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It’s my dad’s birthday today, he would be 101 years old if he were still here. He was a paratrooper, a veteran of WWII and Korea, and a great man. Happy birthday, dad!
I see Rick Spielman chimed in on the Vikings’ situation with Sam Darnold. He makes some valid points, but it’s still Rick Spielman. I do agree that it seems foolish to release a QB playing at Darnold’s current level when his replacement is a guy who hasn’t played a down of NFL regular season football, especially knowing the Vikings’ luck with drafting franchise QBs. Sitting & learning may be helpful for McCarthy like it was for Rodgers, Mahomes, etc. It’s something to Ponder.
Vikings News
Sam Darnold was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week for his masterpiece performance against the Falcons on Sunday, per Vikings.com.
Vikings.com has Vikings @ Bears week 15 preview, also listen to Kevin O’Connell’s Wednesday presser where he stresses that the team’s best football is yet to come.
Former Vikings GM Rick Spielman thinks the Vikings should re-sign Sam Darnold to a “bridge deal”, around 3 years/$100 million, from The Viking Age. I’d consider the argument if it wasn’t Rick making the argument.
NFL News
Bill Bilichick finalized a deal to become the new head coach of the University of North Carolina, from NFL.com. I kinda thought he’d go the college route, he’s already accomplished everything there is to accomplish in the NFL, and then some.
Also at NFL.com, facemask penalties could be subject to replay assistance in 2025. And Sam Darnold said “Hallelujah!”.
CBS Sports provides an update from the NFL owner’s meetings.
Browns owner, Jimmy Haslam, is non-committal on Deshaun Watson’s future with the Browns, per CBS Sports. The contract that he signed with Deshaun Watson is not non-commital, though. The Browns will pay him regardless of whether he plays for them or not. Dummies.
Media Selection
I found this one interesting, enjoy!
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Canadian official threatens to cut off energy to the United States | CNN Business
I don’t think the Canadians quite understand they are not dealing with Biden anymore.
They have to sound tough before they roll over and become the 51st and 52nd states.
Just what we need. Two states each three times the size of Alaska with 30+ million voters that will all vote Democrat.
Eastern half will vote woke.
Western half not so much.
Trust me, the western half would vote left of Republican. Pension system, healthcare, etc…
Healthcare?
Canadians that can afford it come to the US for healthcare already.
If they don’t surrender, we will make them take Wisconsin…
Can we just make them take Green Bay?
Whoa, let’s not be cruel! We’ll never win their hearts and minds that way.
If they really screw up, give them Philadelphia.
when trump starts drilling here, the canadians will come around
I thought it was Friday.
You be careful around these parts if Trump said it wasn’t Friday most of this place would go along with it. (guys I’m teasing you, Trump told me I could so there, now you can’t get mad at me).
I heard somewhere that the current points leader in the NHL got pasted at home last night by some small market team.
The German is making a case for being midseason MVP. He was a beast last night, tossing Wild defenders around.
Wild didn’t look like themselves last night, didn’t think the Oilers could dismantle them like this. Weird game, but a very strong outing from the Oilers, no doubt.
Gophers going to the Dukes Mayo Bowl.
How freaking awesome is this !!!!!!
I wonder if that is actually Mayo… if so… That’s gonna stink and suck to get off haha.
Will Levis would see this and have the same reaction as most would have to a nekid Sydney Sweeney.
I don’t follow. Not sure about Will Levis and how he views Mayo…
He puts mayo in his coffee.
i think it was proven that he was being sarcastic about that whole thing.
it obviously stuck though
I don’t care if it is true or not, I heard it once, so it is fact.
it’s pretty cool actually, they donate all of that mayo to the poor/needy families after dumping it like this.
#sharingiscaring
Oh wow, that is crazy. You’d think it might get spoiled getting on the ground and stuff.
He said poor and needy families, like it matters if it is spoiled.
The comments above do not reflect on the actual thought process of the person who typed it. It was for comedic value, please note the sarcasm font.
I want to thank everyone for their emotional support during this trying time…
I’m gonna bring down the price of groceries very simply. He says.
Shortly later: ““Look, they got them up, I’d like to bring them down,” he said, “It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up. You know, it’s very hard.”
Haha, this guy.
Who?
C’mon
Sounds like something Joe Biden would say to me.
I’m sure some lefty will use this to prove he committed rape or something.
I have seen lefties try and post this around… Either those people posting it just read the very misleading title or are stupid, probably both.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-praises-project-2025-2000245
My response:
I mean the headline of the news article could have also been, “Donald Trump said, “I vehemently disagreed with, and I thought it was inappropriate” about Project 2025.” He said both things. Either one doesn’t tell the whole story of what he actually said and is misleading.
I would still rather have Trump then “This Guy” doing stuff like this……..
Biden admin quietly clears away border wall parts for auction ahead of Trump’s second term
Man, Dems and Pubs are so laughably and thoroughly programmed to be blindly obedient to their side through and through.
I too would take Trump over Biden, I have said that repeatedly. But I just found that funny that he has turned back on that stance before even getting in office about groceries prices.
sounds like he is explaining that it won’t happen overnight and that it will just take time to get things back down to where they were.
He is the one that said it was going to be very easy and simply done. Now, it’s hard and probably won’t happen haha. Dis guy.
i have no doubts they will come down. but it will take time.
i don’t think anyone actually thought they would drop the second he took office. i mean that’s just thinking with a brain…
but the fact of the matter is Trump won the election because every single american’s life is more expensive to live now than it was 4 years ago, and he will change that, whether it’s groceries, gas, etc etc. and THAT is why i voted for him
@The only reason I voted for him was his spouse is hotter@
Well, I have hope he will change it for the better but saying he will for sure is yet to be seen.
consider that my trump like GUARANTEE
When Joe B was talking yesterday he had that soft spoken gravelly voice thing going, I started giggling because he sounded just like Clint Eastwood in Pale Rider.
This shouldn’t surprise anyone. DT tells the people what they want to hear and then backtracks when the rubber hits the road. I’m still waiting for the bigger, better, and more beautiful Healthcare plan that he was going to roll out within his first year when he was elected in 2016.
Careful anytime someone points out anything damning of Trump around here the folks go into, “oh yeah well the other guy did this.” Mode, instead of just being able to admit basic facts. It’s the same thing Biden supporters do… then both sides wonder why the other side can’t see the issues at hand and why nothing changes… look in the mirror.
Remember your blood pressure Edge.
Been in the 120s even teens a few times the last few months. I have honestly gained some weight but I have been lifting too and I can tell arms and shoulders are bigger, shirts around those areas are tighter while pants and midsections of clothes fitting looser and looser so doing well lol.
That’s good to hear.
SF linebacker refused to enter the game last night and walked to the lockeroom instead.
LOL…. Former Puker player.
Guys a fool. He plays behind two all world LB’s an d has only been on field because Greenlaw was injured. What did he expect was going to happen when he came back.
My therapist said I need to stop living in the past, but how can I not when I exist in a world of Thursday threads on Fridays?
The struggle is real.
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Purdy with the pick, Rams up 9:6. 9ers not doing us a favor, it seems.
No Favors.
LA 12-6 over SF.
3-3 at the half.
I can’t see the game.
Is it good defenses or bad offenses?
Good defense and terrible weather. Raining hard.
Rain is letting up in the second half.
Thank you for the info.
Yes
7 punts in the first quarter. What a barn burner.
Stafford’s a QBR of 39.5 and Purdy at 67.2 at the moment.
You’re the Vikings GM. What if?
What if Darnold continues thriving under KOC, continues improving, steps it up to elite level, and leads the team to a Super Bowl win. This is just hypothetical, bear with me.
if that happens, do you consider re-signing Darnold & trading McCarthy?
Yes.
No.
You do not trade McCarthy, even if you decide to keep Darnold around for a year or two since there is a greater than zero chance he turns back into a pumpkin. Plus, even if they get to the SB, I don’t see where there is enough time to decide that Darnold is “elite”. He is a product of the system. I’d rather re-sign him and then trade him if KOC thinks JJ is better. Otherwise just play it out for a couple years and go from there.
McC on rookie contract, worth lots more looks. Pretty sure Sam can get a 3 year deal with lots more than 10 mil.
Yes you resign Darnold.
Yes you trade McCarthy.
Trading a top 10 pick that hasn’t proven to be a dud is a horrible idea.
Well I guess if they offer you enough you have to consider it.
Otherwise NO.
This is America. Everyone is entitled to their own wrong opinion…even you.
100%.
If the team wins the SuperBowl, I would be more than a bit upset that my Daughters trip to vegas was cancelled due to the crowdstrike issue and I had given her $20 to put on the Vikings to win. I would have won thousands, on a twenty dollar bet.
Other than that, sure. Sign Sam, but I would keep JJ and eventually trade him or Sam if the value was there. Maybe JJ is better than Sam. Could be.
KOC thinks so.
Sign Darnold
Keep JJ
Unfortunately, this is an incomplete question. Maybe the better question is at what price do you consider signing him? Can you get a reasonable enough offer to not destroy the direction we are going?
Let’s not jump into “future cap hell”
I would love to have this problem.
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/dallas-cowboys-playoffs-chances-2024-25/
@AMERICA’S TEAM!@
I have a great investment idea!
If only I knew someone who was so flush with cash they could just drop a hundo like pocket change…
Hundred Dollars?
Don’t ask NoDak, that rube is already down $600 this week.
I’ve set the bait…now to wait…and then!
What is this investment of which you speak? In a few short months I will have 1600 dollars in winnings to work with.
Speaking of investments, I chuckled at this little anecdote.
So imagine you have a son (or stepson in my case) whose best friend lives down the block, they’re always hanging out, you take them fishing or hiking or what not during their pre teen and teenage years. The best friend and stepson, through some quirk of fate, end up starting college the same time you go to gouger school. Best friend gets a bizness degree from Notre Dame, about the time you have the opportunity to make some side gouger bucks during gouger school decade he leaves a big Chi-town financial firm and does a startup on his own. Since you trust the kid, you and your wife decide to help him out by investing a bunch of side gouging cash in his investment firm. Since it is a limited partnership S-corps, you have to absorb the tax implications etc of dividends, stock sales, etc. (which sucks). Over the next twenty years, kid does really really well, like the ROI curve compared to the Russell index is like climbing Mt. Everest vs climbing North Dakota’s highest point.
He calls me yesterday, said he is going to distribute some earnings, about 16% to be exact, to each partner proportional to their investment to keep the fund manageable and “nimble”. My share is paltry compared to what he said he currently holds in assets under management. $265 M! WTF! If I had 265 M in people’s money under management I told him I would die of an ulcer within a week. I’d be constantly checking the market. So I guess I have no problem diagnosing widely metastatic cancer and talking to patients about it, but I would freaking die to be responsible for someone else’s money.
‘he is going to distribute some earnings’
You failed to mention how much you are getting.
And just in time for Christmas.
Going to throw a Skoloholics Holiday Bash for us all?
#grin
16% of little is very little. There are only 81 investors in the closed fund, and there have been no new investments allowed in over five years. Someone(s) is sitting on a big stake.
You will have too much money right now which will give you ulcers….you should throw a Skoloholics Holiday Bash for sure!
I know what you mean though…being responsible for your own money is one thing…looking after someone else’s is a whole different story.
I second this.
Vikings Injury Report
Stephon Gilmore CB Hamstring – DNP
Aaron Jones RB Back – LP
Patrick Jones OLB Knee – LP
Andrew Van Ginkel OLB Hip – LP
Josh Oliver TE Wrist/Ankle – FP
Bares Injury Report
Ryan Bates OT Concussion – DNP
Josh Blackwell CB Knee – DNP
Gervon Dexter DT Knee – DNP
D’Andre Swift RB Groin – DNP
Elijah Hicks S Ankle – LP
Travis Homer RB Head – FP
Need Gilmore back.
Yes we do
our pass defense is trash with or without Gilmore…
would rather he get fully healthy sit this week, so we have him for the crunch time/playoffs. heck. sit next week too..
fabio did FINE in his place. they all suck haha
I’m assuming you are talking about Van Ginkle? If so, I didn’t know he played corner.
Fabion Moreau, is who I believe he is talking about.
bowbunch is an idiot
Remember when you assume you make an ass out of u and me
I think he has a man crush on Van Ginkle…
You’re right. It would make way more sense that you are talking about the guy who had 3 sacks against the Falcons and not the guy who actually looks like Fabio.
not my fault you were wrong and didn’t know who i was being super vague about
yeah, we’ll fight if we want to!
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Belicheat onto UNC.
Might be interesting next season.
Personally, I think he flames out at the college level.
Today’s college kids won’t mesh with Belicheat’s style.
North Carolina is the Bible Belt, he might last a little longer.
Speculation is he is looking for a job that he can leave to his son.
I just dropped a hundred dollars for the Vikings to win the Super Bowl.
#nojinx
That’s just like losing your wallet with $500 cash in it.
LOL
nodakrube must be flush with cashhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Who misses $500 when you are doing this?
Exactly.
$500 here, $100 there…
I guess Nodak is just a Gouger while MT is the SuperGouger.
That’s right, biaches, don’t forget it!
I am nowhere near MT in Gouger class…..I am merely a humble, hard-working CEO – just trying to make it day by day.
See, I am trying to make up for the lost $500 by winning $1600.
By betting on the Vikings?
There is a scripture about that. Something about a fool and money.
something something is quick to depart from something something
Better than giving it to the government, even though when he wins they will take most of his winnings.
Proverbs 13:18 “a fool and his money are soon parted”
Or
Proverbs 21:20 “Precious treasure and oil are in a wise man’s dwelling, but a foolish man devours it.”
I knew you knew those.
That’s nothing, Taylor Swift sold her sole for the Chiefs to win.
Soul?
Or something to do with footwear?
I assumed she sold the bottom of her shoe.
ppb would probably pay good coin for that.
I have seen boxers sell their backs for advertising.
I assume the sole of their shoe would probably be worth a bit less.
Odds are +1700 now, so you’d win $8,500.
+1700 means bet a$100, win $1,700
Right, and 1700 x 5 =8,500
Shit, for some reason I thought he said he bet $500
No I lost 500 when my wallet was stolen.
Alright, that’s it, I’m ready to bail on YouTubeTV. Can’t get good OTA signal where I am, and I need the local channels for NFL and also ESPN and NFL Network.
Any recommendations?
Step 1. Play and win the lottery.
Step 2. Buy the NFL.
Step 3. Sell the broadcast rights to whatever service comes in best at your house.
I’ve been pretty happy with Hulu. There is definitely a lag compared to the over the air broadcast though. I get texts from people about plays I haven’t even seen yet. I play through a Fire Stick and it seems a little ahead on my phone typically but still behind by about 10 seconds.
Yeah same for YTTV.
Yeah, I am with you. Was $35 / month when I signed up. Now they want $82 plus fees.
Not sure what I am going to do either. Wife likes routine. It took me until this time last year to finally lose the land line…..
She hates change, but I hate being overcharged. I also cannot get OTA signal.
You can do a land line for free you know.
I do not want a land line. At all.
And we paid $20/ month for one for years. All it was used for was our land line voicemail. I even had the ringer turned off completely the last few years.
It is like a security blanket for her or something…
I was required to have a Landline for my work at the Prison.
Kept it afterwards as we would get a useful call once a month or so (usually from my Mom who only uses cell phones in emergencies).
Have not gotten a landline since the move, and have not missed it at all.
We have a land line as part of the Comcast package.
It’s more expensive to just have cable by itself so we go with the triple play. (Cable, Internet, Landline)
But we haven’t used a landline for at least 10 years.
We watch cable and see the “phone” is ringing on the TV screen.
I’m sure we have hundreds of messages about getting rich from Nigeria.
Yep, we had the same, but then went with just internet and phone. Phone was free for the first year, then 20/month.
Power goes out, you have no phone. Really no need to pay extra for that when you have a cell phone.
Haven’t had a land line in years.
Yeah, it sucks. Tired of the hikes. Tired of having to pay for 100 channels but only using 5.
Cable all over again.
‘having to pay for 100 channels but only using 5’
Signed up for Fox Nation a week or so ago.
1st year is free since I am a Vet, 2nd year like $1.80 a month.
We have watched 3 shows on it in that time, Not bad for free.
Last one was the Danny Penny interview.
They are all going up. I have Hulu Live and it just went up again. So did Disney Plus.
We still have a landline. I’m not sure why. It used to be because cell reception was poor at our house since we are in a valley just below a ridge. Now the only people that call the landline are spammers, my mother-in-law (she may fit in category one also) and my wife when she is calling me. I’m not sure why she doesn’t just call my cell phone.
I know why…she is confirming you are at home and not down at the club gambling away your life savings on a poker game while drinking top shelf whiskey.
That’s what the tracker on his phone is for.
Oh man, we love YT TV.
Sunday Ticket has transformed my viewership of Vikings games. No longer am I tethered to a specific start time, I can get my chores done and then watch the game at my leisure.
Is it the cost that bothers you?
I like the service, especially the DVR part of it, but yeah it’s going up to $82/month in January. We only use it for NFL games and local channels really.
I will probably drop it after the Super Bowl.
I like the software/interface, and have two smart TVs that are google, so it would be annoying to change.
I am salty about the cost.
I am not getting the benefit of the stupid channels they keep adding to the basic service. But I am paying for it.
Was listening to NFL radio driving home from work. The hosts of the show were discussing how many teams are selling part ownership approx 10% (with no voting rights to new owners). Some are buying to eventually be evaluated as future majority owners, others are buying just as an investment. The host said returns on investment 30% year in year out. They said Wall Street is starting to strategize to get involved.
Also, I worry about letting Sam walk. Say we have a heartbreaking loss in NFCCG and we all say “next year is our year”. I think a new qb decreases our odds of continued success, unless of course KOC can take anyone at the position and turn them into a Pro Bowler. Are we set for sustained success or is this year lightening in a bottle?
Clearly in the current KOC defined offense we need two things – a future HOF WR that “changes the weather” for the opposing defense, and a RB that is durable, can block, can catch, and can run (ball control debatable). We lose either of those pieces and the offense turns into a clunker because of the offensive line weaknesses.
The Flores defense depends heavily on pressuring the QB and presnap shenanigans. If Flores leaves we won’t know until the new D coordinator gets a few games under his/her belt.
I didn’t realize Addison was a future HOF WR already.
I suppose he has the potential if he hired a full time driver.
Oh man, that lit up my doomer alert – DUI in the week leading up to the wild card round.
Understanding that it is the Vikings and anything bad can happen at any time (and probably will) is one thing.
Focusing on the different possibilities and stressing over them constantly does not seem conducive to good mental health.
Just think how good a SB win will be to my mental health. Doctor, can you prescribe a Lombardi?
Just think of all the ‘Doom Scenarios’ you could put yourself thru in the two week run up to the Owl.
Would you even be sane by game time??
The Vikings have three Tags that they could use if they feel ‘one more year’ with Sam. non-exclusive tag, exclusive tag and transition tag.
All have different Pro’s and Con’s so we could pick the best one for our situation.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39580128/what-nfl-franchise-tag-how-does-work
And Packer fans are proud of their ownership and they get none of this. What a bunch of losers.
Caleb is weird….
I find that weird.
i mean he didn’t, but it would be hilarious if he did
Yeah, it’s called a joke.
there are a lot of people on here that don’t know it is though….
Wonder if they coordinate nail color for those things.
Ok, I don’t really want to know that much about it.
That dude is different.
That this exists
This was a good read if you haven’t seen it.
Matthew Coller: Vikings rookie Dallas Turner is adjusting and listening
Good stuff, thanks for sharing.
All right KOC. Play this during the week before the Lions game.
that’s fine.
I’m starting to go over nightmare scenarios…IF GB wins @SEA, @MIN, vCHI…and we lose @SEA, vGB, @DET…we’ll finish with with identical records and they will get the top wild card spot given our losses to LA and SEA.
Seattle is looking like a huge game for seeding in the wild card standings. Their defense has been improving significantly and Geno is playing well enough to beat us.
Not to look past MNF. We struggle with mobile QBs.
What, your doom thinking? Shocker! 😘
I really want Seattle to win this week and lose next week.
And I think that’ll happen
Well currently, Seattle is the division winner, so wild card Seattle isn’t even on the table. And it doesn’t really look like a wild card will come out of the NFC west.
That divisional championship crap pisses me off, you can be up 4 games in a tough division and you have to travel. Change the rules!!
Yep, the Vikings could theoretically go 15-2 and have to go on the road to play a Tampa team with a losing record. Makes perfect sense.
You probably want the popular vote to win the election too.
It is annoying, but the teams in good divisions normally kill each other and it is rare for the NFC North to have 3 playoff teams.
I think the funniest stuff is when a team with a losing record gets into the playoffs.
My point is if we end up tied with GB at the end of the season at 12-5, that would mean GB beat Seattle and we did not. Common record LA and SEA losses would put GB ahead of us in WC standings I believe. Ergo we would play Detroit in the divisional round assuming we win WC round. I would prefer traveling to Philadelphia than Detroit.
Minnesota has not won in Seattle since 2006. GB has had their struggles, as well. If we both lose all will be well in the world.
Vikings clinch with a SF win tonight.
It doesn’t happen much that the Vikings are in the playoffs with 4 games yet to be played.
i’d like to see Seattle lose, the Rams lose, and the vikings win. So then we clinch 3 times!
Nah. Seattle needs to win, so theres potential for GB to be bummed from the play offs all together. Seattle isnt going to catch us.
well if you read my whole point, was to clinch the playoffs THREE TIMES…
i would never cheer for the packers, obvs
The flip to that is FTP being pissed enough to try and play whatever spoiler they can with us.
I finished 9th out of 12 in my fantasy FB league and missed the playoffs. I am such a loser.
Spending a 5th round pick on Richardson at QB didn’t turn out well for me.
I’m a loser in the Skoloholics league but a winner in my church league.
It’s all freaking luck.
“especially knowing the Vikings’ luck with drafting franchise QBs” They’ve attempted this what..4 times in 60 some years, over different regimes and management? That’s not a lot, as far as I’m concerned they haven’t attempted it enough to have luck or a history one way or the other. This notion and fear of rookie QBs needs to be done away.
i’d be more worried if KOC wasn’t our coach.
while Jmac MIGHT NOT have been their first choice, he/they saw enough in him to think he could be our next starting QB.
He has a high ceiling and we have a great qb coach. It’s a good mix.
Agreed, if it was still Rick and Zim at the helm and the franchise was burning Id share the sentiment but thats not the case. At all.
Warmed up here, it’s 3 above today.
We currently have no temperature here.
Wow.
I have never heard of any location ever reaching absolute zero.
Climate change is real.
Of course.
Absolute Zero -1.
Duh.
Gonna be cold here today, only 38 for a high. Back to 50 tomorrow though.
30s this weekend, t-shirt weather.
It is a balmy -12 degrees in the Magic City.
Good morning, SKOL!
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Happy Thorsday!
I feel like this is the most likely reason BB took a college job, he wanted to set his son up to take over somewhere, his can coach tough
!Pick ‘Em League Reminder!
Get your picks in before tonight’s game! I still have to do mine. Been super duper busy this week…
Is Super Duper Busy like the SuperModel of Duper Busy??
I’m just glad, you were able to find the time to do the write up on a week I excelled.
The same was said about Alex Smith when he led the Chiefs to an AFCCG. He was let go in favor of some guy named Mahomes.
Drive fast and take chances.
Chiefs didn’t make the AFCCG Smith’s last year. They lost in the wildcard to the Titans – Mariota threw a TD pass to himself in that game.
Been nothing less than AFCCG appearances since….
My bad everyone, for some reason I thought they made it to the AFCCG, Mordor is correct they made it to the playoffs, but lost in the first round. They went to the playoffs the last 3 years Smith was in KC.
Mahomes is probably the greatest pure talent at the QB position ever. If I had Mahomes sitting there, I’d dump Stafford, Goff, Staub, Love, you name it.
Everyone knows that now, at the time everyone knew he had a strong arm and made great plays in college. It was still a crazy thought to go from a QB that led your team to the AFCCG to a sophomore QB that has not played in an NFL game.
The Vikings wouldn’t be releasing darnold, he’d simply leave as a free agent, also, Smith was traded.
I get all of that, but they still moved on from a QB that got them to the AFCCG.
M’kay…….that’s one.
Name another.
Farve and Rogers.
Brady and Drew Bledsoe
Young and Montana
Lamar and Flacco (I know, I know, but he did win a Super Bowl)
No, no, no…..I said name “another” not 4.
You guys are seriously blowing holes in my case!!
Keenum and Cousins
Geno Smith over Wilson
Luck over Manning
GM
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SKOL!
Rick is still an unemployed idiot.
No on extending Sam, unless the team makes the Super Bowl OR he somehow takes a very team friendly deal. I leave that to KOC and Kwesi. Love how Sam is playing, and he is obviously much better than the Dork ever was.
Belichick is going to UNC because he is scouting for more 20 something girlfriends, and they have some young women there.
This is my Friday since I took tomorrow off.
Vikings are 11-2
…..not so sneakily checks out the jumbotron to see if he’s being watched while spying on the opposing team’s sideline calls…….
Some beauties in NC.
Happy Thorsday,
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I can see signing Darnold say for two years max, but not more than $25 million per year. I think overspending at the QB position has mostly proven to be a failure across the league.
KOC appears to be able to coach, so don’t overspend for a QB, IMO.
Depends on how the rest of the season shakes out.
I think JJ’s ceiling is higher than Darnold’s. I appreciate what Sam has done this year, but I’m confident KOC can get that and more from JJ.
How about JJ’s floor? Is his floor lower than Darnold?
No. Darnold has already shown he has a really low floor.
JJ has shown he can get hurt without ever playing a meaningful snap in the NFL…….that’s lower than playing but sucking in the NFL….
I trust that they’ll make the right decision.
It’s hard as a Vikings fan, having gone through hard times finding a quarternback. Now that we have a good one, it seems foolish to let him walk, even if we do think we have another good one waiting.
I am just trusting the team to make the right decision.
I know that I would even rather have Daniel Jones over Kirko.
No matter what they decide, the team is contending now, and can improve again next year.
Hopefully after letting Kirko walk, KOC and KAM will get the Vikings out of QB hell and take chances on young guns with cheaper contracts and spend moderately on veteran QBs.
Darnold’s agent needs to be taken out to the woodshed if he allows his client to accept that deal.
Exactly…he isn’t playing anywhere next year for less than 35.
I agree.
Which is why the Vikings need to let him walk.
No need to over pay a QB.
Its been proven that it’s best to NOT overpay a QB.
It’s the classic bird in the hand vs bird in the bush paradox.
I thought it was ‘one in the hand vs two in the bush’.
Is Daniel Jones the 3 QB in your scenario?
Correct.
You understand he is not under contract for ’25?
Although I suspect he would be more willing to stay around in order to be ‘fixed’.
Well, if someone wants to offer him a big starting QB contract then we can’t match that. I’m assuming he doesn’t even dress for a game the rest of the 2024 season.
I can see him replacing Rypien at some point this season/playoffs once he is familiar enough with the system.
NLNVF, is that you?
Kirko still sucks.
That sounds dirty.
I could see the Vikings tagging him for 2025.
Gives us a year to insure JJ is fully healthy and read in.
We could also trade him for picks once we figure he is excess to needs.
Not sure what the cost would be but we have a lot of cap space for ’25.
The Kumbya Club would want Sam on board for this I expect.
Not for $40 million+ plus on the exclusive tag.
Might be able to non exclusive tag for $30 million and see if Sam stays or goes on a better offer.
Given SkolfromMT’s scenario above where we lose the NFCCG in a heartbreaker, and the braintrust figures we are one year away and they are nervous about JJ, his knee, and his experience they may figure we have the cap space to absorb Sams hit for the higher tag.