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Hump day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy birthday, Mrs. Fishin’!
Hey, a special happy birthday to my wife today. She’s been married to me for over 14 years now, and she still manages to stay mostly sane and she’s somehow still alive and well. I’m guessing she’s a lock to make sainthood some day. Happy birthday, many more to come! I got her a present, but she might read this, so I’m not telling you what I got. I’ll share a picture tomorrow.
It’s also Packers week! I hate the Packers with a burning passion, a win on Sunday will make me forget all the offensive headaches the Vikings have had all year. It’s a noon kickoff on Sunday, let’s hope the Vikings can continue the success they’ve have in Lambeau in recent years.
Vikings and NFL News
Vikings.com looks at where the Vikings sit in the playoff picture as we head into week 12, and they also look at how far the Vikings slid in the power rankings after Sunday’s loss.
C.J. Stroud will miss his third straight game with a concussion, Davis Mills will be under center for the Texans, per NFL.com.
From ESPN, Aaron Rodgers will NOT need surgery and his status is TBD, according to Mike Tomlin.
CBS Sports looks at a GM who may be on the hot seat. Hint: it’s the same GM who signed a former Vikings QB to a high-priced contract in free agency a year or two ago.
Media Selection
I’ve played this many times going way back to the DN days, and it’s still one of my favorite funny videos of all time. This dude went back to the store for just ONE MORE 12 pack, he really needed a couple more beers.
Watching this makes me grateful that there weren’t video cameras everywhere back when I was young, wild, and crazy.
Enjoy!
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I had this scheduled to post tomorrow morning. Oops.
Cue the “Flacco to Minnesota” rumors.
Green Bay’s injury list looks more like their roster list.
https://www.vikings.com/news/green-bay-packers-injury-report-week-12-2025
As long as the refs are healthy, the puke will be fine.
I guess we are stuck on Wednesday.
It is Deja Vu all over again.
I had the thread ready, I just scheduled it for the wrong day. It’s up now.
When I met Mrs. Fishin’, she was a very nice, delightful person. She deserves better.
‘She deserves better’
I suspect that is true of most, if not all, of our wives.
A federal grand jury in Miami indicted Congresswoman Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, D-FL, and several co-defendants with stealing federal disaster funds, laundering the proceeds, and using the money to support her 2021 congressional campaign.
Court records say that Cherfilus-McCormick, 46, and her brother Edwin Cherfilus, 51, both of Miramar, worked through their family health-care company on a FEMA-funded COVID-19 vaccination staffing contract in 2021. In July 2021, the company received an overpayment of $5 million in FEMA funds.
This woman and her brother need to go to jail.
Lock her up!
Just a normal Dim doing normal Dim stuff.
Nothing to see here.
For you hockey type people.
This injury sounds almost as bad as a random football player injuring himself kicking in a window when locked out of an apartment.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/panthers-bid-third-straight-title-takes-another-hit-player-burns-himself-barbecuing-mishap
First day of practice injury status…
Greenard is a big missing piece but the D held the Bores to 19 despite the TOP differential and no help from the O until the last 5 minutes.
Well been out and I see I missed the discussion on being an “ass.”
To bad, it it a subject I am well versed in and have great experience with.
Many of us have real life experience with that topic.
Snowflakes we are not, for the most part.
So what do you think of Democrat Lawmakers encouraging service member to refuse the Trump Admins orders. They contend that those are Illegal Orders and the UCMJ allows/demands that those be refused.
Personally I think that would be a great way to identify woke members of the military and process them out. TDS is a mental illness and should be a disqualification for service. We have people lined up to join currently so no reason to keep the woke in uniform.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/us/politics/democratic-lawmakers-illegal-orders.html
Seems to me like if you disobey a direct order that is pretty much grounds for court martial and removal, is it not?
I do not know because I was unable to serve in the Military due to my deformed foot…although I likely would not have served anyway truth be told.
There are allowances for disobeying orders if they are unlawful, unethical, or immoral. However, you cannot disobey an order because you disagree with its premise. That is punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) Article 92. Article 94 also covers mutiny and sedition, and that could apply too.
If you are ordered to shoot unarmed civilians for political reason you could refuse based on ‘illegal orders’.
If you choose to disobey an order cause you think Illegal Aliens should be allowed to stay in the US because they are ‘neighbors’ then not so much.
The use of lethal force is strictly controlled under the UCMJ. No military member is going to ever shoot anyone unless they are protecting themselves or others from bodily harm. The premise of this concern is completely and utterly baseless, unfounded, and inane.
It was clarified after the Vietnam War and Kent State and the My Lai Massacre.
Currently there is very little conflict about the use of force and Illegal Orders.
Yep… yet here we are with the Dems voicing this to create dissension and sow the seeds of rebellion within the ranks. There is nothing they will not stoop to in order to garner power.
One of the Congressmen, a Vet, explained they they were ‘just explaining to the troops about the requirements under the UCMJ’. When asked what orders or laws they were referring to he referenced DJT comments about ‘going to war’ with Blue City Governments’. So the Fox commentator said ‘so no specific order or law, just comments?’.
He went on to accuse her of ‘demeaning our troops’ because they would understand that it was just a reminder. He sounded like an idiot with Stage 4 TDS.
These politicians are so disingenuous. Nothing they say is rational, reasonable or remotely salient. They are only focused on debasing Trump, and doing everything they can to impede him. Must stop Trump from doing good. Must stop Trump from being great. Must stop Trump from making America great again.
They remind me of one of my favorite phrases when dealing with an idiot or con-man.
‘Are you that stupid that you believe that or are you just hoping that I am so stupid that I would believe you?’
Perfect
Name the last time a democrat was held accountable or put in jail for anything.
So this is disturbing and may also be treason. Purposefully attempting to undermine the good order and disciple of the military, via sedition could land you in jail. 18 USC Ch. 115: Treason, Sedition, and Subversive Activities could be used top prosecute anyone who encourages the U.S. Military members to violate their oath of service.
Like I said above: name the last time a democrat was held accountable or put in jail for anything.
America’s Official Drinking Recommendations Getting Major Overhaul | Watch
YES!!! Not that I was especially good at following the old guidelines.
Between that overhaul and the Hemp based THC legislation they just added outlawing my seltzers , it really, REALLY looks like the booze companies have purchased the administration.
I hate politics.
Cheers!!!!
Guidelines are meant to be broken
We had a discussion a week or so about Property Taxes. We just got our bill and we got a state ‘homeowners tax credit’ for $350. That reduced our bill down to $1600 for the year. It was reduced last year and again this year even before the ‘tax credit’.
I love no longer being ‘Commifornia’ where they tax you more so they can fund all their woke agenda which are all just cover so they can steal more money faster.
Congratulations on your move to sanity.
I compete with my Son in Bismarck over which state has the best rules/laws.
ND might be a bit better but our weather is more good-er.
#grin
Your weather is definitely good-er – No Doubt!
As a SoCal boy I cannot survive NoDak winters.
Even being toughened by my Army/Prison Guard careers is not enough to make up the difference.
You need more toughening up!!
Let me think about that NO!
Our property taxes suck
Our property taxes were over 6k this year, and they are going up. We are in a starter home development with 30 year old homes. 500k is the estimated value of our place.
That tax rate is shit, and they just passed yet another school referendum.
The County estimates our house/property at over $400k but then there is a ‘homeowner exemption’ drops that to $275k for tax purposes.
Damn, I’m jealous.
I know it is not Tuesday, but I am honestly curious about what happens to Kirko the rest of this season and into next.
I expect him to look better than Penix has. I also expect Penix to not be back until October at the earliest. ATL needs a QB, and if they keep Kirko on the roster at the start of the season, his contract will be fully guaranteed. Getting that 190 mil vs only the paltry 100 mil….
Contract value: $180$ 180
$180 million over four years.
Guaranteed money: $100$ 100
$100 million, with $90$ 90
$90 million guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2024 and 2025 salary).
Signing bonus: $50$ 50
$50 million.
2025 salary: $27.5$ 27.5
$27.5 million, which is fully guaranteed.2025 cap hit: $40$ 40
$40 million.2026 roster bonus: $10$ 10
$10 million, which was fully guaranteed in March 2025.2026 cap hit: $57.5$ 57.5
$57.5 million if no restructuring occurs.Contract termination: The Falcons have an option to get out of the deal after the 2026 season.
Even if he plays like Tom Brady the rest. of the year and they win every game, he will be gone.
That organization is complete trash and has no idea what they are doing.
And don’t worry, with their receivers there is no way in hell he is going to play like Brady. Hell, Brady couldn’t even play like Brady there.
You are probably correct.
So, if Kirk is released, he will once again be in demand as a free agent.
His agent must be salivating…..
If he is released, prior to the 5th day of the league year, the Falcons take a $35 million cap hit I believe. If it is after that, $75 million.
They’re missing their starting Left Guard, and Left Tackle (on IR) and two other O-linemen on IR, plus the replacement LG is questionable. London is injured and is probably out a few weeks too, so yeah, gonna be tough. That said, Cousins won’t use any of that as an excuse. He will go out and lead the offense, and try to make plays. That type of leadership is what the Falcons offense and team overall needs. Someone who stands up and faces adversity.
The defense has a ton of injuries and guys out too. This is a team in very bad shape, physically.
I think it’s too big a hill to climb at this point, but I hope Cousins can find a way to play well.
Yes, with all of those injuries Cousin is going to get killed. I hope he does well.
Kirk is going to die
Not sure I see the same thing. Cupboard is exactly bare in ATL:
Drake London is currently top 10 in catches, yards and TD’s.
Bijan Robinson a complete 3 down back who catches well out of the backfield.
Kyle Pitts & Darnell Mooney – Maybe washed, maybe not – but have shown flashes of talent and production in the past.
Agree the coaching is dogshit – but I think there’s enough talent for Kirko to work with.
* provided everbody isn’t injured. Don’t know many QB’s that can win with a M*A*S*H unit…..
London has a knee injury, so I think he’s out. Bijan is a great back, but as we know, without a good line, he is gonna be limited. Pitts has dropped a ton of passes, and dropped a perfect throw right in his chest over the middle, with nothing but green grass ahead of him from Cousins Sunday. Mooney has also dropped a bunch of passes this year, and I read on twitter that Morris recently revealed he had broken his collar bone earlier in the year, and it was still bothering him. Why no one knew Mooney had broken his collar bone in practice is still a mystery.
Morris may be the NFL’s worst head coach, and Zac Robinson may be the NFL’s worst OC, but Cousins still has to go out there and lead the team. No excuses. Just play as hard as you can.
Alright so, when Trump said “Quiet Piggy” to the Female ABC Reporter, do we think that helped his popularity with women and Independents? Do we think that kind of behavior helps the Republicans chances of remaining in power after the Mid-Terms?
I am just a rube from North Dakota so I just don’t know.
It’s who he is. A rude P.O.S. An 80 year old man, the president, who still name calls. I learned at a very young age that if you don’t have nothing nice to say, don’t say it.
He’s not rude… he’s assertive and honest. The press has lied about him for decades. Real lies, real defamatory commentary. So he tells them the truth. They’re liars, they’re terrible, horrible people. If you can’t handle that, too bad.
Rude, sure. But one of the very few people that has ever seemed to actually fight for the country’s and citizens’ best interest, and not just be a politician looking to get rich and line their own pockets.
Rec for Truth.
NY Businessmen are not known for how polite they are.
I would much rather have an ‘effective’ a-hole than a mealy mouthed, politician who told everyone what he/she thought they wanted to hear.
Good or bad no one has to guess where DJT stands or thinks about an issue. He is on TV every day explaining it.
Trump is plain spoken, and he is direct. He doesn’t mince words. He tells it like it is. I guess from a human nature perspective, the question is how does that resonate with most people? I know there are plenty of overly sensitive types in the world that will take offense to anything they perceive as insulting or belittling, but to the vast majority of the people in the world, does this very authentic and openly assertive personality type work?
Well, she is not a piggy, she is fairly attractive – so I would say he is a liar….even if she were an ugly fat pig his comment is still rude and unnecessary.
Miss Piggy was attractive for a Muppet.
I heard she was a squealer between the sheets.
Gives more meaning to “Makin’ Bacon!”
I watched the Press Conference in real time and I didn’t hear the ‘piggy comment’. I did hear him call her a ‘Terrible Person’ which I think is a worse insult. I don’t know the woman so I cannot comment on what type of person she is.
I do know that she was sent in to ask aggressive questions and get headlines. She was borderline rude and she got the response she and her network wanted.
She did what she was paid to do so I don’t feel sorry for her. His comment was directed at her behavior not her looks.
So I researched this, as I wasn’t aware of the comment either.
Trump did say “quiet, piggy” to a female reporter during a press gaggle aboard Air Force One on November 14, 2025. The incident involved Bloomberg reporter Catherine Lucey, who was asking a follow-up question about the Jeffrey Epstein files—specifically, why Trump wouldn’t release them if there’s nothing incriminating. As she began speaking (“If there’s nothing incriminating in the files, sir, why not…”), Trump pointed at her and interrupted with “Quiet. Quiet, piggy” in a sing-song tone before turning to another reporter.
This moment was captured in White House-released video footage and has since gone viral, drawing widespread criticism for being unprofessional, and sexist (women can act out but if you challenge them, it’s sexist). The White House defended it by calling the reporter “unprofessional and tacky” for interrupting, but of course the backlash focused on Trump’s response and the lack of pushback from other journalists present. This particular reporter has been over the top rude to the sitting President over and over, trying I guess to make a name for herself, and likely her employer. She has interrupted the President and tried repeatedly to embarrass him and his administration in front of other world leaders. She lacks decorum, civility, professionalism, and common courtesy to the max. She asked for it, and she got it, in my opinion. She’s a total disgrace to her profession, and rude as hell.
Ahhh, I thought NoDak was referring about yesterdays interaction with an ABC reporter. Same one? Don’t know??
The Woke/Left/Dims are focused on playing the ‘Victim Card’. They believe that the better ‘victim’ wins, always. So they compete to be the ‘biggest/best victim’.
That’s a very salient point.
Considering that the Fake News approval rating is in the 30s I don’t think it hurts him much.
Trump needs Jesus, like so many many many other people in this world. Could he cut down on how he talks to people, and be a little nicer? sure. But i also would rather a president say miss piggy and bomb scumbags trying to cross the ocean to bring drugs and other terrible things to our country, than some smooth speaking people pleaser who wouldn’t do anything necessary to keep our country safe. you take the bad with the good. and you pray for him. that’s what i do.
Trump is very, very nice to people who treat him right. He is very not nice to the haters trying to destroy him. That’s not being a bad person. That’s being real, and treating others as they treat him. I’m totally, and unapologetically supportive of this method of dealing with hateful, hurtful, lying, malicious people.
He’s losing points with the “turn the other cheek” crowd, but in my experience, turning the other cheek just gets you a red hand print on the other side.
Since he was pushing back/responding to someone being rude and has plenty of ‘priors’ I expect the effect to be minimal.
The ‘smowflakes’ are already ‘Anti Trump’ so not much damage there.
Well, as much as I hate all politicians, I do lean “right” quite a bit.
That said, Trump is being a dick for no reason at all.
Someone recently reminded me that being kind does not cost anything.
I think Trump needs to hear that as well.
I needed to hear it since I can be an ass. Getting old has some perks, and giving zero shits about what other people think is one of them. Still, I should be kind when possible. Even to idiots.
I disagree he’s being a dick for no reason at all. After decades of lies, defamatory commentary, attacks, misrepresentations, fabrications, lawfare, rude interruptions, and a total lack of decorum and civility, it’s finally come to a boil. He’s done playing nice with these insolent, hateful folks who think they can treat him any way they want with impunity.
Good point. The media will do and say anything to push their views. They have made up their minds that anything Trump does is automatically bad.
What does it cost to be an a$$?
I have been accused of being ‘an ass’ many times over my lifetime, I don’t remember ever having to pay for the honor.
Being an ass is free, however it has probably cost me friends and potential jobs.
It may have cost me friends and gotten me other ones.
I prefer the real friends than the snowflakes ones.
Yup
happy birthday mrs gone fishin!!!!
Thanks!
Dude in the video up top – they normally send the “most sober” of the group to get more beer.
Would hate to see the rest of the guys back at the house waiting for him……..
LOL yup!
it’s still one of my most favorite videos of all time. That guy is a legend.
FTP!
FTP!
FTP!
Sean Payton farts in church.
Happy birthday to the Missus.
’You look lovely today Mrs. Fishing…..🎣’
What, you don’t?
If I went to church….. I probably would. I just know that sort of thing is frowned upon….
So as we get to a make or break point in the season, here’s my honest assessment of McCarthy thus far.
He has good arm strength and likes to throw on the move (he prefers to go to his right) and avoid sacks with natural athleticism. He isn’t very accurate when throwing on the run, but he likes to do it, a lot.
He has shown a willingness to fire the ball over the middle into tight coverage. He also has a tendency to throw the deeper ball, if he has two choices. He wants to make big plays. Get chunks of yardage. He’s definitely not a dink and dunk QB.
In the end he seems to believe it is his destiny to be a football hero, and that oozes from his persona at every turn. He’s sold on himself.
The rough start to his NFL career hasn’t dimmed his enthusiasm, or self belief. He still thinks he’s going to be the greatest QB in NFL history. He thinks he can win every game with a great play in the 4th quarter. To me, he reminds me of Russell Wilson. Wilson always believed he had that game winning throw, against all odds, in him.
It remains to be seen if KOC and McCown can corral McCarthy’s talent and actually mold him into a really good, competent NFL QB. I have my doubts, because of the Russell Wilson gene I see in him. He’s not a technician, he’s a play maker. That makes him exciting to watch, but not a very good QB.
Just my observations.
Fair assessment.
also this part makes me sad.
To me, he reminds me of Russell Wilson.
I hate Russell Wilson. I would pick Kirk over Russell Wilson. So I really hope JJ is better than that.
I am still expecting that he becomes a better technician and his skills and processing both improve with time.
I truly hope so too. He needs a little Kirk Cousins infusion, to balance out that football hero gene running wild in him. In the end though, it’s really hard to be something you’re not.
He’s young and full of enthusiasm, that’s good.
Believe he will learn and he has the best coaching to help.
Rookie QB growing pains.
It’s like watching your kids grow up – you hate seeing them struggle, but you know they have to go through it and learn from their mistakes, hoping and believing in their potential to become successful.
That’s a fair assessment. Let’s see how he looks by the end of next season. I still have hope, but then, that’s all I can do right now…
He’s 22. When I was that age, I had a serious Superman complex. I thought I could do anything. I carried that over the top self belief in me for decades. I went into battle, convinced I was always going to come home safe, convinced I would always come out on top. Even after being almost killed a dozen times. I can relate to McCarthy. I know how he thinks, and how he feels.
You mean that doesn’t last forever? DAMMIT.
I have a Superman coffee cup that was given to me by my admin staff, after I worked a 20 hour day, suffered a collapsed lung, and almost died on the operating table when I was 62. The girls all came to the hospital to chide me, and gave me the cup to remind me I wasn’t Superman. So no, it didn’t go away easily for me.
How does ‘working a 20 hr day’ cause a ‘collapsed lung’??
guessing pneumonia or some kind of nasty cold, and instead of staying home he took some Dayquil and went to work.
I got pneumonia twice in the Army. Both times from going on a mandatory Battalion run when I had a chest cold.
I would often take Nightquil for a good nights sleep when I had a cold, work all day, get home feeling like crap and doing over and over again.
But the pneumonia came from the run in winter weather while I already had a cold IMHO.
I have a rare skin condition called Birt-Hogg-Dube syndrome. This condition causes lesions and cysts to form on my face and scalp. In addition, these form on my internal organs. Apparently my lungs are full of them. Physical and mental stress, increased blood pressure, etc can cause these lesions to create a hole in my lung. It’s called a spontaneous pneumothorax. This causes the lung to collapse. I had been working 20 hour days for a good 6 weeks when this happened on a highly classified operation.
Ouch, glad you are good now.
I have worked similar hours before when it was needed or when I needed the distraction i.e. going thru a divorce.
My Grandmother said I had chickenpox worse than anyone she had ever seen. She worried that since I was working in prison, high stress job, I would get shingles.
Luckily it never happened. Probably because I was not bright enough to know how stressful the job was.
Happy Birthday to Mrs Fishin.
She puts up with a lot. Hope the gift is worthy.
I’m going out right now to catch her a delicious bass.
GM!
FTP!
SKOL!
Happy Hump Day!
Also, JJ will be fine.
In case you’re unaware…
Brilliant!!!
That’s not incorrect.
I am pretty sure Vikings Marketing is paying old players to shill the team on social media. A lot of their posts follow the same trains of positive thought.
And that’s fine. That’s marketing.
It pays to advertise… gotta move the product.
Where the Vikings moving to?
Laughing, I meant sell the merchandise… not the farm.
Not old Cris Carter, he doesn’t pull any punches, and Emanuel Acho sucks
I mean, he is not wrong. JJ did not play well until crunch time.
It is probably a result of the defense playing the vaunted “prevent defense” and the urgency that comes with the clock running out. He probably gets out of his own way a bit.
Still clinging to hope that he becomes a very good QB for a long time for this team….
happy humpday birthday to Mrs fishin
Happy Birthday, Mrs Fishin!
FTP!!
Hey GF happy birthday to your wife. She probably appreciates you still keeping things interesting after 14 years with your bike ramp antics.
Hopefully she has a great day!
Thanks!
Yeah, life is never boring with me around, I feel for her, I actually got her a sympathy card for our anniversary one year, she laughed.
Good morning and SKOL. Read somewhere that our season is already over, and it’s time to completely scrap the team, the coaching staff, and the GM, and start building a winning unit around McCarthy.
Had to chuckle at that.
FTP!
Happy Wednesday,
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SKOL
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GF. Happy Birthday to your wife. You’re a lucky man but I’d bet she feels she’s a lucky women having a good hard working man like you.
Hope you both have s great day!
Thank you!
I know I’ll have a great day, I’m going fishing.