humor.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 2:57 pm

I have them going 3-2 but easily could be 2-3. Toughest stretch of the schedule

Kodiak
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 5:48 pm

Nailed every game in my response. You keep assuming nobody is hurt where in reality we have 6-8 guys out every game.

norseman1
norseman1
18 July 2022 12:58 pm

54 days! Or something like that. Anything but Twins BB.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 1:00 pm

6 days till rookies report and training camp starts.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 2:40 pm

7 days till Vikes start hitting IR

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 3:46 pm

Eyeroll… OK Mr positive…

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 5:49 pm

It’s the Vikings. Last season Irv, this season JJ? Cook? God forbid the chosen one.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 12:55 pm

Looks like 5 is off his rocker like Lifer. Thinks Hurts is better than Kirk

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 12:59 pm

He spun the discussion with how much Hurts makes versus Cousins… like that matters when it comes to quality of play. Five is always shifting the goalposts.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:15 pm

No, I said Hurts was the only one EVER to do that and that he should be given time and he won more games last year than beaker with a worse team and especially a worse offense.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:21 pm

Defense wins championships.

our defense was all time nfl record breaking bad.

our offense aPhilly defense kirks wins SB?

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:25 pm

so you agree paying beaker 35M is a terrible move and we should have baker for 5m and 6 other 5M players? Agree, you’ve finally come around

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:32 pm

The way you spin reality Five… are you sure you’re not a Democrat?

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:35 pm

He is lifer don’t you know that?

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 2:21 pm

lifer is back on sybil vikings side, thinks we are great

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:34 pm

No

Kodiak
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 3:36 pm

Can’t get a philly defense because we are paying too much for our offense. Wait till greasy adolf gives JJ 40 mill a year and we still suck..

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 3:35 pm

Anyone who knows football knows value is the the most important thing in the modern era. It makes a huge difference in the quality of play of the team. You pay a qb 40+ mill, like some and the team suffers if he can’t pick up the slack. You pay a qb 25 mill, like Brady and you win Owls. Right now we will be paying beaker nearly 20 mill when he isn’t on the team. That’s zero value. Zero.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 3:39 pm

Correct but it will never be accepted. They must not remember that he had a 45M cap hit and even the VIKINGS knew they couldn’t do anything with that hit so they kicked the can. They had a perfect chance with so mnay qb needy teams to move him and rebuild a bit. But no! Now they are totally screwed and instead of paying a guy 12M in 2024 they get empty space. fkn idiotic but that’s on these loser owners the most, zero desire to ever win.

Kodiak
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 3:50 pm

Greasy adolf with the worst draft and that deal plus no Hunter in the future right now. Maybe we get a comp pick and trade back for two seventh rounders.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 5:02 pm

unload all the old guys next year and draft a qb, best hope

Kodiak
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 5:50 pm

Only if we get lucky and go 2-15

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:00 pm

5 and Kodiak a hoot but take on KC a bit over the wall.

Kodiak
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 3:31 pm

I agree w/the nfl experts and say beaker is average. Unfortunately his cap hits limit who else we can get and hurt the overall team.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 3:51 pm

There are no NFL experts. You don’t get it. Those GM’s, scouts, and executives miss wide right on draft picks every single year. If they were experts, they would do a lot better don’t you think? And they study draft players for years before they select them. Experts? There are no experts Kodiak..

Fivefingers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 5:05 pm

agree, very avg and thus way way way overpaid

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:14 pm

I never said that. He’s better at 1.6M and all the other guys vs 35m beaker. Everybody knows that except you.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:15 pm

No. Kirk any day. Hurts is going nowhere

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:30 pm

I’d say Five that you throw out totally irrelevant stuff routinely as “proof” of your position on Cousins. Unfortunately Cousins play usurps your skewed argument. He’s really good, behind really bad O-lines and in an offense that hasn’t been built around him the last four years. Everyone knows Cook is the star of the show, and yet Cousins puts up significant numbers and keeps the Vikings in games. Cousins is a top shelf QB and his ability to overcome a terrible O-line in front of him is impressive to say the least.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 2:29 pm

hey, the o-line has been more respectable lately

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 3:29 pm

Yep, they moved up to 27th in pass blocking last season

peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 12:54 pm

(position rk) – player/unit

07 – Kirk Cousins

39 – Dalvin Cook
46 – kneeler Mattison

03 – Justin Jefferson
30 – Adam Thielen
50 – KJ Osborn

50 – Tyler Conklin

16 – offense overall
16 – defense overall
13 – special teams overall

16 – team overall (bonus stat = Vikings ranked FIRST for variance (low) in performance

This team was remarkably solidly average last year. Look for teams to pressure Kirk and double team Jefferson. Thielen’s older. This offense is toast. I’m starting to think .500 might be out of reach.

Fortunately the Lions swapped Stafford for Goff (LOL) and the Bears might be even worse than the Lions this year. Rodgers has no weapons. I’m guessing the winner of the NFC North will get bounced by whichever wildcard team they host.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 12:56 pm

Conklins not even on the roster lol

peterplaysbass
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:02 pm

not anymore – these ranks based on 2021

so we have a TE who is less proven as a Viking than Conklin taking over the position this year – yikes

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:06 pm

Smith’s previous years he was not really featured in the offense but made a lot of nice catches. I wouldn’t say he’s unproven at all. It will be interesting to see if he is going to be a significant piece of the new offense.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:11 pm

I said less proven, not unproven.

Conkling has 900+ yards on 90+ catches, Smith has 600+ on 60+, with zero in 2021. offensive line is more different now compared to 2020 than when compared to last year.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:20 pm

OK… I stand corrected. Conklin was not supposed to be the #1 TE last year though, so I’d say Smith is just plain better than him.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:27 pm

he was deemed better by the coaches last offseason, that’s true.

I’m still skeptical of how big a splash he’ll make this year, but time will tell

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 4:06 pm

Cousins wore teams out with Jordan Reed back in the day. Reed ended up getting injured and missed basically the whole 2017 season though. I was shocked when the Vikings basically took the TE out of the offense when Cousins arrived. Maybe the single dumbest move I’ve ever seen.

KFEY93
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 4:10 pm

Needed them for blocking because our line has been shit for 13 years

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 4:15 pm

and because Zimmer is a run first guy. Build the running game… let the passing game figure it out on its own.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:36 pm

Smith is lightyears better than Conklin. Wouldn’t be shocked if Rudy comes back on vet min as a backup/redzone threat

peterplaysbass
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 2:22 pm

really? I’m reading that multiple teams are showing interest in Rudy. He’s not a Viking for vet minimum next year, book it.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:31 pm

Rudolph sucks.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 2:33 pm

he was almost too slow when he was good

now he’s as slow as Treadwell

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:43 pm

Last 2 years he’s averaged something like 27 catches for 300 yards and one TD per season, I don’t think he has much to offer anyone at this point.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 2:33 pm

I’d rather sign Greenway as a TE than Rudolph at this point

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:59 pm

Bucs and Vikings are the top 2 teams interested in Rudy per reports last week,

I don’t want Rudy as a starter but him as a backup isnt bad. He blocks fine and can catch in redzone.

Zero depth at TE if Smith gets re-hurt

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 3:04 pm

When he get re-hurt. Until he can stay healthy for a year, I have zero confidence in him. At this point he’s more likely to go the route of the guy from Cincinnati a few years ago than to be productive.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  bowbunch
18 July 2022 3:09 pm

I agree, that’s why we need another TE. The backup TE currently on roster is a blocking TE. Huge concern

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 12:58 pm

Thought Cook was ranked 4th in the league?

peterplaysbass
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:09 pm

rank is based on the metric “defense-adjusted yards above replacement level”
Cook is 40th based on “defense-adjusted value over average”

so 39th in game context based yardage efficiency
and 40th in game context based value overall (including non yardage value)

Cook is 37th in “success rate”:

This number represents the player’s consistency, measured by successful running plays (the definition of success being different based on down and distance) divided by total running plays. A player with higher DVOA and a low success rate mixes long runs with downs getting stuffed at the line of scrimmage. A player with lower DVOA and a high success rate generally gets the yards needed, but doesn’t often get more.

Cook was 5th in rushing yards (1159), but with only 6 TDs and 3 fumbles, that’s not quite as good as it sounds at first.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:12 pm

The Bears will be worse than the Lions. Conklin is gone, though all the Viking Hoopleheads are “sure” that Irv Smith will be better. The offense last year was explosive but inefficient.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 1:23 pm

Smith was supposed to be the #1 TE last year not Conklin and the comments coming out of camp indicated Smith was going to be heavily featured in the offense. I’d say that’s a strong indicator that Smith is better than Conklin.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:26 pm

Time will tell, but color me skeptical

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:38 pm

Well no one knows what will happen this year. Smith could pull up lame in the first game and be out for the season again. Or he could take some time to actually learn the offense and come out of the gates slowly. Or he could come out of the gates like a shot and put up big numbers. Obviously we all hope for the latter.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 2:20 pm

sure, but setting the injury scenario aside for a moment, I’m still skeptical. My default expectations are automatically set below the team’s communications.

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 3:46 pm

Lol, competitive rebuild. Yeah, no.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 3:45 pm

I know what will happen. We end the season at 0-62.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:44 pm

I’m sure Irv will be Kirk’s primary target for 3 yard dumpoffs on 3rd and 8.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 1:49 pm

Sorry Ben, all teams do this not just the Vikings.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 2:00 pm

Yeah, I know, but I see Smith supplanting Ham as the primary target for the 3rd and 6+ dump offs for 3 yards.

Kodiak
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 3:43 pm

Why is this so true?

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 1:37 pm

100% agree and that’s what I hope KOC can fix. Being more efficient. Kubiak and Zim couldn’t adjust in-game

The offense last year was explosive but inefficient.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:41 pm

If they can merely decrease the 3 and outs to like league average they’re a playoff team last year.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 1:48 pm

We had a lot of 3 and outs by design though. Zimmer wanted to run clock and/or force the opponents to take their timeouts. Also kneel downs at the end of a game or half count as a 3 and out.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:59 pm

They only had one game end in what would count as a 3 and out, designing your team to lead the league in 3 and outs hardly seems like a recipe for success, especially when your defense isn’t particularly good.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 4:01 pm

I totally agree yet in the 4th quarter, with the lead we saw Zim repeatedly run the ball 3 times usually for negative yards, and punt. I got sick of that.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 4:32 pm

I agree, the Vikings rarely if ever went for throat in those situations, I hated it.

Kodiak
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 5:52 pm

Fucks sake, they played prevent in the second quarter.

Kodiak
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 3:41 pm

Can we still lead the league in runs under 1 yard? Being a playoff team in the nfc isn’t much, basically being top 25 in the nfl.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 4:33 pm

With the oline as it is currently constructed… maybe.

Kodiak
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 5:52 pm

Don’t forget to plan on oline injuries. Hinton might have his breakout year.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:45 pm

Kubiak Jr was in a little over his head in my opinion. Gotta make the jump sometime though. He got the opportunity and was an OC of an NFL team. Seemed like the first drive scripts went pretty well and I think the Vikings led the league in first drive scoring. After that he seemed to not know what to do if we had a “sudden change” and the Vikings got the ball off a turnover deep in the opponents territory. Drives also stalled simply because of Zimmer ball. Zim wanted long, time consuming drives of 10 or more plays and 6 or more minutes to protect his defense. Unfortunately that made the offense immensely predictable. Putting long drives like that together doesn’t help the offense, it limits it.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:13 pm

lmao. QB’s

Allen, Mahomes, erin, brady, russ, stafford, lamar, watson, borrow, herbert

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:22 pm

efficiency metric. Cousins is efficient.

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:30 pm

I don’t know what metric you are using but our defense was 31st. Rodgers makes oline and receivers better, Lions will be a much better team, dabares will suck and likely only beat us once.
Team was 20th overall based on draft position.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 2:32 pm

using DYAR and DVOA over at footballoutsiders

Lions will be much better, you think?

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:36 pm

They had several top draft picks out on IR last season plus the second year of new system. Said to have top 3 oline and the defense will be greatly improved. Goff is the weak link, but he got the rams to the Owl. I see Lions and pack for the division. I see us 1-5 in the division, maybe winning our first game vs dabares.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 3:56 pm

Kirk Cousins has never had a second year in a new system in his entire career as a starter. Yet since becoming a starter he is the only QB in the NFL to have thrown at least 25 TD’s every year. Only two QB’s have thrown for more yards, and only three have thrown more TD’s. One day he might actually have the same OC two seasons in a row. Right now he’s 0 for 8…. Brady had three OC’s in 20 years with New England.

norseman1
norseman1
18 July 2022 12:52 pm

Hey sniffer. Selfishness of American troops. I ‘m loving the gaffes.

Northwoods
18 July 2022 12:49 pm

Z Smith eager to introduce LeDouche to the turf. Can’t wait to see him and Hunter shred the cheese.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 12:50 pm

lol, gonna be a long wait

Kodiak
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 2:27 pm

OC’s will have a field day with our defense. Run, run, run, run for 300 yards a game. Then pass into shit coverage from our cb’s. Any pressure is just a dump off pass to uncovered backs or te.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 1:23 pm

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:55 pm

I have had sign documents that state I will not use my insider knowledge of military contract awards to benefit financially and all my investments are reviewed annually for any potential conflicts of interest. If I were to use my position to benefit myself I could be sent to prison.

You would think all Congressional representatives and their staffs would be required to sign such documents as well.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:58 pm

Instead they wrote laws to protect them lol

xan you give your investment advice to me?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:02 pm

Military contract awards are classified secret until announced. So if I told you something classified I could go to jail for 10 years (unlike Hillary).

Mick
Mick
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:07 pm

I’ll just say I read it on the internet.

🙂

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:24 pm

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:10 pm

buy them ,lol. The MI complex (the defense contractors have doled out 30M to these POS congress people in the last year) just (by design) sent every wweapon in out entire inventory to corrupt ukraine. Buy an index fund of them

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:04 pm

They have rules. They are just really simple and say Pelosi can’t trade. There’s nothing that says she can’t tell her husband and let him trade with the knowledge other than federal insider trading regulations which will never be enforced. Pelosi just has to say she doesn’t talk about it with her husband and has no input on his trades.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:08 pm

weird how that in your face corruption is allowed

MT Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:20 pm

Does that document extend to your spouse? I sign similar documents regarding financial collusion with the hospital and it extends to my spouse.

I was thinking of you on Wednesday…my granddaughter got bit (twice) by a Belgian Malinois. Did you ever get one?

Kodiak
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 2:23 pm

What about kids, grand kids, siblings, etc?

MT Viking
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 4:11 pm

All fine to be suppliers of hospital, etc…

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 4:40 pm

Hey MT… yes it extends to my spouse and immediate family.

Sorry to hear about your daughter. No, we haven’t gotten back to Tampa yet so still gonna be awhile before we get a pup. No dog should be allowed to be aggressive unless that’s their job. Always establish yourself as the Alpha with a dog and ensure they follow your lead. Never allow a dog to be aggressive.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 5:54 pm

Same w/women or they will bite you in the ass.

MT Viking
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:31 pm

I have the Paul Pelosi app…but I don’t like NVidia as an investment. I’ll pass this time.

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:40 am

Know the qb’s who in their 1st 20 NFL starts had 4000 passing yards and 1000 rushing yards?

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:44 am

without looking, I would guess Mahomes, Wilson. Maybe Rodgers – he ran more often earlier.

Hmm, who else? Cam Newton?

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:47 am

Here’s the entire list: Jalen Hurts. The guy who according to all here “sucks” but he took his 85% injured nothing team to the playoffs and has only started 1 year but he sucks and 35 yr old beaker will “turn it around”. lmao

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:50 am

LOL oh he’s @elite@

Hurts:
2021: 16 TDS, 9 INTs and 87.2 passer rating LOL

Kirky:
2021: 33 TDs, 7 INTs and 103.1 passer rating

Shut up 5, you know Hurts sucks too

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 11:55 am

wrong, 1st year starter with half the offense out. Anyway, you’ll be paying on that game and that will teach you

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:17 pm

Honestly, I have a feeling the Vikings will beat the Eagles this year. The Eagles aren’t a pushover by any means but our QB versus their defense and their QB versus our defense seems to favor the Vikings I think. In his nine career games against the Eagles Cousins has averaged over 306 yards a game passing, and has thrown 21 TD’s against 6 interceptions. Hurts against the Vikings??? It’s an unknown, but so far Hurts is far from the QB Cousins is.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:19 pm

Lol, our qb is why we don’t have a shot. Go look at their roster, deepest DL in the NFL now. Hurts and Sanders will run for 200+

Kodiak
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:42 pm

Not to mention the Vikes will be coming off a 3 score loss to the pack. The sunshine and rainbow farts regime will be facing reality and even w/gods gift to the nfl at qb we will get destroyed by daiggles.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 12:50 pm

Kirk beat em last year….

KFEY93
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 2:15 pm

We didnt play the Eagles last year my man. Nor the season before. What year are you living in?

Fivefingers
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 2:16 pm

lol, he’s lifer

Fivefingers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 12:54 pm

correct, their D is smothering good now

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:45 pm

Seriously… Cousins is way more accomplished and has owned Philly his entire career. Don’t see that changing. I doubt Hurts can keep up with the Vikings offense.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:54 pm

want to bet?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:17 pm

LOL, Vikings defense says hold my beer

I doubt Hurts can keep up with the Vikings offense.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 11:59 am

Passer rating is an outdated garbage stat no credible source uses anymore. I wouldn’t go so far as to say Hurts sucks, especially when you add about 700 yards and 10 TDs rushing. He is nothing close to Kirk as a passer though and has a long way to go in that regard. I did not like his long term potential as a passer coming out and I still don’t as I think he’ll never develop into a consistently accurate passer, but if you design an offense around him to take advantage of his running ability like the Ravens have with Lamar, you can win some games and make the playoffs but likely struggle in the playoffs as have the Ravens with Lamar. Also, Mond is a less mobile shittier version of Hurts, just an FYI.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:00 pm

Good thing passing isn’t an important part of playing QB I guess.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
18 July 2022 12:23 pm

Yeah, you can get by in the regular season with questionable passing if the guy can run like Hurts but in the postseason teams are good enough to make you do what don’t do well, Bucs made Hurts throw from the pocket and he was total ass until garbage time.

Kodiak
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:50 pm

Uncle beaker says there’s no such thing as garbage time

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:54 pm

Exactly why Lamar and Hurts will never win an Owl

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:27 pm

I doubt they do either, could be wrong though. Shelf life is another issue for running QBs, how long will the current running QBs last before their bodies starts breaking down? Cam Newton is 6’5 250 lbs and he lasted like 8 years before breaking down physically.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:02 pm

That’s all 5 needed to hear:

I think he’ll never develop into a consistently accurate passer,

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 12:08 pm

I just don’t see it, he wasn’t accurate in college despite playing in two of the most QB friendly programs in the country. So long as he’s on a rookie contract you can win some games with him but I would never pay him.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:55 pm

Even Philly knows he sucks. That’s why they were sniffing around Watson and upper management has already said this is a make or break year for Hurts. Unless he makes playoffs and maybe even win one game, he’s donzo in Philly.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:28 pm

I think they’ll make the playoffs, they did last year and the NFC looks weaker this season. That doesn’t mean they won’t still potentially draft another QB next draft though.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 12:24 pm

I may be proven wrong eventually but I doubt it.

Fivefingers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:03 pm

Correct and he at least deserves some time as last year was his FIRST FULL YEAR on a team with zero wr’s and zero rb’s and 3 OL out. Thye have a top 5 D.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:07 pm

Nah it’s all on the QB.

none of those other players matter. Just the QB

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:11 pm

they do and he still won 9 games, lol

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:13 pm

its the QBs fault win or lose.

prime time? Qb.

blocked punt? Qb.

most points ever allowed in final 2mins of half? Qb.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:16 pm

Missed FG? QB, he should have just scored a TD.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:20 pm

Not entirely, mostly. That’s why they make the most money on the team by 2x over anybody. Wait? You mean any qb will work then? I agree

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:25 pm

I agree, if he were the Vikings QB I’d say he’s below average as a passer and needs to get a lot better to win a SB but at least give him to the end of his rookie deal to see how much better he can get.

Fivefingers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:30 pm

Howie is 5 steps ahead of the loser vikings. He has two 1st rd draft picks next year and no money on qb’s tied up. He knew the qb’s were coming next year and did the smart move. Also had a stellar draft and they are stacked on D. They will win with running, efficint 3rd downs and D. Best DL depth in the NFL. Excellent secondary

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:39 pm

They have a good team overall, they’ll go as far as Hurts can take them, which is likely a one and done in the playoffs.

Fivefingers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:56 pm

They have a shot as the D can keep them in any game if they stay healthy. Davis, Bradberry, Kyzir, etc. Stacked now. DL will rotate 7 deep at least

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:51 am

I liked hurts when he came out.

has a lot to prove.

can’t use stats to say hurts is good and Kirk isn’t though…. Makes ya look like a hypocrite.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 11:53 am

Exactly LOL

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 11:54 am

Typically 5 though, cherry picks his stats and then when we throw it back at him he goes in a different direction or invalidates it

Mick
Mick
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 11:57 am

Usually it’s an insult instead of talking about the actual data.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:17 pm

cry away

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 11:55 am

I can’t? Let’s go off wins last year?

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:58 am

How bout QBR?

wins are a team stat.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 11:59 am

oh

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:03 pm

Yeah.

Kirks worst season as a starter is better than hurts best.

statically speaking….

since becoming a starter… Kirk has thrown more TDs in a season than Hurts has in his career

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:07 pm

Hurts only has 1, lmao. Go look at his wr, rb’s (top 3 were out for many games), new coach/system, lost 3 OL starters.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:11 pm

Ok look at Kirks first season…

4166 29 11. 101.6 passer and 67.8 QBR

Hurts…
3144 16 9 87.2 and 48.5

Kodiak
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:55 pm

Lol and Hurts wins an Owl before Beaker, that would be so Vikings

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:03 pm

QBR last year Kirk #15 Hurts #19, I would have thought they’d be further apart honestly.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:06 pm

Kirks passer rating was 4th… hurts was 22.

Running around helps apparently.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:09 pm

The difference is beaker makes 35M, Hurts makes 1.6M. That means you can add 5 6.4M players. Plus Hurts had nothing to work with. He does this year, trust me. Plus a top 5 D.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:20 pm

WTF has that got to with the discussion on which QB is better? There you go shifting the goal posts.

Also if a QB is really good he gets paid more money.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:21 pm

I never said beaker wasn’t better, I said he sucks

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:41 pm

AND… he doesn’t actually.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:59 pm

I’m sure his wife was gravely disappointed to find that out.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:46 pm

If he sucks… hurts sucks more?

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:53 pm

possibly but Hurts’ team will do better a la surrounding him with a team and paying him1.6M.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:00 pm

Roseman took reagor over JJ.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:05 pm

He also won the Owl, made playoffs with a 1st year qb. turdwell, ponder, turdberry, hughes, gladney

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:11 pm

Passer rating has become an irrelevant stat, DVOA, EPA, even ESPNs QBR show a better overall picture of what a QB does.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:13 pm

Not wrong… but it heavily favors the mobile.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 12:21 pm

That’s a key weakness of beaker, zero ability to move, break a tackle or anything mobile. Teams have to spy those other guys.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:43 pm

You mean like Tom Brady, Brees, Manning, Marino, etc? Mobility isn’t an indicator of great QB play. It usually means the QB doesn’t know what to do so he takes off running.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:52 pm

lol, HOFers. I said it was a weakness of beakers, that is all. He doesn’t know what to do either but he also can’t run. He throws the ball into the dirt or 10 yards off target if anybody gets close.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:00 pm

Well that’s not true.

i think JJ dropped 2-3 sure TDs last season.

Kodiak
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:57 pm

Beaker always has those “I shit my pants and rolled around in it for awhile and now don’t know what to do” games every year.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 12:59 pm

Like Rodgers in the playoffs last year

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:05 pm

yeah he got that punt blocked

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:40 pm

Jalen Hurts had 1,177 rushing yards in his first 20 starts.
QB 2 had 1,726 rushing yards in his first 20 starts.

Jalen Hurts had 623 passing attempts in his first 20 starts.
QB 2 had 3,840 passing yards in his first 20 starts on 509 attempts. Only would have needed 22 more attempts (531) to hit your 4000/1000 mark.

so while QB 2 didn’t meet your criteria, he’s clearly better based on your premise.

QB 2:
Lamar Jackson

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 12:50 pm

I don’t disagree. It is simply that nobody has ever done it and he did. hmmm

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:55 pm

how’d you search players’ stats by their first 20 starts?

Mick
Mick
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:01 pm

Pro-football-reference

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:12 pm

I’m confused by all of the different tools and couldn’t find something that would list players who accomplished X yards within their first Y starts.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:17 pm

Stats muse

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:28 pm

(Tim Allen noise)

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:06 pm

Pro-Five-Reference

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:05 pm

4000 yards passing in 20 starts isn’t all that impressive. It’s 200 yards a game. NFL average for passing yards per game is around 235 yards so he’s well below average. Cousins for his career has averaged 260 yards a game for comparison, so he is well above average. So Hurts thus far is below average in passing and above average in rushing which is pretty much the norm these days for young QB’s. They don’t know what to do with the ball, so they take off running.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:10 pm

Agree, 1000 rushing yards is.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:51 pm

And running QB’s eventually miss games (see Lamar Jackson). If you think putting your franchise QB out there in the open field is a great idea, you’re mistaken. Cousins has never missed a game for injury.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:02 pm

Yet anyway. It also depends on if covid would be defined as an injury. An injury to his immune system

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 4:43 pm

Only you would say something like that…. you have the right to your opinion though.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:20 pm

I would have said Josh Allen.

Fivefingers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:23 pm

Not quite the rushing yards. I was told “he would never throw accurate” too

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:38 pm

Partly true, Allen had some accuracy issues coming out but most people just pointed to his completion percentage without having actually watched him play. He had a bunch of scrub WRs who dropped a ton of passes and a poor oline.

Fivefingers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:39 pm

he worked

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:16 pm

Correct, worked his ass off, which a lot of QBs with talent do and I’m sure Hurts is doing. Sometimes guys develop sometimes they don’t, Ponder had all the physical tools to be a good QB and is an incredibly intelligent guy but didn’t have the mental acuity to dissect defenses and make proper decisions within the few seconds between when the ball is snapped and the pass rush gets home.

Fivefingers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 1:20 pm

ponder is dumber than a bag of hammers, MBA from FSU = WBL high school diploma

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:51 pm

False, married this woman…

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 11:33 am

Kirk haters are in for a rude awakening this season. Kirks never had a coach that wanted him from Gruden through Zimmer.

Finally has a coach that wants him. Unleash the beast baby!

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 11:34 am

lmao

Fivefingers
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 11:39 am

I really appreciate you seeing the truth and the cigars. thank you

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 11:44 am

The defense is what I worry about.

if they can clean up and not need th offense to score 30+ to win… we’ll be in much better shape.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 11:44 am

I’m only worried about three things

offense
defense
special teams

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:45 am

well said

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 12:02 pm

Haha! It is definitely possible that the coaching will be better. At least it will be different to have an offensive minded coach. I would have preferred a bolder approach in the off season, but we all wanted change, so I will give it a chance. At least it won’t be the “same ol, same ol”.

Fivefingers
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 12:06 pm

I think it will but people have to remember there is a learning curve as a HC and this is new to him and they also have totally new systems that the players have to get used to. The D is weak sauce and they could get better but starting rookies, no matter how good, is a learn via mistakes game.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:15 pm

Agree about rookie head coach, players learning new system, and rookie mistakes. No clue if this regime works long term. Not impressed with GM so far, but it’s early. After some rookie mistakes, new coach could be keeper. Still relieved to break free from the old regime.

Fivefingers
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 12:22 pm

I’ll give them a shot. They just don’t have the talent now and they can never ever win the owl with beaker.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:26 pm

I agree with everything you said.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 12:41 pm

sometimes coach/GM change doesn’t come with a lot of change for players on the field. We’ll find out what the new GM & coach find out what we/they have in this group of players this year, and I expect to see some significant change next offseason.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 12:54 pm

Fair point. Also, don’t know for sure, but there were rumors at time of these hires that Wilfs weren’t really looking for significant change.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 12:57 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised. They’re making the moves they need to in order to sell tickets and merch.

Sometimes building a winner takes a couple of down years, but owners often don’t think that way.

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:09 pm

Remember it’s the Vikings, even if beaker goes IR for the season and we get the #1 pick, greasy adolf would screw it up.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 1:13 pm

ha ha ha ha

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:01 pm

praying we can dump Beaker and our 2nd for a 7th or future considerations

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:06 pm

Cook, Smith, Thielen all need new contracts or cut. Hunter ???? Have a ton of one year rentals and just had a terrible draft. Going to get worse before better.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 11:51 am

Agree. Kirk is not a concern

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 11:53 am

lol, yes he is. he sucks when any pressure at all

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:30 pm

Do you actually watch the games Five? Because if you did you would have seen the many dozens of great throws Cousins has made while getting hit. He’s a tough QB who hangs in there and takes big hits while delivering the ball game in and game out because our O-line sucks.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:36 pm

lol

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:10 pm

Uncle beaker daddy??
Secret agent man?

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 11:51 am

Kirk is your biggest concern??? No way. He’s consistent every year he’ll be fine.

It’s the defense I worry about. 90% of the guys have never played in a 3-4

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 11:54 am

true, 7-9, 8-9, 13 fumbles each year. No big wins. .166 vs winning teams yearly

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:35 pm

Let’s see… win loss record is not a performance indicator for a QB. No matter how much you say it. That said Cousins did lead the OT drive that gave the Vikings a win over the Saints in a playoff game did he not? Made two great throws to win it.

You live in la la land and base your perspective of Cousins on his team’s performance, not his. I look at him realistically and somewhat marvel at how productive he is behind a terrible O-line.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:36 pm

beaker is .500 for his career, so not on bad teams. Thus, it’s definitly on him the most, obviously.

KFEY93
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:56 pm

Why is it you have to go back 3 years now to recall the one time he did something clutch in a meaningful game? Thats not what you do for elite , top 10 QBs. You have examples every other game every season. He does it against sub par teams like Detroit and Denver in regular season match ups.

Fivefingers
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 1:02 pm

and he lost to Detroit last year and should have lost twice. They were the worst team after the Jags

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:06 pm

When Mattison was the starter?

when he fumbled deep in our territory that was kirks fault too right?

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:17 pm

35m qb vs worst team, maybe he should have had a bit of a lead?

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:19 pm

Maybe it was the crackback block by Herndon… kirks fault?

it’s funny how hard you try to discredit him yet everyone else has all your excuses.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:26 pm

Right, 35M shouldn’t get you any expectations

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:41 pm

Tough when the other guys keep fucking up.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 1:03 pm

Rodgers was so clutch in the divisional game.

and when they lost to us last year.

Kirk drove with 8 mins down to 2 and the defense gave up 75 yard TD.

kirk drove and put us in Fg range.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 12:24 pm

Get more out of him??? Seriously??? Cousins threw 33 TD’s last year and 35 the year before. He’s put up 124 TD’s in four seasons with the Vikings, more than any Viking QB in their history. He’s done this behind a consistently terrible O-line as well AND being forced to play Zimmer ball for four years with a different OC every year he’s been a starter. WTF more can he do?

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 12:27 pm

do better than this when it counts?

With the Washington Football Team from 2012-17, Kirk Cousins was 4-19 (. 173) against winning teams as the starting quarterback. With the Minnesota Vikings from 2018-21, Kirk Cousins was 6-21 (. 222) against winning teams as the starting quarterback.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:40 pm

Ummmmm the Washington Redskins lost those games. You might note Cousins individual play has always been exceptional. AND idiot Cousins didn’t start till 2015 so the record from 2012 to 2014 was predominately on RGIII.

As far as his “record” with the Vikings, he has had a few poor games, but overwhelmingly he has been the most productive QB in Vikings history. The Vikings kickers and defense have lost the majority of their games.

Facts and all.

Kodiak
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 1:14 pm

Beaker ain’t our biggest problem right now. No talent on defense and lack of depth is what will kill us.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 1:16 pm

he is at 35m for this year and next. No way to get a highly ranked qb in the draft

Kodiak
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 2:15 pm

His 31 mill cap hit is why we have no talent on defense and no depth

Fivefingers
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 2:16 pm

correct

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 3:49 pm

Lol…that’s not even bad for a starting qb. What do you want a top qb getting $21 mill a year? Brady is in Tampa remember.

KFEY93
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 12:53 pm

And what happens if he puts up the exact same stats and we finish with 7-9 wins as I am predicting. What will your stance be then? Will you finally want off this wild ride?

Fivefingers
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 12:56 pm

no he won’t, he will say the EXACT same thing next year

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:59 pm

No. Depends what happens. Offense could easily improve more and the defense could be worse than last year.

If that happens its not the offense fault. Def is the biggest concern I have

Fivefingers
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:02 pm

For sure as they are rebuilding it.

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 12:58 pm

Then blow it up and rebuild. But depends on what happens. Offense could easily dominate and then Defense could suck similar to last year.

If your offense is scoring over 25 ppg you should be winning most of the time.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 1:33 pm

25 ppg was 14th in the NFL last year, just barely above average.

KFEY93
Reply to  SkoIdiers
18 July 2022 4:05 pm

Gonna have to go with Benjamin on this one. Scoring is going up in the NFL. We were average at that as well. We need to be great, not average. I’m just hoping you wont have an excuse for Kirk any more. Because there are none left.

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:10 am

Good news, the mass murderer is retiring finally.

MOVIN’ OUT (ANTHONY FAUCI’S SONG): COVID Doc to Retire by End of Biden’s Term

SkoIdiers
SkoIdiers
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:32 am

Love it. Congress should waste their time investigating him once it switches in midterms like the Jan 6th party

KFEY93
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:32 am

Just in time for him to spend the rest of his life in prison. Hopefully.

Fivefingers
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 11:37 am

I hope so. Once we trounce them in mid terms, hopefully they invoke the 25th and put Trump/Desantis in and then jail with no parole for life the following for treason: biden crime family, clapper, comey, schiff, storzek, paige, roberts, pelosi, lifer, schumer, gilligan, fat whale Cheney, Romney, Frey, mayorkas, pete buttplug, granholm, etc.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:38 am

If Mitch and Kevin are leading both houses… nothing changes.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 11:40 am

they are also on the list

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 1:03 pm

Completely agree. We have a shot at a different Speaker, which is why Kevin is only supporting candidates he knows will vote for him, but anti establishment candidates are winning lots of primaries. Less chance to replace Mitch, unfortunately, not enough openings for new blood in Senate.

Kodiak
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:15 pm

Fucker will be 89 years old. Should have retired 20 years ago before he stole billions

peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:46 am

what’s the best way to find airline tickets?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:48 am

At the airport.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 10:48 am

for gougers, maybe

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:51 am

Cancellations you here about oh boy. Doing a fly-in to Canada the 27th, at least i know i have a flight. Eff airports, done with them.

Fivefingers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 11:07 am

Trapline?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:09 am

Correct.

Fivefingers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 11:22 am

Excellent. We’ve never went that late so they should ne a bit deeper but you should kill them.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:24 am

Guessing leeches/crawlers. Doubt chase baits but will try some deep divers. I just want to get the hell away from this insane country.

Fivefingers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 11:29 am

Yes and you can’t bring them into canada anymore. Order from Halley’s beforehand and do not wait. Canada is somehow in even wrose shape than we are. Many are trying to leave Canada and get their money out. Trudy is a true creep and big time NWO punk. Gas is $8.50 a gallon, everything is expensive. But you’ll love it. Great cabin for a fly in outpost. Great fishing and easy lake to navigate FTMP

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:35 am

Everything ordered. 100# weight restriction per guy. Concerned about leech size. Will see. Woods and water, i can forget all the BS going on in this world. Until i come back and see the stark reality again.

Fivefingers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 11:38 am

We had good size democrats. Get flat of crawlers. I used the Gulp leethes, worked pretty well. You don’t need that much weight. Bit of clothes is all.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:42 am

Yeah, clothes up and back. Shit wear in between. I run lean.

Fivefingers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 11:45 am

Yep, can hand wash if need be a couple things. They don’t provide pillow cases or blankets/sleeping bags.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:49 am

Yeah, they have a bring don’t bring list. Good thing most doesn’t weigh much and graphite gear either. Need a extra pair of shorts tho when i get that 33″ eye.

Fivefingers
Reply to  norseman1
18 July 2022 11:51 am

The father gave half to each kid and the kid who has this lake was a bit screwed up but you’ll be good. You don’t need a lot.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:05 am

The internet.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:08 am

orbitz or the like

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:08 am

1200 Delta pilots have been picketing

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:46 am

uh oh. my wife is a delta fan.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:49 am

My international agent said it’s just a mess and it’s more that they can’t get employees, nobody wants to work for the airlines right now.

freezeyface
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:09 am

hop in vehicle, and drive.
that’s the best airline ticket, imo

Mick
Mick
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 11:27 am

This way you’re least likely to be involved in a plane crash.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 11:46 am

trying to get to Maryland for a long weekend. I don’t think driving is an option.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:50 am

If you go into Baltimore proper bring a gat and flack jacket, worst city ever

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:42 pm

we’re being picked up in an armored truck and driven out to where rich people vacation

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 12:59 pm

excellent, go google the DA’s video she posted, almost unreal it could happen

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:16 pm

Baltimore is high on my list of cities to avoid (in no particular order)

San Fran
DC
Baltimore
New Orleans
Chicago
Seattle
Portland
Detroit
Philadelphia

Wish I could avoid Minneapolis more than I do

manly-purple
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:18 am

Google Flights

MT Viking
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:50 am

I always just use the Delta app.

Fivefingers
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 11:53 am

How are their United and SW prices?

MT Viking
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:59 am

LOL. If they were an option I’d probably use their website.

Fivefingers
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 12:04 pm

better prices on the sites, they buy in bulk I think

MT Viking
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:26 pm

The problem with that approach is when it comes to bumping pax you’re going first. My medallion status with Delta gives me some comfort with overbooked flights.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 12:42 pm

that’s my wife’s method. she’s a Delta-first kind of flyer.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:00 pm

fuck Delta, left me at gate and I missed my Buenos Aires flight. (but they are still better than United). Never go through ATL though, worst delta employees on earth

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 1:14 pm

Atlanta is worth avoiding regardless

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:17 pm

define find???

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 2:23 pm

purchase

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 4:15 pm

I use an agent on big trips, Costs $100 and usually saves $1000. Local American stuff I just get on AK Air site incognito and buy.

Yore Mom
18 July 2022 10:11 am

Go Vikings!

freezeyface
Reply to  Yore Mom
18 July 2022 10:30 am

devin? is that you?

Kodiak
Reply to  Yore Mom
18 July 2022 1:21 pm

New guy?

peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 9:43 am

“Mike Zimmer did not like Kirk Cousins”

Yup. I’ll always wonder what would’ve happened if Bridgewater’s knee hadn’t imploded.

freezeyface
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:02 am

peterplaysbass
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 10:10 am

yes, but the Zimmer defense + efficient game manager QB with the ability to pull out last minute wins was a promising combination, and just beginning to gel.

we had a good Seahawks team beat in the playoffs before that kick missed. 11-5 and that playoff win? upward trajectory the following season.

That team was good enough for Bradford to take far after a full year with the team.

I also will always wonder if 2009 had taken us to the promised land if Childress hadn’t chased Birk out of town. I contend that NFCCG would have happened in Minnesota and turned out differently.

KFEY93
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:09 am

I think Teddy would have been a slightly above average QB with us had the injury not happened. He was a great leader, and is a great person and he looked like he was just starting to figure things out that pre season, his connection with Diggs was evident. That being said, I dont think he could have done what Keenum did in 2017 and I dont think he can put up the stats (which I dont care about) that Kirk does. He had his weaknesses but I think in the proper system, the dude can win games. They wont be blow outs, but he can do it. Would we have won a SB with him healthy? No. I dont think so.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 10:14 am

That’s fair a fair assessment. He’s an underwhelming QB on many teams, so I get it. But I think he had the perfect mix of caution and guts to combine with Zimmer’s best defenses to win a lot of games.

KFEY93
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:21 am

He needed a solid run game to help him out. You cant have an offensive thats build to go deep often with him. He got that in 2015. He would not have got that in 2016. Im curious how he would have looked in Shurmers offense but again, in the past and we will never know.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:32 am

no coach does, Gruden knew he was a loser. He’s a zero leadership dork, nobody likes or respects him.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 10:47 am

zero leadership dork”

Ha!

Yore Mom
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:34 am

“Mike Zimmer did not like Kirk Cousins”

Wasn’t/Isn’t that just like 90% of the NFL?

Kodiak
Reply to  Yore Mom
18 July 2022 1:25 pm

He’s okay, an average qb in the eyes of the nfl. His stats are great yet he is considered average which means he sucks at some intangible.
Uncle beaker daddy retort in 3, 2,1…………….

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:15 pm

Same. It will always be the biggest heartbreak of my sports world.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
18 July 2022 1:20 pm

hopefully nothing will top that in the future

think Teddy will play this year? I wonder what it would take for Tua to get benched

Kodiak
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 1:28 pm

Don’t let your insurance company see this picture.
Dear Mr Henke,
Enclosed is the $12,473.57 increase in your premium due tomorrow for allowing children to ride in your boat while being towed.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 3:44 pm

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Kodiak
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 4:16 pm

They won’t care, lol

Fivefingers
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 9:23 am

likely $100 of gas

Fivefingers
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 9:37 am

evaporation still $50, thx lifer!

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 9:33 am

You’re the only guy in the RE office. Eek.

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 9:35 am

Makes perfect sense to me, believe me.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 9:45 am

the best days at the office are those in which you’re the only person there

MT Viking
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 9:49 am

90% of my day is spent in my office alone. I don’t like interacting with big groups of people. 10% of my day is “shooting the shit” with technologists, nurses, and patients. Really my dream job.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 10:00 am

That sounds nice, although 10% is a little high for me.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:39 am

this you?

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 10:47 am

pretty close

Kodiak
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 1:29 pm

Plus you get to live in an awesome spot and sold your $3,5 mill house.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 9:44 am

boat’s looking as good as ever

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 10:34 am

I think you’re supposed to put the boat in the water and then get in, not 100% though.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 10:36 am

Put a radiator in it, no biggy.

MT Viking
18 July 2022 9:09 am

Had a great but brief visit to the fine state of North Dakota. Found a great out of the way place to kennel the doggo (Bed N Biscuit Ranch Bismarck) that we recommend. Headed over to Fargo and visited with some friends at a German themed restaurant downtown, got to see some of Fargo’s diversity AND watch a Roe V Wade protest. Found a little hidden gem of an RV park, only 7 sites quiet full hookups for $25 in Buffalo, ND. Spent a few of our hard earned tax exempt dollars in Bismarck on the return trip. Always enjoy ND. Only downside to the whole trip is that I-94 just west of Fargo looks like Bristol speedway with big chunks of concrete missing everywhere, and there is literally road construction every 5-10 miles all the way from Fargo to Bismarck.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 9:11 am

Road construction and winter.

two seasons this far north.

MT Viking
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 9:14 am

It’s really something. Nothing like that for the remaining 190 miles between Bismarck and Glendive.

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 9:35 am

heck, if you drove all the way to fargo, you might of well should have made it down to stillwater and visited me

Fivefingers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 9:37 am

Lumberjack Days!

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 9:38 am

Beers at the Dock, Stu pays.

freezeyface
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 9:57 am

just happened this past weekend

Fivefingers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 10:49 am

Did you go?

freezeyface
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:11 am

no, too hot and too many idiots.

Fivefingers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 11:22 am

agree

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 9:40 am

Gosh, what was I thinking?

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 9:58 am

you weren’t, obviously.
if you ever make it down, i know a nice cozy little bed and breakfast we could stay at. i mean, you and your wife could stay at

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 10:12 am

Haha I’ll have to check it out sometime. Although MSP traffic is nightmarish for me.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 10:14 am

No need to go thru there.

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 10:35 am

stillwater is outside the loop, you can stay far away from minneapolis my friend

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 10:50 am

I prefer the Montana Stillwater. There are far less people and many more fish.
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Fivefingers
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 10:49 am

my next door neighbor’s sister has a B&B in stillwater

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 10:59 am

My kid loves Teddy Bear Park in Stillwater.

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 11:12 am

teddy bear park is a nice park…
but if you have or haven’t noticed, it’s in a terrible spot, absolutely ZERO shade in that entire area, gets really hot, very weird.
but yes my kids love it as well.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 11:30 am

Yep, on some super steep side street, not a tree around, about 30 minutes into it I was done but the kid not so much. Dinasaur Park out in Rapid City is like that too strangely enough, its also hard to get to and no trees around in the actual park despite it being in the mountains.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 9:46 am

I’m guessing it was a paltry protest, but I haven’t been the Fargo in several years.

MT Viking
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 9:55 am

It was about a block east, we were on first ave n not far from river…just some drums beating and some indecipherable chants. Much of that area was blocked off for an upcoming street fair and at first I thought it had to do with the fair. Part of the local color was getting the red face gal screaming an obscenity at me while simultaneously flipping me off because I had the temerity to have to back my RV into a parking spot she wanted so I could turn around where the street was blocked. Must have been a very stressful day for her and then having to deal with such adversity.

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 9:58 am

thoughts and prayers headed her way

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 10:15 am

Fo sho!

peterplaysbass
Reply to  MT Viking
18 July 2022 10:05 am

Sounds like she’s had quite a journey. She should write a book.

Every once in a while in good ol’ Elk River MN we get 3 or 4 people standing in front of the government building holding homemade signs against ICE. One day I had the pleasure of visiting the govt building on the same day they were protesting and I was about 10 minutes ahead of schedule, so I had time to ask them why they were against the agency that arrests the most child sex traffickers. It was a fun convo. They were nice enough and the conversation was civil, but their only point was “separating families is evil” despite the fact that it happens to legal citizens all the time. I asked them if the children should not be separated from the father after a DUI or after CPS is called and abuse is confirmed.

“That’s different”

Zeal without knowledge is dangerous.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:48 am

I agree with them, should deport the entire family and/or shoot them for invading

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:01 am

“That’s different”

Lol, meaning it doesn’t fit their narrative.

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 1:49 pm

I have had that conversation and here is the playbook.
Psycho: I’m against separating immigrant families. It’s evil.

Reply. Okay. You understand the only people put in detention are criminals who have been caught illegally invading our country, right? Statistically over 30% of the children are not w/their families but being smuggled in by strangers.

If the children of the invading criminals are kept in the general population of invading criminals, history has shown they will be raped and sodomized by the other invading criminals in detention. So the federal gvt passed a law to put the children of the criminals into protective custody so they weren’t raped and sodomized. This has been in law over 20 years. So yes, Obama did it too.

The reality is we have is 2 choices currently. Keep the children in the general population to be raped and sodomized or put them in protective custody. Those are the facts as we do not have the resources to have other options.

So if you are against separating the children and putting them in protective custody, that means you would prefer they are raped and sodomized by the other criminals. If you support the children being raped and sodomized, you would be the first person I have met that has done so. If not , you support separating families.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 2:25 pm

sodomy is cool to these people though

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 2:41 pm

Just an orientation, not a disease.

Kodiak
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 4:18 pm

Most libs have a breakdown when this is explained to them. They want an alternate reality and are upset w/the facts.

Northwoods
18 July 2022 8:42 am

Went to the Northern WI State Fair to see this guy. After his show we went to a hole-in-the-wall in Chippewa Falls. In he walks. Nice guy, tolerated his adoring fans well.

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freezeyface
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 8:55 am

who are you talking about and which one are you

Northwoods
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 9:03 am

Charlie Berens wearing the glasses – comedic legend in Manitowoc, not so much elsewhere. I’m far left, that’s my wife, and brother-in-law.

freezeyface
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 9:04 am

i was wondering if it was that guy!
he’s hilarious.

Northwoods
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 9:18 am

“Sorta” famous. Does a lot of Wisconsinism accent comedy.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 9:26 am

Ever go to “Big Swede’s” (no I don’t own it even though I’m a big Swede) by Lake Holcolm?

Northwoods
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 9:54 am

No – is it worth the trip? I don’t get up that way often – usually head up 53 instead of 27.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 10:50 am

That area around Holcombe is fun and the flowage there is nice

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 11:45 am

Spoiler alert, Big Swede gets his ass kicked

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Fivefingers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 11:52 am

Great movie, know who Swede was? ex NFL guy

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 12:02 pm

Yeah, I forget his name but remember he played in NFL for short time.

Fivefingers
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 12:25 pm

Pete Koch

Northwoods
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 9:05 am

If you search Manitowoc Minute you’ll get tons of his videos.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 11:40 am

Is Manitowoc where that hillbilly and his nephew who is borderline intellectually disabled may or may not have murdered some gal at a salvage yard?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 9:02 am

That’s great, sounds like fun, who is “this guy”?

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 9:05 am

charlie berens DUH

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 10:45 am

Shmae on me, I so dumb

Northwoods
18 July 2022 8:36 am

Can someone tell me how to add a picture?

Fivefingers
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 8:38 am

click icon on bottom right

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 8:38 am

In the lower right corner of the comment box is an icon to add an image. I think you have to type in a comment, then click the add image icon to paste a picture though.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Northwoods
18 July 2022 8:49 am

Five and NVF’s instructions work and you can also just paste a link into the comment box as long as it ends in a file extension, ie .jpg. gif, etc. Facebook doesn’t seem to work.

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 8:09 am

Posted by the great Ted Nugent, lmao

here I am visiting a democrat controlled blue city surrounded by Trump haters in a rare moment without their masks

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peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 9:48 am

LOL

Fivefingers
18 July 2022 8:06 am

Good shooting by those cops on that crazy thug from somalia.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 7:38 am

Sun rose in the East today too.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 8:32 am

What did he do this time? LOL!

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 8:38 am

Athletic skills made him millions upon millions. If he had to rely on brains he’d be on the street. He may want to thank God if he has a mind to. Oh wait…….

Wrenage
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 10:39 am

The appropriate response to such booing is to drop 50 on the other team and walk out of the arena pointing at the scoreboard and laughing.

L. A. Player
Reply to  Wrenage
18 July 2022 8:50 pm

The Michael Jordan strategy

freezeyface
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 8:56 am

you are only now just realizing this??

freezeyface
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 9:05 am

haha yes, same here.
just when you think he can’t get any dumber, he gets dumber.
i suppose he would call me a racist for saying that too

Mick
Mick
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 9:10 am

You white?

autoracist.

L. A. Player
Reply to  Gone fishin'
18 July 2022 8:48 pm

You DO realize that is an insult to idiots!!!

No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 7:33 am

I think the populace should all rise up and demand the President and his administration immediately return the country to the energy independence that we achieved under Donald Trump. This is a National Security issue. Dependence on any country for any commodity (like China for pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for instance, or Russia, Saudi Arabia, or Venezuela for oil) that affects National Security is a terrible plan. Trump understood the serious mistakes politicians had made over the years, and he knew “America First” was the only way to secure the Nation.

We the people must now demand “America First” as the focus of this administration.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 7:38 am

Manufacturing is starting to onshore again. Talking with several people it’s coming back due to the supply chain issues. Easier to have supply and pay a bit more for it than be 50+ weeks out on orders.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 7:45 am

Trump pushed this agenda and was roundly criticized by the left. They want a “Global economy” and the New World Order which makes the U.S. far weaker, and of course pushes our dollars to lesser Nations to support them. I am all for helping others, but weakening this country to benefit others is stupid. I mean dumber than a box of hair. It’s also insanely dangerous as we have seen clearly with the pharmaceutical dependency on China with the Pandemic. How many Billions did China make on the Pandemic, and how much did we suffer because of that dependency? WHY would the Dem’s purposely eliminate our energy independence as soon as they took office? What benefits their agenda by doing so? Oh yeah, if we have no oil then everyone will have to buy electric cars… except the National power grid could never support the load if we all drove electric cars.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 7:50 am

They hate the USA and should be shot for treason

Mick
Mick
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 7:51 am

Yeah they aren’t doing it because the gubmint says… it’s Becuase the private sector dictates they need to to get ahead.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 7:55 am

The gov’t is beyond stupid to allow many of these things to be made overseas though

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 8:04 am

I do not disagree.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 9:52 am

One of the biggest problems for Trump (that’s less talked about than his brutish demeanor) was that the left AND the neo-conservatives both resist the idea of “America first”. I would have thought the Middle East mess with GHWB and GWB would have been enough to convert most Republicans to paleo-conservatives, but it turns out both sides have many thoughtless followers that resist change until clever phrases and terms like “MAGA” and “RINO” catch on.

Fivefingers
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 11:04 am

That shows how stupid people are. If they cared an iota about trying to understand someone they would realize that being a developer in NYC is possibly the most difficult and ruthless business there is and they want a choir boy. Choir boys finish last (see: beaker). But more importantly, they should focus on policy.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 7:50 am

Chips are 3-4 years out still, sad that both business and gov’t can be that fucking stupid

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 8:04 am

Another thing being looked at.

bigger companies are starting to push hard for it to be done here..

get the precious metals mines opened up.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 8:06 am

It already is but takes a while. The funny part is their is a “chip act” for funding by the gov’t but the taiwan firm wants to tap into that even though they are a foreign company. Pathetic. Car makers are on it too. Apparently, Intel’s chips are not as good as others though.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 8:12 am

Yeah Apple brought their chips in house and to the states I believe. More will follow.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 8:16 am

fuck Apple, a treasonous anti American company ran by a fkn pansy hypocrite.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 8:20 am

Ok fiver.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 8:29 am

not hard to research

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 8:37 am

Research what? Your opinion?

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 8:40 am

Nothing to do with opinion. Apple has continually criticized the US while they shuttered their cali plants, moved all to china. Workers there made $1 a day, no OT and they got criticized and move literally further inland. They purposely refused to help the US gov’t. They have purposely slowed older phones. They are ok with blasting the US while china has zero human rights.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 8:46 am

Yeah.. it’s the American double standard… why they do it.

dollar is what counts though.

Fivefingers
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 7:48 am

100% correct

DE Viking
18 July 2022 6:59 am

Gun carrying Good Samaritan kills and stops a mass shooter. What will the libs and media do?
Arrest the Good Samaritan?

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
18 July 2022 7:04 am

Can’t be the party of law and order if you don’t follow the LAW.

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Mick
Mick
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 7:10 am

More people not killed with AR and libs everywhere are sad.

🤡🤡🤡

Eric Scott
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 7:14 am

You are picking nits…

My kids barely missed the knife wielding would be assassin in St. Cloud a few years ago. A legal gun stopped that event.

I’m sure that there are several people there at that mall my cousin goes to (like me) who don’t care how it got stopped…

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 7:24 am

This is the spin the left will continue to push out. Mass shooters? Bad guns. We need to take guns away from law abiding citizens as the answer. Legal gun owner shoots mass shooter and saves lives? This is breaking the law and we need to take guns away from law abiding citizens.

Disarming the populace is a necessary prelude to subjugating and oppressing them fully. NEVER give up a single one of your freedoms or rights no matter the reasoning the left provides. It never works out well for you if you do.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
18 July 2022 9:54 am

The longer I live the more fully I endorse Charlton Heston’s sentiment: “…from my cold, dead hands”

KFEY93
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 8:44 am

Do you even know what AR actually stands for with out googling it Lifer?

freezeyface
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 8:58 am

AR to lifer means Against Republicans

KFEY93
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 9:06 am

Among other things, im sure.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 3:32 pm

That’s what I always thought.

KFEY93
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 10:55 pm

Yeah I didnt think so.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 9:37 am

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bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 9:37 am

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benjammin
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 10:49 am

99% of leftists think it means automatic rifle.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 11:18 am

Assault Rifle. Very scary with the black and a handle.

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
18 July 2022 11:33 am

Automatic or Assault is what almost everyone thinks. And their wrong lol.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 11:41 am

Yeah, tomato tamato.

freezeyface
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 8:58 am

LOL
this is the exact same argument as being against prolife because of the .001% of women getting pregnant by rape or incest.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 9:06 am

A person who was lawfully armed — identified as a 22-year-old man from Bartholomew County — shot and killed the gunman, according to Ison.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 9:10 am

I read the police said he was lawful… I didn’t care enough to find it again.

Fivefingers
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 9:22 am

he was, coter follows the mentally ill who always have to push communism

freezeyface
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 9:37 am

i just did a little more research….so the whiny anti gun people are mad he lawfully has a conceal and carry and was carrying in a mall where you are supposed to not carry? my gosh, the world is full of too many idiots.

Mick
Mick
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 9:42 am

If the sign is posted all they can do is ask you to leave. It’s when you refuse that issues arise.

obviously the killer ignored the signs.

freezeyface
Reply to  Mick
18 July 2022 10:02 am

the killer is the victim here

L. A. Player
Reply to  freezeyface
18 July 2022 8:43 pm

Well, how can you have many in a gun free zone if some legal carry guy kills your shooter? You know only law abiding citizens should keep guns out of a gun free zone!

peterplaysbass
Reply to  Fivefingers
18 July 2022 9:56 am

Did the mall have a little sign that said that they “ban guns on these premises” ?

I wonder why the original shooter didn’t obey the sign?

Outlaws will always have guns, and will bring them where they should not be. I can think of no better earthly deterrent than an armed populace.

Kodiak
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 2:02 pm

The issue is the law that made bringing a loaded gun into the mall illegally.

L. A. Player
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 8:39 pm

So the fact that he was legal to carry and saved many lives hurts your feelings and narrative?!? You must have wanted no intervention and many more injured and killed to make a point. You are showing that to you people saving lives is a bad thing. Legal guns and no abortions will cut into your thirst for blood. SMDH!

Fivefingers
Reply to  DE Viking
18 July 2022 7:51 am

Yup, try to jail him and give the mass murderer an award

Lifer
Admin
18 July 2022 6:57 am

I forgot how much of a smoke show she was. My goodness….

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Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 7:06 am

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peterplaysbass
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 9:57 am

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 11:05 am

Why do you look so angry?

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 8:17 am

Agreed, she was HOT!

DE Viking
18 July 2022 6:48 am

6 or 7 more days of offseason koolaide. Can’t wait until the purple crack kicks in!

SKOL!

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
18 July 2022 6:58 am

Pass me the pipe…

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DE Viking
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 7:01 am

LOL

KFEY93
Reply to  DE Viking
18 July 2022 8:44 am

I’ll start shooting the purple heroin if they have a winning record by time they play the Bills and actually win that game. Then I might start to believe. Until then, destined for .500 and average.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 9:58 am

when’s the Bills game?

KFEY93
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:03 am

Mid November if im not mistaken.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 10:06 am

if the Bills game puts the Vikings 2 or more games over .500, I’ll probably get excited.

I don’t have the schedule in front of me though – so maybe not. depends on the difficulty of the preceding and remaining teams.

KFEY93
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:30 am

Cowboys, NE, GB and possibly the Colts will be the hardest games left on the Schedule at that point. They wouldn’t be out of the woods. There’s good/competitive teams scattered through out the whole schedule imo. The easy stretches dont last for more than a game or two.

peterplaysbass
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 10:48 am

at least, that’s how it looks at this point. A team or two on the schedule will flop from bad to good and vice versa

KFEY93
Reply to  peterplaysbass
18 July 2022 10:50 am

Very true. Which is why I think the schedule will be more difficult than others are saying. 7-9 wins is what I am seeing at this point.

Kodiak
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 2:13 pm

With the right guys on IR we could win 3 games.

Kodiak
Reply to  KFEY93
18 July 2022 2:12 pm

Remember Dec of 18 when we payed dabares in the final game to get in the playoffs? Expect a repeat if we are even in the running.

KFEY93
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 3:59 pm

Correct, which is why I said they will be right around .500 mark again. Time is a flat circle.

Surly Viking
Admin
18 July 2022 4:45 am

Morning.

Mondays….

Kodiak
Reply to  Surly Viking
18 July 2022 4:51 am

Another magical day in paradise. No Vikes arrested lately, which is good. When is the Watson decision coming out? Been years, you would think that gal judge would let us know. Either way, likely riots because someone is pissed.

Lifer
Admin
Reply to  Kodiak
18 July 2022 6:06 am

Yes agree the team that leads the NFL in arrests since the 90’s has been behaving. Thing is the bombshell season killer happens with a week or two to go before the season opener typically. Teddy, Sparano, AP etc….of course I think most of that was potbellies Zimmer’s bad luck.

the Watson ruling is coming any day now. I believe the lady judge will say the burden of proof by law was not met and will give Watson no disciplinary action which means the NFL and Goodell can’t appeal and he’ll start week 1. You heard it here first.

Kodiak
Reply to  Lifer
18 July 2022 6:17 am

Bombshell season killer- lots of options.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Surly Viking
18 July 2022 6:40 am

Morning…

Mick
Mick
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
18 July 2022 6:41 am

HUNViking
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
18 July 2022 7:52 am

Morning!

peterplaysbass
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
18 July 2022 9:59 am

LOL at the girl’s face

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