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Hey, folks. We’re going to have some big news today, as our new logos will hopefully be revealed! I had a Zoom meeting with the logo designer last night, and I think you’re going to love what he’s come up with. Now we can hopefully start working on some merchandise and whatever else we decide to do. Cool stuff, man.
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Video of the Day:
I dunno, maybe I’m weird, but this is funny stuff, if you ask me. As a recovering alcoholic, I’m the last person who would laugh about addiction, but you can laugh at the behavior. Enjoy!
I put this on the other thread as well, this is just a png version, and I’ll get the full selection tonight, but I love this.
Wow that is F’n awesome.
I love it. Can’t wait for y’all to see all of them. He made a dozen or more renditions of this, the one on the dark backgrounds is absolutely sick.
not bad, can we add a “Big 5 is the GOAT” in paranthesis below and centered?
A new thread for you: Minnesota Vikings News & Discussion-Part Deux: 16 Nov 2022 – Skoloholics
new thread, maybe?
this one feels a bit laggy to me
Done.
Minnesota Vikings News & Discussion-Part Deux: 16 Nov 2022 – Skoloholics
Thanks!
There’s your guy 5
See? We all gotta have kids or this. No other options. None.
those awesome people all have 5 kids at 25, you are irrelevant
Bring in all the Catholics we can get!
Catholic revolution!
I’m one of 5 brothers BTW. Went to Catholic church for a little while. Mom Catholic dad Lutheran.
at least they could agree on having wine for communion
Are these tweets coming up or just the links for you gals? Mine are links and I still don;t have gifs or images. Maybe a pop up setting is messed up for me?
Shadow ban in action
Which browser are you using?
chrome, always has been that
Mine does it sometime, especially on mobile but will usually catch up. Especially if you are on mobile or have a slow connection it is probably because the thread is getting long.
That’s what angry bitter noi man women want so fuck them. Many here want this. okie dokie. I have zero fucks to give, period.
I already see a degradation of society, so effed up people having effed up kids is the answer? Not in my world.
we need good people having good kids
I really think it all comes back to culture, culture, culture
Country has issues on many fronts, i consider society well up the list. Doubt many politicians are exposed to what’s happening on our streets. Trip to a store and you think of packing heat with your head on a swivel. Fucking sad.
lmao
Idiocracy coming to life.
I think what he meant was that white people don’t have babies.
honestly didn’t know he still played.
good for him.
bad for us – they just fixed their run defense until their regular guy gets healthy
Man what a shitshow this morning.
I get an invite late Monday evening to a Teams meeting at 0630 today with the partially elected body that oversees the clinical side of things at my job. Trying not to get tl;dr there were prior email attachments to the invite that set my uneasy. I fired off a reply asking for some background on it all, heard back from one of my remote partners in Bozeman that she didn’t know but had asked for us (regional) types to be included. I then sent off an email saying that this whole thing was a massive breakdown in communication, why would asswipe A be invited to speak about asswipe B (me) without inviting me in the first place? Got a few phone calls from leadership explaining the invite was poorly worded, probably not about me at all but would love to have you participate.
Meeting starts. I gather from what I heard later some garishly worded email had been sent out by A a couple of weeks ago, whining how the regional asswipes were strangling the big city group out of gold doubloons. So the master of ceremonies says there is some miscommunication, glad you could all be here, let’s introduce ourselves (the big city group was in the board room in person).
A proceeds on a twenty five minute monologue introducing every single rad and their role including me. Starts to complain about how he’s been dealt a shitty hand and then moves on to describe how asswipe B:
-worked out his own deal behind his back
-has no morals
-left the group in desperate situation
-has a glorious lifestyle with no call or weekend work
-refused to work with the main group at a compromise
-was “voluntarily” given several sites to read from “temporarily” but apparently won’t give them back
-forced the other regional asswipes to join him in his fortress of solitude while gleefully flipping the bird to the rest.
Needless to say I weighed in and was supported by the regional team who have mountains of documentation on how it went down in addition to my own extensive documentation.
The thing I almost wanted to laugh about was that I wasn’t included in the original invite on November 7. How sweet to think I would be ground under the tire of public scrutiny without being invited.
typical gov’t stuff
It’s insane. BTW I never got to introduce myself. A was flat out lying making this story sound incredibly dramatic and I’m getting texts from CEO, CFO, COO, chief of staff, regional coordinator like WTF?!? and I’m like I gotta jump in here. The MOC tried to say well let’s move on to the present problem and I cut her off nopenopenope I’m jumping in here.
lol
A sounds like a jealous little weasel
I think as long as you accept the new title of Asswipe B, everything should go over smoothly.
Only one way to handle this:
When does the injury report come out?
4 ish probably
Evans and Darrisaw aren’t playing. With the new protocols, zero chance they clear concussion protocol in time.
Dallas is a solid team. We could easily lose this game. I also don’t like our chances playing a night game in Primetime on Thanksgiving. maybe Kirk can turn the corner, but his MNF game against the Eagles had 3 RZ INTs IIRC.
Kirk’s melt downs cost us big that game.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we lost the next two games.
I don’t count 4:25 as a night game personally.
Technically we could lose any game as this team plays up or down to the level of the competition because they’re balanced and effective not dominate and explosive.
I like us to beat the Cowboys straight up personally. We’re a bad matchup with what they don’t defend well.
Yeah. I didn’t mean to imply it was a done deal. Just waiting for us to have a small hiccup. Don’t tell Pete, but his DVOA is not entirely made up garbage like I have been implying, and the Vikings are due for some regression IMO. I’ll distract Pete with a sexy pic below and he won’t even see this. {Insert BSF evil laugh}
I’m going to challenge the regression back to the mean crowds take. I think this team hasn’t been overachieving, I think they’ve been prepared, well coached and executing on a level they’re capable of being successful at.
The proof of that is being down 10-27 in the 3rd qtr to a top team on the road. Top team thought it was in the bag and the Vikings stuck to their plan kept executing and put themselves in a position to win. Wasn’t that the Bills lost the game, it that the Vikings didn’t quit and gave themselves a chance to win.
I’m probably 60-40 right now.
60% with your take and 40% with the regression crowd. I’ve been arguing for the non-regression just because I really like to argue, but I’m not fully convinced that is correct.
I think we will end up at 13-4. Probably with a loss to Dallas coming up.
Hope I’m wrong though.
I’m thinking 12-5, so we’re really similar.
Either we lose to Dallas and the Jets, or we lose one of those and a game we ought to win (Lions/Colts/Giants/Bears).
You really see a 3 game losing streak?
I think that view is more easily defended in some ways than “they’ll go 1-2 over the next three and inexplicably lose to the Colts”
It’s true that the next three games happen to be three in a row, and at home, but all three teams are good enough to beat the Vikings without needing much luck, IMO.
@ Chicago is a losable game by the way, even if we’re not resting starters.
So yeah, I see 4 losses remaining, but lots of different ways for it to happen. My table above is very simply “lose to better teams, beat worse teams”
LOL
DVOA is a part of my overall feelings, but I get how it seems like it’s the ONLY thing for me here at Skoloholics. I tend to emphasize it more when it disagrees with conventional wisdom to a remarkable degree. This year is definitely one of those.
You mean the Thanksgiving game? It’s at 7:20 pm Minnesota time
I think Lifer was talking about the cowpies game.
I put us down for a loss for no other reason than “letdown after big emotional win.”
I would agree here.
When has that ever happened?
2017 playoffs come to mind immediately.
All I remember from that year is Diggs catch. After that the season ended.
Eh…..I don’t buy that. They can still clear in a weeks time if they test normal to their baseline.
whoa!
what movie is that?
I feel like I saw it a long time ago and totally forgot about it until just now
freaky shot
don’t say a word, i think that’s brittany murphy and i think she’s dead now
Correct and also correct.
ah. yes.
I may have seen this in theaters – otherwise I rented it when it was first available at Blockbuster (LOL)
Based on an Andrew Klavan book!
going to hollywood video for a movie on friday night was one of my favorite things to do with my mom and dad.
I remember seeing that trailer in the theater. Came off well at the time. Murphy was awesome at creating kooky characters.
I think it was those big eyes
When does the stock market historically perform best?
D President and R Congress 16.3%
R president and Split Congress 13.7%
D President and split Congress 13.6%
D President and D Congress 10.1%
R President and R Congress 6.7%
R President and D Congress 4.9%
So we are in for 13.7% gains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-outlook-midterm-elections-republicans-take-congress-big-gains-2022-11
That might be historically somewhat corollary but not anymore. Printing money at previously unseen levels with no standard to back it up is going to lead to atrocious lives soon. The stock market is going to continue to get killed in all ways. Now, burying your entire energy sector, making 3 major states socialist ran (all are in massive massive trouble) is a disaster in all ways. Also, the top 3 out migration states. The USA is ded for good in this era, that simple.
Five you are the voice of one crying in the Wilderness…..
And I fear you may be correct.
More info in the article:
Hear that guys? Next year is as good as it gets!
Just proves my point that this is totally different. There is zero chance of that.
I’d say wanna bet but that is poor taste. Still shocked you would be a doomer on the stock market.
Let’s bet. Do you actually think the stock market does awesome in a recession along with sky high infaltion? lol
I guess it’s safe to say you don’t think that from January 1 to December 31 of 2023 that the, what? DJIA S&P 500 will rise 10%.
I think it will.
I’m not putting money on it.
depends on how far it goes down next 6 weeks. I’m looking at a defnse contractor index fund, get some of my tax dollars back while evil, moral less people who send kids to death get even richer. Especailly pigs and traitors like that pig Milley or pig obama
always these blips, core infaltion down 0.01%. woo hoo
Stock market is not GDP.
lol, agree. Selling LNG to europe after you made them not get any from their normal source is GDP.
Carl Icahn on Stocks, Inflation, Recession, Fed, Musk, Twitter …https://markets.businessinsider.com › News › stocks
3 days ago — Stocks will plunge, inflation will persist, and the US economy will feel more pain, Carl Icahn says.
I think Icahn was the inspiration for Richard Gere’s character in Pretty Woman, only no happy ending for the raided company.
he’s just another money grubbing POS but he’s not stupid. His refinery business I may look at, once we can’t get people to work or the stores obama might let us have a bit more while he counts his 150,000,000 in cash he stole like the fkn pig he is and slob hubby big mike
Coming off a pandemic and the amount of money that was spent I think this post midterm result will be well below historical norms.
well, Jamie Dimon thinks so, my guys think so, Buffet thinks so, every person thinks so. Could be some targeted buys, nobody knows what they are and the avg person will never know.
JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon Says Stocks Could Tumble 30 …https://www.fool.com › Buying-stocks
Oct 16, 2022 — JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon Says Stocks Could Tumble 30% in a Recession. Should You Be Worried? by Maurie Backman | Published on Oct. 16, 2022.
Yeah but this is isn’t doomsday….markets down 20% now. Sure 30% more would be dramatically hard but not for those not retiring soon who can ride it out until the market goes back up. This is just a holding pattern coming up more than anything.
ok
Warren Buffett is sitting on a $200b cash pile but can’t find a deal …https://markets.businessinsider.com › news › stocks › w…
Warren Buffett has assured Berkshire shareholders he is on the lookout for deals as its cash pile grows, but there aren’t any that interest him.
he doesn’t know shit, BSF does
Its not my article.
I just enjoy watching you dance to my tune.
You have no idea how much you amuse me.
BSF: Now Dance!
Lil 5:
yawn
You don’t have to believe me, go ask warren buffet, sam zell, carl icahn, jim rogers, ray dalio, jamie dimon. There might be some buying opps if those stocks ever come back. This isn’t mass rapist clinton, this is an evil NWO that is 100% intent on making all but a few into a slave class and people are going to help them do it b/c they are stupid fucks. Got AI going through the roof, no chance to ever even dent the deficit, wars going to be continues for $$, etc. And guess what, the people are going to vote for it like they just did maybe (lots do even if elections were rigged which they were and will continue to be). I don’t care. I hunt, I see what a bullet can do if place properly. You won’t feel that much. But the surveillance state (fuck you obama), the evil WHO and WEF, etc. aren’t making me a slave, period.
Van update.
i removed battery. brought it to autozone, got new battery. got yelled at by autozone idiot employee yelled at me for where i put the core battery. which was on a table RIGHT NEXT TO THE BATTERIES AND WHERE I WAS GETTING RUNG UP.
came home. installed battery (easiest thing to do for a vehicle IMO)
kids thought i was a god for fixing the van and making it run again. wife, less impressed but thankful.
sat the kids down, had a serious discussion of how we need to be respectful of EVERYTHING we have and not just leave things laying around and losing thing.
hopefully it hit home.
Having exchanged many a battery I know the drill. I come in the front door looking rather winded carrying the lead core battery…make eye contact with one of the salesmen…they will tell you where to put it down. NEVER put it some place convenient.
Had to change the battery in my Lexus LS460 last week. That thing eats batteries, I had it on a trickle charger not even a month before but it went dead dead dead, second time the battery died and they just don’t come back from that. Exactly 48 months since I installed the Interstate battery, which has a 42 month warranty from Costco.
It’s a tossup which is the harder battery to change out, that one or the one in the BMW M3 I used to own as a midlife crisis. Lexus buries them under plastic shields and it is right next to the hood hinge.
F150’s or the Ranger I can change out in three minutes.
Found out my wife had borrowed one of my flat head screwdrivers to scrape some rust. She got a spanking.
Freezey likes japan
i like all the places the Lord created
try zimbabwe
don’t you hunt there?
yup
what do you hunt there?
squirrels?
quite a few things, Cape Buffalo. It’s dangerous but that’s my style. Few can live that life.
aren’t those some of the most dangerous animals?
He actually just takes his lab with and hunts guinea hens.
Yes, very. But you know me.
also
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure… than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
-Big 5
I didn’t know you were the 26th president of the US? Reincarnation?
I have no clue what you are talking about
This is why I always read MT’s comments to the very last sentence.
My wife’s former 2015 Grand Cherokee would like a word with you.
air filter is easier to replace, but the results are far less dramatic.
i’m all about drama too
Watched the game again. Officiating was even worse.
That’s because you knew what to look for.
I’ve got the condensed version queued up
Yeah that 20 min version is good. I recorded last nights just to watch again.
That NFL+ thing makes them available anytime, well worth the $50 or whatever I spent on it. Plus, it has the all 22 film access. Really cool stuff.
signed up for the free trial to watch the MIN/BUF game since I missed it while driving the bus
I bought the annual thing, glad I did.
Worse than last week by a mile. Horrible
It’s up!
https://skoloholics.com/minnesota-vikings-vs-buffalo-bills-week-10-report-card/
sextape
5vil? This you
Still happy I bought at 5.375%
Still happy my mortgage is paid off.
My parents just paid theirs off a few years ago, was very happy for them.
i’m 4 years away.
feeling that itch bad hahaha
That when your mommy cashes in IRA?
no that’s when i’m done working my butt off to pay my 15 year mortgage off early
Good boy lad, you are one of my top pupils. Mick has been very slow but coming along. Skolly is a lost caue and rides the short bus
I get these surveys once in a while from Nielsen, they give me a gift certificate for $15 so of course I fill them out. One of them had me put all sorts of odd particulars in about my house, how long I owned, when I graduated, etc and the last question was how much do you owe on the house? Answer zero. Next question – who has the mortgage – no one. Next question – you have no debt on your home. Next question are you sure you own the home free and clear. End of questionnaire.
vultures abound
i laughed out loud while on the phone with a customer when i read
“skolly is a lost cause and rides the shortbus” hahahhaahahah sorry skolly
Yeah thats not bad. Even getting in just recently at 7 won’t be bad.
it’s not that bad but the issue is the low rates drove the market. Look at the median income multiple into the price. There is no way it can work. Vegas has been losing 20,000 resi brokers a month last few months, a month, not a year. Our business is dead, literally. I’m fucked for a while on banking any money
Winners find a way to win. I have faith in you.
Can you go to a new market?
My RE buddy is killing it right now…but you’re focused on commerical correct?
I’ll survive. No, and the issue is the same. We are a national company, it’s going to be fkn ugly. Yes, commercial.
Kym gets another job, cut back on Dukes food.
I’m armed and have many easy targets in my state
I’ll pay the extra for Dukes food.
how much in monopoly, er, US dollars is a house in Austria where you live? Mannheim?
Mannheim is in Germany, mate. Around my neck of the woods one has to shell out about 465000 in fiat dollars to get something somewhat nice.
I almost got in at 5.125, my banker called me one morning in a rush asking if I wanted to lock in and by the time she’d explained to me how that works that rate had been pulled and jumped up a quarter percent.
I locked in last September at 2.25% on a 30-year fixed. Very lucky, great timing, we’re in a great spot.
GF can now ride out his days as a walmart greeter and still have more than enough money left over to live off of.
Long term planning. LOL
Ha! I’d make it about 15 minutes as a WalMart greeter. Once I’m old and really don’t care at all anymore, I’d say it would be more like 5 minutes.
Yep, pretty much.
Customer: I need help getting around
Me: Lose some weight
I helped a couple friends move in August of last year, now I understand what kind of a deal they got on their mortgage rates and I’m jealous
I got my current home purchase that’s in process at 6.25. Not great but better than 19 which is the all time high. That’s how they get you to rationalize bending over. Still, you don’t want high rates, don’t borrow and pay cash.
20 is easy, think it’s more in most markets
IT will be worse for the more expensive homes…but those under 300k won’t take as big of a hit because of how it compares to what people are paying to rent.
You want to pay 2k/mo for a mortgage or to rent? Not a hard one to figure out.
300k house with 3.5% down on an FHA you’re just shy of 2400/mo.
Look at what it costs to rent a 3/4bd in a decent hood in MN.
Those houses won’t lose value…if anything they’ll sustain.
Before things went crazy wife and I were looking 215-220k range with 20% down. We were approved at 2.9% and couldn’t find what we wanted. Got outbid several times. Since then I’ve doubled what I can put down on a down payment.
Just waiting to strike….
lol, I’m moving there
That was almost 4 years ago now. We had about an 8 month window where we seriously looked. Then pandemic and everything went nuts. 2.9% is loooong gone.
Looked at a place we really liked and offered 200 – 10k over as that’s what the realtor suggested due to competition. Lost. Same place is now listed at 290
I had a little 4bd shithole up the road… on a postage stamp lot go for 287K in Sept.
Same house a year ago would’ve been lucky to see 225.
People want to get out of the renting where I am at and are willing to shell out for a decent home.
My wife sent me a listing for a less than desirable part of town yesterday. 1 bed, 1 bath, tiny lot and they want $172,000. We have a 4 bed, 3 bath we bought 5 years ago in a nice neighborhood and only paid $185,000. I could have sold my house over night a few months ago for $350,000. It’s a nice house but was built in the 50s. No way these houses are worth what they are selling them for. It can’t be sustainable.
a lot of factors play into it.
In duluth there are something like 7 colleges within 20 miles.
Throw in 2 hospitals and you have a huge need for rentals.
Single families get bought up for rental properties and it creates an imbalance.
2k+ a month for rent… or mortgage… you chooose.
either way the demand for housing in duluth is real.
doubt they get that
that’s what people said in 2008 and there were 10 billion foreclosures
And I’m sure there will be some… People stuck in arms that lose huge value… or low down payments.
But in the scenario I provided I dont see those houses losing a ton of value right now. Too much demand to buy and 0 supply…especially by me.
that’s not the US market, the trend is now huge rise in inventories and price reductions and a totally dried up buyer pool
Ok.
I cannot speak on the US market. Only locally. That’s what matters to me anyhow.
Right
You could come to northern MN or WI or UP and retire.
500k you’d have a dream property
WI and cross border to get all your fish. I think about it daily.
You should.
makes the most sense especially with your price range.
would have 40+ acres and waterfront wkth that coin
yup
get me a job down at the bait shop
Just buy a bait shop. I’m thinking about it.
Yup, just went from $1600 rent (and lucky to be that low, landlord had only raised rent $50 a month over 3 years) to just over $1800 mortgage. Feel much better about the money now.
Yup and there are a ton of people in that situation.
Pay the rates what they are right now and if they go down and value goes up? Refi.
A couple friends of mine were able to refinance down to 15-year with pretty minimal change in payment earlier this year. That’s the dream for sure.
More of a marathon than a sprint…but if you’re going to put down roots you may as well switch the 2k rent payment for a 2k mortgage… thats what people will do.
Gone are the days of people getting a 600k house at 2.5.
Back to normal.
Yeah, I’ve wanted to buy a house since ~2017 but got laid off in Jan ’18 and couldn’t get an offer for 10 months which put a dent in that plan.
Plus, moving sucks ass.
Moving does sucks.
Unless you’re homeless.
That’s what I did 2 or 3 years ago. Since my 30 year was an FHA loan by removing PMI and a reduced interest rate I think my payment went up like $150 a month.
ooOOOOooOoOOooo nothing wrong with that.
OR look at brad. Hes not going anywhere and locked in at rock bottom rate.
I’d much rather get in at 7% or 8% right now because I don’t think we’ve seen the top for rates yet… double digiits coming its just a matter of how far into them we make it.
I’d like to get out of town and buy some land but it’s hard to pay the prices they’re asking now and to walk away from a mortgage I only have 12 more years on at just over 2.5%. With a little luck I’ll just keep this house and rent it out when we do finally get out of town. I need a bigger garage. I have way to much crap piled everywhere.
Try to find someone who will do a land contract…
Work on just getting the land situated now and then use the equity in that the finance the house.
Yeah, the other trouble is the land that is for sale right now is few and far between and not what I’m looking for. I keep an eye out but the nice thing is we’re not in a huge rush. The house is good and plenty large, just lacking considerably on storage.
patience is key.
Never know when someone will die and the survivors just want to offload property.
I’ve been watching one that has been dropping for the last 7 monts and getting close to contacting to make an offer for a land contract.
bushc lt monthly money
yup, he will still be alive in 2030
Yep, but in Denver there are no houses anywhere for 500K, let alone 300K. Any decent house in a decent burb even is like 700K min.
My neighbors came from Colorado springs… they were paying 3500/mo in rent.
Paid WAY OVER ASKING for the house next door and pay less than half that in mortgage.
In October 2022, the median listing home price in Colorado Springs, CO was $457.4K, trending up 8.9% year-over-year.
Denver is 600K and anywhere you want to live more.
800K is mostly a shit house in any decent burb
I’m pleased as punch in Elk River. 2 acres and a nice home for $350k at 3.75% in the summer of 2019
lol, basically free compared to here. Have to have 6 months of brutal horribad dark winter though
true. I like my attached, insulated garage.
so to them it looks cheap the same way CO used to for cali pigs. Drives prices way up. MT is like that, esp. in Bozeman and Missoula, etc.
Can confirm.
Denver is insane, and the population is still going up at around 1.5%.
The most expensive non coastal single family in the USA
Its not rocket science, and when US goes into full on recession with job losses values will go down even further.
correct and we are there now and very few realize we are not talking 6 months, talking 2 years. If they re-elect the worst of the global elites candidates (dems) you will see massive murder and chaos at a level few can imagine. If the US dollar fails to stay the world’s currency there will be millions dead from gunshots in the USA. And guess what? You’ll be addressing me as Mr. President.
In case anybody wants to know the used vehicle market is tanking worse than 1929….
Wait it out!!!!!!!!!!
dilemma as I have the new F150 coming. I should though.
Man you’ve been waiting on that thing forever.
and they are still behind so if I can this who knows but I could buy used for cheap
Wait everything out. I expect smooth sailing any day now.
Tanking how? I’ve been looking for a used SUV and not wanting to spend any more than about 17k…
prices, you’ll find some deals pretty soon. Can you pay cash?
Plan was 10/12 cash and finance around 5k thru our credit union. 15-17k budget.
You’ll be good, wait a bit longer.
Used Car Prices Dropping — Expect It to Continuehttps://www.thedetroitbureau.com › news › Business
Oct 26, 2022 — Used car prices are expected to finish the year down nearly 14 percent. The third quarter saw the largest declines of 2022, …
It was necessary after that massive increase over the past couple years, it was ridiculous.
wait until deflation hits….
Yeah, it’s gonna be ugly. Cash is king in a shitty economy. Stocking up.
Just trying to get my crappy ’08 Mazda through this winter and upgrade to a newer crossover. Maybe hybrid too so I can blow off my other hand getting charging in my garage.
perfect, by next spring it will be full tank. Carvana alone is crushing it and they are about to go BK imo
Susan! From Carvana!
Wow, that 1 year CVNA graph is pretty incredible
$300.79 down to $8.58
Damnit I’ve been stockpiling my five cars just waiting to hit the jackpot.
Don’t shoot me…
But MIA is the best team in the NFL this year as of right now.
7-0 when Tua has played the full game.
lol
What so funny?
Miami’s offense is pretty crazy. Waddle and Hill are a lethal combo. That said, they can’t stop the pass and their special teams is the worst in the league this year. They will have to win a lot of shootouts to keep winning, and while they’re good at that, I don’t think it’s sustainable.
I think they’ll make the playoffs, but I don’t think they’ll make the AFCCG
If Byron gets healthy and Chubb comes on they will be better
that’s true, but still – they’ve got a tough remaining schedule and they’re in a tough conference. a lot of good teams will lose playoff games this year.
Yup… Both the AFC and NFC east are going to beat the snot out of each other.
I Dont think anyohe in those divisions has a cakewalk and they have the potential to put all 4 teams into the playoffs.
can you imagine if two divisions sent all of their teams to the playoffs in the same year?
that said, I think the Pronouns are the least likely to make it out of the 8 East teams
I do too…but they ahve a legit Defense…and an offense that can do some stuff.
Dotson and McLaurin… as well as Robinson and Gibson.
Riverboat Ron isn’t a dumdum either.
Defense is kinda scary… glad we got out of there alive
Most people know that McLaurin is good, but they don’t know how good. I think he’s top 8 in the league this year.
LOL
I remember when there was talk about the stupid pukes drafting him andthey took Sternberger instead.
LOLOLOLOL FTP
Bucs going to make noise this year? They looked good beating the Seahawks last week.
if they can get a running game going and some health they will be a threat. Niners
yeah, o-line and receivers looking better now than before.
No they suck and Brady is washed.
Luckily their division sucks. Seeing them in round 2 would be nice
Buffalo might get 3 ft lake-effect snow thru Sunday. Pour it on them Mother Nature.
Since the 2020 season the Vikings have played in 31 1 score games out of 44 total games. They are 19-12 including 7-0 this year.
is the one score game thing sustainable?
maybe? This team has had 75% of their games decided by a score.
theyve been there before.
They just need to beat the rest of the teams on the schedule by double digits and problem solved.
I guess? It doesn’t bug me how they win as long as they come out with the W.
Rewatching the bills game yesterday…there really wasnt a point they “weren’t” in it. They played a hell of a game. If Allen wasn’t the QB they might have had 10 sacks. The D was in the backfield the whole damn game.
I was just being a smart ass in if the rest of the games are not one score games then we don’t have to worry about them winning one score games being sustainable.
LOL.
I see what you did there.
it might be sustainable for a time, but usually it corrects itself eventually. the real question is whether it’ll happen this year or next year.
They are 7-0 this year so they were 12-12 from the previous 2.
Does that mean we lose 7 in a row 1 score games to be at .500?
I just hear all the time that X team is winning because of Y and that is unsustainable.
Kinda like Philly and TO differential… Who knows though.
My point is…this core group of this team has played in a ton of 1 score high pressure games.
Maybe the past 2 seasons are starting to pay dividends this year.
I don’t think we’ll lose the next 7 1-score games, but as you noted, we were 12-12 from the previous 2 years. perhaps we’ll be within a couple/few games of something like 20-20 by the end of next season. Not sure exactly how it would happen, but it’s an observable phenomenon: W/L record in one-score games tends to regress to the mean.
It’s a great preseason bet – over/under for teams’ records for an entire season – just look at the record in one-score games from the previous season. The teams with the worst record in such games? vote the over. And vice versa.
Last year we went 7-7 and the previous year it was 5-5.
Mean says .500 but the good teams WIN those games more than they lose.
The 2 previous seasons nobody confused us with a “good” team.
My point is…I think that it is finally starting to payoff playing in those high stress game on the line situations that this team knows what they are doing.
if KOC’s “situational masters” coaching style can create a team whose 1-score game record does NOT regress to the mean, that would be astounding and outstanding for Vikings fans
LET IT RIP!
This is payback for last year.
So 31 out of 44 games is 70%
This season out of all the games i the NFL, 65% have been 1 score games. So the Viking games are pretty much the league average, but that is a comparison of 2 1/2 yrs versus 1/2 year
Annie11 molests collies.
Damn it! I missed it. I am the mighty swingin’ hammer of Thor and I live to smash up the spammers with my witty repartee…
I preserved her IP address if you’re interested
216.131.74.110
Thanks! I think the devs nuke those, but thank you. I’ll keep it for future reference, report it as abuse if I need to. I assume they did that, but just in case.
here’s another from earlier in the week
39.53.210.91
Kodiak,
That’s her IP address. Do your thing.
LOL
Thank you.
It’s meant to be.
the “five fewer games” part is suspicious to me. Is he calculating missed time for Moss in his first 3 seasons? Did Moss miss time?
3 season was 48 games when Moss was playing. Now it’s 51 – three more.
Vikings have played 9 games to far this year, so add that to 17 for last year and another 17 for the year before and that’s 43.
The game this week will be the 44th regular season game since Jefferson joined the team, meaning if JJ gets 88+ yards, he’ll have passed Moss in four fewer games, right?
Yeah….
who knows
In JJ’s first year, there were only 16 games, right? So, 50 & not 51?
ohhhhhh, is that so?
I stand corrected. Thanks.
I think so, but I’m not 100%. I thought last year was the first year with 17 games.
yeah, just looked it up. last year was the first year
maff
Father in Memory care getting moved again.
Dude cannot keep his clothes on, and finds a willing woman at every new facility.
Family complains, he gets booted.
Note to self. Drink booze less often(He drank himself to dementia )
do they have all-male facilities?
That’s what we are looking for. there are two near enough, but no idea if they have vacancy or not.
I didn’t know they had such a thing. He won’t be happy, if he has enough upstairs to think about it, but it seems like the best solution.
Yeah, he was very unhappy in Texas, because he was sharing a room with a loud guy, and had no space. Climbed out the window twice trying to escape. Found a place here with a much nicer private room, better care. But yeah, he has chased skirts his entire life, and any mental restraints are now gone.
Happiness is no longer possible for him, other than the distraction of TV.
Really sorry to hear that, Surly.
How’s his hand-eye coordination? Maybe it’s time to get him into video games?
Used to play WoW with my son and I. His arthritis is so bad now he can barely use his hands. @except for sex@
You don’t need your hands for sex. Who are you?
When I get put in an old folk’s home, ideally, I will keep myself entertained by creating missions for myself: sneaking out of my room, infiltrate the kitchen and obtain a pudding cup, for example.
Climbing out the window and going to a store for illicit treats could also be a mission.
I’m going to “wander and get lost” in the mountains if I get to that point. I’m going out fighting a grizzly bear, even if I have to use my walker to do it. No need to spread my ashes, the bears with spread me.
Same here, bears or wolves.
Better yet, maybe I’ll just wander around Minneapolis late at night, armed, and die in a hail of bullets while taking out some idjits.
That’s the way to go right there.
An old Predator did that in a story once…
Can I hunt over your gut pile?
Absolutely. Might as well take advantage of the situation.
you can on me too
Sounds like a plan. I’ll send you a waypoint if I get to that point.
eat a bunch of berries before you croke too
I’ll tie a t-bone to my neck too.
excellent, also eat honey and then cover yourself in wonder bread and have someone spread honey all over that too
I already told my kids that I will be sneaking out the back door all the time. It will be payback for putting me in there.
I doubt drinking caused it.
2 -3 bottles of wine per day for 12 + years.
Booze definitely caused this.
Saw the same thing in my Father in law who passed at 74. drunk since teenage years.
always thought it was brain related only
Your gut is your second brain.
they’re linking a lot of dementia/Alzheimer’s to stomach issues.
It’s a real deeep dive but your guy microbiome is so important to your overall health as well as your brain health.
thets the super duper short cliff notes version… feel free to deep dive on your own.
tell us what to do to keep it good? Bourbon good I assume?
Fermented foods.
yup, very good for you. I eat a lot of sauerkraut and kimchi for health benefits
Both of those are great. So is Kefir. Kombucha.
More and more is being learned about gut health and how it relates to so many other ailments in the body.
Its also the reason something like ivermectin…when people have taken it for the vid have cured decades long issues they have had. A Lot of people have a parasite issue they know nothing about and the ivermectin takes care of it.
Kombucha is good for the gut?
yessir
How about kumbaya?
Sure.
Why not.
it doesn’t work, fauci said so
um, no. My 2nd brain is below that.
Dementia has many causes, but they all affect the brain.
yeah, not sure on it all
brain encephalopathy can absolutely be caused by alcohol and lead to dementia. My ex-wife drank herself till her liver failed in her early/mid 30s. She was jaundice, yellow eyes and skin from her liver stopping to function normal and wasn’t filtering bilirubin anymore. Shit can fuck your brain hard, some of the shit I saw was crazy.
Yeah find someone who needs to have ascites fluid drained due to cirrhosis and have a coherent convo with them.
bad stuff
Korsakoff’s syndrome is a disorder that primarily affects the memory system in the brain. It usually results from a deficiency of thiamine (vitamin B1), which may be caused by alcohol abuse, dietary deficiencies, prolonged vomiting, eating disorders, or the effects of chemotherapy.
Most patients first develop a delirium, marked by confabulation, gait disorder and problems with memory and disorientation (that is usually called a Wernicke’s encephalopathy). When this delirium clears, a profound disorder of memory remains. Patients have great difficulty learning and retaining new information as well as problems recalling memories from the recent past.
Long story short – if you drink, take B1 supplements.
seems easy enough
Google Korsakoff’s dementia.
It certainly can contribute
Oh dang man that’s tough I am sorry to hear that. Alcohol can be a fucking thief of life. Some folks shouldn’t drink.
I have a friend from preschool who is going down if he doesn’t quit, he’s sort of gone now. Brain has been soaked too many times. Family has tried everything.
Alcohol will be the new tobacco.
After decades of glorifying it for financial gain they will get blasted and sued into oblivion.
nope, too many enjoy it and can do it w/o issue
Yeah like tobacco.
Howd that work out?
Yep, for a period of time, over half the country smoked.
Not only was it cool to smoke, it was almost necessary in certain social situations. Kind of like alcohol.
Correct.
NostraMick
Yup, I think I still have C-rations around here somewhere that have some butts in them.
Yeah, they used to put them in the C-rations. My dad started smoking in WWII. He was a 5 pack a day guy before he quit (Pall Mall filterless, woof). He quit before I was born, but he died from cancer.
My grandpa started smoking in WW1.
He was a 2-packer for more than 70 years before he died of cancer. Weird how all people are different, the way God made us.
Yepper. My dad died at the age of 60. Sad because all of his brothers and sisters lived into their 90s.
Odd, nobody would put him out?
I remember a time where you could smoke EVERYWHERE. Bus, plane, office, restaurant… smoker´s paradise.
Dentist recommended it
lol there are some crazy ones
https://i.insider.com/57753faddd08954c3c8b4cbc?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp
hmmmmm
Wow!
Activists don’t care.
they will never stop people from having a beer or a glass of wine, period
Jus like they haven’t stopped selling cigs.
when did I say it would go away?
ok
Probably not, but they will make it more difficult and a lot more expensive just like cigs.
I couldn’t believe the price of cigs. Buddy of mine asked me to buy him a pack when I was heading out to his place. I did & almost soiled my trousers when they asked me for over $6.00.
LOL 10-12 in MN depending on the brand.
I just look at beer… I used to get 30pack cube in high school for 9.99.
Thats like 25 bucvks now if they even make it.
Holy shit. I quit over 20 years ago, and I think at that time, a pack was $2.00.
LOLwut? And I´m complaining about € 5,70 for a pack of Luckies…
Prohibition seems to prove that, yes. People will always find a way to get some booze.
Had an aunt who’s son told her if she doesn’t stop he won’t see her again. She didn’t stop and died. I talked a little on another post below but my ex-wife was a ridiculous alcoholic and violent at that. She finally got clean in rehab once she hit rock bottom and I was filing for divorce, she lost her job etc… up until that point I kept everything in our lives together for the both of us. She had drank herself into two seizures but through all these hospital stays and mental health in-patient stays always refused actual rehab and getting actually clean until it was too late and I had enough, she woke up from a literal drunken fog with no husband, house, or job. I went through about 5 years of hell man. She’s lucky I was nice enough to keep her ass on my insurance until we were legally divorced and that paid for a lot of medical bills.
Damn, that’s tough, man. I can’t imagine.
I was a functional alcoholic. Always worked, didn’t get mean, but I had a severe problem ever since I started at age 13, never had a slow gear when it came to alcohol. Really happy to be sober now.
Sounds like my dad. he retired at 80, in 2019 when the company pushed him out since he was and is a creature of habit. He would show up for work the same time each day, (grocery store) weather he was scheduled or not.
Imagine working 5 am – 3 pm, going home, sit in recliner and drink. Pass out in recliner. get up at around 1-2 am and go to bed and sleep for two hours. then wake up and do that again.
Doesn’t sound like living, sounds like just existing.
Awesome man! Glad to hear it! We are just learning some people shouldn’t drink. I have never had an issue, I am a happy drunk the hand full of times a year I actually get drunk. Otherwise I enjoy sipping very expensive whisky and good beers lol.
But I mean we are learning the same thing with weed. Some people shouldn’t smoke. I have a low tolerance for weed and if I over due it I have a VERY bad time lol. My ex on other hand. Boy I loved it when she was high and not drinking. Never an issue. Just happy go lucky lol.
That’s a journey, man. Good job on making it through.
It was a journey, holy shit.
Sorry to hear about that. You’re a pretty tough guy to make it through that. I hope she’s doing better these days.
Thanks, it’s my understanding she is. I hope she is and stays healthy but I can’t ever be around her again. I don’t wish her ill at all, hope she has a great rest of her life. At first they said she’d need a liver transplant in her 30s because it was so destroyed. Luckily being in her mid 30s it regenerated and she’s doing OK as far as I know. Thing is if she ever drinks again it’ll probably just kill her. I still talk to her brother and dad (big Viking’s fans) because her whole family was supportive of me getting a divorce. They knew only a little of the hell she put me through but how bad is that that her whole family basically were like, “yeah we get it.” lol.
yeah, when the in-laws give you a greenlight for divorce, you know it’s the right decision
it almost always is, for her and half your shit. wonder why the pansies haven’t jumped on this saying how great marriage is, lmao
Didn’t get half my shit at all. South Dakota isn’t a 50/50 state. We had 2 cars, she got the older shitty one because there’s no way she could pay for the one we still owed on, I got the house, she took all her medical and student debt she had left (my school loans were paid off), I have a shit ton of music gear and she just asked for the one acoustic guitar and I was like fine.
While she was in rehab and living with her folks across the state, I packed up all her shit and hid the things I didn’t want her to even think about taking (music gear) at friend’s houses lol.
I told her I made this divorce under the ground of irreconcilable differences but I could have used grounds for divorce under Habitual intemperance and if she wanted to fight me I had literally hours and hours of video on my phone of her being a violent drunk towards me that I would use as evidence. I was fucking done haha.
What do/did you use the music gear for? Expensive stuff, good on you for hiding it!
kerryokie
I’ve been playing/writing music since middle school. I have a whole set up in my basement. Multiple big tube amps, bass rig, multiple basses and guitars, drum set, a couple monitors, mics, computer and recording gear for a home studio.
Sweet! I am the roadie for the people in my bands who actually own all that stuff, very happy to just bring an instrument and a music stand.
Some day I’d like to learn bass, I don’t think my left hand is cut out for the dexterity required for piano or guitar chords.
I’d say bass is one of the easier instruments to START on. By that I mean you can fumble through songs you like playing quicker on bass than piano and guitar. BUT it is just as hard as any instrument to get actually good at and fill the space with good sonic dictation and adding that foundation bottom end to a song is VITAL. So yes, try bass but you have to have dexterity on bass as well if you want to do more than just play the bass note/basic rhythm.
Marriage isn’t a bad deal. I’m looking at doing it again. Love the girl I’m currently with. She’s amazing. Her family is a damn headache though haha.
it is literally the worst deal going imo. It’s not marriage it’s the courts and system, purposefully put in place to destroy. thx rockefellers!
I agree. I can’t believe states like MN that are a 50/50 state. I have a buddy who got divorced, has a new girlfriend and she can’t get divorced. Her well technically current husband has racked up hundreds of thousands maybe million and if they get divorced the court system just goes, you both get half of all assets and debts no matter who’s responsible. At least SD takes into consideration who’s responsible for what. Like my ex and all her student debt like she was 2 classes away from her master’s which should have taken 2 years tops she was going on 3-4 years because of the drinking. So both attorney’s agreed that was her debt. The last thing she ever did right by me is not fighting me on this shit, she knew it was her fault.
there you go but all will still tell me it’s great. It’s the same with their team. You can not fix stupid, period.
Right? My ex-wife’s family likes me a lot more than my current girlfriend’s lol.
Sorry to hear that. Sucks.
I lived, bitch.
Girly little 5 hands.
First time they haven’t been called sausage fingers, I’ll take it!
Lolol
5ladyfingers knows a lady for a good manicure.
he took his polish off
you just think a blood bruise is nail polish because you’ve never worked with your hands
fair point
I just might end up like JPP by tomorrow
rich and black?
Heck, I might trade a couple fingers for career earnings in the 9 figures
good work!
bUt HoW’s YoUr DiCk?
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Nice!
Gotta have a first time popping a receptacle, I suppose
Yep, sure is an experience. Especially 220. We hit an underground 220 line one time with the 3 point auger putting in coral posts one time on my brother’s farm.
Yowza!
I think I used more colorful language than that, but yeah.
Hah, yeah I used a bit more than that just for my little outlet receptacle
Good to hear you lived, I assume since you didn’t specifically say on way or the other, that you also didn’t shock your cock off.
It’s still there but functionality is, as always, questionable.
Wow, that looks old.
Was brand spanking new until I did a bad job wiring it and popped it last night, lol
Oh shit!
I have learned little from my mistakes and will probably do the same thing again tonight. At least I am buying 2 receptacles today.
the 10 worst 8-1 teams
DVOA not even close to the next-crappiest 8-1 team… So yer saying we have a slim chance of winning a Super Bowl?
precisely!
But defense keeps improving and offense I mean Hock has been here a week and a half. Offense is going to get better as well.
Hock may turn out to be the whst 2nd round pick we’ve made in years.
and 3rd
It’s not a third.
oh yeah?
The Vikings have traded for former first-round tight end T.J. Hockenson from the Detroit Lions for a 2023 second-round pick and a 2024 third-round pick, NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero reported Tuesday, per sources. Minnesota will also receive a 2023 fourth-round pick and a 2024 conditional fourth-round pick as part of the deal.
we gave up a 2nd and 4th for their 3rd and 4th and Hockenson – given where they typically draft (and where we do) the draft pick value chart math suggests it’s the equivalent of a 2nd round pick for Hock straight up
wrong dummy
whoops
I agree that the trajectory is upward.
me too, booth looked good in practice
I have a secret. I have been watching football since 1983, and I still don’t know what DVOA means…
The initials themselves make me think of divas and dead on arrival acronyms. Maybe that is why I avoid learning. Nothing but bad connotations in my brain.
Me neither.. PPB tried to explain.
what was the bengals and rams DVOA last year?
Rams #5, Bengals #17 (Vikings were #16)
Here are the weighted and non-weighted DVOA values:
LOL, I don’t think DVOA has been around that long (they’re retroactively grading old seasons)
it stands for Defense-adjusted Value Over Average (think of “defense-adjusted” as “adjusted for the quality of the opponent”)
grading each play against the baseline expected value given context (down and distance, game clock, time outs remaining, field surface, weather, etc)
Ah, sometimes at night when I can’t sleep, and I think of dumb things, I think, someone should make a stat in football where, at the end of the year, they ignore every game against an opponent with a losing record and only count stats for wins against winning teams.
If a QB throws for 500 yards and 6 TDs against the Lions, who really cares in the long run? It is the Lions.
Is DVOA kind of like that then?
a little.
teams still get credit for yards and TDs against opponents like the Lions, but they get less credit.
So, a perfectly thrown pass is less perfect because of the opponent? That seems……dumb.
think of it like this:
getting 350 passing yards against the worst pass defense in the league is still impressive, but is it more impressive than getting 300 passing yards against the best passing defense in the league?
if not, then adjustments are a good thing
I think winning is good and losing is bad. I like to keep things simple. KISS
We’ve been bery bery bad…
I’m just gonna go with 8 wins and 1 loss is pretty good and we’ll see what new, never before seen and creative way they find to crash the season.
I’m all for new experiences
Doesn’t mean they played shittier just because the defense was shittier. Seems like a bunch of dudes with coke bottle glasses & pocket protectors trying to reduce a complex game to an equation, which can’t be done.
I get the concept, I just don’t think it’s accurate. None of them are, though, you can pick any of them apart. PFF has its strengths and weaknesses as well.
you sound like Mark
Cool. Maybe I’ll do some mock drafts this year.
Please don’t
You should probably start now. Beaker sucks and winning one score games is not sustainable so the season is basically over. I’m sure Mark has started by now. Early bird gets the worm and all.
Mark has been doing mocks since 5 minutes after the draft ended.
Yes, please
no reason to, only have 1 decent pick and 4 overall. Worth it for our owl.
That’s helpful then. It’s good to filter out when a team is playing fancy-free and when they are under pressure. It’s hard to do, though. I think it has to be done, though, because choking and wilting are real things too that should be statted.
sextape!
Romance is not dead with me, that’s for sure.
Just look at my last post for the definition.
So we have a 50% chance of getting to the NFCCG!! Because math.
according to FO we currently have a 28% chance of getting to the NFCCG
they have the poopeaters at 61% and Dallas at 32%
Why are they so sold on Dallas?
bad coaching gets a pass?
I don’t think coaching directly factors in – only whatever actual effect it has on the field.
Dallas is currently rated the second most efficient team in the NFC. Defense is ranked #2 in the league, and special teams is ranked #3. Offense is only 12th, but their run game is very good. Pass game needs more discipline, especially route running IMO, and they’ll be a very dangerous team.
Is our special teams bad because of the missed kicks and xps or other factors?
they have played quite well in every game I’ve watched.
the missed XP/FG is the biggest problem. Everything else is average or better, with the exception of punt returns, which are below average, but not horrendous. Reagor has muffed a couple (recovered both, but fumble recovery is seen more as luck than skill and doesn’t factor in as heavily as the fumbles themselves).
punting and punt coverage is a strength. 4th best in the league.
our kick off coverage is weak
*according to ONE METRIC
one meta-metric made up of many, many, many points of data.
Science!
Mark?
PPB confirmed a big Zuckerberg fan
LOL, 1982 LARD, they were fat.
But they identified as skinny.
They’re translender.
Ha ahaaha!
I know I’ve been making fun of DVOA (and who doesn’t like Double Vag, oral & anal?).
But I think its time I made a real list of the best teams in the league. Anyone else want to play?
I’m just going to break them into tiers
Pete, what do you got?
Fun idea!
Tier 1a: Bills
Tier 1b: Eagles, Ravens, Cowboys
Tier 2a: Chiefs
Tier 2b: Dolphins, Seahawks, 49ers, Buccaneers, Jets, Bengals
Tier 3: Patriots, Titans, Packers
Tier 4: Vikings, Giants, Jaguars, Browns, Falcons, Lions
I see what you did there on Tier 3.
Not cool Pete. Not cool.
lol
just calling it like I see it
I know you just ranked them by DVOA, but do you honestly believe the Packers are a better team then the Vikings and Giants?
Let me remind you that both of those teams beat the Packers.
not only is it possible for inferior teams to beat superior teams, but it happens often
the Colts beat the Chiefs
the Pronouns beat the Eagles
the Jets beat the Bills
the Panthers beat the Buccaneers
I have reasons to suspect so. The Packer run offense is better, and they’ve had a more difficult schedule so far. They’ve been more inconsistent in their performances, but their ceiling has been higher so far.
That said, the teams are pretty close. They’re both figuring some stuff out and improving, as well.
Giants seem to be slumping to me. Their defense is bad and they’ve had an easier schedule than the Vikings and Packers.
I think if the current version of the Packers played the Vikings 20 times at a neutral field, they’d get 11 or 12 wins. If the Packers played the Giants 20 times, they’d have 13 or 14 wins.
The order of the Vikings’ opponents has been extremely helpful this year. Getting all the divisional home games early and divisional road games late is proving quite nice.
They Vikings have yet to lose a game they should win, but you know it’s going to happen this year. 8-1 is great, but 12-5 is still the ceiling record this year IMO
My issue with calling the Packers better than the Vikings is more than just the fact that we beat them 23-7 in week 1.
Packers have won 4 games.
27-10 Bears
14-12 TB
27-24 NE
31-28 Dallas
3 of there wins are by 3 points or less. This is by an even lower average score than the Vikings . If our wins aren’t sustainable, what does this tell you?
What about games against common opponents?
We both beat the Bears at home.
Pack lost to the Bills, Commies, and Lions.
I get that you could say any giving Sunday an inferior Vikings team lost to the Packers.
But statistically what are the odds that a better team would lose to 3 teams we beat?
Not very good.
You care a lot about DVOA. What stats do you have about improving DVOA throughout a season, as well as DVOA of Super Bowl participants and winners?
I don’t have anything prepared, but I’ve generally read that SB participants have dramatically low or high DVOA values some years when compared to most. Also, there is something to be said about teams “getting hot” late in the season.
At a certain point they start discounting the weight of the earliest games as a team in week 12 is different than the same team in week 4, and if they’re better or worse lately, then that should be reflected appropriately.
I think most fans recognize that sometimes (often) the 2 best teams aren’t in the SB. DVOA, if you put any weight in it, can pin down just how true this is.
I’m trying to look up the 2009 season’s NFCCG by DVOA to see
aw, I’ve got to be subscribed to their paid plan to find it, I think
Ok, no problem. Thanks
Goooooood Morning Horde Hopefuls!
Sounds like CBS coverage this week – Nantz & Romo.
Surprising the wife with the Christmas tree today, I’ll have it up and lit by the time she gets home.
Pitch Tournament tonight!
May your hump day be full of camel toes!
Skol!
Pretty early for a tree. It must be artificial?
Sadly, yes.
And it is early – but she LOVES Christmas. And I do too honestly.
I’m more of a “Bah, Hum Bug” guy…
And muppets?
same, it’s only about shopping and nothing more for 99% of people. they crowd all, big fkn mess. I do like to belly up to the bar and have drinks with a young, nubile young lady and people watch.
I’m a Halloween guy. October is my favorite month. Love the weather and the colors. Like all of the Halloween-inspired movies on TV all month.
Too bad I spend the month in a tractor every year, but such is the adulthood world. Responsibility cares little for sentimentality.
I’m more of a Spring Mas kind of guy.
When the first buds go budding and then I can plant food.
Each season is wonderful in its own way.
Agree, I enjoy them all. Winter is my least favorite, but I LOVE ice fishing.
I use to be like that too
Dear Christina Applegate:
You are special to me.
Love, maybe, hopefully,
Wrenage
Sad about her MS diagnosis…
Oh wow, didn’t know about that. MS sucks.
whoa, really?
already dealt with cancer, now MS? that’s a shame.
She was a huge crush for me at some point after Married with Children but before (or around) Anchorman
She said she ignored early symtoms. Not sure if that matters. She will be ok for quite a while. My 1st cousin got it at like 40 and he’s like 68 now and it has finally slowed him. Needs a walker now. His brother was the one who died a few months ago, eaten up by cancer. Their other brother has a heart deal, when he was like 40 he almost died and basically his heart is 30 years older than his body. Now his son at 40 has a pace maker.
MWC was such a classic. Loved Ed O’Neill too – former Pittsburgh Steeler.
Think she misses them more than I do? Gotta be close.
winter blows and if not for bird hunting would be turrible
Real tough to ice fish any other time….
Speaking of..
Might be able to walk on on Black Friday on Upper Red
you can keep 1 at mille lacs, indians only get 60,000lbs this year and a free casino! awesome!
Yeah it’s wild.
I think they’re counting on it.
We’re going December 9-10-11, GF may be joining again. Got plans?
Real tough with my schedule to plan a trip
I’m going to mille lacs as a special trip to keep 12 walleyes, hopefully all over 20″
Lol just have an air fryer in the house and eat away
Yup, dumbest rule ever is to not be able to stock the freezer for the coming food shortage.
Does any other dumb state have this “possession” rule that applies to home, too?
It’s pretty typical. What I have seen is possession is either the same or double the daily limit. Just vaccuum seal it and say you bought it or caught it in another state if caught (hint, if you keep your mouth shut you won’t get caught).
As long as you keep your mouth shut there’s no issues.
nobody is coming in your house without probably cause.
loose lips sink ships.
The internet and social media have led to the prosecution of many wildlife (and I’m guessing other) violations.
good
Again… don’t be stupid and you have 0 issues.
”Oh look at me! I need a picture with every fish I’ve ever caught and then I need to show the world!”
ok boomer
I posted ONE pic of our crappie catch with me holding 7 people’s fish on a stringer, and I got a whole pile of “You broke the law, you effer!” on CrazyBook.
Solution: Avoid bookface
People in glass houses sink ships!
yes, and I agree with them to a degree. You get these guys who live on the lake keeping 500 in the freezer
We’ll be there!
touch and go as to will their be ice?
1000% chance there will be ice then. There’s ice now.
seems early
Yup. Just over a week away!
Don’t know if I’ll make it out BF or not but there will be people out there.
I’m not a big early ice guy…I love to ice fish..but its never been worth ice swimming to me.
I always look forward to the nooz of the first pickups to take a nice little lake bath every year…
I’ve gone through the ice once, I don’t ever want to do it again. Went in all the way to my armpits one time when it was way below zero. It sucked……BAD. Never again.
I never went swimming but I did put a pickup through the ice something like 4 days after I bought it. Luckily we were half on shore and the front bumper caught on thick ice so I was just suspended until we flagged somebody down to pull us out. If I have to wear a life jacket to go on the ice, I’m not going on the ice.
I went through the ice when I was like 12, while out walking on the lake with my ex-buddies.
Yeah, the guys who laughed while I was out there trying to get out.
I went through to my armpits when I was a kid
it was in a pond in my parents’ yard, I was maybe 250 feet from the house. It wasn’t too cold out (20 degrees or so), but soaked snowpants are heavy. It was a cold slog back to the house.
When I went through, it was my first job after the army, must’ve been 22. Was working on a wildlife refuge. Walking out on a pond to change the hay in the goose nests & there must’ve been a spring below the water, because the rest of the pond was a couple feet thick. Not this spot, went through, got lucky & stuck my arms out, caught myself on the ice. It was a LONG quarter mile run back to the pickup with my co-workers laughing their asses off at me (guys I grew up with).
Better than walking into any shopping establishment.
I think you can pretty much do all your shopping online now and get it shipped.
I think since Covid they do Black Friday month.
no reason to go in store anymore. Deals everywhere.
Why I refuse to go out the day after Thanksgiving.
waltz closed that and gave all the lakes to the indians
The cold and snow gets harder to take each year, but, on the other hand, I have started to enjoy winter for the simple fact that I have more time to relax.
this and this
I like reading and movies with the kids and video games and board games
easier to justify when the sun goes down well before dinner time
We buy ours the day after Thanksgiving. Every year. We buy a real one, though.
Me too.
got a friend I grew up with who’s an arborist and we get it from him.
A couple of years ago I talked the wife into going camping Thanksgiving weekend and getting our tree. That has now turned into a sort of tradition and that one tree has turned into 3 trees and we take the kids sledding in the mountains. Oh, and it also gives me one last chance to fill an elk or deer tag.
Sounds like a great tradition.
Our odd family tradition (one that I started when I was single) is that during Christmas season, we’ll get in the car, go to the movie theater & buy a BIG tub of popcorn, then go drive around & look at Christmas lights. So much fun.
We have to have a Christmas lights night but no popcorn. Maybe some hot schnocolate though.
Not odd – my family did the same thing. Had a local family that had an an acreage and had like 300,000 lights. Still do it with my wife – we get white hot chocolate and drive around looking at lights.
We have a bunch of lights at our house, I go bonkers. We made the list on some bookface page for best places in Bismarck to see lights. Really cool stuff.
That is cool. There’s a local one here outside Lincoln that is pretty impressive. Set to music as that’s now all the rage and it’s wildly popular.
I have ours set to music as well. Don’t worry, I’ll post a video on here once I put them up. Can’t wait.
Christmas tree already? Ambitious!
I don’t even cut one down until after Thanksgiving, and even then it waits in the garage for a week or so before I put it up.
Grew up with real trees, swore I’d never have a fake one. My child self would kick my ass – he wouldn’t really as he’s a child and I’m a grown man and I’d slap that little bastard around.
Real trees are a pain. Every year while I’m putting it up I consider making the switch the following year
i don’t mind a real tree at all.
what’s so difficult?
they’re worth it, and I sound more complain-y than I feel, but I’ll answer your question anyway:
they’re heavy, the stand is a pain to deal with, watering the tree is a burden, tying it to the roof and driving it home is a process, and they’re messy. Then you have to take it outside in January and stick it somewhere, waiting for a good night for a bonfire
Lol very complainy.
I love my real tree.
look at those things as a blessing and not a burden.
My wife has at least 3 fake trees. We had a few real ones when the kids were little and she does not like the bother of a real tree. Plus they are a fire hazard.
All of that…. And I live in the city and disposal here is a pain in the ass – according to my firefighter buddy, they’re a huge fire risk too although I’m sure a big part of that is neglect and not shutting lights off.
With newer LED lights now, the fire risk is fortunately dropping way down…
the fire risk is essentially “moron risk”
people don’t keep up with watering their trees because it’s remarkably simple and people are painfully stupid
I’m gonna put this kerosene heater next to my dry tree.
ok stupid.
House fires make me think of that movie Manchester By The Sea, amazing movie but tough to watch.
excellent movie
Haven’t seen that one.
Its maybe the saddest movie I’ve ever seen, but an excellent film as PPB said.
Stop being a pussy and buy a manly pickup
it’s a Tahoe
fits the whole family comfortably and tows the boat and the trailer
An alpha male like big 5 would never drive one.
I had one. But real outdoorsmen all have trucks. My buddy put an elk in his tahoe and could not get the smell out
*pickups
A truck is over 1 ton.
what’s over 1 ton? the weight? I can’t find a pickup that weighs less than 2000 lbs
even this thing, LOL
How about those little Soobaroo pickups in the 70’s?
I mean, they continually shed weight by losing their floorboards, etc.
Brats… 1700 pounds
No, you know what I mean. Load capacity. Anything one ton & below is a pickup.
let’s cut down 5 biilion trees and then incinerate them a month later
Ok.
don’t be a stupid lib.
it’s stupid
Did you know that trees will grow? You can cut them down, and replant them, and another tree will grow there. It’s really neat, I’ve seen it before.
Yeah, where we get ours there are far too many trees. Those mountains need a good fire that I hope your brother’s place survives.
yeah, I don’t think Christmas trees are a concern. Remember when everyone was freaking out about paper usage and cutting down trees in the 90s?
flash drives and the internet fixed that problem right quick. didn’t even take enormously expensive legislation from the overlords.
should read up on the amazon basin
it’s fine
Pines grow like weeds.
Yup…
And if you have some extra acerage you can plant some pines on it and get a tax credit for a “tree farm”
unless you own all the farmland like bill gates who refuses to plant a single tree to reduce co2. hmmmm…..
Bill Gates molests collies.
The last real tree I got was in California, where we went and got a permit so we could go into the state forest and lop down a real tree.
It was a beaut, but we had to walk a mile in a foot and a half of snow to find one, then when we got back my buddy’s truck got stuck.
Was all about real trees until we had children. The cost is silly. I spent around $700 on a prelit tree during an after christmas sale at Gertens, and with what a real tree costs we are way ahead.
While I like real trees, I am moving towards the lowest possible amount of work as I age.
I hear ya. At 41 I’m happy to put up with real trees for a while longer. Youngest kid is 12 right now, so I ought to be able to last at least until the kids have all moved out.
Hopefully they’re not little Fettermans and move out when they’re 50
the rent goes up quarterly in my house
Our tree goes up this weekend. We need the Christmas tree up so we can take the family photo for Christmas cards on Thanksgiving, or whatever day the ungrateful children show up.
Ah, the mute button will be my friend then. I’d rather listen to Rosanne Barr sing the anthem for 3 hours straight.
Ben, when you are doing the summary make sure you note that Mjolnir is going to be lit before his wife gets home.
I was lit before the sunrise this morning…..
can’t put up a tree before Thanksgiving.
Some countries thats death by firing squad.
“death penalty in some countries” often does not overlap with objective morality
Well, morality isn’t universal, and in BSFastan we do what we want!
Not all of it, but objective morality exists
Maybe I prefer subjective morality?
That way I can tailor my morals to my mood.
I also think we are living in a hologram.
So there’s that.
solipsism is a more reasonable worldview than atheism, IMO
We should get your flat earth friend to do a fan huddle post some day.
Flat earthers are great. In today’s world where you have a crazy amount of data at your fingertips we get people like this.
Then in WW1, some German artillary man who predated antibiotics and would have been lucky to know what a virus was, would adjust long range projectiles for the earths rotation and curvature.
What a time to be alive
Also, if you ever get bored, you should do a post on that DVOA witchcraft. I do one with the PFF witchcraft, you could provide another approach.
You already have author access, so do whatever you wish.
neat! I just may, someday.
I think it would be great. We need more opinions, not fewer.
2D universe actually answers some interesting questions.
I’m also not an atheist BTW.
I didn’t think that you were, but I appreciate the clarification.
Minnesota rock, and what I’m going to do to the world today at work…
By far my favorite comic book character
Spider-Man was always my guy, but I did read GI Joe comics back in the day. Larry Hama was a fun comic book writer. Totally understood the adolescent boy mindset with his storytelling.
Storm Shadow, baby!
Back in the Stone Age, when I was a kid, Superman was the man. Thing was close behind
Swamp Thing, Man Thing or Fantastic Four Thing?
I always thought Mike Pence could play Swamp Thing.
MP
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Morning skolflakes
Morning Skolly
Hump Day!!
Gm
Good morning! SKOL!
Good morning
Thank you Jobu for letting us win while we suck at the same time.
I need a Jubu tree instead of the Christmas tree. Maybe a Jobu topper for the Christmas tree?