Minnesota Vikings Discussion-Wednesday SkolAsylum: 12 Nov 2025

Vikings hump day discussion

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Vikings Discussion & Random Thoughts

Happy hump day, everyone! A happy belated Veteran’s day to all of you veterans out there, a sincere thank you to all of you for your sacrifice and service. I missed yesterday, I put on 650 miles on Monday and crashed early that night. A billion thanks to bowbunch for coverting the thread yesterday.

I see Brian Daboll got fired. He was living on borrowed time anyway, time that he borrowed from defeating the Vikings and the Ed Donatell defense in the wild card round back in 2022. We were at the game to see that in person. 4th and 8. Blech. That game gave Daniel Jones a big contract and gave Daboll an extra few years. The Vikings say “you’re welcome”.

Vikings and NFL News

The Vikings aren’t “moving on up” when it comes to the latest power rankings, details from Vikings.com.

Dang it. CB Asante Samyel Jr. is signing with the Steeler’s practice squad, per NFL.com. I thought the Vikings might sign him, Kwesi loves him an injured player.

CBS Sports has an NFL week 10 recap. As a Vikings fan, I don’t really care to read a week 10 recap, thank you very much.

All the latest news from around the league in NFL.com’s NFL News Roundup.

For those of you who have lost hope already, here is the updated 2026 NFL draft order, from NFL.com.

Media Selection

I really like Andrew Hueberman, here he is on The Diary of a CEO podcast, enjoy!

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Wrenage
13 November 2025 8:23 am

Live in the now!

No longer New Vikings Fan
13 November 2025 8:22 am

Here we go again…

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
13 November 2025 8:29 am

Glacial periods are cyclical. Many geologists feel we are currently in a non-glacial period of an ice age. They say this period will end when a glacier picks up the city of toronto, and dumps it in Tennesee.

Yes, the activities of humans do impact these periods, but i have never seen any statistical modeling that says how much impact we have, as compared to the normal ebbs and flows

Yes, i am a trained geologist, but not a glacial geologist.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  PA Viking Fan
13 November 2025 8:34 am

‘glacier picks up the city of toronto, and dumps it in Tennesee’

Does that mean that Nashville will have to accept that Canadian Monopoly Money that they use up there??

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
13 November 2025 9:10 am

Think how much cheaper the beer will be

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
13 November 2025 8:30 am

I thought ‘Global Warming’ was going to ’cause sea levels to rise’ and wipe out all of the coastal cities. Hard to keep all the ‘fake news’ straight.

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
13 November 2025 8:33 am

Yes it would

benjammin
Admin
13 November 2025 7:04 am

It’s Wednesday again, man this week is really getting long

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
13 November 2025 8:08 am

Its Deja Vu all over again.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Gone fishin'
13 November 2025 10:22 am

I went there once, overrated

JacksonVike
13 November 2025 6:49 am

Happy thorsday,?

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
12 November 2025 9:29 pm

Just heard about McCarthy’s hand, ugh.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
12 November 2025 9:53 pm

Yeah, not sure how serious it is, they seemed to play it down today. Still, a little worrisome.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 10:56 pm

It’s his throwing hand, yikes.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
12 November 2025 9:53 pm

He said he didn’t think it would be an issue.
When has he been wrong about an injury before??

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 10:58 pm

I wouldn’t worry so much if it weren’t for the other two injuries.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 8:00 pm

CR has passed the House and is on the way to The White House for signature.
Now we get to watch the Woke/Libs/Dims melt down some more.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 8:03 pm

The total shitshow is about to happen. Dems are starting to eat their own.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 8:04 pm

And at the end of Jan we probably get to do it all over again.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 8:13 pm

Doubleing down on a bad hand seldom wins. But fools seldom learn.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 8:37 pm

They don’t have to ‘win’.
Virtue Signaling is it’s own reward.
Heck they are trying to gaslight the public into thinking that they ‘won’ the shutdown.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-senator-reveals-deal-secured-shutdowns-fate-says-worth-it-stop-federal-layoffs

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 7:28 pm

Love these…

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 7:57 pm

Those are way less of a problem here than they were in SoCal.
Heck, we don’t even have to lock our mailboxes here.
You could never get away with that on the Left Coast.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 7:58 pm

I don’t think I’ve ever had to lock my mailbox… wow.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 8:02 pm

Locking isn’t always enough, crowbars work well enough.
Post Office has even recommended that no checks be send in the mail at all due to the risk of them being stolen.
It is a pain in the butt having to go to the Post Office and stand in line with all the other victims to pick up your mail once your box was hit.
Sad but true.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 8:56 pm

Sad indeed.

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 7:08 pm

VERY COOL!

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 7:12 pm

Very Cool.
But it looks like a lot of effort, time, expense, etc to be worth it to me.
I might play with it a couple of times and then it would sit and waste away.

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 5:22 pm

Injury report

001-injury
MT Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 5:44 pm

In honor of the 50th anniversary…the legend lives on, from the Chippewa on down, of the lightweight they call McFragile ™

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 7:29 pm

Laughing… clever boy.

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 5:08 pm

Hmmmm… didn’t know McCarthy injured his throwing hand in the game Sunday.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 5:50 pm

Obviously Jackson fault for getting his head in the way of JJ (QB)s hand, aka hitting the QBs hand with his head.

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 3:31 pm

Sorry I was off the blog for a while when the tariff discussion was going on below. My wife came home from the gym, and was mad as hell, and of course she needed to vent with me.

She is a personal trainer and specifically works with competitive bodybuilders. Today she was going to the ladies locker room and as she was entering, a trans male was following her in. This did not sit well with her. She stopped this person in their tracks and confronted them. She basically said “you aren’t going in there”. This person was over 6 ft and 180 lbs. My wife is 5’2″ and 130 lbs of pretty much solid muscle. He tried to push by her, insisting he had the right to enter based on his personal identity as a woman. She pushed back, and he grabbed her and tried to shove her out of the way. That was a mistake. One of her clients who is currently training for a competition came over and lifted this guy clean off his feet and said “don’t ever touch her again”. Then a loud verbal exchange ensued, and the manager who is a very petite woman that weighs about 115 lbs came out to get everything under control. My wife was not backing down from this guy and was really giving him the business. Her client had to hold her back. That made me laugh, because she’s hispanic and has a latin temper for sure.

Eventually the manager told the guy he had to leave the gym because he was disturbing the clientele, and causing a ruckus that was unacceptable. He said he was going to sue as my wife’s client escorted him out the door.

She went on and on about this for a while, and I just nodded, agreed with her, and told her she did all the right things.

MT Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 3:36 pm

Thank goodness I live in a corner of the world where this type of exchange is extremely unlikely. I have no doubt an attorney would find fault in how your wife conducted herself. However, you can tell her I think she kicks ass.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:43 pm

Since the trans person initiated the physical contact in front of witnesses, he physically assaulted her, and she could bring him up on charges. That will be her course of action. She is talking to our lawyer now, and I think we’re good.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 3:38 pm

I feel for gym owners since if they follow the law in a lot of states they have to let Trans into women’s safe spaces.
If they don’t then they get sued and have to spend money defending themselves. They are stuck in the middle.
I assume/hope that Florida has better/more logical laws that keep the mentally ill men out of ladies locker rooms.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 3:40 pm

DeSantis is in complete lockstep with Trump’s Executive Orders and agrees men have no business in women’s spaces. I think if this guy does sue, it won’t go anywhere.

KFEY93
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 4:08 pm

No that’s fine, no one noticed.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  KFEY93
12 November 2025 4:14 pm

Not sure what you’re saying, but there were a good 20 people in the gym, and they all noticed.

The gym called and said they were going to get statements from everyone in case this person sues. Our lawyer told my wife to have a police report done on the incident as well, to document the assault complaint. Guess what? We have a police officer who lives across the street. Too easy.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 6:08 pm

She should have kicked him in the nards and asked “do you still think you’re a female?”

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 6:54 pm

Women don’t have ‘nards’ and don’t react when kicked ‘there’??

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 7:30 pm

She might have said something like “how about I kick you in the nuts”… knowing her.

NoDakRube
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 2:02 pm

God was putting on quite the light show last night. Admittingly I slept through it.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 2:03 pm

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 2:22 pm

The Teacher went out last night to see ‘the lights’. Unfortunately trees and city lights prevented it. Not worth a drive to find a suitable locations to see them IMHO.

NoDakRube
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 2:25 pm

They will be strong in ND again tonight, I might have to kick my old man bedtime and go for a late night drive.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 2:56 pm

You may have to take a picture with your phone to see them. It’s weird, we could barely see them and my wife took a picture and it really showed up.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 3:13 pm

Same. Usually photos don’t do real life justice… like a sunset, for example. This seems to be the opposite, where the photo enhances things.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 3:52 pm

So what is the point??
Why would I want to take a picture of something that I can’t see?
I can find those on the internet if I wanted to.

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 3:53 pm

Like Sidney Sweeney’s (sp?) cleavage?

Why would I want to take a picture of something that I can’t see?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 4:07 pm
pirateflip
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 6:04 pm

Did you look later on in he night (around 10:30)? We could see them easily, and we’re not far from you.

bowbunch
Admin
12 November 2025 1:39 pm

JacksonVike
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 1:52 pm

I believe we were told we can’t compare JJ to any other QB in their first years, because he has never had to carry a team at any level.

I believe we were also told that a QB does not carry a team to a victory. It is the whole team that wins or loses.

DE Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 1:53 pm

It depends.
4th quarter game winning comebacks are allowed to count for one QB.
But nobody else.

JacksonVike
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 1:55 pm

But, only if they are comebacks. If it is a valiant effort but still lose, that is on the team.

DE Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 1:57 pm

Correct.
Throwing short on 4th & 8 is the teams fault, not the QB.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 2:15 pm

Yep, that was the one play that mattered all game, not dimes to receivers while getting killed because the o-line was garbage, not the defense giving up eleventy billion yards. That one single play defines him and the game, and it was all his fault he couldn’t keep up scoring with the other team that got to play a high school defense.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 2:17 pm

Rec’d for truthiness.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 2:21 pm

Admittedly, the situational awareness there is bad, but hoping the TE can break a tackle and get a first down isn’t entirely unreasonable.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 2:22 pm

Hock had been doing that a lot in the last few games that year….breaking tackles and getting yards…..I miss that version of Hock.

KFEY93
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 3:10 pm

No I’ll take the offense going 3 and out the offensive possession before that too, all of those plays define him too. …Clueless revisionist history here for a mid tier has-been QB. Sad.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 3:11 pm

No… you were never told that. You were told McCarthy has never carried an offense on his arm and brain, ever. That is a fact. It remains to be seen if he ever gets to a point where can complete 65% to 70% of his passes consistently, and beat defenses with his arm and his brain.

It is absolutely true that one guy does not win games. Teams win games, and teams win Championships. If your offense sucks, because your QB sucks, your team isn’t going to be good enough to win consistently.

Hopefully this corrects the record sufficiently and no one will ever misrepresent this commentary here again.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 6:13 pm

Depends on the narrative you’re pushing

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 1:57 pm

SUPERB OWL here we come, if not this year next year!

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 2:01 pm

Gotta give the kid time to develop. Unfortunately, the vets (like JJets) will get frustrated. We’ll see how it turns out.

MT Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 2:53 pm

How many games has Josh missed since entering the NFL, and how does that compare to McFragile™(hint I know the answer and it rhymes with whore)

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 6:14 pm

Less? Josh Allen has missed less?

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 6:12 pm

Then Allen hurdled Barr and got better and better, JJ needs a moment like that, and top keep improving his accuracy like Allen did

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 1:21 pm

I saw this…

Nobody knows what will become of Vikings QB J.J. McCarthy, but it’s clear the team didn’t plan on it being this rocky.

The Vikings organization (and fan hype) is partially to blame because they sold us “MythCarthy”.

It’s truly difficult to navigate winning now while developing a QB. The Vikings tried to thread a needle with both paths, but as of today, it doesn’t seem to be working.

The 2025 season isn’t dead, but it’s on life support and no room for error. A loss Sunday would pretty much be the nail in the coffin on playoffs.”

This may be a little too honest for folks to stomach, but I think it’s pretty spot on.

DE Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 1:55 pm

but it’s clear the team didn’t plan on it being this rocky.

Anybody that makes this statement and believes that a rookie QB isn’t going to have rocky games is uninformed and should be fired immediately from their NFL reporting job.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 3:05 pm

Yep. But here we are. The legend of McCarthy and his alter ego is the narrative being promoted. He will win Super Bowls… many, many Super Bowls… because he is so great, and he is a winner.

bowbunch
Admin
12 November 2025 1:16 pm

DE Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 1:18 pm

LOL…
Well, he wasn’t traded.
So I’m not sweating it.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 1:35 pm

Rec for truth.

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 1:04 pm

So our next 3 games are against the Bears, the Packers, and the Seahawks. If we win all three, then we’re still in the playoff hunt. If we lose all three, we’re probably done for the season.

Do or die time.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 1:06 pm

If they go 1-2 or 2-1?

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 1:22 pm

I think if we get to 7 losses the chances of a playoff spot are remote at best.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 1:34 pm

Good thing they’re going to win out then.

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 1:55 pm

JacksonVike
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 1:58 pm

With Lamar Jackson healthy, the Ravens are probably in the top three teams most likely to go to the superb owl. We lost to them by 1 score, in a very badly played game. There is a chance we win all but 1 or 2 games that we have left.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 2:18 pm

And this one!

MT Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 2:50 pm

LOL

JacksonVike
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 1:11 pm

I won’t be upset either way. If we make the playoffs, that means our young QB is starting to figure things out. If we don’t make the playoffs, I can say I never really expected us to, just as long as there is true improvement.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 2:04 pm

I’m thinking we get 2 wins. SKOL!

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
12 November 2025 2:15 pm

I’m hoping and thinking the same thing.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 11:21 am

Update on the ESPN/ABC/Disney vs YouTube TV spat.
We got a $20 rebate from YouTube TV to make up for all the sports programing that we have missed out on.

@That makes it all better@

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 2:49 pm

@because I am poor I got a $200 rebate@

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:25 pm

???
Not sure what point you are trying to make??

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 3:34 pm

Heh I’m just scrolling up through the comments (I didn’t get caught up until 1:45 pm) and had just progressed through the “because you are unsuccessful you get a $2000 tariff rebate, because you are successful you get nothing” thread and then came upon your comment. I too got a $20 rebate for same from youtube but made a sarcastic tongue in cheek comment that because I am poor I should get a larger rebate. ’tis the American way.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:43 pm

So you were replying to something completely different on my post?
Got it, continue as long as it makes sense to you. Just wanted to make sure I was not missing anything. Cause you know that happens often.

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 3:52 pm

BTW, I got a “free” mini starlink dish that can be used on the go…all I have to do is rent it for $5 a month and then pay for usage on the go when I actually utilize it. I love “free” things.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 11:05 am

Yep the Florida Turnpike is a lot like the autoban in Germany. 85 is about normal.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 12:34 pm

I think 85 mph is pretty normal most places in the US.
Our Interstate is 80 once you get out of town and 90 is pretty normal, often more.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 12:37 pm

Difference is probably where you live the folks actually know how to drive. Down here, sort of questionable.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 1:02 pm

Plus I expect that ‘wide open spaces’ go into the calculation. We have lots of that once you get out of town.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 11:16 am

That would be fun, I can never get my wife to spend the extra money for a fun car. It’s usually a POS American auto.

DE Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 11:47 am

JacksonVike’s ride !!

MT Viking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 2:49 pm

We rented a minivan in Arizona. That was a seriously sweet ride.

No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 10:11 am

When people talk about our excessive National debt, there is only one way we will ever pay it down and eliminate it. First you have to stop spending more money than you take in. You have to cut. Waste, fraud, and abuse has to be discovered and eliminated, and excessive spending on programs that are only there to generate a political “win” have to be cut out. So first, cut out deficit spending.

Second, you have to increase revenue. The Dems say “we have to tax the rich” for more revenue. They are really saying, we need more money to line our pockets, and achieve our political aims. Taxing the rich more though, doesn’t work out mathematically. So in the end they enact policies in back rooms to steal ever greater amounts of your money by taxing everything they can think of. For instance, climate change is only about finding ways to take more of your money. It’s that wolf in sheep’s clothing thing. We’re taxing you for climate change “for your own good, and the good of the planet”. But they can’t do anything about the climate and they don’t really care. All they want is the excuse to take more and more of your money. On the other hand, Trump is increasing revenue by bringing in $18T in new business (to date) that will create millions of new jobs, and of course bring in new revenue via all the new trade deals and tariffs. Instead of making people poorer, he’s making them more prosperous. He’s cutting, and cutting, and cutting, to put more money back in our pockets. He’s being fiscally brilliant.

Less spending, and more revenue. It’s a simple equation, but there are thousands of factors and variables to wade through to get there. Trump is doing that.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 10:29 am

When conservatives try to cut waste the woke/left/dems accuse them of ‘cutting off benefits of people who need them’. Since too many voters don’t pay enough attention to see the difference between ‘helping those that need it’ and ‘getting ripped off by fraudsters’.
Fake News assists in this so it has real effects during elections. Conservatives can’t make any changes if we lose elections so they have to walk a ‘tightrope’. Unless you are DJT of course, he doesn’t care just fix it.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 10:33 am

As I recall we now have 50% of people paying taxes and 50% pay none. And the percent paying is shrinking every year. This is simply not sustainable – not matter how much you cut, if you get to where like only 40% are paying taxes, we’re screwed.
Also, now I love conservatives, but we have our sacred cows too.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 10:48 am

This where bringing back all those jobs we lost overseas due to all the massive regulatory problems the politicians created, that drove businesses out of the country are important. Trump has now made it more fiscally viable to manufacture here in the U.S. rather than outside the U.S. Crown Royal moving here from Canada is a perfect example. They know where their market is, and where their bread is buttered. Same with almost every other business in the world. We are the consumers they need to thrive. So… here they come!

This will create millions of new taxpayers. Also, as Trump has said, tariffs can drive the tax bill way down by providing a little over a trillion dollars to our coffers every two years. He knows how to make money and he knows how to make a profit.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 10:56 am

Heard an alarming stat yesterday. 30% of college grads 21 – 30 are not working – living with Moma. They “feel” the jobs available are beneath their college degrees. Even though we know a lot of those degrees are worthless BS.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 11:08 am

And once they get those worthless degrees and can’t get a job to pay back their loans then they become ‘socialist’ and want the rest of us to support them after all of their bad choices.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 11:22 am

Being not that far out of that group, I don’t agree with that sentiment, but I can see where it comes from. We have been basically promising kids for the last 40 years that if they went to college they were going to make at least 100k a year. If you are told that your whole life, eventually you believe it. I don’t remember any of those conversations ever having a caveat of needing a certain degree. It was always simply, get a 4 year degree and you’ll make more. I think it’s not simply jobs being “beneath” somebody but also having to accept that what you have been told for the last 20-25 years was all a lie. I didn’t get a decent job after college for 2 years and I remember getting pretty frustrated waking up, looking at my degree hanging on the wall and going to a labor job every day. My only other option was to get a Master’s or PhD to hopefully get a job making what I already was. Eventually I got lucky and landed a job with my degree, realized I didn’t like it and left. Now, my degree field is relevant, but I wouldn’t say that I have my current career because of my degree or that much of what I learned is even relevant after nearly 20 years.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 11:25 am

‘I don’t remember any of those conversations ever having a caveat of needing a certain degree. It was always simply, get a 4 year degree and you’ll make more’

So you are saying ‘Logic’ needs to be explained or it is ‘not their fault’ and so now they are the ‘Victims’??

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 11:50 am

I think we need to start talking honestly to kids. About half of the kids that go to college shouldn’t. There is so many that go to college with no degree plan it’s ridiculous. What’s the first question almost every time when somebody meets a senior in high school? It’s not “what are you doing after high school”, it’s “where are you going to college?”. Personal responsibility is a little different for somebody who’s brain is still growing than for you or me. An 18 year old is going to believe what his parents, teachers and basically every adult in their life tells them and you are not going to simply erase 20 years of indoctrination by telling them too bad so sad. I think the whole conversation needs to change. Trade schools are not a bad thing. Hell, I think a lot of kids should just take a couple of years after high school and work whatever job they can until they have time to grow up a little and find out what they actually enjoy. There are too many people that not only end up with worthless degrees but way too many also who get a degree in something they enjoy as a kid and then by the time they’re 25 they realize it’s not what they want to do for the rest of their lives.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 11:55 am

Apprenticeships need to be publicized better as well. Too many colleges offer programs that get you nowhere and a kid could get further while making money than going to college. One example is electricians. Shoot, if a kid isn’t a total dunce, he could start working for us out of high school and probably be making $40-$50 / hour within 3 or 4 years and only have to work half the month.

JacksonVike
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 1:04 pm

My son asked me about going to school to be an electrician. I told him if he wants to go into that field to start right away and learn to be a manager, so when he is 50 he is just telling people what to do, not having to do all of the manual labor.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 1:20 pm

Skip the school and just start calling electricians and find somebody who will take him on as an apprentice. There is no benefit to school on that one.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 11:57 am

About half of the kids that go to college shouldn’t’

I think it depends on the career field. In the Army to get promoted you had to get a degree so I got my AA.
My Kids/Nieces/Nephews needed degrees to be qualified for their job choices lawyer/teacher/engineer/manager. Others who work more with your hands a degree is less required.
Employability is obvious factor, AI is going to effect degree requiring jobs much more than labor. And decent money can be made with a good labor job.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 12:04 pm

Yeah, unless it is a career choice along the lines of teacher, lawyer, doctor, then kids shouldn’t be going right into college out of high school. I’m guessing you got your AA after you’d already joined the Army and that would make obvious sense as well. Mostly when I’m talking about college, I’m talking about Bachelor and above.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 12:17 pm

Yes, I went to ‘night school’ after playing Army all day. It took me 10 years to meet all the requirements given time, classes offered, class schedule, family, etc.

The Teacher started going to collage in order to get her teaching degree once she figured her Ex couldn’t be relied on. It took her 6/7 years to go from ‘some collage’ thru AA to Bachelor thru Credentialing to Masters. And this was with 3 kids at the time and a ‘part time husband’.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 11:58 am

Wouldn’t argue with what you said here. but would add that ‘parenting’ is a big deal.
And secondly, and this comes from something I heard years ago, very few successful people ended up in a job they thought they would when they started out.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 12:07 pm

Yep, I just see so many who right to college because they don’t want to waste time getting successful, only to waste 4 years in college, maybe a couple more working in that field only to realize that isn’t your path and now you’re starting over at 25+. I’m just saying I think it would be better for some to wait, work after high school, have a better idea of where you truly want to go in life and then start college at 20, more determined and motivated.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 12:16 pm

Heck I’m for all kids spending two years in the military. If that’s too rugged or distasteful, two years in public service like the peace Corps or something.
Now, I’m not against someone floundering around for a while before one. finds himself. You mention 25, that was about the age I got my act together and got on the right path. And while I wouldn’t say it’s necessary, that floundering actually did me a lot of good in the long run.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 12:37 pm

Military obligation is required in many countries like Germany and Korea.
Service options are available to those who cannot handle the military.
It would be nice if we did that in the USA but it could never happen since Woke/Dims/Snowflakes heads would explode.

JacksonVike
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 1:01 pm

I didn’t go to college until I was 40. I could have gone at an earlier age, since I knew what I was wanting to go to school for. But, I had young kids that were in a lot of activities and I coached them in a lot of their sports. Once they were in high school I went to school.

I always had a career type job, where I could have done that type of work for the rest of my life. I only worked fast food type jobs while I was in between career paths.

It would definitely help kids to take a year to five years to try different career type jobs, whether it be manual labor or an office job to see what they truly enjoy doing and to see if they really need a 4 year degree to move up in that job.

NoDakRube
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 12:29 pm

Yes, agree about half the kids shouldn’t go to college.

But I think some kids show definitely…

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 1:05 pm

I went to a ‘college prep’ high school.
I think 2 or 3 graduates of my class went into the military, no idea how many of those left went to college vs straight to work, I suspect most went to University.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 11:39 am

I won’t go into what I did when I got out of the Army- simply, eating and having a place to sleep were important to me.
Now, my kids are all in their early thirties. When they went to college, and we were paying, there WAS no BS degrees. And the expectation was always once you graduate, you are going to work – even if you had to bag groceries for a while until something better came around.

MT Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 2:46 pm

FWIW I have never heard anyone say or admit they were told all they needed was to graduate from college to be more successful than their peers. Never. You’re suggesting a man is getting a BFA with a major in guitar stringing and thinks he will make at least 100K/year. Never.

JacksonVike
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 2:59 pm

I know I was told, as a high school student back in the early 90’s, that if you go to college and get a 4 year degree you will make more money than if you don’t go to college.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 3:00 pm

Ditto

MT Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 3:10 pm

Presuming this was a guidance counselor? My guidance counselor in the mid 80’s said where are your career interests here are potential fields of post secondary education here are the prerequisites to get into those programs here is the potential job market here is the potential pay.

I’ll repeat again, the US primary and secondary educational system and its minions the teachers is the most backward and poorly managed in the world. You should be ashamed.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:18 pm

We were repeatedly told in high school how much more people with a college degree would make compared to somebody without a college degree. You were expected to go to college, even if you didn’t have a degree or career path in mind.

MT Viking
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 3:48 pm

As I said, then your school, guidance counselor, teachers, and parents were extremely inept. You also own personal responsibility as you went right along with it.

I’m not a hand holder. An 18 year old should know better.

It’s part of a generational thing, where “kids” defined as post college age adults are more comfortable living in their parent’s basement than living on their own. And why wouldn’t they be? After all they get free internet, smart phone, room and board, etc…

Nonetheless I can assure you that I have never personally heard the mantra you were repeatedly told. Both my (step)kids were well aware that a BFA in metronome science was useless, they both have college degrees, work in their chosen field, and make well above median income. My grandkids have never said that they have been told just go to college and stick your dick in the sand and you’ll do well. I’ll go from there and say I have never encountered someone in the hospital from facilities through housekeeping nursing and APC’s that admits they were told that…nor have any of the tradespeople I encounter made that statement.

My two youngest grandkids go to West and Will James, respectively, so (if you were educated in District 2) that is not the message they are receiving currently.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:59 pm

I was told the same thing about ‘going to college’ in HS.
I realized that it didn’t make sense for me and went into the military to give me time to figure things out. I found I enjoyed the adventure and stayed in.
Then I went into fields that didn’t require a degree, like prison guard, that paid well. So suprisingly it all worked out for me. Don’t know that it would have if I had tried to got to college from HS.

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 4:16 pm

Good for you. Personal responsibility. There is hope!

You should seek out those who told you that (about college) and punch ’em in the nose.

(The latter is a fantasy I had, to go back to my high school after I put on some weight and confront Mr. McKee, the PE teacher that insisted on stuffing the skinny gangly 6′ kid that was a year younger than his peers on the offensive line in football or opposite the 18 year old tenth grader in hockey.)

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 4:23 pm

It is my life so I get to make choices about it. Of course then I reap the consequences of those choices good or bad.
I told my kids the same thing, I can give advice but it is your life and you get to choose how to live it even if I disagree.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 6:37 pm

Minnesota education. My chosen career path requires a degree either way and I have no regrets personally. I got to do what most would consider a dream job for a few years, realized it wasn’t for me and went a different, somewhat related route. It has worked out fine for me and I make well above the median, mostly from hard work and application of my knowledge and abilities more than having a degree though. Sounds like your grandkids are neighbors of mine. My wife almost got to do her student teaching at Will James but ended up in Lockwood.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 10:55 am

Yeah, I don’t know how I feel about that. It seems taxing some and not others is legal discrimination. Why should I be taxed more because I worked by a** off and got a high paying job, when others are simply lazy or unqualified and make little? Why do we have to subsidize laziness and incompetence?

Now, I am all for helping the needy/less fortunate if desired – donations to church to help people is different, because it’s not required to do.

I still think there should be a flat tax for everyone – everyone treated the same. No DEI, no discrimination, just everyone the same.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 11:03 am

We had a vote last Tuesday on a referendum to add a 25% property tax on houses valued over $200,000, in order to get the local schools out of the red. I voted no, simply because it was an unjust tax. Had they said it would raise property tax for everyone, I probably would have voted yes. The other issue I have is how the school spends the taxpayers money.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 11:21 am

Yep, they spend like they have no limits and they make mistakes when building/expanding stuff, and just cover it up with more spending. There is really no limit to their waste, and then they just ask for/take more money from everyone for unjustified stuff.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 12:49 pm

I feel bad for the administration, because a lot of the added costs are brought on by the state government. I have a lot of friends that are teachers and they are upset because their already over crowded classes are going to become even more overcrowded.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 1:04 pm

Yeah, that part sucks. But when you hear they make easily-avoidable construction/planning mistakes, that then cost an extra $50,000+, that is frustrating.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 1:14 pm

Yes, our previous Superintendent did some really funky bookkeeping. I know he resigned (was let go) from his previous job because of some sort of fraud allegations. So there is a good chance he may have left with more in his pocket book then he should have.

MT Viking
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 2:42 pm

Flat tax yes please

NoDakRube
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:35 pm

amen.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:47 pm

There simply shouldn’t be different laws for different people in society. I thought nowadays we were all for equality? Then tax everyone the same.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 12:50 pm

Even an idiot knows this

First you have to stop spending more money than you take in

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 1:00 pm

Lots of Idiots don’t know this, especially in the Government.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 1:04 pm

They know it, they just don’t give a shit because it’s not their money

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 1:34 pm

And they will be out of office when the bills come due so they are ‘allie-ollie oxen free’.

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 1:00 pm

No they don’t.
They keep spending more than they take in.

MT Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 2:48 pm

Deficit spending will never go away.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:01 pm

Well it has to. We’ve spent more than we brought in for many, many decades and now we’re $38T in debt. There will come a time when the debt crushes the country unless it stops. Trump is working on building a GDP that is large enough to overcome the debt in time. All the work he has done in bringing in new business (by the trillions) is so we can achieve this. It’s a practical, pragmatic, and prudent path to success.

JacksonVike
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 3:03 pm

Yet, when a democrat or moderate Republican gets elected, they will tear down everything he has done. Simply because it was done by Donald Trump.

MT Viking
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 3:06 pm

Wake me up when it happens. We are such stuff as dreams are made on; and our little life is rounded with a sleep.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:13 pm

Trump has the ship turning around and correcting course. He is a strong enough leader to get us fully on the road to recovery by the end of his Presidency. The Dem’s will fight him tooth and nail, but they can’t stop him. Just watch.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 9:56 am

An ‘Almost MT Length’ post.
Yesterday was Veterans Day, So per our new tradition The Teacher and I went out to a restaurant that supported Vets and offered free meals. This year we picked Applebees. When we got there there were a few people waiting to be seated, all families/couples that included an older Vet.
We ordered (not off of the Free Vets Menu) and talked to the waitress. She said Veterans Day was like their Super Bowl and all of the staff looked forward to it. By the time we finished eating there was more than a dozen groups waiting to be seated, all of them included a Vet. We left a large tip for the staff and explained to the waitress that we wanted to thank them for their support.
On the way home we stopped by Chipotle, lots of Vets picking up food there. We got a ‘To Go’ order for tonights dinner and I dropped an extra amount in the tip jar and thanked the cashier for supporting Vets.
I don’t ‘need’ the free meals but I wanted to support business that offered them. So we paid full price and left a large tip for the staff at both places. There are a lot more Vets around here taking advantage of the specials than there were in SoCal although the Air Base was closer there. Interesting.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 10:10 am

Those are extremely thoughtful gestures on your part. Makes me think I should have done something.
Anyway, good for you and your wife!

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 10:15 am

It has evolved.
The first year we did it I ordered a regular meal but the manager came to our table to let me know he ‘comp-ed’ my meal. I explained that I didn’t need that I just wanted to support the restaurant. He said he was a Vet himself and he was proud that his company offered extra to Vets, so my meal was free.

I got even by leaving an extra large tip, that ought to learn them. #smile

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 10:12 am

Nice job SoCal. You’re a good man.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 10:18 am

I am just a ‘man’ who tries to logical things, things that make sense to me.
Sometimes that comes out as ‘good’.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 10:49 am

One of the many reasons I like exchanging thoughts and perspectives with you. I feel the same way. I’m just a guy, trying to do what’s right.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 11:01 am

I have learned that I often see issues a bit differently than the ‘norm’. Not necessarily more correctly.
I like to think of it as coming at issues ‘obliquely’ instead of head on. It makes for interesting discussions and I have noticed that many of my kids/nieces/nephews have some of the same tendencies.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 11:06 am

You and NLV are hardly just “guys.”

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JRobert
12 November 2025 11:16 am

Well I, at least, don’t qualify/identify as a ‘gal’ so I don’t know what other options there are out there.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 11:23 am

Gender is just a fluid social construct, so just wait and your feelings might change.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 11:27 am

‘your feelings might change’

This ‘old dog’ is too old to learn any new tricks.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 10:59 am

I will have to look to see if any local restaurants offer this in my area. I will definitely do the same.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 11:04 am

I did a quick internets search and found dozens of such business this veterans day. Most I have never heard of or are not local, but there several ones that I could easily support.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 11:05 am

We don’t have a lot of national chain restaurants in our area. I may have to call some of the locally owned places and see if they offer free meals.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 11:06 am

They’ll usually put that information on their BookFace pages.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  bowbunch
12 November 2025 11:10 am

I ignore ‘bookface’ like the plague but I am glad the information can be found in more places.

bowbunch
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 11:14 am

So do I, but it can be useful at times. I don’t go on there regularly though, but most small businesses don’t have much for websites anymore and just use FartBook.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 11:14 am

It is a Veterans Day thing for the most part.
In the absence of that option maybe a donation to an ‘Out Reach Organization’ could work. I don’t want to claim to have all the solutions, just wanted to share one that worked for me.

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 2:41 pm

@25 cents is not a large tip@

NoDakRube
12 November 2025 8:51 am

So, IF the Biden administration had issued a 2,000 dollar extra tax on everyone making over 100,000 dollars there would have been much gnashing of teeth and cries of socialism coming from this site.

However, President Trump institutes new tariffs which cost the average family over 2,000 dollars this year – and then gives 2,000 dollars back to every family making under 100,000 dollars and we are all fine with that?

We are either hypocrites or we are easily fooled.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 8:55 am

Or neither. Peel the onion back some and look at the reasoning behind each scenario.

JacksonVike
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 8:56 am

My opinion of the difference in your scenario is, we don’t know what the $2000 tax, by Biden, would be used on. I am a firm believer in tariffs, if we can bring manufacturing back to the USA, it benefits everyone in the long run.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 9:01 am

Oh, I am a believer in tariffs as well….not so much in the 2,000 dollar wealth re-distribution aspect of these tariffs.

NoDakRube
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 9:02 am

In other words, don’t give anybody any money back and use it all to pay down our debt….the poor get enough freebies.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 9:07 am

No one, either party, is going to use “excess” to pay down debt. It will never happen.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 10:44 am

It certainly does!

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 9:32 am

I prefer tariff money pays down the debt. But politicians love buying votrz

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  PA Viking Fan
12 November 2025 9:36 am

Yup.
It is more a political than financial move.

JacksonVike
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 9:47 am

I don’t agree with the payback either. Even if it were going to everyone, I wouldn’t like it.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 9:50 am

Well NoDak, the singular difference here is Biden would rob Peter to pay Peter with his own money (tax dollars) and Trump is taking revenue being generated by intelligent economic policies and processes (tariffs) to help out folks ravaged by all the fiscal irresponsibility, fraud, waste, and abuse of our stupid, and purposely corrupt politicians. They have spent Trillions of our tax dollars over the years lining their own pockets, and serving their own political needs. It’s a true travesty of the public trust. The DOGE team has uncovered hundreds of billions of dollars the Dem’s have pocketed through their corrupt NGO money laundering schemes. Trump is trying to fix those things, and eliminate the Dem’s ability to steal our money. In the meantime Biden wrecked our economy and drove costs way up in just four years. So Trump says “I’m bringing in hundreds of Billions of dollars with tariffs. Let’s share some of this new revenue with the folks our crooked politicians have robbed blind for decades.”

Trump is working overtime to make this country prosperous again, and share that new prosperity with the people who have been raped and pillaged by the crooked politicians in Washington.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  No longer New Vikings Fan
12 November 2025 9:57 am

Math (finances) is hard.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 10:22 am

Do you somehow believe that the replacements would be any better??

HUNViking
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 10:26 am

I think it’s all bullshit.

None of these politicians give a damn.

Agreed. It’s a big club, and they are ALL in it.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 10:47 am

However, President Trump institutes new tariffs which cost the average family over 2,000 dollars this year 

What’s your source on this?
Democrats or a media think tank?

First, I’ll believe it when I see it.

But it should go to pay down the national debt.
Since that will never happen, I’ll take a few thousand dollars and give it to my kids, since the national debt burden will fall on them more than me.

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 11:00 am

Tariffs are estimated to have cost the average American family approximately $2,400 in 2025, according to analyses from The Budget Lab at Yale and others. This cost stems from higher consumer prices due to increased import taxes, which are passed on through the supply chain. 

  • Cost breakdown: The $2,400 estimate represents an increase in the consumer price level of about 1.8% in the short term, notes The Hill.
  • How it’s passed on: The cost is transferred to consumers through higher prices on a wide range of goods, including apparel, electronics, and household products.
DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 11:02 am

Yale.
Yeah, these are the people the said Tariffs would cause runaway inflation.
Then, they said it would cause a recession.

I don’t believe the “experts” on this.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 11:08 am

Bet me to it. Anything coming from an Ivy is biased and suspect.

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 11:11 am

Haha yep, “Yale” and “The Hill” are both hard left, democratic jokes. Untrustworthy, to say the least.

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 11:31 am

Do you like this one better? or is it also biased?

The Trump tariffs imposed and scheduled as of Nov. 1 will cost the average U.S. household $1,200, according to a new report from the Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan nonprofit focused on tax policy. In 2026, that figure will rise to $1,600. 

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 11:52 am

Nope.
Nonpartisan my ass.

They are the same types of people pumping out the same studies using the same failed assumptions.

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 11:57 am

Well, the point is there are no economists who believe Trumps tariffs are not costing the average family something. You can disagree over the amounts if you want. But couple that with the fact that Trump is taking money that was obtained from an indirect tax on the American people and giving some of it back to “poor people” This is wealth redistribution pure and simple….and it sucks whether it is coming from a Republican or a Democrate.

Show me your study that shows it hasn’t cost the American family anything…..I don’t care how right leaning your source might be….I will wait.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 1:05 pm

I’m not saying there isn’t an increased cost.

But to calculate it based on pre-determined biased assumptions and assume it’s factually true, is a mistake.

My bank account is bigger than last year.
So I haven’t seen any proven tariff cost to me.

JacksonVike
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 1:08 pm

Tariffs are not a short term solution. I know everyone gets all up in arms over trickle down economy, but if you want tariffs to work you have to be willing to make a few sacrifices in the short term. Yes, they will cost the average family more money, but if we stick to the tariffs, the tax reductions in a few years should counter act the cost of tariffs. They should also bring more work back to the US and the people on unemployment or welfare should be able to get good paying jobs.

DE Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 1:16 pm

How come there has been zero talk about European or Asian tariffs increasing costs on Americans over the last 3 decades?

Yet when Trump does it, somehow now Tariffs are bad policy and increase costs.

JacksonVike
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 1:26 pm

The only reason I can come up with is “Orange man bad”.

JacksonVike
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 1:28 pm

The company I work for built a factory in Brazil a few years ago, because their tariffs are at 50% on imported products, if not higher.

But that will never happen here, we’ll just keep buying the crappy product from China, that will now cost the same or more than a good product made in the USA.

DE Viking
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 2:07 pm

There have been trillions in new commitments for companies to build here.
But I have no idea if that will really happen.

JacksonVike
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 3:00 pm

I doubt it ever will because in 2028, we will elect a democrat and he/she will get rid of the tariffs.

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 2:00 pm

I have never said Tariffs are bad policy….I just push back against the wealth redistribution part of it, which he does not have to do.

DE Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 2:04 pm

I have never said Tariffs are bad policy

You said it is proven to cost Americans more money. Siting sources about it being bad for the American Consumer.

I don’t think it can be proven to be true and it only matters now because Trump is doing it. Foreign nations have increased tariffs on American consumers for decades and not a peep or vast study of how much it costs.

NoDakRube
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 2:21 pm

Just because something costs Americans more money doesn’t mean its bad policy….See World War 1, World War 2, etc.

I do not think Tariffs are bad policy, but I do think they are costing American families money.

MT Viking
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 2:34 pm

Maybe I’m dumb, but the importer of record is the one who pays the tariffs, right? So if a European company is charging tariffs on imported US goods, you are suggesting that rather than the importer of record, it is the American consumer that pays the tariffs?

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:32 pm

it is the American consumer that pays the tariffs’

Only if you buying expensive overseas products.

MT Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 3:50 pm

As I said, maybe I’m confused, but DE is implying that American CONSUMERS have borne the burden of foreign nations increasing tariffs on American consumer for decades and not a peep of how much it costs.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 4:29 pm

So we agree??

#grin

MT Viking
Reply to  NoDakRube
12 November 2025 2:37 pm

I’m going to support you (NoDakRube) on this one. If they actually pull off a $2000 rebate secondary to tariffs yet don’t extend it to certain taxpayers because they make “too much”, that is another form of progressive taxation, just like the Biden bucks during the pandemic…I do not support that one bit. I already pay a progressive income tax.

NoDakRube
Reply to  MT Viking
12 November 2025 3:38 pm

Thank you.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  DE Viking
12 November 2025 11:03 am

Your last sentence says it all – our kids are getting screwed.

Wrenage
12 November 2025 8:48 am

This made me laugh. So many little details. I like the way the catcher set up way outside on the second pitch to try to play peacemaker, and Johnson just ignores it.

KFEY93
12 November 2025 8:30 am

Got the snowblower out to give it a test run so its ready when the snow flys. Started on one pull and ran like a champ. Looks like I did storage and prep right last spring.

JacksonVike
Reply to  KFEY93
12 November 2025 8:44 am

It’s nice when everything is put away nicely and it works out the next season. I always tell myself it may snow, or I may need to mow the lawn one more time, and then never do and I forget to seasonize it. I am going to mow up the leaves this weekend and winterize the mower. At least that is the plan.

KFEY93
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 9:05 am

The trees in my back yard don’t fully drop their leaves until the end of November which sucks because by then its too cold /there’s already snow on the ground. Id like to pick up what’s there one more time before the weekend because I wont have time this weekend with Deer hunting again. Mildly frustrating.

KFEY93
Reply to  Gone fishin'
12 November 2025 11:01 am

You got it! Get er humming! Winter is coming

Wrenage
12 November 2025 8:21 am

SKOLOHOLICS PICK EM AND SURVIVAL LEAGUE UPDATE #10

The high scorer in Pick ‘Em this week was yours truly. I would like to brag about my big brain, but I had a difficult time picking the games this week, finally said screw it, and just assigned confidence points willy-nilly to approximately six games.

Low and behold, it worked!

PA and DE tied for second place and ManlyPurple came in third.

Overall, Bow and Little Fishin’ are at the bottom. They have missed some weeks. Every now and then one hears a legend about Freezy, but no one knows if such a player ever existed anymore…

JacksonVike is stuck in no man’s land by himself. He needs to made a deal with Vegas to kneecap a few of the players above him. That will get him caught up quick.

Then things become pretty cramped. Surly, DE, Me, Let’s Fish, Lasallegrouse and PA are all within 15 points of each other. Likewise, NoDak and Kirko are not much further ahead and within four points of each other. ManlyPurple remains at the top with a fairly comfortable lead this week. Goodall will likely tell him to take a dive this week to keep the advertisers happy.

Everyone got the Denver, Indy, Seahawks and Detroit games right. Everyone got the Panthers wrong, and Buffalo tagged everyone. Ultimately, everyone getting the Buffalo game didn’t do a huge amount of damage, though, because everyone took them for high confidence points.

Iconoclast Picks go to NoDak for taking the Giants over the Bears and Surly for taking the Packers over the Eagles. Genius Picks go to ManlyPurple for being the only one to take the Patriots over the Bus. I am also giving Genuis Picks to me and Let’s Fish for taking the Jets over the Browns. If the Jets can put up 39 points to overcome Zombie Flacco, they can, theoretically, beat anyone.

Traitor Picks go to me, PA, DE, Surly and Kirko for taking the Ravens over Vikings. That was a close one for me. I picked the Vikings to win, had a sudden moment of clarity about ten minutes before the game and changed it quickly.

In Survival League, another has fallen. Let’s Fish is out. The Panthers burned him. Only ManlyPurple, PA and DE remain.

GET YOUR PICKS IN BEFORE THE THURSDAY NIGHT GAME!

JacksonVike
Reply to  Wrenage
12 November 2025 8:43 am

I put 12 confidence points on the Vikes vs. Bores, this week.

#nojinx

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 9:38 am

Rec for the proper use of #nojinx.

JacksonVike
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 9:49 am

It’s the little things that make the most difference.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 9:58 am

I don’t like to talk about my ‘little thing’.

#grin

NoDakRube
Reply to  Wrenage
12 November 2025 8:45 am

For the first time all year I am going straight chalk this weekend…..likely means there will be lots and lots of upsets.

JacksonVike
Reply to  Wrenage
12 November 2025 8:45 am

I will admit, I didn’t put much thought into my picks after the Steelers game. Became very dis-interested in football for a few weeks, can’t remember why though.

manly-purple
Reply to  Wrenage
12 November 2025 10:25 am

ManlyPurple remains at the top with a fairly comfortable lead this week. Goodall will likely tell him to take a dive this week to keep the advertisers happy.



FloridaSKOL
12 November 2025 7:15 am

Good morning, SKOL!

FTP!

FTB!

VikingPhilip
12 November 2025 6:30 am

I will be at a conference all day. Hopefully everyone has a great day. Our new roof was put on yesterday and the new gutters are going on today. I feel poor.

PA Viking Fan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
12 November 2025 6:35 am

We did a new roof last year. We also converted 2 old skylights to dormer windows. Home insurance dropped 30%

CHA-CHING!!!!

Surly Viking
Admin
12 November 2025 6:15 am

GM!
FTP!
SKOL!

JacksonVike
12 November 2025 6:09 am

Happy Wednesday,

FTP

FTB

Skol

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 10:01 am

Good Gif is Good.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
12 November 2025 1:04 pm

Peter Pan peanut butter is better than Jif

JRo_42
JRo_42
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 1:56 pm

I prefer Skippy.

JacksonVike
Reply to  JRo_42
12 November 2025 2:05 pm

Skippy extra crunchy is where it is at.

No longer New Vikings Fan
Reply to  JacksonVike
12 November 2025 2:56 pm

My personal choice, for sure.

FloridaSKOL
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 2:00 pm

Disagree. Creamy Jif is better.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 2:20 pm

Whatever is cheaper is the best one.
Just don’t give me that ‘unstirred’ stuff.
And of course it has to be ‘chunky’.

benjammin
Admin
12 November 2025 6:04 am

1nd! FTP?

I think the Vikings just got called for another false start

JacksonVike
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 8:53 am

1rd auto rec

and FTP auto rec

HUNViking
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 9:27 am

1nd & FTP auto rec

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
12 November 2025 9:39 am

FTP Auto Rec.

About The Author

Gone fishin'

Gone fishin'

I'm a dad, husband, Army vet, believer, and a die-hard, life-long Vikings fan from the great state of North Dakota. I've been a Viking fan dating back to 1980, I've been covering the Vikings for nearly a decade, and I founded Skoloholics in 2022. I work in real estate and property management, I love spending time with family, working in the yard, doing anything in the outdoors, and as you can tell from my username, I love fishing. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!

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