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Kiddo is out of school for some kind of teacher’s meeting or something or other. I took the days off so we can hang out, we tried fishing yesterday even though the weather wasn’t perfect. We had no luck, but it was a fun trip. Hopefully, we can get out today to either fish or try to get some birds.
I’m trying to stay awake for the rest of the game, I’ve made it through the first half, but I don’t see myself making it much longer. Lots of surprises so far, the Steelers went up 10-0, which is not surprising. Then, the Steelers decided to hand the rest of the half to the Bengals, it’s 17-10 at the half, the Bengals are winning. If this keeps up, I picked myself out of the survival league this year.
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Justin Jefferson played a great prank on Kevin O’Connell, from MSN.
Highlights and stats from last night’s Thursday Night Football matchup between the Steelers and Bengals, courtesy of ESPN.
The Twins interviewed Nick Punto for their open manager job, per PuckettsPond. @I’m shocked that the Twins are looking to hire an ex Twins player to be their manager. I’m sure it will turn out well.@
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Wonโt beat anyone giving up 9 sacks and getting shredded in the run game.
Gopher QB fun to watch – live arm and moved around the pocket well. Gopher D was tough, often getting pressure with just 4, sometimes 3 – back end coverage was stellar.
On to Northwesternโฆ..
Poor Mjolnir. Gophers kicked some butt apparently.
lol, Nebraska canโt compete with the rodents, 6 in a row for gophers
21 -6. 12.5 minutes left.
24-7.
Nationally Ranked go 0-2.
98 drive, impressive. Maybe Rhule is thinking about the penn state job ๐ค
98 yard….
Down goes #2 Miami to Louisville 24-21.
‘Experts’ wrong again.
Just checked in. 7-6 rodents? Guess I haven’t missed much.
14-6 now after 3 qtrs.
Nebraska at The Rodents starts in about 15m.
I know at least 1 person here cares quite a bit.
Don’t have that big a stake in the game myself.
But I will go Rodents to balance things out.
70 yard Gopher run sets up TD.
7-3 early in the 2nd qtr.
OMG I just had a What the Hell Porter at my favorite brewery in Billings (still $3) and then came and checked into hotel. That sneaks up on you like a tsunami. Iโm laid out seeing pink elephants.
Sleep well my friend.
Are they on parade?
It’s weird to me that people don’t know where they live. This is not the first time this is happened, but today I received an order for the book and when I put their address into the shipping software, it alerted me that I need an Apt #. The person lives in a building with hundreds of apartments. How do you not know that you need to have the information in your address when you buy something?
Weird
Looks like the Eagles will get their starting right CB back Sunday.
Oh good. I was worried the victory would be too easy now that we know Wentz is starting and not the fragile kid.
laughing…
He saw JJ (WR) was coming up and decided that his stats couldn’t take the beating.
No change at center…
no way O’Neill plays.
Kinda thinking the same thing freezey…
Never count him outโฆheโs got a lot of starch inside.
I see what you did there.
On a roll MT
Brosmer is the backup, McCarthy the emergency guy.
As expected.
I think we will see Brosmer for at least a few plays.
Hope Wentz balls out for us again.
Van Gink will be sorely missed. Not sure the team can stop the run if Cashman is also out.
Feeling the same. Van Ginkel and Cashman are big losses to the defense.
Wentz (IMO) is still getting his feet wet with the offense, but should be stronger in his understanding and execution this Sunday. Hopefully the game plan works well against that Fangio defense. Our run game needs to improve.
I’m a hero today. My wife said the pressure in the kitchen faucet was getting really weak. Wanted me to call the plumber. I told her I’d take a look at it. The faucet has a large gooseneck structure with a hose and a nozzle that changes from spray ro regular flow. I pulled the nozzle out and looked at it. It had lots of calcium build up in it. I needed to take the nozzle off to disassemble it and clean it, but then the retractable hose would have slid down the gooseneck pipe. I asked the wife to get me one of the potato chip bag clamps. I used that to hold the hose in place after I removed the nozzle. She was impressed. I cleaned all the calcium out of the nozzle, put it all back together, and it is working perfectly now.
Scored some brownie points.
My wife would be googling it and sending me the results, then expecting me to fix it, I’ve replaced parts on our washer, dryer, camper, etc. I’m not at all mechanically minded, but if I have problems she wonders what’s wrong with me.
Laughing. I can be handy when I want. I know about cars, electrical work, HVAC, plumbing, etc. Sometimes though I just don’t want to be bothered. Grin.
The Cowboys will be without cornerback Trevon Diggs on Sunday against the Commanders after an accident at his home Thursday put him in the concussion protocol.
No information on what happened. Wife probably told him to clean the gutters or something.
Or she threw a frying pan at him.
More likely
This doesn’t look good…
Trump just said in his press conference with Zalinski when asked a question. ‘Maduro did offer us every that they have in his country, he did that because he doesn’t want to F*ck around with the US’.
Trump, we don’t deserve him. #grin
Laughing… he actually said F*ck? He’s a gem.
He did, Trump is a ‘regular guy’ who plays politics.
It reminds me of the time he told Tyrus that he was ‘pussywhipped’.
only 2 minutes long
Tyrus is a gem too. Love his humor and takes on things. I saw this video a while back and sent it to my wife. She showed it to everybody in the gym. Said everyone was laughing their ass off.
I LOVE Tyrus!
People on twitter calling Tee Higgins slide after the catch to keep the clock running at the end of the game last night, a GENIUS move. “So smart. So unselfish. Football IQ through the roof.”
Please… he slid down to keep the clock running, like he should have. It’s not genius. It’s a normal play in football.
Agree.
Yeah, the announcers were saying that he was in consideration player of the game for that, and that was he was so crazy smart he’s basically Elon Musk. Routine play. Anyone with basic intelligence would have done that, especially after probably being told. Also, would have likely been tackled by safety anyway.
True, but after all the idiotic things players do in the heat of the game (spit on someone, drop the ball before crossing the goal line, throw the flag back at the official, etc), seeing a player do exactly what he should do is kinda impressive, especially when it is a very uncommon play.
Every team practices this actually. Called the Church drill. But I get your point.
Holy shit, this is tempting.
It is!
How much?
$9k
Not bad at all.
Hard to see the year.
1990’s??
76
76
This is the one I really want. 68 Camaro.
belongs to a buddy
Imagine your son driving one of those to school in a few years….
I should have you talk to my wife
Does it come with the leather gloves and one of those funny hats?
Ehhh, I usually drive buck naked like everyone else does.
Is that why you ended up in a neck brace?
Exactly
Yep. Although I would lump in a bunch of “Christian” faiths in there also.
Abide by the laws of the country you are living in, or GTFO.
You know, Iโve never considered cottage cheese to be a type of cheese. It just a curd to me.
Laughing… clever boy.
Brad, you are still the king of dad jokes.
What did the skeleton say to the bar tender???
I’ll have a beer and a mop.
Laughing…
Carson Wentz ready to face Eagles with trademark brute style โ and gratitude – The Athletic
Pretty good article…..
Great Headline, couldn’t read article unless I signed up…
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Interesting, I could and don’t have an account.
Wonโt let me, either.
Perhaps you could share with us what it says.
It unanimous.
I can’t either.
All of these years later, all of these hits later, Carson Wentz is still here. Standing before a group of reporters and listening to an all too familiar set of questions.
Has he thought about sliding more? Could he benefit from getting down?
Of course, heโs thought about it, and of course, heโd benefit. His knee might still contain its original ligament. Heโd have much less exposure to X-rays from scanning his ribs. Currently, his left shoulder would not require a harness-type contraption.
โItโs always something where I come back and watch the film, and itโs, like, โThat was probably dumb,โโ Wentz says. โIโve got to be better. Iโve got to learn.โ
Now, heโs laughing.
โI hate to say it,โ he says, โbut Iโve been saying that to myself for 10 years.โ
His words hint at an admirable amount of awareness. Heโs played for six teams in multiple systems behind different offensive lines. At this point, pencil has turned into pen: Wentzโs brute play style isnโt going to change all of a sudden.
The approach may affect his short-term playing availability and long-term real-life mobility, but Wentzโs self-deprecation on the subject is a snapshot of what has evolved. Away from the field, the 32-year-old looks and sounds like a man at peace with a decade-long physical and emotional roller-coaster ride. Wentz was once plucked from a cocoon in North Dakota and thrown into the Philadelphia fire. The ensuing years in Indianapolis, Washington, Los Angeles and Kansas City provided him time to view his professional beginnings through a different lens.
If you were to write a script of this journey, itโd be savvy to add a notch on the timeline of this matured quarterback facing his past in a place of significance. Thatโs whatโs special about Sundayโs matchup between the Vikings and Eagles, with Wentz likely to start at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minnesota. The script has come to life.
When he began to look like the quarterback the Eagles moved heaven and earth to acquire, Wentz would do things like throw an incompletion in the red zone, trot toward the sideline and demand that then-Eagles coach Doug Pederson call the same play.
โHe comes to the sideline,โ former Eagles teammate Chris Maragos says, โand heโs yelling, โRun it again! Run โฆ it โฆ again!โโ
This was Week 3 of the 2017 season versus the New York Giants. Wentz and tight end Zach Ertz hadnโt connected on a quick glance route. Pederson obliged. They ran it again. Wentz dropped back, planted his back foot and uncorked a missile. The touchdown pass wouldnโt make a highlight reel, but the moment made him easy to get behind.
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He was persistent. Confident. Capable of earning respect from older players who can sense false bravado.
At the time, Wentzโs trajectory was undeniable. He checked every box. Pedigree? He was picked behind Jared Goff at No. 2 in the NFL Draft. Size? He stood 6-foot-5 and weighed 237 pounds. Intangibles? He would rehearse the call sheet during his 5 a.m. commutes with assistants Spencer Phillips and Nick Williams.
Following an October victory against Washington, one columnist wrote in the Philadelphia Inquirer: โJust 23 games into his NFL career, his progress defies any logical explanation. Heโs reading defenses and making passes and grinding out runs like โฆ well, nobody else, because there hasnโt been anybody quite like him; not with his size and speed and athleticism and intelligence.โ
โYou could tell very early on,โ Maragos says, โthat he had all of the markers to be great.โ
With the Eagles, Carson Wentz was persistent, confident and capable of earning respect from older players who can sense false bravado.Rich Schultz / Getty Images
The only drawback, if you want to call it that, was his demolition derby-type disregard for his body. However, it wasnโt (and never is) as easy as simply weeding out the frequency of contact. You can have a plan before a game, and then you can be situated in the chaos of the pocket with 2 1/2 seconds to make something happen.
Instincts take over. Decisions become reactionary. The carnage comes for those willing to absorb it.
When his fearlessness finally resulted in an ACL tear in a 2017 game against the Rams, the common takeaway seemed to be that this was bound to happen. Heโd lowered his shoulder in a previous game against the Panthers and tried to truck Panthers linebacker Thomas Davis at the goal line. Heโd spun out of would-be sacks, acting as if his person was made not of crackable bones but of rubber.
As if the season-ending injury amid an MVP-caliber year wasnโt enough, Wentz was left to watch backup quarterback Nick Foles galvanize what had been his team on the way to Super Bowl LII. Philadelphia finished that run at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minnesota.
That wasnโt the end. Wentz returned the following year and played particularly well in 2019. Then, in 2020, he was benched. The 465 hits over five years took a toll. Trust dissolved. Reports over the years have established different perceptions. In 2021, for example, longtime Eagles cornerback Malcolm Jenkins spoke about the team โtrying to kind of protect (Wentzโs) ego.โ
Phillips, who coached on those Eagles teams, reflects on that time with an interesting perspective.
โToo many times, I think people expect people to be this perfect quarterback figure,โ he says. โCarson was 23 years old when he was drafted. I think we all have to remember that.โ
Is Wentz approaching Sundayโs game with any extra juice?
Tellingly, he doesnโt bristle at the question.
โNot really,โ he says casually. โMaybe earlier in my career, it had a different feeling.โ
Heโs thankful. Appreciative of the organization and the fan baseโs initial embrace, appreciative of the years that include his marriage and the beginning of his family. Itโs a message of gratitude. He acknowledges the abrupt end. You can sense the imperfection of that time just as easily as you can pick up on his present joy.
Itโs not that heโs kept it a secret. Wentz was bubbly in his initial press conference with the Vikings, talking about what itโs like passing pictures on the wall of legends he used to root for. Itโs more than that, though. Itโs the tone in which heโs discussed receiving another opportunity with advantageous surroundings after all these years.
He hasnโt been snippy. He has mostly made jokes about managing the pain of bruised ribs and a serious injury to his non-throwing shoulder. In London, with most coaches and players anxious to get home, Wentz stepped up to a lectern and commented about the cool experience. His play has not been perfect. Too often, pressure forces him to create, leaving him susceptible to hits.
Itโs the one constant in his arc, almost a relic from who he once was.
โNext time I slide,โ Wentz says, โIโll be just as hyped as everybody else, I think. Always trying to learn.โ
Good article… waxing poetic a bit, but decent read. Wentz has always been a physical phenom more than anything. He escaped the pocket and then took on linebackers, a la Cam Newton. He is, at his core, a football player. Football pits big strong athletes against each other. It’s a hard, violent game. It demands toughness and grit. Wentz is a brute force player as this article highlights. He’s not a finesse guy. He has learned a lot in his travels and travails though. Still he has that enduring will to win, even if he isn’t as cerebral as Tom Brady, or has the arm talent of Dan Marino. He is an imperfect QB, but he is still a force of nature on the field.
Thanks for providing the article.
I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. Wentz was sensational in 17 and was on a trajectory to be MVP. But then he got hurt, Foles stepped in and won the SB for the Eagles. Wentz came back, played well, but things weren’t just quite the same.
Now, he’s here. JJ goes down and he’s the guy stepping in. Wouldn’t it be poetic justice if he were to lead the Vikings to a SB win this year.
The situation between McCarthy and Wentz is gonna be a storyline for sure. It’s that classic situation between what fans think is the QBOTF, and the quarterback of the past.
I want the guy who can run the offense best. I don’t care about all the development crap.
Flacco and the Douche had a great battle last night. Both showed some great skill at the position of QB. You saw both guys making lightning quick throws at times to beat the blitz. Rodgers going deep down the left sideline, and getting intercepted, was a classic move for him. He didn’t think the safety could get there, and at worst he could have an incompletion. At best he could have gotten a completion or PI. He’s made that throw many times in the past and gotten a beneficial call. The safety made a spectacular play though, and for once the ref’s didn’t bend a knee to Rodgers.
I fell asleep at halftime. Woke up as the Bengals were driving to kick the game winning field goal. Great win for Cincinnati.
That first interception was great. The WR caught the ball in the air, the DB took it away from him and held on when they both landed.
I was worried that the officials were going to say the DP landed out of bounds first or that the ‘ball moved’ when he landed so he didn’t have possession.
Always nice to see The Douche lose, a nice midweek bonus.
The safety made a very special play there for sure. When Rodgers let the ball go, the safety was 25 yards away, but he still got there. Amazing. Then the fight for the ball, getting possession, landing inbounds, and maintaining control, was all amazing. Tremendous defensive play.
You were a QB. What would you say to a WR who let a DB pull the ball away from a pass you put right into the receiver’s hands?
That’s the way it goes sometimes. Great athletes make great plays. Sure you want/expect the receiver to fight for the ball, and not allow the interception, but in this case the safety just made a spectacular play. Give credit where credit is due. Rodgers put up the classic 50/50 ball, and it didn’t work out. That’s why it’s called a 50/50 ball.
Can see Tom Brady now – ” Oh shucks, good try Gronk.”
Laughing. All competitors hate when things don’t go their way. They’re “fiery”. Sometimes though, they’re mad about shit they actually caused.
‘theyโre mad about shit they actually caused’
Personally I am most often ‘mad about shit’ that I caused.
With all of my experience ‘causing shit’ you would have thought that I would have learned better by now.
Same
While my wife wouldn’t use that word, I could guarantee she would say the same is true for me.
That’s the stuff they used to do for Rodgers all the time. Fake PI calls, reversing calls when there was clear evidence the call that was made was right (or vice versa – confirming bad calls that were proven to be wrong). It was infuriating. Once he started speaking out about the COVID stuff, the calls stopped being as favorable for him.
Anecdotally, I agree. It seems like Rodgers always got the favorable call when he chucked up a 50/50 ball. I have no data from any authoritative source to prove or disprove this, but it sure seemed like he got a lot of help from the ref’s.
He absolutely did. Not to mention the egregious holds that his offensive line was able to get away with nearly every passing play, in order to allow him time to throw the ball or scramble.
I was wrong about the Douche…he still has plenty left in the tank.
Yeah, he can still sling it. The hail mary throw was damn near 70 yards.
I was thoroughly impressed by that throw and I had a sick feeling that a Steeler would catch it. Good job by the Bengals defender.
The ability to throw that ball 70 yards at the end of the game, is impressive at his age. He can still throw the ball with authority. Couple that with all his experience studying and beating defenses, and you get a guy who is still a threat. Same with Flacco. He’s a lot better than people realize. I love watching seasoned QB’s who know what they’re doing. I see them making reads, but also moving the defense around with their eyes. They play the position at a very high level.
Yes he does
I love Rodgers arm. He has a cannon, but he has an extremely deft touch.
He does indeed, and his “mechanics” and footwork are the worst in the league. He just has an incredibly unique talent.
It was great seeing Rodgers lose like that. Though if CIN had any sort of defense at all, it wouldn’t have been so easy for him. Starting nearly every drive in the second half past midfield after 1 running play put him in pretty easy position to succeed. That, along with one of the most porous defenses I’ve seen since Donatell’s Vikings defense. How did the Vikings not beat the Steelers again? If an old and slow Flacco can put up over 30 points…
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Thought the game was fun last night. I like both teams and have rooted for them in the past, but do not care for the QB on that Steelers team. Seems like a douche….
The Douche was big mad on the flea flicker.
Douchey says that wasn’t the play call.
Tomlin says it was the play call.
Obviously Warren, the RB, ran the flea flicker.
Trouble in paradise when you go against The Douche.
Nah, Rodgers checked out of the play….didn’t you see his L eyebrow twitch 3 1/2 times, he put a sharper T sound on the 3rd “hut”, and he looked twice at the play clock.
Easy to spot when you know what to look for.
I called a lot of plays where people went the wrong way, or did the wrong thing, but I’ve never seen someone execute a flea flicker that wasn’t called. That was weird.
He probably just pushed the wrong button when selecting plays in Madden.
LOL
Also, The Douche not happy after a TD…..
S-C-H-I-S-M
The Douche doing douche things.
Don’t his teammates know that he is a future HOFer? You don’t ‘open field tackle’ future HOFers during a TD celebration.
I mean, it was stupid for a lineman to tackle the Douche.
But seeing the Douche as an angry old man is delicious….
Don’t mess with Zombie Flacco. What little I watched of the game was Flacco slanting the Steelers to death.
I would rather watch Zombie Flacco than Wentz by a wide margin.
wrong, Wentz is the best by a large margin.
I broke one of my cardinal rules of survivor picks last night and picked a division game and subsequently have been eliminated.
Now you have one less thing to worry about, it isn’t a bad deal.
Looks like they bit JacksonVike, too.
I would have taken the Bengals in Pick Em if I knew Flacco was playing. I turned on the game and slapped my forehead. I’m not sure I realized he was even traded there, what with all the corn distracting me.
The Flacco trade seems like the kind of thing that will always work out…initially, at least.
I personally think Flacco is over-rated and would not have been able to take the hits that Wentz has taken. For every one of those great games he has, he has a few stinkers. He was very good yesterday, though.
Yes, he will die on the vine as the season goes along, but he will be good for a momentary boost.
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