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Vikings news
Kirk Cousins signs a 4 year 180 mil contract with ATL with 100 mil gtd
Edge Jonathan Greenard signs with the Vikings
LB Alex Van Ginkel signs with the Vikings
Former Gopher LB Blake Cashman signs with the Vikings, me upon reading that news:
Regarding KIrk Cousins
I applaud him for getting the contract he did, which was pretty much exactly what I’ve said he was going to get. He simultaneously got by far the best deal offered, went to a team with a better overall roster (particularly the interior oline where ATL has the best G in the nfl and an elite C), with close to as good of skill position players and a very good defense, he also went to a far inferior division, while also making his incredibly classy wife happier by moving his family to her hometown. Love or hate Kirk as a player, he has always presented himself as a good person, conducted himself with class, never blamed others for the team not performing, or made excuses when he didn’t perform well enough. I personally wish him nothing but success in ATL, especially on a personal level, except when they play the Vikings. I will miss how great a human being Kirk and his family were during his time here. We never had to worry about things like his creepy brother sexually assaulting women, his dad being a drunk arrested for multiple DUIs, his wife being a generally annoying weirdo, or any other obscure behavior. My favorite moment about Kirk was after the playoff loss he compartmentalized it, got home, and went full on dad mode to read books to his kids, that is a person of character who understand his values and most of all, prioritizes what is most important in life.
From the Vikings perspective, they did what they should have done. From a roster and cap perspective they let Kirk go sign a large contract elsewhere and spent that cap space on young talent, mostly on the defense. What they do at the QB position is the next question to answer, wrong, right, or somewhere in between, Cousins will no longer be the Vikings QB and we’ll see how KAM/KOC respond to that change. Some will be excited, some will be nervous, and some will be doomers, but either way, change is on its way..
QOTD
Now that Kirk has moved on, what do the Vikings do as far as what makes sense? IMO, if they go bridge QB, Jimmy G makes the most sense by far, he worked with KAM in SF, and ran a KOC offense in SF during that time. I also would think the KAM/KOC combo will be drafting one of the top 4 QBs, especially after spending the cap space available to shore up the defense.
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According to Adam Schefter, Justin Jefferson turned down a Vikings’ $30 million-plus offer last offseason. I think Bosa has the biggest non-QB contract in the league at the moment, totaling $34M a year. I think JJ wants more than that. He’s on his 5th year option, and will make $19.7M this year.
I like the guy, but trade him.
Turning into a diva, and overpaying anyone is so bad.
Vikings will keep him since he is the “face of the franchise” now.
Well, we’ll see what happens with the team this year. The new regime is taking shape. Either JJ “buys in” and decides to stay, or opts out and moves on. With Darnold or a rookie throwing him the ball, he may decide to be a free agent next year.
He would be tagged in 2025.
He could refuse to play, which would be a bad look for him.
Right, he cannot refuse the franchise tag… but he could do some other things like:
Holding out: Refuse to sign the franchise tag, skipping team activities or games until a better agreement is reached.
Requesting a trade: Expressing a desire to be traded to a team that may be willing to meet contract demands.
Using the tag as leverage: Showcasing skills during play to demonstrate value and leverage for negotiating terms (Cousins method).
Seeking arbitration: Utilizing third-party mediation to resolve contract disputes and reach a fair agreement.
Trump clinches GOP nomination with primary victories in Georgia, Mississippi, and Washington.
No matter what the Dem’s do, they can’t destroy this guy.
Remember JFK?
Wouldn’t put it past them
Oh. It’s part of the plan. Question is, will they take the risk to follow through on it?
I still say Trump will be arrested and thrown in Jail live on CNN at some point.
KC career earnings
330 million
Playoff record 1-4
Brady 332.2 mil
Playoff record 35-13, 7 SB
Does not count current contract of KC.
Cousins – Washington Redskins, Vikings
Brady – Patriots Dynasty team
Cousins restructured his deal too.
I don’t want to look through nearly 700 comments, so what is the consensus on Darnold? I’m assuming we are not impressed.
He cost $10M to do the same things Mullins does for $2M.
But he was Roomies with the new QB Coach so he has that going for him.
Well now… THAT is a story!
Can’t wait for the cackles, Rodgers, whoever Trump picks debate. Please let this happen
This would get tons of media coverage, but the liberals would go on a character assassination attack on Rodgers.
But he is one of them.
Thought Rodgers was a Conservative.
He’s a loony douchebag.
Like the rest of the woke.
He is loony, but I think he is a conservative.
You/he must have different definitions of ‘conservative’ than I do.
I have never heard or seen him display anything resembling conservative values.
Granted I have done my level best to ignore him and all that he does.
Do you think I’m not a conservative?
Take him over cackles but there’s a long list.
Sniffer and cackles will avoid debate for fear of looking stupid, which they are.
Well RFK Jr just lost my vote.
@TomPelissero
Four-time Pro Bowl DE Danielle Hunter is signing with the #Texans, sources tell me and @RapSheet
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Well, we got the Texans edge guy, and they got Danielle. Fair trade.
More: https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/ex-vikings-star-pass-rusher-danielle-hunter-signing-houston-texans
Hunter was an impact player and will be missed. If the Vikings release the Hitman (I believe they will) pretty much the whole “old guard” team will have been turned over.
Just wish I had more confidence in their draft/develop capability.
“We are moving forward with plans that allow us to continue building a roster that can compete for a championship.”
– Vikings General Manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah
Wow. 2 years – $49 million – 48 guaranteed.
Texans going all in since they got their franchise QB still on rookie deal.
Yep
JJ wants Fields.
Do tell?
Just read on web, must be true.
A very very minority position on drafting. was thinking about Bow’s comment get it wrong and you’re gone. Get it right etc.
I’m a big believer in Buffett – namely, I buy when others are selling and I sell when others are buying.
And based s0me on years in business, also believe in ‘not yielding to current pressure’.
For example, I take risk when I ‘want’ to, not when I ‘have’ to.
Football wise – I would have expended Kirk “last year” AND done what I needed to do to draft QBOTF.
But, that’s water under…… But also, don’t need to yield to pressure right now. Several have indicated we aren’t going to do much this year – maybe last in division.
So, I have between now and the start of the 25 season to find the right QB. And there will be a host of options over this period.
So, would not give farm away to trade up right now but rather trying to maximize what I can get for total team talent right now. Od course, if the right QB falls to me, I’ll take it.
Just a different thought on handling risk.
Practical, prudent, and pragmatic.
Actually it’s the only way to run a business and survive.
This is not a long term business though. This is a results business. Win or lose the owners will make their money. GMs need to be successful quick or they’re gone.
Every business is a short term and a long term business. And in fact most of the very poorly run ones are too short term orientated.
And again, every business is results orientated or they don’t survive.
Tell this to the Patriots who went on a 20 year run of dominance… it’s just a short term business. Nope, it’s a business that has been running since it was founded in 1920 in Canton, Ohio. Short term of 104 years.
Wanna rank the QB’s in the NFCS now?
Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr
Bryce Young
Kirk Cousins
Baker
Carr
Kirk
Young
Young
Carr
Mayfield
Cousins
You’re crazy – you’ll never get a serious answer to this here.
Crazy like a fox… grin. Just tossing things out for good fun.
Who cares?
Im a Viking fan.
I hope all of those crash and burn.
Kirk
Carr
Mayfield
Young
Tend to agree with this assessment.
Kirko Chainz (ATL should be the Hard Knocks team this year also)
Carr
Baker
Young.
Young could become ok, I just do not see it.
Since I live in the Tampa area, I guess I have to pull for Baker????
I predict Nix, Ponder 2.0
I think Ponder is best case scenario.
correct, pass
So right now, how would you order these NFCN QB’s?
Goff
Fields/Williams
Love
Darnold
Darnold
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Goff/Fields/Williams/Love
Seems right as is.
Watch out for Love – great coach,scheme organization and talent around him.
Goff is the best QB in the NFCN today. Love is probably second, Fields/Williams third, and Darnold last.
Remains to be seen who else the Vikings bring in via the draft or trade.
Goff
Williams
Love
Darnold
My guess we are moving up to #5 to pick whichever of the top 4 QBs is still available.
How much will it cost to move from #11 to #5? I am going with this years #11 and our 1st rounder next year.
I would be very okay if thats how it plays out.
Yep. I just realized that today was the Oregon pro day. It didn’t dawn on me when I typed the dates earlier. O’Connell there?
I believe someone from the Vikings is present, not sure if its KOC
Might have 4 QB’s off the board, very vague.
Nah, someone is going to take the stud WR.
I’d want a high pick or picks also.
If Belichek was still in NE I wouldn’t expect them to pick a QB but who knows about the new crew. I don’t think Arizona can afford to trade out and not take Harrison if he’s there (Kwesi should be on the phone and see if they are open to a trade. If so push hard, if they just say nope not interested, you know where they stand). Unless they like Howell, I don’t see the Commies skipping at QB. Bears could be a wild card. They could take Harrison thinking they will get one of the top 4 with their second pick if they are not sold on Williams.
Purple resign Powell, kind of like him.
Me too. Solid player who made some nice catches last year.
Same, I think he played harder than KJ and was more reliable and also returns Kicks. KJ gone.
KJ get a new deal anywhere yet?
No but im predicting the Vikings will let him go his own way.
He can catch punts, sold.
As long as they don’t use him for the tush push.
That was laughable. He’s like 185 pounds trying to push 300lb+ of humanity.
That was dumb.
He can catch a punt, sign him
Atlanta is in discussions with the Vikings to trade the #8 pick for Justin Jefferson.
Shove it Atlanta.
Lol fuck that noise
hmmm….well we don’t really have anyone to throw him the ball, not sure we are going to get someone, we are going to suck for at least a year…
I am not so sure this is a bad option.
Give us 2 ones, Bijan and a defender I will choose later (because I don’t know anybody on their team) and I’ll think about it.
Their Center
We need to be able to move up more than 8th to get a QB and JJ is worth a further move up than 3 spots. Tell Atlanta to shove it. Already having buyers remorse with Kirk they want our first now too?
Edit, they just want JJ, not our 11th and JJ. Still tho. Dumb
KFEY we are not trading JJ to move up 3 spots, we would be trading him for an entire new 1st round pick. So then we would have the 11 and the 8.
I saw and added a correction to my comment, thank you. Still, Fuck you Atlanta. We’re done doing business this off season. Thank you, come again.
Take a lot more capital than that if true. If true Atlanta can’t be that ignorant.
I still dont like it. Id rather try and move future picks and our 11 to move up than get rid of JJ.
What if it’s for the 8th pick? We would have 8 and11.
So we would have the 8th and 11th pick?
Have to consider it at least.
Please post your source, im not seeing this being reported by anyone legit at the moment
Nope
Laughing… I was just kidding…
Trying to get our comment count up a bit?
That hasn’t been needed the last couple of days.
Nah… more interested in blood pressure counts…
You monster!
Yeah… been called worse… grin. Got people going though.
We’re all high strung right now dont do that to my heart lol
OK, I promise… no more false news…
But I like it…I don’t think Atlanta would do it though….
Bannable!
Yep… incarcerate me!
Ben. NVF is being a richard.
LOL
Yeah, me too, I would trade JJ for Burrow.
Burrow is overrated and fragile, IMO.
Just talked with two Bengal fans last weekend an d they were noting his many injuries on onfield presence.
gonna need a lot more than than
Man, I caught some big fish on that line…
I would suggest we continue to strictly enforce the “No Kirk Discussions except on Tuesdays” rule.
Perhaps we could suspend that rule during the week that the Vikes play the Falcons and the following Monday.
Here here
You seem to think people are going to follow some arbitrary comment rule made up by some posters… here’s a hint. It won’t happen.
Yes, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.
People are going to murder each other as well, but we should still have rules saying people shouldn’t murder each other….might stop some murders.
OK, you’re comparing murder to comments on a blog…
And your problem is???
Just saying that rules do help curb behavior….even if not perfectly.
Only for people who follow the rules… it’s the internet. There are no rules.
BenDumDum says he is giving me use of the BanHammer due to my overall intelligence and good looks.
Then the rules will be followed!
Laughing… I see… looks like I’m a goner….
At least I wasn’t comparing playing a football game to going to war….
We here do not believe in censorship, discuss what you prefer.
This website is super resource intensive. My RAM usage with Chrome goes up 6% when I load the daily thread. 6% of 16GB is almost a full 1GB of Ram needed to run ONE webpage, not optimized well. But..it is FREE, and you should never have issues with anything free. Nope cant be improved upon.
KC up on top as worst FA signing this year. Think owner wants it now.
So he was the top QB on the market, and the #2 overall free agent according to every list. He was brought in at a lesser cost than many existing NFL QB contracts, and immediately upgrades the Atlanta offense. Now it’s the worst free agent signing? Pundits are doing themselves an injustice. They proclaim he’s an outstanding player and top shelf acquisition as a free agent for months, then say he was a terrible deal.
think 16 qb’s are in 40 mil a year gig. Guaranteed is another story. I find it bothersome with the cap that positional players are destroying it.
Why? The teams drive this. They are the ones who set the pricing models for positional contracts.
I know, i get it. Teams are less competitive, like pre-cap.
Just because…
ESPN says Hunter wants 30 mil a year. Good luck dude.
Bargaining position, aim high.
OK… he’s officially out of his damn mind.
Age, injuries. Like to have him but that’s delusional.
Yup, good move to let him go also. The dude could be a beast at times, but just not consistent enough to demand that kind of money
Want in one hand, shit in the other
I’ve discovered in the world of the skilled trades that plumbers are the prima donnas of the bunch. Long story short our plumber and his crew were out to do the finish plumbing two Fridays ago, they didn’t set the bathtub as the trim behind the bathtub was not yet done. They had forgotten to order a recirculating hot water pump so said they would be back in three days to install that and set the bathtub. Total ghost since then, main guy called today, had no excuses and my wife did a little vent, told him he needed to get out there and get the job done, her husband (me) had shimmed a toilet that they hadn’t leveled and tightened all the slop P-traps that were leaking which was nice of him…and the guy fired us. What a Richard!
In the realm of you get what you pay for, today I really miss a “z” key.
So wife vented about sloppy work and he fired you?
Hope you haven’t paid him for everything yet. Doesn’t sound like he has completed the original contract since ‘they had forgotten to order a recirculating hot water pump so said they would be back in three days to install that and set the bathtub’.
Alas they have already been paid for rough in plumbing, $17 large for the sewer side and $16 large for the supply side. This is the finish work, including the fixtures. We supplied the sinks, bathtub, toilets, and showers were a separate dude.
Gouger problems
Yeah, believe me, I’d like to point out to him how weak his stance is, if I got butt hurt every time someone said mean words to me half the town would be sol when it came time to get diagnostic imaging…to say nothing of why he would get soft for being criticized for not showing up when he said he would.
I think they make a pill for that these days
What’s a Richard?
Oh, i’m a bit slow. LOL
I’m even slower – still don’t get it.
Many guys with the name Richard shorten their name to _ _ _ _ .
Rick
I know one that goes by Eric.
I know a guy named Richard that never goes by Dick and in his younger years would punch people who called him Dick.
Of course I have mellowed over the years….
I saw a story the other day about Dustin Johnson being approached by a hottie at a golf tournament. She introduced herself. Then introduced himself and said, “I’m Dustin but you can call me Dick.” She then asked, “how do you get Dick from Dustin?”
LOL!
That’s too funny!!!
Don’t get Darnold signing at all. Inclined to play Mullens. Sure they are thinking hard on qb in first. Other teams may move up. Need more interior help on D and O lines.
McClown is the only reason that makes sense.
He must think he can do something with him.
Since they are former roomies and all.
Just don’t get it. Yes, we don’t know how structured.
Tank
Didnt realize modern tank rounds had stabilizers. Or I did and have since forgotten. Either way, camera man ded.
Yeah, I feel the same.
I just read a tweet that said every Leap Year should be a holiday, and it has changed my worldview…
Like, yeah…it comes around every four years, and we just treat it like a regular work day? THIS IS NOT RIGHT!
Especially when you’re salary. Just an extra day for nothing.
Now if you said we could eliminate switching away from daylight saving time I’d be right there with you. Nothing worse than working a night shift on the switch back to standard time, extra hour for nothing plus time stamps on orders and notes get all fouled up.
Why not both? I think Rubio should slip term limits in his daylight savings bill.
When did Ricky get elected to congress?
Unless it falls on the weekend then you get an extra day off…
So who’s winning in this instance… are you getting an extra day of pay that year or is your job getting an extra day of labor? Make sure to take an absolute side on this. There is no middle ground!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t get me started on the year I worked an extra week for no additional pay.
Really cut into that fancy shop expenditure im sure.
I am not even thinking in terms of pay. It should be a holiday. There should be cards, balloons, perhaps even present giving…
Everybody plays leap frog?
My nephew does…2/29 is his birth date. 😁
Man that must suck only having a birthday once every 4 years
Life expectancy 280 years however.
Beat me to it, chief.
LOL, that’s also true
More like 20.
Depends on your situation. Salary employee is just working an extra day. Hourly employees get extra hours. That extra day is going to inflate the 1st quarter GDP as well.
As a member CEO and longtime member of the management team (i.e. ‘the oppressors’) I can say we have been somewhat surprised the downtrodden working folk haven’t figured this out earlier.
I wouldn’t be surprised if falcons drafted a top wide out at 8. Many predicting edge rusher now that they have Kirk
Some TEs ranked high in the draft.
So maybe a ‘QBs Best Friend’?
Already got one in Pitts. I think he’ll have a good year if Kirk stays healthy all season
Pitts is a slightly better Irv at this point. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Pitts rookie year was better than irvs entire career
Yeah, a bit of hyperbole, but he definitely hasn’t been a top 10 pick worthy.
I would agree with that, he’s been pretty good but not worth his draft slot, ATL hasn’t exactly had great QB play either though.
Their coach was also an idiot. Have Pitts and Bijan block at the goal line so you can throw to the TE3.
He has a mustache though
I don’t think Marvin will be there at 8, but maybe the next one will be. You just gave Kirk a pile of money so why not give him another weapon
Ha!
Just started a Mock at https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft and they had Atlanta taking TE Brock Bowers from GA at #8.
Falcons have a pretty good TE. Personally, if I were them, I would go defensive stud.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the falcons traded out of #8 to the Vikings so they could draft a QB
I would be for this.
Move up a bit to increase our chances of getting JJ.
Don’t think it would be that expensive.
Gotta go higher unless the top picks aren’t QBs. Don’t just increase your chances. Make sure you get him no matter what.
I assume that they wait, see how the picks are going and then spring into action when they feel that they need to.
If JJ is the last of the 4 at 8 they should go for it.
If the first 3 go top 5 they may want to go higher.
I’m in Bow’s corner. Need to make sure we get our guy, not take last second leftovers.
Moving up right away gives us more potential trade partners – waiting until the last second gives us only 1, who may have 10 other offers.
Know what waiting makes you? Right. A waiter.
I knew a girl in college we called leftovers, I’ll let everyone guess as to why
She was a good cook?
If she was a good cook there wouldn’t be any leftovers…..
You can always lick the jar.
Is that some new sex jargon of some sort?
Not sure, she always left before breakfast
It’d probably cost a minimum of 11 and a 3rd rounder, which the Vikings don’t have, so likely next years 2nd rounder and 11, which wouldn’t be terrible.
Done. What’s the cost to move to 5? I don’t know much about draft trade values. Maybe Kwesi can convince somebody to use the chart he used to trade down instead of drafting Hamilton.
using the updated draft value chart it would take at least next years first and probably a bit more to get up to Karenfingers
You guys obviously know this, but this seems risky as hell. Just picking a QB in the first round is pretty rough. But then giving up picks, ala Fields and Trey, seems to be almost like doubling down – especially with a roster full of holes.
Bears may keep Fields, wait for a team to lose their qb early. Read awhile back they wanted a 2nd and 4th for him. Stupid season.
As Brandon Bean said, if he doesn’t work out you’re gone and if he does, nobody is going to care about the picks. That’s the attitude Kwesi needs to have for the next 6 weeks. Or as I think the Rams GM said, “F them picks.”
And as I would say, be practical, pragmatic, and prudent when building your team.
You have a chance to get somebody who could set your team up for the next 15-20 years. Aim big. Could it fail? Yep, and you’ll likely be fired. If you don’t make the move though you’re basically done as well so might as well go out swinging and take the chance to be the guy that brought a championship to Minnesota. If your guy is there, get him and worry about the rest later and look forward to resetting the QB market in 4 years.
You have a chance… for someone who could…
That’s what the Redskins did with RGIII and it killed the franchise for years in the draft and their team building efforts.
There is no such thing as a sure thing. Take what the market gives you, and be prudent about your player selection. Build a TEAM and don’t act like one guy changes everything. One guy is just one guy.
One guy does change everything though. Mahomes, Burrow, Allen to name some of the recent ones.
And, one guy that is vastly overpaid changes everything for that team.
@thanks Kirk@
No… Mahomes without a great O-line and Kelce isn’t changing anything. 9 points in the Super Bowl without a good line.
Their team wasn’t that great this year. Mahomes is a difference maker. Tell yourself whatever you want, but they don’t call it the most important position in professional sports for nothing.
Mahomes is a great player, but he has a great team, and a great coach, around him. One guy doesn’t win games, or change a team.
There was nothing great about the Chefs this year other than Mahomes. Their defense was very good but there’s only 2 or 3 guys in the league that even sniff the SB with the 2023 team.
Oh really? Well you should say that to Kelce, their O-line, their defensive front, and their running back who were all great this year.
Mahomes is the greatest and most talented QB to ever play. As such, any comparison to him WRT other teams is irrelevant.
And he still can’t win games without a great TE, a great O-line, a strong running game, and a solid defense.
easier to fill those other holes than it is to find a franchise QB
Cousins to Mooney > Cousins to Adison/KJ? Nahhhhh
Who is Mooney?
Darnell. Falcons signed him. They do have Drake London though.
Falcons have some decent skill position talent, and Cousins will have good protection in front of him, for the first time since 2016. I’m confident he’ll hit those guys. They have a very good RB too. Thus the Falcons offense should be pretty darned good. The only question mark is they have a rookie OC this year. Cousins’ experience/knowledge will help them considerably with that though. He knows what works, and what doesn’t in the NFL.
Am inclined to agree with this….but I have been wrong before.
I expect the Falcons to be much better next year, a good playoff team.
They are loaded offensively but like you said have a rookie OC and a defensive HC, if their plan was to bring in Cousins all along they should have hired BB.
Interesting to me, they didn’t bring in BB actually. Totally agree he was the right choice. BB is a defensive coach too though. The Patriots had a dominant defense for 20 years under BB.
They likely wanted a separate GM to build for the future and didn’t want to give BB roster control. Or they’ve had a target on Cousins and already knew that Bill would never go for it.
I think you’re right about separating the GM and head coach. Theoretical on whether BB would not go for Cousins. No evidence that BB has a low opinion of him.
Just a possibility is all. There could have been rumors and I’m sure Bill has made comments at the league meetings where the owner may have known. That is also assuming that the owner zeroed in on Kirk months ago.
Don’t know much about Atlanta, but would worry some about BB. He’s a great coach, but so was Laundry and Knoll at the end.
These new guys down in Atlanta remind me some of KOC and Phillips – will run same offense.
IMO BB the GM is why BB the HC isn’t employed
Do think his ‘style’ was acceptable when wining SB’s. Much less so when not.
BB teams typically had good to great defenses, mostly efficient offenses, but always elite special teams
Oh I see, London is much better than Mooney, who in Atlanta will probably be the 4th option with Pitts and Robinson there as well
What Manly said
Mooney is meh, London way better
He’s going to learn from Kelce and REALLY break out this time, I promise.
Irv the swerve in SWERVING IRV! Because he just swerves from one team to the next!
Soooooooo
Which rookie QB do we like the most?
Hawt
I gotta get something off my chest, I find certain things about her very attractive
Yeah, I can’t quite put a finger on it but there’s somethings that stand out.
Any of the top 4
The one we draft
Is that how you felt about Ponder?
I wasn’t quite 18 years old when we drafted Ponder, so I really wasnt following ball that in depth so I had no opinion, was just riding the AD/AP hype train. That being said, everyone who was involved with the ponder pick out side of ownership is gone, so Ponder is nothing but a memory and holds no weight over the present and future. I feel thats the appropriate way to go.
Rick should have been fired along with Frazier after that debacle, Ponder was a horrible pick, though much like Kirk seems a genuinely great person. His wife is also an absolute smoke show, like seriously, she’s hotter than Tom Brady’s exes, plus she wanted to get married at a court house and have dinner at Arby’s after, what a lucky dude.
Oh yeah my pants have been getting short for Sam Ponder for at least a decade.
None – Mike Zimmer
Lol
“I see him everyday in practice”
My favorite Zim moment…
Probably mine too, I don’t know why they kept asking and asking about it, but he finally just shot them straight about Mond.
Mond was a strange pick to me, but RGIII was all over it. He said “I can tell you right now #8 probably isn’t real happy right now. Kellen Mond represents everything he doesn’t do well”.
I doubt Kirk cared at all about the pick, so long as Kirk kept playing at the same level it would be a waste even if Mond weren’t horrible, which he is, and LOL, after the pick I went immediately and watched a bunch of Mond games from his senior year and he represented everything an NFL QB isn’t, RGIII sucks jut as much as an analyst as he did as a QB.
Yep, sums it up nicely.
And you know all the love RGlll had for Cousins.
Yeah, when you’re the #2 overall pick, and the 4th rounder replaces you, well… let’s just say, you aren’t in his corner.
Much pricier than Adams.
Better? Less versatile?
Unknown since me mostly clueless.
Too fat.
LOL, ok Five
add this to the music sections please.
Wow, that is amazing.
Can’t get by the habit of lurking, maybe I just don’t have much (clever) to say. None the less I am like a teen ager that doesn’t want to delay gratification with the Vikes. Letting Kirk walk was the correct thing to do, but not sure we will have meaningful games in November for a year or 2. That’s a bummer. But I am being forced to delay gratification.
Anyhow I too liked Ben’s above. Kirk was easy to root for, he was also easy to curse at times.
Perfect comment here
I can live with a year of meh, knowing the team is working towards (and will become) relevant again.
This is the way
I know 24 will be a down year, but if we don’t show signs of improvement by mid 25, I may give up on the NFL altogether. In my early years as a Vikings fan, when they had a bad season or two, the NFL was exciting enough to keep me interested. Now if teh Vikings have 2-3 bad seasons, I will be done.
I’m not trying to denigrate Kirk here, but the Vikings have been meh 4 out of the last 6 years so its not exactly going to be significantly different.
This is the truth.
Yet if you point it out you are called bad things.
Well everything BUT the passing offense has been meh with the Vikings. So you’re not denigrating Cousins. The running game, O-line, defense, and kicking game have been terrible. The one aspect of the team Cousins was responsible for was very good.
Give it up.
Kirk is gone.
Just keeping it real DE. You obviously can’t handle the truth.
It’s just time to move on. Kirk was here. He was good. The Vikings didn’t win anything of significance when he was here. Time to look to the future.
Well Bow, I think Cousins will be a discussion point on this blog for a long time to come. Just what I think.
Easy prediction to make since you’ll likely bring him up every chance you get and paste his stats every Monday.
No… I have no interest in doing anything of the sort. All that will be quite publicly known and presented by the media.
Screen shot these comments for when the season starts bow. After first Falcons game, bet money there will be Kirk stats posted.
I’ll take that bet
And do you suppose if he plays like crap, some folks here will bring that up?
Only in response. I for one will be too worried about the Vikings.
Perhaps you – but the haters just can’t help themselves and you can count on that. .
Probably.
I will not be paying much attention to Kirk outside of the Vikings game
When we play them? They have a Monday nighter. I liked kirko but not wishing him success, if that makes sense.
Yeah, I’ll probably look at how he’s playing going into that game
Your not a hater.
Just because Kirk is gone, doesn’t change the facts.
And what NLNV said was true.
Its not true though. He’s had top defenses, top half run games and top offensive weapons for at least half of his time on the Vikes, and he didnt get it done. Thats a fact.
Facts can be deceiving. For example, we had good defenses for a couple of years, and then some crappy ones for many others. We have run the ball well, and last year sucked and for years couldn’t convert a 3rd and 1 to save our ass.
But Kirk is gone and there is little need for twisting around facts.
Agreed, so dont let NLNV twist them just because you two get along. Both things are true. He’s had good run games, defenses and weapons all at the same time. And there’s years he hasnt. He hasnt gotten it done in either case. But agreed, done, gone. Ill drop it.
We do get along. And it appears you and I do on baseball and fine whiskey. And we would more so on football if you stopped attacking me personally just because I happen to say something positive that ends up making Cousins looks good (even if true). My agenda is rather simple – winning football.
Yeah, either way, things haven’t worked out and now we’re onto 2024 w/o Kirk.
Well the Vikings now have to fix everything that sucked, PLUS the passing game. So, tall order ahead of them.
This. On their list of problems, he was last or near last.
The FA signings have gone a long ways to fixing that. The interior oline still sucks but is the last glaring weakness outside of the massive question of who will be QB.
CB? Because Akayleb Evans should have been cut by week 5 last year.
Agreed. Some people here don’t want to live in reality. He was one of, if not the singular (passing game), best aspects of the team. Only reason we won 13 games 2 seasons ago with a historically terrible defense. Might have had his best season last year if not injured. It is okay for people to want to move on while also admitting he was very good here, but people can’t see past their hate of him (Kirk derangement syndrome, or KDS).
I liked him, he made big time throws and got smoked alot. That Falcon contract tho, how you match that?
This is true, the Vikings couldn’t ever have matched Atlanta’s offer. The problem is, Cousins offered them a below market deal last June that they could have afforded, and KAM rejected it.
So we can call him the big cigar?
I’ll pay attention. Watch player stats. Maybe catch a couple games. NFCS, they prob get it done.
I’m not saying we should have kept him or that his salary is justified. Just annoyed with the blind hate.
For me 2018-2023 was the worst watching I have ever experienced with the Vikings, mostly because they continually hovered in that lukewarm region of meaninglessness.
Even the Les Steckel year was more fun to watch because I was just a wee, wee lad and could be amazed by something like Jan Stenrud hitting a 53-yard field goal to win a game.
I could even stand the Ponder/Frazier years more than 2018-2023. A large part is because I really got tired of Zimmer.
The 13-win season was kind of fun, but it was always apparent we were flawed and were going to get killed by San Fran.
Low and behold, we got killed by the Giants.
Ridiculous!
Zim was great when they were winning, like a grouchy old coot that has moments of humor and happiness that make you think he’s a softy under that rough exterior. After Teddy’s knee exploded it seemed he changed and was just mean and nasty, just a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling. I do like KOC but am lukewarm at best with KAM, either way things they are a changing with this team and I’m choosing to be optimistic.
Yep, I am super ready for the change.
I thought about it some more, and think the reason I hated this era so much is we have lacked personality. Just a completely bland team from top to bottom.
Like, who are the names?
Hunter? The guy who whines about his contract every year and disappears at the end of the season?
Cook? The guy who disappeared at the end of every season?
Cousins? I honestly do like Cousins, but he’s not really must-see TV.
Hitman is cool, but it is hard to get excited about safety play.
JJ is too late to the party.
Just super, duper bland for so long now. We need a shot of spirit into this team, big-time. We got no fire.
I agree with this, also, if Harry promoted himself more, he’d have made more all pros and be recognized by people in general as a truly generational player, like think about Polomalu and his hair commercials, if Harry were more extroverted just think about the ads they could do together with that hair!
Agree with that.
Also, I am expecting meaningful January games after 2024. This year I think the Lions are kings of the north. again
But I am a bit crazy
I wouldnt be surprised if we come in last, and its no biggy if we do. I think Bears will be underrated and around .500. GB and obvs Det are above us. But I also think we will have between 7-9 wins. One of those over Atlanta, and it will be glorious.
I wouldn’t be surprised if 2nd half of the season Love was a fluke and they still end up wallowing in mediocrity.
Fingers crossed
Oh dont worry I would love for that to happen, it does worry me how well he played down the stretch, when he makes plays…its eerily similar to younger Rodgers and my sanity couldn’t take that for another decade.
Funny how he finally looked competent when a certain RB made it back on the field.
…schwing
I want this too.
Must admit though he made several throws in the 2nd half of the season last year that were impressive. A few against Minnesota.
I’m hoping he’s hit his ceiling (but I don’t think he has)
The underlying data, particularly EPA per play while not under pressure, points to his success late last year as a fluke. In short, Love wasn’t playing better or different…he was just connecting on lower probability plays more often later in the year. That’ll even out. Example: the INT that ended his season was the type of play he’d been getting away with.
That being said…he might make judgement improvements and stop unnecessarily throwing off his back foot. (But I doubt it.)
That is the type of level headed Packer destruction I like to see.
Appreciate the data, my eyeballs tell me that Love will make some really great throws, then throw 5 yards high on simple ones.
He can stay like that
Interesting… you predicted 7 or so wins this year, but you are MORE confident next year with our roster now, not even knowing who we get in the draft? I wish I could be that optimistic with all the holes on this team.
This team has gotten 7 wins with shittier rosters and rarely gets less than 6 wins, even on bad years. History is on my side. Im not MORE confident, im just feeling it’ll be 7 ish wins, no first place schedule like this year. Kirks a free W. Split with Bores, only got 5 more to go.
But 7-9 wins over the “guaranteed” 7 or less that you said (with Kirk healthy btw) last year seems more confident. Rookie QB or Darnold. But I get what you’re saying – maybe defense gets you a couple wins, maybe your offense has some good weeks, maybe you play a few bad teams. But your Kirk hate is unjustified and not hinged with reality IMO. I bet he beats the Vikings this year.
One can only hope the Vikings return to prominence soon.
By the end of last season I was developing a moderate to moderately high dislike of the lions. I really hope FTP doesn’t get really good again. I too think Lions are kings of north for ’24.
I mean, you could make the argument the Vikings were playing meaningful games in December this year as they were still “in the playoff hunt”, despite not really being a viable contender
Ben, great commentary on Kirk Cousins above. I applaud your very accurate capture of his time here, and Cousins as a person. Loved the dad comment after the playoff loss to the Giants. So insightful. Also remember the comment from Julie as they pulled into the driveway “Oh I forgot, it’s trash night”. The real world inevitably continues to turn.
I am a Vikings fan, and have been since the 60’s. Yes the Redskins were my “home team” for many years, but the Vikings have always been a favorite team. I follow the Ravens too, since I lived just outside of Baltimore for 13 years. Thus, I’m an equal opportunity fan, if you will.
Yes, you and I disagree on things, but we aren’t disagreeable. More folks on the site could learn a thing or two from us.
I intend to continue posting here and of course, correcting the false narratives. Grin.
Thank you.
You have way more patience with 5 Jr than I do.
Thanks SoCal… I do my best. Grin.
Nice of you to post – and keep posting.
I refuse to kneel to the alter of the ABC stature and as such am a ‘second rate’ Vikings fan. And not into the hate stuff either.
But good for you.
JR, you are a breath of fresh air, and a fine person. You bring quality perspectives to the site. Don’t worry about our bet… that was all in fun. I hope Cousins does well in Atlanta, and I expect he will. The Vikings are on to Darnold, whose stats are deplorable, and he’s never actually been very good under center in the NFL. I hope somehow, some way, though KOC can get some good performance out of him.
Got our work cut out for us…
Darnold = $10M wasted cap space, $8M if Mullins is cut as a result of the signing.
I would think it would be on McClown to ‘get some good performance out of him’ since he brought ‘his buddy’ in.
Time will tell. Darnold just never set well with me for some reason, much like Wentz.
I can find no stat in which Darnold is better than Mullins.
Other than he is buddies with the QB coach if that is a stat.
AGree.
I doubt much of Darnolds salary is guaranteed.
Might just be an offseason move for competition and cut before the 53 MAN roster is finalized.
Valid point. Insurance policy to see if the rookie is actually ready and in the horrible situation where you don’t get one.
Mullens has no guaranteed salary either.
And a cap savings of $1.8 if cut after June 1.
I’d lean toward camp bodies and as an insurance policy. One of them stays and the other is likely gone.
If that’s the situation Darnold at 10 is infinitely worse than Mullens at 1.8
Like I said, we don’t know what the $10 million is. How much is G, incentives etc….
Maybe it’s just to get a rise and competition out of Mullens.
Yeah, I’m curious to see the gtd details.
I can only hope. Because if people think Cousins sucks, well, just look at Darnold.
Kirk doesn’t suck, Darnold certainly does.
The only stats where he is better is he is younger and where he was drafted.
Same. Just don’t think he’s very good. As others suggested below, maybe mostly camp body.
Both bad starters, ok backups.
Thanks for the reminder of that comment by Julie. Put things in perspective for me, even though I make 1/1000th of a starting NFL QB salary, he and I are still hauling trash out to the curb on trash night.
I just thought it was such a perfect take. You’ve just lost a big game, you’re at your lowest of lows, and “it’s trash night”.
Yep, regardless of your work situation you are still a husband and father and those responsibilities outweigh everything else.
Lost in the Kirko drama yesterday was the addition of Blake Cashman and Andrew Van Ginkel.
I like both of these fits.
Cashman is a sideline to sideline tackling machine with great speed (4.5)
Van Ginkel also has great speed (4.58) and size – and he’s nicknamed Thor.
I don’t hate the Greenard signing – but I think we could’ve gotten Chase Young for cheaper. Maybe they still will.
Chase Young is overrated because of where he was drafted, they were actually drafted the same year and Greenard is a better player based on actual on field results despite being drafted 90th overall as opposed to 2nd overall.
Greenard – 120 tackles, 32 TFLs, 23 sacks, 1 INT, 32 games started
Young – 100 tackles, 20 TFLs, 16.5 sacks, 0 INT, 32 games started
They’ve started the exact same amount of games and Greenard is more productive by a fair margin in every meaningful measurable. Young is younger though.
Didn’t know anything about Greenard,
Thank you for the knowledge.
Greenard played for Louisville before transferring to FL his last year. He was a terrific defensive leader and when healthy, very good. Has some injury history.
I was also familiar with Van Ginkel, who is a good signing I think. I didn’t know Cashman.
ALLOW ME TO INFORM YOU ABOUT HIM!
He is Minnesota born and bred, the pride of Eden Prarie. He wasn’t highly recruited out of high school and ended up walking on at The U of M where he quickly earned a scholarship because he’s a badass and earned a starting LB spot his sophomore year, then led the team in sacks with 7.5 and TFLs with 10.5. He finished his college career with 31 TFLs and 12 sacks. At the combine he displayed his elite athleticism which included a 4.5 40, though he is a bit undersized at like 6’1 230. He was drafted in 2019 by the Jets in the 5th round and didn’t get on the field a whole lot, part of it was he had some sort of injury every year with them, but once he got to Houston he stayed healthy and was productive, including a game at some point where was DPOTW with like 15 tackles, 3 TFLs and several pass breakups. I love the signing, not that I’m biased or anything.
Thank you, very informative.
Not gonna lie, I had literally never heard of him before yesterday but I looked him up and he’s been productive when healthy (of course he’s had injuries, those are exactly the guys KAM loves) so I’m cautiously optimistic about him.
Greenard has been far more productive. Don’t disagree. That’s why he was so expensive.
My thought was that Young is still only 25 and would be much cheaper considering we’ve got Darrisaw and JJ to pay in the near future.
I’d agree he’s overrated based on where he’s drafted. But I still think there’s talent there – he’s a better gamble than the Couch was this time a year ago.
Young is Young and probably will be cheaper, but the Vikings have 150 mil in cap space in 2025 before the recent signings. The thing about Young that concerns me the most about Young is he not only tore his ACL, but also ruptured his patellar tendon in the same injury, which despite modern medicine, shortens NFL careers more than any other injury, especially when you combine them. Even the most recent history of players recovering from that injury is not good, the ones that made it back on the field were a shell of themselves. The only thing Young has on his side is that he’s young, but it wouldn’t shock me if he ended up having the same injury again.
Darnold W/L <8% of Kirks with weapons and offensive systems very much less than the Vikings current situation…
Couldn’t beat out Purdy to be the starter…
True.
But every option available after Kirk chose ATL is someone who is ‘competing to be the starter’
Not saying Darnold was the best option.
But the options after KC left aren’t great:
Mariota (now in Washington)
Jimmy G
Wentz
Jameis Winston
Mullens/Hall
Baptism by fire for a rookie QB (which may very well happen if Darnold gets hurt, performs poorly early)
I think I said this a long time ago. Once Cousins departs, the cupboard is pretty bare.
Maybe KOC can get a running game going, and the defense will be really great this year.
Depending on how much he cost, I’d have gone Jimmy
Jameis tossing to Addison and Jefferson would have been entertaining.
LOL, yeah he’d throw about as many picks to them as he would the opposing team
It would be entertaining though. Maybe he could break his previous record.
Yeah because all he did was take his team deep into the playoffs 100% of his career so far.
Its crazy to think about, but Mr. Irrelevant has been to the NFCCG and the SB in his first two years as a starter.
It is crazy, but also he is in a perfect situation, much like Russell Wilson was. He’s on a team with a great O-line, a great running game, and a really good to great defense. He has to make some good timing throws, but not much else, maybe scramble a bit for some first downs. Really if a QB has his head on straight and has a decent arm, it’s pretty easy to succeed in Shanny’s offense.
Still we beat them, and Purdy threw a couple picks when the heat was on.
Lol…..
Well…NFL….
No Fun League
I’ll say this about Darnold. He has shown he can move in the pocket decently and make some off schedule plays with his legs. He also has a strong arm. However, that hasn’t translated to much yet in the NFL. Hope KOC can make it work with him.
His accuracy is bad.
Does Sam Darnold suck? Yes.
With Darnold only getting a 1 year deal, does that imply Kwesi has a trade partner in his back pocket already?
Or just high intentions…….
Hopefully he has some sort of plan.
I think so.
I can’t remember another offseason where the team has been so active in FA. If Slick Rick were still here, we’d have maybe one signing right now, and be gnashing teeth at all the names coming off the board.
And collecting 7th rounders….
It is certainly more exciting than waiting “for the second round of signings…….then the third…….”
Absolutely.
At least he is trying to make some moves early.
He is in year 3, so he has to poop or get off the pot soon.
If he goes all in on drafting a QB, he will buy himself another 2 or 3 years.
I think KAM realized sitting on the sidelines, and watching top shelf talent get signed, while waiting for the dust to settle and sign guys everyone else passed on at bargain basement prices, was a bad plan poorly executed. If you’re going to get better, you have to bring in better talent.
At least I hope he has learned this.
Under Rick the Vikings weren’t often in position to be big players in FA
Yep.
Kind of had a lot committed to the QB.
They look plenty big to me
Anything more than a handful is wasted.
anything more is just gravy
love seeing a couple new faces commenting today!!
welcome! and don’t be shy.
Agreed!
I’ve been a long time lurker, since the old DN days actually. Been a fan of the purple for nearly 40 years now
Welcome!
So you missed out on the 1970’s dominating teams?
I’m stuck with that measuring stick when evaluating the Vikings.
Yessir, born in 75. Remember all the NFC championship losses though😐
They are painful.
Born in 78. I also know the NFCCG losses well.
Welcome aboard.
Born in 55… remember the Alamo…
Same year as my Dad.
Listen to your elders… they are wise.
Your dad was the same year as the alamo? Damn, that’s old
A kid – born in 50. And a Cub fan too. Lots of tough years.
We’re gettin old JR… grin.
Getting?
Everything is relative Bow…
No.
But I remember the…..
I feel exactly about The Beatles how the dude feels about the eagles
And if not for their influence, we would not have the Alamo.
First memories of football came when I was around 10. 85 bears come in mind. Not really sure what drew me to the purple but no regrets!
Well if you grew up in cheeseland, the puker fan base can drive people to do a lot of things.
Born and raised in Minnesota,.lived there for the first 38 years of my life
Good!
I was born in the Brooklyn Park area.
Back then, it was an up and coming burb.
Left in 1987 for work.
Welcome!
Welcome aboard!
I was born in 1961, same year as the Vikings…maybe I am the bad luck charm/curse…after I die, I’m sure they will win 5 SBs in a row…
You will probably have a front row seat with a super HD view.
Hopefully, looking down and not up… 🙂
If you’re looking up, you won’t even have to watch the games. You’ll know the Vikings won the SB by the ice skating rink that shows up.
LOL, well played!
I am 42, you figure out what year I was born!
Welcome! Im sorry you live in cheeseland, I hope you arent in a trailer park.
Nah, I liked our tight little group of 6 or 7. We didn’t even need to post anything anymore because we already knew what each other thought about everything. We were an old married couple.
Now we will have new ideas and perspectives….HOW EXHAUSTING!
Freezey as I live and breathe. I heard you were dead.
They suck, cut them
Yep.
Ben. Just a short note expressing gratitude for the thoughtful piece above regarding Cousins and he Vikings. To me it was very classy and something that is greatly lacking in today’s society – almost devoid of class.
Nice to read something above the fray.
Thanks again.
Agree, Ben did a great job, and classy is the perfect word.
Same!
I have been critical of Kirk, at times offensively, but he is a great dude and a good QB.
We all are critical of others at times. But what I thought was classy, at the end (like when someone retires) a classy person only highlights the good and positive – nothing negative is ever mentioned at that point.
And you did that in spades.
You gonna be busy. 😳
And the comments section is gonna be empty.😬
woah. who are you?
Don’t you mean ‘welcome aboard and grab an oar’?
that too.
what is this a Gophers website?
Let’s hope not
Vikings-Longboat-Oars
Try to keep up.
booker
You book’er!….you brought’er.
This may be the first time in a long time I am looking forward to the draft. I can’t wait to see who we are going to get for QB, if any.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we roll with Darnold, Mullens and Hall next season.
Kirk is a class act, but it was time to move on. I’m excited for a new era of Viking football! SKOL
Correct and welcome.
The Vikings finished the year tied with Chicago for last place, and 5 games behind Detroit.
Chicago is loaded with draft picks, and even they should find a few very good players.
I do not see this team competing for the division title this season, but anything can happen.
At least, with the current recent moves, I can see the team trying to improve and build for a future.
Vikings are only relevant during the latter part of decades in recent years, so we got time to get there.
87, 98, (2000 does not count), 09, 17, so we are looking at 2027-2029 as the window…
Note:
Not relevant over the last six years……
Things are changing. JJ is going to usher in a decade of contention. Statues will be built at US Bank of the Kumbaya Krew.
JJ McCarthy or JJ Jefferson?
I am open to the idea of JJ McCarthy ushering in contention.
JJ Jefferson, not as much.
The beginning of the decade will be JJ^2. The second half and the second decade will just be JJ McCarthy and whoever else they have by then. I am looking forward to arguing if McCarthy is worth 65 or 70 mill in about 4 years.
Good, I love exponents!
It the first day in nearly 6 years Kirk is not a Minnesota Viking. (Well, technically he still is until tomorrow, but you get the point)
i’m genuinely glad all the kirk haters are having their day.
they have been waiting a LONG time for this…
and they are in NO WAY still annoying hahahaaha
The reality is the Vikings don’t currently have a viable starting QB. What they do have is 28.5 mil ded QB cap space thanks to Rick Spielman’s elite can kicking, but on the bright side they have 150 mil in cap space for 2025 and a pick close enough to the top ten to draft a true franchise QB.
the bummer about it all is…
no matter the cap space, no matter the draft order, picking the next true franchise QB is not a lock or a given and we might blow it.
but that’s fine. let’s be excited now and watch it either work, or BURN
It’s okay to swing and miss on a player making $10 million a year.
Much harder to change when paying someone higher salaries.
I never hated Kirk, but it was time to move on. I said many times I would have been fine with a reasonable deal for one or two years as long as they still drafted one this year. What Atlanta gave him was not reasonable so good luck to him and I look forward to watching team JJ^2 and Flores’ revamped defense beat the Falcons in Minny on a Monday night.
It feels like a 2 ton weight is off the back of my football fandom. I would have had to be checked out if we extended 8, and now im glad I dont have to be and can have fun again.
i’m not a fan of tuesdays…
today is going to be a longggggggggggggg day.
i just ordered my sam darnold jersey.
to which one
all three, but mostly the Sam Darnold shirt
i was up at 5 working out, have work, and then a meeting after work until 9 or so.
tuesdays are just notoriously long days, mondays fly by, but tuesdays suck and time stands still
also, i was being facetious about the darnold jersey
That’s a long day. 5 am is normal for me, but I am done working by 5 pm or earlier.
i’m usually up around 5am as well, just makes for a long day when you got crap to do AFTER work that IS work haha
I’m up at 4:00 am est.
Silly millennials.
That’s the same time as foreskinface!
Sam Darnold wouldn’t even order a sam darnold jersey
Key Pro Days:
March 12 – Oregon
March 20 – USC
March 22 – Michigan
March 27 – LSU
March 28 – Washington and North Carolina
Nix sucks
Williams a pansy crybaby, immense talent though
Big Dick McCarthy Boner Throws!
Daniels has a lot of potential… to bust or be good, I prefer others but would not be mad
As is my philosophy in general, pass on the Penis
Maye is similar to Daniels but better size and arm, I’d be happy with this pick
Anyone but
KirkDarnoldI’m going to bitch about the vikings regardless, unless of course they win a SB
Same.
Always something to complain about.
At least things are changing at the QB position.
I do not disagree with these takes. I am not sold on Maye though. I really liked him at first but have seen things that are making me second guess that. Basically the opposite with Daniels.
All by myself and Hungry Eyes, RIP
I kinda missed this yesterday with all the craziness going on, but Brandel is the Vikings new starting LG.