Minnesota Vikings Discussion – SkolAsylum: 14 Nov 2023

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Minnesota Vikings Discussion Topic of the Day

The Vikings added Anthony Barr via free agency. Are there any other free agents that you’d like to see the Vikings add? Here’s a list of all currently available free agents from Spotrac, you can filter by position.

Minnesota Vikings News:

The Vikings added an old friend to the roster, as they signed free agent LB Anthony Barr, according to twincities.com. Hey, if it gives us an upgrade at the position, I’m all for it. MSN reported that the Eagles were also interested in Barr. Barr hasn’t played for anyone in 2023, so I’m not sure how long it will take for him to get into football shape. Hopefully he hasn’t gotten too lazy.

The Vikings likely added Barr because Jordan Hicks underwent surgery after developing compartment syndrome in his right leg, according to ESPN.

From Yahoo Sports, Commanders QB Sam Howell is currently leading the NFL in passing yards and completions. Yes, you read that right.

From CBS Sports, the Giants are challenging the Bears for the first overall pick in 2024.

The game hasn’t even started yet, and I’m almost ready for bed. Yikes. Here’s a link to the stats and highlights from the game. I’m gonna guess the Bills win by 17, I’ll go with 30-13 Bills.

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benjammin
Admin
15 November 2023 7:43 am

Hump day thread

Minnesota Vikings Discussion – SkolAsylum: 15 Nov 2023

Surly Viking
Admin
15 November 2023 7:38 am

No hump day thread?

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Surly Viking
15 November 2023 7:39 am

I forgot, it is Hump Day.

VikingPhilip
15 November 2023 7:23 am

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FloridaSKOL
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 November 2023 7:26 am

VikingPhilip
15 November 2023 7:02 am

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VikingPhilip
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 November 2023 7:03 am

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VikingPhilip
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 November 2023 7:04 am

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VikingPhilip
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 November 2023 7:05 am

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FloridaSKOL
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 November 2023 7:22 am

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  VikingPhilip
15 November 2023 7:14 am

JacksonVike
15 November 2023 6:22 am

First for Wednesday.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  JacksonVike
15 November 2023 6:53 am

Good morning, SKOL!

FTP!

norseman1
norseman1
14 November 2023 4:31 pm

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 6:28 pm

You sure killed it dead.

norseman1
norseman1
14 November 2023 2:55 pm

We bring back this Gaskins dude? Why not try McBride? I read he has “electric speed”

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 3:01 pm

McBride 40 time is over 4.5 not slow not particularly fast, Chandler is under 4.4, maybe you’re thinking of him?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 3:05 pm

USA Today Sports said that and incredibly productive in college. I know nothing on him. Just like different looks. KOC fascination with Mattison has driven me close to brick throwing.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 3:12 pm

LOL, yeah I don’t get why they play Mattison so much.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 5:29 pm

benjammin
Admin
14 November 2023 2:26 pm

Summary:

Jrob accuses benjammin of milking mice

DE says if you take out the bad 70 point game Denver’s defense is elite

NoDak was hoping to win cake but instead agrees with ben dum dum

Wrenage posts that he feels mental conflict because3 Kirk read to kids at his sister’s church yesterday

Northwoods posts that he and Wrenage are related

Booth Jr is a deuce according to BSF

Dalton Risner discussion for some unknown reason

GF posts he has to do continuing education today, somehow that develops into a discussion about weird dreams

Skolfrommt loves waking from dream about being unprepared, also dreams about rubber triggers

NoDak dreams of being benched in college by his football coach

DE suggests Freezey be a better man of god by not having dreams about meaningless little human items

BSF thinks the Vikings should hang a banner for having the best team blocking PFF grade so far this season

GF wishes Eric Kendricks were sitting at home on Davenport

Bow thinks Kirk can’t swim

Skolifer reports former Ravens OC Greg Roman is now doing porn starring in “when in Rome”

Norseman1 is surprised he hasn’t seen any intelligent communication from Diggs

BSF wants to see Bernie Sanders in a fight

SoCal suggests Bernie hit people with his cane

Long couch cost discussion

Pretty slow boring day

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 2:28 pm

you’re welcome

GF posts he has to do continuing education today, somehow that develops into a discussion about weird dreams

bowbunch
bowbunch
14 November 2023 2:11 pm

What’s your take on this Freezey?

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 2:17 pm

This is for sure true…

NoDakRube
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 2:34 pm

This is why it is so important to marry a woman with a good understanding of the scriptures.

freezeyface
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 2:35 pm

this

but also, having a good understanding of scripture yourself.

freezeyface
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 2:29 pm

well definitely either CONSTANTLY bringing it up OR yelling about it.
both are good way to go about it

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 4:05 pm

*CONSTANTLY bringing it up AND yelling about it

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 3:04 pm

If he had better automotive repair skills he wouldn’t have to remind her

bowbunch
bowbunch
14 November 2023 2:09 pm

Chicago, the city so great that even poor “refugees” don’t want to live there.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 2:12 pm

Silver lining?

norseman1
norseman1
14 November 2023 1:32 pm

$13 mil guy couch have ankle surgery? Big FA acquisition.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 1:33 pm

At least they’re getting cap space back with every week he misses.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:42 pm

Not really. He signed a $13MM one-year deal. The 2023 base salary of $1.5MM is fully guaranteed along with his $8.5MM signing bonus which prorates across 2023 plus 4 void years. I don’t know how his $1MM workout bonus is structured but I’m assuming most if not all of that has already paid out. So, that just leaves his $2MM roster bonus, which I’m assuming they’ll get some of that back (I’m not sure how they define roster…whether it’s the active roster or the 53-man roster…either way I’m assuming his time on IR won’t count).

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  skolifer
14 November 2023 1:43 pm

The $2m is a per game active bonus, so for every game he is inactive they get $117,647 in cap space next year.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:46 pm

Inactive doesn’t necessarily mean he’s not on the roster. He was on the roster early in the season, even though he wasn’t activated until week 3, IIRC. Once he was placed on IR, then I’m assuming he won’t get paid the per game roster bonus. So, yes, they’ll get something back but in the context of a $13MM contract, it’s peanuts.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  skolifer
14 November 2023 1:47 pm

I like peanuts.
Almonds even more.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  skolifer
14 November 2023 1:48 pm

$2 mill, or most of it, towards next year’s cap is still better than a poke in the eye.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:52 pm

Yeah, sign a guy for 13 mil to play in parts of 4 games so you can recoup 2 mil in cap space for the next season, that’s a great way to build a team

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:54 pm

More like a silver lining which is the most you can hope for after such a screw-up.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 1:55 pm

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bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:54 pm

My first comment was mostly sarcasm, but my point now is that at least they are getting something back and not just losing all 13 mill.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:54 pm

I agree something is better than nothing. I’m just saying that in the context of his full contract value, it’s not much. He’s been active 4 games already this season so nearly $0.5MM of the $2MM roster bonus is spent already. Bottom line, you’re technically correct…we’ll get something back…but I’m more frustrated by how much we spent for how little it looks like we’ll get.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  skolifer
14 November 2023 1:56 pm

Not as bad as what they’re paying Kirk every week to sit at home now.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 3:29 pm

Hate players that are hurt all the time – need to be dependable. Shouldn’t have to pay them if they are hurt all the time.
Going to have to go back and check Kirk’s availability record.

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 2:00 pm

$10 million fully guaranteed.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 2:02 pm

Yes, but they are getting cap space back from his per game active bonus. Not a ton, but better than nothing. Can’t predict injuries.

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 2:04 pm

Correct.
Compare that to Kirks dead cap hit, and it is nothing but pocket change in return.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 2:10 pm

It is mind boggling the numbers that are being thrown around.

KCs 28m dead cap.
47m for Allen in ’24.
56M for Allen in ’25.

And those QB contracts are going up fast.

DE Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 2:31 pm

True.
Mahomes is about the only one worth it IMO.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
14 November 2023 1:26 pm

We knew McCarthy was a corrupt establishment RINO, but it seems he’s also a yucky human.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
14 November 2023 1:30 pm

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:34 pm

Good grief. Can we fire them all and start over.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
14 November 2023 1:37 pm

I say props to this guy. The teamster was being a thug and didn’t think he’d be called out on his bs. Bernie should have let them roll. Start having fights in Congress, charge an admission fee/make it ppv and they’ll pay the national debt off in no time.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:38 pm

Agreed.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:42 pm

Haha! I’d like more of calling people out for their nonsense, but let’s duke it out on the Senate floor? I have read that back in the early days there were actual physical brawls in the congress though.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
14 November 2023 1:44 pm

They were known to duel back in the day.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 1:45 pm

Even better. That would be one way to clean up the swamp and one more thing to keep in mind when electing somebody.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:47 pm

Not a bad idea.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:47 pm

Instead of the VP being the tie breaker vote, just have the minority and majority leaders duel (fine use simunitions if you want) or they step into the cage. It would be time to pick new leaders. I don’t want to see McConnell and Schumer squaring off.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 1:46 pm

Oh, you’re right, lol.

Mjolnir
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:37 pm

What a bunch of clowns. Pretty funny that Bernie is the voice of reason.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 1:38 pm

Bernie was just being woke.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 1:38 pm

I’d like to see Bernie start throwing hay makers.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 1:43 pm

That will be the day.

Best he could do is like that fat clown in the Joe Kapp Video and hit someone with his cane.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:38 pm

Idiocracy nailed it.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 3:15 pm

Believe this is the second exchange between these two – think there was a similar hearing few months back and they really got into it.
Great theatre.

benjammin
Admin
14 November 2023 12:50 pm

Broncos are 2.5 point favorites on Sunday. I find that interesting.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:52 pm

Betting favorites are more about who the ‘wise guys’ think the rubes will bet on then who they think is a better team.

Mjolnir
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:27 pm

It is interesting considering that home field is usually good for 3 points in the eyes of bookmakers….

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:10 pm

Bills Twitter is funny.
There’s two groups posting.
Allan has great bulk stats (sound familiar), but the other group has noticed he basically has a self destruct switch that gets flipped at critical moments.
Also, his cap hit is going from 18 to 47 million (2024) and 56 million (2025). So it’ll be hard to bring in fresh talent next year.

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:27 pm

Are they saying that those self destruct moments are somebody else’s fault?

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 12:48 pm

You probably wouldn’t be surprised that many of the ints are blamed on the WRs.
I don’t watch the Bills unless it’s MNF, so I really don’t know how accurate any of it is.
But they do have some Kirk debate elements mixed in.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:51 pm

I watched the game on MNF, one pick was on him, one was on the WR. However, using Kirk logic, they are either both the WRs fault or both his fault, there is no nuance.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:58 pm

Nuance – what’s that!

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 1:02 pm

Two of my uncles got re-married and I had nuance.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
14 November 2023 1:04 pm

If your two uncles re-married each other you would have no-aunts.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 1:06 pm

Who are you to assume their gender?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
14 November 2023 1:08 pm

You did the Uncle/Aunt thing.

I was just following your lead.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
14 November 2023 1:13 pm

Kinda brings new meaning to the old saying, “if my aunt had balls”

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 1:13 pm

If you search for Josh Allan on Twitter, this was the third Tweet.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 1:14 pm

This is the next tweet

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 1:16 pm

And this is 2 below the above Tweet.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 1:20 pm

LOL, that’s funny, Diggs wanting “freed” didn’t have anything to do with Kirk, he was the #2 receiving priority on a run centric team and wanted to be a #1 in a pass first offense.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:22 pm

Surprised, ain’t seen any smart talk from Diggsy.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 1:22 pm

He’s letting his brother do it for him.

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:26 pm

When did lil Cook get back into the game?
I went to bed and I think he was still on the sidelines in the 2nd quarter.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 1:31 pm

He played off and on as much as I saw. Even had a big run with a fumble in the middle of it. Ball hit the ground and bounced right back into his arms. He never even broke stride.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:23 pm

Bills fans are big mad right now.
How mad you ask?
This mad.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 1:38 pm

So they’re going from Dorsey to Joe Brady at OC, who was highly sought after back in 2019 when he was the OC of an historic LSU offense on a team that won the NC. He was 30 y/o and that season at LSU was his only experience as an OC. I’m not sure how much was him vs how much was having a top 5 NFL QB and two top 5 WRs on the team though. He was then hired as OC in Carolina but lasted a little under 2 seasons with an offense that was bottom 3rd in the league, though he didn’t have much to work with, CMC was injured most of that time and his QBs were Teddy and Darnold, they didn’t have much in the way of explosive skill position players either. It’ll be interesting to see how things go.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:41 pm

50/50 they implode and miss the playoffs IMO.

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 1:25 pm

Very Kirkesq

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:28 pm

56 mil, i like it.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:31 pm

Yeah his cap hit is big next year, they do have flexibility in it though to adjust as needed, its not like those short term fully gtd contracts. It looks to me like since Daboll left he’s less and less confident in what he’s doing and seems unsure often from what I’ve seen. I don’t buy the self destruct at critical moments, against the Chefs in the playoffs he drove the team 75 yards for a game winning TD in less than 1 minute, only to see some horrible defensive playcalls allow the Chefs to go like 50 yards in 10 seconds to force OT and then easily score a TD in OT to win. It looks more to me like he isn’t recognizing things and is losing confidence.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:35 pm

And quite a few analysts say that Chief’s game was his high water mark, and it’s been down hill ever since. True – I don’t know.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 12:44 pm

Yeah, after that game Daboll got hired by the Giants and while still putting up similar stats and the team still winning, at least last year, he just hasn’t seemed the same.

bowbunch
bowbunch
14 November 2023 11:58 am

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:58 am

Accurate

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:29 am

Blackmon was a good pick

freezeyface
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:39 am

Addison is a homerun…
Blackmon seems to have a bright future

would have been curious to see Hall in a couple games but he won’t play the rest of the season if Dobbs keeps doing what he is doing

unsure of how ward or roy are doing, but I would say kwesi did very well this draft with the picks he had available.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 11:52 am

Ward has cost the team 6 points already this year. Roy is invisible and has a girls first name. Addison is probably a homerun type of pick so long as he stays healthy.

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:41 pm

WARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Northwoods
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 2:37 pm

Should be fierrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrD.
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Big Stupid Face
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 11:56 am

IMO: Hall looked good for a 5th round pick in his rookie year in the limited play we saw.
Potential is there.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:03 pm

One series?

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 12:14 pm

I was a big fan of his in August after the last preseason game.
I liked what I saw.
I hyped him up so much it was very annoying to many people on here.
Which made me do it more.
Ben thought he sucked.
But Ben doesn’t know talent

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:18 pm

He does suck, well at least for a starting NFL QB, he may turn out to be an ok backup.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:21 pm

I was laughing as I typed that. Me waiting for your response

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:32 pm

I’m a lot better at identifying QBs that will suck than I am identifying ones that are good.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:44 pm

They all suck.
Kirk? Sucks
Allan? Sucks
Rogers? Douche and sucks
Goff? Sucks.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:50 pm

I was an early fan of Jalen Hurts.
Nailed that one.
If only Rick took his scouting advice from the DN open thread.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:53 pm

I wasn’t sure what to think of Hurts other than he would not be successful in a traditional offense and would need it tailored to him, that Philly asshat coach seems pretty good at that.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:00 pm

Interesting to see how long he lasts taking on NFL LB’s.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 1:15 pm

He has a good physical build, but then again so did Cam Newton who he reminds me of. Once Cam stated breaking down with injuries and had to play a more traditional QB role he was pretty mediocre.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:02 pm

I just liked that the guy was extremely tough, strong (squatting 600+ pounds in college) and could elude pressure that could extend plays. Plus, he had the arm strength for deep shots (not great deep accuracy) and pretty decent short and intermediate accuracy.
I was quite excited to pair him with the correct coach and see what we could get.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:05 pm

My master plan was to fire Zimmer and hire Greg Roman to develop hurts.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 1:16 pm

That may not have been a terrible plan, wonder what Roman is doing these days.

skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:18 pm

wonder what Roman is doing these days

Rumor is he’s doing porn…just released his first sex tape: “When in Rome”

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:20 pm

I really have no idea, but preseason against scrubs and one series is not much to go on.
But if history says anything, he may turn out just fine or be not so good. Only playing time will tell.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 12:42 pm

You can learn a lot about a QB even against scrubs.
He has top level ball placement and can hit a receiver in stride as good as any NFL starter. That sideline throw to Mattison was perfect. Many NFL QBs will loft that a little which gives the WR a shot to adjust to an off target ball. But that fraction of a second loft let’s a safety close. Overall arm strength might be an issue, but he really can deliver an accurate ball.
Pocket awareness and poise were decent.

It wasn’t mistake free, but there’s some real potential.
The safe bet is just to say they won’t make it. In the last decade over 10 QBs get drafted each year.
Most outside of the first rounders never play a snap.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he developed into a starter.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:53 pm

Could be right. I recall many years ago standing on the field watching Gus Ferrotte throw the ball warming up – great throws, all of them. Then he played three great preseason games.
Went on to be a starter and hung around the league for a very long time. Made a lot of money.

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:44 am

Agreed.
Now, it’s only 1 year.

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:27 am

I’ll take an reason to post will Ferrell doing this bit

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:24 am

JJ getting close to coming back.
What’s his record this year again?
Are WR records a thing?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:32 am

Any news on Mullens? They definitely need him back so we don’t have to watch Mannion if Dobbs gets hurt.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:35 am

Yesterday star tribute said he’s “close”. Whatever the hell that means.

There’s no going back to a pocket passer now.
This is good

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:37 am

Anymore of those runs, like the one where Hall got knocked out. I’m all for a QB who can scramble, extend, and make plays, but I don’t care for QBs who run often.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:54 am

Yep. I don’t want a Vick. Just some one who can make shit happen when the play breaks down.
Like this

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:42 pm

Great pocket awareness of where/when the pressure is coming from.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 2:03 pm

It really is amazing, and noticeably much better than Kirk.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  JRo_42
14 November 2023 2:04 pm

Can’t be. Kirk walks on water. It might be because he can’t swim, but nobody else can do it.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:45 pm

My favorite Sunday.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:56 am

Same.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:02 pm

I keep thinking back on that play.
What if Hall slid at the 3 yard line vs getting hurt? Dobbs may never have gotten in the game.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Surly Viking
14 November 2023 12:17 pm

Correct and eventually something similar will happen to Dobbs if he continues running a lot.

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:32 pm

Disagree. He needs to keep doing what he’s doing. His first instinct isnt to run, he’s doing it to keep plays alive. I want that all day every day.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:14 pm

Throw the ball well first and often, scramble as necessary. But order counts, not vice versa – and one is a must.

Northwoods
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 2:45 pm

Law of gross tonnage. Smaller QB gonna get trucked.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:39 am

Why you leaving out Hall?

DE Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 11:56 am

Are you expecting Hall back this week?
I would say it is unlikely.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 12:00 pm

They say the NFL average for return from Concussion is 9d.
He walked off the field after his concussion so I don’t expect that it is much worse than normal.
We will see.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 12:18 pm

I wonder if being knocked unconscious changes the timeline

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:21 pm

Probably.

I only saw the one replay but I didn’t see ‘unconscious’ unless it was the Ali-Frazier (1) type where they say Ail was knocked unconscious but was awake again by the time he hit the canvas.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 12:36 pm

Hall is unconscious here at the end after his head hits the turf

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:37 pm

yep he and osborn were both out COLD

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:38 pm

Possibly.
If so it doesn’t last long as he is moving again in seconds.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:12 pm

Teddy was out cold and didn’t he play the following week?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:15 pm

That was in the ‘olden days’.

Since the Tua incident last year they have tightened up on the protocols.

Better safe than to be found financially liable.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:18 pm

Was that against the Rams back in like 2015?

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:19 pm

Sounds about right.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:20 pm

Broncos/bungles

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 1:22 pm

He was knocked out when sliding when he played for the Vikings and went to dinner that night and played the following week. Rams sounds right. Joyner maybe?

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:25 pm

Forgot that one, had a tab open on him and he did both i guess.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 1:25 pm

I remember that now, Zim had some choice words after that hit

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NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:30 pm

Yeah, Zim was not happy, and understandably so.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 1:21 pm

Yup.
Good old Lamarcus Joyner.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 11:56 am

He still hasn’t been cleared from the concussion protocol so I’m not counting on him being available, if he is great, just so long as its not Mannion as backup

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:54 am

JJ getting close to coming back.

My bet is he doesn’t play this week.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 11:57 am

He’s not playing until he’s 100% healthy.

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:58 am

Correct.
Isn’t that kinda what I said?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 12:16 pm

Yeah sorta, but I could see him being out for more than just this sunday

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:19 pm

Isn’t he on a 21 day practice schedule? Thought if not activated by then season IR. Could be wrong was once.

DE Viking
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 12:24 pm

Correct.
He is on track to be activated during the bye week.

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:24 pm

Yep.
I claimed yesterday that he is out until after the bye.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 12:27 pm

JJ have any input or just a staffing decision?

DE Viking
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 12:29 pm

I would assume he does.
He’d be smart to wait as long as possible.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 12:30 pm

KOC is saying that JJ is advocating to get back ASAP.
Medical wants to assess each step and decide if the next step is safe.

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:44 pm

He’s not playing until he’s 100% healthy.

Screw that shit…Vikings great HOF Center Mick Tinglehoff played an entire football game on basically one leg. And he didn’t even leave the game if he got a concussion….That’s when men were men.

He also developed dementia by age 70, but I am sure it was unrelated.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 12:55 pm

Yeah but JJ is WR so automatically he’s a diva

Northwoods
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 2:43 pm

A QB’s record is the actual win/loss record of the team, because, quarterbacks are solely responsible for the outcome.

Now, a WR’s record is calculated in Centigrade, because they only contribute 10% of a QBs production, so you have to double it and add 30.

DE Viking
14 November 2023 10:27 am

Thought this was kind of funny…..

NASA’s $100k tool bag lost in space is now orbiting Earth and surprisingly visible to stargazers

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nasas-100k-tool-bag-lost-space-now-orbiting-earth-surprisingly-visible-stargazers

Wrenage
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 10:29 am

If only there was some NFL QB that was a rocket scientist, he could help get it down…

DE Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 10:30 am

I set you up.

You’re welcome.

Wrenage
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 10:54 am

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 10:38 am

Nah, just call Freeman, he’ll knock it out of the sky.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 10:46 am

His arm isn’t that strong….

42
42
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 10:49 am

Give it a year. It will come down.

DE Viking
Reply to  42
14 November 2023 11:46 am

Yes, but it will burn up in the atmosphere before it hits the ground.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 10:28 am

Easier to fire him than it to fire Allen.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 10:33 am

When you’re suppose to be a SB contender and sit at 5-5, heads are going to roll.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 11:59 am

Right, not surprised. Offense looks like preseason.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 10:35 am

Well yeah, the trade deadlines over.

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 10:28 am

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 10:37 am

They’ve progressively gotten worse on offense since Daboll left, seems like maybe the OC does kinda suck or something

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:48 am

I would agree.
But McDermott is also making some dumb coaching decisions…..

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 10:38 am

Ken Dorsey this morning…

freezeyface
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 11:35 am

ahh yes, the offense is the reason they lost that game last night…

checks tape…

oh the defense screwed them over? Ok

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 11:46 am

Considering the offense kept giving the ball away and refusing to score, yes I would say they have a problem on that side of the ball. If the Broncos had half of an offense, they would have won by 30 just from the turnovers and short fields.

freezeyface
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 12:31 pm

so they seem to be a top 10 if not better offense..

turn the ball over alot yes, but still put up the yards/points etc…

JRo_42
JRo_42
14 November 2023 10:17 am

Barr is NOT an upgrade.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRo_42
14 November 2023 10:20 am

Not sure he is suppose to be.
He is being signed to the PS.
We have 3 ILBs on the roster and another on the PS.
Barr should be last man up.
Dye graded decent in relief per PFF (for whatever that’s worth)

freezeyface
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 10:32 am

all this

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 10:34 am

All the backups suck, otherwise they’d have just elevated the PS scrub. Barr will probably be playing w/in two weeks.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 10:50 am

The two LBs they have on the PS are listed as OLB.
Barr may be the best ILB they could bring in for emergency purposes.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 11:01 am

Vigil Dye and Assmaor as backups with, something called Kwenku on IR and that’s it. If he’s actually healthy Barr is probably still better than all 3 of the backups, but who knows at this point.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:05 am

Dye had a 72.9 Pff in relief on Sunday.
(I know PFF sucks and it doesn’t match your narrative)

Is he better than Vigil and Assmore? At this point we don’t know how much Barr has lost.

Vikings fan credo: ‘hope for the best but expect the worst’.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 11:20 am

Yeah, I think PFF sucks even when it fits my narrative, but we saw vigil for almost an entire season a couple years ago and he was just awful. The backups are either really inexperienced, not good at the game of football, or both.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:23 am

Vigil is a classic guy that’s not good enough to start but seems to get special teams reps and sticks around as a backup.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:31 am

Yup he is a bandage at this point.
Hopefully Barr will show enough to supplant him at the ILB4, or the ILB3 if Assmore is even worse.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:36 am

One of the few times PFF meets eye test

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 10:35 am

The post up top and some Tweets indicate he could be an upgrade.

“Hey, if it gives us an upgrade at the position, I’m all for it.”

No.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
14 November 2023 10:39 am

Probably an upgrade over the garbage backups, but not over Hicks.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 10:47 am

Certainly not an upgrade over Hicks.
Over Dye? Virgil?
We will know in a week or three.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 10:46 am

A guy who hasn’t played all season and nobody picked up is an upgrade? No offense, but I’ll believe it when I see it. He wasn’t good his last couple seasons here, and that was a couple years ago.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 10:53 am

Or they need another body and don’t have an ILB on the practice squad.
He is better than the empty spot they have now.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
14 November 2023 12:45 pm

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 10:54 am

Or he might be and putting him on the PS is a basically zero risk chance to see if he has anything left in the tank.

Northwoods
14 November 2023 10:13 am

Someone asked yesterday if Hock has had any drops from Dobbs.

Second series, throw to R sideline. Should have been a catch for 15-20 yards.

freezeyface
Reply to  Northwoods
14 November 2023 10:19 am

that was me!!

ok, so my theory that Hock is trying harder for Dobbs than he did for Kirk might have a SMALL hole in it…

Northwoods
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 10:33 am

Yeah, but he was doing another of his patented falling down backwards catch attempts with no possibility of contesting it. Had he stayed on his feet, planted, he would have caught it clean by boxing the DB out.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 10:53 am

biggest pet peeve: not coming back to the football

also, people that don’t hold open doors for old people. Jerks.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 11:09 am

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Mjolnir
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:19 am

Great movie! Quote it all the time…

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 11:23 am

Yeah, I couldn’t find a gif that had the whole quote, that one cuts off the rest of the line “children and dogs”

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VikingPhilip
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 12:21 pm

What if is an old person that doesn’t hold the door for another old person?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  VikingPhilip
14 November 2023 12:39 pm

Go all Joe Kapp their ass

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SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:40 pm

Sweet.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:41 pm

RIP Joe.

benjammin
Admin
14 November 2023 10:06 am

With the Broncos game coming up I just remembered this troll job by Tomasson of buttholemouth when Denver gave up 70 points and 700 yards to Miami

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:40 am

Hang the banner. Too bad Kirk can’t play behind this line.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:50 am

Fart noise

HUNViking
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 10:05 am

Yup

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:08 am

Well now we just need a decent defense and a Mobile QB.
Superbowl
Superbowl
Superbowl

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:50 am

And it begins…..

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 10:05 am

Lufdord is also a delusional homer.

KFEY93
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 10:42 am

He did play behind this line, and went 1-4 to start the year.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  KFEY93
14 November 2023 10:44 am

I’m pretty sure that’s BSF’s point

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:09 am

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  KFEY93
14 November 2023 11:06 am

It was sarcasm

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:39 am

Flores stole this from Donatel I’m sure

freezeyface
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:53 am

metellus has looked really good..

i take back my previous claims saying he sucks.

Mjolnir
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 10:06 am

He’s looked really good playing in front 7 sets – up and near the LoS as the 8th man in the box. Had a couple of free rushes against NO where he was able to effect the throw.

42
42
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 10:53 am

*affect

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 10:12 am

He’s good blitzing, he’s pretty good in the run game, he’s not so good in coverage man to man.

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 10:20 am

agree with this…

a couple times he has looked like anthony barr trying to cover cooper cupp

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:58 am

Twitter is just now realizing that Kronin is a hater?

Mjolnir
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:02 am

That is 2 minutes and 2 seconds of my life I’ll never get back and I’m officially dumber for having watched it.

DE Viking
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 9:05 am

I was going to click on it.
Thanks for doing that. Now I don’t have to.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 9:21 am

It’s just a couple of hacks trying to drum up controversy where there is none.

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:22 am

Yep.
That’s their MO

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 9:20 am

Yeah. Kronin has always been an ass, but this was ridiculous.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 12:24 pm

That was ridiculous. I like Dobbs even more after watching that.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:12 am

Stupid Damn Rocket Scientist….Can’t even learn people’s names or figure out where the locker room is….what an idiot.

Mjolnir
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 9:16 am

Lol… and according to those morons on screen it’s all done in an effort to drive up his social media following. That show sucks – it’s always a bunch of ‘never were’s’ talking shit about athletes as if they have any clue what it takes or how difficult it is to perform at high level. I’m betting every one of those panelists with the exception of the host got sand kicked in their faces repeatedly – and this is their form of revenge.

Wrenage
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 9:17 am

Who is a rocket scientist?

NoDakRube
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 9:19 am

Oh yes, you forgot…

Dobbs is actually a rocket scientist…Its true!!

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 9:21 am

Aeronautical engineer, but rocket scientist funnier.

DE Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 9:22 am

This is not Jeopardy……

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:16 am

She’s a clueless tool, so is Barnwell.

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 9:20 am

Sometimes stupidity makes a person very unattractive. I find her very unattractive….

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:55 am

Hicks got his Kirk Cousins Halloween costume a bit late

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:57 am

Anthony Barr szn

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 9:01 am

Does he have anything left?
He seemed to injury his groin a lot.
Ask your mom how his groin is doing these days.

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 9:16 am

We would not be making the desperate move to sign Bar if Hicks weren’t going to be out for a significant amount of time.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 9:30 am

It confirms that and the fact that everyone else at ILB sucks ass and are horrible, Dye has been total garbage his entire career, Vigil absolutely sucks and always had, and Assmoah looks like another waste of a draft pick.

Wrenage
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 9:21 am

I think I’d rather see Leber suit up. Guy still looks fit.

benjammin
Admin
14 November 2023 8:46 am

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 9:00 am

Now the hell part – rehab/PT.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 9:01 am

Well it’s Tuesday, so that starts tomorrow.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 9:07 am

Maybe for football, but rehab is torture M-S.

KFEY93
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 10:43 am

NO ONE CARES

NoDakRube
Reply to  KFEY93
14 November 2023 10:45 am

I care.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 10:46 am

Yeah, but did you see that Rodgers was walking AND carrying a duffel bag at the same time?

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 10:47 am

Rodgers >> Cousins….Duh!!!

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:44 am

That was some bad football.

freezeyface
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 8:46 am

this actually brings up a re-occuring bad dream i have from time to time….

about to graduate college only to remember i had ONE class i forgot about and never went to and i have to take all the tests in one day and pass in order to graduate.

Wrenage
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 9:04 am

I have a very similar dream. I am at college, and the semester is about to end, and I realize that I had multiple classes that I skipped so much, I forgot all about them. Then I try to remember what they were and where they were.

The other reoccurring dream I used to have was that something terrible was coming to get me, and I ran to a gun cabinet, got out a gun, and then I couldn’t get it loaded. Have not had that one in a long time.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 9:08 am

I have these dreams as well about missing classes/tests at college.

The other one I have is I am back at college playing football and I am late to the locker room and can’t get my locker open and I miss the entire first half of the game so the coach benches me for the 2nd half…sucks.

freezeyface
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 9:24 am

i also have similar! get to the baseball field and forgot my glove or cleats and have to miss the game, or can’t play until i find replacements etc…

NoDakRube
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 9:54 am

Interesting…so similar…I am sure this a deep meaning in there somewhere.

freezeyface
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 10:21 am

well, it was always my worst fear to forget something whenever we played away games, or went on our florida spring trip, so i would check and double check and triple check and quadruple check my bag

DE Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 10:22 am

Being a man of GOD, shouldn’t you be having dreams like Daniel, rather than meaningless little human items?

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 10:33 am

I should…I need to pray harder!

freezeyface
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 10:35 am

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NoDakRube
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 10:37 am

My brother was in Iraq, he was leading a 20 vehicle convoy out of the gate when he realized he had forgotten to take his weapon along, so all 20 vehicles had to turn around and follow him back to his tent so could get it…the general in the rear vehicle was not amused.

I may have told that story before.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 11:15 am

What an idiot. Although once when I was in we were doing a community project building a road in the middle of summer, it was very hot and the road grader didn’t have a/c so the soldier operating it had the door secured open to get some air moving through the cab. Anyway, after a long day he realized at quitting time his weapon was no longer in the cab and we had to dig up miles of freshly graded dirt until sunset and all day the next day to find it, which we never did. I kind of hate him for that.

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:56 pm

Oh my goodness!

NoDakRube
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 10:44 am

Freezey, I read this on the internet so I know its true

dreams of forgetting show your Anxiety about having so much on your plate that you fail to ‘remember’ the important things.

Our dreams indicate we are both overworked and overburdened.

SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 9:33 am

Have, on occasion, the “rubber trigger” dream. Tons of ducks are pouring into the decoys and I can’t pull the trigger of my shotgun because its made outta rubber.

NoDakRube
Reply to  SkolfromMT
14 November 2023 9:53 am

I think this is symbolic of your “other” problem…you know they make pills for that now.

SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 10:14 am

LOL
Pills to make my trigger stiff so I can ‘shoot ducks’?

NoDakRube
Reply to  SkolfromMT
14 November 2023 10:34 am

Yeppers!

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 9:23 am

i have had the being chased dreams where i can not run

or the shooting a gun at the bad guys but the bullet either never fires or it just falls out of the barrel

i’m glad to know i’m not the only one with these dreams…

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SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 9:31 am

Have a similar dream on occasion, walk into class, there is a test I need to pass to graduate, and I didn’t know about the test let alone study for it. Last had it about a year ago. I love waking from that dream.

Wrenage
14 November 2023 8:37 am

Me and the Limey are up to the Man With The Golden Gun in our Bond series…

Bond On: THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN

Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:25 am

He sucks?
Cut him??

freezeyface
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:28 am

i am genuinely happy to see that our dbacks seem to really be playing well.

Flores is a mastermind, do we get him for one more year?!?!

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:31 am

According to PFF he played well Sunday

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 8:32 am

vikings have ELITE te’s

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 8:37 am

Well, they’re the highest paid in the NFL so they should be

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 8:38 am

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 8:43 am

He has to suck since KAM drafted him and KAM sucks at drafting.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:50 am

KAM does suck at drafting but that’s beside the point, he was a high 2nd round pick who has barely played his first two years, kinda hard to tell if he sucks or not when he’s never on the field.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 8:52 am

What about:
Addison
Evans
Blackmon
Ingram

They suck?

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 9:13 am

I’m pretty high on gummies, just using the taste test.
*Disclaimer I’m not actually at this moment

Mjolnir
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:27 am

Lightweight

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Mjolnir
14 November 2023 9:29 am

Me if I ate 60 mg.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:19 am

I like Addison, Evans is ok until his next concussion, Blackmon is ok, again small sample size, Ingram fucking sucks and should be getting raped in prison.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 10:41 am

Yikes, I wouldn’t say those things, but I do think Evans and Ingram are bad, with a few good games sprinkled in.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JRo_42
14 November 2023 10:43 am

I’m not a big fan of child rapists like Ingram, but that’s just me.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:05 am

Yep,and not like he is going to win any blocking awards anyways.

Northwoods
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 10:11 am

Anyone else think those numbers on Risler are less than accurate? I can’t recall any glaring pressures he’s given up.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Northwoods
14 November 2023 10:13 am

No, and O’neill didn’t play that well either, PFF is especially garbage when it comes to oline grades.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Northwoods
14 November 2023 11:17 am

He’s actually not doing a great job in run or pass blocking.
He’s fun in interviews and is energetic though.
But basically he’s a below average guard who was not signed until 4 weeks into the season for a reason.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:20 am

Like how he almost pushed pile and Hock into EZ.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 11:30 am

He’s above average pass blocking, pretty meh in the run game. He’s slightly above average overall but was obviously looking for a payday much higher than what NFL people see his value as.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:48 am

He’s overall PFF (insert off hate here) grades are all pretty meh to bad.

23: 55 which is worse than Ingrams
22: 62
21: 68.5. This is average starter
20: 61
He’s not terrible. I’d say slightly below average.
This was a decent run block

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:49 am

His overall PFF (insert pff hate here) grades are all pretty meh to bad.

23: 55 which is worse than Ingrams
22: 62
21: 68.5. This is average starter
20: 61
He’s not terrible. I’d say slightly below average.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:12 pm

PFF is bullshit. Also, the grading scale for the NFL is below, with average starter being in the 60-70 range (yellow) so basically you’re saying that every season of his career he has been at least average until this season.

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norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:15 pm

Heard him on KFAN, sounds pretty sharp. Guessing he’ll grade well Sunday.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 12:19 pm

Oops. I thought 70 was the average cut off.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 12:40 pm

Also, if you look at his weekly grades its interesting he grades out above average pass blocking generally but like total dogshit run blocking.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:36 am

69 snaps in 10 games, that’s not much of a sample size

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:52 am

Good, because he looked completely lost on the field when he played last year. Improvement is great, but still doesn’t seem to play much.

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 8:53 am

7 snaps per game??????

I don’t think that’s a sign of confidence from Flores.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 8:54 am

So he sucks?

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:03 am

I would say yes if he is used 7 plays a game.
wouldn’t you?

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 9:10 am

Context is important. See above.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:12 am

It’s a small sample size – but looks like an improved player to me. Hopefully keeps progressing.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 9:12 am

Nah. Context

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 9:10 am

Context is important.
He had 4 total snaps weeks 1-5.
There’s a good site below with all the snaps taken.
Vikings actually play 3 safeties a ton, so there’s usually only 2 CBs out there.
He’s been getting about 14 snaps per game in the last 5 games, which is about 25% of the D snaps. He’s moving up in the world. Which is nice to see.

https://www.footballguys.com/stats/snap-counts/teams?team=MIN&year=2023

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:18 am

You’re correct about context. Last year he was poor, so this is big improvement.
But PFF grades aside, how well does he cover a top WR in one on one coverage. Can’t say I’ve noticed, Do you know?

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 9:25 am

I’ve no idea.
I was under the assumption he was a complete bust. But he’s getting a lot more reps lately and apparently doing it well.
I have 3 ranks
1. He sucks. Cut him
2. He sucks? Cut him??
3. He dot not suck. Do not cut him.
He’s now a number #2 or a deuce.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:29 am

Me either. If he can cover, good. If he can’t cover, not good.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:32 am

Now that he’s getting a couple snaps a game he’ll likely get hurt soon and go on IR.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 9:34 am

Probably some non- contact type injury too.
Turf toe sounds about right.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
14 November 2023 9:52 am

Maybe turf toe, I’ll guess hamstring though

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 11:18 am

That was my initial guess, but I wanted something even more stupid.

norseman1
norseman1
14 November 2023 8:05 am

I know Bills are beset by injuries but didn’t expect that. Allen looking ordinary this year. Diggsy baby 3 for 34. Too bad.

freezeyface
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 8:23 am

allen is not that great of a QB to be honest.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  freezeyface
14 November 2023 8:25 am

Unless fins collapse might not see Bills postseason.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  norseman1
14 November 2023 8:54 am

Turns the ball over a lot.

DE Viking
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 9:06 am

But how many are not his fault?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 9:11 am

Don’t know. But watching last night, would say one him, one on WR. Did you watch?
In general though, he seems to force a lot of throws that don’t turn out well.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 9:05 am

Think the pics are killing him. I believe 2 last night.

DE Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
14 November 2023 9:06 am

No. Can’t be.
Stats are the ONLY thing…….for many.

benjammin
Admin
14 November 2023 7:54 am

I remember a lot of us liking this kid a lot coming out of college, of course since we all liked him Rick didn’t draft him, but he’s become one of the best guards in the NFL over the last couple years

VikingPhilip
14 November 2023 7:28 am

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Wrenage
14 November 2023 7:18 am

I picked up Dobbs in my fantasy league while Mahomes had a bye. Dobbs got me solid points.

Mahomes hasn’t really been tearing it up lately. His two weeks before the bye were anemic. He’s really only had a couple superlative scoring weeks this season.

What do you guys think about starting Dobbs over Mahomes this week?

Crazy?

Or so crazy it just might work?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 7:47 am

I would probably start Mahomes based on matchups, Denver’s defense is terrible against the run but pretty good against the pass and have done quite well containing running QBs like Allen and Fields, this would seem a good time for the Vikings to rush the shit out of the ball. Philly is giving up an historically low ypg against the rush but they’re pretty bad in the passing game so I’d expect Mahomes to throw quite a bit.

Wrenage
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 8:02 am

That is reasonable.

I’m really looking forward to the Broncos game. I like night games, and it is a great test for Dobbs.

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 8:24 am

isn’t the old fantasy adage “always start your studs”?

so…. start Dobbs.

Northwoods
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 8:25 am

I’m in the same boat. I was starting Cousins over Mahomes until the injury, then I picked up Dobbs. I’m starting him this weekend over Mahomes.

Denver may throw a wrench in passing yards, but Dobbs should add quite a bunch of yards on the ground as the pocket collapses.

Wrenage
Reply to  Northwoods
14 November 2023 8:34 am

I lost one big game because of Mahomes. He only netted like 7.40 points against Denver, which is interesting since that who is the Vikings play next. Dobbs will hopefully beat that. Mahomes was sick, though, I believe.

You’ve actually got the same QB fantasy lineup I have. I also had Cousins and Mahomes and then picked up Dobbs when Kirk went out.

Northwoods
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 10:30 am

TWINS!!
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Wrenage
14 November 2023 6:53 am

It has been brought to my attention that Kirk Cousins visited one of my church’s sister congregations yesterday to read to the kids.

This creates a lot of cognitive dissonance for me.

On one hand: awww…

On the other hand: Beaker!

kc
DE Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 7:02 am

Looks like he is enjoying retirement…….

Wrenage
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 7:07 am

That is a solid roast. I guffawed.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 7:41 am

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Kirk and Julie became missionaries after he retires.

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 8:26 am

they wouldn’t have to travel far, minneapolis is just down the road from him

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 8:56 am

That would be possible.
Although I have no clue if they would enjoy living in filth doing missionary work.

freezeyface
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 8:25 am

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Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 7:40 am

No question Kirk is a better human than I am, and better than most, for sure.

Maybe he stays, maybe he goes, but 5-8 years from now when his playing career is finally over, these kids will still remember that he read to them.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Surly Viking
14 November 2023 7:49 am

I don’t see Kirk playing until he’s 41-44. I like Kirk the human, I am pretty luke warm about him as a QB though.

KFEY93
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 10:46 am

He should do this full time next season and retire.

DE Viking
14 November 2023 6:40 am

Broncos on Sunday night will not be an easy game.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 6:42 am

Agreed. Wilson always has been decent vs the Vikings.
He played well last night.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 7:07 am

Yep, they are playing much better.

DE Viking
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
14 November 2023 7:19 am

Their defense is solid.
Hopefully the short week and the late flight back from Buffalo will make them suck.

Wrenage
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 7:12 am

This is Dobbs chance to solidify himself as the man. Primetime, baby!

Have you guys heard he is a rocket scientist?

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
14 November 2023 8:27 am

dobb’s is a rocket scientist??

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benjammin
Admin
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 7:38 am

Playing a mile above sea level does make things a little more difficult for the road team. They are statistically the worst defense in the NFL, but I saw a stat that since giving up 70 points to Miami their defense is giving up an average of like 20 ppg. That game may not be the cakewalk the homers assume it to be. Their offense is still pretty meh though.

Surly Viking
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 7:41 am

Defense has improved dramatically the last few weeks.
It will be a difficult game. I have faith that it will at least be entertaining.
With 7 games to go, Vikings need 3 wins to secure a WC spot.

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 8:57 am

@take out the bad game, and their defense is elite@

NoDakRube
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 9:00 am

Unfortunately I agree with Ben Dum Dum…I was looking for a cakewalk, but since the 70 point debacle they are playing much better….

Its going to be a war.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 9:04 am

They may be playing a little better now, but are they really better than Saints or Falcons. Seems to me like they are all about the same.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 9:05 am

Yes, and I believe the Saints and the Falcons were both 1 score victories.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 9:13 am

True, but shouldn’t…….but shoulda woulda etc. Good point.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
14 November 2023 9:35 am

Yes they are better than the saints and falcons

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  benjammin
14 November 2023 9:49 am

You’re milkin mice here over the difference.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 10:37 am

Watching the game last night, their offense is horrible. As long as the Vikings don’t turn the ball over, they should win. The game last night was a clown show contest to see who could lose. It seemed like neither team wanted to win.

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 10:49 am

True, I wouldn’t call Denver’s offense “efficient”

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  NoDakRube
14 November 2023 10:52 am

It was painful. Buffalo would have a good play, then say nah, Denver you have the ball. Denver takes it and their offense goes, no we really don’t want to score either. The shit show field goal to end the game was a microcosm of the entire game. Oh, I also heard that the 12th man on the missed FG was Hamlin and saw a pretty distasteful meme about it. Not a great showing for finally making it on the field this year if true.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  bowbunch
14 November 2023 11:54 am

Dark Hamlin Gif.

Surly Viking
Admin
14 November 2023 5:47 am

GM
FTP
Team is better with Dobbs vs Kirk

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
14 November 2023 6:22 am

Can’t be. We were told that the Vikings were doomed without Kirk.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Surly Viking
14 November 2023 7:10 am

Good morning, SKOL!

FTP!

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Surly Viking
14 November 2023 7:40 am

IDK if they’re better with Dobbs, but for better or worse, they are a more entertaining team to watch

DE Viking
14 November 2023 4:37 am

Funny stuff here…

Guest Column: God Here. Megan Rapinoe’s Career-Ending Injury Is Proof That I’m Real.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 7:10 am

LOL!

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
14 November 2023 9:04 am

@it is so mean spirited, shame on you for kicking her when she is down@

Laughed my ass off.

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Gone fishin'

Gone fishin'

I'm a dad, husband, Army vet, believer, and a die-hard, life-long Vikings fan from the great state of North Dakota. I've been a Viking fan dating back to 1980, I've been covering the Vikings for nearly a decade, and I founded Skoloholics in 2022. I work in real estate and property management, I love spending time with family, working in the yard, doing anything in the outdoors, and as you can tell from my username, I love fishing. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!

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