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What should the Vikings do with their first round pick (23rd pick)?
- Stay at 23 and take BPA (34%, 14 Votes)
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IF the Vikings draft a QB this year, who would you like to see them draft?
- Will Levis (35%, 18 Votes)
- Clayton Tune (18%, 9 Votes)
- Hendon Hooker (16%, 8 Votes)
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forbes was his pick. Said they probably trade back in reality with 4 corners off the board.
No way if they can’t trade out of their spot they’re gonna pick an under sized corner who can’t play man.
Not a good looking streak…
This might happen….year backing up Cousins and learning could make him dynamic.
Only if they draft Tune later on and have a RG III Cousins 2.0 scenario.
That headline is poor English.
He’s gone. Dougie confirmed he won’t be on team this season. Just a matter of when.
Who is Dougie?
Darren Wolfson from ABC Twin cities. He’s legit and only leaks stuff if it’s true. 100% and never fails otherwise won’t confirm it
Follow on Twitter. I hate skoar north but partners with them on a bit. Part of the reason why so many ppl like them
Purple lock in JJ with 5th year at about 20 Mil?
Go WILD
Go Twins
Go Wolves…..i guess.
Give him an extension this summer that kicks in after 2024 and after the Cousins dead money is gone.
This QB/WR stuff is disturbing against team cap.
For sure. Front load the extension so that a decent chunk is paid off by the time you get around to extending Hooker in 2026 or 2027. Give him a bit of a signing bonus so he gets some cash now and then a higher salary in 2025/2026.
Used to be teams could pay one guy really handsomely and divvy out the rest of the money amongst the rest of the team. Now with cap manipulations like void years, teams are trying pay a half dozen or more impact players handsomely to boost their talent level. It remains to be seen how the cap progresses as the years go by. We could see teams with 5 or 6 players making $50M a year one day.
Hard to be competitive when you pay a inordinate amount of money to half dozen players.
Well it works for about one year… see the Rams Super Bowl team.
I ain’t getting any younger, maybe i’d take it.
I’m with ya’
Samesies
Maybe??? MAYBE?????
Ditto
$19.4 Million for 2024.
JJ isn’t holding out.
Yep no brainer… they have him for two more years. Cousins is gone after 2023, but they still have a ton of dead cap on the books for him in 2024. After that, they can either pay JJ a big contract in 2025 or trade him.
And you absolutely pay Jefferson the max deal for a wide receiver, turn in the contract and shake hands with ownership. He’s durable he’s dynamic and he wants to win.
He will watch and learn. He makes lightyears cash in endorsements. One injury could derail his entire career. Unlikely to play until new deal IMO.
Hmmm….
Since I’m sure you all miss him, if you don’t have an XM subscription and have been on the fence, Spielman is on NFL radio now. I’ve heard him co-hosting a couple of shows the last week. He was on the Opening Drive this morning.
Bye bye Douche…..
Until you retire, when they will welcome you back with open arms.
Of course it looks like its in a ghetto AF spot. Like that entire shitty town.
fuck all those pig fucking inbred fat fucks.
FTP!!
Alright so here’s the story:
So I have a really good buddy here in Chicago who’s one of the top realators in chicagoland. A boat load of connections. He’s recently started selling houses in Florida and is building alot of connections too.
He recently started selling houses to ex-NFL agents/players/front office personnel in FL. He was at a party hosted by one of these guys and had a bunch of these ex players/agents/front office people and they were discussing that JJ staying in Minny is not a lock. Essentially they said that if Minny goes WR its a big signal that Vikes could shop JJ for a massive haul in the next year or two.
Just reporting what he told me at this party with a bunch of ex-NFL people and what they’ve heard rumor wise.
IMO, I still don’t think JJ plays this season without a deal so that logic kinda didn’t make sense. Definitely not a fan of shopping JJ, but idk if it’s a lock he signs here long term.
This makes zero sense.
He is fined large dollars once training camp starts.
AND he loses accrued seasons towards free agency.
Sorry, but unless JJ is traded, JJ plays for the Vikings for two more years regardless of a new contract or not.
I would agree with that. He’s not in a great spot to hold out. The Vikings would have his contract rights.
JJ is making $2,399,473 in 2023.
He isn’t giving up $40,000 a day.
That’s why they show up and just don’t do anything. I have a feeling they’ll either get a deal done with him or trade him. Not sure if that extension comes this summer or next though. Are WR contracts going to keep going up or will it be like RBs and they will come back to earth? QB contracts will keep going up, but I could see WR contracts coming back down, at least some, so if I were doing the deal I wouldn’t go over 3 years. That would keep him locked up through 2026.
Quiet quitting.
It’s a thing.
JJ is fucking playing and he’s not being traded. Kirk would be traded before JJ. Buncha crock
Agreed
Don’t shoot the messenger just saying what my friend with a bunch of ex-NFL legit ppl were saying
Yay, let’s draft another Justin Fields other than at least Fields was semi successful in college

Yeaaaaahhhh I don’t know.
Not a fan of that move.
It would be…what it would be….
He’s sick. Massively high cieling but needs 1-2 years behind Kirk
Never mind.
FWIW Levis > Hooker and 95% of experts would agree. At least right now.
They just agree that he will be drafted higher because of the ACL. I have seen many people saying he very could very likely end up being the best QB in the class.
Agreeing that he will be drafted higher is not agreeing that he is better.
1
Why do people hate Richardson so much?
To me his floor is Cam Newton but ceiling could be better than Josh Allen.
I never talked about him much bc thought vikes would never have a shot at him and would be 2nd QB off the board.
Because he isn’t a QB. He is an athletic freak, work out warrior, but he is not a good QB. I would say he is just as likely to be the next Taysom Hill as he is the next Cam Newton.
I’ll let KOC be the judge of that.
but he is not a good QB.
Translation…..
“The number 11 pick is available for a trade”
I was chatting with Mick last night but look out for these possibilties.
I wouldn’t be totally surprised if they trade JJ but I think it would be more about money and I don’t think there are any WRs this year that even have a chance of being in the same universe as JJ. It would take a massive haul to trade him, but you never know with the Hill and Brown precedents.
I’m not in favor of trading JJ. Generational talent that doesn’t come by often. You pay him and will be better than Moss.
Im just saying if we’re semi rebuilding with new QB does JJ want to stay or does KAM want to pay that much?
I have a story about this I’ll share later from a friend
I’m not advocating it either, but what if Houston for example were to offer 2, 12 and next year’s 1?
The odds of drafting a good player in the first round is 50/50. The odds of drafting a JJ-type player in the first round is probably 5%. I wouldn’t trade JJ for 2 first round picks.
How about the 2 I listed, 2 in the top 12 this year and one next year? What was the compensation for Tyreek Hill last year?
Not even close to that.
While JJ is on another level… 3 1’s can transform a franchise for half a decade or longer.
#2 and #33 this year and next year’s 1.
Can…also can’t if the picks suck.
Dallas did well with 3 1st after you know who was traded for a haul.
Look how great the Vikings did with 3 firsts a few years ago.
Shariff Floyd, Xavier Rhodes, Cordarelle Patterson
Good point, that was one of my favorite drafts.
Looks like KC got a 1,2, and 4 last year and a 4 and 6 this year. JJ would be worth more than that . I’m just curious what compensation level do you get to where you make that trade. I hope they extend him, draft a QB and let Cousins walk, but every player is for sale for the right price. What is that price with JJ?
I don’t know.
JJ will be 24 this year.
He’s going into year 4 with a 5th year option.
Does he hold out? Do the Vikings push it?
Could they get a 2k+ season out of him and sell him off for someone else to pay 30m+?
I would. Tyreek got that and he was 27…not 24. Big difference.
He puts up 1800 yards this year he’ll want bit time bucks.
Man, I agree.
Paying JJ QB money is more silly than paying Cousins in my opinion. Cousins is at least a QB. What are we supposed to do with a $30 million receiver? That kind of salary will just hamstring us.
$30 million receivers are for teams looking for that one magical piece.
That’s my take on it as well.
And that’s too bad but it’s just business.
The hope…is that if they are going to make a move they do it before THE TEAM loses all the leverage.
Remember back when gas was less than $1? Times change, prices rise.
How many games do we win last season without JJ on the roster?
This is a good point. Not sure how I´d feel about the Vikes trading JJ, but it could be justified under some circumstances… especially if the haul is adequate.
Cousins would have to agree to a one year extension for #1. Doubt he does that.
Why?
especially if he finds more success this year than last year?
It doesn’t make sense from
the Vikings standpoint as it only pushes his dead cap hit out another year.
Cousins won’t play KAM’s game or any GM that offers a contract that allows him to be traded or cut without significant impact fiscally to the team. He fought that battle with Bruce Allen and won. He won’t sign a contract that gives a team power over him.
Well, if that’s true, 2023 could be his last year in the NFL.
Only if he chooses it to be DE.
I’m not sure what your childish GIF means, but Cousins is walking, no one is tossing him out.
Probably right, since Cousins refused to sign a two year extension without two years fully guaranteed.
Just sign Wentz. He’s a ND boy so bound to have a late developing All Pro career like Thielen, especially if he gets to play close to home.
^^This^^
Cousins offered his services at under market value, but KAM wants control of the players future. Yeah… that doesn’t work for Cousins. He’ll decide where he works, and who he works for.
Only to a certain extent and if he leaves MN, the odds are that he will be going to a team even worse than the Vikings. Good teams don’t need QBs very often. His best chance would be SF decides to move on from Lance and Purdy shows why he was drafted last or Stafford gets tired of getting beat up and retires. Other than that, not who else could be in the QB market next year? TB, Jets if Rodgers retires, NE, Chicago, Seattle, Tennessee?
You never know what the future holds. I’d say the Niners could pick Cousins up in 2024. They don’t suck.
That would be the odds on favorite.
But at $40 million a year guaranteed????
Cousins offered his services at $35M to the Vikings and they turned their nose up at it due to their “flexibility” issues.
Not sure about that exact number.
But what makes you so sure another team will offer that amount guaranteed?
DE… only three QB’s have thrown more TD’s than Cousins over the last 5 years. He’s never missed a game for injury. He’s one of the smartest QB’s in the league and one of the most accurate. You seem to fail to grasp the reality here.
We will see.
You think Cousins will easily sign with any team he wants on his terms.
I don’t think it happens like you think it does.
Call me childish all you want.
Do you remember our Cousins bet?
No… of course I’m old, but I’m not a welcher…
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I will take that bet if you want.
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Sure DE… what do you want to put on it?
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Think our O-line will improve. Loss of AT doesn’t bother me much. I’d prob bet, if i had money.
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$50..???
And let’s be clear as possible.
If Kirk plays 2 games, it’s those two games.
If Kirk plays to the super bowl, it includes all games played. Regardless of injury or being benched.
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Works for me
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sounds good. You are on.
So Cousins passer rating at the end of the 2023 season has to be 97.9 or higher for you to win?
If it’s 97.8 or lower, I win?
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I’m working on getting the pictures posted.
The files are too big.
Yes. I’m old too.
NLNVF
DE Viking
Yep… good to go on that
$50
Yep… good to go on that DE.
Guys should bet just prior to game one. Draft, camp, preseason. Shit happens.
I know… but it’s only $50
NLNVF offered it on April 1st.
I took the bet.
How was that 35M structured though? Did he want 2 years 70M all signing bonus? Flexibility means more than simply being able to cut the player. There are lots of things that can be done in the structure of a contract that gives the player security and guarantees but also allows the team to make moves. Huge signing bonuses do not help the team.
Bow, the Vikings didn’t want to fully guarantee 2025.
What does that mean? There are many ways to guarantee it that would still give the Vikings some flexibility. As a signing bonus, no thank you. As a roster bonus and no no trade clause, sure. Is he willing to put in a cancellation clause that voids 2025 if he retires?
You’re talking cap manipulations… not salary.
Players get paid their annual salary so if Cousins signs for $35M a year, that’s what he’s paid. Whether the team structures the contract with signing bonuses or whatever to manipulate the cap, the player gets paid what his contract says. In Cousins case he wants his money guaranteed so if he’s injured, or benched, or whatever, he gets paid his full amount. Contracts have all sorts of team friendly clauses to take money from a player, or allow a team to simply dump them without compensation.
This assumes that some team will agree to guaranteed contracts.
Would not surprise me. Both of those things could make sense for the team.
Also look out for Kirk gone after 2023, QB sits 1 year. Idk why you keeping ignoring this best case scenario.
This is a big reason why IDGAF about trading 1s away.
To be fair Darrisaw very well could be on his way to being an All Pro.
And he could Kalil himself too.
probowl isn’t a “high bar”
and Darrisaw got robbed.
point remains… trading away 1s isn’t the end of the world.
unless you give them tk the eagles.
That’s why I said All Pro lol
Yesss..
I’d like to see all 4 of those guys on the roster going All Pro this year.
Exactly. People act like first round pick is a loc.
I’d argue Darrisaw is good and JJ elite. Rest were busts or meh at best.
A little unfair. KAM has only had one attempt.
Go back and list EVERY 1st round pick. Vikings did quite well picking talent prior to the Spielman years.
Not wrong.
but the point is they shouldn’t be scared to move around and take their shot.
Yep.
Correct.
This was discussed last week on Skolohol’s
Here’s the rest of the 1st round picks prior to Waynes. Some were good picks but lost d/t injury or mis-management, but the player was very good. Some of those early years, I have no recollection of who/how they played. The team had a pretty darn good record of drafting talent in the first round until………Wreck.
Tommy Mason – don’t remember himJim Dunaway – don’t remember him
Carl Eller – DAMN good pick
Jack Snow – don’t remember him
Jerry Shay – don’t remember him
Alan Page – DAMN good pick
Gene Washington – good pick
Clint Jones – don’t remember him
Ron Yary – DAMN good pick
John Ward – don’t remember him
Leo Hayden – don’t remember him
Jeff Siemen – good pickl
Chuck Foreman – good pick
Steve Riley – good pick
Fred McNiell – good pick
Mark Mulaney – ok pick
James White – don’t remember him
Tommy Kramer – good pick
Randy Holloway – don’t remember him
Ted Brown – good pick
Doug Martin – ????
Darrin Nelson – good pick
Joey Browner – good pick
Keith Mallard – good pick
Chris Doleman – good pick
Gerald Robinson – ???
DJ Dozier – good pick
Randal McDaniel – DAMN good pick
Robert Smith – DAMN good pick
Todd Steussie – good pick
Derick Alexander – ????
Duane Clemons – ???
Duane Rudd – OK pick
Randy Moss – DAMN good pick
Demitrius Underwood – disastrous pick
Daunte Culpepper – good pick
Chris Hovan – meh
Michael Bennet – good pick
Bryant McKinnie – good pick
Kevin Williams – DAMN good pick
Kenechi Udeze – meh
Erasmus James – meh
Troy Williamson – meh
Chad Greenway – good pick
Adrian Peterson – DAMN good pick
Percy Harvin – DAMN good pick
Christian Ponder – ugh
Harrison Smith – DAMN good pick
Matt Kalil – meh
Cordarrel Patterson – good pick
Xavier Rhodes – good pick
Sharrif Floyd – good pick
Teddy Bridgewater – good pick
Anthony Barr – OK pick
Treadwell can still break out!
Zimmer just misused him
What was the maintenance brad? Where’s my Z key?
I’m not sure. Something about migrating servers, and I have zero clue what that means.
It means bringing in waiters and waitresses from foreign countries. Duh…..
Ohhhhh, that makes sense.
LOL
LOL
I have the treadwell bandwagon covered up out back…it’s ready when he does!
Dang levis is gaining mad steam because hes the best and will succeed in NFL
Yeah, let’s use the first overall pick to draft somebody who’s never won anything and can’t hit a pass inside 15 yards. That makes sense.
Zero talent brah. Just like Josh Allen at Wyoming
The difference is that Allen’s receivers missed the ball and Levis misses the receivers because he doesn’t know how to step into a throw.
Compared to a 25 year old meh player who can’t make a second read coming off ACL injury
The “meh” player threw for over 700 more yards than Levis with a completion percentage over 4% higher while also throwing 8 more TDS, 8 less interceptions and having the highest QBR in college football compared to the 59th rated QBR.
And Levis doesn’t peel bananas and puts mayo in his coffee. I’ll keep Kirk’s less than Michelin grilling skills over that weirdness.
Which of these sounds worse:
Personally the age and ACL don’t bother me but somebody who is probably a 50% completion QB on forward passes and throws a lot of interceptions in college is a hard pass unless he falls and the coaches think they can fix his feet. I also think its funny that one of Hooker’s weaknesses is taking too many sacks yet he was only sacked 23 times last year compared to Levis’s 36.
Absolutely worth all of the psychological damage and learning issues we put on our children….Fucking moron.
lol l
I’m still going to wear my apparatus and keep my groceries cleaning station going in my garage. Five would be proud of me.
Actually,
Fauci admitted masks didn’t work in February of 2020, when it started.
He just lied about it to financially gain on the pandemic.
Yep
He financially gained BEFORE the Pandemic when he was in charge of moving gain of function research off US soil (where it was banned) to China, where this shit started in the first place. He is literally the reason the world went to hell in a hand basket.
Dude should be hung in a public square. Along with Anyone who profited at Pfyzer over the past 3-4 years. Criminals of the highest order.
Yep
Yep, a total piece of shit.
Agreed.
I agree. Kwesi is nothing like Spielman. If they plan to get a QB they either go all in on one of the top 3-5, or take a luxury late rounder flyer if he gets several additional picks via trading down. Way too many holes to fill on O and D to spend a pick on a QB from rounds 2-5.
Personally, I think Kwesi is drafting a QB.
He likely has to follow through on his plans to put pressure on Kirk so he can re-sign Kirk for less money.
I think they will if board falls right they will. I dont see KAM unloading multiple firsts. To calculated and not risky at all
Think they could draft Hooker or that UCLA guy later to maybe get some leverage
Cousins has all the leverage here. KAM has none. Cousins is a free agent after 2023. He can walk and get a deal elsewhere, or KAM can bring him back on a contract he agrees with.
In my opinion KAM will let Cousins walk and start all over.
If they don’t draft a legit QB then Kirk has all the leverage. If they do, then he doesn’t but depends how high. if they take some 5th round pick then Kirk still has leverage
If they draft a “legit QB” then Cousins still walks and signs elsewhere… that doesn’t really play in the equation. If the Vikings don’t draft a legit QB, they either pay Cousins, or find some guy to play QB for them like the Redskins have done since Cousins left them.
Kirk does not.
He is more valuable to the Vikings than any other team.
And it’s about time that we have a GM that might recognize that.
Its taken time to get here.
He’s going to be 35 going on 36.
Does he want to got a “struggling” team who “needs” a qb or stick arond throwing the the best WR in the NFL and top 5 TE in a place he’s been for 6 years going on year 3 with the same Coach and system.
All that matters is the Benjamins.
I guess.
But you cant say he is all about winning when more likely than not he’d be leaving the Vikings for a worse team.
He’s never been all about winning, he’s always been all about the money.
Yeah, if he wanted to win he wouldn’t have ever signed with the Vikings.
Cousins is in the catbird seat. He can do anything he wants after 2023 and the Vikings can’t do a thing about it.
Cousins can leave the Vikings.
That is true.
But is another team willing to accept Cousins demands? I’m not so sure.
I don’t see it.
Yep.
I think Cousins signs another extension for less than his earlier demands with the Vikings.
He walks if KAM plays hardball.
Good.
I hope it happens.
He walks to a crap team if he wants to play hardball.
If KAM’s view is that he will let Cousins walk, Cousins has zero leverage.
But he can just go play for some other mediocre team and get them to pay him a bunch of guaranteed money.
Well, Kirk’s goal is guaranteed dollars.
Good for him if he can find a third team willing to do it.
Kirk has been playing on fully guaranteed contracts for 8 straight years. No other QB has been able to do that.
Yep… good that at least one player in the NFL has beaten the “contract” hold teams exercise on their players. A contract means you can only play for a team and they can cancel that contract any time they want, trade you, etc. It gives the team total control of the player, if the player allows it to. Cousins has changed the paradigm. More and more guaranteed money is being put in contracts for the players because of Cousins precedent.
Well, that’s a bit of stretch.
But I guess Cousins next gig is NFLPA boss.
Bit of a stretch? Before Cousins, guaranteed money was pretty minimal. Look at what Hurts just got. Every QB in the league is asking for big guaranteed money now.
Hurts has been to a SB. Watson contract was pure stupidity. Smart QBs structure their contract to get their money but give the team flexibility, a la Mahomes. I think there is some pretty good wiggle in the Hurts contract too so they can make cap space at will when needed. Look at Lamar. He’s won an MVP and can’t get a guaranteed contract like he wants. He’s going to end up playing for 31 mill this year and then either getting tagged again or hitting free agency. He’ll get paid by somebody in free agency potentially, but will be giving up potentially 20 mill over the next 2 years to get there.
Smart QBs structure their contract to get their money but give the team flexibility
Translation: Smart GM’s make sure they can get rid of a player if they want.
Smart players don’t play that shit.
Yeah, Mahomes is a big fat dumb dumb with his $450 million and 2 SB rings so far. It would be much better if he would have made the Chiefs give him a fully guaranteed at signing contract and they didn’t make it past the WC round.
Mahomes’ contract features $141.428 million in guarantees over 12 years, including a $63.082 million signing bonus.
He didn’t have a 63M signing bonus. He had a 10M signing bonus with the 2020-2022 salary and roster bonus guaranteed. His base salary in 2024-2026 is only 2.5M and the rest of his annual contract value is primarily in roster bonuses that guarantee typically the year prior (similar to what Cousins contract was). The massive roster bonuses are what give the team big time flexibility. If they have cap space one year, they just pay the roster bonus. If they need some cap space to sign somebody, just go to the bank of Mahomes and change a little to signing bonus. His cap hit is around 45M-50M every year except 2027 at this point when he has his biggest roster bonus of 49M and a cap hit of 62M. The biggest difference is Mahomes is going to play for awhile barring a career ending injury.
Please read this article.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/patrick-mahomes-contract-details-chiefs/135gtys5bd4gn1wrxm7nuz1v56#:~:text=Patrick%20Mahomes%20guaranteed%20money%20Mahomes%27%20contract%20features%20%24141.428,years%20and%20his%202021%20and%202022%20roster%20bonuses.
I’m not sure of your point other than to verify what I just said other than the two sentences that contradict themselves and ultimately say what I just said.
I said he had a $63M signing bonus… you said he had a $10M signing bonus, etc…
All the things you parsed as an argument were actually rolled into his signing bonus.
You intoned I was incorrect with the amount of his signing bonus. I was just showing you the facts.
We were talking about how Cousins changed the landscape in the NFL forever when it comes to guaranteed money, then you went off on this tangent.
No, I quoted your own article that you got the 63M signing bonus thing from and it contradicts itself. It says the 63M is signing bonus and base salaries for 3 years that are guaranteed after saying it is 63M in signing bonus. 63M was guaranteed at signing, but only 10 M of that is signing bonus.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/
It says he got a $63M signing bonus… that included the stuff you parsed out… bother.
All I’m saying is that the article contradicts itself and he did not actually get a 63M signing bonus. Guaranteed at signing is not the same thing for cap purposes and it actually makes a huge difference for their cap hits and dead cap numbers.
He actually did though. They rolled everything into a signing bonus for cap purposes.
Nope. They only have 4M remaining in dead money from his 10M signing bonus between 2023 and 2024.
His dead cap hit this year is due to 4M of the 10M signing bonus remaining and his 2023 and 2024 roster and workout bonuses (23M and 35.5M), 2023 and 2024 salaries (5.5M and 2.5M) and the remaining prorated portion of the 12M restructure bonus and I believe some hit from a restructure last year. They also owe him 2.5 for going to the SB and winning the league MVP.
OK I tire of this… he has a dead cap number of $134,330,143. Who cares about $4M from the $10M piece of his signing bonus?
DE, I don’t think you understand. KAM has no leverage to do whatever he wants with Cousins. He can’t trade him. He can’t sign him to a team friendly contract, and if he lets Cousins walk he eats dead money and gets nothing at all in return. Cousins is a free agent and KAM can only give him a contract to his liking, or let him walk. That’s zero leverage.
They will be eating the dead money one way or another. The only thing they can do is take the hit over 2 years instead of one if Kirk is on the team in 2024.
I understand your view.
If KAM doesn’t want Kirk’s terms, and has said no to Kirk, how does Cousins have any leverage with the Vikings?
He doesn’t.
nor with any other “good” teams.
who’s going to need a QB this year?
especially a 36 year old who eats 40m+ fully guaranteed?
You mean 2024.
But yes I agree.
I don’t think any team values Cousins at $35 million plus fully guaranteed.
Because the Vikings lose, lose, lose across the board in that scenario. They lose one of the best QB’s in the NFL and the team has ever had. They lose all the dead cap money hanging out in the void years all at one time, and they lose because they get nothing in return for letting him walk. Does that sound like he doesn’t have leverage?
If KAM doesn’t want Kirk, how does Kirk have leverage?
I think I just explained it but c’est la vie
This whole back and forth is just more and more proof to me that they are going after a QB this year. If they are unsuccessful then they’ll extend Cousins.
I agree. Except Cousins is a free agent after 2023. They can’t just keep him if they want to.
He doesn’t.
he’s a known quantity here.
hed be going to a new team and a new OC in a new place…
what would his potential landing spots be?
TB? PIT? ATL?
where do you see him going?
Have to wait and see how the landscape pans out after this season to see who the suitors might be. Could go to the Niners. We’ll have to wait and see. I do think there will be more than a few teams that would love to have Cousins accuracy and consistent TD production.
Looks like some things need to be resized.
A refresh fixed it.
What first girl to see you naked said
Yup, it was too big for her.
I am keeping the site up with the sheer effort of my will…
Yowza….
https://thedraftnetwork.com/2023-nfl-mock-draft-week/
If you don’t want to click the link:
That would be very aggressive and cause quite a stir on this site.
Is it dead?
Not yet, it seems.
So this means that the site is undead, as of 8am, right?
Every Packer fan reaching for hope right now.
lol
It’s 7:59.
The site is about to go down…
When men are on the cover of “Brides Today”
This is Biden’s Amerika.
https://pjmedia.com/culture/benbartee/2023/04/24/brides-today-features-hairy-transfeminine-man-in-ultra-cringe-cover-story-n1689893
Our society is deconstructed at an ever increasing speed. SMH
True, and anything that was a ridiculous trans thing that happened under Trump was Trump’s America right? It has nothing to do with Biden, that is giving Biden too much credit. You can’t assert he’s an incompetent brain dead turd (which is what I think is true) and then also be like…He get’s all this blame for doing all these things.
Edge it has an awful lot to do with Biden…The Biden administration has consistently promoted the whole “trannies are normal and oppressed” narrative…he even went to far to higher incompetent trannies into his admin just cause they were trannies…Like the dude who stole all of the airport luggage…Fucking Moron.
K, Biden is a very competent leader who gets things done just not things you agree with. Or is he an absent minded idiot. Can’t be both.
I guess at the end of the day I think you guys are giving Biden too much credit. I think he’s a shell of his former self. But apparently you think differently.
Fair enough…we should say the Biden administration, i.e. the puppet masters….they are indeed the ones to blame.
That “dude?” is one of the scariest things I’ve ever seen.
Trump is being called “Evil” for this stance.
The wording alone makes me cringe. Nobody wants to “erase the transgender community”. Framing at its disgusting best, because it is perfectly OK to keep children from being sexualized and indoctrinated by a sick ideology.
Why? To prevent things like this (I know I´m preaching to choir in your case, DE):
https://thepostmillennial.com/trans-teen-died-from-vaginoplasty-complications-during-landmark-dutch-study-used-to-justify-child-sex-changes
Yep.
I dont recall any Trans folks holding major public or state office during trumps run. Refresh my memory?
In the Biden administration it isn’t about what you know but who you blow or who you pretend to be.
I’m still angry the Jets gave up so much for Rodgers. Essentially a second and a first. Hopefully both bust.
I would love it if they drafted a WR with pick #13 right after they trade Rodgers though.
At least he’s gone. Not convinced Love will be good at all, but plenty of Packer fans around here think he’s the next HOF QB.
FTP!
It is a little scary all the fire power everyone else in the division has in the draft…
Rodgers still a $40M cap hit for the FTP this year though. Haha 😆.
Fell on Black Days is one of my favorite songs. What an absolutely amazing track!
Great song indeed.
I have such a hodge podge of favorite tracks. It’d be Subdivisions by Rush, Her Ghost in the Fog by Cradle of Filth, Fell on Black Days by Soundgarden, Heaviest Matter in the Universe by Gojira, Stockholm Syndrom by Greydon Square, A New Level by PanterA.
Same here, I also have many favorite tracks from very different genres. I like my music diverse, so to speak.
Same here, I can enjoy something from pretty much any genre.
I’m such an ass, anytime someone says they like all genres I always go, tell me your favorite death metal track lol. But I really do thoroughly enjoy everything form blue grass to death metal to rap.
I like Slayer
Maybe they aren’t death metal, but I don’t know that I’ve listened to death metal. I listen to a lot.
Death Metal Purists would assert these later albums by Death are less death metal and more “pussy progressive” lol.
Which is Thrash. If you can get past the vocals. I think you might like later Death. Death metal is called Death metal because of the band Death. Absolutely amazing guitarwork and musicianship overall.
Death Metal? Bolt Thrower!
YES!!!!
Me and an English bloke are going to analyze and rank all of the Bond films. We start with Dr. No…
A hardboiled egg and salt is simple yet delicious.
Eggxactly.
X6
maybe, but I’ll wait till eggslusher weighs in to try it
Yum. Have to have the salt though.
Salt is quite essential, indeed.
What time is the site down today Brad?
Scheduled for 8am IIRC.
I thought it was supposed to be down now. I was surprised when I was allowed to log in.
You know, it says it’s in maintenance mode, maybe we can still comment. It just won’t save any of the comments once it goes live.
Cook trade talk continues among pundits. I think Cook himself might welcome a trade to say, Miami, but they look pretty set at RB. After seeing some of the key guys he went to war with the last many years let go, he might just be thinking it’s time to move on.
Yeah the Cook situation is a pretty standard one, he’s set to make too much and the Vikings simply aren’t going to pay that much. Whether he’s traded, cut or renegotiates and stays is anyones guess. Probably stays at a reduced rate.
Great media selection.
Fitting, since I now have to actually pay attention in some useless meetings this morning when this site is down.
I forgot about that.
Im glad I got my posts in early.
They can’t shut it down if we don’t leave!!!!
Lol.
Will be a layup win and they’re featuring Kamala prominently as well. People want stability not overthrow attempts of our government. Autocrats like Putin, Orbon and Trump were the hero’s for Tucker who is a Swanson frozen dinners heir…those dumb enough (five) to listen to his spew thinking he had their best interests in mind is a reflection of their lack of intelligence and how out of touch they are with Americans who will again vote Biden in to the White House.
LOL
Lifer is such a tool on politics.
Does a repeater of far left propaganda count as a tool?
Just as much as repeaters of right propaganda.
.
Two people voted to keep the racists lol…you know who you are.
The
votesballots will keep rolling in for the senile commie muppet, just like the last time. Curios if he can top his last result, what with getting the mostvotesballots ever in a presidential election 😂You beat me to it!
You guys want an autocrat…move to Hungary and get you a nice portly Hungarian white woman and get the government stipend for pumping out white babies. You’ll be happy.
Move to China or Russia, where 95% of the “vote” goes to a commie. Every time.
Why would I move? I’m not the one complaining about the results of the last two elections in 2020 and 2022 and the upcoming 2024 potential results.
You are the one who wants republicans in jail. That’s what they do in your homeland.
I want the people who obviously broke laws and committed crimes to be in jail sure, don’t you?
There is not enough room in the jails for all of the Bidens.
Lol….we’re talking about legitimate crimes not made up nut job conspiracies about laptops, cocaine and hookers.
Nothing to see here sheeples…move along…its not about the hookers dum dum its about the obvious influence peddling and the tax evasion.
IRS whistleblower has told Congress that Hunter Biden probe is being mishandled – ABC News (go.com)
Wow, you’re brainwashed.
“People want stability” except when it comes to Biden…
Doesn’t matter.
The ballots are ready.
It could be an AI robot, and the AI robot would get the most ballots if the AI robot were a dem.
lol, dumb.
Everything you say here is in the realm of correct but also half the story. Are you dumb enough to think Biden or Kamala have your best interest in mind? Because if so you by your standard that shows your lack of intelligence. But I don’t think it’s a lack of intelligence in your case or 5s. I think it shows just how brain washed and party loyal you are.
no I don’t think the Dems, any of them have any of our interests in mind. DC is owned by corps and the mega rich elites. I have forgotten more about politics than most know here.
What’s the latest Viking hot take today?
Vikings trading for the number 1 pick in the draft?
That’s the only qb left to be linked too
Correct…..
We got to make sure we cover all possibilities so we can claim we were right!
Interesting take by RFK Jr.
He also better watch his back.
Better watch his back lol…what is the country going to kill another Kennedy?
The country didn’t kill either Kennedy.
The CIA is the favorite on JFK and Sirhan Sirhan killed RFK.
If Biden can try and jail Trump, he will try it with anybody.
Biden isn’t trying to jail Trump lol…..Trump is trying to jail Trump.
-Biden didn’t pay off Stormy Daniels with campaign funds.
-Biden didn’t call election officials in GA to change legitimate voting results.
-Biden didn’t run Trumps businesses in NY to have 35 counts of fraud he’s being charged with.
-Biden didn’t pack up classified documents for Trump then refuse to return them when told to do so.
See the facts as they are not how you want them to be. It’s embarrassing.
NY is letting out felons who commit violent crimes and not even prosecuting violent crimes. Yet you want NY to prosecute Trump. Trump will win on appeal.
Please…that’s about bail reform laws not Judges letting violent criminals back on the streets while they go after poor little Trump. You’ve been getting your spoonfuls of disinformation from mum huh?
Rodgers is going to suck so bad with the NYJ. He’s going to float in to this new team unmotivated, not connected with the team or players at all. All that and the fact he’s just not that good anymore.
Or, maybe he is motivated to prove the Pukers and the NFL wrong.
I don’t agree with that at all.
He may be more motivated than he has been in years.
He only went to 3 straight NFCCG’s with Hackett as his OC… and is his OC again.
GB never had a defense like NYJ does either… but it’s gonna be a dogfight for him in the AFC
As much as we hate The Douche, never count him out.
Yeah… I wouldn’t be betting against him.
I didn’t like the trade but the Jets are gonna be a good team
Yeah. As you said, getting through the playoffs in the AFC is a killer.
Rodgers will suck in NY. Put me on the record in BOLD.
Define Suck.
That’s GASkol
Now that you mention it…
He’ll perform well below his career averages, it will be shown even with playmakers he’s regressed. They’ll make the playoffs and get bounced in the divisional round by one of the AFC powerhouses.
At least we have a possible gauge on what you are defining as “suck”.
So if he performs slightly below his career averages, you are saying he didn’t suck.
Are the Jets going to force him into a new unfamiliar offense like they did with Favre?
Just the offense that was so prolific in Denver last year.
Hackett was his OC in GB for 3 years and they went to the NFCCG every year.
They had the 15th, 1st, and 10th highest scoring offenses in the league with Hackett.
I think it may be a little different than Favre.
If his unfortunate (to put it mildly) HC stint didn´t ruin Hackett the Jets´ offense could be good. Will be an interesting season in the AFC.
Yup, he’ll have a fire under his ass this year. Stepping in to a pretty good situation. Tough division and conference, but the Jets should be tough this year.
Buh Bye…..
Bye
Lol that’s awesome
Detroit… ended as the best team in the NFCN… I mean they sure beat us. What did we have 20 yards rushing. Yup, Cook is worth 14 million! Good thing they don’t have much draft firepower lol.
Gonna dominate the division for the next decade easily. Look at how good Jamo is. He had a catch last year and is only suspended for 6 games this year.
Did you feel the Vikings or the Lions were the better team at the end of last year? I felt like the Lions would beat them 3 out of 5 times type of thing. Which team has the cap space and picks to improve more? I know they had the suspensions so that helps the good guys lol.
Gm!
FTP!
Good morning!
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GM!
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SKOL
Good morning, SKOL!
FTP!!